Democracy at its Finest
Posted by AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 346 comments
Posted by AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 346 comments
SirCrackWaffle@reddit
Americans who never implemented voter ID surprised that other countries can actually tell when fraud happens.
SomethingBuggingYou@reddit
This is also the same country that saw Al Gore present credible evidence of vote discrepancies only to have the supreme court go
>lol nah fuck off Bush is president because we said so, cry about it
Only for Bush to then leave the country in shambles due to bank deregulation triggering the 2008 recession
MarleyandtheWhalers@reddit
Credible evidence of vote discrepancies:
"Yeah, the people of Florida would vote for other Democrats but for some reason didn't vote for me, a political candidate with negative charisma. Isn't that suspicious, United States Supreme Court?"
BoloRoll@reddit
Tbd tho voter ID is inherently racist. Some people just don’t know how to get it
danishledz@reddit
Ah yes my favorite race - the stupid.
Freeze_Wolf@reddit
Poor kids are just as bright as white kids!
fiftyfourseventeen@reddit
Voter ID is racist because some races are too stupid to get an ID?
BoloRoll@reddit
Now you’re just twisting my words. Voter ID has always been structurally racist. They aren’t smart enough because school systems failed them, the IDs are racist because they are used to keep black and marginalized voices out of the democratic system since they often don’t have the resources or knowledge on how to get them.
JohnBGaming@reddit
This is bait
BoloRoll@reddit
But yeah it was bait lol
BoloRoll@reddit
There have literally been multiple studies on this. MSU for example, it’s been brought up in congress. It’s a real debated issue
fiftyfourseventeen@reddit
Personally I feel like if you can't even figure out how to get an ID it's probably better to not vote because you are definitely not going to be an informed voter.
By the way they KNOW how to get an ID, they just are too LAZY to get one. That's the problem. Anyone who wants an ID can get one, but it requires an hour or two of effort every 5 years or so which is too much for some people
BoloRoll@reddit
There is often a lack of resources
bigwilly39@reddit
Skill issue
fiftyfourseventeen@reddit
What resources? 10 bucks over 5 years to pay for it?
SoyjakvsChadRedditor@reddit
Russian bots seething lmao
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
Mr-Clive@reddit
On the off chance this isn’t rage bait, as a Romanian all I can say is guess a simple google search is too much for you
HomeworkOwn2146@reddit
Are Romanians stupid then? They all voted for a supposed Russian "plant" the first time round.
PearceWD@reddit
Americans elected donny for the second time last year as well...
SunderedValley@reddit
People said the election was unfair because the candidate won due to a viral TikTok campaign.
No seriously. That's what the justification was.
malfurion1337@reddit
You neglect to mention said candidate had a ton of undeclared, unexplained campaign funds with which to fund his sudden rise in popularity, despite literally no one knowing who he was a couple months prior.
Funds which, turns out, were provided by russian subsidiaries, which literally constitutes as foreign election interference.
Also literally every little thing he said during his campaign was actual schizo rambling and heavy pro-russian propaganda bullshit, if you ever listen to a word he says, he sounds like hes genuinely forgotten his meds.
But yeah just conveniently forget to mention those little details, lil russian shillbot.
OliverMonster1@reddit
They all do this. Even in America. Election finance laws are written to intentionally prevent grass roots popular candidates from actually succeeding. You either need enough power and influence to circumvent the law or have enough momentum to get through any legal scrutiny. Thinking these pro mass migration candidates aren't taking tons of illegitimate money just because there's no push to investigate them doesn't mean they aren't breaking the law.
Beginning-Dot-9582@reddit
and he almost won? boy romanians really are retarded.
CroatInAKilt@reddit
This guy is not joking, he said stuff like you need to be on the Carpathian mountains so you can be closer to God when you pray, a woman having a c-section cuts off her link to God etc etc. He was genuinely fucking wacko, this isn't just your usual Trump clone.
foreveracubone@reddit
Oh shit welcome back Ceasescu
AzKondor@reddit
Social media can manipulate people yes that's what happened
OneMoreName1@reddit
So, power to the people until the people choose wrong, then thats manipulation and we gotta try again?
What does it even mean that they were manipulated? Millions of people went and put the stamp on whoever they liked, how is that bad because of tiktok? You can literally go vote by rolling a dice too. It's your choice who you vote and why.
19Alexastias@reddit
People can vote however they want. Election candidates have to follow the rules of the election, and funnily enough getting a shitton of funding from a source you won’t disclose is against the rules.
AzKondor@reddit
I think this guy blocked me, I cannot leave comment under his lol
You cannot simplify complex, years long technological/political process to one sentence, everything will look silly then. If one country would made false flag attack on itself to manipulate their citizens on attacking another nation, and people would try to stop it, would you say "So, power to the people until the people choose wrong, then thats manipulation and we gotta try again?"?
No, power to the people always, to well informed people. No power to Russians manipulating other countries.
As to what does it mean - wikipedia, "Accusations of Russian interference in the 2024 Romanian presidential election"
krafterinho@reddit
That's literally false but people just have to parrot bullshit about situations they know nothing about. The candidate was excluded for breaking electoral campaign funding rules
753951321654987@reddit
I love it when another country alters their algorithm to promote a candidate that supports their case. Manipulation and misinformation don't exist. China and Russia don't want to conqure anything exept their neighbors
FlashAttack@reddit
Kindly consider choking on your borsch slopp lil slav
cocoelgato@reddit
Careful spitting out facts like that can get you cancelled by our greatest allies
YakaAvatar@reddit
No, the justification was that the idiot declared $0 for his campaign, yet had a massive propaganda machine on tiktok and facebook, with tons of adds, bought influencers and an army of bots.
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
wrong democracy
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
Yes they are, gladly we have democratic mechanisms that let us remove the popular candidate to piss off... Russia, which is well known for doing exactly the same. Whatever, keep winning reddit.
OliverMonster1@reddit
Do a heckin' win for open borders! We can own the Right by allowing unlimited illegal immigration.
FullTimeHarlot@reddit
Very high chance the UK will vote Farage in 2029, so add us to the maybe list.
Throwaway74829947@reddit
The Tories led the polls for the 2024 general election for the first two years after the 2019 general election, and you're using polling data from not even a year after the 2024 election to predict the outcome of the next general election (which won't necessarily be in 2029 - it just can't be any later than then)?
Also, the UK doesn't vote for their prime minister. They vote for their local MP, and the leader of the party that wins the most seats is nearly universally appointed Prime Minister (one of those weird British things where it's technically the monarch's decision and power, but if they did anything else it would be taken away).
FullTimeHarlot@reddit
Ok, you're taking this comment way too seriously. Of course I don't know for sure if Reform will be the ruling government of the UK in 4 years time. No-one does. It was more vibes focused than based on material data. But that Starmer's polling has shot so far down in less than a year after taking power, and that Reform gained more than 600 councillors, 10 councils and 2 mayors this month, it's not beyond the pale to suggest Reform are gunna have a good time at the next election (no idea why you went off on 2029 maybe not being the next election. It's literally the next expected one).
You don't need to explain the UK's first-past-the-post election system to me; I understand it more than enough. I don't know why you bothered.
Downside190@reddit
I will be surprised if reform make it to the next election with the way their councillors keep resigning and mps quiting or being outted due to inter party politics
kissmibacksidestakki@reddit
A5 cope dude
Mehzaaa@reddit
have you seen who is the current leader of Reform
Tz33ntch@reddit
Americans actually elected one and did it twice
nikoll-toma@reddit
well, they are gypsies, so they are stupid by default
Sashanutata@reddit
Pretty much. He talks about coke with nano chips, aliens, how religion is the most important part of society progression. Mistakes Valahia with Valhala and tells the romanian people that they should ascend to Valhala. And most romanians are like: "Wow da bravo boss da"
Tz33ntch@reddit
Americans voted for the same and see no issue
Graped_in_the_mouth@reddit
So did Americans, except they fell for it twice lmao
krafterinho@reddit
If by "all" you mean less than 25%, sure
Sfinxul@reddit
Yup, they got duped by a tiktok campaign with bots and payed "influencers"
OneMoreName1@reddit
We both know that if it was the "correct" candidate who was winning due to tiktok nobody would have cared
AzKondor@reddit
if you have any proof of the other candidate accepting funds from other countries and manipulating voters, please share, with us and romanian government
OneMoreName1@reddit
We don't have proof of the candidate who got banned accepting funds either thats the problem. It's all a bunch of weak suspicions and accusations.
The media could just spin it around to almost any candidate, and it would be almost as believable. What they found, allegedly, is groups of tik tok influencers who promote his campaign. Im pretty sure each candidate has groups which they receive support from, this election, the winner got direct support from officials from other countries (Donald tusk, Macron) and thats not considered foreign political interference?
Am I understanding it correctly that to get a candidate banned I just need to spin up a bot farm promoting his tiktoks? And without direct link or proof of involvement from said candidate he will be disqualified?
AzKondor@reddit
Again you are saying really big, important and hard things as "just". If I understand correctly, to be rich I just need to win a lottery? Yeah, but I wouldn't use "just" hah
You ask if you would use a lot of money to create bot network, to influence millions of voters to vote on basically unknown candidate that didn't reallly exist on political stage before, should that person be disqualified? Well, sounds like yeah, they probably should? At least investigation should be run to check connections between you. Context matters.
Now you answer me, so to establish a candidate in a foreign country that would benefit me, I can manipulate anybody I want, I can play commercials on TV, control milions of bots on tiktok, youtube, facebook, reddit, etc., even drop flyers of airplanes in every mayor city 3 times a day, as long that specific candidate is not paying me, so there is not paper trail coming from them to me? Well that sounds awesome.
OneMoreName1@reddit
Yes, yes you should because a democracy should be about who the people choose, not whom the government deems eligible to rule. Otherwise you just have a fixed system where the will of the people is suppressed, and instead you have a system that just feeds itself. Liberal democracy allowing only liberal democracy to run (with a sprinkle of centrism)
AzKondor@reddit
So USA with their billions of dollars should be able to install their puppets in every country in the world?
Everything needs checks and balances.
OneMoreName1@reddit
Like they haven't already? Lmao. Thats exactly what American soft power has been for the past half century, and the only countries that escaped it, usually severely censored western influence.
AzKondor@reddit
Exactly! No country should be able to do it, good for those countries, good for Romania too.
lesseva96@reddit
Dumb projection. The "correct" candidate would not have accepted Russian slush funds for their campaign.
OneMoreName1@reddit
Of course, its all an infantile fight of good vs evil in your mind is it not?
The side you like is the good guys, the other is the bad guys, simple.
19Alexastias@reddit
If they’d accepted slush funds from any country they would have been disqualified for cheating also. It just so happens that it was almost certainly Russia.
OneMoreName1@reddit
Could you please send me some definite proof that this thing you say happened? Not just a headline which says, "X suspected of", a definitive finding which incriminates him.
19Alexastias@reddit
Romanian intelligence found that money was illegally used to set up hundreds of tiktok accounts that backed him and the courts denied his appeal. If you want to see the evidence you can go find it yourself, it’s not my job to spoon feed you.
Also, I never said it was definitely Russia. They’re just by far the most likely candidates. I also said that what matters is that he broke the laws, who he received the money from in breaking those laws is interesting politically but not really relevant to why he was disqualified.
OneMoreName1@reddit
I am asking for you to spoon feed me because no, I can't find any evidence. I can only find suspicions and accusations, not hard evidence that would be grounds for their decisions. If everything you speak of is true and undeniable, doesn't that mean treason? Why isn't he in prison?
19Alexastias@reddit
All they can prove is that the funds were not legitimately obtained (I.e he did not declare them). That’s not treason, that’s just cheating. It’s still enough to disqualify him.
If you’re waiting for hard and undeniable proof of foreign interference, then you’re naive. Never gonna happen. Absolute worst case scenario is someone in his campaign staff will be imprisoned over it, and even then there won’t be any hard evidence linking them to Russia, or anywhere else.
That’s just how it goes. Most foreign interference is never directly proven, because the countries orchestrating it aren’t stupid enough to leave an obvious paper trail. Same with how basically all the terrorist groups in the Middle East are being funded by one or another of those countries. You’ll never actually prove it, but everyone knows it’s true.
Immatt55@reddit
Americans won't understand this sentence because they elected a Russian plant and saw nothing wrong with it.
Sure is interesting exactly how hard swing states swung and how they all swung in a similar way. Is even more interesting how after the results he said "Elon knows a thing about voting machines."
Huh, wonder what that could mean. I'm sure there's nothing to it though.
Beginning-Dot-9582@reddit
i cant believe that you people are STILL on the russian collusion thing. Rent free
luckac69@reddit
If the people want a Russian plant/other bad thing, a Russian plant/other bad thing is what they will get!
Mr-Clive@reddit
If by correct you mean law abiding, yes lol. This one broke electoral legislation during his campaign, of course he was kicked out. Write your own narrative if it helps you sleep at night, doesn’t change the facts.
PowBambi@reddit
Dude nobody in the west can name 2 Romanians.
Mr-Clive@reddit
Good for you? Doesn’t change what I said. I’ve lived all over Europe and know that just as well as you do. I’ve been asked if I’m from the Roman Empire by Dutch people. Still only take 5 minutes and a chrome tab to fact check something
PowBambi@reddit
Are the Balkans real
Mr-Clive@reddit
It’s just an urban legend
longfoot@reddit
Why are you Romanian?
Apep_11@reddit
Right??
HomeworkOwn2146@reddit
Are Romanians retarded then? They all voted for a supposed Russian "plant" the first time round.
KernunQc7@reddit
Back across the Atlantic/Urals with you.
Spagete_cu_branza@reddit
If you google canceled elections in Romania you will get all the answers. But i guess that's not the point isn't it?
Anyway, Romania won and all the propaganda campaigns have failed. We are now even more resilient than before, so Russian and shit ass nationalists can keep on pouring money & resources into anti Romania propaganda- we will continue to win regardless. Keep it up!
saracuratsiprost@reddit
Check Russian news. Trumpets foaming live.
whatThePleb@reddit
found the russian
katherinesilens@reddit
RT was literally crying about this and how their efforts were foiled by intelligence, so yes. Russia seethes.
Platinirius@reddit
They are the worlds equivalent to a barking dog.
Timeon@reddit
A rabid dog in need of a bullet.
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
Yep
MegaJackUniverse@reddit
800,000 post karma? Shut the fuck up you gaping anus
rolfsonofasheppard@reddit
He cheated on the election system. Of course you cancel the elections when something interferes. Sunday was proof that Georgescu wouldn't have won... Romanians go to vote in mass only when they are on the edge. all presidential elections were the same, except the 90-2004 years. Also, the guy that lost on sunday is on the same level of stupidity and aberrations as georgescu..maybe not the same but very close. Yet these elections were approved knowing that the far right candidate would throw the country to russians and pose a real threat to the entire system. So shut the fuck about canceling the elections....
Apep_11@reddit
Quite literally, yes. They were seething. They are currently seething.
Are you seething? It looks like it. Are you even informed on the subject at hand?
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
BLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTT
Mehzaaa@reddit
I'd seethe my balls off if my russia loving candidate got shitcanned if I was Putin rn
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Eglin Air Force bots working overtime to cope
inventingnothing@reddit
Check out my new children's picture book "Everyone I disagree with is a Russian bot"
rs6677@reddit
Not everyone, there's also the useful idiots that got misled by the Russian bots.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
I only believe in USAid and eglin Air Force bots personally
OneMoreName1@reddit
Compared to every other useful idiot who is just mislead by their own government/eu instead
Extra_Crispy_Bacon@reddit
Davai komrade, here is 100 roubles for you
OneMoreName1@reddit
Disagrees with me = russian.
There is no war in ba sing se. The government told me so. The government wouldn't lie.
BoloRoll@reddit
Berlin bot
MikoMiky@reddit
JD Vance was right when he spoke at Munich a few months:
"Yes you can think it's bad that Russia is trying to influence elections, we certainly believe so. But if the results of your elections can be changed by 500.000 dollars worth of social media advertising, you have a much bigger problem on hand."
visforvienetta@reddit
Do Americans really not believe they're susceptible to Russian propaganda?
Soggy_Door_2115@reddit
500.000 dollars worth of social media advertising is not going to do shit to change a meaningful amount of voters in a nation of 300 million people.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Do leftists really not believe that the leftists aren’t also being brainwashed by propaganda?
Russian bots can still define what a woman is and tell you how many genders there are
visforvienetta@reddit
I'm pretty sure leftists and rightoids are both equally unaware of how impacted their opinions are by MSM and social media.
Russian bots constantly yapping about gender and "defining a woman" is subversion because it keeps people focused on culture war nonsense instead of real problems.
Free-Design-8329@reddit
90% of posters claiming Russian bots on 4chan have a pajeet or Israeli flag
Just cause Reddit doesn’t have flags doesn’t mean you arent a jeet or jew
BanzaiKen@reddit
This is considered propaganda in the year of our Lord 2025
visforvienetta@reddit
Emphasizing information A while downplaying information B is propaganda. Do you believe propaganda is the same as lying?
BanzaiKen@reddit
I think we have bigger problems when truth and propaganda are indistinguishable for the average citizen due to a broke ass Slav shitposting with a Macbook.
visforvienetta@reddit
Propaganda isn't the opposite of truth
BanzaiKen@reddit
Good propaganda is an advertisement wrapped around a core of truth.
visforvienetta@reddit
So then why would we have a problem when propaganda and truth look the same? You yourself just defined good propaganda as an advertisement wrapped around TRUTH.
You literally don't disagree with me? My initial point was that propaganda isn't misinformation, it's selectively using the truth the push a narrative. We're saying the same thing, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Peak reddit.
BanzaiKen@reddit
Ok buddy
snizarsnarfsnarf@reddit
Why are you suddenly talking about every single US media platform? You know, the one that billions and billions of dollars are spent on every year to indoctrinate the docile little burgers
visforvienetta@reddit
I was talking about the concept of propaganda generally
JERRY_XLII@reddit
A Russian making fun of a generationally destabilising war is profoundly ironic
NuteTheBarber@reddit
The dnc spent a billion on Kamala and influenced no one what could russians do in comparison?
Taken_Abroad_Book@reddit
Peak reddit
s00pafly@reddit
Who needs nasty Russian propaganda when you have strong and attractive American propaganda at home.
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
the fact that u didn't even point out zionist propaganda in the us shows just how oblivious u are to real propaganda.
but keep fighting putler!!
derp0815@reddit
They just think they're more expensive because of exceptionalism.
throwawayeastbay@reddit
As an American, we are one of the most heavily propagandized nations on earth, by multiple actors
MikoMiky@reddit
Imagine thinking the problems in Europe exist only because of Russian propaganda
It's not russian propaganda that's effective because the underlying issues in Europe are unresolved, surely?
biggie_s@reddit
Not just propaganda, but yes some of the biggest problems in Europe (and the west), most notably the culture war, are certainly a Russian fabrication.
They are doing a very good job too
Badeer21@reddit
LMAOOOOOO the fucking shit the EU promotes daily and openly is "Russian propaganda." Commence estrogen injections immediately and never go on actual 4chan please.
isuxirl@reddit
No one said that, you absolute unit of a dunce.
Shadowpika655@reddit
No one said this
Don't see how this would make Americans any less susceptible to Russian propaganda
MikoMiky@reddit
The implication is that Vance only holds this opinion because of Russian propaganda, you regard.
Shadowpika655@reddit
So do you think Russian propaganda is a bad thing, or that it doesn't matter?
~~anyway, your other comment was still not really relevant to wut the other guy asked~~
MikoMiky@reddit
Keep malding, neo-marxist.
Shadowpika655@reddit
OK? I don't see how anything i said is anywhere close to Marxism, but anyway
MikoMiky@reddit
Wow the extreme leftist neo-marxist is deflecting
Shocker
Shadowpika655@reddit
Ngl I'm kinda curious to see how far this will go, so hit me :)
MikoMiky@reddit
I will not engage in your persecution fetish, sir.
visforvienetta@reddit
What a wild non-sequitur.
MikoMiky@reddit
What a wild fallacy fallacy
flinxsl@reddit
https://i.imgflip.com/9umwvd.jpg
xpacean@reddit
That’s the best part, he condescendingly tells Europe they have a problem, and the U.S. has the same problem and is many steps away from even starting to fix it.
Drunkasarous@reddit
Half of Americans can’t point out Russia on the map so yeah they def believe they are a cut above
underthepale@reddit
No, only that it takes more than a $500k TikTok campaign.
DoctorProfPatrick@reddit
I mean I'm not, but there's millions of retards with the power to vote
Key_Dish_good@reddit
No wonder lol
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Reddit bot must’ve accidentally wandered into 4chan 🤣
Just_Evening@reddit
peak reddit
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
MikoMiky@reddit
Cry harder, neo-marxist
Key_Dish_good@reddit
Cope and seethe
BornWithSideburns@reddit
Yes, democracy is fragile. That’s why you gotta protect it
MikoMiky@reddit
Protecting democracy by cancelling elections.
Sounds about right coming from an extreme leftist
BornWithSideburns@reddit
So pro russian parties dont get to power yes.
yehiko@reddit
Ottoblock@reddit
Maybe I’m the idiot who has never purchased anything fed to him in a targeted ad.
RoastMostToast@reddit
You’re the idiot that thinks advertising works that way, instead of slowly building recognition and biases in your brain.
yehiko@reddit
Everything is Targeted advertising. When you go to a shop and see something eye level rather than something on the lower shelf. Guess what? Targeted advertising.
ThirstyOutward@reddit
Get_the_Krown@reddit
No American had an opinion on tariffs prior to the election. They all decided if they were for or against them based on what their favorite politician said.
Tz33ntch@reddit
Pogo947947@reddit
The American political landscape fell to the ashes that it is through the exact same method, it just took more money becuase America is the most powerful country in the world. The oligarch bots won, we all lost, and that includes you.
Kotoy77@reddit
as if americans didnt vote trump despite the birds being blendered by windmills, migrants eating cats and dogs and that one poor fish who is not doing too well without water. people are and have always been regarded, and politicians highjacked their rotted brains to pour slop directly into their heads. yes, targeted social media advertisments funded my foreign countries can indeed change the results of elections.
horiami@reddit
Blaming everything on russia is a way to avoid acknowledging our own fuck ups
Georgescu should have been called out before the election
Unkn0wn-G0d@reddit
OP is a retard
PeterPorker52@reddit
those "international voters" voted more for George Simion lmao
NODENGINEER@reddit
Russkies seething that their multi-million operation in Romania failed lmao
Gwynnbeidd@reddit
To borrow words from a famous alleged coach fucker - If your democracy is fucked up by a few millions, it was not much of a democracy to begin with
shimapan_connoisseur@reddit
active in asmongold
who would have guessed
P41N90D@reddit
Says the guy speaking English in the Finland sub
shimapan_connoisseur@reddit
the finland sub is an english language sub?
Gwynnbeidd@reddit
I am sure there is a point lurking somewhere that you are attempting to make?
TheFabulousBat@reddit
Is this... new? Did we forget multinational corporations routinely spend millions to influence politics? Since when is money fucking up a democracy new lmao
P41N90D@reddit
Because it's bad and warrants scrutiny when others pick up the tools you made.
Kotoy77@reddit
>lmao your democracy can be changed by a few million
>damn, a few more millions in lobbying? here have all my votes
why are americans like this?
Gmknewday1@reddit
We can't escape the back and forth of our country's politics
It might be bad now with Trump
But the pendulum will just keep swinging back harder and harder whenever the other party joins in
I have the feeling that unless we get a aggressive moderate who's able to get the two sides to the table (even if it's by force)
Then it's gonna keep going down from here
After these 4 years of unrestricted Trump, we'll just keep getting people that are his level of rough
Gwynnbeidd@reddit
Not american, thank god for that
19Alexastias@reddit
But it wasn’t fucked up. They had electoral rules, he broke them, they found out and disqualified him. Isn’t that evidence that their democracy is working?
AdemsanArifi@reddit
I have one word for you: AIPAC.
scoots-mcgoot@reddit
That’s an acronym for like 7 words
yehiko@reddit
you're not allowed to say them all because then you'd be an anti dentite
philmarcracken@reddit
what the hell has this got to do with pasta
TheShivMaster@reddit
Yes that’s also valid. Both things are bad.
krafterinho@reddit
Pretty ironic from the coach fucker
derp0815@reddit
Might I introduce you to a nifty concept called colonialism?
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
\^\^
Free-Design-8329@reddit
Looks like the left wing goobohomo bots won instead
NODENGINEER@reddit
sorry, people would rather stay in geyvropa than join your russkij """""mir"""""
Lmayo_Box@reddit
Multi million? What millions, don't you know his campaign was made with """"zero""" euros? :)
JoJokaWasTaken@reddit
Unironically Trump caused this, has there even been a right wing victory in an important election since he won?
SlySychoGamer@reddit
This is why its so hilarious, USA literally dictates the world. Europoors refuse to accept this.
ArtemisJolt@reddit
Nah we realized it and decided we don't want that to happen anymore, which is why the EU and Canada are moving away from an American centric world.
The economic and national security issues that will cusse for the US will be interesting
Gmknewday1@reddit
Nice
But I'd like it if Europe chose to stand behind Ukraine even without the US's influence
Until they do that, I don't care
ArtemisJolt@reddit
What? The EU has given more aid to Ukraine than the US
Gmknewday1@reddit
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-wont-deploy-troops-ukraine-without-us-support-says-minister-luke-pollard/
This shit right here
Ukraine needs people who are willing to get their armies together if it means pushing Russia back and humbling Putin's ass
Europe has several militaries ready to go, its time they used them if they really care about helping stop Putin's attempts at expansion
ArtemisJolt@reddit
So you're mad that Europeans would like American help, but not mad that Americans refuse to help?
Gmknewday1@reddit
I am honestly mixed
I do think we should support them still, especially because I like seeing Putin get humbled by the Unbreakable spirit of the Ukrainine people not to let his ass win, and I would rather they stay free
But I also believe that the USA being in every fucking pie has led to more harm then good (just look at the middle east)
We can't keep being the world police officer and can't keep being connected to everything
Especially cause the fact we are in so many pies is one of the many reasons people want America to die, because they see us as "imperialists"
s00pafly@reddit
> shit on street
people walk around it
> hahaa I am dictating flow of human traffic.
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
Least obvious coping and seething
Eonir@reddit
This is slowly changing in favor of China, who is reaping the benefits of what the US sowed.
snrup1@reddit
Have you checked on China lately?
Legend13CNS@reddit
Countries and megacorps only have China as an ally of convenience. Both sides only trust the other party as far as they can throw them, but the checks clear so they keep it going. For players with proper long term plans, it's just a bump in the road before things will snap back to normal once Trump is either out of office or Republicans lose their majorities.
NissinSeafoodCup@reddit
Jack Ma used to be everywhere, but after “a talk” with the party, you can’t even find his shadow on the news. People that think foreign companies will rush happily into Chinese arms after seeing what they did to their own tier-1 citizen are delusional.
CroatInAKilt@reddit
That Europoors insult is gonna be really ironic in a few years if you don't remove the chimpanzee from the oval office
SlySychoGamer@reddit
He naturally leaves in a few years you ignorant tart.
Zarathustra124@reddit
Europe hasn't had a right wing in a long time, you can vote left or left but slower. If America continues to prosper through his term, and the nations that reactively swung left continue to decline, it may wake people up and see a new party created.
Acceptable-Fill-3361@reddit
America doesn’t have a right wing either lmao
Eonir@reddit
Both parties in the US are right wing by European standards. Sanders would be centre right.
Acceptable-Fill-3361@reddit
Yeah by european standards any real right winger will tell you they are both left wing
Papa-pumpking@reddit
You morons consider Democrats left wing to the point is synonymous with Socialist.You are the last person that should talk about political parties.
Papa-pumpking@reddit
Isn't Sa dees a socialist Democrat or Social Democrat at least.That is at least center left.
Papa-pumpking@reddit
Liberals are center not left wing.We are not regarded like you calling everyone left of Bush a commie.
Tz33ntch@reddit
snizarsnarfsnarf@reddit
>tries to comment on a political system he has never once read about or researched >says there is two options in elections in European countries because only frame of reference is US 2 party system
>goes on X and tweets how he owned some eurolibs today sunglasses emoji
Special-Remove-3294@reddit
Every single country in Europe is right wing.
There has not been a left wing government in Europe wince the USSR collapsed in 1991. All European nations have had some form of capitalist(and therefore not left wing) government since then.
karlpoppins@reddit
What are you smoking? Europe is full of neo-fascist and nationalist parties. The Overton window ranges from actual communism to actual fascism, with libertarianism, socdem, and evening in between. European parliaments are incredibly diverse, unlike the ideologically narrow American political scene.
SINGULARITY1312@reddit
delusional lol
Zarathustra124@reddit
Hopeful.
een57@reddit
The Netherlands
23_Serial_Killers@reddit
the Australian right-wingers got annihilated early this month so hard their coalition split up yesterday for the first time since the 80s, the election itself was their worst result since their modern incarnation was first created in the 40s. It’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.
Just_Evening@reddit
I think a lot of this is because many right-wing parties are trying to be trump-like without being trump. I'm from Canada, our conservative candidate Poilievre lost, I think, because he had no platform besides "other guy bad". Other guy was indeed bad so Poilievre was going to win, until someone with an actual platform showed up to run against him.
retsoPtiH@reddit
literally the loser in RO's election wears a bootleg MAGA hat, played YMCA waiting for the polls and waved a USA flag
and people vote for this shit??
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
The Reform party did well in UK local elections, but this is because the Conservative vote collapsed basically. And it's just a local election after all, it doesn't decide anything important internationally.
ccznen@reddit
It scared Kier Starmer enough that he changed his position on mass immigration.
donaldcrunk@reddit
Nobody votes in local elections other than the retired
whatducksm8@reddit
I see someone hasn’t been going to the polls.
GemeenteEnschede@reddit
The Far Right in Portugal made significant gains last weekend in their parliamentary elections, coming just a few thousands votes short of 2nd place and being a potential coalition party for the Centre Right party that came in first.
Also Right-wing and Far Right candidates got a majority of the vote in the first round of the Polish presidential elections.
ursoyjak@reddit
Implying any of these elections in irrelevant countries are important is hilarious
ChandlerZOprich@reddit
Wtf I love Trump now
OliverMonster1@reddit
They even admit there was no legitimate evidence of Russian interference.
https://www.bbc.com/articles/cqx41x3gn5zo
They tried this in 2016 with bad orange man, then concluded that any potential Russian interference was extremely limited and didnt actually impact the election in any meaningful way. Romania saw someone that wasn't pro illegal immigration and they stopped it. Then they ran the bullshit smear campaign long enough to get the right guy in and now we're left with "we'll, just because there wasnt any proof doesnt mean it didnt happen."
Yvan961@reddit
Elections or Voting is an illusion, they already chose who to install in every country as judges in High Courts, Presidents and PMs and most of MPs
that_one_retard_2@reddit
God, how i wish romania had remained obscure and off the radar on the world stage. Now I have to see internet opiniologists everywhere spewing their obviously politically charged "vibe-based" takes on the politics of a foreign country they barely know anything about (except for one youtube video from their favorite echo-chamber guru, 2 headlines, and maybe 3 tweets). These are the same people who couldn’t point to romania on a map a few years ago - and likely still can’t
Istencsaszar@reddit
I had similar feelings as a Hungarian when for some reason half the world started thinking that Orban is based
that_one_retard_2@reddit
If these dumbasses knew even half the shit I know about romanian politics, they would realize how fucking stupid their armchair opinions and conspiracies are. These people they're protecting aren't even conservatives in the normal sense of the word, they're some toe-sucking populist clowns masquerading as conservatives and spiritual gurus. They say that fucking Macron, Ursula or Soros personally personally rigged election, parroting the same braindead shit that Simion is pushing, with no idea about the Romanian electoral process, about the electoral protocols, about such things as voting station observers, the NGOs (local and intl), Parties and Institutions that are all coordinating to survey the results and monitor the vote count. This was probably the fairest and most rigid romanian election since 89 logistically, because a record number of volunteers signed up to monitor the voting and counting. I know this shit because I was one of them.
And if one of these regards is now gonna comment that I’m paid by Soros or some shit, I’m gonna lose it
Istencsaszar@reddit
These idiotic takes are so clearly exactly the same in every Eastern EU country, you would have to be clinically braindead to not realize that these are just the flavor of the month villain personally chosen in the Kremlin.
It's also extremely obvious and pathetic that Kremlin candidates never go out to talk to any other candidate. Orban is notorious for this, so is Putin, and iirc Simion also did this now. These absolute cowards are then somehow considered brave and strong by the pro Russian media outlets.
Commence_forth_again@reddit
It's the classic "oh he's pro-russia, so hecking based and trad!!!"
19Alexastias@reddit
It’s just Americans. I still get the occasional one lecturing me about how Australia sucks because we apparently forcibly imprisoned thousands of people during covid and we have no freedom because voting is mandatory.
BasedBalkaner@reddit
As a Romanian I'm quite happy, we've never been a real democracy but people outside the country didn't know that, now everyone can see us what we really are, which is a failed state ran by mafia
krafterinho@reddit
Exactly, it's frustrating seeing all these idiots parrot their bullshit opinion formed by reading a few headlines and some reddit comments at best regarding a situation they know nothing about, but that's social media for you
Kotoy77@reddit
i swear these regards are ragebaiting. youd have to tie them to a chair and force them to watch 2 hours of georgescu speeches. if they dont think he is schiziphrenic after that then perhaps they are schizophrenic as well
Mexer@reddit
Right wingers when election tampering and undermining constitutional order with 25,000+ fake accounts to flood TikTok, 85,000 attempts on election systems via Telegram, along with the blatant failure to report all of his foreign campaign funding: "muhh democracy!"
Seethe and shit your pants.
Badeer21@reddit
Redditor since 2010, EU profile pic, posts regularly on worldnews. Fuck me this sub is so dead lmao.
Istencsaszar@reddit
as if it isn't the same as an American having the US flag. Fuck off
Badeer21@reddit
Not remotely the same given the wider context of the guy's profile you fucking gypsy.
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
they all have discords where links to posts like this are shared so they can brigade.
19Alexastias@reddit
I’ve been commenting in this sub for years and I think you’re a regard.
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
lol
19Alexastias@reddit
As if this is your only reddit account lmao
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
BoloRoll@reddit
Don’t they have real hobbies? I mean there is not a lot you can do on the shitter during your 9-5 but given 5 minutes I like to watch fashion videos and fishing and gun stuff rather than…brigade Reddit threads?
GreyFornMent@reddit
AGP gooners, wadda ya think
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
Mostly terminally online types that find meaning and self esteem in fighting for their beliefs in online convos.
Lots are on welfare or disability.
When you meet people like this in person, you understand. It's very sad.
WernerWindig@reddit
Do you think this sub is a maga-safespace or what?
Cry_Wolff@reddit
You're a great example why we haven't bombarded Balkans enough.
Mexer@reddit
Lmaoo have my updoots kind stranger xDD
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
>constitutional order
>romania
Kotoy77@reddit
? romania is a constitutional democracy. whats your point?
Shadowpika655@reddit
you do know Romania has a constitution...right?
Traditional_Rice_528@reddit
So does North Korea
Shadowpika655@reddit
And so they'd also have a "constitutional order"
CroatInAKilt@reddit
Americans when they realize they didn't invent Constitution 😵
Special-Remove-3294@reddit
Glorious Romania's constitution is the greatest in the world and mogs your shithole as is rightful for the true heir of Rome.
yallmad4@reddit
Based /f/ user
Experience_Material@reddit
And then Reddit swarms with people and especially Hungarians saying that Hungarians saved Romania as if they don’t support the most nationalistic party in their country but the clear line here says that the other one was a bad candidate for Romania basically because it’s not their country but it has Hungarians in it. Some people can really be hypocritical at times.
Istencsaszar@reddit
Orban actually endorsed Simion because they're both swinging on Putins cock, even though Simion literally loathes Hungarians in Romania. Orban only cares about them when it's time to buy their votes to cheat in the elections
Experience_Material@reddit
I just see Hungarians as the Arabs of Europe
awesomemanswag@reddit
Lol good
Radurty@reddit
Election cancelling was really cringe but unironically it doesn't look like results were faked this time. It's just that simion started massively trolling and doing every action he possibly could to lose. won't get into much detail here, but for example one of the politicians that got 15% would have given those votes to him (which would be enough to win), but his party started shit talking that guy so he obviously didnt do it, stuff like that and not showing up to debates is why he lost.
FapMcDab@reddit
If the russians are denying something, then you can be sure it has happened: https://www.digi24.ro/stiri/externe/zaharova-a-lansat-critici-acide-la-adresa-romaniei-dupa-ce-mae-a-denuntat-interferente-rusesti-sa-nu-numiti-asta-alegeri-3246461
Radurty@reddit
sure man, russia is interfering in every single democracy in the planet, they cant interfere in moldova's elections, they can't win in ukraine, but they are the octopus with 20 hands puppeteering the entire world. Believeable.
Commence_forth_again@reddit
Have you seen how much they spend yearly on propaganda? Moldova, for example, it took 30 years for the population to wake up and go "hmmm, we have russian tanks at our border and our neighbor just got invaded, maybe Russia isn't the good guy after all?" Obviously, there are still people who gladly eat up any sort of Russian disinformation, but a majority of the younger population, even old people, have finally "woken up"
Tz33ntch@reddit
They bought the US, so yeah, might as well try in smaller countries
BasedestEmperor@reddit
they win some they lose some
isuxirl@reddit
Russia is a really large oil field with a kleptocracy sitting on top of it. They have so little to offer the world other than oil, belligerence and misinformation.
They can't even properly maintain their reputation as a powerful military. Maybe they should hint at launching nukes again for the 1,500th time in 3 years. I'm sure Ukraine will totally roll over for them this time.
I can't wait until the Chinese effs Russia over and reclaims pieces of Siberia.
MerlinCarone@reddit
Reddit is the most concentrated pool of Dunning-Kruger effect on the planet.
isuxirl@reddit
Nah, Number 1 is Russia, followed by your mom at number 2, and then Reddit.
MerlinCarone@reddit
Russia was a world power hundreds of years before you were born, and it will remain one long after you’re dead and forgotten. You can waste as much of your life as you want spreading diarrhea on internet message boards. It will not have the slightest effect on this.
isuxirl@reddit
Hahahahahaha. Russia wishes. The whole world thought Russia had the 2nd most formidable army in the world. Now they're only the 2nd most formidable army in Russia.
krafterinho@reddit
They pretty obviously tried, not succeeding doesn't mean otherwise
isuxirl@reddit
Yes. Russians are really good at misinformation. Have been since the cold war. It's cheap and asymmetrical, unlike invading Ukraine which is expensive in terms money and lives.
So quite believable, unless you're a total regard.
FapMcDab@reddit
they're trying, but luckily for us, they're way too fucking stupid and incompetent
Fiercepaws@reddit
Yeah, he shat the bed lmao. Not being present at any debates besides the first one that you initiated and got shat on, fleeing country during said debates and insulting other country leaders doesn't look good during elections lol
horiami@reddit
Avoiding debates was good cause he would have gotten beaten by a mild mannered manlet matematicianand that would make him look bad
But the other stuff he did unironically made me belive in the theory that he got cold feet
Fiercepaws@reddit
How about being a good enough candidate and proving it, hmm?
horiami@reddit
If he was a good candidate he would have had no reason to skip the debates
He has almost no experience outside of being a somewhat charismatic loudmouthed braggart
pokemon_fucker_2137@reddit
Eurofa#s calling everyone a russian bot when they dont agree with them. Russia is nobodys friend but neither is the eu. It is a german, french and j€wish ruled empire. They are now trying to remove poland's vote and completely take over when they eventually do. The eu was a good idea when it stayed purely about free trade and ecomomical aspects. Now it is a leftist shitfest that will restrain any opposition and undermine the independence of countries they deem inferior.
HappyCatPlays@reddit
Holy fucking shit can yall non-romanian retards shut the fuck up about our elections? You all have absolutely no fucking idea what is happening in this country and you're shilling here about some bullshit "democracy" like shut your trap already. We get it. You want the Iron Curtain back, and Eastern Europe should suffer because we are "inferior" to the "civilised" West
OkResponsibility7210@reddit
Can I get a crumb of context
AstroVan94@reddit
HEY THERE WHI GIVES A DUCK ABLUT DUMBFUXKASTAN. DONT YOU KNOW AMERICA HAS ELECTRD THE GREATEST LEADER TO EVERY WALK ON GODS GREEN EARTH?!
Lt-Derek@reddit
Big IF true
SigmaBattalion@reddit
Holy shit. The amount of bots in here is actually insane. Lmao
Skystunt@reddit
i know, so many f*ggots side with the non democratic so called pro eu r*tard that "won" the third presidential election and call it a democracy for whatever reason
like bro, how is romania still considered a democracy after all the mental gymnastics they need to do to say the dude who won the presidental election for on the THIRD fucking time is the ACTUAL democratic president, the rest were just bots and far right propagandists
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suffering_addict@reddit
So, the Romanian voting system for president has 2 rounds of voting. The first round is with all candidates, and the second round is with the top two guys from the first round.
Now, onto the first one. Basically, one of the winners from the first election first round declared far less funds on his campaigning than what he actually spent, which is illegal. Also, said funds came from Russia, which makes it even worse.
Then the second election came around, one guy won the first round and a bunch of non voters saw it and were like "oh shit we can't have that". Almost 20% more people went out to vote on the second round compared to the first (53.21% of the eligible population voted in the first round compared to 64.72% in the second round).
Also, the gut who won the first round kept shooting himself in the foot over the last two weeks, which made some of his supporters switch sides.
GreyFornMent@reddit
East Germany was oficially called "German Democratic Republic"
It's just a word bro, nothing has changed, jews are still in control
MentokTehMindTaker@reddit
they dont care about being right.
they only care about winning. makes you think.
CroatInAKilt@reddit
The guy broke election law, fuck are they supposed to do, let him go on?
SunderedValley@reddit
I'm honestly seeing it as an admission of guilt and that from here on out every tool is on the table.
lesseva96@reddit
Cope and seethe. Maybe if your Russian handlers were a little more careful with how they try to buy elections, your favorite Putin bootlicker would have won.
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Appropriate_Ad4818@reddit
The French CIA (DGSE) had to get involved to "help" Romanian Macron win, because even after cancelling the elections and running propaganda non stop, he was still set to lose the elections in the second round.
Kind of impressive if you ask me. Sets the tone for how radical zoomers are becoming, how scared the ruling class is, and how fake democracy is.
NetflixWaffle@reddit
Burgers trying to talk about the Romanian electoral system while they can’t even point to it on the map.
TheMoonandTheThief@reddit
Oh vey! Congratulations are in order! Now time for some refugees
Low-Stranger-3473@reddit
I hate Russia and their election interference but this comment section is the most cringe Reddit brained thing I've seen in a while. I'm pretty sure this sub has been brigaded by individuals running on pure soy
WernerWindig@reddit
according to the comments every single post in this sub is the most reddit thing ever and brigaded by the democrats.
Plenty-Wonder6092@reddit
Managed Democracy!
Alpharius_Omegon_30K@reddit
The funniest thing is the Hungarian majority area help them to win as a revenge for taking Transylvania
Mehzaaa@reddit
ad81_@reddit
Lasconi and Dan are leftoids? You’re delusional lmfao
Tz33ntch@reddit
If your candidate isn't supported by Dugin on twitter you're a leftist
Kotoy77@reddit
the american mind cannot comprehend nuanced politics on a spectrum, it can only comprehend hard left or hard right
krafterinho@reddit
Calling those candidates leftoids just shows you have no clue what you're talking about lmao
freememes69420@reddit
believing things went down any differently from this description is a sign of room temperature iq
krafterinho@reddit
A sign of a room temperature IQ is actually assuming everything you personally believe simply has to be a fact and thinking you're more informed over literal citizens of said country because you read a few headlines and reddit comments
PopeLeoXIVOfficial@reddit
30k? Try 86. They couldn't ask for a recount if they tried at this difference.
TeTeOtaku@reddit
One things to add:
The guy who won is more of a centrist then leftoid, like we have no left at all but the most "left leaning" candidate that won is socially conservative in things like lgbt/weed etc.
isuxirl@reddit
Russians up to their usual tricks. Cry harden, Putin.
LexLuthorFan76@reddit
Why has this comments section been taken over by Redditors
insaneHoshi@reddit
Top mind here
that_one_retard_2@reddit
"oh no the echo chamber is not echo chambering"
Bibibis@reddit
This but non-ironically. Curious how it's only not echo chambering in this thread. Almost as if...
Aardvark_Man@reddit
Because some of us don't usually both visiting the comments when the post is someone sharing their own post from 4chan, where the only joke is just a big standard racist comment, like half the posts here are these days.
KrakelOkkult@reddit
It started a couple of weeks before the US election. It's a shame.
LogHalley@reddit
redditors are colonizers by nature. they invade, infiltrate staff, then impose their rule.
these people also aren't original redditors. they're the users from tumblr. they left their original website and then started infiltrating staff all over the internet, imposing their POV and rules.
makes you think, doesn't it?
itsmechaboi@reddit
Real. This thread is so fucking weird.
Lost_Extreme_3897@reddit
Redditors are fucking trash, if they aren't using a SLAVE CUCKRAINI pfp they are screaming RUSSIAN BAD!
NPC's are really annoying.
Lower_Preparation_83@reddit
Is this your first time witnessing bots brigading?
this happens to literally every post that is not complaint with current things redditards support, gladly we're on 4chan sub and they supposed to drown after some time.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit (OP)
Wecome to Reddit.
Ancient0wl@reddit
I choose to be mad about this because the Russian propaganda accounts and bot farms are telling me I should be mad about this.
retsoPtiH@reddit
anon when he realizes that if you cancel all votes coming from outside Ro, the pro-european candidate still won: 🥴
Karmamyfuckingass@reddit
Keep on crying
rookie0life@reddit
‡(en als
JesusLovesMeHard@reddit
democracy only works when it lets intelligent people do what they want
kaydenb3@reddit
Comments are Brigaded
ruggersyah@reddit
Managed democracy
Spybot64@reddit
Cope and seethe russian cocksucker. Your shit tier propaganda doesn't even work in backwater countries like romania. You have ZERO chance to influence any other first world country. Your motherland will become a nuclear wasteland in your lifetime and we'll get to watch. Not that it will influence your living standards too much.
Rob_Croissant@reddit
i don't know who to trust anymore. Just bring back Vlad the Impaler
Economy-Mortgage-455@reddit
Internation voters voted for Simian though.
Special-Remove-3294@reddit
Rightoids seething that they lost. Sadly the guy who won is also a rightoid but he ain't the braindead type of roghtoid so it is alright.
Baly999@reddit
"I'm going to spew bullshit I know nothing about, but in greentext and with overwhelming sarcasm". I hate the dutch with utmost passion
Estephenson521@reddit
That’s the power of managed democracy
slavichou@reddit
Cope harder, maybe it’ll change this time.
FBI_psyop@reddit
Me calling everyone bots when there is the slightest bit of dissent in the mostly left wing social media: ( people who don't agree with me don't exist)
SuperCiuppa_dos@reddit
The international voters voted for the other guy though, you got something wrong in your misinformation…
Tararais1@reddit
Literally, our shepherding elites dont care what people vote for if it goes against their agenda
RoadEmpty@reddit
Sa il luati de pula pe Nicusor
Metal04Frost@reddit
Classic Eurocuck.
SunderedValley@reddit
Wao.
SaltyHater@reddit
Nice try Vova, next time make sure that your candidate can better hide millions of euro in undeclared donations
VertigoFall@reddit
Wahh Wahh