Does anyone have a Hypochlorous Acid Generator?
Posted by Icy-Cookie-8078@reddit | preppers | View on Reddit | 26 comments
Doing some research on it now and seems like its a pretty amazing and safe disinfectant you can make from cheap ingredients? The machines cost anywhere from $10 which I assume don't work to about $300 for a fancier version. I have bought it in bottles before and it has very low odour but works pretty well as a disinfectant. Good for kids, pets, food prep, pandemics, Is there an obvious downside I'm missing? Anyone have any experience with it?
CTSwampyankee@reddit
I just run a $100 ozone generator for a few hours if I need to ”try” to kill off mold or mildew in bunker.
hope-luminescence@reddit
I, uh, think you shouldn't do this?
This is about water purification.
CTSwampyankee@reddit
google told me it’s a spray mist formula.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/hypochlorous-acid-mist-review/
straight bleach is the quickest to purify water
hope-luminescence@reddit
Hypochlorous acid is closely chemically related to bleach. The issue is that bleach is bad for prepping because it spoils over time. Hypochlorous acid generators let you make it fresh.
Most of what people are talking about here isn't mist. But obviously you can turn anything into a mist if you pump it through some kind of spray nozzle.
OtherwiseAlbatross14@reddit
Yeah an ozone generator in a bunker is definitely a bad idea regardless of whether it's relevant here or not
HillTower160@reddit
How do you know it’s effective?
MagnoliaProse@reddit
I have force of nature. It’s supposed to kill most viruses and covid. I use it for general cleaning as well as sanitizing after going somewhere in public. (I spray myself and the kids down before we get in the car.) I have no complaints.
silasmoeckel@reddit
Not much to it it's electrolysis of salt water to make HCIO doubt there is much difference between the 10 and 300 unit.
I tend to stronger stuff powered pool shock a tiny bit goes a LONG way. Can clean with it and sterilize water.
As to the disinfectant would rather make H2O2 because it has more uses.
Paranormal_Lemon@reddit
Never heard of a peroxide generator, will have to look into it. Does it just bubble ozone through water?
silasmoeckel@reddit
I dont know of a COTS one like the OP was looking at, it's breaking out the chem lab to do it. Made it before so know the what and how and have enough gear to do it on hand. Lots of useful preps in knowing fairly basic chemistry and having done it before. But I come from a time when you got uranium in your kids chemistry set.
hope-luminescence@reddit
H2Go?
silasmoeckel@reddit
Thats salt based to get you chlorine as well.
Paranormal_Lemon@reddit
Oh, I didn't have uranium in mine just a bunch of toxic chemicals which I of course tried to set on fire and made them more toxic
ZealousidealLunch936@reddit
I like it a lot, got the force of nature generator. Downside is I need to do testing to figure out the ratio for the machine for diy, but eventually I'll get it done and can post my results
CodyDon@reddit
I made something a few years ago. Been meaning to make an updated version but you will get the idea: https://youtu.be/uqUZo3ZIHXE?si=cy6jTrqa-fRioy1O
demwoodz@reddit
Get it. Try it. Dm me for questions
Paranormal_Lemon@reddit
I have a cheap USB one and it works fine. Came with test strips and also confirmed with another chlorine test it does produce the concentration it says it does.
As the other poster said it's just titanium electrodes, the concentration is determined by voltage, salt concentration and distance between electrodes, and time.
demwoodz@reddit
Second
LopsidedRaspberry626@reddit
I have this one (actually multiples of it)
USB maker from AliExpress
I brew mine a gallon at a time in an old vinegar bottle. 2.5 teaspoons of salt, 1/4 cup of vinegar (ish) and fill it up with water. Brew for about 70-90 minutes. Cap the gallon, mix it up good and then check the chlorine levels with a test strip to make sure you're around 200 ppm.
Test Strips - Amazon
OnTheEdgeOfFreedom@reddit
I built one to try out the concept. It produced something with a faint bleach smell. I then took it apart again because I had no idea what concentration I'd produced, so it was useless - and if you can get testing materials, you can still get bleach, so why bother.
It's like any other home chemistry project - unless you use pre-mixed, pre-measured reagents, you have no idea what the output is, how well it disinfects, how toxic it is, etc. Hypochlorous acid isn't wildly toxic at low doses. Did you make a low dose? What other byproducts are in there? If you don't use it right away, how long does it stay effective? You don't know.
I can think of rare edge cases where I'd try it anyway, but out here in the real world if things are so crashed that you can't buy a bottle of bleach, you're going to have so many other problems that not being able to disinfect your socks isn't going to make the chart.
And in case anyone is considering it, please don't use homemade disinfectants on wounds, for inhalation or for ingestion. You can do more harm than good in the first case and the other two cases are just insane, even though people have suggested them.
Jules6146@reddit
When I researched it a couple years ago, I went with a machine with a titanium coil, from a company that makes industrial machines for food manufacturing plants, as well as a household model. My understanding is the cheaper metal coils can corrode, and eventually begin producing bleach instead. Been using it for a while now and very happy with it.
Paranormal_Lemon@reddit
Electrolysis normally produces hypochlorite not hypochlorus acid
greeneyestyle@reddit
Yes
HairyAd6483@reddit
Yup. I've got one.
Traditional-Kiwi-356@reddit
Like Force of Nature? We use that around the house.
Dangerous-School2958@reddit
Any info you recommend reading on it? Never heard of it