Berlin, Paris overcome rift over nuclear energy, French official says
Posted by F0urLeafCl0ver@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 11 comments
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whacco@reddit
German opposition to other countries building nuclear was petty and ideological and made little pragmatic sense. Even if someone thinks it's expensive and unsafe it's not Germany who has to suffer from it. They're not the one's paying for the investment. They're not the ones handling the nuclear waste or risking a nuclear accident. They are however the ones who benefit from imports during dunkelflaute.
AdelaiNiskaBoo@reddit
So its that france (/some other countries) can subsidies his/their nuclear power with eu money. That is the only point that is important. There is no energy provider in germany that is intrested in nuclear power.
It will be also less money for renewables projects if nuclear projects get money from the same fond.
My problem is that its from the same fond. If they want to give money it should come from an extra fond.
abdallha-smith@reddit
Apologise and move on, you were wrong.
Rich_String4737@reddit
No it will just scrap antinuclear law et put it in an equal footing with renouvelable, as it should always as been
abdallha-smith@reddit
Especially by burning coal and polluting neighbouring countries
breadgluvs@reddit
The Germans have been so obsessed with self-sabotage lately they started sabotaging other countries, amazing.
autoreaction@reddit
Rich coming from an american haha.
VintageGriffin@reddit
Absolutely nobody could have seen that coming /s.
It only took them a couple of nationwide scale power blackouts, like the one recently in Portugal/Spain, to realize that while renewable energy is great, the grid needs both stable baseline and on demand maneuverable power generation - of which most renewables are neither; and aren't stable or reliable to boot; to support its integrity during peak usage timeframes.
The sun ain't shining when all people come home from work and turn on all of their household and kitchen appliances. It also ain't doing anything when they plug in all of their electric vehicles at night, or when they wake up to go to work in the morning. Sure there is also wind, but that ain't always blowing and it's not all that predictable. And very few countries are blessed with enough hydropower.
There's no getting more baseline than nuclear. It's either that or invest in gigantic energy storage facilities, but Europe isn't all that friendly with the country that produces the batteries for them.
fouriels@reddit
Stopped reading. The blackout has nothing to do with the energy source - in fact, the fault originated near the Almaraz NPP. Reddit nukecels would do better to not blame absolutely everything grid-related on 'not enough nuclear'.
croquetas_y_jamon@reddit
Well, leaving Spain aside, what is said is pretty logical to me. Renewables are nice and makes it easier for self-appreciation but it is not reliable enough as of today.
VintageGriffin@reddit
Why did the wind/solar inverters disconnect from the grid, if not for the grid dipping below the critical threshold frequency due to not having enough baseline generation? The wind and solar didn't go anywhere at that point, inverters just disconnected due to power condition falling out of their normal operating parameters.
Doesn't matter whether it's nuclear, gas or coal - just about every MW of renewable energy needs to be backed up by that same MW of baseline generation or storage, otherwise the grid becomes incredibly fragile to power faults that otherwise could have been considered minor. It needs the reliable capacity to absorb and mitigate power fluctuations.