US prepares for long war with China that might hit its bases, homeland: Peter Apps
Posted by therapistofcats@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 209 comments
Don't let the headline fear monger you. Nothing is certain but the article does a good job talking about how the US homeland/people aren't prepared for a war that will likely come to its shores in some way if there is a China conflict.
It also talks about contingencies that the US is working on.
Usual_Acanthaceae204@reddit
And Babylon falls in a day
HARDCORETHEBOAR@reddit
Dude obviously knows nothing about actual China, there is no way in hell they would be able to invade not with their economy. I lived in china and whatever propaganda you guys are reading is just not it
Significant_Donut967@reddit
You do realize the military has contingency upon contingency plans for everything right? Like if China was to invade mainland America they would struggle a lot.
It would be a very long and very bloody war.
TheColdestFeet@reddit
You realize China isn't stupid enough to attempt a land invasion of the US, right? China's "path to victory" would simply require blocking the US from choking them out through South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan. China's military strategy revolves around trying to establish and maintain military dominance in their home region. They might strike mainland US with weapons, but they neither have the means nor reason to attempt to actually occupy the US with troops. That would be suicidal.
stickysubstancex@reddit
Have you seen the obesity rate of the US? China would easily invade if they wanted.
TheColdestFeet@reddit
We also have the most guns per capita on earth. The US population, no matter how divided and unhealthy, would not peacefully submit to occupation by another power. American exceptionalism and gun culture alone make it nearly impossible to actually invade and occupy, at least imo.
ComprehensiveRush755@reddit
Same response as Native Americans to colonists.
JanelleVypr@reddit
I just wish our education system instilled more self-reliance in our population. I agree with you, but I also worry with how dependent on government and electricity my friends and family are. If we went to an actual shtf scenario, I fear that our exceptionalism will be one of our biggest weaknesses. We are very naive to truly hard times and I’m not sure if we would be capable of some of the things in the past.
I mean, imagine trench warfare or the Donner party? A strong country makes weak men kinda thing and I think we are a weak country with weak people right now. We’re soft, arguably the some of the softest in the world. How often do you hear people say ‘100k isn’t enough now a days’ like fuck off, people throughout history would literally kill you and your entire bloodline for a fraction of that
Hard times come next and it will harden whatever batch of people experience it, probably us. The initial shock will be insane
FracturedNomad@reddit
You realize what a contingency plan is, right?
Boel_Jarkley@reddit
I could see covert sabotage operations within the US as part of their strategy. The electrical grid is very vulnerable to physical attacks at substations.
Ok-Requirement-Goose@reddit
China produces our substation equipment, our plumbing, our solar panels, almost all of our grid components; even if they just refused to sell us parts moving forward we would be crippled.
Realistic_Young9008@reddit
There was a news story I read today about a kill switch being discovered in chinese-manufactured solar panels
Ok-Requirement-Goose@reddit
Yep! If we incentivized them enough, China has a thousand ways to leave us crippled without ever needing to bring boots to our shores.
MyFunAccount42069@reddit
It would be a grid down situation with clandestine actors already here in the US illegally and legally disabling key systems. Hell, last year an illegal chinese bio manufacturing plant was shut down and raided in Los Angeles. Look up chinese secret police harassing and disappearing their own citizens around the world. African nations are finally waking up and taking back the land and facilities china has tried to build and bribe locals with.
They wouldn't need a full scale invasion, just use the back doors built into every electronic item or system, send in the spies they already have here in the country again legally and illegally ( chinese have been stopped at the mexican border already). They are already deep in our power grid, buying land next to military bases, online disinformation, disabling internet and cell service casuing communication blackouts and panic across the nation, infiltrating key companies sending info back home.
They wouldnt need an invasion , theyd just need to cripple us hard enough we couldnt sustain a full on war anywhere, if the homeland is on fire you think we'd be ok on multiple fronts?
Wanted9867@reddit
There were books on this twenty years ago. Been known china has clandestine actors already installed countrywide here. Nobody gets how fucked we would be overnight. Country is utterly falling apart on a good day as it is, clandestine actors could basically cripple us as a part time job without much extra effort.
seefatchai@reddit
They'd attack the US from the comfort of their offices and then go home and laugh at the news of unfolding chaos in the US as we go feral due to toilet paper and water disruptions.
mark000@reddit
Sept 11, 2001?
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
They would literally need to wade their way through neighborhoods of fully stocked mini armory’s in everyone’s houses. Gorilla warfare is the worst kind to break and we are all armed to the teeth. Good-luck China lol
-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS-@reddit
And I think it might be the one single event that might actually somewhat ‘unite’ the US.
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
Oh lord, we would have no choice. There is one thing America is well known for…land ownership and thus protection of it. We’re built this way from birth 🤷🏼
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Look at Iraq and Vietnam. We didn't get our asses handed to us but we sure as fuck didn't win.
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
Those weren’t on US soil, and solely fought militarily. We’re talking land based attacks on US soil. Not even a close comparison my guy.
YeetedApple@reddit
What's great about this is the person you are responding just helped your argument without realizing it apparently. Iraq and Vietnam are perfect examples of why an invasion, and subsequent occupation, of America would never work. Like you said, how highly armed we are and the access to resources in general would feed an insurgency that would likely be unprecedented.
Add on the fact that any country trying to invade would have to deal with the US navy and air force on top of that level of insurgency, and it quickly becomes ridiculous to think an invasion would be a realistic situation.
BackgroundStatus9596@reddit
China would only need to knock out our grid, my guy. When the power goes out and food and fuel frozen, the U.S. will collapse. They don't need a single boot on the ground.
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
You donznt have a lot of military experience, does yuh?
Quiet-Jello6349@reddit
I’ve also read and watched multiple reports of how poor chinas military is. They haven’t been in a major military conflict in decades. There was an incident in Africa a few years ago where the UN Chinese military force was attacked and it was abysmal. Just one small story but we are the most practiced and experienced military force on the planet. I can’t imagine China invading us. They wage war in other ways
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
When was the last time the US fought a peer/near peer military? 20 years of hitting rock throwers with rockets hardly counts, it's completely different doctrine.
Quiet-Jello6349@reddit
Are you referring to china as near peer?
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
Yes
ArcturusRoot@reddit
You do realize the US military is grossly over confident in it's capabilities and got their asses handed to them by a bunch of illiterate yokels living in the dark ages?
flaming_burrito_@reddit
Tell that to the 100 to 1 casualty ratio in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t know why so many people somehow believe that losing a war politically means losing militarily. We have militarily stomped every country we’ve gone against since the Korean War. Which to be fair have all been much smaller nations except for China in Korea, and even when the Chinese pushed us back in Korea that casualty ratio was still heavily skewed towards them, they just outnumbered us. As it turns out, pure might doesn’t matter as much when you’re trying to perpetually occupy an area that doesn’t want to be occupied, or build up an unwanted government like in Afghanistan.
Significant_Donut967@reddit
You realize guerrilla warfare is an extremely difficult war to fight? Now think of it on our home turf as we're the embedded element then....
Hard to attack, easier to defend.
Joe_Stylin777@reddit
Great but insurgency doesn't go too well for the local population either. You will be dying in droves.
ScoreMajor2042@reddit
Are you serious? Mind you I think Iraq and Afghanistan were mostly failures due to a number of things but if the US is shit militarily then who isn't? Lmfao
Little_Drive_6042@reddit
Even going past the contingencies, the Chinese would have a terrible time even getting to Japan let alone all the way past the pacific to the freaking pacific part of the United States
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Spitting facts
Little_Drive_6042@reddit
This is also even assuming they could take Taiwan properly without hundreds of thousands of casualties in the first few months. The Chinese are the biggest paper tigers. The average medic in an American brigade has more experience than even top Chinese generals do.
In the recent India vs Pakistan conflict, Chinese missiles, used by Pakistan, were duds and their air defense systems given to Pakistan were neutralized by Indian strikes. The air defense systems China gave, called the HQ-9, was not the export versions either. It was the domestic use versions for their own military that was given to Pakistan which were easily neutralized. Chinese weaponry sucks and their military will likely be incompetent without proper experience.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
And has had them for 200 years. This entire post is a nothingburger.
josephrainer@reddit
Stop saying nothing burger it’s unbelievably cringe and annoying This is how I imagine you looking like as you say it: 🤓
Aramedlig@reddit
Did you even read the article? This is not click bait. This is war prep in the event China invades Taiwan. From the article:
“Earlier this month, U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Doug Wickert summoned nearby civic leaders to Edwards Air Force Base in California to warn them that if China attacks Taiwan in the coming years, they should be prepared for their immediate region to suffer potentially massive disruption from the very start.”
I wouldn’t put it past Trump to goad China into conflict, just to destroy the west coast.
stickysubstancex@reddit
California is the heavyweight of the U.S. economy. America is weak without it.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
Yes, I read it yesterday when it was posted to Worldnews and it was clickbait then too.
That quote means nothing. It’s not even saber rattling, it’s literally been standard military policy to have contingencies.
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
read it yesterday? Are you posting on the future? This article is from this morning. I don't even see it in worldnews. Perhaps you can post the link so we can all read that comment section?
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
It’s 1AM in Australia right now.
Also I was wrong, it was news not worldnews
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/s/kQSoTLTqiU
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
That was still posted only 3 hours ago.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
Idk why we’re talking about this instead of the content of the article, but you posted this on the 17th and they posted it on the 16th in my local time. Can you explain why that matters to you?
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
You dismissed it as having read it "yesterday". But the articles only been out a few hours. I guess you're just being pedantic about time zones. I suppose you could have just said "yes I read the article" but you intentionally used the word "yesterday". Which is odd. Cause that has nothing to do with what was said.
swish465@reddit
I don't know if I would engage with this person. Their account was made march 7th 2025, with high comment karma meaning it's probably a bot account. Whether it's a bot right now or if it's an actual person I don't know, but it doesn't seem like you're talking to a good faith account. I'd block and move on. That way he can't see your post as well. Your call though.
roger3rd@reddit
We had plans and contingencies for pandemic outbreaks but this knuckledragger potus botched that too
anis_mitnwrb@reddit
dude he was out of office less than a year after the pandemic started. and I got my first vaccine from the 101st airborne deployed to assist FEMA as part of "operation warp speed" at a stadium in my city in March 2021 (but had began in December 2021 for at-risk patients obviously). then once that ended and budget ran out (CARES Act funded it through the end of March 2021 I believe) Biden didn't do a damned thing and in fact rolled back every possible initiative to confront the lasting impact of COVID across the country
fuck Trump, of course. but in the literal prepper intel sub where we try and stay informed on things like a pandemic, don't spread misinformation like Biden was materially better than Trump for COVID. if we wanna say all recent presidents didn't do enough, fine. but don't single out Trump when Biden was legitimately just awful for COVID specifically
dude_abides_here@reddit
I would also like to take this opportunity to say fuck Trump as well.
irsh_@reddit
Equating Trump to Biden is disingenuous at best.
HiggsUAP@reddit
Exactly how long do you expect it to take for the President to respond to national emergencies ?
Boobpocket@reddit
Funny enough Trump is def responsible fot Vax and i actually didnt like how biden tried to brush away covid so quickly.
nasnedigonyat@reddit
Thank you for this cogent reply. Of course, fuck the wild trumpus in every case, but we don't need to be twisting the facts to make him look worse than he is.
Beautiful_Spite_3394@reddit
Yeah! One guy dismantled the system that helped prevent ebola spreading and eventually solving the crisis is the EXACT SAME THING as Biden when he increased spending, devoted money towards new groups towards covid and other diseases that will come next, all kinds of actually tangible things to help covid crisis as well as future crisis'... but hey they are the same! The exact same and keep on repeating it
MsCalendarsPlayaArt@reddit
What money did Biden put toward new groups regarding covid? I am genuinely asking
bcf623@reddit
Me when the only thing I read from nuanced criticism is bad = bad. Nobody said Trump and Biden were the same, they said Biden dropped the ball in very tangible ways.
Itsavanlifer@reddit
Yes, he was out within a year. And yes, operation warp speed was probably the best thing he did in office.
That all said, he set the tone for the pandemic in America. He told us it was the flu. He told us it would be gone by April (like a miracle, it will disappear.) He took absolutely zero responsibility for the hundreds of thousands of deaths under his watch (where does the buck stop again?) All while he knew exactly what the reality was. Go listen to the Woodward tapes where Trump explicitly stated he knew how bad this was going to be. He used it to divide us and put further question on science and medicine.
We don’t need to bring Biden in as a comparison. It’s irrelevant.
seefatchai@reddit
Don't know why Biden didn't reconstitute the NSC pandemic response task force either.
Effective-Ebb-2805@reddit
Indeed... Like old King Midas. Except, instead of turning everything he touches into gold, everything Trump touches seems to turn into the most rancid shit. A superpower of sorts... Legendary! And WE are the lucky ones that get to reap the "fruits" of his miraculous touch... Yay, us!
TwoTerabyte@reddit
Attacks have already begun from satellites in low earth orbit. The NIA has done briefings telling high level people to avoid being caught in the open.
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Sauce?
TwoTerabyte@reddit
Stuffs getting scrubbed and that is frustrating
https://www.nia.gov.in/writereaddata/Portal/CitizenForum/1403_1_Remote_Neural_Monitoring.pdf
https://defenseopinion.com/addressing-americas-military-space-race-vulnerabilities/852/
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Tango mike
TwoTerabyte@reddit
Stuffs getting scrubbed and that is frustrating
https://www.nia.gov.in/writereaddata/Portal/CitizenForum/1403_1_Remote_Neural_Monitoring.pdf
https://defenseopinion.com/addressing-americas-military-space-race-vulnerabilities/852/
Soci3talCollaps3@reddit
Are you trying to cheer us up with this "long and very bloody war"?
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Just realistic to what guerilla warfare is.
Professional_Photo54@reddit
I think invasion is a slim to none possibility, it will effect us in different manners. Likely a massive bolstering of US troops which could involve recall of previously retired vets or even a draft depending on the scale. Then the economic/ trade aspects. I believe we get a lot medicine from China and that could play a huge factor as well
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Oh no doubt, economically we're far too intertwined to be okay with a full scale war.
I'm glad I'm too fucked up to get recalled. Totally and permanently disabled, yay army.
Nearby-Exercise-7371@reddit
I’m starting to think we straight up don’t
DashboardError@reddit
You'd be incorrect
salami_on_a_bagel@reddit
Lol and also lmao you do realize who is in charge of the Department of Defense right
gr8harm@reddit
China doesn't have the amphib capability to invade the US. They have a great shore and brown water navy but struggle on the blue water navy front.
kingofthesofas@reddit
Yes this is true. I don't think the US would be able to invade China due to the massive scale of it even with its huge amphibious capacity and likewise China is not capable of invading the US because it doesn't even have close to enough. That being said both sides are capable of striking each other's home territory with a variety of weapon systems so we would see missile and drone strikes on the US mainland for sure.
gr8harm@reddit
100% agree
Simur1@reddit
There was no contingency for a full political takeover by foreign assets, so my guess is, US contingency plans are wet paper and not much more sophisticated than mkultra and the plots to kill Fidel Castro.
fairmaiden34@reddit
Hasn't the president replaced top military officials with less qualified MAGA worshippers?
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Yeah, doesn't mean pvt snuffy is gonna shoot their neighbor. I called out my share of seniors while I was in. I remember pissing of an e8 cause I wouldn't let him take deadlined short m249 barrels. Dude went to csm and came told him what I say goes due to my history with keeping that shit in order.
daneazyc@reddit
I can’t imagine them getting past California
Hawkeye3636@reddit
Crazy part is hitting our bases even in the US is not the goal it's the distraction they want to cause chaos and then Blitz Taiwan. Once they have that they can go into a game of stalemate for awhile then negotiate a ceasefire. It's a win for them. They suspect we won't have the stomach for a protracted conflict and I am not sure they are wrong.
bigkoi@reddit
Exactly. Also logistics of sending a fleet across the Pacific to land in North America...
Snark_Connoisseur@reddit
Yeah but if you make Canada the 51st state and Invade and take over Greenland, then you have the Northwest Passage and all the sea up there to travel unfettered across. I deadass think in Trumps mind that makes sense to him. Just clear the way across easy peasy.
bigkoi@reddit
Claiming Greenland and Canada is more about claiming any natural resources in the Arctic Ocean.
We already have a space force base in Greenland and can enforce air supremacy over the passage. Also there is absolutely no way a force could go over land across most of North Canada.
Snark_Connoisseur@reddit
I know it's not logical. You know it's not logical. I don't think Trump exists in the shared reality you and I experience.
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Does Russia have rail lines up towards Alaska? And have you seen the massive landing docks they've got going on?
GuiltyYams@reddit
I haven't seen the landing dock - got a link, or keyword to Google?
Significant_Donut967@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/cip0cQPerI
bigkoi@reddit
Those roads through Alaska...
Good luck at holding in Alaska after you land.
StrengthMedium@reddit
The article says nothing about an invasion.
DigitalBreadLines@reddit
Yeah, the guns per capita in the Midwest would thwart them. 😂
Significant_Donut967@reddit
You're right, I forgot the military would never ever use local geography to embed itself more.
Calibrated-Lobster@reddit
Yup, all these gun nuts in Houston Texas would have a holiday. It’d be straight up gorilla warfare in the suburbs against a bunch of heavily armed militias and cowboys, half of which have military training.
Sqweech@reddit
Trump/MAGA are flushing the USA. Russian cucks aren't going to defeat China.
Lora_Grim@reddit
Hmm. Gotta invade Mexico and annex Canada first. Europe also needs to invade the middle east before The Great War event can be triggered.
Comfortable_Wafer_40@reddit
Yes, the headline is saying something that we’ve been preparing for a long time in the military. We know it will hit home one day.
EKcore@reddit
A billion Chinese all with loyalty that their government has built through social investment and making sure their population is taken care of?
I see no such loyalty in America, where you are in your own.
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
Exactly. As a millennial who has never seen prosperity, why the fuck would we get up and fight? The country has literally just gotten worse our entire lives, a Chinese occupation would probably be a welcome change.
EKcore@reddit
What are they gonna do? make us work until we drop dead with no benefits?
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
They'll give us healthcare and infrastructure, so awful!
mymyohry@reddit
China will never give that to you. Don’t be a fool
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
...they gave that to a billion of their own citizens though.
BWest829@reddit
Yeah but we wouldn’t be their citizens. We’d be there slaves.
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
And we're not now?! lol
BWest829@reddit
Not really. What it would end up being would be a colonialism type subjugation. Like we had over the Philippians. They don’t have that kind of control here in the US.
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
Subjugation like being paid dirt wages to make rich people more rich with no healthcare or vacation? Sounds familiar.
BWest829@reddit
That’s our own country doing that. Under CCP it would end up worse. I don’t like where we are as a country but remember it can always get worse. And welcoming an invading force never ends well for those who collaborate or even passively let them do what they want. You should look into CCP domestic policies. You’d find that even though we are heading to a lot of what they already do there we are not there yet.
mountaindewisamazing@reddit
I don't know if you've been paying attention but as of January this year the US is an authoritarian state just like China. It will continue to get worse, as it has for decades. Just a lot faster.
BWest829@reddit
I have been paying attention. But we still can protest. We still own guns. Wouldn’t be the same with the CCP.
TrickMasterTre@reddit
This is the most insane thing I have ever seen or read. You don’t understand the privilege we have here in the US if you think the Chinese government is a better choice. Incredible
Ok-Yogurt-5552@reddit
Lol. Tell me you don’t know anything about China without telling me.
Little_Drive_6042@reddit
This has to be the most asinine take I’ve ever seen. War against America is the one time Americans have always been unified. Regardless of which party is in power. The Chinese have a bunch of corruption on the levels of Russia and they would sell high class military equipment for money. Some loyalty.
sharpafm8@reddit
You spelled propaganda and censorship wrong
EKcore@reddit
As opposed to the American regime right now?
Somethingsadsosad@reddit
Homogenous vs minority majority
Joe_Stylin777@reddit
Correct. I'd say there's a solid chunk of people who probably wouldn't give a fuck and an even smaller group who'd openly collaborate.
Nearby-Exercise-7371@reddit
Exactly. People are thinking about this very incorrectly here…very blinded by patriotism. We must think clearly and rationally to be properly prepared.
BibendumsBitch@reddit
Why would they go to war now and then get us acting as a cohesive nation again. If we went to war and Trump was still acting the way he is, republicans won’t hesitate to impeach him for a better chance.
Him acting like a buffoon and tweeting about Taylor swift while fighting another country would make for a quick change at president one way or another.
There’s no benefit for why any country to attack us while we are being dismantled just fine from the top down personally.
BWest829@reddit
I actually agree with you that any attack here would be a unifying force in the country. My fear is there is an attack but the ones in charge attribute it to the other political side opposed to the outside force.
TheAwsomeReditor@reddit
Honestly the main reason i voted for trump was because hes a hard counter to china he doesnt like china so im happy that we have him as president and not someone else its going to be an awsome 4yrs if china trys anything then rip them honestly
BWest829@reddit
Do you think trumps policies are going to help us in a conflict with China if he constantly trying to shake up the military leadership and dividing the countries population more and more with so many controversial decisions. I understand your logic and agree we need a strong counter balance to China but by eliminating US soft power and alienating our allies I just don’t know if that is helpful when thinking of a future conflict.
mark000@reddit
LOL. Clueless. The global financial system would meltdown on day one FFS. Chaotic anarchy everywhere.
willsidney341@reddit
Why bother with a large scale invasion when all they have to do is manipulate 47 into shitcanning our economy? Chinas already made it clear they’re willing to play the long game to shut us out of global financial dominance. They’ve made it clear that a 200 year time span is nothing to them, while our legislators can’t think past an 8-hour news cycle.
unsurewhatiteration@reddit
They say this, and I think the do believe it, but this is a government that is less than 100 years old. On some level they know they won't be around forever, and geopolitical realities could force their hand at any time. The US recognizes this eventuality and has been planning for it.
AnomalyNexus@reddit
You don't need 100+ year plus history to have a 200 year horizon.
Just a system that is a long chain of
And I fear their setup is better suited to that than regular elections that swing back and forth between policy direction
Crocs_n_Glocks@reddit
They don't have that much time....have you ever looked into their social welfare system? It makes the US look like Europe.
unsurewhatiteration@reddit
Also fair. Ultimately, the time horizons involved are too large for any of us to ever really know how it plays out. Interesting to speculate about though.
josephrainer@reddit
Exactly. The USA has a giant hammer (military) and thinks every situation will involve a nail (war)
willsidney341@reddit
The government, sure, but china’s one of those places that leans heavily on their history and culture for national pride, rather than their institutions.
unsurewhatiteration@reddit
National pride is not the same thing as long-term strategy. The current nation was the result of a bloody civil war, and even once the CCP solidified its power it still managed to kill tens of millions of its own people through incompetence. More recently, scholars have noted that Xi has overseen a rather sharp shift in the general direction of policy (Tai Ming Cheung wrote the most recent book I've read on the topic if you want to see some of the arguments in detail).
None of this is bad, it's just evidence that China's talk of a millennia-long unbroken continuity is propaganda. They are like any other country: regimes change or die and long-term plans can get derailed. Xi is trying his absolute damndest to make sure this doesn't occur on his watch, but it cuts both ways. The level of personalization of institutions required to get that much unity also makes them more prone to losing focus when he eventually kicks the bucket.
I can't predict the future, and the time scales involved are too long for either of us to ever know if I'm right anyway, but I just don't think that China in 100 years is going to have the same goals or the same methods to achieve them as they do today.
KillahHills10304@reddit
And financially all we think about is next quarter. It's the root cause of the vast majority of the issues in the west.
PapayaMysterious6393@reddit
And neither can the voters.
Relative_Business_81@reddit
Hey, if they could read they would be very upset.
josephrainer@reddit
Exactly. The USA has a giant hammer (military) and thinks every situation will involve a nail (war)
RossCollinsRDT@reddit
This! Everyone is bent out of shape over tariffs. This should be seen as a warning. We are far too dependent on an aggressive nation that has a huge military budget.
deviationblue@reddit
"of course i know him, he's me!"
RossCollinsRDT@reddit
Right you think we would know better. Can't bully third world countries if China buys them.
Pleasant-Trifle-4145@reddit
I don't think they're referring to a large scale invasion, but missile and air strikes and sabotage etc.
FracturedNomad@reddit
At this point, with this administration, I'm not even sure we could beat canada.
KeepItASecretok@reddit
I would welcome the Chinese forces
PenImpossible874@reddit
Xi isn't dumb enough to attack America
Calm-Ad-2155@reddit
The Chinese bought up farmland around a ton of our bases from the Midwest through the west coast. The idea is that they could have biological agents ready to be disseminated, or sound wave weapons to take be able to incapacitate those bases, but nobody knows for sure.
joe_coleco@reddit
Neat. Cap my ass first. I'm tired, boss.
marioncrepes@reddit
My sailor has been saying things like this for some time now. The only easy day was yesterday...
Huckedsquirrel1@reddit
Tell him to quit and get a normal job that doesn’t put him in the line of fire in a stupid war to defend some islands and oil
Material_Policy6327@reddit
I thought GOP keeps saying they don’t want to get involved in international affairs…yet they started Iraq with sales evidence../
No_Detail9259@reddit
China will win. All they do is not show up to a US bond sale, not buy our debt and the stocks drop by 50%. A financial nuke, if you will. That 36 trillion in debt is a dagger at our loins.
anonmdoc@reddit
The treasury market exposed how much the US can be controlled by other countries. Wild thing to learn.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
I mean, if you just learned how the bond market works this year, that’s kinda on you.
terrierhead@reddit
Easy there. You weren’t born knowing this stuff. Most people still don’t know how the bond market works. It’s an unknown unknown for them - they have no clue that it’s even a thing.
terrierhead@reddit
Easy there. You weren’t born knowing this stuff. Most people still don’t know how the bond market works. It’s an unknown unknown for them - they have no clue that it’s even a thing.
anonmdoc@reddit
I had a surface level understanding of the bond market due to running FOREX. I dove in deeper once Japan and China started hinting at sell offs.
I’m humble and enough to admit when I don’t know something. I hope you are the same.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
I mean, that’s on you if you just learned how the bond market works.
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
Lol the only thing China has more of is people. The US is at the height of its power and might. I can assure you, in an all out land battle war, that the Chinese simply not buying bonds to tank stocks is not a concern lol
Nearby-Exercise-7371@reddit
“The height of its power”….surely you are joking?
Positive_Living_4025@reddit
You haven’t been out of the states much, have you.
Grubbyninja@reddit
Kind of crazy we let this happen, China is playing the long game
tacoenthusiast@reddit
I'm sure if there's cause for concern I'll be added to the Signal chat.
TotalRecallsABitch@reddit
I used to follow the Hybrid Center of Excellence, which is a risk assessment think tank based in Helsinki.
They predicted the incursion of Russia and they touch on China. They know their stuff
PersiusAlloy@reddit
Big lol @ Chinese Invasion of our homeland. I mean I wouldn't mind getting some Chinese digital nods to sell, some PLA souvenirs too.
BornAPunk@reddit
With Trump in the White House, no one will have to worry about a thing. The man is scared half to death of war and blood and sweat.
Constant_Mud7080@reddit
Hey US, how about you focus on your internal problems instead of projecting them externally?
Seattle_gldr_rdr@reddit
It feels like US civil society is so fragile now that even a handful of conventional cruise missiles hitting the mainland would tip us over into martial law meltdown. I watched the Netflix doc about Britain during the Blitz and I had to lol at the idea of modern Americans behaving with similar collective discipline & fortitude.
here4daratio@reddit
Handful?
That’s generous.
Only takes one.
Seattle_gldr_rdr@reddit
I'm trying to be optimistic..? lol
Antares_B@reddit
brain rot. the US has bases all over the world. this is propaganda.
unmasteredDub@reddit
Contingency plans are by definition not strategy. And unfortunately the US hasnt been strategic in the Pacific for about 10 years now.
onyoursidee@reddit
Why would they ever do a hot war with us when the current administration is literally ceding all of our global influence to them (seeing as they're the closest thing to a superpower after us).
The oceans and culture of the US would be impossible to occupy short of a global coalition against us. Most they can do is probably orbital strikes of some kind while waiting for us to try to take back captured territory abroad.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
It's inevitable. They are already implementing malware into our power grid to cut our energy off and hacking phones and sensitive data and tech. The biggest threat is their growth . For every 1 ship we build they build 335. By 2030 they will outnumber us significantly on every battle front. Air land and sea.
Significant_Donut967@reddit
Their quality is worse than our "military grade" though.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
Quality doesn't matter when you're outnumbered 300 to 1.
totallynotalt345@reddit
Ships are becoming useless when drones can take them out.
Going to be wild when someone sends tens of thousands of drones into battle.
No_Programmer_5352@reddit
"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible"-Lord Kelvin, 1895.
The failure of imagination expressed by this comment specifically, and on this post in general is disconcerting.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
You are the Almighty. The one that can take on millions.
You don't think they manufacture drones by the millions?
No_Programmer_5352@reddit
The tank is useless now.
The aircraft carrier is useless now.
The atom bomb will make war obsolete.
The machine-gun will make war obsolete.
Noticing a trend here? That is my point.
It's not about whether they can or can't manufacture that many, especially since Ukraine and Russia are making around six million a year. That said, the success rate is extremely low, in the single-digit percentage. Those systems are also very short-ranged for the most part, quadcopter made to attack a tank is not even close to the same thing made to fly 500+ miles and evade/suppress the defenses of a destroyer squadron that is literally knocking them out of the sky by turning up the radar array. A better use of those drones would be to buy some stateside, go to a park near an airbase, and have the drones just fly into expensive air frames or fly into the engines on takeoff/landing. Or use facial recognition and social media to follow pilots/servicemembers home or attack railways made to transport heavy equipment to ports, or hack cranes in ports/cargo ships.
But nah, enjoy your sarcasm and short-sightedness about how warships are becoming useless on the planet that is 70% water.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
300 to 1 was my argument. Nothing more. They will more than double our abilities in the years to come. You have really lost your mind if you think we're prepared for the Chinese.
No_Programmer_5352@reddit
I don't think so, I think the US is underprepared and vulnerable to a point that almost everyone here is simply so far removed from they can't even begin to understand or think creatively about it.
That said, the assertion of the person I was replying to that warships are useless now also demonstrates a failure of imagination as well as being grossly mis/dis/underinformed.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
I'm just stating facts. Why would the u.s. try to limit the sale of microchips to them? To hinder their success. To slow them down. Because higher up they know. When you're outnumbered outsmarted and outgunned. It's no good. Now In our defense. Their quality is poor. Ever worked in assembly. Sometimes you have to debate about quantity over quality and vice versa. Quality of course lasts longer but not at that alarming ratio. It's like Mike Tyson vs 300 crackheads. He's gonna get a few. But eventually he will wear down.
No_Programmer_5352@reddit
Are you meaning to actually reply to me or do you just like the sound of the keyboard?
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
If they come from the west which they would. We have Taiwan island . Japan island. South Korea. And that's not enough to prevent them from reaching our shores. Bet that. Power comes in numbers, that's China alone. BRICS partnership is Russia China and India . Now trump has slowed down aggression with Russia. Maybe they are not that useful for navy strength. But let's say China alone. Without Russia and India. Which is binding obligation. The whole West Coast is smoked. I don't see why they wouldn't. If I'm a country big country like China and there's this one country across the world thinking they can implement international law and have their ships come right up to the coast all around the world but the one time I get aggressive they want to respond. I'd feel tied down. So yeah they're gonna buck. Thing is they are gonna wait till the numbers are right. We want to hit while the numbers are low. In China all the blueprints that go to the manufacturing companies like apple they steal the tech that's how they've kept up. But their schooling is leagues above us as Americans. We're ranked 40 out of 40 countries literally the dumbest country. The Chinese are thorough and strategic. We will have our hands full dealing with them .
awwhorseshit@reddit
The ships are small ships which can’t get to blue water. Our ships are fully functional and can sail anywhere.
Prestigious_Fly_6176@reddit
Keep believing the bs. Buddy. I don't care the quality of what you have when you're outnumbered 300 to 1. You will always lose. 300 dildos vs your 1 dick. You lose. Every time. Take note.
presaging@reddit
Do keep in mind that Reuters is Russian state media.
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
That's not exactly true or current.
Partnership with TASS edit
On 1 June 2020, Reuters announced that Russian news agency TASS had joined its "Reuters Connect" programme, comprising a then-total of 18 partner agencies. Reuters president Michael Friedenberg said he was "delighted that TASS and Reuters are building upon our valued partnership."[73] Two years later, TASS's membership in Reuters Connect came under scrutiny in the wake of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine; Politico reported that Reuters staff members were "frustrated and embarrassed" that their agency had not suspended its partnership with TASS.[74]
On 23 March 2022, Reuters removed TASS from its "content marketplace." Matthew Keen, interim CEO of Reuters said "we believe making TASS content available on Reuters Connect is not aligned with the Thomson Reuters Trust Principles."[75]
Here is some information on what connect is so you can be educated in the future.
https://pressgazette.co.uk/platforms/reuters-connect-platform-profile/
presaging@reddit
Thanks I had done the research before 2022 and was operating on an old operand, thank you for updating me.
Historical_Smoke_661@reddit
wait till they find out every american is armed
Reeko_Htown@reddit
Wait till you find out China can turn a few bottoms on Tik Tok and turn armed Americans on each other
Historical_Smoke_661@reddit
pffftt such a imaginative mind 🤣🤣🤣
DankMastaDurbin@reddit
You truly underestimate how many Americans are exhausted from unfettered capitalism.
It won't be a foreign nation that bring down US imperialism/neoliberalism.
GaslovIsHere@reddit
It will be a foreign nation that weakens the US enough that the whole country devolves into sectarian violence.
Historical_Smoke_661@reddit
idk wats goin on im just talkin shit😂
Infinite-Anything-55@reddit
Lazy troll is lazy
DankMastaDurbin@reddit
Also fair haha, all I gotta say is ain't no war like the class war.
TofuLordSeitan666@reddit
I guess you haven’t been paying attention lately.
biggesthumb@reddit
Rofl
Historical_Smoke_661@reddit
u mean crying on the floor
biggesthumb@reddit
Cotfl
therapistofcats@reddit (OP)
Yeah I am sure memaws 22lr will shoot down that ballistic missile targeting a manufacturing plant.
razorthick_@reddit
Just finished a few videos about how kids in American schools can barely read, are rude and abusive in the classroom and just dont care about anything.
War doesn't have to just be military vs military. An enemy state can do harm to the opponents population in other ways.
hurcoman@reddit
I guarantee you that all these contingencies were uploaded directly to CCCP servers, most likely via starlink. Some Chinese company with no revenue just bought two billion dollars in Trump’s crypto scam coin.
SmartTime@reddit
Good thing were proactively provoking conflict. These are just the people you’d want in charge if shit hits the fan. We’d be cooked even if we eventually won.
4peaks2spheres@reddit
Haha if China wanted to fuck up the USA it could, but it wouldn't be in the interest of its people, so they won't do it. China really out here advancing socialism 💪🏽😤
Buerkle2130@reddit
https://youtu.be/BubAF7KSs64?si=_VH46hO6zCHhf2Li
PrepperBoi@reddit
Non paywall version: http://archive.today/baaTo
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
This is not worth posting and clearly you know that from your comment.
ScoreMajor2042@reddit
Why? He labeled it as the article is written by reuteurs and it has decent info in it? He added context, which I appreciated lol
anonmdoc@reddit
They just don’t like it and felt the need to express their emotions.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
Did you read the article? Because it just says that this is standard planning regarding Taiwan.
EtalusEnthusiast420@reddit
Because this is standard US military behavior. We don’t need a new post every time they run an exercise and, if you read that article you mentioned, you would know that.