MSI brings AMD-based AMD gaming handheld, updated mid-range gaming laptops to Computex

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lifestealsuck@reddit

Hoping for rdna4 fsr 360p upscaled 1080p handheld. Soon...

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Washington_Fitz@reddit

RDNA 4 isn’t coming to mobile APUs for years!

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lifestealsuck@reddit

3 years post 2020 was like 1 years pre 2020 anyway. SOON™

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Strazdas1@reddit

the pandemic did not just delay software developement, it delayed hardware developement too.

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Vb_33@reddit

Clearly we would have been on Zen 7 and RDNA6 (UDNA2) by now had it not been for that meddling pandemic.

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Strazdas1@reddit

I think everyone would be 1 gen ahead if not for pandemic, and same for software developement too where padnemic usually dragged it up an extra 1-2 years.

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DktheDarkKnight@reddit

That's interesting. Have they patched up? It looked like MSI was slowly abandoning AMD.

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SirActionhaHAA@reddit

They lost money on the 1st claw, so much that it spooked them.

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kronpas@reddit

Sony wont make a pc handheld.

Microsoft hardware sales have never been their focus.

Valve has Steam Deck and from the look of it it wont compete with other handhelds.

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imaginary_num6er@reddit

More like they lost money on Intel, period

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CrashedMyCommodore@reddit

Probably more than what Intel's MDF can make up for.

MSI seemed absolutely hellbent on dick riding Intel, even to the detriment of the company.

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From-UoM@reddit

They still have CPUs for laptops. And AMD motherboard .

Its amd dgpus they have completely abandoned.

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DktheDarkKnight@reddit

I mean they are the first OEM to go all in on Intel handheld even when Intel didn't have a good alternative for AMD's APU's at the time.

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From-UoM@reddit

More likely intel won't have a Lunar Lake successor. They confirmed it was a one off.

Meaning its not possible to make a future intel handled for now

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heylistenman@reddit

You couldn’t be more wrong. Panther Lake has a 12 Xe3-core version, which will most likely outperform Lunar Lakes 8 Xe2 cores even without on-package memory. Intel is all-in on Arc iGPUs.

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From-UoM@reddit

Panther lake isn't put till like 2026.

So for the whole of 2025 they have nothing.

And that won't be like lunar lake successor with ram on the substrate.

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heylistenman@reddit

The Lunar Lake Claw wasn’t available until Q1 2025, so there will be roughly be a year between version. That’s a normal release cadence. What did you want, a new release every quarter?

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From-UoM@reddit

Yes, but Lunar Lake devices it's self came out in Sept 2024. Msi just launched the claw later.

So add around 5 months more time for RnD, manufacturing, QA and distribution, and a panther lake claw at earliest is around mid 2026.

Z2 chips are strix point chips (Rzyen AI 300). They have had months to work on these for the claw amd version.

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INITMalcanis@reddit

One can hardly blame them - AMD don't seem to care that much either.

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Johnny_Oro@reddit

Looks like the people who said MSI abandoned AMD and accused Intel of all sorts of anti-competitive things are wrong.

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joe1134206@reddit

Whatcha got there?

Intel standing next to a mountain of evidence of anticompetitive behavior spanning decades: a swirlie

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Sadukar09@reddit

You couldn't live with your own failure MSI, where did that bring you? Back to me.

-AMD

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Strazdas1@reddit

MSI never left AMD though? The only product they stopped doing is Radeon GPUs.

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Sadukar09@reddit

Can't make decent handheld if it requires a Radeon iGPU lol.

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Strazdas1@reddit

Probably not. AMD does not make power supply units as far as i remmeber.

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INITMalcanis@reddit

Hardly sounds likely. Whoever heard of such a thing?

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jenesuispasbavard@reddit

Any reviews of the Z2 Extreme vs the Z1 Extreme yet?

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RedTuesdayMusic@reddit

Finally realizing the error of their ways, I see...

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