Gunmen kill 7 people, including children, in central Mexico; cartel messages left at crime scene
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IntrepidAd2478@reddit
The world needs to stop pretending that Mexico is not a failed state. It does not have anything approaching a monopoly on the use of force, rule of law for most people, or meaningful control of its borders.
Sadly the solution, ending drug prohibition in the USA appears to be off the table.
SoSickOfPolitics@reddit
Yeah dude, let’s legalize fentanyl. The cartels will throw in the towel and start going to church, meanwhile american society will be better off with more of it in circulation. It’s like weed.
IntrepidAd2478@reddit
No, the drug companies will start selling drugs in known purity and known quantities, produced safely. Disputes will be resolved in courts, not gun battles. All the money spent on a futile attempt to suppress a black market, and the corruption of civil society from bribery and intimidation will be largely eliminated, and the money saved can go to education and treatment.
SoSickOfPolitics@reddit
Yeah dude, that’s OxyContin and it plays a critical role in the opioid epidemic. Money never is distributed appropriately. Massive difference between what could happen and what does happen.
IntrepidAd2478@reddit
Name one time where prohibition of a substance people manifestly want has worked out well.
AdditionalNothing997@reddit
You’re absolutely right - legalizing weed has made the problem absolutely worse. You can’t drive to Oakland, CA without smelling weed. You have homeless druggies tottering around Berkeley or Seattle or Boston. Wish it was never legalized!
SoSickOfPolitics@reddit
Yeah, no. This wasn’t my message. MJ will turn you into a stupid ass Redditor, but it won’t destroy you like an opiate or benzo. These pharmaceuticals are more than a human can handle, apparently.
HomoHominiBepis@reddit
Is this satire?
AdditionalNothing997@reddit
No - having an opinion different from you - why does it have to be satire?
I was originally in support of legalizing weed, it didn’t feel right that people should go to jail for minor stuff. Now that it’s legalized, I see whole cities going to pot. My original perspective was clearly incorrect, it should never have been legalized… IMHO
Beautiful_Bag6707@reddit
It's been legal in Canada for years. It's fine. No crime uptick. No weird pot smell in entire cities. Cannabis shops everywhere. No big deal.
HomoHominiBepis@reddit
Yea people should go to jail because you don't like the smell
AdditionalNothing997@reddit
The smell is just an indication of how pervasive it has become. Drinking is legal but you don’t see people drunk everywhere.
fouriels@reddit
In the UK you can go to any large public park at any time of day and there will be a guy drinking tins of cider or superlager, and I don't imagine it will be significantly different in the US
HomoHominiBepis@reddit
We were better off in the early era of the opioid crisis, people were getting high on regulated pharmaceuticals and less people were dying. Cutting back on those scripts led to the rise of fentanyl and increasing deaths
SoSickOfPolitics@reddit
There ya go buddy. The problem is definitely getting hot dosed and not being addicted to the extent that you get hot dosed. Your favorite successful countries incarcerate or kill the people taking these medications, so there is certainly precedent for it working.
Infamous-Cash9165@reddit
Because that’s not the solution? The cartels make much more money on illegal mining, illegal logging, and extorting lime and avocado farmers than they do from drugs. Drugs are just a legacy business for them.
Just-use-your-head@reddit
Lmao there’s only one source, on one specific cartel, from 2014 that claims that.
Cartel primary revenue is far and away the drug trade
IntrepidAd2478@reddit
What is your solution?
L_viathan@reddit
It's only a few steps removed from Haiti.
LowRevolution6175@reddit
I lived in Mexico for many years. It is a patchwork state - CDMX is a world-class city and sheltered from most cartel violence. The rest of the country, well, lets just say there are a lot more Detroits than Bostons
AdditionalNothing997@reddit
I have been severely downvoted by redditors for saying Mexico is an unsafe country. They have severe issues with policemen, army, mayors even getting murdered, which is vastly underreported. This is one of the few articles which states the extent of the situation, almost 0.5M people murdered by cartels in the last 20 years…
mcotter12@reddit
Any source on what the messages were?
Kush18@reddit
Remember when we thought this was so horrible? Then Israel showed up and murdered 100 children a day for 18 months in a row and made the Mexican cartels look like white birthday cake from Walmart bakery
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