We’ve had this system for years/decades. They’re just actively changing it to show it off. We don’t see it often because it’s expensive to produce/sell/maintain.
I have a Citroen XM with the Hydractive II suspension. I fully agree. Mine is already complicated enough. No way I'll touch that thing we're seeing here.
Wait until the first repair bills come out at $5K/strut and you have to have an OEM scan tool to put the suspension into 'service mode' so it can only be repaired at a dealership
> We don’t see it often because it’s expensive to produce/sell/maintain.
Well, that it and it would completely negate like 70% of all speed control methods like speed bumps and rumble strips.
Though I was partially joking I was just going off of some of the comments from the [Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/engineering/comments/2mxkj1/bose_suspension_fake_or_real/) a while back.
Anecdote time; The I-Pace that I used to drive made speed bumps barely noticeable at any of the speeds that I cared to test. There was no "active spring force", like in the Nio, Bose or Porsches. All it took was a well tuned air suspension with "adaptive dynamics", and the ground clearance of a crossover.
Sure, if I had gone fast enough, some speed bump would probably have sent me flying, but I think that would be true of any system. Anyhow, I didn't drive like a total menace out to kill people and pets, and as a result I could simply ignore all the speed bumps that I encountered, without any ill effects. It took a little getting used to when I switched to a coupe.
Yep, first in France was the Citroën XM, back in 1989. It had some road-reading radars which were linked to the hydraulic suspension.
Great feeling when driving, a nightmare in maintenance costs.
Well I think there is a misconception with Chinese made products; we have GM vehicles made in China and shipped here. I am sure they can make it for cheaper, but it could last maybe 75-90% as long as the current systems? It can also depend on how hard they work, or if they’re abused or neglected too. Everyone wants it until they don’t.
Chinese built and chinese engineered are 2 entirely seperate things imo
The Chinese manfuacturers that sell in Europe regularly rank bottom of the pile for reliability
I think it's unfair to make such generalized statements, especially given when the same could be said for other western manufacturers that have unreliable cars.
I tried looking up reliability on the BYD Seal/Dolphin and found nothing.
[MG and Polestar are at the bottom and 9th from the bottom](https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-most-reliable-cars-brands/n26159) repectively in this survey
I don’t dispute that, but I’m old enough to remember when Hyundais were jokes—absolute jokes.
Chinese manufacturers are coming in a big, big way. The quality is coming as well.
To be fair though, Hyundai's are South Korean vehicles, not Chinese. Yes some parts/vehicles are made in China, but they're also made in South Korea, Mexico and the US.
Nope but my parents also have never talked bad about them. But the thing is my parents also bought a Renault Espace 3 but that broke down in 2008(after 8 years) vowed to never own a Renault again but currently own a 2019 Renault Kadjar 1.3TCe, this one they got for very cheap and had has no major problems in the 5 years my parents have it(2nd hand from a Spanish rental company apparently and the car just didnt do wel there i guess since it only had about 5k km(3k miles).
The American market does currently still suffer from corporate differences that allowed Kia and Hyundai to sell cars for cheaper and that has caused problems that in Europe are unheard of for example the hack that gets access to the literal car by removing iirc the headlight.
It also depends heavily on the engine you get and what your standards are for something to be called bad
If you're looking at brand reliability up to 5 years old, polestar is right next to Mercedes at #23 while MG is indeed at the bottom. So I don't think it's fair to rank Chinese cars as terrible when that list you sourced doesn't name all the Chinese brands that are competitive with the western market when your opinion is based off of 2. I'm also unsure how much of Polestar is Chinese,
Nor is it fair when you have 7 other brands that are considered less reliable that aren't Chinese.
It should be noted that same list ranks cars like Audi as being far more reliable but it also states it has a model like the Q7 that's at 80%. They've mentioned this many times with other brands.
I hope you understand what I mean. Maybe overall all Chinese brands are worse, who knows. However there is insufficient data based on the findings of that survey.
I mean they can do it, but I have not researched the NIO's suspension to see if they're hydro-pneumatic like MB or other German cars. If they found a way to make it cheaper and make it more reliable, perfect!
Well, no. As much as I love them, the DS was obviously a reactive system, not a preventative/predictive system.
However, I doubt that the car in this post does anything that the new Taycan can’t do.
It's not a 'weird wheel' in the sense of rare or obscure, but, rather, new tech that quite literally creates a disconnect between the road and occupants of the car via the vehicle's wheels and suspension system.
i kinda doubt that tech ever makes it to use end users. all it takes is for one crucial part or one of the mag struts or whatever it is to break or not function properly and the vehicle is not going to be traveling in the intended direction. its cool for race cars though. it sounds kinda like what williams did in the early 90s in f1 for one year before they banned it.
Seriously. That's the feature I'm looking for.
Imagine sitting at a red light, car sloshing back and forth like a waterbed on prom night... "Sup?" Wiggle eyebrows.
Yeah sure, road-adjusting, totally not "young people can´t afford a house and live longer with their parents so they all gonna have sex in some car" markting ;=P
...it would be like having sex on the back of a sedated bull, and attract a whole lot of attention.
I don't think that's what this is for, but I have been in wrong 3 or 4 times.
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