I've always done tanker, do flatbed drivers do the loading? I imagine they can refuse the load if it isn't loaded safely, but we all know that that's only an "option" if you want to get paid
My experience tells me this was a multi stop load. The first stop was all stacked on the passenger side. The driver should have asked the receiver to downstack the remainder of the product so it was level.
Had that on a 5 stop load but the load was lower so wasn't an issue. Those straps were not tightened properly. Also on PVC pipe loads I hook the wenches with bungie chords. They are a prime candidate for shifting.
When you have a non-centered stack, you're putting pressure on the stack to lean towards the hypotenuse of the strap triangle. The straps could have been tightened by the Hulk but once you get a few pot holes down the road, the load starts to shift and the straps loosen.
I run flatbed,never seen a pipe load stacked like that. I wouldn't move a muscle with that. Also it's packed wrong but those straps were loose af. They should be way tighter and have twists in them to not be whipped by the wind
I drive flatbed. We don't load our own trucks. We do almost everything else though. Lay dunnage, strap/chain, tarp, bungie. Occasionally we'll get preloaded trailers where you just pull up to the pick up location and swap trailers. I even had one time I went to a place and just had to back into a bay and they loaded, strapped, tarpped, and bungied it for me.
No, but we control whether it’s safe to transport, and if not, which a good flatbed driver clearly knows isn’t, would direct them to readjust the load, and if they won’t, you refuse to take the load. It’s that simple.
Well yeah of course. OP asked if we load our own loads or not. So I was explaining to them that we don't but, we do everything else. Thought it was common sense that we tell the people that load us to readjust the load if need be.
Common sense to someone that says, “I am not a flatbed driver…?” No, it’s not, and why I corrected you.
To someone that doesn’t know better, your comment made it sound like we virtually have no responsibility in how these get loaded, when actuality is, we have ALL the responsibility in that load once we put the keys in the ignition.
So I was just being clear for those that don’t know any better. Before I became a truck driver, there was a lot of things that I was ignorant about trucking, like accidents that kill people. I assumed the company had more responsibility handing a bad truck off to someone for cheap rates…until after trucking school and realized it’s all our responsibility once that key goes in the ignition.
Common sense to one is often ignorance to another.
I worked construction in Canada and we would load the trucks and the drivers would approve and strap it or get us to move shit/ redo it before they would. Some drivers wouldn't even look at the load and just start strapping it down as soon as the first part landed.
I drive flatbed. But I also mostly deliver locally (SE United States) and am home at night 80% of the time. I will stand and watch my truck get loaded. Forklift operators will ask how I want it loaded, etc. I'll direct traffic, so to speak. And once it's situated, I'll strap, recheck the load, and mosey on my way. But that's just my personal experience. I imagine long-haul loads are done differently. The way I see it, I am responsible for it once it's on the road. Im not gonna trust someone else's loading.
Long hauls, you check your straps after the first 30 minutes on the road to compensate for settling, then every morning you're slapping your straps and chains to make sure they're still tight and adjust as necessary.
When I was flatbedding we kinda directed how the loading went as far as how we wanted stuff positioned because axle weight, overhang, etc.
But you are responsible for securing it. And you better know how to strap stuff down, i learned on the fly with just a few days training so it was a lot of sink or swim. Thankfully I'm not a complete idiot and strapping stuff down isn't rocket psychology.
However comma pause for effect there was one instance where I had never strapped down coils before and asked another driver in the loading yard to give me a few pointers and he yelled at me saying that I was going to kill someone because my company should've trained me better. Like wtf bruh I've seen 8 trucks leave here secured identically, I got that part down but are there any tips you can give me to make it easier?
I refused a load because it was going to do this. They promised that it was the way they always loaded the trucks. I was told to put every trap and chain on the load I had. I had 12 chains and around 20 straps on it. Good thing I did because I went around a curve super slow and the whole thing came down. I turned around and chewed the fuck out of the whole office and got a few extra thousand dollars for the trouble.
Yeah and I'm definitely not judging you. Hell I'm still a rookie and screw up everyday, I'm just not having a major screw up and learn from my mistakes.
This looks like it was a multi stop load. I've done a few of these with that same kind of pipe. I would have had them reload it at the first stop. No fn way I would let it ride like that.
I usually load my own truck cuz I know how I like it. I know what's going to work and it's easier to do it myself than to sit there and try and give verbal or hand signals to an operator. That being said, it looks like a lot went wrong leading up to this incident. It looks like there's maybe four bundles stacked on top of each other. Those bundles should have been stacked 2x2 instead of 1x4. Also the whole load should have been centered rather than off to one side. Something tells me that truck driver might have been lazy and unloaded the right side of his truck on his first stop and said " f*** it my second stop is around the corner. It will be fine." and didn't recenter his load. Another thing that could have prevented this if he insisted on taking it 1x4 would be to strap down the first layer or two to keep it stable and then put the second two layers on top of that so at least you would have a more stable base.
I’ve had shippers help them out with placement but I never load/unload product. I’ve definitely had to tell some loaders to rework some stuff before. That said the temptation of “fuck it, I’ll make it work” is high. Especially when loading has been really slow.
Needs to strap each bundle, maybe 2 but strapping each bundle would be the safe option. Looks like it could be configured 2x2 instead 4 on top of each other.
failure to construct load - my partner got a ticket because a load of small trailers fell apart & then off her trailer. and on top of it they had to pay out to insurance, etc.
Driver is always responsible for the load. Those were some damn good straps on that pipe itself. Not sure how those bundles of pipe didn’t end up all over the road
I deliver that product, I load my own truck. That driver was probably LTL and had multiple orders loaded poorly, the last drop SHOULD have repositioned the slings of pipe for him. We help out all our LTL delivery trucks as much as they need. Ideally, he should have been unloaded back to front, not side to side.
I drive dry van. I don't load it, but, I over see it most times. The times I don't, the dock knows how I want it. That benefits them. So, we each do our part.
This was likely just someone not trained properly. If you threw me on a flat deck, I'd have to pull out my book from trucking school and skim through how to strap, how many straps etc. Even then, I'd need someone to double check my work. I'd want to be sure my load was secure. Using a bunch of straps over the top isn't the answer either. I know a bit, but have never needed that skill set.
Poor training. If a driver hasn't done it, or, is new. They need a refresher. Yard guys are usually good to help. Ultimately, it's the drivers responsibility. Hard to get a forklift on the side of the highway and you're going to attract the wrong attention.
Couple years ago I saw something that restored my faith in other drivers. A guy was hauling pipes much like these, and the load shifted on him a little bit. He pulled into a Flying J I was taking a 10 at, and I watched as two guys hauling dry vans backed up to each side and pushed the load back up to where it should have been. In less than an hour he had it re-strapped and was back on his way.
I don't know about the rest of the people here, but I was 28 years doing flatbed work, in another three years, hauling, van and reefer and double drop.I think qualifies me to be a professional.
Looks like he dropped a partial load and instead of taking off the top the first stop took the whole side. It should have been tagged so everyone knows. 10 years of being around pvc pipe, making,loading and hauling, and I know stuff like this happens. We always included instructions with delivery.
I haul pipe like this… the drive must of gave 0 f*cks because I am checking my mirrors constantly when I have a load of loose pipe double stacked… At my job of course all responsibility falls on the driver
My guess is he had a two stop load and that’s the second stop. It wasn’t loaded well in the first place and the driver should have had the first stop adjust the load.
Pipes are an easy load but they can be frustrating at times.
Strong Final Destination vibes riding behind the cammer. As in, he's likely never seen the 2nd movie. I can't imagine riding that close behind a truck hauling any load similar to a log trailer. Especially one that hasn't been secured properly.
This is the innovation we need. I’d like to be able to see forward in my seat and not have to be in the middle. Either figure out a way to collapse axles or flatten a body. Maybe a cool force field tech.
Driver doing the filming increases his following distance from 2 to 3 seconds. Personally, I'm thinking "his load is going right, Ima gong left". You know, that Smith system shit.
There is no way the driver would have not felt that, not checking the mirrors, and not seek the massive stack of PVC pipe hanging off your side is inexcusable.
I drive flatbed and never load myself, but I’m always there when getting loaded. It is the drivers responsibility to make sure the trailer is loaded correctly and the load is properly secured. If you work for a company that tells you to haul an unsafe load on a flatbed you should quit and walk away. If you kill somebody, you will take the fall, and you will go to jail. Any company that tells you to roll with an unsafe load will not hesitate to throw you under the bus.
sparrow_42@reddit
Stacking: F
Strapping: A+
Guilty-Tale-6123@reddit
I've always done tanker, do flatbed drivers do the loading? I imagine they can refuse the load if it isn't loaded safely, but we all know that that's only an "option" if you want to get paid
Waisted-Desert@reddit
My experience tells me this was a multi stop load. The first stop was all stacked on the passenger side. The driver should have asked the receiver to downstack the remainder of the product so it was level.
supajaboy@reddit
Had that on a 5 stop load but the load was lower so wasn't an issue. Those straps were not tightened properly. Also on PVC pipe loads I hook the wenches with bungie chords. They are a prime candidate for shifting.
Waisted-Desert@reddit
When you have a non-centered stack, you're putting pressure on the stack to lean towards the hypotenuse of the strap triangle. The straps could have been tightened by the Hulk but once you get a few pot holes down the road, the load starts to shift and the straps loosen.
supajaboy@reddit
I run flatbed,never seen a pipe load stacked like that. I wouldn't move a muscle with that. Also it's packed wrong but those straps were loose af. They should be way tighter and have twists in them to not be whipped by the wind
First_Light_6418@reddit
Its not worth it. I’d refuse to take this load. If they wouldnt fix it id tell them to take that off my truck
PShubbs91@reddit
I drive flatbed. We don't load our own trucks. We do almost everything else though. Lay dunnage, strap/chain, tarp, bungie. Occasionally we'll get preloaded trailers where you just pull up to the pick up location and swap trailers. I even had one time I went to a place and just had to back into a bay and they loaded, strapped, tarpped, and bungied it for me.
SolaSnarkura@reddit
No, but we control whether it’s safe to transport, and if not, which a good flatbed driver clearly knows isn’t, would direct them to readjust the load, and if they won’t, you refuse to take the load. It’s that simple.
PShubbs91@reddit
Well yeah of course. OP asked if we load our own loads or not. So I was explaining to them that we don't but, we do everything else. Thought it was common sense that we tell the people that load us to readjust the load if need be.
SolaSnarkura@reddit
Common sense to someone that says, “I am not a flatbed driver…?” No, it’s not, and why I corrected you.
To someone that doesn’t know better, your comment made it sound like we virtually have no responsibility in how these get loaded, when actuality is, we have ALL the responsibility in that load once we put the keys in the ignition.
So I was just being clear for those that don’t know any better. Before I became a truck driver, there was a lot of things that I was ignorant about trucking, like accidents that kill people. I assumed the company had more responsibility handing a bad truck off to someone for cheap rates…until after trucking school and realized it’s all our responsibility once that key goes in the ignition.
Common sense to one is often ignorance to another.
Schulzeeeeeeeee@reddit
I worked construction in Canada and we would load the trucks and the drivers would approve and strap it or get us to move shit/ redo it before they would. Some drivers wouldn't even look at the load and just start strapping it down as soon as the first part landed.
Guilty-Tale-6123@reddit
Thanks for the info
DarthBrownBeard@reddit
I drive flatbed. But I also mostly deliver locally (SE United States) and am home at night 80% of the time. I will stand and watch my truck get loaded. Forklift operators will ask how I want it loaded, etc. I'll direct traffic, so to speak. And once it's situated, I'll strap, recheck the load, and mosey on my way. But that's just my personal experience. I imagine long-haul loads are done differently. The way I see it, I am responsible for it once it's on the road. Im not gonna trust someone else's loading.
el_dingusito@reddit
Long hauls, you check your straps after the first 30 minutes on the road to compensate for settling, then every morning you're slapping your straps and chains to make sure they're still tight and adjust as necessary.
amazingmaple@reddit
It's the same anywhere with flatbed. They load it how I want it. Period.
DarthBrownBeard@reddit
Good to know... in case I ever want to leave the regional/local side of driving.
el_dingusito@reddit
When I was flatbedding we kinda directed how the loading went as far as how we wanted stuff positioned because axle weight, overhang, etc.
But you are responsible for securing it. And you better know how to strap stuff down, i learned on the fly with just a few days training so it was a lot of sink or swim. Thankfully I'm not a complete idiot and strapping stuff down isn't rocket psychology.
However comma pause for effect there was one instance where I had never strapped down coils before and asked another driver in the loading yard to give me a few pointers and he yelled at me saying that I was going to kill someone because my company should've trained me better. Like wtf bruh I've seen 8 trucks leave here secured identically, I got that part down but are there any tips you can give me to make it easier?
TastyOpossum09@reddit
I refused a load because it was going to do this. They promised that it was the way they always loaded the trucks. I was told to put every trap and chain on the load I had. I had 12 chains and around 20 straps on it. Good thing I did because I went around a curve super slow and the whole thing came down. I turned around and chewed the fuck out of the whole office and got a few extra thousand dollars for the trouble.
operative_mee@reddit
I'm glad it worked out for you, and I know you'll never let it happen again.
"We always load it this way!"
Well guess what assholes, today you're going to load it the right way. Mark this down in your calendar lol
TastyOpossum09@reddit
I thought I had raised enough of a stink to get it done but I definitely learned to trust my gut that day.
operative_mee@reddit
Yeah and I'm definitely not judging you. Hell I'm still a rookie and screw up everyday, I'm just not having a major screw up and learn from my mistakes.
Baddy001@reddit
This looks like it was a multi stop load. I've done a few of these with that same kind of pipe. I would have had them reload it at the first stop. No fn way I would let it ride like that.
YourLocalTechPriest@reddit
Not really. Ports are kind of the exception when it comes to drivable equipment. Galveston is known to be a load unload yourself place.
Auquaholic@reddit
Yeah, they suck.
ptk77@reddit
I usually load my own truck cuz I know how I like it. I know what's going to work and it's easier to do it myself than to sit there and try and give verbal or hand signals to an operator. That being said, it looks like a lot went wrong leading up to this incident. It looks like there's maybe four bundles stacked on top of each other. Those bundles should have been stacked 2x2 instead of 1x4. Also the whole load should have been centered rather than off to one side. Something tells me that truck driver might have been lazy and unloaded the right side of his truck on his first stop and said " f*** it my second stop is around the corner. It will be fine." and didn't recenter his load. Another thing that could have prevented this if he insisted on taking it 1x4 would be to strap down the first layer or two to keep it stable and then put the second two layers on top of that so at least you would have a more stable base.
bmf1989@reddit
I’ve had shippers help them out with placement but I never load/unload product. I’ve definitely had to tell some loaders to rework some stuff before. That said the temptation of “fuck it, I’ll make it work” is high. Especially when loading has been really slow.
sparrow_42@reddit
I wondered the same thing
TruckinTuba@reddit
Definitely, sometimes it's loaded poorly and they won't fix it so say fuck ita and throw all your straps
jonsalas@reddit
He decided he wanted to be oversize today.
KSLONGRIDER1@reddit
Oops.
Icy-Willingness9487@reddit
Not a professional either apparently
dnyte270@reddit
Brother forgot his wide load signage. Nothing to see here.
JakeJascob@reddit
That's on the driver and the loader. Load isn't centered and its stacked to high for something narrow and on pallets.
last_somewhere@reddit
Needs to strap each bundle, maybe 2 but strapping each bundle would be the safe option. Looks like it could be configured 2x2 instead 4 on top of each other.
onedarkhorsee@reddit
yeah theres no way that load was ever going to make it like that
ONE-EYE-OPTIC@reddit
Loader did a poor job, but driver should have refused.
I loaded and strapped trucks for a bit. Once the driver left it was their property.
I wouldn't have let that driver leave but some guys are fucking assholes and "NEED" to leave.
pakman82@reddit
failure to construct load - my partner got a ticket because a load of small trailers fell apart & then off her trailer. and on top of it they had to pay out to insurance, etc.
lordnaarghul@reddit
Literally a potential Final Destination there.
Definitive_confusion@reddit
So, for the non truckers like me, is that the responsibility of the driver or the people who loaded it?
offsetbackingtoright@reddit
Do you man who shares responsibility for this happening, or just who is going to be held fully responsible ?
Definitive_confusion@reddit
I mean did the driver fail something he was supposed to do or did the people who loaded it fall something
poolshark-1@reddit
Driver is always responsible for the load. Those were some damn good straps on that pipe itself. Not sure how those bundles of pipe didn’t end up all over the road
Entire-Bottle-335@reddit
Mirror check ❌
Constant-Kick6183@reddit
Final Destination vibes. Ain't no way I'm driving behind this guy.
RealSharpNinja@reddit
Um, I don't drive FB, but I think I would have gotten over right away. Dude just said fuck it and kept going.
caseyjay@reddit
I deliver that product, I load my own truck. That driver was probably LTL and had multiple orders loaded poorly, the last drop SHOULD have repositioned the slings of pipe for him. We help out all our LTL delivery trucks as much as they need. Ideally, he should have been unloaded back to front, not side to side.
pocoyo918@reddit
He changed the load to oversize still legal lol
Outlaw11091@reddit
FYI, this is what happens when someone slaps the load and declares that "THAT's not going anywhere."
It is still attached to the truck; therefore, send it.
AbbreviationsFun8591@reddit
Didn't they feel that? And check their mirrors. I would have lost my shit and pulled right over pronto!
Late-Recognition5587@reddit
I drive dry van. I don't load it, but, I over see it most times. The times I don't, the dock knows how I want it. That benefits them. So, we each do our part.
This was likely just someone not trained properly. If you threw me on a flat deck, I'd have to pull out my book from trucking school and skim through how to strap, how many straps etc. Even then, I'd need someone to double check my work. I'd want to be sure my load was secure. Using a bunch of straps over the top isn't the answer either. I know a bit, but have never needed that skill set.
Poor training. If a driver hasn't done it, or, is new. They need a refresher. Yard guys are usually good to help. Ultimately, it's the drivers responsibility. Hard to get a forklift on the side of the highway and you're going to attract the wrong attention.
RealBigDicTator@reddit
Couple years ago I saw something that restored my faith in other drivers. A guy was hauling pipes much like these, and the load shifted on him a little bit. He pulled into a Flying J I was taking a 10 at, and I watched as two guys hauling dry vans backed up to each side and pushed the load back up to where it should have been. In less than an hour he had it re-strapped and was back on his way.
Beginning-World-1235@reddit
Wholesome trucking moment
Beginning-World-1235@reddit
Who the fuck loaded this? A drunk forklift driver?
AgitatedSale2470@reddit
Man, I would’ve been hitting the brakes way harder if I was OP. Getting out of that lane.
jyoung314@reddit
OP has never seen final destination
Tricky_Big_8774@reddit
Neither have I and I would have been on the breaks a lot harder than that.
MissaIrie1@reddit
I came here to say that 🤣
BCouto@reddit
This is a genuine WTF. Who the fuck even loaded that and thought "Yep, this ain't going nowhere".
Questionoid@reddit
“You need an oversize/overweight permit to haul that” - said the nice officer.
United_News3779@reddit
Went from over-height to over-width pretty quick.
Few-Chemical-5165@reddit
I don't know about the rest of the people here, but I was 28 years doing flatbed work, in another three years, hauling, van and reefer and double drop.I think qualifies me to be a professional.
FinalBoard2571@reddit
Belly straps would help.
forsakensinner92@reddit
Rhymes with urban suburban
ConsequenceSweaty241@reddit
Wow that's bad the state police are never around when they need to be
soberguy7722@reddit
Damn shipper
CartographerWest2705@reddit
Looks like he dropped a partial load and instead of taking off the top the first stop took the whole side. It should have been tagged so everyone knows. 10 years of being around pvc pipe, making,loading and hauling, and I know stuff like this happens. We always included instructions with delivery.
D-ckMOSS@reddit
I haul pipe like this… the drive must of gave 0 f*cks because I am checking my mirrors constantly when I have a load of loose pipe double stacked… At my job of course all responsibility falls on the driver
datdudeuheardof@reddit
Incredible that the driver didn’t seem to notice and also incredible the pipes never hit the ground.
YourLocalTechPriest@reddit
My guess is he had a two stop load and that’s the second stop. It wasn’t loaded well in the first place and the driver should have had the first stop adjust the load.
Pipes are an easy load but they can be frustrating at times.
hamboner3172@reddit
Exactly my thought. Sometimes, the forklift operators don't want to move the stuff for the next stop and risk being responsible for damage.
flounderflound@reddit
Hell, I haul PVC all the time, you have to do something pretty stupid to damage it.
YourLocalTechPriest@reddit
It’s at that point you call dispatch. Safety is better.
It might have been one of those on the street unloads for a sewer project. Getting the load adjusted there is painful.
hamboner3172@reddit
Sometimes, if the load is light enough, you can cheat it over with straps/ratchets and at least get it centered.
YourLocalTechPriest@reddit
I’ve done that before but it’s sketchy as hell. I only did it because I was going to the outside of the city.
Maleficent_Beyond_95@reddit
You and that guy have something in common.
Gijinbrotha@reddit
Give me a tanker any day.
SnooBunnies7166@reddit
Lucky
Hambolove16@reddit
I drive a flatbed for uhaul
Forsaken_Airport_295@reddit
Final destination 7👀👀👀
_Aech_@reddit
Strong Final Destination vibes riding behind the cammer. As in, he's likely never seen the 2nd movie. I can't imagine riding that close behind a truck hauling any load similar to a log trailer. Especially one that hasn't been secured properly.
FlatbedtruckingCA@reddit
Ive seen this movie before.. dosent end well ...
eastcoasternj@reddit
What is this fucking audio.
Dyalikedagz@reddit
How is everybody not asking this question wtf
hotdog11inch@reddit
Running that middle lane like a dumbass
ONE-EYE-OPTIC@reddit
I loaded and secured trucks, never drove.
It was always the driver's decision. ALWAYS. Once they left the yard, it was their property.
TheBigRattler@reddit
Automatic lowering for bridge clearance? 🤷♂️ Needs to work on the “raising ‘em back up” mechanism, good effort though.
ZipTieTechnicianOne@reddit
This is the innovation we need. I’d like to be able to see forward in my seat and not have to be in the middle. Either figure out a way to collapse axles or flatten a body. Maybe a cool force field tech.
offsetbackingtoright@reddit
Driver doing the filming increases his following distance from 2 to 3 seconds. Personally, I'm thinking "his load is going right, Ima gong left". You know, that Smith system shit.
4runner01@reddit
That’s Jimmy Loostraps, from Indiana.
He’ll fix it right up at the next Flyin’ J
72jon@reddit
Got some points it’s still on the truck
uneducated_25@reddit
Looks like they needed some 2x2s between the pipes to keep ‘em from rolling over
Pitiful-MobileGamer@reddit
There is no way the driver would have not felt that, not checking the mirrors, and not seek the massive stack of PVC pipe hanging off your side is inexcusable.
jrshall@reddit
Driver must never look in his right side mirror.
Mehfisto666@reddit
Bro is not even stopping
VAiSiA@reddit
dafuq you mean? his stop lights hlowing
EntireRace8780@reddit
Definitely not that guy!
I drive flatbed and never load myself, but I’m always there when getting loaded. It is the drivers responsibility to make sure the trailer is loaded correctly and the load is properly secured. If you work for a company that tells you to haul an unsafe load on a flatbed you should quit and walk away. If you kill somebody, you will take the fall, and you will go to jail. Any company that tells you to roll with an unsafe load will not hesitate to throw you under the bus.
OrganizationNo6167@reddit
If I saw that in my rear view mirror I would need a new seat
Alliumna@reddit
Final destination: pvc edition
AndromedanPrince@reddit
is this in south/ga/jacksonville area
Baconated-Coffee@reddit
Right on the money, here's the Google map pin https://maps.app.goo.gl/iz6XNZUf7FEruRog8
AndromedanPrince@reddit
i saw this guy before this happened and thought the pipes looked cool. i said damn even the plumbing has a coastal feel to it.
Baconated-Coffee@reddit
You should definitely check out the map pin then
AndromedanPrince@reddit
bruh thats nashville lmaooo
meizhong@reddit
Wonder what happened to about half that load before this video even started.
KrisSanze@reddit
Task failed successfully
Baconated-Coffee@reddit
I don't know who is either but after watching the video we know of someone who isn't
Dadto12@reddit
Needs his Oversize Load banners now😆🤣
OGbigfoot@reddit
He's just deploying the rocket tubes.
HighwayStar71@reddit
Needs pilot car, now.
RayAlmighty13@reddit
Amazon delivery service, here he comes!!!
yolo_2345@reddit
Lucky no one around
Fit_Hospital2423@reddit
Sometimes it becomes very obvious as to the reason a man is driving a truck and not doing something else.
csimonson@reddit
Not that guy for sure