If the US could submit an American artist to a contest like Eurovision, who would the representative be?

Lady Gaga would probably do very mediocre. A lot of Americans seem to forget the UK as a disproportionate amount of the worlds most famous and successful artists. Yet the UK loves to find new ways of getting 0 points in Eurovision.

Eurovision is a vibe and a bit of a popularity and political contest to boot. It isn't about talent and it isn't about how good a song really is per se. Almost all the music you hear in Eurovision is music made for the vibe of Eurovision and wouldn't really work outside of the competition. Also, there is often an element of cultural heritage on display.

Sending Lady Gaga and performing something in the style of what she is known for would imply you don't understand the concept and you'll get nearly zero votes. Which would be embarrassing for a globally famous artist. Unless Lady Gaga really gets the MO... Then you'd probably see her do something completely different to anything you actually know her for.

Basically, you have 3 minutes to leave an impression on hundreds of millions of live viewers from a wide range of demographics and even massively different cultures and give them a reason to go out the way and vote for you. Americans can't vote for the themselves, so they have to guess what will make everyone else vote. Send a boy band dressed as cowboys doing a Lady Gaga inspired song or choreography whilst singing (or rapping?) about BBQ with Ranch sauce. That'll do better.

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cherrycokeicee@reddit

I think you're really underestimating the range of Lady Gaga. beyond being the perfect representation of modern American pop music, she's also a jazz performer who performed with Tony Bennett, and has a pop ballad charting right now with Bruno Mars that gives classic Americans vibes (https://youtu.be/kPa7bsKwL-c?si=TA4cgKHIJjbN_HkZ). her new album has all sorts of iconic American references, like her MJ inspired song "Shadow of a Man." Gaga can absolutely deliver vocals, dancing, instrumentals, and a bit of camp/theme. I feel like this would be right up her alley.

I could see an argument for rap, so maybe someone like Kendrick or Megan Thee Stallion could deliver live? Kendrick would definitely be political, which sounds on-theme. check out his Superbowl performance, if you haven't seen it.

or is it really supposed to be a satirical performance about stereotypes associated with your country? bc singing about "ranch sauce" sounds ridiculously stupid. surely you'd expect much better from the American music scene.

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snaynay@reddit

That's the point. Culturally, I don't think you have a proper US analogy to compare it to. Gaga might get some public support from her popularity, but the US itself would be the butt of the political (non-)vote just by sending her. Not because she isn't very talented, but because of what she represents, specifically in attitude. Now if Lady Gaga was a songwriter and worked on all the production, assuming she's really understands the vibe, that'd probably work in the US's favour.

It doesn't have to be satirical. It can be deadly serious if you want, but that's a harder game to play. Adding cultural markers in the presentation or the music itself is very common. Again, doesn't need to, but you have to have an angle that appeases both the judges and the massively different cultures of all the competing countries. The UK has nearly 70M people and the San Marino microstate has like 33K people, but they are equal in the voting booth. What do we know about popular music in Moldova? Just as important as Germany. Then if the US is getting ripped in the news again with topics like EU tariffs and bailing on the war in Ukraine, that will just kill the US votes in many countries, and you'll see the political side no matter how good the performance was.

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cherrycokeicee@reddit

Not because she isn't very talented, but because of what she represents, specifically in attitude.

I have no idea what you mean by this. what attitude does she represent?

Now if Lady Gaga was a songwriter and worked on all the production, assuming she's really understands the vibe, that'd probably work in the US's favour.

she is a songwriter. she writes songs for herself and other artists. she would be the main creative mind behind the performance, as she is with all her other work.

I don't mean this as a criticism of you at all, but if Europeans are really this unaware of Gaga's creativity and genre-bending tendencies, maybe sending her to do a jazz or country inspired song would go over well? a fun surprise with a nod to American music history.

re: politics, obviously some will have their minds made up, but doesn't it seem like the best way to try to combat that is by sending artists who are vocally against the current admin, personally and in their music, like all the ones I listed? Kendrick, especially. https://youtu.be/KDorKy-13ak?si=QLAyfHLZWN0Awjoj

I'm not saying these performances would for sure win. like you said, the UK has so much musical talent and isn't successful at the competition. but it would feel disrespectful to send some joke act and not deliver a full-on American-sized performance.

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snaynay@reddit

1) She represents commercialism and a "try hard" attitude. Less a celebration of music and more a celebration of status. It's the embodiment of just missing the point and not reading the room. The entirely wrong attitude. I think this year's winner appeared on The Voice UK and is/was a uni student in Vienna, Austria. The Eurovision entry is his first public released song. Lady Gaga, international superstar for what nearly two decades, or some Gen Z performing arts student? It's quite a contrast.

2) As in a Eurovision-song songwriter. She can write and produce the entry and be a positive vibe, sit in the USA's booth and interact with the show, even do a guest appearance and perform a song in the intermission before votes are announced, but performing the US's entry would be a negative vibe.

3) The politics is not about what the artist stands for. It's just a bit of a riff on current affairs. If you look carefully at the results this year, Israel nearly won, but the public vote pushed Austria to the top at the very end of the announcements. Might just be a crazy coincidence... but I wouldn't underestimate the political opinions brewing in those votes.

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cherrycokeicee@reddit

She represents commercialism and a "try hard" attitude. Less a celebration of music and more a celebration of status.

you think Lady Gaga in particular embodies these attitudes? or you think any popular artist would?

in the US, Lady Gaga represents a very high level of artistry, fashion, and musical talent. she is also a pro-LGBT pioneer in American pop music. she's not a vapid social climber. just because she's popular, it doesn't mean she's primarily focused on "commercialism." that seems like an odd characterization. (if she was focused on celebrating her status over her artistry, she would have attended the Met Gala instead of performing a free show for 2 million Brazilians)

If it's not clear from my comments, I don't really know anything about Eurovision other than it's a very popular international music competition. I've never seen the show. is it not a thing for big music stars to participate? it's more of a student thing?

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snaynay@reddit

Any "superstar" artist. I have nothing against Lady Gaga. In fact, I commend her for subtly getting radios all over the world to play the uncensored lyrics "Po-po-po-poker face, fu-fu-f*ck her face". Genuis.

The commercialisation is the attitude. Not inherently from Lady Gaga, but from the broadcaster who gets to choose who to put through choosing/allowing her.

Celebrities can perform but it's down to the attitude. Perhaps more Tiktok/Instagram famous, people who are making a name for themselves do well. Sometimes you get nationally famous celebrities, but no-names to the outside world.

Basically, Eurovision is various broadcasters putting forward an entry. How they chose the entry is up to them. The political ramifications, the rules around releasing the song commercially, and the fact it's basically just a trophy disincentives people who are too big. Again would be embarrassing for Lady Gaga to get 0 points against no-names simply because Trump said some stupid shit that week; that's how volatile it is. Realistically, it can only damage her career at that point. There is very, very little to gain... even if she happened to win.

So they send the smaller, more risky, more artistically unique and unheard talents of people who want to kickstart their careers perhaps with an opportunity to play on the world stage. It kickstarted many careers, most notably ABBA and Celine Dion.

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cherrycokeicee@reddit

Sometimes you get nationally famous celebrities, but no-names to the outside world.

this is probably also the case in the UK, but this is hard for American musicians. other than country artists, anyone nationally popular in the US is usually already at least somewhat known worldwide. and sometimes it even happens the other way around bc our market is so saturated and competitive.

(a country artist might actually be a good choice, but I don't think country music fans would ever watch Eurovision. it would be fans of pop music)

Again would be embarrassing for Lady Gaga to get 0 points against no-names simply because Trump said some stupid shit that week; that's how volatile it is.

is it weird that I don't think it would actually be embarrassing for her? Americans don't really know anything about Eurovision at all. if you want to watch Eurovision in the US, I think you have to stream it on Peacock (NBC), and I've never seen it advertised for on tv or online.

it's hard to imagine what it would be like if the US started participating. I'm sure it would be broadcast on a major network and promoted more, but Americans would be starting from literally zero. at best, you will find Americans who know that Abba is from Eurovision, or know some of the memes (sax man). but almost no one here knows how the competition works. I think people would just tune in to see the performances and then dip. if the results have literally nothing to do with music, performance, or Lady Gaga's values and message as an artist, I fail to see how that would reflect on her at all. it seems like an incredibly negative part of the show that politics can affect an artist bravely asserting outwardly oppositional views of their country's federal government.

So they send the smaller, more risky, more artistically unique and unheard talents of people who want to kickstart their careers perhaps with an opportunity to play on the world stage.

does any country turn this into their own competition? could we repurpose the long suffering competition show American Idol (which peaked in the first season by producing Kelly Clarkson & is somehow still on air) and send the winner to Eurovision? that could be fun, and it could get some Americans interested in & aware of Eurovision.

you'd pretty much have to do this or send a big star with a huge fan base to get American viewers. otherwise, it'll become the men's world cup - something no one can convince Americans to care about, no matter how popular it is elsewhere. (the women's world cup is different, bc sometimes we win that one)

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snaynay@reddit

anyone nationally popular in the US is usually already at least somewhat known

There are thousands of national celebrities in the US who are effectively "no-names" outside the US. A common shock for Americans is when no-one outside the US knows anything about their athletes for example. Talking the biggest names. I'm an internet dweller, so I'm a bit more exposed, but almost no-one knows who Tom Brady is. NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB. None of them. Kobe Byrant? Who's that? Plays for the Lakers? What's that? They'd walk around any city in Europe uninterrupted.

Just like recently when the world was like "That Robbie Williams film looks silly" and the Americans collectively went "Who?". Globally famous superstar... US, no response.

does any country turn this into their own competition?

Yes. I think some do. I don't know much about Indvidual countries approach. I think Italy takes it a bit seriously. You could do something like send the winner of an idol show. But the song they perform needs to be written for Eurovision and released publicly only within a few months or something before the event.

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cherrycokeicee@reddit

I was referring to musicians, not athletes. Athletes are different because our sports landscape is completely different. (that's why Lionel Messi can grocery shop peacefully in Miami). our nationally popular musicians are much more widely known internationally, with the exception of country artists.

the Robbie Williams thing was a bit of an outlier. I think that's why it was such a weird thing from both the British and American perspective. I'll admit, I learned who he was from the monkey movie trailer (I did know the song "Angels," but only the Jessica Simpson version LOL). from our perspective, it was a little funny to see someone being marketed (to us specifically) as one of the biggest stars in the world while being a complete unknown entity in the US. and I think British folks were reasonably surprised by this - it's very rare that a British musician reaches his level of fame while being ENTIRELY UNKNOWN in the US. usually there's at least a niche fan following or one hit song. I can understand their reaction.

I'm not surprised at all that people who don't give a crap about football wouldn't recognize Tom Brady, but music is far more universal. Sabrina Carpenter was famous for 1 second in the US & next thing you know, she's opening the Brit awards. there aren't very many (non-country) artists we actually keep to ourselves.

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-Hannibal-Barca-@reddit

We should let Lady Gaga coach whoever we send. Like a cornerman in a boxing match

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jephph_@reddit

lol definitely cheating.

Especially if she did her Olympics performance at Eurovision instead

https://youtu.be/a240KhNIL4Q

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Quix66@reddit

That's who I was thinking. I don't even really line her songs but she's a good singer, better than Taylor Swift.

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Esagashi@reddit

Not cheating and the more wild her performance, the more likely she’d make it to the finals

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Draconuus95@reddit

Weird Al.

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seifd@reddit

I'm imagining a scenario where the winners of our various singing competitions face off to determine who goes on to the international competition.

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OncomingStormDW@reddit

Well, the joke is that they kinda have to be… niche, but in a way that really fits our national character, so you’d think the natural pick would be Weezer, however, the act should also be one that needs the exposure badly enough that they’d sign away the rights to the music they use in the contest.

They also can’t be too bad, like Satin Panthers (Known for Cbat)

I reason that we should send Klayton Albert, as he has musical talent, and I’d like to see him compete with the over-the-top stage presence that Eurovision demands.

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SovietChewbacca@reddit

Ween and only Ween

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TheMainEffort@reddit

My friend Greg is pretty good

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Living_Implement_169@reddit

I vote Greg - signed someone who grew up in ohio

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Henrylord1111111111@reddit

Lets be real there would be no competition, they’d have to call it Gregvision

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LogicalFallacyCat@reddit

Sure I'll go with Greg

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thisisrediculous99@reddit

Yes. Definitely Greg!

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imightb2old4this@reddit

Team Greg!

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Ducksaucenem@reddit

Go on Greg, you got this.

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AppallmentOfMongo@reddit

GRAG! GREG! GREG! GREG!

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SignificanceFun265@reddit

Greg’s for this in the bag for USA.

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Crankenberry@reddit

Does he still have his sidekick Steve or did they break up?

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builderofthings69@reddit

As long as he is not from Ohio I am also fine with greg.

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ValuableMoment2@reddit

That’s two from Ohio with Greg. Look out Eurovision, Greg is coming…

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peppermintmeow@reddit

Throwing my vote in for Greg.

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NotUntilTheFishJumps@reddit

GREG FTW

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GhostOfJamesStrang@reddit

Only reason Greg isnt selected is because it would be unfair

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moonwillow60606@reddit

Greg is awesome. Team Greg 100%

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devnullopinions@reddit

He’s crazy good at singing ya ya ding dong

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InevitableCup5909@reddit

I’d vote for Greg.

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Flat-Product-119@reddit

Man, fuck Greg

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devnullopinions@reddit

Greg Gang!

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TrillyMike@reddit

Know a Greg, good guy, so I feel good about this Greg too

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PersonNumber7Billion@reddit

What's not to like about Greg?

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schonleben@reddit

I also choose this guy’s Greg.

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codenameajax67@reddit

You'd have to explain the rules.

I'm assuming European countries don't send their best Singers to the competition

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JustSomeGuy556@reddit

Eurovision rules on who can enter are apparently actually determined by the broadcaster.

If you could run anyone, right now I'd send Chappel Roan.

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Live_in_a_shoe@reddit

Please don´t send Madonna, last time it was disater.....

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Early_Clerk7900@reddit

Any lounge act in a hotel.

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SordoCrabs@reddit

Sanjaya Malakar

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JustAnotherDay1977@reddit

I have heard of Eurovision, but thought it was a TV channel or streaming platform. It’s a contest?

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CollectionStraight2@reddit

It's a yearly singing contest. The songs are usually either campy & upbeat or overwrought ballads, the staging is kinda crazy and the voting system is incomprehensible. I like it!

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JustAnotherDay1977@reddit

Sounds like a European (and Australian) version of American Idol.

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Any-Concentrate-1922@reddit

Eurovision predates American Idol by a lot. It started in 1956.

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movienerd7042@reddit

It’s more like the World Cup or a sports event with multiple rounds, but instead of sports it’s a televised concert

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

It’s been going since 1956, and is so joyfully campy that it has leaned into being beloved by gay men for years. American Idol (or its UK originator, Pop Idol) don’t come close, but can be like some of the national contests to choose the song to send.)

I’ve been joking it’s basically Gay Superbowl but all halftime acts. And then the second half is geopolitics as everyone at the viewing party with you comments on which country gave what contestant top points, because while it’s about the songs, performances and staging, it’s also about who has friendly neighbors and who has massive diaspora populations voting.

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Magical_Harold@reddit

American Idol, the US spin off from the UK show Pop Idol - no Eurovision is not like that, it’s much worse :)

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Notgoingtowrite@reddit

American Idol is actually based off of Pop Idol from the UK! I would describe Eurovision more like a bunch of countries sending their Voice/Idol winner to compete in a showcase with other Voice/Idol winners (some countries do have a national final to select their contestant whereas others do an internal selection). But each song is original and has unique staging.

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macoafi@reddit

Except it’s one artist per country, representing their country. Like “oh look, Germany won Eurovision” the same as “oh look, Uruguay won the World Cup.”

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SylphSeven@reddit

The Aquabats.

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Aggravating-Shark-69@reddit

Yeah, Greg sounds good.

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One-Strategy5717@reddit

The Crüxshadows

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PMMeYourPupper@reddit

Ye, unfortunately

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kaithekid2020@reddit

yerovision 💀

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Weightmonster@reddit

Katy Perry.

Are their limitations on professional vs Amateur? Signed with a major record label? Or Certain number of records sold? Are we taking into account if they would actually do it? Can the singer have world wide popularity? Do they have to write the song too?

If the only stipulation is American, I’d go with Katy Perry. Obviously a good pop singer and has the flare for the dramatic and silly that seems to be favored by voters. Plus she KNOWS how to record a hit.

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Standard_Plant_8709@reddit

There are no limitations whatsoever to the artists. They don't even have to be from the country they represent.

It's a song contest, so it needs to be a song that has not been published before. And it can't be longer than 3 minutes long. And it needs to be sung live.

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Weightmonster@reddit

Does it have to be an Amateur song writer? Does Max Martin write all of Sweden’s entries?

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Standard_Plant_8709@reddit

No, nothing has to be amateur.

It works differently in different countries, but in my country (Estonia) we have a local contest called "Eesti Laul" ("Song of Estonia") where literally everyone can send entries. Literally everyone. Then a panel of judges select like 20 songs which will then go on to compete against each other in a televised concert and the winner is decided by public vote. Generally the selection of songs will be like 50/50 newcomers/amateurs and well established songwriters/artists. The winner can then represent Estonia in Eurovision (but doesn't have to, if they decide not to, but it has never happened yet)

Sweden has something similar called Melodiefestivalen and as far as I know Max Martin could very well send an entry, and if public votes for his song, then his song will represent Sweden.

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Weightmonster@reddit

Ok. It looks like he had contributed to Eurovision songs for Russia and Luxembourg.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

It’s a song contest. The main rule is that the song can’t have been performed live before nomination.

The limitations on who performs it are more logistical. Artists who are big in their country but looking to get more international exposure often compete. People with a big international profile already often don’t want to devote their time without payout or risk losing to a kid from Croatia.

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Humble-Pineapple-329@reddit

We did a great American song contest similar to Eurovision a few years back and it didn’t go well.

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tara_tara_tara@reddit

Hilariously, a K-pop star won it.

AleXa was born and raised in the US, but had a career in Korea when she came back to the US to compete in it. She won and then went back to Korea to continue her career. She is a low to mid tier level success there.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

It was too long. Eurovision is only three shows, and a lot of people only watch the finale.

NBC tried to make it a regular season long thing like The Voice or something and it just doesn’t work well that way. Plus there’s just not as much “state pride” as there is national pride, we’re all just Americans so there’s just not as much stakes for the audience as in Eurovision where it’s a competition between nations.

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happytransformer@reddit

It was paced too weird. Way too much dead time between acts, and 56 songs is too many.

Most of our “state pride” stems from different cultural touch points, not really music since it doesn’t vary too much. A competition of which of our gas station convenience stores was best instead? We’d be frothing out the mouths

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bcece@reddit

This is it. I tried to watch and it was just too much.

Also, Kwik Trip will take down all the others.

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NudePenguin69@reddit

*Laughs in Buc ee's"

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bcece@reddit

I knew it would be a Buc ee's person to respond in error first. It's often that same group of people who also think that Whataburger is better than Culver's. 😉

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NudePenguin69@reddit

Well you arent wrong lol. As someone who lived for 6 years in Wisconsin and Illinois, I could never get into Culver's tbh. The whole butter burger thing was always just too greasy for me. But to be fair, I wouldnt compare it with Whataburger. I would say its more in the vein of Fudruckers or Red Robin as sorta fast food, sorta nicer.

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Savafan1@reddit

That was nothing like Eurovision

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zealot_ratio@reddit

All I know about Eurovision I learned from the Fire Saga movie, so grain of salt.

We have a lot of campy pop right about now, take your pic.

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reno2mahesendejo@reddit

The fuck is a eurotrashovision

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polyphuckin@reddit

Eurotrash is a totally different programme to Eurovision.

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lostdragon05@reddit

No one because we don’t know what Eurovision is (or probably care, to be honest).

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dausy@reddit

I think a lot of Americans are aware of Eurovision but we forget about it because we aren't invited. I think if we were invited, we could care a little too much it would probably get us uninvited again for being obnoxious.

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Trick_Photograph9758@reddit

Yeah, I'm sure the US would be glued to their screens watching an unknown performer compete against Croatia in a talent show in Europe. Ratings bonanza.

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RoyalOrganization676@reddit

This sounds sarcastic, but talent contest shows were VERY popular here for years. I am a hermit now and have no idea what people are into currently, but American Idol and the like were huge.

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snaynay@reddit

I mean, it's a much bigger televised event than the Superbowl, if that puts it into context.

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dausy@reddit

I mean..can't that be said for any country tho? Why would Australia care about a random talent show in Europe?

Why would we care about the random other countries in the Olympics even?

For fun and country pride?

We've received some good songs/bands from Eurovision here too. Like Maneskin and Arcade by Duncan Laurence.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

Australia loves it because they get it. It’s Baz Luhrmann aesthetic writ large.

Frankly, most of the US wouldn’t get the spirit of it and would be a drag on the mood like Israel or last year’s Moldovan reaction. (There are plenty of individual Americans that get it, but as a whole, the US cultural approach to international competitions wouldn’t mesh well.)

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

I'm in the US and absolutely drop everything during Eurovision week. Half my running playlist is full of Eurovision songs from the last 2 years. You can't tell me Róa doesn't make you want to dance. My entire yesterday was centered around watching the finals.

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Notgoingtowrite@reddit

Yeah, also in the US and we have a massive watch party every year! I enjoy being on the outside of it though and not participating ourselves.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

I enjoy it more BECAUSE we aren't in it.

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LassierVO@reddit

YES.

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Notgoingtowrite@reddit

Totally!

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Notgoingtowrite@reddit

Totally!

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klyther@reddit

Same. We have been doing watch parties for over 10 years now and had 18 people show up yesterday.

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LunaD0g273@reddit

Cast of Righteous Gemstones but even more over-the-top. Walton Goggins will clog.

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ReactionAble7945@reddit

Currently Taylor Swift is the most popular artist from the USA. IF the judges are teen girls, the USA will win.

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_daddy69_@reddit

Taylor Swift can’t sing lmao, shed be awful

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ReactionAble7945@reddit

While I may agree with you, she is very popular around the world.

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_daddy69_@reddit

I don’t think she’s particularly popular in non-anglophone countries, and her style of music doesn’t really fit Eurovision. She’s also a terrible singer without autotune.

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SpaTowner@reddit

Sending your most famous artist isn’t really the Eurovision vibe.

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ReactionAble7945@reddit

Euro vision is a competition where a no body moves up through multiple competitions to finally go to the big event.

Being that the USA doesn't have the small competitions to move someone up... The only logical conclusion is to send a major star to win.

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Trick_Photograph9758@reddit

I have no idea how Eurovision works. I assume big stars don't do it. I mean, the most popular American performer at the moment is Taylor Swift, but she's not entering a TV contest. So is it just some relatively unknown performer?

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maq0r@reddit

Well tbf Eurovision was where Celine Dion and ABBA started their careers

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masturbakery@reddit

Celine Dion is Canadian though?

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TheMainEffort@reddit

Australia and Israel also both participate I think

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

Israel is a member of the European Broadcasting network, Australia got invited for a special one-time guest appearance about 10 years ago because they are such enthusiastic Eurovision fans and they were such good guests they were invited to stay.

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Wafkak@reddit

Australia is also an EBU member, same for Canada actually.

The EBU actually tried an American song contest but it wasn't the same.

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masturbakery@reddit

Israel had Dana international I don’t know about Australia though?

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

The representative doesn’t have to be born there, Celine Dion represented Switzerland in 1988.

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movienerd7042@reddit

Flo Rida represented San Marino a few years ago

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masturbakery@reddit

Gotcha I didn’t know that

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CourtClarkMusic@reddit

She represented France, singing in French, if I’m not mistaken.

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Hoosier_Jedi@reddit

I’ve seen that performance. It’s excellent.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

Switzerland.

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SwenKa@reddit

Right: represented France, singing in Switzerland.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

She was representing Switzerland in Dublin. She was singing in French because that’s one of Switzerland’s official languages.

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Amockdfw89@reddit

From what I know her health is not very good at all right now so maybe guest singing isn’t possible

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

Yeah it came up on the sub Reddit once. I looked up what she has, it sounds utterly hellish.

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Amockdfw89@reddit

Yea. The fact it like specifically targets what she is good at (singing and prancing around on stage) is a cruel irony. like a monkey paw situation

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Ducksaucenem@reddit

Damn, that woman can hold a note.

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StupidLemonEater@reddit

Exactly, they started their careers with Eurovision. Its for up-and-comers, not artists who are already famous.

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bitsybear1727@reddit

Unless you're Sweden sending Loreen for a 2nd win.

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Wafkak@reddit

Artists who got bit through Eurovision are kind of the exception.

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Standard_Plant_8709@reddit

But did she REALLY win though? :D

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bitsybear1727@reddit

Oh I know lol. It's the way it goes lately. There's the "winner" then the winner.

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perplexedtv@reddit

A poor man's Johnny Logan

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TheBimpo@reddit

So we have to imagine an unknown who will become a global icon, I nominate that guy at the open mic at the bar last week.

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TooManyDraculas@reddit

Right. Started their careers. Neither were big stars at the time.

Most of the contestants are established acts. They might be somewhat well known in their home country, or interactionally known in a particularly genre. But they might also be some local bar band.

It's almost never people who are already known internationally.

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microcorpsman@reddit

started

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

Sometimes big names are sent, it varies wildly every year and by country.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

San Marino's delegate this year was in Eiffel 65 and has hundreds of millions of downloads on all of his songs on spotify. Not that it translated into anything. He came in last in the final.

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Robbylution@reddit

I bet afterwards he was a little blue.

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Wafkak@reddit

It's always double there have been artists who placed really low who they gained a huge following through Eurovision. And winners who got a boost for barely a year outside their country.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

He did seem genuinely bummed when they announced he received so few televotes. But he's worth like $10M so I think he'll be fine. And he's produced and co-wrote songs for Eurovision in the past, so I wouldn't be surprised if he does that again.

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Chaser_606@reddit

Woosh

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

It obviously was not a woosh. I'm literally the person who said he was in the band. I got the reference.

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moonwillow60606@reddit

I see you what you did there.

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JackIsARobot@reddit

Eiffel 65 europop was my first CD as a kid, haha.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

I thought his song was a banger. But also my favorite was Spain, so I guess the world disagrees with my musical tastes lol.

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Ganym@reddit

lol Spain was one of my top 3 and was genuinely shocked they received so few points.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

Ooh we really liked Spain, too. The song was great and her performance was excellent both nights.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

I thought so too, was very disappointed she scored so low.

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

I like Eurovision but from my very casual watching it basically seems like American Idol except for the whole continent, so yeah...assuming our major recording artists are not eligible, just whoever turns out for American Idol I guess.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

It's completely different from American idol. And also it's much, much older. If you're inclined, there's a Eurovision movie staring Will Ferrell that's pretty accurate to how the actual Eurovision works.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

Will Ferrell is obviously a fan in the best way. 😄

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

Fair enough. I don't really care, but now I'm all curious...I've heard jokes about European politics playing a role, but is that actually true?

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

Well they're not episodes.... it's more like the college football playoffs. Each country has their own contest where there's one winner they send. There are 2 semi finals where 10 contestants from each night are sent to the finals alongside the Big 5 and the host country.

Politics plays a huge role, and that was really clear this last year and the year before.

Half the available points are given by the country jury delegations and the other half are done by televote. So you get country politics with voting blocs.

But then you get world politics. Ukraine will always rank high enough to get to the finals, and usually ranks high enough in general. Are they actually the best act? Probably not. And then you get the controversy of Israel. They dominated the televote to the point Spain has asked for an investigation into their country's televote breakdown. And similar to Ukraine, the performance itself wasn't good enough to warrant those votes.

So as much as they want to be decoupled from politics, it can't ever be completely decoupled.

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

Thanks, that's really interesting!

Also kind of makes me not at all interested in watching more Eurovision than I already have, though, gotta admit.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

They're not episodes, they're televised concerts. Just like the superbowl playoffs are not episodes, they are televised football games. Just because it's a contest doesn't mean the format of the broadcasting is in episodes.

I'm not offended, it's just not the right word to desribe it. Unless you also call the superbowl and all the playoff games episodes, too.

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SwenKa@reddit

I was invited to a viewing party for the finals and was sad to learn they do NOT play football during halftime.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

Haha that would be funny.

The first night the hosts made a joke about being sorry for all the football fans who had to give up the remote that night. (Granted they meant soccer, but it still worked. And was ironic because my husband absolutely had to give up watching a baseball game so I could watch the replay of the first semis when I got home from work.)

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

What is the difference between Eurovision and shows like American Idol or America's Got Talent, then? I'm genuinely curious, I'm not a big fan of any of them but have caught a lot of "episodes" here and there from a bunch, and they all seem kind of the same. I'd describe the latter two as having episodes, so I guess I'm not sure of the difference with the former.

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

There isn't a single panel of the same 4 judges yesr after year advancing people through multiple rounds with more and more eliminations. They aren't ever set up to sing with each other or in groups. They don't sing multiple songs over time. And the public vote alone isn't the deciding factor. And they also change the scoring format every few years.

It's a song contest, not an artist contest. They aren't looking for the best singer or the person with the most talent. It's the best song with the best performance. Each country sends 1 song with a single performance. That's it. They didn't even have semi finals until the 2000s.

It's a completely different format with a completely different focus and scoring.

This is why I feel like the US shouldn't participate. We don't know how to do competitions any way than our own way, and would struggle with the spirit of the contest because it ISN'T necessarily set up how we'd expect it to be.

We'd force Beyoncé to go and then get pissed when she lost to someone singing in Italian.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

It’s been going since 1956, and is so joyfully campy that it has leaned into being beloved by gay men for years. American Idol (or its UK originator, Pop Idol) don’t come close, but can be like some of the national contests to choose the song to send.)

I’ve been joking it’s basically Gay Superbowl but all halftime acts. And then the second half is geopolitics as everyone at the viewing party with you comments on which country gave what contestant top points, because while it’s about the songs, performances and staging, it’s also about who has friendly neighbors and who has massive diaspora populations voting.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

It’s more like Gay Super Bowl that is all halftime acts.

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perplexedtv@reddit

This should be top comment.

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Trick_Photograph9758@reddit

But since it's by country, isn't it a popularity or political contest at some point, as opposed to being just about talent?

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

Isn't that how American Idol already works? Kind of seems like the same thing, but European countries are so small you gotta go wider to get the same talent pool.

That's my assumption anyway, I could be way off. I've only ever been a casual watcher of any of them. Like I mostly watched American Idol while working at a homeless shelter, because it was the one thing we could all get on board with, lol.

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Trick_Photograph9758@reddit

I think America's Got Talent came from Britain's Got Talent, so I think most European countries could do their own version of American Idol. But yeah, you're right, it's probably the same concept.

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

Yeah, sorry if I wasn't clear. I don't think the idea of hosting a televised singing (or general talent) contest is unique to the US, I just don't think that Eurovision has a whole lot of relevance to the US because of the wildly different population sizes and the scope of the entertainment industry in various countries. It's just an unfair playing field by default at the moment because of different country sizes and different entertainment industry standards in each.

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perplexedtv@reddit

Eurovision just wouldn't mean anything without all the context of countries who like/hate one another. It's a spite competition as much as anything.

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Trick_Photograph9758@reddit

Can a big successful country, like England, France, Germany, ever win? Or is it usually some small inoffensive and/or underdog country?

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happytransformer@reddit

Italy won a couple years ago, Sweden tends to be a powerhouse (which tracks, seeing how much of our music industry works with folks in the Swedish music industry).

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perplexedtv@reddit

Yes, it's always been about politics and popularity first, music second. Moreso now with the fucked way they tally votes. Often a song just really stands out and wins on merit or is so bland and inoffensive it wins kind of by default.

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ColossusOfChoads@reddit

That's why the UK doesn't send any of their top stars.

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happytransformer@reddit

Each respective country makes their own rules about who is allowed to represent them. So ideally, we could send one of our most popular artists as long as they agreed to it.

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TillPsychological351@reddit

The crucial difference is that Eurovision is a song contest, not necessarily a singing contest.

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Maleficent-Hawk-318@reddit

That's fair, though most American Idol winners have original material too so I think they'd still be able to do well.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

It depends on the country. Some send-up-and-comers, many send winners chosen through a national song contest, some (like France) tend to send some of their country’s more popular musicians who are looking for more international exposure.

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fleetiebelle@reddit

I just started paying attention to Eurovision a few years ago, and I don't quite get how it works, which is kind of the charm. I know that some of the winners aren't from the country they're representing. I'm guessing the reason why Dua Lipa isn't representing Albania or Charlie XCX isn't in for the UK is that it wouldn't benefit them at all.

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Esagashi@reddit

Yeah, a big star won their country’s nomination this year and decided not to participate because it would interfere with an upcoming tour. Usually the artist isn’t widely known and their song must be one that hasn’t been performed publicly before being submitted (this is a rather soft rule though).

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FingalForever@reddit

Be aware - Eurovision is a song contest. The singer/band (even the songwriter) however can be from anywhere, many Americans have already sang at Eurovision.

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djdjdkdjdjfnx@reddit

I’m hearing a lot of buzz about this guy’s friend Greg.

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cmdradama83843@reddit

Dolly Parton

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majinspy@reddit

Can you even imagine?

To quote Charles Barkley: "I don't know anything about Albania, but they're in trouble."

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InevitableCup5909@reddit

Iirc it has to be somebody relatively unknown, not the second coming of Jesus in singer form.

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Standard_Plant_8709@reddit

Doesn't HAVE to be, but generally ends up being, because famous and big name artists can't be bothered with Eurovision.

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AcceptableDebate281@reddit

The UK has put forward people who are very well known (at least in the UK) before - cliff Richard etc., not that it helped our chances!

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dwintaylor@reddit

The only answer, she would kill the competition then set up free books for children in every country she defeated

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ConfusedScr3aming@reddit

I don't personally enjoy her music, but probably Taylor Swift.

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baycommuter@reddit

I'm thinking "Bad Blood." One of her worst songs with a thumping beat and a fantastic stage show.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

I’d want something culturally American like country or R&B, but I’m sure we’d send a generic pop song just like most countries send to Eurovision.

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Esagashi@reddit

Weirdly there have been American country music and folk music style songs in Eurovision before, done by Europeans. They’re as weird to listen to as you’d expect, especially if you’re usually a fan of the genre.

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thegmoc@reddit

It's not really weird. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of the music they sing on there is rooted in some type of American genre. American music has been the basis for world popular music for the past 100 years now, starting with jazz in the 1920s.

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snaynay@reddit

A lot of music is influenced by European roots too. Jazz has traces that go way back to European classical music if you play that game. Europe defined lots of unique musical sounds and a lot of American genres are influenced by Europeans... even if indirectly and bouncing ideas off each other. I mean, the British alone were pivotal in the history of rock and taking traditionally African rooted blues and US's early rock and roll with the likes of Elvis and Chuck Berry into a new territory and pioneering the subgenres that dominated American scenes. The Beatles, Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, to name a few.

The song that won this year is heavily orchestral/classical with marching beats, operatic chorus and breaks out with electronic music, which Europe has been the primary pioneer who inspired millions of American artists over the years.

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thegmoc@reddit

Yes, a lot of American music has European roots as well as African roots because a lot of Americans have European and African roots. All of the music, however is uniquely American. Europeans working within the framework set for them by Americans means nothing. The music is still American.

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snaynay@reddit

In what context? There seems to be this massive barrier in the US where if it's not engrained in your cultural history, it didn't happen and similarities found elsewhere are copied... but never vice versa.

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sleepyboi08@reddit

The entry from the Netherlands in 2014 was a country/folk song and they came in second place. I actually thought they did a good job and it didn’t sound weird.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWe8PRsW4T0&pp=0gcJCdgAo7VqN5tD

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Squirrel_Q_Esquire@reddit

It definitely sounds a little weird because of the accent, but overall really good.

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Pete_Iredale@reddit

I came across a French Canadian country channel on the radio once. That was interesting to say the least.

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Darkdragoon324@reddit

How did they do in the voting lol. I’ve only been watching since 2022.

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sleepyboi08@reddit

Netherlands 2014 came in second place, I thought they did a great job. I think most other country songs didn’t do too great though.

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-Hannibal-Barca-@reddit

Red Clay Strays

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

Flo Rida performed in the 2021 entry for San Marino.

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SwenKa@reddit

As I understand it, the US had a similar contest they tried with the 50 states, but it ended up all being country and they all took it way too seriously (compared to many of the Eurovision entries that are essentially well-performed jokes). To be clear, I prefer Eurovision: don't take it too seriously.

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Foxy_locksy1704@reddit

I would love if it was a bluegrass musician!

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HomChkn@reddit

Chris Stapleton, when was in the Steeldrivers, would have been perfect.

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Quix66@reddit

Alison Krause then. Except I can't see her in a competition.

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macoafi@reddit

Oooh what about Bela Fleck & the Flecktones? Bluegrass with electric bass melody (by the incomparable Victor Wooten).

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winnielikethepooh15@reddit

The blues singer from Sinners.

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Small_Method_6713@reddit

50 states, full of cashiers and bus drivers who are more talented than some of these people. It would be a monster task to determine. As a Brit, we would love to have the Yanks but I fear you lot would crush us, year on year. Same with ‘football’ if Americans become as passionate as we are. Could you imagine! Watch the Olympics. That would be the outcome.

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_daddy69_@reddit

“as a Brit”

Fuck off lmao, you’re from Alabama

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Small_Method_6713@reddit

I am a Dual National, I am ethnically a Brit and I spent half my life here. Most of youth in between the two. You don’t get to tell me what I am.

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NecessaryPopular1@reddit

I don’t believe Eurovision is for renowned artists, isn’t it? But let’s pretend they’d accept someone already famous: Lady Gaga is very aligned with Eurovisions’s vibe, visual identity, and she understands spectacle quite well, imo, Gaga might even win!

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Habba84@reddit

There have been many big names previously, but they hardly ever succeed. Often they play too conservative and boring songs.

To succeed, you need to be excellent singer, have a great show, and in the end very likeable across the audiences. Essentially you need to be able to make people like music they haven't enjoyed before.

And of course you need to break the voting blocksn (neighbours voting each others).

I doubt Gaga would win. Weird Al might be closer.

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band-of-horses@reddit

Will Ferril and Chad Smith.

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groucho_barks@reddit

I'm checking you out!

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League-Ill@reddit

She's Canadian.

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band-of-horses@reddit

That's not against the rules.

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Infinite_Crow_3706@reddit

That doesn’t disqualify her but might impact voting

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Flimsy_Security_3866@reddit

After Will Ferrell and Chad Smith do a drum battle, have John C Reilly bust on stage asking if they've touched his drum set.

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timbotheny26@reddit

I was gonna say Dolly Parton, Weird Al, and Jeff Goldblum.

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EcstasyCalculus@reddit

I get the first two, but why Rachel?

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wowbragger@reddit

The only real answer.

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Bear_necessities96@reddit

Benson boone

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petrifikate@reddit

Lil Nas X. Very few Americans would understand the delightful camp spectacle of Eurovision and would take it way too seriously. He wouldn't. Plus, you never get the big name superstar Vegas residency act to compete. He can do it, he's got time.

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Bibliophile2244@reddit

Tenacious D or Lonely Island would have my votes.

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FemboyEngineer@reddit

Tyler the Creator would be a good pick, the ESC loves itself a character song

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Left_Lengthiness_433@reddit

After googling Eurovision to find out what it is, I don’t see any reason to care.

The fact that I’m an American doesn’t matter. I still wouldn’t care if I lived in Germany, or somewhere else in Europe…

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movienerd7042@reddit

Why bother commenting then?

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Lumpy-Ring-1304@reddit

Wtf is eurovision

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movienerd7042@reddit

It’s like Europe’s Super Bowl. It’s a song contest established in 1956 to bring Europe together after World War Two, although multiple non European countries compete too. Every competing country sends an individual original song and there are two semi finals, although the big event everyone watches is the grand final. Across the semi finals 26 countries qualify for the final and then the winner is decided by a combination of points given by a jury and points given by a televote. Famous past winners include ABBA and Celine Dion.

The whole final, including all of the performances, the halftime content and the results being announced goes on from 8pm until about midnight and the winner hosts the next year’s competition. It’s known for being very camp, silly and over the top and although it’s not supposed to be political the voting always is. Last years’ final got 163 million live TV viewers and 81 million unique viewers on YouTube.

People have Eurovision parties where they each choose a country to dress up as, sometimes people get given a country and whoever’s country does best gets a prize, or they just get drunk and watch it together.

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Alpaca030@reddit

In the 2021 Eurovision, San Marino’s song (Senhit-Andrenalina) featured Flo Rida and they performed it together, so I guess him.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

This. Other Americans who have been part of the competition include Katrina and the Waves (UK 1997 winners … Singer and Bassist), and Dita Von Teese and Oscar Loya (Germany 2009, Oscar was the lead singer of Alex Swings Oscar Sings, and Dits naturally did a burlesque act as part of the staging).

Kalomira (Greece 2008)

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ThePickleConnoisseur@reddit

Snoop Dogg

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revjor@reddit

Sufjan Stevens and it’s not even close.

He was made for it.

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perplexedtv@reddit

This is only fair if the entire show is him representing a different country and playing a different instrument.

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NoAnnual3259@reddit

He’d write an album with a song about every single country competing in Eurovision.

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Rei_Rodentia@reddit

I dunno, what's a eurovision contest?

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Kgb_Officer@reddit

It's like the Olympics, but with music. Every country sends a band or musician to represent their country, they're judged until just one country wins. Europe is the primary focus (hence EURO-vision) but over the years a handful of non-european countries have participated (Australia, Israel, Cyprus, Morocco, Armenia)

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perplexedtv@reddit

TIL Morocco competed once on the basis that their national broadcaster is part of the EBU, came second last and refuses to compete as long as Israel is included.

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SayethWeAll@reddit

I think it’s the one where every district sends a representative and they fight to the death.

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Itsdanaozideshihou@reddit

But what if he actually wins?

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perplexedtv@reddit

The US might not win every year but it would most likely determine the winner more often than not with its huge population and disapora from every country.

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FerricDonkey@reddit

Send him again next year

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h0nsh0tf1rst@reddit

Did we not learn anything from Trump?

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PandaGlobal4120@reddit

Fair assessment

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SayethWeAll@reddit

Doesn’t the winner have to marry into the Hapsburg royal family or something? Either way, he’s no longer our problem.

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JBoy9028@reddit

Song contest between nations. Performers put basically music video effort into their one song for competition.

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ColossusOfChoads@reddit

We would make like the British and send a B-lister or a has-been. Because as with the British, all the other countries would kneejerk vote against us because reasons.

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LurkerByNatureGT@reddit

Flo Rida, naturellement.

https://eurovision.tv/story/flo-rida-to-join-senhit-for-san-marino

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Choice-Lavishness259@reddit

The funny thing is that it is a SONG contest not a singer contest.

So with most of the suggestions here it would count as another victory for Sweden 🙂

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Whose_my_daddy@reddit

Anne Hathaway actually sings quite well

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jkoki088@reddit

Americans don’t care about Eurovision. What even is Eurovision?

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MattieShoes@reddit

A goofy song contest that dates back to the 1950s. While it's a contest, it doesn't feel like it's taken very seriously as a contest -- just an excuse to get together and have a good time.

That said, there's still accusations of political alliances between countries affecting voting, stuff like that. Also since it's sort of a popularity contest, music styles tend to stick to broad appeal stuff, like poppy or folky styles. ABBA won back in the 70s with Waterloo.

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MattieShoes@reddit

If it were in the spirit of Eurovision, somebody none of us have heard of, except maybe the town where they live.

But knowing us, we'd try to shoehorn some already phenomenally successful artist into it.

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Trialbyfuego@reddit

Bruno mars

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LassierVO@reddit

Probably someone JUST about to get their big break. Already established artists would have too much to lose (can you imagine a huge artist like Beyonce or Taylor Swift failing to qualify for finals? It could make a mockery of their careers) and of course the time and money commitments when they could be filling arenas. So that's a no.

Or, we'd just hire a Swede, and honestly that seems to work fine.

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BestThingGoing@reddit

Bruno Mars

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GalenDev@reddit

I would send Starset.

They're the right level of weird.
They're also very much not weird so normies would get what's going on.
They're big on visual spectacle.
Legit messages to their music. Maybe someone would learn something.
They like performing stuff they haven't released yet.
They're big but not massive. Similar to what Lordi was when they won Eurovision themselves.
They're just plain awesome.

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Texas43647@reddit

Most Americans don’t know what it is but who knows. Probably some unknown artist. I don’t think it’s common to send massive starts like Taylor or Lady Gaga

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Hoosier_Jedi@reddit

Send Taylor Swift and call it a day. Europe can mail us the Eurovision Cup or crown or whatever.

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DjAlphaRED5@reddit

Sean Combs

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AccountantRadiant351@reddit

I feel like Weird Al would kill it

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xSparkShark@reddit

Kanye West

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MyLittleDonut@reddit

I think Lil Nas X would be a good choice. He can blend genres, has excellent performances, and keeps writing bangers.

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Squirrel_Q_Esquire@reddit

Ok Go

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John_Tacos@reddit

What are the rules?

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Esagashi@reddit

Your country’s independent broadcaster (must not be one that’s solely focused on pushing the ruling party’s agenda but also shows entertainment and news) nominates their favorite artist and song to compete. Some countries do a qualifying competition (Italy’s seems super intense) and some just pick someone (UK tends to do this). The broadcaster is then responsible for paying their artists’ way and making sure they’re ready for the big stage which tends to take a few months.

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John_Tacos@reddit

We have multiple independent broadcasters. And no government control over what public tv shows. So that’s like 20 different entities depending on how it’s counted.

We would probably do a nationwide contest, no idea who would win though.

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klyther@reddit

NBC is an associate member of the European Broadcasting Union (which is why Peacock broadcasts Eurovision) so the American delegate process would go thru them.

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Scribe_WarriorAngel@reddit

Hank Williams Jr, or god rest him Charlie Daniels

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SituationSad4304@reddit

Jesse Wells

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scuricide@reddit

Greg.

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upvoter222@reddit

This guy was in last year's contest, so if that's what a Eurovision singer looks like, David Byrne seems like a reasonable choice.

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cozynite@reddit

Kelly Clarkson.

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JackC1126@reddit

Wheezer

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LiqdPT@reddit

I think that misses the point. I think Eurovision entries are relative unknowns...

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

Some are, but not all of them are. Tommy Cash from Estonia is even well known in the US. He collaborates with Oliver Tree a lot. And even though he didn't place well at all, the san marino artist is a pretty successful DJ and producer and was in Eiffel 65.

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LiqdPT@reddit

I have no idea who those first 2 are (though I'm Blue)

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Catsdrinkingbeer@reddit

I mean, your comment history says you're 50. It's not really surprising you wouldn't be familiar with a social media musician who rose in fame over the last few years. But for a magnitude sense, Oliver Tree's more popular songs have about as many Spotify plays as Chappelle Roan's Pink Pony Club. He's just not necessarily going to be going to the Grammys. The music is a bit off-color and theatrical.

Or for better reference, Oliver Trees has 3x as many monthly Spotify listeners than Death Cab, and his most listened to song which came out in 2023 has more than double the listens of I Will Follow You into the Dark.

My point is, someone doesn't have to be a universal household name to be famous.

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Esagashi@reddit

Tommy Cash from this year was extremely well known. I’d link his most well-known piece, nicknamed “The Sex Olympics”, but it’s only hosted on Porn Hub

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Ganym@reddit

Oh god! That was Tommy Cash. That's makes so much sense now.

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darkphxrising@reddit

If they want to win: Anderson Paak or (tbh) Pitbull If they want to pander: (respectfully) Chappell Roan, and this would probably lead to a UK-esque tepid reception What they would actually do: Katy Perry in her current touring arrangement

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pinniped90@reddit

The rotting corpse of Ted Nugent

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RealEzraGarrison@reddit

I say we send Mastodon, but Brent Hinds has to go, too.

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RobinFarmwoman@reddit

Wierd Al Yankovic

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elqueco14@reddit

I think sending someone like the revivalists would be awesome

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Inside-Run785@reddit

What’s Eurovision?

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Jack_of_Spades@reddit

I would want it to be Lonely Island.

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FustianRiddle@reddit

No particular performer but dammit if I wouldn't want it to be a Zydeco band.

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Raibean@reddit

We would do a whole American Idol style miniseries called The Path to Eurovision.

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Esagashi@reddit

We did a Eurovision movie that didn’t perform very well

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Raibean@reddit

Tbf that’s a movie

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machagogo@reddit

Isn't it amateur?

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Esagashi@reddit

Not necessarily- the song just needs to not have been performed publicly before it’s nominated

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taintmaster900@reddit

Kanye west

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microcorpsman@reddit

Jack Black

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stinkyman360@reddit

William Hung

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BuryatMadman@reddit

Kanye west

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No-BrowEntertainment@reddit

Nothing an American could ever write would surpass “My Lovely Horse” by Fr. Crilly and Fr. McGuire.

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CollectionStraight2@reddit

Very true

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shelwood46@reddit

I would never do that to an American musician.

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NoTomatillo@reddit

Currently, I'd personally choose Taylor Swift. Because she's literally the biggest star not just here but the entire world. Idk how they vote there but if all the taylor swift stans in europe combined together to vote , they would outnumber their local artist fans there lol.

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tirewisperer@reddit

Stars don’t want to be caught dead at this event. Who the hell wants to compete against a woman singer that spirts a beard. And she won it too!!

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KJHagen@reddit

I thought it was a TV network.

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ivylass@reddit

Mean Mary https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_Mary

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DOMSdeluise@reddit

I'll do it

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NoAnnual3259@reddit

Ween

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SushiGirlRC@reddit

Never heard of it, I'm not even into American contests.

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DrGerbal@reddit

Sanguasigabogg

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Bcatfan08@reddit

If it's most popular artist, probably Taylor Swift or Beyonce. Best actual singer, probably Lady Gaga.

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Will_Power22@reddit

Sematary

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Will_Power22@reddit

Joeyy

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OhThrowed@reddit

Kendrick Lamar

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MajesticBread9147@reddit

The best representative of America we have tbh

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needsmorequeso@reddit

I’d want to know more about the parameters. Is there a usual method for deciding who to send? It’s usually an up and coming artist rather than someone established, right, so like a Chappell Roan who has become popular in the last year rather than a Taylor Swift or Beyonce who has always been famous, right?

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NittanyOrange@reddit

Kendrick raps the verses, Beyonce sings the hook.

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Uhhyt231@reddit

This year I would do Miles Canton.

I also dont know the rules or anything