Interview Feedback - " Wasn't wearing a shirt"
Posted by lookitskris@reddit | ExperiencedDevs | View on Reddit | 207 comments
This has thrown me, so looking to the community to see if I've missed something.
17 years exp as a contractor, potential role was remote, non-client facing and I've worked in the same sector for other places before, and the interview was conducted on teams.
I've done many, many interviews in my time, and I can usually get a good gauge on how well it's gone, and I thought this one went pretty well.
I've never really given it a thought about clothing in an intererview, and it's never come up before.
Have I totally missed something? I thought this was a thing in 1995, not 2025.
HalcyonHaylon1@reddit
I usually dont wear pants
couchjitsu@reddit
It still happens some. It always blows my mind. As a hiring manager, I interview in a hoodie, a t-shirt, a button down, whatever I'm wearing that day. I've worn a baseball cap to more than one interview as a hiring manager.
As a candidate, I almost always make sure I'm wearing a shirt with a collar because I recognize that some people still have old ideas on what makes a good candidate.
lordbrocktree1@reddit
Rule of thumb is to dress at least 1 level above the company’s expected dress code.
For example: Casual office, tshirts and jeans welcome = polo and khakis on the interview
Polo/collar in office = button down and dress pants in interview
Tie or sports coat in office = full suit in interview.
When in doubt, go with a dress shirt and jacket with no tie as a safe bet. Not too dressy for a casual environment, but not too underdressed to stand out in a formal dress code environment.
dbxp@reddit
If they require a full suit do you wear morning dress?
divclassdev@reddit
Top hat and tails
hawkeye224@reddit
Monocle and pocket watch required as well
Codex_Dev@reddit
Don't forget the long trimmed moustache that you can twirl menacingly!
sd2528@reddit
If they required a full suit as daily dress code, I wouldn't apply.
quasirun@reddit
I couldn’t afford to get a job that required daily suits. I’d have to spend the 2 week notice period ordering suits that probably won’t fit right, then slam my tailor with short due date work to get those suits to fit. Then buy a crap ton of shirts and ties, shoes, belts, and dress socks to match all the suits.
Then, you know a firm expecting suits is expecting bougie watches, tight fades, manicured nails. If not explicit, implied and pressured. And if that’s the case, my Mass produced Bonobos suits ain’t gonna cut it either. Then I’d surely be looked down on for rolling up in a dirty Subaru.
A move like that in my career right now would put me back $20k just to not get written up by HR. Then I’d have to buy some baby luxury car to drive in.
pythosynthesis@reddit
All you need is a few suits and many shirts. Change the shirt daily and the suit weekly, or every few days.
temp1211241@reddit
“So you’re applying to a law firm!”
quasirun@reddit
The alternative is, do you want to work somewhere that judges the quality of a software engineer by their suit wearing?
lordbrocktree1@reddit
I am a realist and understand that “traditional professionalism” is a requirement in lots of companies.
Maybe it’s being east coast tech vs west coast, but if I wasn’t willing to at least throw on a jacket for an interview, that would eliminate 99.5% of companies.
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
It’s definitely an East Coast West Coast thing. Basically ‘California Business Casual’ started back in the late 80s when office ladies stopped wearing panty hose and started wearing matched set walking shorts and open toe sandals as office attire while East Coast counter parts were still requiring ‘Sunday best’ dresses and hose and closed toe shoes as office wear
CtrlAltSysRq@reddit
Yeah no thanks on that one. If you don't like my Judas Priest shirt you are NOT gonna like when I tell you I can't make projects happen twice as fast with twice as many people.
carsncode@reddit
If I'm interviewing someone I usually wear a polo so the candidate won't feel uncomfortable if they've dressed up for it. I figure it's one less distraction from what matters to me which is their engineering talent and their soft skills.
Infinite-Debt-7216@reddit
I've even interviewed dressed as a crocodile because some office theme thing lmao (I was the interviewer)
Bullshit103@reddit
I have worn the same polo to every interview I’ve had for 5 years lmao. I call it my interview polo
couchjitsu@reddit
I have a friend that is a sales engineer. He keeps a polo in his office for any days he has a new client call that gets scheduled. That way he doesn't show up in a t-shirt for the first impression.
zephimir@reddit
Sales engineer indeed
u2jrmw@reddit
I am a VP and I interview for VP and CTO roles in a t-shirt and hoodie. If they don’t want me because I didn’t put a dress shirt on I don’t want to work there.
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
Apologies guys - I'm a Brit - by "shirt" I mean a smart, button down top. I was wearing a "plain back tee"
Goducks91@reddit
haha ok. I was going to say if you actually went shirtless that is a bit of a red flag.
ShoePillow@reddit
A bit?
partyinplatypus@reddit
During Covid we had a guy join the Zoom standup shirtless sitting out in the woods camping.
mpapi70@reddit
Dear god I read sitting as shitting.
thorodkir@reddit
He was just taking care of a blocker
WorldWarPee@reddit
Good ol standup multitasking
CodeWithClass@reddit
Good ole scrum and dump
overlook211@reddit
Was not ruled out though
Ok_Horse_7563@reddit
would hire.
partyinplatypus@reddit
Would you hire me? My entire team other than me just got laid off 😅
Ok_Landscape_2405@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/william-amos-liberal-mp-naked-parliament-1.5988128
Not a joke. A Canadian politician showed up to a virtual meeting without any clothes.
Cerus_Freedom@reddit
A less rational part of me was imagining you getting out of your pool just long enough to take the interview. Power move, honestly.
Goducks91@reddit
Join the zoom call drying your hair with a towel lol...
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
Peeling off his designer vitamin face mask al Patrick Bateman
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
Patrick Bateman 😆
East_Step_6674@reddit
"As you can see I have pool money already so make sure your offer is worth my time."
bentreflection@reddit
Instant hire
ffs_not_this_again@reddit
I misread this as "getting out of your poo" and thought, he's lucky he even got a response if he turned up with literal shit upon his person.
Careful_Ad_9077@reddit
It was fun because I am literally working shirtless as we speak.
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
In a well slung tool belt? On Only Fans 😆
WhiskyStandard@reddit
I immediately pictured Jeff Spicoli from “Fast Times…” failing a tech interview and getting mad because that was the only feedback.
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
No shirt…no shoes ….no dice
Live it…learn it….know it 😆
Beli_Mawrr@reddit
In the US we call those wallywackets.
Own-Chemist2228@reddit
It's a weird paradox.
Even though the interviewer may have misplaced priorities, anyone with 17 years experience should know that these types of people exist and take the trivial step to mitigate that risk.
Just because something should not be that way doesn't mean that it wont be.
jimbo831@reddit
I think you're looking at it wrong. I want a company that cares about stuff like this to reject me. I don't want to work for a place like this. So I will wear what I'm comfortable in, and if that's not good for them, I won't get hired somewhere I won't enjoy working. It's a win-win as I see it.
FlailingDino@reddit
Just because an interviewer cares about this doesn’t mean the place wouldn’t be a good match for you. Old school people might care more about this, but those guys can be the best to work with. Not the hill you want to die on.
sol_in_vic_tus@reddit
If old school people are able to nix you as a candidate based on wearing a T-shirt instead of dressing up for a remote and non client facing role then that definitely says something about the organization and not just that one interviewer. A different organization would have taken that feedback from the interviewer and laughed at them while scheduling the next round.
Chinpanze@reddit
This is absolutely the hill I'm willing to die on. All my friends who worked at companies where they would reject a candidate based on T-shirt were shit environments to work on.
It's statistics, I saw enough correlation to deduce there is some cause and effect going on.
SituationSoap@reddit
It's not about getting rejected for not having a decent shirt. It's about not getting the call back because they thought you were the fourth best candidate.
It's the same reason you take the call in a quiet place with good lighting and make sure your mic is good. You're getting rid of reasons to bump you down the list.
jimbo831@reddit
Yes it does. Why are you trying to tell me what is or isn't a good place for me?
Darkmayday@reddit
Nah im a fully remote, camera off kind of guy. So requiring a shirt is certainly at odds with that
Cultural-Eggplant592@reddit
Everywhere I've worked has been casual as hell. Everywhere I interview, I wear a shirt. And I'm female. It's my lucky interview shirt.
Which-World-6533@reddit
Dressing fairly smartly for an interview is such a basic step as part of an interview, especially an online interview.
It's up there with "Don't call the interviewer a c*nt" type of advice.
coderqi@reddit
I feel like one isn't like the other.
Greykiller@reddit
My mental model has been: If I am taking a video call in the middle of a work day or something where getting into a nice button up shirt is suspicious or a pain, then I will consider skipping the dress shirt.
But if you can throw on something "nice", it really is such a small hurdle and it's one of those things that shows you can be professional. It doesn't even have to be a great shirt, get something comfortable to you and collared and nobody is really going to be able to tell (I've done this and worn shorts, let's be real. It's a risk I'm willing to take.)
I totally get the people who don't want to work somewhere that forces dress code (You can sus this out by looking at what your interviewers are wearing) but if your attitude is that you're good enough that you don't even need to put that kind of effort in, well... I hope its true for your sake, I'll take what small advantages I can get
SadTomorrow555@reddit
What happened to "Lead with your best foot" lol. Like tf? Yes. Dress nice for an interview. Lmao. Pretend it's a first date ffs.
SSA22_HCM1@reddit
We must be dating different types of girls.
SadTomorrow555@reddit
In what way lmao
PlateletsAtWork@reddit
Eh, I have never worn a button up shirt for an interview, but I also wouldn’t want to work somewhere that cares about what I wear. Interviews go both ways.
Ok_Landscape_2405@reddit
Plain black tee is completely appropriate.
llanginger@reddit
I’m a Brit but I guess I’ve been in the US too long. I had to re-read 3 times :D. Also - bullet fucking dodged good sir.
mwax321@reddit
Just like I don't care if you're answering my tech questions like you rehearsed it, dressing professional for an interview shows you have PREPARED for the interview. That you care.
That's honestly the first checkbox I'm looking for when interviewing. If I feel like you're just "winging it", even if you're answering questions well, I see that as a negative. It's not my only factor, but it's a big one.
Crafty_Independence@reddit
I would much rather interview someone who looks comfortable and natural than someone dressing for old-school IBM office politics.
I'd also rather interview someone who is able to "wing" interviews instead of acting like they're cramming for finals.
mwax321@reddit
I should say I'm not looking for shirt and tie, either. But if you're showing up disheveled it's not really a positive for me.
On the other point, agree to disagree. Although I think you might be implying more that fictitious-applicant-who-winged-it nailed every question effortlessly, and assuming that I would pass on that person. That's DEFINITELY not the case / not what I meant. That would be a positive for me too.
But consider that if you're interviewing for a job, and you already anticipate what will be asked, have studied up on questions, and answer well. Does it matter if it sounds like they crammed? I think it shows they put in effort, and that means a lot to me.
Crafty_Independence@reddit
Nothing about the OP's comments suggest that they shoved up disheveled, and this seems like a bit of stretch all around.
Seems like you're filtering for the wrong things then. The context was looking for a *very* experienced new hire. In that context, you're looking for someone who doesn't *need* that degree of preparation. If they're a good candidate, they should be natural, comfortable, and be able to work and think on their feet with minimal preparation.
If you're not interviewing that way, you're actually filtering out true experience in favor of cramming.
Better_Historian_604@reddit
I was about to say this belongs in /r/ExperiencedTrailerParkSupervisors
sheriffderek@reddit
I'm choosing to believe this is a shit post. "What's the big deal? And they wanted me to know how to do the job, too."
hate_rebbit@reddit
It's a shirt post
sheriffderek@reddit
I'm going to be looking for more places to make Shirt posts
metaphorm@reddit
good clarification. thanks.
so, I think you just hit a culture-fit filter and it seems like you learned that the company you interviewed with is stuffy and old-fashioned. you probably don't want to work for them anyway? I dunno. anyway, huge red flag that they have dress code expectations but did not communicate that in advance of the call. bullet dodged.
PoopsCodeAllTheTime@reddit
Dress code but it's secret and you have to guess 😂
More common than you think.
NatoBoram@reddit
Maybe put this as the first line of your post?
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
🫡
tehfrod@reddit
I hope you weren't doing the interview in pants, then.
sactomkiii@reddit
Haha thought you were going topless. Thought to myself, "bold move...let's see how that works out for him"
spelunker@reddit
I don’t understand, I do all of my interviews bare-chested!
papa-hare@reddit
Hahahahahahaha OMG. Ok agree with you there. I literally thought you went bare nips and thought that was ok somehow
poolpog@reddit
Lol! Truly thought maybe you had no clothing on up top
LeoPelozo@reddit
I thought you were this guy
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/comments/1krubcw/the_cto_didnt_know_where_to_look/
Canadianingermany@reddit
I really don't care what my team wears in the office, but I would definitely notice negatively if someone wore a t-shirt to an interview.
Its your opportunity to say you care about this interview and a t-shirt say, I really don't care enough to think about it.
Oakw00dy@reddit
If you got rejected because of that, you probably dodged a bullet anyway.
OK_x86@reddit
True but even if I know the dress code is casual I will still dress up somewhat. It shows a clear interest and attention to detail.
You don't need to dress in a tuxedo either. Just a simple suit or business casual will do.
normalmighty@reddit
I typically aim for a dress code of "this is how I would expect people to dress at important company events & dinners." Which for me is a decent looking button shirt and some nice black pants. If they consider that underdressed then it's a red flag for me, because I am not interested in wearing a suit and tie all day lol.
MathmoKiwi@reddit
Agreed, you should try to figure out whatever is the dress code is of the place and dress a half step better than that
hyrumwhite@reddit
One step up from the work environment is the rule of thumb. Gives you a bit of an unconscious edge too, if the interviewer is dressed for a normal day in the office
MinimumArmadillo2394@reddit
It's become more and more difficult to tell.
My last job every interview was remote. Management was the only ones who wore something more than casual. I showed up to the on-site interview in a full suit.
First 3 people that interviewed me were in T-Shirt and jeans.
I mean, I got the job but they let me go for "performance reasons" (aka, I took PTO they agreed to) on monday.
_hypnoCode@reddit
You'll get denied from way more jobs for wearing a suit than a TShirt. Honestly, you would probably get the same response from a suit as you would wearing a white tank top.
A button up is fine.
neb_flix@reddit
Gotta love Reddit.. someone says to dress slightly better than the dress code and you go directly to “LOL what? Don’t wear a three piece suit, you’ll look ridiculous!”
Vegetable_Wishbone92@reddit
That is not what someone said. Said somebody said to wear a full suit which is a hell of a lot more than "slightly better" compared to a black t-shirt. "Slightly better" would be a polo or button up.
storpannan@reddit
Did he edit this in or are you all just ignoring this?
Vegetable_Wishbone92@reddit
First impressions matter. If you put the suit on the left side of the "or", you make it the prominent condition that people focus on. The way the poster worded it, it came across as you should dress in a "simple" suit or, at the very least, business casual.
OK_x86@reddit
Nobody is asking you to wear a suit at work.
But first impressions matter and if you show up looking like you got out of bed you're giving the impression you either don't care or that you think you're such hot shit that you don't need to bother.
If you don't want to wear it, don't.
_hypnoCode@reddit
If you show up like you stepped out of an 80s movie, you're going to give a bad impression.
OK_x86@reddit
People have been known to wear suits in decades that are not the 80s.
In any case you seem to believe that making an impression means wearing a suit. It does not. But making an impression does at a minimum mean dressing like you care. There's a huge a whole spectrum of choices between shorts flip flops and a tank top and a tux.
Anyways I'm not your parent. I was just giving my 2 cents. You can wear what you want for an interview. If it's worked out for you that's great. My batting average is essentially 100% FWIW.
_hypnoCode@reddit
You literally said to wear a simple suit. I'm replying to that. Are you fucking high?
Vegetable_Wishbone92@reddit
No one is disputing that first impressions matters, but wearing a suit sets a bad first impression.
vivec7@reddit
A simple suit? Hell nah.
My attire will only ever go as far as jeans and either a buttoned shirt or t-shirt, depending on the circumstance. I do not want a job that requires a suit for any part of it, even if it's just the interview.
Fortunate enough however to work mostly from home, so my attire is footy shorts. I have a few mildly-worn t-shirts that I rotate through for meetings.
OK_x86@reddit
I said simple suit or business casual (a polo and khakis, for instance).
vivec7@reddit
I got that. I was just saying that a suit specifically is a bridge too far for me.
OK_x86@reddit
Depends on the environment I think.
If it's a corporate gig a suit is probably a very good idea. If it's a startup in some dudes garage?
Probably not.
Context matters. But, generally, so do first impressions.
vivec7@reddit
I don't disagree that first impressions matter, I just also take into consideration the first impression the business is giving me.
I do have a corporate gig, for what it's worth. Business casual was all that was required here. Jeans and a buttoned shirt for the interview(s) seemed appropriate, and daily attire is jeans and a t-shirt minimum for client-facing. I can get away with nice shorts in our office.
Suffice to say though that if I was required to wear a suit to those interviews, I'd have simply not applied. That first impression tells me the job isn't for me.
edgmnt_net@reddit
Business casual is well above my corporate job. During the summer some people came in wearing shorts. Now I don't know anymore since it's mostly remote.
Extension-Entry329@reddit
Hence why I test them by asking for dress code and the refuse to wear a suit.
sam-sp@reddit
Maybe the interviewer was an Oxford graduate and thought you should wear a robe like they do for exams?
s/
Either way you dodged a bullet.
Careful_Ad_9077@reddit
I hate to be that guy, but in my consulting gigs, one of the bottom companies regarding quality of work, was the one who wanted all their employees to dress up on suits.
But at least, unlike the other companies that were bottom quality, work wise, that one paid good money.
ButWhatIfPotato@reddit
Not a bullet, a freaking intercontinental ballistic missile. Guarantee you if OP got the job he would see the absolute limits on how much grown ass people can have toddler level meltdowns. People who have petty grievances about totally irrelevant stuff tend to have A LOT of them (and of course lots of them are contradictory or just straight up unenforcable) and they are not shy at all at trying to ruin your life if you even try and slightly deviate from their pathetic bullshit rules.
MathmoKiwi@reddit
An interview is when you're at your very best behavior with a future employer.
If you can't even do the slightest bit of dressing up and wearing a shirt for them as a sign of respect then what does this say about you?
spoonraker@reddit
That sucks, but obviously you're not in the wrong here. You dodged a bullet. Companies that have dress codes or even care whatsoever what candidates wear to interviews as long as it isn't distracting or offensive in this industry are vanishingly small and generally aren't companies that put much value in their technology team and would run it like a cost center constantly trying to do things as cheaply as possible with an incredibly shallow understanding of the value of technology and a culturally baked-in unwillingness to accept it.
There's a company local to me that's notorious for this. They have a business professional dress code for ALL employees, meaning men are required to wear suits with white dress shirts and ties and women are required to wear dresses or at least skirts and pantyhose. They're an absolute joke in the local developer community, and known for being one of the most toxic environments to work in (even beyond the dress code). They're like a cult. They don't hide from this image or downplay it, they lean into it, and try to glorify that they're "different" and the special way they do things is what makes them unique and successful (which they aren't they're just an old stuffy printing company who hasn't completely faded into obscurity by begrudgingly attempting to adopt some digital media and somehow hasn't completely failed, yet). They basically only hire interns and try to keep them because nobody experienced in the industry will go to work there, and because interns are cheap they can afford to be the compensation leader for interns in the area in order to attract people despite the dress code being a huge turn off. Also interns are generally easier to convince that what they do is at least somewhat normal because they haven't had any other work experiences yet.
fuckthehumanity@reddit
I use it as a litmus test, I usually dress down for an interview. If they complain about how I'm dressed, I walk.
There's a whole bunch of other things I say in interviews, many of which other folks recommend you don't say. These are designed as arsehole filters.
JamesLeeNZ@reddit
I have a 100% wfh role. I did an in-person interview. Do you know what I wore to the interview.
A dress shirt.
When I interviewed a guy to join my team and he turned up in a t-shirt, that was a cross against him... he sucked anyway, but turning up super casual worked against him just as much.
Why does that matter? It shows a level of care. If I dont care about something Ill turn up in trackpants/hoodie. If I care about something Ill make an effort.
How can I trust that the odd time you might need to meet a client you wont turn up looking like a muppet which represents the image of the company?
Nosferatatron@reddit
Were you meeting a world leader to negotiate a peace plan by any chance?
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
I was thinking of that same scenario 😆
AbstractLogic@reddit
I've found there are a few places that still expect proper attire. It's almost always things in the finance sector.
Frequent-Impress7216@reddit
Or anything regarding ‘Public Trust’
TheOnceAndFutureDoug@reddit
It really depends on industry and where you are. I live in San Francisco and half the time if I meet a CEO they're in a t-shirt. But if I go into the financial district I'm going to be expected to have a button down and slacks.
Heck, when I moved here 13 years ago my dad told me I should have a suit for interviewing. I told him it would count against me (and it would have).
But that's because that's how things work here. A lot of the world is still more conservative in this sense.
Jiuholar@reddit
I find a lot of the comments here interesting. It's an interview. There is a cultural understanding that it's a formal occasion, and considering how little effort it takes to wear a collared shirt, why wouldn't you?
You didn't get rejected because you wore a t shirt. You got rejected because you couldn't be bothered to wear a collared one.
RoxyAndFarley@reddit
Hard agree. The cultural understanding is you are putting your best foot forward and presenting yourself in a formal manner. If a plain black tee is your best and most formal, that doesn’t exactly entice them into wanting to know what the casual every day you is going to be like. Effort matters
PM_ME_UR_PIKACHU@reddit
I wear anime shirts to work. Fuck them
Sweet_Television2685@reddit
asian interviewer? highly likely
kiladre@reddit
Went to an interview in khaki pants and polo. Basic business casual, nobody would blink an eye on a golf course attire. Middle of California summer 90+ degree.
Interviewer said I should have dressed up more. “This might be fine in California, but wouldn’t fly in New York”
Didn’t get that job obviously but probably better off dodging that attitude.
Past-Listen1446@reddit
People are too casual these days; you should have worn a shirt.
Ill_Captain_8031@reddit
I would say RUN.
East_Step_6674@reddit
Anyone not wearing a plain black tshirt I fail because I don't want to work with some business person. If you're a coder you wear a black tshirt. That's how it works. The more rips in it the more experienced you are.
shozzlez@reddit
As an interviewer I can’t at I wouldn’t clock it. It wouldn’t purposefully affect my decision but it certainly could be part of several factors that give me an overall sense of how prepared a candidate might be.
DeterminedQuokka@reddit
What kind of company was it? This can happen in finance.
In advertising I once had to explain that they couldn’t reject a person for wearing a tie.
grahambinns@reddit
In person or remote, I’ve never not put on at least a smart casual shirt for an interview.
Sorry mate, I think this one’s on you.
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
Maybe, but in 17 years I've never worn more than a regular t-shirt, then not got a role and clothing be the reason. Replies here are pretty balanced though so it's something to be aware of in the future for sure
grahambinns@reddit
Fair enough — and to be transparent the only reason I always wear a shirt is because I can hear my mum turning in her grave at the thought of me not doing!
Actually, only a couple of jobs have needed me to wear smart clothes in the office too — once I'm past the interview stage its immediate casual clothing.
alltheseconnoisseurs@reddit
You're getting a lot of US-centric responses.
If the company is in London, or I assume any generic, hipstery, expensive UK city, and you weren't interviewing for a bank or, crucially, for a US company, then a smart black t-shirt is utterly normal and this will probably not happen to you again in another 17 years.
If the company is located in less of a tech hub, then it might be that they don't have the same expectations of what a software developer looks like and they just have an institutional norm that unfortunately you didn't psychically guess.
Just please don't take any culturally ill-informed advice to wear a polo-shirt - if anything that is considered less smart than a fitted t-shirt and you will look like you've turned up to fix something or you're off on holiday.
somkoala@reddit
I have recently joined a corporation after being in start ups and scale ups all my career. It’s director level. I wore t-shirt and short pants to my interview with the CEO and C-HR person. Screw these guys.
pythosynthesis@reddit
You're a Brit, so "Clothes maketh the man" should be known to you.
The real surprise, personally, is that you didn't get rejected previously if you never wore formal attire at interviews, not that it happened this time. Not saying this is"right" in any way, just that it's absolutely expected, at least in my experience. I usually don a full suit for interviews, even if then I'm going to hang around in jeans. It shows respect, that's what I've been taught. It might be odd, but it's certainly still strongly alive. At least in my experience.
alltheseconnoisseurs@reddit
Are you British also? I think we're notably more casual at work than the States, where it sounds like lots of this advice is coming from (I'm basing that on all the talk of polo shirts, which are absolutely not a normal office-job thing here!) we aren't as casual as the stereotypical scruffy, renegade programmer, but we're not US-office smart.
It's been hot here and a well-fitted, black t-shirt with a fitted cotton trouser and a nice shoe, boot or even a "work" trainer, is well within the realm of normal Spring office attire here, unless you're in a bank, a law firm, or another more conservative industry.
It may be that it's their first time interviewing in one of these industries and they didn't do their homework, or else they've just been unlucky enough to find an interviewer with expectations which are quite idiosyncratic. If it's the latter, it's not really surprising to me that they're surprised, I would be too!
Massive caveat: this might be London-centric as I've only ever lived here (but I've worked at plenty of places and I'm not young haha) it's probable that other places in the country, especially outside of cities, are a bit more smart at work.
Delicious_Spot_3778@reddit
Yeah I’m going with the sentiment that this would be a disastrous culture fit.
HankScorpioMars@reddit
Funnily, I came from a job where shirts were mandatory and when looking for a new gig, I noticed that my chances of passing any sort of technical interview were way higher if I wore a tee instead. A shirt made the technical staff treat me more distantly and even rudely once. I finally got a job, went to interviews without shaving and wearing a hoodie. But most of my wardrobe was still shirts and until I had renewed it with metal band merch, my new team looked at me like a wannabe manager.
Mountain_Sandwich126@reddit
My current job is that. This place is also immature, they have no idea about IT (just starting to dip their toes into tech to augment their business. As in non white label products).
They freaked out that i was not in a suit interviewing, they tend to hire based on what people can afford to wear... and it shows how incompetent they are.
Yes I have a very very low opinion of people who judge based on this. "Professional courtesy " by wearing a suit is absolutely nonsense and shows how little they actually understand about delivering value.
bigorangemachine@reddit
I wore a suit in 2005 and was told I was over dressed.
grappling_with_love@reddit
I've never been to an interview without wearing a shirt, suit jacket, smart trousers and shoes.
I've often been interviewed by a CTO in ripped jeans and a stained t shirt but I'm the one interviewing for their job. This dress code at work doesn't matter because I don't have the jobs yet.
I'm of the opinion you should dress smart for an interview. It's the basic thing to do to show you give a fuck.
UKS1977@reddit
I migrated to black smart tees from shirts because I didn't want to appear the big old manager type. I still wear a jacket over the top. I wanted to look a bit more chilled yet sharp - like a modern software company.
If they are focussing on nineties things like that - I bet that tech stack is similarly aged and troublesome
WillyummF@reddit
Did you seriously do an interview without a shirt and you’re curious about why you got that feedback?
EkoChamberKryptonite@reddit
Read the edit.
EkoChamberKryptonite@reddit
Was the interviewer, JD Vance?
master_palaemon@reddit
Many years ago (early 2000's) I showed up to a tech interview in a button-up shirt and a tie. I had worked in tech before, but the interview was in a downtown office in a new city so I felt like dressing up a bit. On my way out the interviewer told me to never, ever wear business attire again in this industry.
TopSwagCode@reddit
Still a thing some places. If it's a job I want, I will always wear business casual outfit for interviews. Same thing first couple days of work, until I get an idea what dress code is at location.
Simply wearing a better outfit / better mannered can be enough edge for you getting the contract / job. So I ain't taking no chances :D
There is this funny meme, where developer in job wearing a hoody and haven't shaved in ages. While the person interviewing is freshly shaved and wearing shirt and tie. Heck this is me :D No it's mostly when my girlfriend gets annoyed I remember to shave :P
pythosynthesis@reddit
I thought what you describe was just standard practice, pretty much everywhere. I'm learning this is not the case.
aq1018@reddit
This happened to me in 2005, for a programming internship position. I aced their technical interview questions, the reply was I didn’t wear suits to the interview. It was a part time college internship, they think engineering undergraduate has money for suits. 🤣
vivec7@reddit
I'd be screwed too. I have owned four suits in my life, each of them has been worn exactly once. My body changes too much in the years between suit-worthy occasions.
-Dargs@reddit
I don't personally see a problem with it but when I'm interviewing I'm trying to conform to a company that I know little about. There is a good chance they wouldn't give half a fuck post-hiring but in the interview process you've gotta be hyper critical as its competitive. From their perspective, its you vs 100 other people. If they're all wearing appropriate attire and showing they are professional, how do you look by comparison?
I say this as I hit my 20000th step on my walking pad in my undies with a hoodie at my remote work standing desk, during work hours, lol.
ContraryConman@reddit
Why not just dress up for the interview? Like a collared shirt. I don't think not doing so should trash the entire interview but
publicclassobject@reddit
I worked at a startup once where one of the devs was constantly joining meetings with no shirt on. It became a big joke inside the company. I really thought I was about to read a story about him in Reddit today.
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
sorry to disappoint
IMovedYourCheese@reddit
Did they send you the dress code beforehand? Regardless, it seems they are pretty strict about it, and you presumably don't want to work at such a place, so...just move on.
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
No, no dress code communicated beforehand, and I have never had that so I have never asked, and it's never been an issue (AFAIK) before.
Even though I mislead everyone into a dream of doing an interview shirtless, I usually do remote interviews in plain colour t-shirts and I'm just a regular looking guy.
These responses are pretty balanced though, so it's something I'll be aware of in the future.
dylsreddit@reddit
You'll find a lot of non-British answers here, but from a fellow Brit - personally - I always dress smartly for an interview because it seems like a generic unwritten rule.
My current position is fully WFH, I interviewed for it all via video calls, and I still wore a shirt (unbuttoned collar, under a jumper), which turned out to be a reasonable call as both three CTO and founder (when I did my second stage) were wearing shirts.
Yeah, tech is seen as more relaxed day-to-day and I now attend calls in a hoodie or t-shirt, but I wouldn't take that as a sign that I can interview that way.
wrex1816@reddit
OP, I think you're looking for validation here but this is a basic life skill. Dress for the job you want. If their culture is shirts and not t-shirts, then dress that way to get the job. That's on you, I'm sorry. When you run the company, you can choose your own dress code and code of conduct.
I know I'll be down oted by all the babies crying "That's not fair, I don't like shorts, my mom made me wear one, one time and I stomped by feet" but seriously, grow up. I find it difficult to beli6you are in the workforce as long as you claim.
As an aside though, I've worked at a variety of companies where it ranged from casual to smart business dress.... Personally I've never made someone's attire the issue but generally that feedback is more to do with your attitude or manner of speaking being far too casual and not a good culture fit, more than it is about the actual shirt you wore... The shirt is just a symptom of a bigger problem with the candidate.
Packeselt@reddit
Now this might depend, but I was talking with my dad recently about how if a programmer shows up to an interview in a button down shirt, they're either a nervous junior or lied on their resume.
95% of my interviews have been done by a guy wearing a t-shirt. Occasionally a polo, if they're SF based. Actual button down shirt? 0.
Zealousideal-Ship215@reddit
> but I was talking with my dad recently about how if a programmer shows up to an interview in a button down shirt, they're either a nervous junior or lied on their resume.
imo, judging a candidate based on overdressing is just as silly as judging them for underdressing. Some of us actually like to dress like grown up professionals.
PartyParrotGames@reddit
Dodged a bullet! If interviewer is a d-bag like that the company is definitely ridden with d-bags.
Cultural-Eggplant592@reddit
"I wasn't wearing pants either"
PM_ME_CRYPTOKITTIES@reddit
Apparently you can't even jack it during interviews anymore?? They even told me it was extremely inappropriate to tell the female employee to show vagene and boba. I really don't understand current work culture...
L8_4_Dinner@reddit
He's British, so "pants" also has a different meaning than here in the states. Kind of funny, actually ...
Which-World-6533@reddit
Yep, not sure why an interviewer would be able to know if I was going "commando"...?
mxldevs@reddit
Was that the only feedback?
RusticBucket2@reddit
”Sorry, guys. I’m a Brit so I don’t know what a shirt is.”
StillEngineering1945@reddit
So 17 years of exp and yet to learn that how you dress matters? The whole reasoning "non-client facing" is like if a plumber showed up covered in shit because, well, he is working with shit anyway.
FlailingDino@reddit
I suit up no matter what. It’s low effort and you are guaranteed to avoid stupid issues like this. Just eat the frog and wear a suit next time.
PoopsCodeAllTheTime@reddit
Then you show up to standup with your hair slightly uneven and they send HR after you to address the lack of decor
cougaranddark@reddit
I have one black polo shirt for interviews and decent restaurants. I only ever wear button-up shirts to weddings and funerals. TBH honest any job I've been hired for wouldn't have cared if I was in a t-shirt. If I was passed over for anything based on that, nobody's ever told me, but it's not impossible. I would have considered it a dodged bullet, I don't thrive around superficial formality.
dystopiadattopia@reddit
You've never thought about clothing on an interview before?
Interesting.
I probably wouldn't have dinged you for wearing a t shirt to an interview, but it does send a kind of "I don't give a shit this interview" vibe. Same if you were poorly groomed.
So yeah, put on a shirt. Make a small effort to show some respect for your interviewers.
DuckFan_87@reddit
Man, this got me a few years ago. I was being interviewed by people in T-shirts and they didn't like the fact that I was also wearing a T-shirt.
PoopsCodeAllTheTime@reddit
I got rejected for wearing sleeveless shirt after I passed all the technical assessments and had a video call with someone from C suite.
I'm from a tropical country, over here the heat gets unbearable at times. However, C suite business man has his whims and couldn't care less about my circumstances even tho they love hiring abroad to pay less in salary.
It's a circus and we are the animals entertaining the crowd.
Glad_Industry4788@reddit
Unless the interview is happening on a beach somewhere, you still need to wear a shirt
Yweain@reddit
Why? Is wearing a t-shirt or a hoodie an affront to someone?
IkalaGaming@reddit
I feel like there’s a language barrier here lmao
Glad_Industry4788@reddit
Not an affront to anyone, but it certainly doesn't help close the sale.
Papapa_555@reddit
every once in a while a shitty hiring manager needs to flex the decision maker muscle by rejecting a perfectly valid candidate for something absurd. Like they are the keepers of some high standard.
false79@reddit
There's an old saying that it's better to overdress than to underdress.
CarelessPackage1982@reddit
completely wrong. You wear a suit to a startup and you're definitely failing. It's better to know your audience. Right costume for the right audience.
https://carlos.bueno.org/2014/06/mirrortocracy.html
You need to look like the people who are hiring you
false79@reddit
I don't disagree. It would be more efficient to match ahead of time but the reality of that is that it's not always possible.
Having hired for startups, I don't subtract points if a candidate was dress more formal than the actual role I was hiring. My job in the interview is to look for technical fit, not dress code fit.
inhindsite@reddit
I would have gone smart casual myself. Polo shirt maybe. I think they see it as putting some effort in, or caring about the job. I know what you mean when you say what year is it but it's just a first impression, people can't help it.
Neverland__@reddit
Read between the lines: “you are not a culture fit”
Probs for the best and also fucking retarded
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
Cheers. Have a great weekend
CarelessPackage1982@reddit
https://carlos.bueno.org/2014/06/mirrortocracy.html
pewpewpewmoon@reddit
I've not worn pants to interviews, but letting your beer belly catch some sun is a new one to me.
Ok_Landscape_2405@reddit
Both American and British definitions of pants are out of bounds.
ElasticSpeakers@reddit
Lol, work culture is a funny thing (now that I know what is meant by 'shirt').
When I was hired by my current employer, I wore a suit to the interviews, even though I had already been working there for many months as a contractor, already knew everyone and the 'interview' was mostly a formality.
When I walked into the hiring managers office, holy shit, he's just staring me down shooting daggers. He very carefully says, 'today I will give you a pass, but if you wear a suit here again, it will be your last day.' That was 11 years ago.
Mostly a joke, I think, but choose a company that is the right culture fit for you and see this feedback as a dodged bullet.
SpriteyRedux@reddit
As someone in my 30s I would probably wear a button-down or at least a polo for an interview, but for a software job it's really not important, especially a remote one
iBN3qk@reddit
I haven't worn pants to work for the last 5 years.
horserino@reddit
Tbh, unless I was desperate for a job (which can happen), I'd take that as a filter for bad managers/companies. If they filter software devs on something like that I'm dodging a bullet if they reject me.
If I was more desperate I'd probably wear a "casual" button up shirt by default though.
lookitskris@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the responses so far - I'll keep it on my radar as something to ask before hand.
It's just one of those things that's never come up, and it's been so long I don't even think about it, which is why it threw me
ceirbus@reddit
Place is “old-school” which is a synonym for unnecessarily anal about employees and you’re being hired into a shit show where what you wear matters to some boss who calls the shots and HR/hiring manager doesn’t want to deal with the drama
fuckoholic@reddit
I have so much hair on my body, it's pretty much a winter coat. Nobody's ever said a thing.
Cool_As_Your_Dad@reddit
I always wear a tie even on remote interviews
Previous_Web_2890@reddit
My $0.02: very rarely is dressing too nicely for an interview ever a bad thing. It shows you take it seriously and put in effort for things you care about.
If the company recommends interview attire, then follow their recommendation. If they don’t, err on the side of more formal than more casual.
Cultural-Eggplant592@reddit
Hang on, you didn't tell us what you were wearing.
Come on, now. You didn't go topless surely?
alzgh@reddit
guy is so good he entered his recent past employments bareback
sleepyguy007@reddit
i interviewed a guy for a job for a former employer in 2019.... that wore a t-shirt. I grew up in a time when I was wearing suits to my first job interviews in like 2003/4 but I tend to at least wear a polo or collared shirt. I remember telling the guy I interviewed that his t-shirt had a hole in it..... hired him anyway and he's a good friend now.
I think maybe standards are lower especially in California , but given everyone is remote now maybe no one cares anywhere these days. The first time I interviewed in person at google, I was interviewed by a man with a giant beard in a dress and figured maybe no one cares.
PickleLips64151@reddit
You must have worn some really nice pants.
Yeah, I did my last three interviews wearing a T-shirt. It's what I'm going to wear everyday while I work. Why pretend?
ALAS_POOR_YORICK_LOL@reddit
That's a good way to establish dominance
serg06@reddit
Maybe they have too many applicants, so they're finding artificial reasons to bring that number down.
turningsteel@reddit
Yeah I always wear either a collared shirt or a sweater, something slightly more than a t-shirt. If I were a hiring manager, I personally wouldn’t care, but as a interviewee I like to play into the perception that I’m some kind of suave and sophisticated genius coder. I also always wear glasses instead of contacts. Like it or not, people have an idea of what professional means regardless of if the day to day dress code is casual.
hillman_avenger@reddit
Put it this way, if they're prepared to lose a potentially great hire just because of their dress sense, sounds like you dodged a bullet.
Personal-Sandwich-44@reddit
Yeah, when I'm interviewing I'll generally put on a "nicer" smart button down, or at least a polo minimum.
It really shouldn't be a thing, especially for non client facing positions, but it unfortunately randomly is, and I don't want that to be the thing that knocks me out of the running for a position I'm interested in.
VeryAmaze@reddit
I assure you, being dressed is still a thing in 2025
metaphorm@reddit
like, no shirt at all, or wearing a t-shirt when they expected a button down? what are we talking about here?
fschwiet@reddit
Were you wearing anything?