When do Brits actually dress up? I feel like I’m ALWAYS overdressed for things!
Posted by Spiritual_Egg3900@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 753 comments
I've lived in the UK (London) for a while now, but the longer I live here, the more confused I get about the dress etiquette for specific events...
For a bit of context, maybe unnecessary, I was born in Eastern Europe, where it's pretty normal to dress slightly more formally for weddings, baptisms, Christmas, someone's birthday, etc. Of course, it depends on the family, but generally, women tend to wear a bit of makeup (if they usually do) and dresses with heels or sandals for Summer, and men usually wear nicer shirts. Here? I see that happening less and less, and I'm starting to wonder if I'm committing a serious faux pas with my fashion choices. Some examples:
- I was invited by friends to Christmas dinner last December, and I wore a long black turtleneck dress -absolutely nothing outrageous- but then both hosts were wearing hoodies and tracksuit bottoms. I felt pretty stupid.
- I was invited by my boyfriend's family for Easter, which also doubled as a celebration for his father's birthday. I thought it would be a bit more formal considering the number of guests. Everyone (ten people total), except his mum and me, wore the type of 'house clothes' you'd wear when you want to be comfortable. Again, I felt a bit silly, like I was trying to draw attention to myself, even though I genuinely expected everyone would be at least smart-casual.
- Another Easter celebration, from my British side of the family, they were also wearing hoodies during Easter dinner.
- Two years ago, I attended two weddings where the dress code wasn't specified, and I swear, on both occasions, I had more makeup and jewellery on than the brides and their bridesmaids. Some men even wore polo shirts. As a plus-one who didn't know anyone, I felt ridiculous and people definitely stared, despite the fact that I always try to avoid looking tacky.
There have been many more examples, like going to live music events at nicer venues, where I'd assume people would want to look cute and dress up a bit. However, I often see people in hoodies and casual tops. I'll admit I'm a bit vain, I like my mascara and my heels - that's just how I was raised - but I simply don't feel comfortable always being the most overdressed person in the room. I've definitely toned it down over the years, for instance, I stopped doing my hair and I skip jewellery, but it seems like everyone else is being even more casual. I've spoken to my European friends about this, and they said it might not be a national issue but rather the type of circles I'm currently surrounded by.
For the record, I'm not well-off at all, I shop at charity shops and in second-hands. Most people I've mentioned here would be considered middle class.
So now I'm just really curious - is this entirely a British thing? Do Brits ever dress up? Am I misunderstanding social etiquette?
Chargerado@reddit
You’re hanging out with riff raff.
m1nkeh@reddit
This should be upvoted to the top.. you are hanging out people that don’t care. Sorry to say but you need to up your game if these are circles your bf moves in.
This would absolutely not happen at a Christmas is my house.. ironed shirt at the very least!
ThunderThighsChun-li@reddit
Apparently me and my whole family is riff raff in your eyes
MMSTINGRAY@reddit
These threads are full of idiots with sad little lives who need to feel better about themselves so obsess over the irrelevant minutiae of life in an effort to feel better. Don't worry about it. You and your family are fine.
Apparently the "cultured" people haven't learned the basic lesson of live and let live, and also think dressing up for an event if more important than enjoying your time with friends or family. If you made fun of them they would be confused or offended that you are judging how they enjoy their personal time, but making fun of you is fine apparently. One person said "you need to move in better circles" to OP, well I'd take the people who eat an Easter meal in casual clothes over the ones with a stick wedged up their arse anyday. Jesus wept.
There's nothing wrong with dressing down or dressing up, let people do what they want, it hruts nobody eitherway.
Chatpetit2000@reddit
Or maybe it’s just nice to make an effort, and respect the occasion, the people you are with?
MMSTINGRAY@reddit
As I said there's nothing wrong with dressing down or dressing up, let people do what they want, it hurts nobody eitherway.
The issue isn't people liking to do either, it's one group saying the other group are terrible. Live and let live.
boostman@reddit
Well, have you considered that maybe you are?
Slyspy006@reddit
Your dress code may be as incorrect as your grammar!
ThunderThighsChun-li@reddit
Looks down at me half naked with a hole in my boxers
..
:(
Vivid-Smell-6375@reddit
I find myself majorly unsurprised that r/AskUK is full of classist wankers tbh
illarionds@reddit
I do put on a shirt for Christmas - but ironed? That's crazy talk.
Fixyourback@reddit
Do you not iron all of your shirts?
illarionds@reddit
Last time I ironed a shirt was for my dad's funeral. Time before that, another funeral. Probably twice in total in 2024.
Fixyourback@reddit
Sorry for your loss.
But yeah after hang drying we basically give everything an iron
sideone@reddit
I don't iron my shirts. On the very odd occasion that I'm wearing a suit, I'll get it dry cleaned and pressed and ask them to press my shirt at the same time. Its usually about £1 for a shirt.
m1nkeh@reddit
I use a little hand steamer tbh.. the real key is how you dry and then store them!
OverallResolve@reddit
Out of curiosity, why? It feels so arbitrary
m1nkeh@reddit
Hmm.. it's not at all arbitrary, which essentially means "at random", or similar.
Christmas, Easter, weddings, Etc. are special occaisions! That is the "reason" and therfore not at all arbirary 😊
At a special occaisions, it is typical that people make a special effort..
From my own personal perspective.. when I am in my own home personally I usually wear jeans an t-shirt. Therefore, at a special occaision i might switch to trousers and a shirt, just taking it up one level.
You do you man, but it's not arbitrary!
OverallResolve@reddit
The degree to which those occasions are special is variable, and the idea that one should dress up for a special occasion is arbitrary in my opinion, it’s certainly not functional. The degree to which special effort is considered required with respect to appearance is not consistent with other dimensions in which effort people could put in.
My point is - there’s no real reason behind dressing up for anything other than some element of social pressure. Most people do not take their faith all that seriously in the U.K. yet we are saying we need to dress up on a certain day because it is a ‘special occasion’.
MMSTINGRAY@reddit
Why do they need to up their game?
DoubleA-Side@reddit
Is it even Christmas if you don't put on your best frock to hang out in the kitchen?
AudioLlama@reddit
I can't tell if this is parody or not.
TeHNeutral@reddit
That's what it's all about is it, a crisp ironed shirt?
m1nkeh@reddit
Haha yeah.. nothing below 😂
Milky_Finger@reddit
How do you get your shirt so clean?
DeinOnkelFred@reddit
How would I know? I'm not the borough. I wish I was, but...
TuMek3@reddit
The day I found out that I’m riff raff for not wearing a suit on Easter of Christmas 😭
NevynTheFirst@reddit
Not for "not wearing a suit at Christmas ", but for "not dressing up a bit when you are invited to a special event at Christmas ". "Christmas at home with close family" in my home means hanging out in pyjamas or onesies til lunch, and looking however you want. But if you invite people to dinner, or are invited as guests, you get properly cleaned up first and as a basic level of respect that means making a bit more of an effort with your appearance than your usual day to day attire.
dprkicbm@reddit
Glad someone else said it!
diff-int@reddit
Right?!
"I went with my friend to ALDI and she was wearing her dressing gown"
Shit_Head_4000@reddit
Chavs
OverallResolve@reddit
Classism and askUK, name a better duo
Milky_Finger@reddit
Polo shirts at weddings. I think we've gone from "I like the moments where I get to dress up" to "I know this is a dress up situation but if we all agree not to bother, we will be better off for it"
Sometimes dressing up a bit is not as comfortable as a polo shirt at a wedding, but you bloody do it anyway because you're attending 2 people getting married. You're going to be in pictures and this stuff matters.
AmorphousBlob-0001@reddit
Don't get this at all! I always thought dressing up is just for you, as in people do it because it's fun. It's not fun for me and I don't normally bother, I had no idea that would upset other people I'm with until reading this thread!
arrpix@reddit
Our clothing is one of if not the main signifier to other people of who we are and what we think (before we open our mouths.) Some people take that more seriously than others, but when it comes to formal or important events that matter to others, this is why we wesr formal clothing. Dressing up signifies effort, expense, care, and that an event is being treated as important and serious. It also shows the person the event is for matters to the attendee - I dress up for weddings and I will put more effort into weddings of those I care about because I want to show them I care about their special day, and by extension their future happiness. Wearing something a little uncomfortable tells them I care enough about them to put them above my temporary discomfort (which is also why not dressing up is seen as rude or narcissistic.)
TrustyRambone@reddit
I always go by the rule that it's better to turn up dressed too formal than too casual.
You can always take off a tie, unbutton the shirt, roll up the sleeves.
Can't do much about a faded Pantera t-shirt.
ManicPixiRiotGrrrl@reddit
you had no idea that it’s rude to wear a polo to a formal wedding?
AmorphousBlob-0001@reddit
Should have specified, weddings excepted
Viking-Bastard-XIV@reddit
Yep. This is it.
pickonepicktwo@reddit
See I would've assumed they were just upper classes farm types who don't do formal
Southern-Ad4477@reddit
Then it wouldn't be hoodies, it would be Schoffel Gilets, chino shorts, and Le Chameau wellies everywhere
pickonepicktwo@reddit
Maybe tech/finance bro type families then perhaps
Too much money to worry about dressing to impressing
pizzaosaurs@reddit
This is my guess. Finance still dress to impress but tech and seo is definitely seeing a shift in being able to just wear a hoodie and get away with it.
Plugged_in_Baby@reddit
SEO is its own social strata now?
pizzaosaurs@reddit
I remember the plaid shirt counting days and then the bitch and stitch trend. Yeap about the red heels though - it's a thing with my group of friends talking about how there is a growing trend and pressure to join in. I don't know, I've stuck in-house for charities so I don't have to network like they do but yea apparently it's a thing that my friend went out and got a pair just to help with networking in that niche of women in SEO
Plugged_in_Baby@reddit
Upper class farm types would not be seen dead in Le Chameau wellies. Dunlop from the local farming supply shop all the way.
Crabbies92@reddit
It could very well be Jack Wills hoodies and the like
Fair_Effect4532@reddit
Upvoted. This is the answer! I feel OP fully, coming from Central Europe and in my circles my pet peeve is if you can’t follow the dress code. I have strict dress code to my events if I’m the host and I don’t mind being an ass and highlight many many times what the dress code is. No Christmas dinner in joggings, you go upstairs and dress up. But the crowd we hang out with is the same and it’s occasional newbies that need a bit of a nudge. Even to friends and family gents are in ironed shirts and I wear a skirt with heels & a bag. I don’t think we own joggings tho apart from my 2 trousers for the gym😅
Tattycakes@reddit
Street rat!
Wavesmith@reddit
That’s it.
Pedanticandiknowit@reddit
Or very posh people
SimoneLewis@reddit
This is the only correct answer!
catsnstuff17@reddit
This is the answer 😂
linuxrogue@reddit
Absolutely agree!
Recsq@reddit
Ew. Bloody awful people
Blackbird04@reddit
I attended a funeral earlier this week and someone turned up in jeans, trainers and a t shirt. The lady who passed did ask that people wear purple so it wasn't too much of a depressing occasion, but I'd still generally expect people to dress more formally for a funeral unless otherwise specified. I think its a sign of the times.
Only_Tip9560@reddit
Basically unless it is the coronation it is onesies all round .
West_Inside_3112@reddit
Ooh, some of them think they do dress up, just not not in a style you recognise as such.;)
Savings_Science5786@reddit
You’re hanging around with the wrong people.
Own_Divide262@reddit
keep doing it. you can never be overdressed in my opinion and the hoodie crew are just boring
Sinnistrall@reddit
A lot of this does sound overly informal by typical British standards. If we were having an extended family meal we'd generally wear something smart casual, and I've never been to a wedding and not worn a suit and tie.
InfiniteDjest@reddit
I maintain that men over 30 wearing tracksuit bottoms in company (outside of sport etc) is a sign of having given up on life.
No-Meeting-7955@reddit
Even if they’re wearing tracksuits that cost north of £600 and drive cars worth more than their houses ?
InfiniteDjest@reddit
Oh, definitely
LowManufacturer435@reddit
Same. Athough, I went to a wedding once where half the guests were wearing jeans and one guy was in a tracksuit, which surprised me, I must admit. But it was in Halifax, so...
Odd-Quail01@reddit
I went to a summer wedding in Wakefield, where my side accidentally coordinated, all in taupe and burgundy. Men in suits and shiny shoes, women in midi dresses and the occasional hat.
The other side of the church either looked like they were going to a back garden barbecue or the club.
I went to a funeral in Wensleydale in the middle of winter, and I wore a black merino turtle neck, black midi skirt, fleece lined fake sheer tights, pointy black suede flats and a navy overcoat, with a black leather bag, a black wool beret and a small silver brooch on my left lapel.
Someone in an ill-fitting suit and unpolished shoes told me to take my hat off in church. That's not a thing for women.
That's a lot of words to say some people care and some don't, and it has a lot to do with how you're brought up and what is normal family by family.
Rachaelmm1995@reddit
The swine! Only men remove their hats.
Very rude actually to tell a woman to take hers off.
world2021@reddit
The man was her husband - she reveals that I'm a later comment
Glum-Manufacturer-58@reddit
I feel like there’s an archaic rule in some churches about women and hats. I was brought up catholic and my dad made me take my beanie off once because it “wasn’t allowed”.
Odd-Quail01@reddit
Women had to cover their head in Catholic churches til 1964. Your dad was wrong.
Glum-Manufacturer-58@reddit
Aah okay thanks. Maybe he just thought I looked scruffy and made up an excuse 😂
ShutUpYaBert@reddit
You're 100% Correct. Scruffy has taken over.
mellonmarshall@reddit
Ha, in Prague I been told off for trying to go in to the churches with a hat as a masculine looking woman. Hell in the cathedral by the castle, they actually have people walking around to tell people off for hats. On the other hand went to Budapest and in the big synagogue and all men had to wear hats or yarmulke, they provided for you. Which was a bit weird
Odd-Quail01@reddit
That was their mistake. I'm sorry that happened. The man in the ill-fitting suit is my husband, and he takes it very well when I tell him he's a heathen who knows nothing about clothes. From anyone else, it would have been terribly intrusive as well as ignorant. I can understand caring about how you dress and wanting to be appropriate, but that ends at someone else's hat.
Dapper-Preference-61@reddit
That chap asking you to remove your hat has made me irrationally angry.
MesoamericanMorrigan@reddit
Ive had old men come up to me in the street to tell me women shouldn’t wear shorts (I had thick leggings on underneath(
Odd-Quail01@reddit
I laughed at him. It was my husband, and I'd been nagging him for a week to pick his shoes out (i offered to polish them for him) and check his suit fit.
He's getting better. I've been setting a good example for 17 years. :)
This_Charmless_Man@reddit
Ok but in religious traditional fashions he's also just wrong. Women had to wear head coverings up until relatively recently and in non C of E churches like orthodox it's still expected.
IHeardOnAPodcast@reddit
Yeah, it's in the New Testament, which is why it's still about in some places, as opposed to a lot of the Old Testament laws that are superseded.
(I'm agreeing with you, just giving some context).
BigBunneh@reddit
Absolutely wrong, women and hats in church is a thing - brought up in RC and it was never a thing to take a hat off, it was a sign of respect to wear one.
IHeardOnAPodcast@reddit
That's what I'm saying and the person above is saying.
BigBunneh@reddit
Sorry, yes, that was meant as an affirmation of your post. Worded badly I admit 😊
Odd-Quail01@reddit
Hats or headscarves or mantillas til 1964
YogurtclosetSuch3789@reddit
But satorially it is also wrong as women's hats are often fastened with pins and what not so it's bad etiquette to ask them to be removed under the same rules as men's hats
Ok_Letterhead_1008@reddit
Calling your husband ‘someone in an ill-fitting suit’ is hilarious hahaha
TwinkletheStar@reddit
It has been 17 years. By that point all husbands are just 'someone in an ill-fitting suit'.... sigh
(I'm joking....in case there's any doubt)
InfiniteDjest@reddit
This is just excellent :D
Dapper-Preference-61@reddit
I was not expecting a plot twist! Thank you!
paperxbadger@reddit
I think I want your wardrobe!
Odd-Quail01@reddit
Most of it is on the floor in the floordrobe. My scruffy husband is a very patient man. :)
animalwitch@reddit
When my sister got married, everyone was dressed fairly nice and smart.... Except for my aunt and cousin who turned up in floral vest tops, shorts and flipflops.... My mom ripped into my aunt afterwards.
It was only in a council office but you still make some sort of effort, right?!
Ballsackavatar@reddit
I suppose thats better than him singing "You can leave your hat on" and stripping in the middle of church.
Would have been more fun though.
DucksBac@reddit
I've lived in Wensleydale and Wakefield too! Same. It can vary so much between families and friend groups. I always err on the smarter side and the people who criticise, often have the least knowledge.
Dapper-Preference-61@reddit
That chap asking you to remove your hat has made me irrationally angry.
CicadaSlight7603@reddit
i am imagining a split by family - left side of the church 4 weddings and a funeral, the right side Shameless.
carl84@reddit
I had some guests turn up to my wedding in "casual wear" but I was just happy they were there, I wasn't bothered about what they were wearing.
To be fair two of them were my aunty and uncle who had literally come straight from the airport back from their holidays
newbracelet@reddit
I gave my cousin the go ahead to wear jeans to my wedding, he discovered a few days before his smart trousers didn't fit anymore and he didn't really want to spend any money on trousers he wasn't going to wear again. They were plain dark jeans so they still looked pretty smart with a shirt and tie.
I do think I'd be a little disappointed if someone showed up looking like they were ready for a Friday night on the sofa, but I think I'd still rather someone was there than not.
hoodie92@reddit
Fair play to your cousin for asking - I've seen people turn up to weddings completely disregarding the dress code and I think it's really rude.
But I don't understand this "never wear again" attitude. More than that, I don't believe it. You're never, NEVER in your life, going to go to another wedding? A christening? A birthday, a funeral, a fancy Xmas party, a formal work do, a dinner party, nothing? Smart trousers are unbelievably versatile so I don't get it.
Western-Mall5505@reddit
I always have at least one pair of smart black trousers.
BeerElf@reddit
I've always got a black dress and a pair of black heels "just in case".
Western-Mall5505@reddit
I can't wear heels anymore and I must admit to out growing my dress
hellomynameisrita@reddit
I assumed the cousin had gained some weight to cause his good trousers not to fit, and didn't want to buy a pair that large for this event as he expected to solve the problem by losing the weight. so no, he didn't want to buy a pair of trousers in a size he wouldn't need the next time he expects to dress up (as with most adults, I be he eventually had to cave and buy something in the new, larger, size.)
Alternatively, he was a teenager in that 'grow an inch taller every month' stage and it's possible he'd outgrow them between the buying and the wearing.
newbracelet@reddit
At the time he was 17 and hadn't finished growing, so it was a very real possibility by the time he was doing job interviews/getting invited to a lot of weddings or christenings he would have to buy new trousers.
He's also very autistic and particularly sensitive about what he wears, so I saw no reason to force him to buy a pair of trousers he would literally only be wearing under duress (even self-imposed duress).
iamthedon@reddit
This is why I have a suit for all occasions. The only difference between a wedding / funeral / christening will be the tie. I can't afford multiple suits and my work is smart casual at best so it's a pretty infrequent need to have multiple formal outfits at the moment. But I make sure my suit fits and I look the best that I can.
And yeah, top marks for them to ask and flag their clothing. I'd be happy that they were that considerate.
I'm not in any way someone to insist on formality (it can also be about how you wear it, and jeans and a shirt can look a lot better than an ill-fitting suit) but at least put some effort in and have a sense of occasion.
Wetkittennoses@reddit
I went to a friend’s wedding reception at a golf club in Edinburgh many years ago and the staff asked one guy to leave as he was wearing jeans!
arpw@reddit
Got him on the old jeans rule? Nazis!
moneyheist21@reddit
A chap of about... six?
87catmama@reddit
I used to work at a golf club, and we had the no jeans rule, but I'm not sure we'd have enforced it on a wedding guest! We'd have quietly tutted behind his back, but not asked him to leave!
whereshhhhappens@reddit
At a recent funeral I attended, one side of the family turned up in smart funeral attire (black smart coats over black dresses, smart trousers or suits). The other side turned up in flannel shirts and blue jeans. I know they say the deceased would probably only care that you attended but…
LowManufacturer435@reddit
Funerals are a funny one as I've been to funerals where everyone was in football shirts or bright colours and I've been to funerals where everyone was in dark colours with black ties etc because that is what the dead person 'would have wanted'
Feisty-Cod-1661@reddit
Avoid chav weddings
LowManufacturer435@reddit
Like I said, it was Halifax so that was unavoidable.
littletorreira@reddit
I was at a wedding yesterday. The least smart outfit was a bil of the groom who wore a shirt sleeve shirt and chinos, still had a tie on.
-ricci-@reddit
I agree, I can't imagine anyone turning up for Christmas in a hoody and tracky bottoms. I think OP just has skaggy friends.
chriscringlesmother@reddit
I was told by the groom (friend of mine) at his wedding to wear whatever makes me comfortable. So I turned up in a pair of cargo shorts, a Hawaiian shirt (smart one), and a pair of trainers…..apparently I was taking the piss :)
He’d known me for years at that point, he does laugh now but said he had no idea I’d take it so literally.
ossietheowl@reddit
I dunno these all seem like relatively formal events to me. Weddings go without saying but christmas and Easter celebrations have always been dress up events in my family, same with birthdays. Even if I go for a roast on a sunday I'll at least wear a blazer of some sort (as a bloke). To my mind it's good manners
illarionds@reddit
That's pretty extreme. A blazer for a pub lunch?
ossietheowl@reddit
Sunday lunch. Not if I went for a fish finger sandwich at 1 o'clock on a Wednesday. But yeah if I'm going for Sunday lunch with my partner or family ill wear something smart, like I said I view dressing well as a form of good manners
Sinnistrall@reddit
Pretty sure you're agreeing with me. A blazer is smart casual, depending on what you pair it with
Sinnistrall@reddit
I'm pretty sure you're agreeing with me. I said the examples OP gave seemed oddly informal dress for the type of event described
Xaphios@reddit
Absolutely, my family will often pop a shirt on if we head round for Sunday lunch. It's just an excuse to wear something a bit nicer and feel good.
Not wearing a suit to a wedding would seem like I'm saying I don't care, unless specified by the invite of course.
pineapplesaltwaffles@reddit
Yeah I've worked at quite a lot of weddings on top of the ones I've attended and men have always been in a suit and tie. I also like to wear a nice dress for Christmas dinner, even if it's just immediate family at home.
EmmaInFrance@reddit
I'm the only one left in my family who seems to bother with dressing up for Christmas Day these days... :-(
Leading_Study_876@reddit
Are you Santa?
EmmaInFrance@reddit
I do sometimes play Father Christmas on Christmas Eve still, even though my youngest kid is 16 now!
Leading_Study_876@reddit
Sounds kinky😉
EmmaInFrance@reddit
Dude, I'm literally delivering the kids' Christmas stockings to their rooms.
Leading_Study_876@reddit
It did sound like some kind of festive cosplay...
EmmaInFrance@reddit
No!
I'm usually in my nightie.
SarcasticDevil@reddit
Apart from the wedding attire it all seems pretty normal to me. Obviously people are free to do what they want but it wouldn't seem weird to me for people to dress casual for OPs other examples
Boldboy72@reddit
If I have a guest coming over, I'll make bloody sure I don't look like a slob who just got back from the gym or a shopping trip in tesco.
SarcasticDevil@reddit
I mean fair enough, but if they're not gonna care then I'm not going to either. If I went round to somebodys place and they were wearing gym clothes I wouldn't be bothered like. I don't see that as slobbish
AmorphousBlob-0001@reddit
If someone came round my house and had an issue with me wearing a hoody and gym shorts they wouldn't be coming round my house again!
Leading_Study_876@reddit
Username checks out.
andtheniansaid@reddit
yeah i think a lot of this is just gonna depend on the norms of the individual group.
HesitantPoster7@reddit
Same here!
re_Claire@reddit
It's a London thing to be super casual at all times lol. I grew up and spent the first 25 years of my life living outside London and we always dressed up. Moved to London and everyone is super casual.
slade364@reddit
Interesting. If it's a family meal, I definitely wouldn't be in a shirt. Probably a hoodie, maybe a 3/4 zip at a push. In summer, probably just a t shirt.
If we're going out I'll wear proper shoes and a shirt.
Weddings, obviously, tux or suit. Actually really annoys me when someone just assumes they're allowed to not wear a tie. If I have to suffer, so do all the other blokes.
butchbadger@reddit
Do they by chance have live laugh love on their walls (other tacky quotes are available.)
Perhaps a deep love for crushed velvet furnishings and green plastic carpet in the garden.
DaZhuRou@reddit
Im be real with you here....
Since covid.... NEVER!!!
SallyNicholson@reddit
Wear what you want, that you feel comfortable wearing. It really doesn't matter what everyone else is wearing.
Outrageous_Shirt_737@reddit
They do all sound a a bit too informal for the situations you’ve described, especially the weddings, but you could always ask the dress code before you go so that you don’t feel out of place. If you don’t want to dress down, the usual outfit for woman my age for most non-formal events was “jeans and a nice top”. That’s pretty dated now but you could always wear smart trousers or some nice jeans of you don’t want to go full “hoodie and joggers” but still be a little more casual than dresses etc.
Away-Ad4393@reddit
I have seen so many women dressed smartly to go to weddings, dinner etc but their male partners seem to think a pair of clean jeans and a shirt or tee shirt is acceptable in a formal setting. I feel sorry for the women who seem to be making an effort and their partners are not. Saying that I couldn’t care less what people wear but I don’t like the double standard of women being expected to dress up and men not.
cgknight1@reddit
So as someone who grew up working class - it's interesting to me how much that has changed - when I grew up, you "wore money" and so it meant on a Friday and a Saturday night you would have nice gear to go out in and that would be different to your normal clothes? This was even if you were going locally. There was also colour in the outfits.
A couple of weeks ago, I visited my home town and went to my old local and was struck that I was the only man not in a hoodie or a tracksuit; I looked like an alien. More than that it was so drab - everything was baggy and grey, blue or black.
I'm not a self-concisous person but noticed I got a few looks because of how I was dressed....
SamVimesBootTheory@reddit
That's actually been fashionable for a good while, a lot of 'elevated basics' and 'quiet luxury' with a dash of 'neutrals everywhere' like athilesisure became popular amongst celebrities it's trickled down.
Chatpetit2000@reddit
Elevated basics from Primark
LowManufacturer435@reddit
When I was a kid it was noteceable that the people from less well off families dressed smarter than the kids from the well off families. Showing my age a bit here, but the Mod and Soul kids in their suits and ties were usually from the less well off families and the punks and metalheads in their ripped jeans and tatty t shirts were always from the well off families.
illarionds@reddit
This was pretty much the case when I was a teenager in the 90s.
Hell, just listen to Common People.
WheresMyAbs98@reddit
Bit of a change of topic but I always found a lot more Mods to be from middle class families than the Punks.
Can’t comment on metalheads though.
Broken_RedPanda2003@reddit
I'm a millennial woman and it's kind of a meme that when my generation went out out, we wore "business casual", whereas the young girls now seem perfectly happy to go out in leggings and hoodies.
GeordieAl@reddit
If you look at photos or videos from each decade from the 60s to the present day, there is a steady decline in the type of clothing people wear.
I grew up in a working class family. Pictures of my dad on day trips and picnics from the 60s and 70s show him wearing a shirt and tie, jacket and dress pants. By the 90s he was still wearing a shirt but with a jumper and jeans.
If you look at average families these days of days out it’s jeans or baggy track pants and t-shirts and hoodies.
CaptainLilacBeard@reddit
I resonate with this, even just wearing jeans and a basic t shirt makes you stand out in a lot of places now. Seems like it's normal to dress like a scruff in most places around me except the actually upmarket towns like Winchester
anotherangryperson@reddit
I used to love dressing up. I see gorgeous dresses in shops and know I’ll never have anywhere to wear them now. The worst is funerals where people turn up in anoraks.
DaysyFields@reddit
Just because everyone else is slovenly doesn't mean you're overdressed.
Ok_Cobbler_8889@reddit
I don't understand it either. I've smartened up in the last year or so, trying to get away from wearing jeans and tees all the time. Bought some nice shirts, chinos, and a couple of different sweaters and blazers for different weather. I also bought a really nice suit for weddings as most of my friends are getting engaged now, in fact I wore it to my sister's wedding last year. Now that was a mix! Most guys in shirt and trousers, a couple managed a waistcoat or jacket. Me and only about 4 others wore a tie! And my bloomin dad turned up in jeans and t shirt 😅
blackpuddingstan@reddit
There is some really top-shelf snobbery going on in this thread. "People who don't dress up for Christmas dinner are chavs" apparently.
No-Beyond-3536@reddit
Right? I find it really weird that how you dress is such a big issue to a lot of people.
We wear whatever the hell we want in our house. All that matters is family time together. To get so hung up on what each other is wearing is incredibly weird. Especially when you're in the comfort of home.
Judging someone for their clothes says at lot more about themselves than it does the other person.
Dry_Interaction5722@reddit
People in this thread saying they dress up for Christmas dinner are kind of wild.
Its bloody Christmas, you're with you family loafing about and eat dangerous amounts of cheese. Whats the point in dressing up?
Same with easter, if you're not going out to a nice restaurant, just be comfy, youre with family or close friends, no one should care what you're wearing.
No-Beyond-3536@reddit
This thread is full of classist weirdos.
In my family we eat Christmas dinner in whatever we want. I'm always in my comfies. We are happy that we are together as a family - what we are wearing has no relevance.
Extra_Honeydew4661@reddit
You're hanging out with chavs
OverallResolve@reddit
This is such a grim attitude
No-Beyond-3536@reddit
This thread is full of stuck up classist wankers.
eaumechant@reddit
So the wedding one is really unusual - I have been to plenty of weddings and they are always formal events. The rest, however, I can relate to. Easters, birthdays, Christmases, these are often more about "being together" for a lot of Brits than they "events". That said, if the occasion is described as a "dinner" that typically signals a slightly higher dress code - the idea is you're "sitting up" to dinner and leaving at the end of it, as opposed to "getting comfortable". I dunno, I expected this answer to be more straightforward than it ended up being.
Long story short: ask your SO what the dress code is. You can never go wrong making it explicit!
Maleficent-Drive4056@reddit
Brits do dress up to an extent. Hosts wearing hoodies when they have invited guests for Christmas lunch is not acceptable IMO (unless specified in advance).
I believe you can never be overdressed! I don’t think you have made any faux pas.
Finally, we do understand different people have different cultures so I hope as a foreigner you will get a bit of leeway when it comes to fashion.
Impossible-Fruit5097@reddit
Um, not acceptable? I think you’ll find the host of the event defines the dress code, not the guests.
Maleficent-Drive4056@reddit
Yeah if they define it then fair enough. But they defined nothing, and left their guests feeling awkward and embarrassed. IMO that is unacceptable.
Impossible-Fruit5097@reddit
You’re working from the premise that of course the event would be more formal so they have to specify differently. I don’t agree that Christmas is a formal event, the hosts dressed per their tradition and OP is dressed per hers. If it’s a big deal for OP to be dressed differently than other people than they need to start checking dress codes before events.
pullingteeths@reddit
Dressing like a slob on Christmas Day when you're a host who invited guests over isn't normal or a "tradition" lmao. They should have warned her about it as they're the ones dressing unusually.
Impossible-Fruit5097@reddit
You think it’s unusual, but there’s plenty of people in this thread who it’s very normal for.
First time I heard of anyone dressing up for Christmas was when I saw it on Gavin and Stacey.
pullingteeths@reddit
Sorry but if you invite guests over for a celebratory event and dress in a hoodie and joggers that's slobby lol. Nothing wrong with it if everyone's on board but if you're inviting guests who aren't close family they're going to turn up over dressed and feel uncomfortable
Impossible-Fruit5097@reddit
You don’t know that it was a big event with multiple guest. For all we know OP was the only person invited to a small family Christmas meal.
Christmas is not necessarily an event. It’s a roast dinner at someone’s house.
pullingteeths@reddit
I agree when it's close family but when you invite friends who aren't super close to a special meal it's pretty weird to be in a tracksuit and not sure why people are pretending otherwise. Would you wear that to host a dinner party?
Spare-Afternoon-559@reddit
Sorry, but your Xmas must be miserable if it's comparable to a dinner party. What dinner party has half a dozen toddlers high on sugar with nerf guns running about?
pullingteeths@reddit
It's just fun to dress up. And an event where you're inviting not that close adult friends for dinner is probably a different situation to where it's just family and kids
Spare-Afternoon-559@reddit
How is it so difficult for you to grasp that your own experience isn't the same as everyone else's? I presume you're an adult, so how is it possible to be so incredibly short-sighted and unaware of the possibility of people living life differently to yourself?
Your common/usual, isn't the same common/usual for everyone, children are taught concepts this simple btw
pullingteeths@reddit
I've acknowledged multiple times that it works fine that way for some people, I'm talking about how common/prevalent it is. Most people do not invite an adult over for a special meal and wear a hoodie and trackies. Therefore if someone does do that without mentioning anything about dressing casually it's likely the person they invited will be overdressed compared to them.
Maleficent-Drive4056@reddit
I agree but that doesn’t change the point. If you invite someone for lunch on a big occasion they will typically dress up a little. You should either do the same or warn them not to.
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
Christmas Day is the one day where we do wear comfy slacks, Eat, drink and watch TV! I don’t wanna be in a suit watching Wallace and gromit whilst im trying to assemble whatever toys the kids have had!
callandreturn@reddit
Usually “jeans and a nice top” works for most occasions.
RainbowPenguin1000@reddit
Polo shirts to a wedding?
That sounds absolutely ridiculous to me but I’m curious how old the bride and groom were as people younger than me (30s) seem more casual with their dress code.
Constant-Parsley3609@reddit
I'm currently planning a wedding and one of the plus ones was insistenting that he could wear jeans. His partner asked us if we could clarify the dress code on our website.
Never thought I'd have to specify that the dress code for the wedding is wedding attire
TuMek3@reddit
Have you ever thought that weddings around the world, and even in the Uk could be different?
Constant-Parsley3609@reddit
What relevance would that have?
TuMek3@reddit
That the dress code for a wedding in the UK, Australia, and India might be different?
Constant-Parsley3609@reddit
And who in my story was Australian or Indian?...
TuMek3@reddit
You didn’t mention a country or a setting. That’s exactly the point. You assume that everyone should understand what your version of “wedding attire” is.
andtheniansaid@reddit
i think there are just a lot more casual weddings these days. though it would be fair to ask, but odd to insist you could without checking!
TheFunInDysfunction@reddit
If it’s a normal wedding then no, jeans do not work, it doesn’t matter what jeans they are.
Milky_Finger@reddit
You could get away with jeans if they're very dark and you wear it with a sports coat. It's not better than a suit but if the bride and groom dont want people in suits then it's the next best thing. It does age you a bit though.
TheFunInDysfunction@reddit
But if the bride and groom don’t want people in suits then it’s not a normal wedding. If it’s normal wedding attire then you can’t wear jeans.
illarionds@reddit
That's quite a narrow definition of "normal".
TheFunInDysfunction@reddit
Is it? Normal doesn’t mean acceptable or good or correct, it means what is expected, regular or typical which would mean happening in a majority of cases. I think it’s a perfectly rational statement to say that at most UK weddings it would not be normal to wear jeans.
sideone@reddit
What sort of sports would you recommend? Motor racing?
Milky_Finger@reddit
Yes, the old leather ones with Marlboro and Subaru badges stitched onto the arms, so everyone knows you're a massive pillock :D
Nah, I mean this
andtheniansaid@reddit
what's a 'normal wedding'? at a relaxed wedding with a relaxed dress code, yes they do. is anything without suits and not in a church not a normal wedding? if so i think you might be a bit behind the times
TheFunInDysfunction@reddit
A normal wedding is one with wedding attire, the statistically most likely scenario, which in the UK requires suits for men.
By the virtue of you saying it’s fine at a ‘relaxed’ wedding you’re clearly saying it’s not normal, because you’ve caveated the style of wedding. I also feel that you’re also mistaking the word normal to mean acceptable or good, when really I’m talking about the norm, the thing that happens most often.
I’d actually say these days that weddings without a church service (at least in my experience) are not the norm, so a civil wedding is probably normal while a church wedding is only historically normal, but not currently normal.
amethystpark@reddit
He sounds borderline annoying, it's one day and it ain't even his, wear some decent trousers for a few hours good lord.
Milky_Finger@reddit
Honestly i think for some people they need to know whether they are going to have to spend some money to be able to attend. If they already had the clothes in the closet then they wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Swimming_Average3511@reddit
Yh I couldn't afford it at mo. The only shirt I own is a Hawaiian shirt and don't have any "smart" trousers. My only suit is old and small for me because I've had it since a teen. It's been a rough six months and could not afford to look smart for a wedding.
HypedSub-@reddit
Then you explain that to the wedding couple and ask how they want you to approach it, turn up as is, wait and come in the evening etc. You absolutely dont insist you can wear jeans, or worse just turn up in them, without talking about it like an adult.
MMSTINGRAY@reddit
He insisted to his girlfriend that jeans would be fine at a wedding then his girlfriend asked the couple I think. I don't think they mean he was arguing with the couple their dress code was wrong.
TotalBeginnerLol@reddit
You can get probably get a plain shirt and plain trousers from a charity shop for under £10 for the pair. Maybe even under £5 if you shop around.
ukslim@reddit
Charity shops are full of shirts and trousers that'd be good enough for a wedding guest. Suits too, if you really need one, but you probably don't.
cyanmagentacyan@reddit
One of our ushers turned up in a woolly patterned jumper. It didn't half look daft with a buttonhole rose pinned to it. But it wasn't that which annoyed me, the real problem was that he failed to ush as requested and my mother ended up sat all by herself instead of with my godparents like we'd planned.
Moral, never assume someone knows what being an usher entails.
Rebcatt@reddit
I once asked if I could wear jeans under my bridesmaid dress. I was 5 though.
wildOldcheesecake@reddit
Aha you’ve just reminded me of the skirt over jeans trend. Dark times
utterly_baffledly@reddit
I still wear mini dresses over jeggings though. I'm tall enough that they're often not decent without something under so I just layer.
wildOldcheesecake@reddit
Ah but this works! I’m only 5 foot but I loved wearing those stretchy flare dresses over leggings. I’m talking about straight cut jeans and rara skirts
utterly_baffledly@reddit
Yeah I remember it. I'm wearing a minidress over slacks at work today but I can't quite manage the full grunge effect.
Loxliegh@reddit
Are jeans not wedding attire? Maybe like bright blue ones would be out of place if you don’t want a colourful wedding but black jeans are just black.
Shannoonuns@reddit
Jesus christ.
I'd uninvite the man personally.
This_Charmless_Man@reddit
Ok so I got into it with my brother about what formal means for his wedding soon and it got very bad between us. I took it to mean a suit, he took it to mean just below tuxedo.
But this guy‽ No, a set of jeans is not worn to a wedding. Was he dropped on his head as a child? That's an almost impressive level of belligerence.
Apologies for getting heated about the people attending your wedding but wow. Please say you got the message through to him?
BrieflyVerbose@reddit
I've been at a wedding where in the evening after the ceremony itself and all the pictures were taken, some of the guys ditched the shirt and tie and shoes and put on a polo shirt and some trainers to have a drink and a dance.
I'd never seen it before, but there were part of my friends group so in and around my age. It was like everyone had agreed on doing it and did it together.
To be honest if I'd have known about it then I'd have done the same because I absolutely hate wearing suits!
Stunning-Wave7305@reddit
Once someone's at the evening do and the drinks are flowing then let's face it - everyone bins the ties, the top buttons, the jackets, the heels and - in warm weather - often the shoes entirely! 😃
This_Charmless_Man@reddit
My other half attended a friend's wedding and the gave out flip flops for people so they didn't have sore feet from heels
Ashamed_Fix9652@reddit
Same here, nice touch
Binners297@reddit
I changed my dress and shoes when everything official was done when I got married 😂😂 not dancing all night in heels and a long dress
liebackandthinkofeng@reddit
I got married a year and a half ago when I was 28 and we insisted on morning suits/smart dresses and clothing for women. Trainers and jeans were a big no no and we plastered it all over the invitation - only one person asked if they could wear trainers and we said a hard no for it. Every wedding I’ve been to, people have dressed up and enjoyed dressing up for it!
hhfugrr3@reddit
A mate of mine got married and wanted it to be informal. He wore a jumper and some of the guests were in football tops, which I thought was a bit too casual but the couple were happy with it, so what do I know!?!
Queen_Banana@reddit
I had an intimate wedding with 30 guests. Me and my husband and bridesmaid all dressed up, but it was an outdoor wedding in the middle of August so we told our guests to dress for the weather and wear whatever they were comfortable in. STILL alll our of our guests showed up in suits and formal dresses, even the kids.
HazelCheese@reddit
I went to a funeral recently and was told beforehand it was smart casual and that jumpers and stuff were ok.
I went in a checkered black and white shirt with black tie and dark navy jacket and dark trousers. Figured I'd be overdressed.
I was the most underdressed person there, was so embarrassing. Everyone who kept telling me it was smart casual was in full white shirt black tie black jacket and black shoes. I looked like a clown in comparison.
Last time I listen to anyone about dress code lol.
Spiritual_Egg3900@reddit (OP)
The bride and groom were 28 and 32! And the wedding party was mostly late 20s-mid 30s
Necessary-Crazy-7103@reddit
This sounds extremely unusual, honestly. I've never heard of such a thing. It is far more 'normal' for men to wear a suit and women to wear either their best dress or a new formal one that they've specifically purchased for the occasion. Most women also pay meticulous attention to their hair and makeup as well.
The circle that you have found yourself in seems unusually underdressed.
VokN@reddit
Your boyfriend is a chav, no faux pas on your part, I think this behaviour is abnormal even among the working class
VokN@reddit
I think you need to reevaluate your expectations regarding your boyfriends upbringing and social class
This is not normal behaviour at all, even among “chavs” I’d think they’d put on a suit and tie for a wedding even if it’s a shitty rented one
chav “it’s an Armani/ boss polo so it’s smart” vibes
Gibber_jab@reddit
For context all weddings I’ve been to (including mine) was suits for the men and dresses for the women. We are all around the same age as your example
DownrightDrewski@reddit
I've been to a wedding in incredibly casual clothes, but, the theme was something like haiwain beach party and that's what we were told to wear - it was weird.
Every other wedding I've been to I've at least worn a shirt, and usually shirt and tie.
Mukatsukuz@reddit
Reminds me of two separate job interviews I had where the one said I looked too formal since I was wearing a suit and another said he was surprised that I wore one but was impressed as nobody had worn a suit to his interviews before. I felt like I'd completely lost touch with society.
m1nkeh@reddit
I’d let this slide if it was maybe 30c outside or something…
Viridis13@reddit
If I was going out for Christmas lunch or Easter I would make an effort, but my family have never bothered getting dressed up if we were just at home, seems kind of pointless to me, I don’t give a rat’s arse what my family are wearing as long as they are comfortable, it’s more about just spending time with them 🤷🏼♂️
I agree about weddings though, I’ve never not worn a suit to one. The only exception to this would be if it was specifically requested that no one wear a suit.
tucnakpingwin@reddit
I think it varies by family and culture to be honest.
In my family on one side I’d definitely dress nicer when meeting up for lunch or other events; opting for dark jeans/smart shorts, and a shirt. Whereas for the other side of my family’s events I’d dress more casually, say casual jeans and a t-shirt/hoodie.
The only exceptions would be events like weddings and funerals, as these would typically be formal affairs for most people; though at a relative’s funeral I wore a smart casual outfit and didn’t feel underdressed.
LiverpoolBelle@reddit
Scouse girls are always dressed up
Emergency-Ad-5379@reddit
Doesn't seem to help though
LiverpoolBelle@reddit
Help?
wandering_salad@reddit
But they often look really tacky to me (I am not from the UK but have lived here for a long time now).
PosieLoveday@reddit
I was going to say, come to Liverpool and you won’t feel out of place at all.
cuppateaangel@reddit
Absolutely!
cuppateaangel@reddit
Absolutely!
ejh1818@reddit
I think your friends are right, it’s the circles you’re mixing in, rather than Britsh culture. I (and everyone I know) would make a bit of an effort if invited to Christmas lunch or a birthday meal. Those in hoodies would definitely be in a minority, probably just the kids/teenagers.
Stunning-Wave7305@reddit
It IS frustrating, I totally agree. I love clothes and love an excuse to wear nice things and have my hair done etc. And yet I too sometimes turn up at events feeling wildly overdressed.
I'm British, but my partner isn't originally. And I know he finds it confusing. For him and his culture weddings, funerals, parties etc. are a bit of an opportunity to show how well you can scrub up and how respectable you are. No one would dream of going to a wedding in anything other than something smart: suit, midi dress, coat dress, traditional cultural dress etc. I found the same when I lived in Germany - there's very much more dressing up for formal events there.
What I've realised since moving back to the UK is that a lot of people are just massive scruffs. And it's not as simple as rich/poor north/south old/young.
For example, a relative of mine who is middle class, well educated, not poor, middle aged, turned up at a family wedding in the kind of clothes I'd wear around the garden. My mum - who is as English as they come - was appalled as she was immaculately turned out (as ever).
I was at a wedding a few weeks ago where I felt wildly overdressed in a simple midi dress, hair done in a low textured bun, lowish heels, neutral make up and a little hat. Turns out I could have just worn slacks and a crumpled linen blouse 🤷🏽♀️. But last year I wore virtually the same outfit to another wedding and wished I'd been a bit more extra!
It's really hard to get it 'right' but my advice is to wear the clothes you feel comfortable in (so long as it's not massively over the top). I can't imagine going to a wedding and NOT making a big effort. It's nice. Just because some people are scruffy gits doesn't mean you need to be.
wandering_salad@reddit
How long have you been in the UK? If you have been gone quite long, it's possible that in your home country, the attitude towards dressing up has also changed?
It might also be just the type of UK people you happen to hang out with.
Just keep doing what you are doing. There's nothing wrong with taking pride in your appearance.
Delicious-Cut-7911@reddit
It sounds like these people are chavs. My whole family will dress in smart, casual clothes for an evening out. You will always get people dressing in jogging bottoms and hoodies 24/7.
pelican678@reddit
Every wedding I’ve been to has always been suit and tie or even black tie. It would strike me as very tacky if people were able to attend in polo shirts. I think you are dressing just fine, they are underdressing.
ChocolateSnowflake@reddit
This sounds like a circle thing.
A polo shirt at a wedding is not acceptable. Dressing up at Christmas is also expected.
Easter and birthdays are a bit more flexible. Different people would ascribe different importance to these especially if it’s just dinner at home.
boostman@reddit
Honestly, I know all families are different, but this is the first time I've heard the concept of 'dressing up at Christmas' in all my born days. I thought Christmas attire was basically pyjamas.
leyland_gaunt@reddit
Who dresses up at Xmas? T shirt, jeans and gin day.
Calliceman@reddit
Jeans ay? Fancy boy!
Cheese-n-Opinion@reddit
Xmas for me is casual wear, but the nice version of it. Smart jeans and a nice shirt, defo not trackies and a hoodie.
noddyneddy@reddit
Xmas dresses and nice shirts in my family - something a little festive, velvet, possibly a few sequins… but not heavily fitted. After dinner is comfies while we sprawl on the couch digesting food like a family of pythons. We are a family that likes to celebrate though and make an occasion of things. If we’re cooking for 4 hours to make the meal, we allow 15 mins to change into something smarter to honour it.
I think part of the problem is that a lot of people don’t know how to dress up any more and are a little scared of getting it wrong so they play it safe, as they see it
Big-Yam8021@reddit
I totally agree with that last bit, I'm 28, but I really struggle with dressing up, I feel like a spectacle. I know I wouldn't enjoy my day if I was dolled up because of how self-conscious I would be.
leyland_gaunt@reddit
Each to their own - as long as you have a great day!
pawiwowie@reddit
It depends. Company Christmas party at a venue (such as town hall or fancy hotel)? Dress up. Company Christmas dinner at the pub? Jumpers and jeans. Christmas party at your mates? Depends on the host (might even be fancy dress)
CaliferMau@reddit
For us, it Would depend if you’re going round to see family. Normally it’s us + in laws so just pyjamas, fun jumpers and paper hats. If we were going to the extended family for dinner then slightly more effort would be put in.
Though the effort I put into finding the most hideous jumper should count
Conradus_@reddit
Why is a polo shirt not acceptable? I struggle to understand why people are bothered by what others wear.
Fyonella@reddit
Manners and respect.
Conradus_@reddit
To who? Surely wearing a polo shirt doesn't impact anyone other than the wearer.
It feels like the answer is "because society says so" and we just don't question it because traditions.
Simple-Pea-8852@reddit
Because the couple has spent literally 10s of thousands of pounds and they don't want pictures of him looking like he's off to play golf?
Conradus_@reddit
I can't imagine giving a shit about what someone else is wearing, even at my own wedding. I am odd, though, as societies rules like this never make sense to me.
Fyonella@reddit
Making an effort to look clean, smart & appropriately dressed for a specific occasion is directly indicative of how you regard the people whose event you are attending.
Yes, it’s a societal ‘norm’ you’re conforming to, in just the same way I assume you don’t just urinate & defecate wherever you happen to be when the urge takes you.
Manners & respect!
Conradus_@reddit
People must hate me then as I value my own comfort over what others want me to wear, oops.
Simple-Pea-8852@reddit
Yeah they probs do find that pretty disrespectful.
Fyonella@reddit
I wouldn’t ‘hate’ you but I would certainly think you were a little ignorant and didn’t know better.
I’m not sure I’d just put it down to being entirely self centred and societally illiterate which is what you’re suggesting.
GreasedTea@reddit
Wearing a polo shirt to a wedding is not comparable to shitting in the street c’mon 😅
Fyonella@reddit
I wasn’t saying it was. I was pointing out that everyone conforms to societal expectations to one degree or another. It’s not a bad thing to conform sometimes!
noddyneddy@reddit
Because sometimes it’s good to have variation - high days and holidays - rather than live in monotony where nothing is ever ‘special’. IMO that’s a dull way to live
Conradus_@reddit
I am pretty dull so that lines up
Unidentified_Snail@reddit
Whom, you polo wearing oik. (Only joking of course!)
Conradus_@reddit
See! This is why I need to wear polo shirts, suits are cutting the oxygen off to my brain
turnipofficer@reddit
Well it would be considered under dressed for most weddings. It might be fine for someone who only got an invite to the evening after party but men there for the full day would normally wear a suit with a proper shirt.
Ofc it’s possible some people might choose to be a bit more relaxed with dress code, it would be largely down to what the bride and groom want and would expect.
andtheniansaid@reddit
Yeah this, plenty of people are having far more relaxed weddings these days. polo shirt would be fine at a lot of them.
Constantwaitscoat@reddit
Christmas is one of the only occasions where I still wear a tie!
naddpodenjoyer@reddit
I think it depends on the wedding. I'm not married but if/when I do get married it'll be smart-casual. Polo shirt would definitely be fine.
My brother wore black jeans and a shirt for his wedding, and his wife wore a white/cream sundress. I guess we're just not fancy folk.
Beartato4772@reddit
Yeah, surely what’s acceptable at a wedding is entirely the couple’s choice.
Simple-Pea-8852@reddit
Yes but if a dress code isn't specified then the dress code is "wedding" and that doesn't include polo necks except maybe on small children.
Nice_Back_9977@reddit
Definitely agree with you on the first, not on the second. Christmas day is novelty jumpers, paper hats and comfy trousers with a stretchy waistband for loads of people and that's perfectly acceptable.
focalac@reddit
Not in my family. It’s a circle thing, like they said.
Simple-Pea-8852@reddit
I'm not sure it's as wide as a circle thing. This varies massively family to family - even amongst people in the same social circle.
RamboMamboJambo@reddit
I arrive in my smart clothes, make a first impression, photo with me Nan and then the joggers come out for post dinner / games.
WheresMyAbs98@reddit
Spot on.
Christmas jumpers and trackies in our house.
Plugged_in_Baby@reddit
Jumpers yes, trackies absolutely no.
Mukatsukuz@reddit
I agree but I, personally, would only ever wear trackies when doing sports, hiking or at the gym. I'm old, though and a lot of the whippersnappers of today wear trackies all over the place.
Milky_Finger@reddit
I always said that there is "red and green christmas" (pyjamas, very loud christmas jumpers, trackies, trainers) and "white christmas" (more formal, earrings, makeup, ironed shirt). You will likely fall into one of these 2 and you've been in the same mindset on christmas since you were a kid.
Mukatsukuz@reddit
Yeah, I would dress on Christmas accordingly to who I expect to come. Last couple of Christmasses I've always worn a Christmas jumper and it's impossible to look smart with one of them on. These are ones spent at my dad's house with nobody but the very closest friends and family coming.
If, however, I was going to a Christmas party at a neighbour's/friend's house or people I didn't know, then I would dress a bit more smartly.
mata_dan@reddit
Yeah I have some posher sides of the family and even they would never dress up at Christmas.
TeHNeutral@reddit
Are you looking for the vicar of the parish who's lost his hat?
PapaJrer@reddit
Pyjamas all day at Christmas.
Party-Werewolf-4888@reddit
I don't know if this is an exclusively Scouse thing, and even then I don't think it's totally normal in Liverpool, but I know a lot of people who get "Christmas Day Pyjamas". These are not the pyjamas they slept in on Christmas Eve, instead slightly fancy pyjamas that they put on to wear for Christmas Day.
Always lost on me.
CanOfPenisJuice@reddit
And on the school run. And to tesco.
Joke though pjs become Xmas jumper and comfy pants (jeans not jockers) if we're going out
Illustrious-Divide95@reddit
I agree. Polo shirt is not OK at a wedding. Christmas lunch/dinner i would expect some effort. For men a shirt and smart jeans as a minimum. I don't care if everyone gets comfy afterwards though and changes
pitchblaca@reddit
Unusual but not wrong. Personally I wanted my guests to feel comfortable and not to buy anything new if they didn't have the funds. In my mind, people are invited because I like them, not because of what they wear. A polo shirt wouldn't have bothered me at all.
Maybe that person had sensory issues.
memcwho@reddit
Honestly, if it was hot as fuck, a nice polo with chinos wouldn't get a second glance from me.
Scatty or "brand name across the front" one wouldn't be acceptable.
amethystpark@reddit
Yeah I can't think of a wedding I've been to where polo shirts were a thing, even my own wedding where my wife thoughtfully brought me my AF1s to wear with my wedding dress so I wasn't crippled at the reception etc
CicadaSlight7603@reddit
It’s usually a class thing. Are your friends more working class? Although working class weddings can be very dressy. But that would explain hoodies at everything else. (Nothing wrong with hoodies, I love a hoodie, just it is very casual for formal events.)
For weddings I’d expect men in lounge suits (middle class, some upper class), or even morning suits (upper and some upper middle weddings). Women in dresses, hats etc. At a more casual wedding men would be in lounge suits with women in more casual tea dress style.
Birthday dinners etc it depends more if it’s close family only, or a big celebration, as well as class. I’d expect shirt, wool/cashmere jumper, and chinos or smart jeans perhaps for the men. Ties usually only in older generations. Women smart casual. Anything from a nice dress to a smarter pair of jeans and a blouse with some accessories. The more guests, the more dressy usually. Unless it’s hiring a room at the local pub.
Easter is less of a thing here than in much of Europe. My European family take it very seriously as a religious festival even more important than Christmas, with a formal meal. Most Brits think eggs and chocolate. So this may depend on how religious the hosts are as well, as to whether it’s considered an average Sunday at home, or smart affair.
So lots of factors to consider! But you’re right, what you are seeing is unusually casual for Britain.
May I recommend an excellent book called ´watching the English’ it’s a funny but well researched guide to English behaviour by social anthropologist Kate Fox. Essential reading for non-Brits living here.
Taf2499@reddit
Depends on your social circles. I regularly wear a shirt and chinos to events where others are in jeans or trackies.. but then I find it more comfortable, I overheat in jeans almost instantly and I hate the skinny jeans that proliferate shops these days, nightmare to find those which fit someone who doesn't skip leg day...
As my Grandfather always said, "look good, feel good, do good".
He wore shirt and tie every day, regardless of gardening, a 10 mile walk, getting his pension.. he was just that sort of man. These days it depends on your social circles I feel.
I have quite a wide range of friends who dont all mix which each other (different hobbies etc) and half tend to dress well, half never dress up unless its mandated at a wedding.
Before anyone asks, range of incomes in both circles. I guess it depends on your surroundings.
Phil1889Blades@reddit
I would assume the people you are attending these events with should be able to advise. I’m not sure there’s a countrywide consensus but there does seem to be some element of dressing down. I would never dress up for something at someone’s house only when out and about in a “nice” venue for a wedding or similar.
Conscious-Teacher641@reddit
The last time that I got ‘dressed up’ inc make up, was a wedding a year ago. However, my mum would dress formally to go to ASDA, so continue to live your authentic self, dress to please yourself, and wear the things that bring you joy!
Electrical-Leave4787@reddit
Keep doing what you do. It’s quite a (white)British , often middle class thing. You’ll notice the more working class people making an effort to present themselves stylishly. It’s part of the western demise! Feminist and elegance is being crushed.
I also feel bemused as to how people don’t polish their shoes. When people wear short socks with dress pants and shoes.
This masculine thug life dress fashion on women is not to be adopted!
YogurtAmazing2995@reddit
Lol you'd love scottish wedding every one wearing kilts
lockedintheattic74@reddit
I would say Londoners are generally amongst the least formal dressers in Europe, let alone the UK
bearwright1@reddit
Dunno back in my hey day you'd have to wear trousers n shirt n shoes to get into clubs, nowadays I'll only dress up for special occasions otherwise it's smart casual
Maximum_Scientist_85@reddit
Of the events you've mentioned:
Christmas dinner ... yeah, I just wear my normal clothes to my mother-in-law's. I don't think you've committed a major faux pas by dressing up though tbh, when I go to my grandmother's I always go kind of smart-casual. But that's not the relationship with my in-laws :)
Easter ... yeah, Easter tends to be informal - certainly compared to a lot of (Christian) countries where it's considered on a par with, or more important than, Christmas. That always tends to be informal for us, as does people's birthdays. Understandable if it's a joint occasion to get dressed up a little bit, although I don't do it personally (my brother-in-law's birthday is on Christmas day for example, and I've been known to turn up at their house in my pyjamas ... we're very informal, though!)
Weddings ... ha, you're not the first or last person to out-do the bride! I remember me & my now wife went to my friend's wedding when we'd only been going out a short time ourselves, and my wife was the best dressed girl there except maybe the bride ... certainly looked a lot more dressed up than the "best lady" (who filled the traditional best man role!). But yeah, usually for me that's a suit & tie arrangement, my wife wears a nice (usually new) dress, makeup, etc. Polo shirts for a wedding feels very informal/unusual to me.
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I think a lot of this depends on your social circle though. I wouldn't worry about it overly tbh, it's far worse to feel under-dressed than it is to feel over-dressed1
loveswimmingpools@reddit
Polo shirts at a wedding...seems OK for some weddings. But hoodies at Christmas when you've invited people round? No way!
BeerElf@reddit
I'm probably older than you (I'm older than most people TBF), and like you, I like charity shops, eBay and that kind of thing. I also like dressing smartly, my work is smart casual and a lot wear jeans. I've got one pair of jeans and I'm not really keen on them so they're still in the wardrobe sulking.
If I'd been to a family wedding, even at a registry office and people were wearing track pants my Mum would have had to have a lie-down! I would have, maybe joined in the grumbling. My daughter, who doesn't do skirts, wore smart black trousers and a black shirt and looked really chic. Please carry on dressing smartly! People don't do it enough
Mysterious_Soft7916@reddit
I don't, and I also don't know anyone who does dress up. I think the only times we would be are weddings and possibly christenings. I don't know anyone religious who would have their child christened. Funerals in my family are a no black clothing affair. People are expected to wear something a bit more colourful. So no, we don't tend to do the whole dressing up thing. We are also as common as muck though.
Particular_Store8743@reddit
I'm British and if someone invited me for Christmas dinner and they were wearing hoodies and tracksuits I'd think they were slobs with zero sense of occasion. Don't drop your standards to accommodate us slobby Brits. You keep dressing well - show us how it's done.
--BooBoo--@reddit
I wouldn't say we are a posh family at all but we would always dress up for Christmas day - nothing over the top but jeans and a collared shirt for guys and something like a jumper dress or a Christmas sparkly top for women. We would probably then cave and change into lounge wear at some point when we had eaten too much and waste bands were digging in, but it would always be after the main dinner and it would be our smartest lounge wear!
My brother turned up one year with a new girlfriend that we hadn't met before and she was wearing dirty battered trainers, trackkie bottoms with a hole in and a really saggy tatty old cardigan - it was the kind of stuff I would do the gardening or spring cleaning in, I don't think I'd even of popped to the shops in it never mind going to meet a new boyfriends family for the first time on Christmas day.
She did say afterwards that she had asked my brother if she needed to dress up and he had said "oh not too much, we are quite casual" but he meant "not a cocktail dress" rather than "slept homeless on the streets".
Obviously no one was rude enough to react but I'm pretty sure that yes we all thought she was a slob with zero sense of occasion!
She was generally a strange character - my Dad offered her a drink before dinner and when she asked what we were having he said some people were having wine and a few were on gin and tonics. She looked a bit confused and said "oh well I don't normally drink much" so he offered her tea, coffee or a soft drink, but she declined and said she would have a gin. He asked her what tonic she wanted and if she wanted ice and lemon and she said "oh no thank you, just the gin please" and proceeded to drink 3/4 of a bottle of neat drink in about two hours with zero noticeable effect!
redsquizza@reddit
That just got weirder and weirder, haha.
One assumes the girlfriend is not now your in-law? 😂
--BooBoo--@reddit
Yeah it was a very bizarre day!
She's not but weirdly they did end up staying together for about 10 years!
redsquizza@reddit
Did future events improve or she really digged that shabby chic look? 😂
--BooBoo--@reddit
Not really no, she generally looked "shabby chic" at very best or "bag lady" at worst. We went to a couple of occasions like family weddings and once a really posh afternoon tea for my Mums birthday where I felt really bad and uncomfortable for her at how out of place she looked.
There was one occasion where my brother had a big corporate event that would have been important for his career and she went with my Mum and Dad but they got stuck in really bad traffic and were so late that pretty much everyone had left before they got there. My Mum (who is the sweetest person I know and never has a bad word to say about anyone) said afterwards that they were so relieved because she felt she looked so bad it would have been humiliating for my brother!!
I was never completely sure whether she just totally didn't give a shit about what she looked like and what people thought of her, or so completely clueless that she just never knew what was appropriate for an occasion and what looked good on her. Honestly knowing her I think it was probably the latter!
EastOfArcheron@reddit
She sounds bizarre! How long did your brother see her for?
SilverellaUK@reddit
That's it. Bizarre Class!
--BooBoo--@reddit
She really was - she wasn't a bad person just pretty odd and very much not the sharpest tool in the box (my Dad used to say when God was giving out brains, she thought he said trains and joined a different queue!).
We didn't think they would last 10 minutes as my brother is very bright (he definitely got the brains in the family not me! 😆) but they ended up living together for about 10 years somjt goes to show you never know with relationships.
master12211@reddit
You are very middle class, nothing wrong with it but you very much are. It just sounds like a middle class family encountering the working class.
LiterallyJustMia@reddit
I’m very working class and I would never show up to Christmas dinner at a strangers house in holey clothes.
--BooBoo--@reddit
Yes I guess we probably are middle class but my Dad came from a very working class East End of London family and they would never be like that, and I would say her family were also middle class, and if anything a bit posher than we are so no it's not that.
I don't think it's working class to go to an occasion like Christmas day at a new boyfriends house in really scruffy clothes, I think she was just a little odd and a bit thick to be honest!
Particular_Store8743@reddit
Oh my! Are they still together?
--BooBoo--@reddit
No they split up in the end but they did live together for nearly 10 years first!
She wasn't a bad person at all, just odd and not very bright at all!
Recsq@reddit
They're called chavs darling
Crabbies92@reddit
Doesn't sound like it - middle-class Londoners according to OP.
HypedSub-@reddit
Definitely not middle class if they're going to a Christmas dinner in clothes like that.
Crabbies92@reddit
Eh, I always associate "dressing up" with the nouveau riche or those who were born working class and are trying to move up the ladder. People born into the middle classes tend to be rather more relaxed.
HypedSub-@reddit
You associate wearing a suit to a wedding with the upper class or those trying to move up the ladder? Sorry to be the one to tell you this but if you believe that you aren't middle class...
Crabbies92@reddit
I was responding to your previous comment (obviously) in which you claimed they're "not middle class if they're going to Christmas dinner in clothes like that." But I'm guessing you knew that and realised that it was a flimsy argument and so had to pretend I was referring to weddings instead.
That said, I can't wait to tell my working-class northern friends that I'm one of them after all despite being born in East Sussex in a four-bedroom, three-storey detached house to a degree-having mother!
HypedSub-@reddit
Eh w/e, can't be arsed to explain the different classes to someone so up himself he wants to be a class he's not
HypedSub-@reddit
Still not middle class if you're going to a Christmas do in a tracksuit. The fact you think growing up in a detached house makes you middle class proves you're not. Class has always been about more than money in the UK and most of the world. It's why some millionaire footballers are still working class, and why a lot of the upper class in the UK is now quite cash poor.
Plugged_in_Baby@reddit
Doubt it.
Recsq@reddit
He's Eastern Euro. How on earth does he know what class they are...
pickonepicktwo@reddit
Or upper crust
ActualGvmtName@reddit
Upper class would be in corduroy and woolen-jumpers
geriatrikwaktrik@reddit
maybe 100 years ago
ActualGvmtName@reddit
Nope.
They are buying good quality clothes of natural fibres. Then getting dirty gardening, or riding, or breeding Cavalier King Charles spaniels and not giving a shit what they look like. Most will dress for dinner, but you'll get refuseniks
thick_lemon@reddit
Actually a perfect description of some people I know, except it's training shooting dogs instead of breeding spaniels
geriatrikwaktrik@reddit
we only do that if our grandfather was the be all and end all
Loud_Ad_9187@reddit
I would think they had been wrapping u til.three in the morning and then up.earluee to start cooking
WheresMyAbs98@reddit
I guess it depends on family traditions.
In my house it’s Christmas jumpers and trackies.
Particular_Store8743@reddit
Acceptable. A Christmas jumper is at least a nod to the occasion.
Maleficent-Drive4056@reddit
And if you invited a guest would you give them a heads up about what you wear? That’s what this boils down to IMO.
Diddleymaz@reddit
I have noticed a rise in casual wear in places where I dress up a bit! It’s annoying that other people don’t make an effort but apparently these days tracky bottoms and hoodies can be very expensive and they are their best clothes.
eilb3@reddit
Honestly since Covid happened my dress sense has gone super casual. I don’t even really wear heels on a night out anymore. For casual family dinners I’d probably be in jeans and a T-shirt. Hoody if it was cold. I’d always do hair and makeup at least a bit for events. I make an effort for weddings though. Hair makeup smart dress and heels. It’s really one of the only events I dress up for anymore.
When I go out for dinner to a restaurant with friends (including some who are solicitors, etc) everyone is dressed super casual wearing the little to no makeup. This is something that’s only happened since Covid though. Before that we all made more effort.
bigbuttbenshapiro@reddit
If you’re in the north we don’t really go to family parties during the holidays unless it’s specified and even then it’s a time to relax with family not a performance southerners can be a bit more fancy but it’s pretty standard in the youth at least to just wear whatever you want and not be judged because who has the time
Brilliant-Mix3091@reddit
this is definitely the circles you run in. i’ve lived here my whole life and all the situations you listed i was surprised at the outfits you described them wearing. perhaps it’s time to find people more on the same levels as you
xsorr@reddit
When theres a big zoom call meeting
Greendeco13@reddit
I've noticed that even at funerals some people are not dressing appropriately. I don't mean you have to spend a lot of money and go overboard, but wearing jeans and a t shirt to a funeral is, imo, not right. And before anyone points out they might not have money to buy shirt and pants, they did have the money to pay for expensive trainers (though could be blag I guess)
I've seen women in very short skirts or low cut dresses more suited for a night out.
fugelwoman@reddit
My SIL wore work out clothes to her grandmother funeral 🙄. But she’s trash
Greendeco13@reddit
Wow
Dazzling-Event-2450@reddit
I think you’re just dating someone whose family are really scruffy.
BigMasterDingDong@reddit
Sounds like you need to change who you’re hanging out with lol
YSNBsleep@reddit
I’m English I always dress up. Best thing about most Brits is they’re perfectly fine with what you wear. Do what you want.
Magical_Harold@reddit
I absolutely love that we seem to have dropped so much of the formal dress requirement, smart but casual all the way.
HighandMeaty@reddit
I see more casual than smart these days
Magical_Harold@reddit
As long as it’s not sports wear I much prefer the more casual attire.
Crivens999@reddit
Weddings and funerals. Everything else is just posh gits ;)
DotAffectionate87@reddit
You do you..... Sounds like this overly informal.
Polo shirts at a wedding?... Grief
Looking4DomTop@reddit
Depends who you’re with in Britain. Birthdays, Easters and Christmasses you’d definitely expect people to dress up even slightly. Sounds like your crowd seem particularly casual
Normal_Meat_5500@reddit
Pretty sure when I go out socialising. I've always dressed up for dinner, restaurants, pubs and get togethers and I look down on people who don't.
Low-Understanding119@reddit
It genuinely sounds like your groups and circles are more informal than most.
People always comment that I’m done up nicely and I often look more ‘put together’ than others even though I haven’t done much at all. Similar to you, culture dictates some of it and my background (Central Asia) means that I’ve always grown up with dressing up! Best thing I can liken it to is, think about Gloria from modern family. Would you rather be viewed like her or like Claire?
BxtchYouThought@reddit
I’m gonna guess you’re in the shittiest part of the UK you could possibly find.
TremendousCoisty@reddit
I’ve never not worn a kilt to a wedding and a shirt if I’m going out for a special dinner. I wouldn’t dream of wearing a polo shirt for a wedding. But if it’s a meal at home, I’d probably be pretty casual.
Eeefs123@reddit
Ba. A
jesus_mooney@reddit
I would not dress up for Christmas or Easter. These are children's days and spent building toys or hunting eggs and hanging out with family. Wedding on the other hand is nearly always full kilt with tweeds and all the accessories. Sometimes downgrade to a suit if the groom is not wearing a kilt. But i have only been to 3 weddings where its not been kilts.
fionakitty21@reddit
Christmas = some sort of glittery black dress (I've always dressed up for Xmas day, kids are in onesie or some such!). My bday, again, just with the family but will wear a nice dress. My eldest son is 16 next week and we are going out for dinner, so a nice dress will be worn!
Weak_Caterpillar5701@reddit
ITs who your hanign out with, if it was ment to be nice hoodie and trackshuit is not meal attiure
West-Kaleidoscope129@reddit
Not sure about anybody else but if I'm hosting something and people dress up for the occasion I take it as a compliment. It means they took time and effort into looking and feeling good for me.
Christmas I usually wear my pyjamas 🫣😂 I wake up early, shower, throw fresh pyjamas on and get cooking. I spend most of the day cooking so don't have time to change and usually get quite messy with food splashes etc, so I don't get dressed up. However, if I'm a guest at somebody else's Christmas (or other event) I get dressed up.
Recently I felt over dressed. A childhood friend passed away and the family kept the funeral quiet, they asked thst I didn't tell anybody else so I didn't. Usually for funerals I get dressed up so that's what I did. I arrived there to find everyone in casual clothing such as jeans, t-shirt etc. I felt super over dressed lol. If I had spoken with the other people I'd have got the memo about the attire being casual lol. But, even though I was over dressed I felt good about it. It was my friends last event, she deserved me attending in my best clothing looking good for her.
Don't worry about it. Generally people don't care if you're over dressed and it's always best to be over dressed than to turn up under dressed.
switch2591@reddit
Meals with close family are an informal setting in my family - so christmas and Easter it's "comfy clothes" as opposed to smart and formal. However, celebratory meals with extended family there is a bit more formality - usually the metric being smarter more formal the less familiar you are with them.
Weddings and funerals are formal attire unless requested otherwise. "Events" such as graduations, religious ceremonies, formal music halls, art gallery exhibitions and theatre is a case-by-case basis (religious ceremonies or attendance is always in my experience formal). So the late night opening of an art gallery/exhibition and/or going to see an international ballet company's performance of a famous story is a dress-up/dress smart occasion. However, popping in to an art showroom for 20 minutes to show your support and going to watch an am-dram production of Macbeth is more a casual event. It all depends on time (how long you are going to be there), the nature of the venue and event and whether of not you've planned it or if it's impromptu.
aceofpentacles1@reddit
Better to be overdressed every time than underdressed. That way you look amazing no matter what.
I can relate but honestly keep Doing you, some people just don't care that much about looking good and well... That's on them.
thatscotbird@reddit
I think this is an England problem, sorry. I know that comment will upset some people. People in Scotland always dress up. When you’re at weddings or abroad etc you can always tell who’s English and who’s Scottish 🙈
HighandMeaty@reddit
I'm English and I agree. I think the Scots need to stage an intervention.
fugelwoman@reddit
And the Welsh too - they dress up
skydanceris@reddit
What is wrong about polo shirts? Those are the de facto formal t-shirts
fugelwoman@reddit
It might just be who you hang with bc when I go to wedding and such people are dressing up.
I’d say too that I’ve been in the UK outside of England (wales etc) and people really dress up for many occasions. Like OTT dressing up.
mayonnaise68@reddit
huh, this does sound like, unusually informal. i haven't been to many weddings but people definitely dressed up at them. dresses, shirts, suits. in hot weather i can see most men wearing a shirt, but a polo is okay as long as its with nice trousers. no one in my family dresses up for christmas dinner but we wouldn't wear joggers. just something plain but not too informal.
at parties, gigs, clubs and stuff most people i know would absolutely take it as a chance to get all dressed up (in men's clothing terms that usually just means a plain t-shirt and trousers tho haha)
BookMingler@reddit
So your clothes would be I would wear to a lot of these events. I would agree with your friend that it may be the circles you’re in, particularly if they run on the younger side.
Mgloz2208@reddit
I don't think age has anything to do with it. There are plenty of young people, myself included, who love dressing up when they can. I think it's just the culture of how you're brought up - you either grew up being taught to dress nice for these occasions or you didn't.
cgknight1@reddit
It also can change with age - I'm 49 and still like to look smart but many of my mates have basically given up and just wear whatever their wives or girlfriends buy them from the supermarket or someone like JD sports.
bad_ed_ucation@reddit
I'd argue that even among younger people, they often do pick their moments to dress smartly - perhaps not for a family dinner, but for some kinds of social gathering or life events like weddings I do think people often quite like to dress up
Vegetable-Tough-8773@reddit
I do think family stuff can go either way and it's down to individual family culture. Some families see this as a chance to relax in an otherwise busy world, and some see it as a chance to dress up and celebrate. My family tend to be the relax type but I'd love it if we dressed up more, only my son is into that, but he tends to dress smartly every day.
Weddings is different though I think. I've never been to or worked at a wedding that wasn't formal except ones that were actually themed. If the theme happened to be quite casual it would have still required effort to meet the theme. I think evening receptions are starting to get a lot more relaxed though.
HugoNebula2024@reddit
It's a generational thing. We (this may be specifically Brits, or western society in general) are getting more casual. I remember going to nightclubs and even pubs in the 1980s where jeans or trainers weren't allowed. Now that's considered 'smart casual'.
You keep on being you. People are going to say, "there's spiritual_egg3900, she always looks so elegant".
Mgloz2208@reddit
It does depend on who you're with but I have noticed a trend in people not making an effort anymore.
I've never been to a wedding where people have dressed in anything less than suits and nice dresses, my family also always dress nice for Christmas dinner, nice meals out for birthdays etc.
However, at New Years my partner and I were invited to what was described to us as a party so we wore nice clothes - dress and a button down type thing - and literally everyone else was in jeans and t shirts. The hosts did say to us afterwards though that they wish they and everyone else had dressed up more at least, but I've definitely seen a sad trend towards people not caring to dress up anymore.
Mazza_mistake@reddit
It’s definitely the sort of people you’re around, or just the area you live in, most people I know wouldn’t be wearing hoodies to a nice family dinner
shanghai-blonde@reddit
Yeah same it’s weird isn’t it? I’m British myself but I find it odd.
TeaDrinkingBanana@reddit
Although people have stared at you, deep down they think, Damn I wish I wore that.
Reminds me of a story that Ryan Reynolds told on Graham Norton. His mum attended an awards ceremony and had lavish hair. She was reeling until Ryan asked Meryll Streep to compliment her. Then his mum felt wonderful and no longer out of place.
All it takes is a compliment and you own your style.
No_Software3435@reddit
Honestly, I’m surprised that they were wearing hoodies, et cetera on Christmas Day. That’s always a time not overdress but casual but smart. Just like how you described. I definitely think since sweats came in people have got much sloppier.
Virtual_Good_5148@reddit
You are not overdressed. Everybody else is just underdressed. Don't worry about it and have fun!
UncleSnowstorm@reddit
At the risk of sounding like a boomer, I've definitely noticed a trend away from dressing up. When I was a kid (90s) people would always dress up to go to a restaurant (collared shirt and smart jeans at least). Nowadays t shirt and joggers aren't uncommon at restaurants. Shirts were always worn on nights out.
Again going for Christmas dinner required dressing up, but now most people would wear joggers and a t shirt.
More recently (maybe last 10 years) I've noticed wedding attire being less and less formal. Last wedding I went to one (female) guest wore a white shirt dress, and not a nice looking thing either (genuinely just looked like she'd tied a belt around a men's shirt). Like you say people dressing in just polo shirts.
Interview wear has also become far less formal. I'm happy with this to some extent (who wants to wear a tie every day) but some people I've interviewed are taking the piss imo. Shirt and chinos should be the minimum for an office based interview.
Sazzimo@reddit
Are all your friends and family chavs???? (No offence!)
Side_wiper@reddit
There's no such thing as "overdressed", you're fine, if your drawing stares then that says more about the other person than it does about you
MoonLitMothCreations@reddit
Sometimes I get dressed to the nines to go to Tesco because why have beautiful clothes if I'm not going to wear them.
ambiuk21@reddit
Keep making an effort looking good, and remember that people notice — in a good way — because you look awesome
I’m starting to dress up again, and often the best dressed person in the group. People notice and admire you for it, so don’t stop
By dressing up, you’ll eventually find people who also share your sense of dressing up
Sometimes our friends organise a “fancy, fancy” night where everyone must dress up, so you could organise one, too. You’ll all love it
dmmeurpotatoes@reddit
Photo from my wedding.
I think a lot of British people are.... Not good at getting dressed smartly.
OverallResolve@reddit
What was the dress code?!
dmmeurpotatoes@reddit
I literally dragged out my kiddos scrapbook to check and our wedding invite says: “dress code: champagne picnic/cocktail attire".
Most people got the memo.
OverallResolve@reddit
Thanks! I’d be so embarrassed
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
Depends, is that the daytime do, or the evening do? 😆
The tux t-shirts probably a bit on the edge of acceptability to be honest. But what are you gonna do send them home.
joncowling@reddit
Unless it's a wedding, christening, or similar, you better believe I'm wearing shorts. Maybe jeans if you're very lucky.
Insila@reddit
I can tell you they do dress up on cruise ships. Even on the British budget lines.
BigBlueMountainStar@reddit
In the 90s when I was a teen, even the shittiest of nightclubs had a trousers, collar and shoes policy. It started to relax in the late 90s when i was at uni and jeans and trainers became allowable.
Back then it felt like every night out was dressing up!
PigeonQueen97@reddit
Whenever you want to, really. I've got a couple mates who come to the pub in a colourful 3-piece suit just because they feel like it. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting next to them in jeans and a hoody. But occasionally the feeling will take me and I'll put on some nice clothes and do my makeup. So, I guess for some people, it's more about what you feel like, compared to what's expected. My advice, if you wanna dress up, go for it! And if you don't feel like it, then don't worry about it. It's unlikely anyone will mind
nomoreplants@reddit
As someone who likes wearing vintage styles, I also find our lack of formality quite annoying 😆 I've been to weddings where people wear jeans, clubbing outfits and flip flops, and I used to feels uncomfortable but I realised if I'm always dressed up then maybe someone else will feel bad about not doing so and try harder next time? Lol I'm fully used to being overdressed nowadays though but it makes me feel happy so idgaf 🤷♀️
soapybob@reddit
It all depends on who you're hanging with. Sounds like your social group is super casual. That's fine. If you like dressing up, that's also fine. No judgements: wear what you want for you.
ShelizaA@reddit
My opinion as a British born woman (Asian background) who has lived in the UK forever (lol).
Who wears a hoody as a host?
Seriously, whenever we host, I always wear my rubbish clothes while cooking and jump in the shower and get ready maybe an hour before the guests come. I would atleast wear an English style dress or an Asian outfit before they arrive. No hoodies, (unless the boys are doing a BBQ and then they would wear that).
I'm confused, as I think it might just be the people you hang out with. Because weddings are also formal events, so people always wear their best (or mostly new) outfit and lots of jewelry, from the babies to the elderly people.
We specially go out to buy an outfit for the big events (weddings, Eid etc).
illarionds@reddit
It depends very much on your social circle. Yours does sound on the informal side - but also I think your expectations are probably slightly out of line.
Personally I wear a suit for weddings and funerals, that's about it. Many years ago I worked in a couple of "suit everyday" places - would never consider doing that again now.
Christmas - well, I might put on a shirt rather than a t-shirt.
I hate dressing up, I find it annoying, uncomfortable and just a waste of life really. Pretty happy the world - or at least this country - has become less and less formal over my lifetime.
Intelligent_Bar2345@reddit
Never, fuck your expectations of what I should wear.
Pitiful-City-8406@reddit
>Most people I've mentioned here would be considered middle class.
I can pretty much guarantee you, if they're wearing tracksuit bottoms to birthday gatherings and polo necks to weddings, they are NOT middle class in the slightest... no offence but it's giving Chav family get togethers.
MesoamericanMorrigan@reddit
As someone who grew up ion a council estate and dated a guy whose daddy was a lawyer for 6 years, for people who insist on having Rolexes and Ralph Lauren polo shirts, middle and upper class people really can be perplexingly rude and informal at the most confusing times. Then the one time you think it’s ok to dress down and relax like everyone else they all look at you like you’ve committed the greatest sin
durkheim98@reddit
Stop thinking of it as overdressed. You're refined. Nothing wrong with that.
OverallResolve@reddit
If you’re at a wedding and stand out because you’re dressed more formally than anyone else then you are over-dressed. It absolutely can be an issue. I don’t blame OP - there wasn’t a dress code.
It isn’t as simple as being the most formal/dressed up in the best, it’s about respecting your hosts and understanding what they want.
pinkthreadedwrist@reddit
They're just normal, really...
It's more that the friends are UNrefined than that OP is anything unusual
pinnnsfittts@reddit
It sounds specific to the people you mix with tbh, most people I know will dress up for such events.
I don't think anyone will be judging you for being "overdressed", they probably just can't help looking becasue it sounds like you look good.
At the end of the day it's not about reducing your standards to fit in with other people. I probably put the most effort in out of my group of mates but that's just who I am and I take pride in my appearance.
OverallResolve@reddit
Nothing too outrageous other the wedding IMO, which is unusual.
For family and friend type get togethers it can vary a lot, some people just like to be comfortable in these situations and don’t value dressing up. It was once a bigger part of our culture, and I feel like it started to change with those born post-WW2.
I’d wear smarter clothes for Sunday lunch with my grandparents, since they passed it’s much more normal clothes with parents, and I expect my generation and those after will continue the trend of being more casual.
There is a class element too, there are some friends and family members who I’ll always pack smarter clothes to see so as not to embarrass them through me under dressing.
At the end of the day if you care about it I think messaging the hosts to ask how formal it is will help.
louloubelle92@reddit
I like to be comfy day to day but if we get invited to my mums for a roast/bbq I’ll be dressing smarter, especially if extended family are there.
People wearing casual clothes to weddings are just slobby!
Tallicababe123@reddit
I'm uk, north west 39 female and I'm smart casual 90% of the time. I wear dresses most of the time. My mum is the same. I think I was raised to be mostly smart. I don't think I am more dressed up than my friends though. I will go to my friends houses more casual depending on weather and occasion. In winter I do tend to wear more jeans and sweatshirts as it's cold. Also if it's really hot shorts and a top. I do have some nice lacey summer dresses but if my friends have a dog that will pluck it I'm not wearing it lol.
SingerFirm1090@reddit
It varies, dare I say the examples you cite sound very 'working class', the middle classes tend to dress-up more for social occasions or weddings, indeed to the point of being a case of 'one-up manship' and overly competitive.
That said, there is a trend in some middle-class circles to try and appear less 'middle-class', perverse in some ways.
Emmiesship@reddit
Definitely the circles you are in. But also the Eastern European aesthetic can be um, quite Eastern European…. A lot of pleather, cheap crap and torn jeans which is never a good look. It’s how we dressed in the 80’s.
New_Plan_7929@reddit
As you’ve already heard from your European friends you are hanging out with people more inclined towards a casual dress. I would suggest they are not in fact middle class.
I’ve been to several wedding over the past few years and every one of them people are wearing nice dresses, heels, suits, shirts, and at least Derby shoes (if not a more formal Oxford). Admittedly some of the male guests including me were open collar but I think ties have become less common in the last 10 years or so.
As for diner with friends or even just my wife and children. If we are out at a restaurant we will dress appropriately, a nice fine dining experience we will be dressed in smart casual. For a pub it will probably be a shirt with jeans and clean trainers or boots in the winter.
Christmas Day is a different one, just me and the family we will spend half the day in lounge wear but usually shower and dress is casual wear for diner. If we have guests it will be a shirt and chinos, no shoes in the house though.
For work it can be anything from jeans and a hoody to shirts and chinos to cocktail attire to full black tie depending on the situation.
Fantastic_Back3191@reddit
You do you. If you look more fabulous than anyone else it can only be a good thing.
ValleyCommando@reddit
You need better friends.
Cartepostalelondon@reddit
I think you should be able to wear what you want as being smartly dressed is probably just a Victorian middle-class concept to bend to working class to their will. On the other hand, it saddens and annoys me greatly that people don't make an effort.
But that also makes me sound like a perv and/or part of the patriarchy as I like to see a woman in something which shows off her shape. And heels. Please don't judge me (actually, I don’t care if you do). At least I'm being honest.
BaBaFiCo@reddit
It's a really individual thing. My wife lives in joggers and baggy t-shirts, whereas I'll get dressed in trousers and a collared shirt or polo most days, even if I have no plans. At family events she always feels she needs to make an extra effort because we'll always wear a nice top or dress or shirt or something for Christmas whereas her family aren't like that as much.
Some of these examples surprise me, to be fair.
mentaldriver1581@reddit
I’m like your wife on the day-to-day: I like to be as comfortable as I can be. I do make an effort when going out, though.
Grand_Act8840@reddit
This. I’m a woman and wear joggers in the house 99% of the time but never when I’m actually going out, I’ll quickly change into jeans if I’m nipping out and then dress nicer if going out.
I wonder if clothing type plays a part - all the trousers I wear out of the house are high waisted (low/mid rise is not a look I can pull off) and high waisted is generally very uncomfortable to sit down in for long periods of time. Also, I can’t fathom wearing jeans for comfort.
Plus, if I’m in the house I’m usually pottering about cleaning, in the garden - I don’t want to ruin my good clothes.
BaBaFiCo@reddit
Each to their own. But I do love being able to just leave the house and go if something arises. Though that is sort of moot because I then have to wait for her...
GlitteringBreath6898@reddit
What is the social demographic of your boyfriend’s family? They sound either extremely old money or of a lower social demographic (the bizarreness of the UK).
I would have worn smart-casual, or smart (suit, tie) to every one of these events. Going to an event and being underdressed is far worse than being overdressed.
This week I went to an event and wore a suit and open collar shirt. Met some people before the event and they all said I was overdressed, I then got to the event and I was definitely underdressed. Imagine how the other people I was with looked, who thought I was overdressed!
Nicky2512@reddit
Brits are usually scruffy / casual for any but the most formal occasions. It has gradually evolved over the last 70 years
AcanthocephalaOk3991@reddit
This is a "them" problem. What's the worse that can happen? You get known as "that girl that always dresses nice"?
AxionSalvo@reddit
We are all miserable and have given up. Sorry.
NeoFury84@reddit
Wedding. Court. Funeral.
Loud_Ad_9187@reddit
We dress up for going out on a night out. For weddings funerals baptisms church. It really depends on the family you are visiting. Hoodies isn't middle class wear I think you think middle class is lower than it is
Underwritingking@reddit
I'm with you on this one, and most of my family would be as well
Chimpy20@reddit
Going around to someone's house for dinner isn't a big deal, even if it is Christmas or Easter. Unless they said specifically it was dress-up event most people just go in their everyday clothes. It's about being with friends and family. I wear sweatpants or shorts around the house most of the time, and I would put some jeans on to go to someone's house for dinner, but that's about it. There's nothing wrong with hoodies and trainers, it's just what people wear day-to-day.
I suspect it may be a generational thing as my late parents would usually put their best clothes on to go out. But I think these days it's about being relaxed with friends and family.
I would always wear formal suit to a wedding or funeral etc. I think most people would.
Otherwise_Hunter8425@reddit
I disagree slightly - going round to dinner isn't a big deal and if it was going to a close friend or family for Sunday dinner then I wouldnt be "dressing up" so I could probably be in jeans and a hoodie.
But if it is an "event" like Christmas, Easter, birthday etc then I would expect to dress a bit nicer - again not going to be in an evening dress but definitely my nicest jeans and a blouse or casual tea dress and cardigan rather than a hoodie or trackies.
Mukatsukuz@reddit
Same here - I would definitely be wearing my smartest jeans and a nice top, rather than my usual t-shirts but I wouldn't be dressing up as such. It would still be casual, not smart casual but my nicest casual casual.
Abject_Shoulder_2773@reddit
Same here, I never thought about dressing up to have some roast dinner with my family. Christmas isn't really that big of an event, it happens every year.
AWhistlingWoman@reddit
It is quiiite a big event..?
Abject_Shoulder_2773@reddit
But it's nothing extraordinary, have a roast dinner, exchange gifts and watch tv, every time.
Weddings and funerals are usually a one off occasions.
AWhistlingWoman@reddit
I think you’re being a little obtuse. For all of recorded and unrecorded history, humans have held annual celebrations of the seasons. More recently we’ve also started celebrating birthdays. The fact that these things are annual doesn’t make them less special. For most people and societies, annual celebrations are the high points of the year - eagerly anticipated as moments to come together, and have special food and activities that are not common for the rest of the year. We usually decorate our homes, eat special foods, have special music, have special events, give gifts, aaand… often wear special clothes.
pullingteeths@reddit
It's literally the UK's undisputed biggest event of the year and being a host who invited guests is different to just celebrating with your family.
FinalEgg9@reddit
Same, the responses here are crazy to me. It's never occurred to me that I'd need to dress in something other than my everyday casual clothes just to go have a roast dinner with family.
ObjectiveHornet676@reddit
Totally. The idea of dressing in formal clothes to spend time with friends or family is totally bizarre to me. I'm quite surprised by many of these responses!
cine@reddit
I agree. The wedding example in her post is a weird one out, but generally, I find people are quite informal for events hosted at someone's house. Whether it's easter dinner or Christmas lunch, a meal at home isn't a dressy event in my experience here.
Whereas if you were going out for a nice meal for a special occasion, e.g. a birthday, I would be expect people to dress up a little more.
SarkyMs@reddit
As a Brit who loves dressing up fecking never that is when.
I have been overdressed at every event since I was 14 in the 80s and it is getting worse.
Fuck COVID and people now wearing their jammies out
BmuthafuckinMagic@reddit
Jammies and those thick slippers as well.
I work in a uni and so many students wore those slippers to graduation and not after having any type of dress shoe or heels before.
SarkyMs@reddit
I think I might sound a bit like an Edwardian dame complaining about flapper dress, but I don't care.
StressedOldChicken@reddit
Showing off their ankles!! 😄
Mukatsukuz@reddit
How brazen! I must avert my gaze
Phospherocity@reddit
I do think Covid shifted something.
AWhistlingWoman@reddit
I love being overdressed. Like you I’ve spent my life being in that position. I just lean into it. Shall I wear my fur stole for this trip to the supermarket? Yeah. Why not? And now, the older I get and the fewer occasions I attend, the more I think - wear your party dresses whenever the heck you want, in case it stops fitting 😂
chevalliers@reddit
Lots of very scruffy dress these days. On the plus side it's easy to stand out and make an impression. Also, style is often a feature of wealth so it may depend on the income levels of who you hang out with.
zipitdirtbag@reddit
Try asking about the dress code BEFORE when it comes to family events.
Not all British families will be the same for family events, like spending Christmas day together. You can't presume so just ask. Some people will dress up if that's a tradition they have for their family. Some don't even get out of their PJs. It's a personal thing.
For weddings, you'd expect it to be formal unless you were told otherwise. Not much you can do there. Worth asking in advance but also take time of day, location, size of wedding, age of people getting married etc into account.
snowdroptiger@reddit
I’m inclined to agree it’s the circles you’re moving in (I don’t mean this to be rude) as these examples surprised me. I went to my boyfriend’s families Easter celebration (his grandma cooked Easter lunch for about 12 people) and all the men wore chinos & a shirt and women wore a nice tea dress style situation. I wore a green midi dress and a little cardigan and felt I’d got that right. Weddings are usually pretty fancy amongst my friends. Men guaranteed in suits unless the invitation specified not too and women in dresses and heels.
I do agree we’ve sorta lost the art of dressing for the theatre as a nation which is something I find mildly sad (and confusing as I was always forced into a dress for theatre trips as a child). But I don’t think I’d go all the other way to trackies for the theatre. I just might now consider some “smart” jeans and a jumper acceptable whereas when I was a kid I was very much told jeans were not theatre wear.
HatOfFlavour@reddit
If I'm going to someone's house I'm not dressing up unless it's a theme of the party but I won't be in work level clothes.
If we're going to a restaurant I consider posh then buttoned shirt, suit trousers, blazer if it's cold. But fuck ties and shiny shoes if I can get away with it.
Weddings, funerals, baptisms(or other religious equivalent) unless told otherwise full formal suit, tie, shoes, waistcoat maybe.
Ladies seem to dress up more for nights on the town or some Hen do's.
Some people enjoy dressing up for the theatre.
I wear a full suit for job interviews.
TuMek3@reddit
Incoming comments relating the Britains class structure in 3, 2, 1, go.
SarreMolloy@reddit
Hoodies at Christmas? Polo shirts to weddings? Are you hanging out with chavs?
I’m from the south west (farmer land) and every single Christmas we dress up (after presents in PJs of course), events we dress to the nines, even some birthdays we use as excuses for black tie dress codes!
KoorbB@reddit
Your examples are on the extreme side. In my experience the events you’ve listed should foster some kind of dress code and what you’ve described as wearing seems normal. I do think as a general point that society’s values are slowly eroding, your example being one.
caprimum@reddit
If you lived in Liverpool this would not be the case at all
MaximumSeesaw2626@reddit
I have a theory on this, maybe I’m wrong… but you’re absolutely right many (not all) brits just don’t make an effort with appearance and I think it’s down to their school years. When you goto school in the UK even if they do have a uniform it’s like a pair of trousers or skirt of some colour and a jumper with maybe a polo shirt and whatever black shoes or trainers (that’s if they have any uniform at all) my friends from many other countries had to wear ironed shirts, polished shoes and if they didn’t look smart they would be reprimanded. This happens from an early age and programs you to ensure you present well everyday before you leave the house or risk bringing shame on the family name. That plus things like compulsory military service where you need to look sharp etc. anyway that’s my take.
Defiant-Ad1432@reddit
I went to a funeral the other day with my husband. I wore a long black dress, he wore a black suit. Apart from 3 close family members in attendance we stood out like sore thumbs. Jeans, trackies and trainers galore.
I'm British born and raised.
BethanaMaria@reddit
I’m Welsh and I’m always dressed up, I’m not the norm though, I just love it
Extension_Dark9311@reddit
I would say that with the weddings I’ve always been to (I’m 29) me and my boyfriend have always dressed very formal and not been underdressed, he’s been in a full suit and tie with waistcoat and I’ve been in heels and a full length dress.
With the meals at peoples houses, this is where I also would dress very casually, but it depends… I am invited around to family meals all the time, weekly or bi-weekly so it’s just a normal thing for us, and we do all wear hoodies etc. to me, I think the distinction is between going out the house or staying in, if I’m staying in my home or going to somebody’s else’s home, I’ll assume it’s pretty casual and I’d rather be comfortable and cosy. If I’m going out of the house for a meal, that’s where the smart casual dress code comes in.
giggs91@reddit
I think this family are just really basic and not a fair reflection on most people
Annual_Dimension3043@reddit
I always dress up for Christmas, gatherings even bbq's. But I seem to be the odd one out 😅 I've noticed most people stick to casual and informal. But I've never felt comfortable being in public or a social setting without making an effort with my appearance. Just the way I am.
Fun-Marionberry9907@reddit
It’s not a British thing. Husband and I, both 100% British. First funeral on my husband’s side I bought a new black dress (I had just had a baby and nothing fit) and my husband was like lol why. Everyone was in hoodies and jeans/joggers. I was shocked.
My sister in law and her kids/husband turned up to my (admittedly small and informal registry office/hotel) wedding in jeans. She wore a nice top. Kids in stained hoodies. My family and our friends on both sides came in nice dresses/heels/shirts
Now, I don’t actually care beyond being surprised. But it’s not how anyone I was raised with would dress for a special occasion. We don’t dress up for Christmas Day but we still would wear a nice outfit, not leisurewear. And you would absolutely not dress informally in a church setting, despite the fact we are not religious at all.
TL;DR not British, possibly class though?
CanIRumInYourMouth@reddit
Weddings: usually a dress for women and suit for men or at least a shirt and blazer as a minimum if you’re at the daytime do/ceremony. Christmas and Easter Dinner: in our household we dress up a little for this. Women in dress or nice blouse , jeans are okay and men in shirt. Little Children not so much but our 6 year old wears a party dress. Not everyone does this and it’s their house their rules but if you’re going out somewhere for it then you’d look rather stupid / low class in a hoodie.
I think your experience is more the exception than the rule and you would certainly be dressed appropriately as one of my guests from what you’re saying.
Federal-Addendum-223@reddit
As rarely as possible tbh.
SilverHinder@reddit
We used to dress up too, but since around 2016, hoodies and joggers invaded all areas of life, the pandemic only made it worse. People just don t make the effort anymore.
bunnyswan@reddit
It's London, people wear what they are comfortable in don't let other people's style dictate yours. This city you can see lots of people dressed up and not so dressed up at the same event it's nbd.
oitekno23@reddit
Weddings are almost always formal affairs, whereas all the family, friends and extended family events (Christmas, Easter etc) are smart casual to whatever you're comfortable in to my mind, depending on the individuals, and to a lesser degree the etiquette of the people you're around (although I think most people don't look down on people who aren't really scruffy or really overdressed, so you can be slightly glam as long as it's not super formal and uncomfortable looking I would guess without anyone caring too much that they look underdressed next to you)
Mikeymcmoose@reddit
Dressing up for Christmas is weird and I am shocked to see so many snobs in here looking down their noses at the poors. A Christmas jumper and comfortable bottoms is all you need. It’s literally my own families and friends ffs. For birthdays, unless it’s specifically a dress code then it doesn’t matter. Weddings are different; but if the couple says casual then don’t moan about it and respect their wishes.
fuckedsince1991@reddit
I think I’m waiting for my funeral tbh
Single_Conclusion_53@reddit
I don’t know why this appeared in my feed as I’m an Australian in Australia. However, whenever I’m in England visiting friends and family I’m amazed by how frequently people do dress up compared to Australians.
Good_Ad_1386@reddit
OP has low-rent friends?
Late_Curve6075@reddit
It sounds like you’re hanging around with people who don’t really care about how they look. That all sounds off to me. I’m definitely like you!
ManicPixiRiotGrrrl@reddit
My partner’s family is like this and it drives me mad!
The first christmas I spent with them, I wore a nice top and skirt (which was underdressed for my family christmas but I’d been told to tone it down) I get there and everyone is in jeans and hoodies and I was the most overdressed by a mile. Same thing happened at his grandparents 50th anniversary meal the other month, his brother’s gf was literally in a hoodie and ripped leggings.
One time I had to get him to tell to his brother that trackies were not appropriate trousers for the auntie’s funeral and he threw changed into jeans since those were the only other black bottoms he had.
I genuinely get so anxious when I get dressed to go to his family events because I know I must look like a stuck up tryhard to them not it’s so hard not to when they would wear trackies to a 5 star restaurant if they could get away with it.
Big-Yam8021@reddit
I went to a family funeral last year, and an uncle turned up in ripped skinny jeans. One of my cousins has worn jeans to 2 funerals. It's largely chavs doing it.
Ok-Search4274@reddit
You need better friends
Competitive_Papaya11@reddit
This isn’t “Brits” this is, specifically, the people you are hanging out with.
My ( Irish) family dress for dinner if we are eating in on a holiday, or having guests over, ever.
And weddings are black tie if ceremony is after 5pm, morning or business suits if before.
We’re upper middle class (grammar schools, racehorses, rowing and regattas, gap years, skiing: but no titles, no trust funds, no boarding schools, no live in nannies).
NotSynthx@reddit
Honestly, most people don't care
acnebbygrl@reddit
As someone who lived in Japan for a couple years and recently came back, I agree with you. However, I still get dressed up cause idc what others things. Honestly I encourage you to do the same. It isn’t embarrassing to make the effort, it sets the bar for others!
MartyDonovan@reddit
I completely understand how you feel, I think I feel the same, no one really seems to dress up any more. Could be exacerbated by COVID, but I remember it happening before.
Everyone who used to wear a suit to work probably works from home now, even when I go into work my manager wears jeans and a button down shirt so I'd feel overdressed in anything more. Ties are a thing of the past.
An exception is maybe meeting clients if you're a solicitor or something, but even then it depends on the company and it's probably done over zoom half the time now.
I usually like to dress up a bit to go out for a meal or event, even if that does just mean wearing a button down shirt rather than a t-shirt. But most men just seem to wear wear t-shirts and jeans, and I don't really like standing out or drawing attention to myself too much.
Tracksuit bottoms and pajamas I just think are a bit too casual and slovenly to wear in public, but a lot of people seem to prioritise comfort these days, like they're lounging around at home on the sofa or in bed.
In my experience however, the exception is weddings. All the ones I've been to people make an effort and wear suits and dresses. But there are all sorts of people in this country and so I can well imagine some go for a more casual wedding.
Christmas and Easter dinner I can kind of understand, because these celebrations take place at home and half the 'fun' is after the sit down dinner where you're hanging around on the sofa drinking, snacking, playing games, watching films, etc. But I'd probably dress a bit better if I had guests, and make it more like a dinner party atmosphere with party games than just the family lounging at home.
sqolb@reddit
No, you are just observing the great unspoken topic of... Class
SmartDiscussion2161@reddit
I had an interview today over Teams. Put a shirt on for the big event, wondering if I should also be wearing a tie and blazer. Interviewer logged on wearing a football shirt 😂
neverbound89@reddit
I went to a wedding where people were drinking vodka out of a Sprite bottle, casual clothes and one guests arrived by quad bike. I have also attended a wedding where the wedding cost more than my house and everyone was well dressed. The lesson learnt from this is ask someone what the vibe of the day's occasion is.
As a brief aside British people do appear to be leaning towards the casual look including in office spaces but it's not universal so just ask the question because it's heavily context dependent.
TattieMafia@reddit
It's fine to do both in the UK. Sometimes I'm more dressed up than my friends and I stand out a bit, but it's not offensive to anyone. Sometimes I turn up very casual and everyone is more dressed up. You can't really match unless you know the other people going and share pictures beforehand.
CaptainHope93@reddit
It sounds like we hang out in similar circles. Unless smart dress is explicitly stated, it’s not smart dress.
joined_under_duress@reddit
If you go to live music then its jeans and a t-shirt generally. You're likely to get berr spilled on you and what if you're in the mosh?
Weddings are usually dress up, yeah, but it would depend on the invite I guess?
Hoodies is vague: some can look rough as guts, others can cost 100 quid. Good fabric in plain colours isn't un-smart because it's a hoodie.
imincarnate@reddit
I tend to dress smart by default so I don't change what I wear for a BBQ or friend/family birthdays unless it's an actual event. A wedding is different. I go full on at a wedding... these days it's one of the only excuses I get to really dress well.
mata_dan@reddit
It's different circles, and the type of event but that also varies in circles.
I also do a fair bit of second hand shopping and actively try to look at least decent for my normal look anywhere away from home just because I want to. But I'm around people who do all sorts, if there was some kind of event with some of them then I'd have to figure it out from that specific circle of people.
hellomynameisrita@reddit
As an American, even though I try to dress nicer than is my habit when invited to such things, I always end up feeling like I'm not dressed up enough, just not quite hitting the mark. I'm a blue jeans and t-shirt person and the minute I'm in a skirt or dress I feel like I'm beyond dressed up, but then we get there and I look like someone going to a basic clerical job while others looks like they are going to an event. So I do think it might be the general crowd you are involved with, and like even I could look good if I was going to those events with you.
Although it does seem like there is always someone in a hoodie at every gathering, but it's usually someone's teenager or child, rarely adults.
Yolandi2802@reddit
I dress up for weddings. I dress appropriately for funerals. I dress nicely for theatre events. I dress comfortably for family gatherings. I dress however I feel like the rest of the time.
Unlikely_Ad7542@reddit
Sounds like you’re friends with very casual people. I dress up everyday, life is too short!
eyeball2005@reddit
Any chance you live in Grimsby
HalfAgony-HalfHope@reddit
I think maybe you have odd friends. I've never rocked up to Christmas dinner in sweat pants and a hoodie. And family meals are usually smart/casual. Jeans and a shirt are fine for men, trackie pants is not. I always get fully dressed up for weddings, except for my cousins, whose wedding was in a literal barn on a dairy farm and it was very festival-chic.
One-Ad-4136@reddit
I’d say, in general, Brits are less dressy than Eastern Europeans. But what you’re describing isn’t an average Brit. Weddings usually require a suit and tie (unless otherwise stated). You can be comfortable during a family dinner, but if extended family comes over for a birthday celebration, you don’t wear joggers
Alert_Ad_5750@reddit
Are you sure you’re not just hanging out with a bunch of chavs??
Annabelle_Sugarsweet@reddit
Liverpool, Essex and Newcastle, the ladies dress up for most things!
Mr_Woofles1@reddit
You do you!
Peter_gggg@reddit
62 m married - Cheshire
UK is definitely getting more casual.
My dads' generation never went out without a suit jacket and tie and polished shoes
I was in Manchester last week, and even the business people in suits, are not wearing ties
However , families define their own rules, and all the weddings i've been to, fellas have been in smart trousers, shirts and some ties. Women in shoes hats and dresses, often with hats
Liverpool weddings are a level up gain, especially the girls, who go all out with bags, hair, nails & makeup
I'm not sure if there are rules any more, abut I also think the reis less demand to conform to a set of formal rule. If you want to wear jeans and hoodies to a wedding reception , thats fine. if you want to get a dress, shoes, jewellery and hat, knock yourself out.
People will always look at what other people wear at weddings, and some may be staring out of unfamiliarity , or just jealousy.
Emergency-Ad-5379@reddit
I've never really cared for clothes or dressing formally, hate ironing and have one suit for everything formal.but even I know jogging bottoms are becoming a plague in public. The very minimum is jeans. However I would find it difficult to tell when I am going to be underdressed ahead of time other than a wedding, so I generally try to avoid those types of situations as I don't want to stand out.
Never felt the need to dress up for a family dinner for Easter/Christmas/birthdays other than maybe clothes that aren't too worn and a nicer jacket.
sillyyun@reddit
Your friends lack class darling
megasin1@reddit
Weddings, job interviews, funerals, day at the races, fancy dates at nice restaurants, like anniversary, any birthday that ends with zero (20, 30, 70), business events, meetings with clients, maybe baptism if you're into that. Otherwise wear what you want
The_sinking_anus@reddit
You're classy & like to make an effort, it's on them not you. Don't stop.
eclo@reddit
I swear there is a certain type of British middle class people who just dress like crap, but because they're not 'common' they get away with it more. I can't quite describe it, but a sort of niche micro demographic that once you notice it you can't stop noticing it.
Ok-Conversation-3688@reddit
I've noticed over the years that people don't tend to dress up as much to go out. I grew up in the late 80s/90s and it was normal to dress up to go to the cinema or the theatre. Now barely anyone makes an effort to dress a bit more formal to go to the theatre. Same with events, dining out etc. I think the pandemic compounded it as well. I'm still trying to figure out how to dress myself after wearing house clothes for months!
The_sinking_anus@reddit
It's simply how you dress, don't stop.
Shannoonuns@reddit
Christmas and Easter is normally pretty casual but I'm shocked by the wedding.
The most casual I've seen at a wedding was like bedazzled or white box fresh converse or doc martens for the bride and a few guests with a nice denim or leather jackets over a dress or suit. Like its more cool than casual. Most people make an effort up for a wedding.
I have to admit people do seem to dress up less, like night club attire is very plain these days. Maybe we are putting in less effort? 🤷🏼♀️
Brynden_Tullys@reddit
In my experience, that seems a bit too casual. I wouldn’t dress up per se for family dinners, but I’m at least wearing jeans and a nice top. Meals out, theatre trips etc I take the opportunity to dress nicely, a dress and some jewellery etc. In my experience it goes without saying that you wear formal wear to weddings and funerals, unless specified otherwise.
Steve8557@reddit
I think almost all weddings I’ve ever been to I’ve worn a suit and tie or variations of!
claretkoe@reddit
I think it's more the people you are socialising with than the norm. Even for Xmas dinner at home we would make an effort to put a nice outfit on.
Dinner or drinks at friends, we would get dressed up. Shirt and jeans/trousers for me, dress etc for wife.
Certainly weddings or christenings I'd be questioning tie or no tie depending on the weather, other wise it's trousers/shirt/suit territory
maceion@reddit
Only put on my kilt, when i go haggis bashing.
kirkbywool@reddit
Just get up to Liverpool, women here seem to go all out.
Joking aside though I think that it's the people you know rather than a British thing
Milky_Finger@reddit
I think the work uniform has become very casual over the years, which means that there are sometimes months between occasions where someone in their 20s will have a reason to wear a shirt. I wear a cashmere or merino jumper at work in a dark colour, with either chinos or indigo jeans. It's casual but when im sitting in a boardroom, my top half looks neater and nobody has to look at my new balances under the table while they're discussing company finances.
But it means I can go anywhere after work and not feel overdressed. I like this new UK work culture, it lets me focus on other things.
BrawDev@reddit
I turned up to an engagement party smart casual, thinking I had dressed up too lightly for it, and there were people kicking about in trackies.
There really is no standard, or bar. I think wherever you go is just going to be completely random lol.
DonkeyMountain2594@reddit
Better to be overdressed than underdressed. Wear what makes you feel good.
dolphineclipse@reddit
I think the casual dress at a wedding is weird, but less so the Christmas / Easter dinners which seem more like relaxed events where you'd want to be comfortable
Goldf_sh4@reddit
British don't often dress up.
KingofCalais@reddit
Weddings,funerals and Ascot ill wear a suit, things like graduations, interviews, conferences id wear a smart shirt. Dinner with friends and family, or anyone else tbh, id wear normal clothes. Wearing a polo at a wedding is wild.
justwanttojoinin@reddit
So in my experience (from a working class background), gatherings with family has always been quite informal. If gatherings included lots of extended family it goes up a notch maybe but never anything particularly special.
Weddings I always find intimidating because the dress codes vary wildly. I always ask for specifics. Some have been formal but quite understated, others have been dressier.
Music events I think will vary. Any type of gig/concert with standing room I would expect lots of very casual/comfortable clothes. Something fully seated I'd expect dressier.
I honestly would just ask.
Suspicious_Banana255@reddit
Ask beforehand if it is casual or more formal/dressed up. Something in someone's home during the day is likely to be casual, going out in the day smart casual, evening more dressed up but depends on the venue and event, can still be smart casual. If you aim for smart casual for everything you're usually ok.
Stopfordian-gal@reddit
Said the exact same thing only last week. Went to the theatre. May as well have been in a queue for the public loos. What’s the matter with people? It’s nice to dress up, look your best when going out. How can you not, never used to be this bad. Italian and French dress to impress, British dress to be drab & dull.
Fit-Technology-9592@reddit
Come to Essex! We love to dress up
Vegetable_Orchid_492@reddit
I went to a funeral where most of the mourners, including the widow, were wearing football shirts.
A wedding where the guests were forbidden from wearing hats, fascinators, scintillators etc.
A visit to the opera where most of the audience looked as if they'd come directly from a shift at the scrapyard.
I will put a codicil in my will to say that I want the mourners to be in deepest black with hats and veils.
tobotic@reddit
Weddings and funerals would normally be formal wear. I'm not entirely sure what went wrong with the weddings you attended.
Birthdays, Easter, Christmas are casual, though if you're inviting people outside the family, you'd probably go smart casual.
PerfectCover1414@reddit
I won't go anywhere without dressing up in some way. It doesn't have to be fancy but it's nice to feel and look nice. The easiest thing to do when you feel crappy. But then I also make clothes and hats for my living and will never refuse the chance to wear a hat!
eralcilrahc@reddit
I don't dress up to go to my own families houses if we're just staying in. With my family at Christmas we just eat, drink and reminisce. I'm not gonna wear anything that won't accommodate my stuffed belly.
If I was going to someone else's house for an occasion then yes, I'll make an effort. If I'm going in public for an occasion then yes, I'll make an effort.
But my own family, nah they can watch me eat my own body weight in pigs and blankets in my gravy stained hoodie at Christmas, idc.
Ashamed_Fix9652@reddit
Go to the races on ladies day, people really go to town there.
HippyWitchyVibes@reddit
I don't wear makeup but my husband and I would both dress up for all those occasions, personally.
Life_Walrus_4780@reddit
I've learned that this varies a lot by family - and I'm a Brit. My parents and I tend to be among the best dressed at events, and we're not wealthy and my mum and I aren't the kind of women to ever "get our hair done" or wear much make up - we'll just put a bit of effort in and wear something nice. But my partner's family and my ex's are/were extremely causal - bordering on annoyingly so at times, and there's been plenty a time when I've felt overdressed at their gatherings. But I would rather put effort in for nice events like new year's eve, even if I'm very much in the minority.
Princess__Buttercup_@reddit
Polo shirts at a wedding is diabolical! This isn’t normal, OP
FarGuide2581@reddit
It sounds a little bit like a bit of the circles your in, what looks good to them differs. Maybe the brand of the hoodie is what they value, or logo on the polo shirt? I do find Eastern European dress sense is fairly glam, more manicured and focussed on looking the most attractive. Whereas I think I spend most my energy figuring out what is appropriate for the occasion, looking effortless takes a lot of effort.
badmotherhubbard69@reddit
It sounds to me like your friends need to change up their dress sense. Even if “shabby chic” is still a thing, the basics still count. Slightly scruffy Gucci loafers look far better than £10 rubbish new ones. My kind of girl, go well!
TeHNeutral@reddit
It's quite rare for a dinner at home to require dressing up, and I'd say people certainly dress up less than previous generations.
Normally dinner out somewhere fancy, a wedding, that type of thing. When I was younger people definitely seemed to include a lot more parties and events under the smart casual banner.
Travel-Barry@reddit
Oh, we dress so badly. So many football shirts and tracksuits.
Found myself so jealous and in aw in Japan of just how immaculately dressed everybody was.
I genuinely think we only dress smart if (a) your work requires it; (b) you have/are attending a life event (wedding, wake, etc); or an upper level event like Wimbledon or Royal Ascot.
goldensnow24@reddit
Imagine wearing hoodies and tracksuit bottoms when you have guests over at Christmas. They’re the fools, not you.
HollywoodBrownMusic@reddit
Sign of the times. Look at nightclub pictures from the early 90s or 80s and everyone looks smart. I often feel overdressed too, but I'm oldschool so what can you do.
dynodebs@reddit
A number of years ago I went to a registry office wedding where my sis-in-law and I wore smart summer dress and jacket outfits, with hats. The pregnant bride wore the same stained dress she wore to the hen party the night before where she drank more than I did. Her brother, the best man, turned up in his bike leathers.
Not all weddings are like that - that's the worst dressed wedding I've ever been to.
nervous_veggie@reddit
You need to find classier friends…
bright_sword@reddit
I'm sorry ,this is not normal British behaviour. You are hanging out with scruffs, I'm afraid.
SnooCheesecakes3213@reddit
Set your sights higher
JimmyBallocks@reddit
Immune_eva@reddit
Me and you! I feel like I am a freak if I wear heels. People are literally staring at me like I am an alien. I come from another country where people dress up all the time and I have just learned that I should keep to be myself and not care what other think
Agitated-Equal-8162@reddit
I do think it's changed over the years. I was always brought up to be at the least 'smart' when attending any kind of event or occasion - to make some sort of additional effort. Now - fuck me some of the sites you see!
verycoldpenguins@reddit
I think unless you are going to go and muck out the pigs for a day, wearing a dress is not being overdressed. I don't think anyone should complain about a lady trying to look pretty so long as it's not clown like!
I would say that standards have dropped significantly over the last 20 years. (I would have probably have started being aware about 30 years ago).
I reckon it accelerated during covid lockdown as people didn't bother because no one was seeing them.
I think for things that historically would have been 'religious' it depends a lot on the family. The ladies in my close family don't generally wear much make-up, but will do and a dash of perfume for Christmas/Easter. They will generally wear a light/summery dress for family occasions too. For the men, it would tend to be smart trousers and a shirt. A wedding would be suit and tie.
Scarboroughwarning@reddit
I love to dress up for occasions, but I feel your pain. That said, as a bloke, the options are vastly more limited.
AttersH@reddit
Varies my family/friends I recon. We don’t dress up for say Christmas or a meal at my family’s house. Christmas is jeans/Christmas jumper! Sunday lunch, whatever you want. Jeans & hoody for me usually. It’s my parents house, I’m going casual!
Going out for a meal, deffo somewhat of an effort. I’m not a dress wearer, so it’ll be jeans/nice top/jumper. I tend to wear trainers as I hate heels but does depend on the restaurant!
Weddings, I’ve never been to a non-formal wedding. I’ve always worn a smart dress & men have been in suit trousers, shirts, ties!
Ultimately, I value comfort over style 😂 if I can get away with comfies, I’m wearing them!
Cross_examination@reddit
When the Queen visits for tea. And maybe not even then.
reddit_junkie23@reddit
I think British dress is quite eccentric generally. People express themselves in all sorts of weird and wacky ways.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but dress code is also sometimes driven by social class, and there is nothing Brits seem to love and fall back on more than social class.
Two sides of the family. One a bit more well to do I have noticed family gathering are definitely more smart casual. Men in shirts, ladies in nice fitted outfit, make up and hair done.
The other side jeans, hoodies etc regardless of occasion.
I feel you it's really hard to know sometimes!
Mixed_Fabrics@reddit
I would expect to dress smartly for a wedding or other formal occasion.
But Christmas is not a smart dress day for me - I just wear a Christmas jumper and jeans. But, for context, I don’t leave the house 😅
destria@reddit
I would say that we do have a maybe more casual dress code to most functions. The formal occasions I can think of are weddings, funerals, graduation, maybe some specific work events like awards ceremonies (though more business formal), balls and things like the Henley regatta or big horse races. I would say things like family meals, birthdays, minor celebrations, people tend to be either casual or at best, in smart casual dress.
pizzaosaurs@reddit
Not sure who your engaging with or where you are based but there huge differences in dress code based on where abouts you are based to social circles.
There's Essex girls which is thick make up, vagazzling, big hair and lots of dressing up, Sloan Square girls which is think posh, rich girls in simple but fancy k and very expensive) who will slip into a gown at any mention of a formal event.
Seo girlies, who all wear those heels with the red coloring underneath (I don't know the name but they all have them).
Then you have chavs and other groups were informal dress is seen as showing off social standing. Remember growing up when if it didn't have three stripes... You got bullied for not wearing Adidas. Heaven forbid if you wore anything Nike...
There's other groups through who are dropping formalities of dress and going for comfort. The nurospicy crew is very much here. It is a trend that's growing as people are coming together more and just not caring.
So it really depends where you are based and who you are with. It's not a UK thing as a whole though. The UK is a boiling pot of a lot of communities with accents and attitudes changing drastically in a small area. Same for fashion.
Guerrenow@reddit
Londoners are scruffs
Helgamine@reddit
I'm old (51f) but I overdress for everything, shamelessly. I love 40/50s style, that's when when women were classy. I dress up, wear with pride and get lots of compliments. Wear what makes you happy and you'll always be right for the occasion..... I'll be doing the same if I make it to old age!!!!
Sufficient_Gear5865@reddit
People here dress like sh!T. Especially for male. Male here dress like they are going to rob
Ok_Parsley_4961@reddit
While I agree that your friends sound more informal than Brits I hang out with, even for a chic evening hotel wedding, there were a lot of people who were wearing day dresses. The high street shops also seem to sell less formal dresses under occasion attire. I’m also kind of Eastern European though (Turkish lol does that count?) so my idea of formal might be different.
(I’m excluding men in this narrative as most Scotsmen I know tend to look sharp with their kilts in occasions)
Psychological-Long-5@reddit
Personally, never.
CloudIncus1@reddit
Every occasion you have mentioned was in a private residence bar the weddings. Weddings are smart. Jewellery detracts in most cases I feel.
The home dinners. Christmas is a huge meal. With lost of drinks. Last thing my family wants in trousers we cant let the top button pop on. We want comfort so we can enjoy the games in. Same for most family meals. Its not worth the time spent.
Now going out is different. You are not dressing up for your family. You are dressing up for how others perceive your family.
CaterpillarLoud8071@reddit
For a wedding or funeral you definitely dress up, dress or suit and tie. For any sort of night out or event that involves dinner I'd go in smart casual, shirt and nice jeans or chinos. But extended family dinners at home like Christmas or Easter generally are comfy clothes but not slovenly. Cosy wear and themed jumpers at Christmas is normal. But maybe this depends how well you know your extended family!
trysca@reddit
Covent Garden Opera, Fashion Week, Shopping on Mayfair - that's pretty much it
soopertyke@reddit
If I'm at a formal or even semi-formal event I dress smartly, my shoes are polished and I am neatly turned out. Scruffy people make me feel like a snob
Fevercrumb1649@reddit
London specifically dresses down compared to the rest of the UK. You can even see it with what people wear on nights out.
Superb-Ad-8823@reddit
Coming dressed for Christmas dinner wearing a hoodie and trackie bottoms is just slovenly! Unless you can't afford to buy more appropriate attire.
OsotoViking@reddit
You're not the one who ought to feel silly - standards have dropped.
kreygmu@reddit
Definitely since Covid a lot of people have just stayed in slob mode.
chaoticchemicals@reddit
I got married wearing jeans and made everyone else wear jeans. I am 50 I wear jeans and a t shirt or long sleeved top every day of my life. Black jeans, and a black top. I won't go to events that require me to wear clothes I do not feel comfortable in. I threw away my make up bag in 2005. The beauty standard amongst Eastern European is slightly higher than the UK. I have Polish and Romanian, and Lithuanian friends that always look immaculate. The woman who does some cleaning me is Lithuanian and she turns up in an Audi and looks like she stepped out of the e pages of Vogue when did they did an issue with a Henry Hoover as the must have accessory. Be you, if you want to dress up dress up. I have another friend who is never knowingly underdressed!
Draggedintosunliight@reddit
Stop hanging round with slobs
AdThat328@reddit
Nah that sounds like you're just in a group of people who don't do anything other than informal...we dress up for anything haha
everyoneis_gay@reddit
Except for the weddings, which vary wildly (maybe more here than in countries where it's a more traditionally religious affair?), those are all events where I'd put a nice shirt on if I was a guest or receiving guests, but would absolutely be in my jammies if it's just me and my relatives.
Nurhaci1616@reddit
I don't know if this applies here specifically, but there's definitely a trend of younger people having a very different conception of "formal wear": unironically, they were probably wearing their nice tracksuits to these events.
Hell, I'm not that old, I'm younger than 30, and at a job interview the other day it really struck me that only one other lad there, they all seemed at least 5 years younger than me, had a jacket and tie. Most were wearing open collar shirts and some had trainers on instead of proper shoes! I feel like a boomer saying that, but I also think it wasn't that long ago basically everyone would have expected you to wear a full, business smart suit to any "proper" job interview.
seklas1@reddit
I’m from eastern Europe too. People here generally do dress more casually, but men will put a shirt on for events and women will wear a dress etc too.
Every wedding I’ve been to, everyone was dressed smart, even one in Greece in 30 degree weather. If it’s Christmas - either a nice sweater or a Christmas jumper. A house party - smart casual with a change of clothes just in case (which is gonna be some comfy wear - joggers and hoodie).
sammy_bananaz@reddit
You wore a dress to Christmas dinner? That is totally insane to me- either pyjammas, comfies such as trackies or possibly jeans and a shirt. You will be perceived as attention seeking this is very strange behavior to a British person.
Slow-Kale-8629@reddit
I wear a suit to weddings. Lots of my friends are hard up and have weddings where not everyone can afford a suit, and that's fine. I don't buy special different clothes for Christmas or family dinners on bank holiday weekends. I have smart casual work clothes, but it would feel really odd to dress like I'm at work to see family!
PandaPrimary3421@reddit
I only know the following
suit- weddings funerals and court appreance
Smart dressed - nice jeans and a top - job interview- going out out, work
Golf dressed - pants and a matching polo
Everything else- whatevers comfortable
RedDora89@reddit
I think it might be the people you hang out with. Unless we’d specifically had a cozy Xmas theme (where we all bought brand new matching PJs for a photo by the tree kinda vibes) then tracksuit bottoms etc is not appropriate!
What I will say, however, is if I’m dancing - I’m not wearing heels. Looking cute at dinner, sitting at a nice bar, maybe heels. Throwing shapes? Trainers.
catlikesun@reddit
Because they aren’t as glamorous as you and standards have slipped here. Keep it up! Show us Brits how it’s done
fckituprenee@reddit
It's geographic too. In Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow, I assume in much of Essex, more people generally dress up more for casual events.
No_Confidence_3264@reddit
This very depends on the circles you run in. My family always dress nicely for holidays, my boyfriend’s family (while American) are pretty chill, more jeans and shorts type thing, might spend the day in PJs and wearing a jumper but he is from Florida and so that’s not unusual.
Wedding I would expect to formal, make up for sure jewellery depends on the person but all the weddings I have been to involve dresses and suits. However polo tops are considered smart in some circles.
Live music depends on the band most people do wear jeans and a t-shirt as you want to be comfortable. Theatre coding has changed over the last few years I will still always wear a dress just because I personally don’t find jeans comfortable to sit in but my last few times at the theatre has had a range of different people wearing a variety of different styles of clothing from formal to very casual
FakeNordicAlien@reddit
Lots never do. I live in an extremely affluent town not far from London, with a good arts and theatre scene, and I go to a variety of theatres fairly regularly, and people are wearing everything from long dresses to jeans. I’m usually one of the most dressed-up people (and get frequent compliments, so at least I don’t feel too weird!) because I like clothes, but I’m still a lot more casual than I’d dress for theatre or ballet in almost any city in Europe or Asia. Even in London, at places like the Royal Opera House, you’ll see Russians in ballgowns and fur coats, as well as people in casual wear, and everything inbetween. Very few places in the U.K. have a dress code more stringent than “no sportswear, no trainers” these days (and you don’t find so many of those either) though there are still a few.
I think the Ritz still requires jackets and ties for men for afternoon tea, as do a few other places. Some of the private gentlemen’s clubs have dress codes for functions. My dad was (is still? Idk) a Savile Club member, and I had to wear a nice dress the few times I went there.
Generally, I say wear what you’re comfy in. Maybe tone it down a bit for weddings, based on what you’ve seen, if you’re feeling like people are paying you too much attention. I’m a fellow dresser-upper - I wear heels most days, and even when I’m in casual mode it’s planned casual - but weddings are a time when you ideally want to be a bit less formal than the bride and groom. Your holiday wear sounds fine.
Crabbies92@reddit
Yeah, this - I basically never dress up because I don't have any nice clothes lol. Everything I own is second hand.
Paradiddles123@reddit
I go to dinners or social things and dress up a bit. My other half’s family will turn up for a family do in sweatpants. I loathe how casual we are all becoming. Adults need to stop dressing like children.
ReplicatedSun@reddit
Feels like everything has gotten more casual now, even going out for a drink in town, I used to wear shirt/jeans and nice boots etc now I feel over dressed if I'm wearing anything more than a T-shirt/Polo, now most of my shirts just live in my wardrobe unless it's a wedding or funeral which is a bit of a shame.
wallabyspinach@reddit
My elderly mother has a cleaner a couple of times a week. She tidies up beforehand and puts on a smart outfit.
littleviking248@reddit
Smart casual for most of those and then dressed up for a wedding. Someone did show up to my wedding in a tracksuit I didn’t really speak to them and honestly they won’t be invited to any of my events again to be honest
BlackberryNice1270@reddit
I have never been to a wedding, baptism or funeral where people didn't dress up, and I'm from a working class 'deprived' background. My guests dressed up recently for a house party I had! Who on earth are you hanging out with?
FullofSurprises11@reddit
Get a job in a school and you will dress finally smart for life.
Especially if you are a man.
frottagecore@reddit
In my experience, people in the North East (where I’m from) dress up to go out drinks or dinner or for the club, but in London it’s a lot more casual. When I moved to London for uni, it was a complete culture shock when people were going out to the club in everyday clothes rather getting the sequins and glitter out! Really boring too bc I love getting dressed up
OrganizationOk5418@reddit
Never lower your standards.
ShadowWood78@reddit
I'm British and I'm as confused as you. I went to the ballet last year for my birthday. Felt for sure that might be one place you get a little bit dressed up. Apparently not. Me in a nice dress and shoes, everyone around me in flip flops and jeans.
AccomplishedEcho3579@reddit
You do you.
Fleurlamie111@reddit
Definitely would dress up for a wedding, going out for a meal, to a party etc. Any wedding I have been to most people are dressed smartly, or at the very least a nice pair of dark jeans, shirt and shoes for men. I wouldn’t look like a slob if I went to someone’s house for a Christmas dinner for example, but I would probably still wear jeans and a Christmas jumper or a decent top/jumper.
Kittygrizzle1@reddit
Dress up for weddings and funerals for me. Family meals are always casual as are gigs. That’s it though
thatshowitusually@reddit
Most brits are slobs who can’t be arsed or are unable to dress correctly
PerkeNdencen@reddit
You can just ask, but for the sake of comparison, my own assumptions would be:
Christmas dinner - smart casual / smart but festive
Easter / birthday do - smart casual
Easter dinner with the family - at someone's house or in a restaurant? That's going to change how I dress for sure. This would be a hoodie situation if I wasn't going somewhere 'nice.'
Weddings - suit and tie.
shortfungus@reddit
I am working class scheme as hell from Glasgow, and my family have always made an effort for Christmas/any family dinner - my mum and I even joke about “getting all dolled up to sit in grammas.” Even when I was a kid, my mum would dress me in something nice for the occasion.
Most of my friends stick family photos up on their social media at Christmas, and they’re all similarly festively dressed, and they’re all from working and middle class families. Same with weddings - the girls, including myself, generally wear a nice dress, heels, makeup, hair done, the guys wear full suits/kilts, and kids have their wee party outfits on.
Hoodies and comfies are strictly for the house, I even get dressed and dolled up to go to the pub!
Are you hanging about with students by any chance, OP?
CandyPink69@reddit
You’re hanging around with dregs I’m assuming. I do find Eastern European women dress/make themselves up extremely well, that’s not a bad thing. You do you 😊
stinglikeameg@reddit
I only have my friends and family as a sample but we always dress smart casual for meals or events.
I've never seen anyone not dressed up at any wedding I've been to either.
I think it might just be the people you know?
Dressing up is very much a thing in my world, probably because most of us are tired parents so when we have something to dress fancy for we go all out!
Mekazabiht-Rusti@reddit
Once you start dressing for comfort there is no going back.
SWLondonLady@reddit
You know you can ask the dress code before you go to an event?
Sirlacker@reddit
As a rule of thumb, it's informal/smart casual unless told otherwise.
Kactuslord@reddit
It really depends on the scenario for me.
Things I'd dress up for: Weddings Funerals Baptisms/other religious events Graduations
In-between (smart casual): Christmas dinner Retirement party (depends on where it's held) Special birthday celebrations (like 21st, 30th, 40th etc)
Casual: Easter lunch Basically anything else
Clogheen88@reddit
Not sure about wearing trackies, but I’m from Australia and find that people dress up massively in Northern England.
In Sydney the fashion is minimum makeup and people often wear flats. Chic casual. The short dress, platform heels and maximum makeup/false lashes/aesthetics thing just isn’t the fashion back home. People wear expensive brands, but no logos or anything outwardly identifiable which again seems to be a fashion in Northern England. Basically, expensive clothes but understated, like you haven’t made too much of an effort and it’s all natural.
Although no one would wear a polo shirt to a wedding or trackies at a house party in Sydney.
I’ve always found my friends in London have similar fashion to Sydney. Not as dressy as up north but not dressed down to the extent that you’ve experienced.
Guess it just depends where you are and who you’re hanging around with.
Angel-4077@reddit
Depends on the 'circle' and type of people imo.
We don't dress up at Easter as a family because its just us, our kids & partners. But christmas includes my in-laws and a brother-in-law so we dress smarter. If its just a group of young friends together then dressing up not usual imo.
With wedings its the venue that usually dictates. If there is no church or hotel involved it can be very casual.
Also "designer hoodies' might be considered dressing up.
Dressing formal is a lower middle class thing in the UK , the rich & the poor don't bother.
christinesangel100@reddit
So honestly it just varies. My family growing up would always tend to dress up for birthdays/Christmas etc, but my partners family do not and just wear whatever. But then my partner would never wear tracksuit bottoms if not doing sports, whereas I think they are normal things to wear, as they were in my area growing up and they are just comfy trousers.
Neither way is 'right', but it does mean that sometimes I feel underdressed visiting her parents casually in a t shirt and tracksuit bottoms and sometimes she feels underdressed when we go for a birthday dinner and I wear my suit because I like wearing it and it's nice to dress up for special occasions. I mean it is also very much a 'wear what is comfortable ' feeling for both families, just different associations I suppose.
Smeeble09@reddit
Been to around 12 weddings over the past 8-10 years. All bar one 99% of people were dressed up, women in dresses, makeup, hair done etc and men had full 3 piece suits on, myself included.
The only one that wasn't dressed up like that was because it want in the UK, but in Cyprus, and even that sounds more formal than what you described.
I think you've just not had more unusual experiences than what I would class as normal.
Danglyweed@reddit
I'd dress up (dress, heels and make up) for a wedding. Put on a frock for a baptism and low heels and maybe a bit of bb cream. Easter, no. Christmas, no. My parents once walked into mine on Christmas, I was wearing a frock and my dad asked if I was pissed already.
KatVanWall@reddit
Working class middle-aged Brit here.
I’d always dress up for a wedding (unless the dress code specified a theme like ‘cowboys’ or ‘dress as a clown’ or something).
Christmas and Easter dinner … meh, if it’s in the home and with only family around, it’s flip a coin whether I feel like putting on something ‘nice’ or just want to be comfy. They are both occasions known for people wanting to stuff their face with food, drink lots of alcohol, and maybe veg on the settee and/or play silly games - all of which work better in maximum comfort clothes.
If we were going out to a restaurant, I’d dress up nicer, on the basis I’m probably not gonna end up having to play twister with uncle Andy and aunty Mabel haha.
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
Christmas dinner at home is 100% wear comfy clothing and dig in!! 🍽️
hhfugrr3@reddit
For Christmas I'd say wear what you feel comfortable in. My gf likes to dress up. I prefer a silly jumper and shorts - as I know my mum's house is always super hot.
For a day time party, come relaxed. For a night time event then dress up, but still smart casual.
For Easter dinner... What the feck is that?? Never had one, no idea what you're talking about.
For weddings, dress smart unless told otherwise. For men a suit. Also, if you think Brits under dress for weddings you should see the Chinese!! Zero effort made that I could see, except for the bride and her family who seemed to be doing the dressing up for everyone else. I'd taken a smart jacket to wear but was advised to leave it off, which was the correct call.
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
You’ve never had an Easter dinner?!
Brew, massive Easter egg and a nice sit down 😎
hhfugrr3@reddit
Haha I mean yeah I had lots of Easter eggs as a kid
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
I just had to google it and apparently there is such a thing as Easter dinner! Well I never…
I assumed it was just an excuse to go out
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ultimate-easter-sunday-lunch
Glass_Effect5624@reddit
https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/guide/ultimate-easter-sunday-lunch
I never even knew Easter dinner was a thing!
proudream1@reddit
As a fellow eastern european living in London, I was shocked how casual people dress here compared to EE. The women wear less make-up, less heel etc etc. Although I have to say that your examples are quite extreme
Curious-Term9483@reddit
Not if I can possibly help it.
I will put on a nice frock for a wedding. (No makeup though. I've never felt the need to wear makeup. I guess I just wasn't brought up to think it was important 🤷)
The rest of the time I do pretty much live in combats and a t-shirt. Going out for a meal I might change into something a bit smarter. And if I am visiting someone I probably would change my t-shirt if I spilled my food down myself.
Curious-Term9483@reddit
I am probably not the best basis for comparison though 😂
BarefootBagLady@reddit
My advice would be dress how you want to dress, assume smart casual for events, dressier for weddings and casual for family/friends gatherings unless otherwise informed. I usually ask if there's no dress code specified
xander012@reddit
This is a lot less formal than anything I've seen. Tbf I am from a middle class catholic family so everyone has a suit on hand in case of an event, but really the only one where I'd say you weren't overdressed is the mention of concerts, I wouldn't ever dress smart at a concert venue, comfort first
Southern-Ad4477@reddit
Depends on background. I grew up in a military family and we all tend to be quite rigid with dress codes. Both my brother and I wore Morning Dress to our weddings (swept tail coat), which even though less popular these days, looks incredible.
My limit of acceptable standard for a wedding would be a lounge suit, but then no one I know would dare show up to a wedding wearing a polo shirt. A friend of mine wore a brown suit once and got the piss taken a bit (friendly banter).
tonyferguson2021@reddit
Weddings and funerals
woman_on_the_move@reddit
Face it us bits aren't that comfortable with the dressing up smart bit. My family were in Brazil for my nephews wedding. The taxi driver laughed good and hard when I am persuading my partner that he does need smart trousers and a shirt! He said that the expectation for most brazillians would be to have a suit tailored for the occasion. I was happy in my tk max dress and sparkly flip flops but we were definitely the underdressed side of the church!
Ohbc@reddit
I'm sorry, flip flops at a wedding??
LordAnchemis@reddit
See what the invitation says - basically
DifferentWave@reddit
It’s been years since I read Marina Lewycka’s Short History of Tractors in Ukrainian (and obviously you can be E European without being Ukrainian at all), but I remember her (or maybe it was a character in the book, like I said it’s been years) saying that it was important to E European people to dress smartly as their parents remembered the extreme poverty under communism where their mothers may only have one lipstick all their lives. Now they have the chance to show off their relative means, they do so. I think it’s the opposite here, we’ve gone too far into “dressing down” after spending the 20th century all repressed in suits and ties.
Flat-Pomegranate-328@reddit
Change your group of friends this sounds dire haha I like to dress up for special occasions
No-Economics-8198@reddit
Someone's house = (smart) casual A venue : dress up.
Kenny2090@reddit
I get what you mean, but I don't think it's embarrassing to be well put together. Embrace being The Glam Friend, even if it's just normal to your standards
StressedOldChicken@reddit
I went to a funeral a few years ago - I wore a fairly cheap black dress from Debenhams (about £25), a fake fur coat from Matalan (smooth fur almost like velvet, not fluffy), and black boots. My partner and kids were all in suits. We were stared at (by the rest of my extended family!) because they were mostly in jeans, tracksuits, hoodies. One of my cousins commented on my 'expensive' outfit - I told her it cost no more than £50, and I'd had it years. So, no, it's not a British thing. It could be a class thing - but the tracksuits were expensive ones, so it's not necessarily about money. I was brought up to dress 'appropriately' for formal events. Not everyone wants to do that, for lots of different reasons.
whatd0y0umean@reddit
Echoing that I think it's just your circles
AussieHxC@reddit
Yeah it's completely wild.
I think my basic level for anything where I'd actually see people is jeans + shirt, upping to trousers + shirt + nice boots for going out.
I'm not particularly formal, I've just made the decision to stop wearing band t-shirts for everything and want to look a tad smarter.
OPAsMummy@reddit
It’s definitely the people you’re around. Most people would be at the very least smart casual at these events.
BrokenFist-73@reddit
Sorry to say, but I think your partner and his family and friends sound like boring, lazy, scruffbags. You carry on doing you, and be proud of it. I (M52) only ever wear jeans, hoodies and t shirts, but for a nice meal, wedding etc, would always make the effort and wear a nice shirt or a suit, appropriate to the occasion. My wife, son and daughter would all do the same. Pure laziness on some people's parts. There's some joy in getting dressed up, that's my wife's take on it, and I would tend to agree.
Infamous-Turn-2977@reddit
This might be a location thing. I’m from Leeds and when I was at uni I could spot northern girls a mile off because we dressed up. The London, southern and smaller town girls were way more low key
ActualGvmtName@reddit
It's a class issue.
Lower-working class origins - even if they themselves are in different financial circumstances. Note I didn't say working class.
V65Pilot@reddit
Jeans and a t-shirt. It's served me well for most of my life. I have a couple of button down shirts if I'm feeling fancy.... If I'm in a suit, its a wedding, a funeral or I'm due in court.
AnneKnightley@reddit
Christmas and easter dinner would depend on family really - we’ve always dressed up a little but it could be a smart jumper/jean combo or a dress n cardigan - I wouldn’t put on something more glam. Weddings I would absolutely wear a dress and heels though I always veer towards understated with jewellery etc.
jonewer@reddit
Court appearance
MixGroundbreaking622@reddit
Weddings, funerals and job interviews I'd dress up for. For everything else it's a hoodie and jeans.
WinkyNurdo@reddit
I don’t wear house or lounge clothes at all, despite working from home. Minimum is T-shirt and linen trousers, but often shirt and jeans, or in summer, short sleeve shirt and shorts. In winter I have overshirts and a woollen cardigan. Most of what I wear is ready to go out, or to receive guests. I’ve never really liked sportswear or tracksuits, but am fully aware I’m an outlier in that respect.
ashisanandroid@reddit
Your examples are a bit extreme - I would feel the same as you - but there is a thing going on in quite high professional circles where its a faux pas to be seen to make an effort. It's more fashionable to dress down, so long as you're wearing the right brands, limited edition shirt etc. As ever in this country, its a class thing and the devil is in the detail.
Confuses the shit out of me though.
Porg7@reddit
Wear whatever you want. Fuck ‘em.
Arnoave@reddit
Nah, your friends are just a bunch of scruffs. Never feel you should dress down just to fit in.
LaSinistre@reddit
No such thing as over dressed my friend. There is only well attired and under dressed.
runitbymeonce@reddit
I find my relatives that are more northern , dress up way more - parties , Christmas etc - everyone is decked out
Slight-Engine-2767@reddit
I would dress smart casual for the family celebrations and formal for the wedding. It sounds like you did the appropriate thing. It's depends on the specific people you're hanging out with though. I think you've shacked up with the pyjamas to the supermarket kind of people unfortunately.
Accomplished_Yam_232@reddit
For the family things I think it’s a bit rude of the hosts not to let you know it would be casual! In my friends/family we’d make at least a little effort for special meals etc.
I’m probably part of the most casual household in the wider family and I ask or they tell me if it cool to dress casual style with hoody’s and jeans.
No one would mind if you made more effort though, I’d say the hosts would appreciate the effort 😊 just keep dressing how you like!
Wise-Youth2901@reddit
I think London is more casual than some other parts of the UK (provincial areas tend to love an excuse to dress up) but what you're describing I don't think as normal. If someone turns up to my wedding this year in a polo shirt then I am kicking them out! Haha. Gigs are different to an event like a family event i.e. wedding, Christening, Easter pub gathering etc... People being more casual at a gig makes sense, depending on the kind of music. But me and my partner's family (Londoners) will definitely dress nice for Christmas dinner etc... Certainly not tracksuits and hoodies.
beanbagpsychologist@reddit
Yes, I feel like I had to scroll a long way to see this. London's whole vibe is "effortless" - you should ideally look chic but like it all comes easy to you. Expensive clothes with understated vibes. High heels and tight dresses are not in keeping with the idea of being effortless. They're also not practical when your night out will involve walking to a bus stop. Meanwhile, go to Essex or South Wales and people are in full glam for everything.
Even_Menu_3367@reddit
Those bullet point example you gave all sound like occasions where I’d make an effort, and my friends and family would too.
The live music thing - well it depends. If I’m going to a gig where I’ll be on my feet dancing, I will absolutely be dressed for comfort. If it’s a sit-down affair where the audience are quite passive, then yes I would make more of an effort.
Cinema going I used to dress up, now I dress for comfort.
TekInSight@reddit
Nothing wrong with you wearing smarter and more formal clothes for these types of events, personally I think standards of dress in the UN have reduced significantly; it's like people have no care or sense of decorum anymore.
I went to my Gardfathers funeral recently and there were around 30 people aged from early twenties to elderly, and I could count on one hand those who wore a proper suit, white shirt and black tie (inc. myself).
Two of his sons didn't even wear suits, grandchildren in chinos, jeans, casual shirts (some short sleeve) and trainer type shoes.
It does feel like people have lost the ability to dress to the occassion and put some effort in.
G01ngDutch@reddit
Yeah, I think this is fairly unique to the people you mix with. Being a Brit who’s moved to the Netherlands, I REALLY notice how Brits dress up for all kinds of occasions where Dutchies don’t. People wear jeans and trainers to work, the pub, theatre, restaurants, I’ve even seen it at weddings! When me and Dutch other half got married, his side of the family were freaking out about what to wear. My side instinctively knew to wear formal wear, formal shoes, some wore hats, my brother wore a full top hat and tails!
AddictedToRugs@reddit
Stag do.
Feline-Sloth@reddit
It is always better to be over dressed than underdressed in my humble opinion
HighandMeaty@reddit
DON'T CHANGE. It's better to be the best dressed person in the room.
Speaking as a native, I've noticed that since 2020 especially, dress codes have plummeted. I turned up to the pub the other day in jeans and a shirt and people said I looked like I was going somewhere fancy....
Keep on outdressing your friends. It's not your fault they're scruffy buggers.
Thestickleman@reddit
Has to be a very special occasion for me not to wear trackies and a hoody
BobbieMcFee@reddit
Hoodies and tracksuits? You're hosted by chavs. Proper Brits make a hint of effort.
(More seriously, they might have been fun and nice people, but you shouldn't be taking them as representative)
ParsnipSnip90@reddit
I'm British born ect, I think this is a real shame. There's a downward trend I standards I say.
Don't give up making an effort for yourself unless that's what you want. Standing out for looking nice isn't a bad thing. It's not as though you're telling everyone about your Prada handbag to brag.
I'm always trying to wear more shirts.
KayC720@reddit
3 piece suit as standard for a wedding. I’m not dressing up for Christmas though
No_Title_615@reddit
Unless I’m going to a fancy dinner I almost always wear T-shirt and jeans or sweatpants
MrD-88@reddit
As a man, suits are for weddings, christenings and funerals.
Jeans, trainers and polo or jumper for a night out.
Day to day, sometimes jeans, sometimes trackies and crew neck t shirts. Always trainers.
Christmas day or other family gatherings probably jeans and polo or jumper as well.
I've been invited to my aunties 50th in a fancy restaurant inna few weeks, probably wear some dress trousers and an long sleeve button up shirt with my brogues.
hallerz87@reddit
Every wedding I've ever been to, people have been suited and booted. Unless the invite specifically requests casual wear, then I'd assume semi-formal/cocktail dress. For the family stuff, then this is very much personal. My Dad's side are more formal so a dressed up family Christmas dinner wouldn't be unusual. My Mum is the opposite, usually pajamas for Christmas dinner.
I think your experience is different to my my Canadian wife's. We've been to weddings and parties and her impression is that Brits love an excuse to get dressed up. So I think your social circle also plays a part because she's right, in my experience, we do like to get dressed up for parties, weddings, etc.
Elephants_and_rocks@reddit
I’m half English, half Hungarian and grew up in the UK. Despite this I celebrated Christmas the Hungarian way that meant me, my mum (Hungarian) and sister all dressed up and my dad never did. We’re pretty middle class and even when we celebrated it with my English grandparents they never dressed up. As best I know nobody regarded as rude either way, but this family that knew why we did.
Weddings I have yet to go to an English one so can’t really comment.
In terms of going out, in my case mostly clubbing I always dress up (it’s fun) but there’s pretty broad range in my friends some people do like dressy casual (probably the most common) but others just show up in whatever their wearing originally.
Overall I’d say that in England it’s a bit less dressy than eastern and Central Europe.
Boldboy72@reddit
first of all, Eastern Europeans do tend to make more of an effort, especially with their children who don't live their days in whatever was on sale at Sports direct.
However, I think you are moving in a very informal setting. Generally brits dress well for events such as weddings or even family dinners.
I love summer in London, most women dress in beautiful summer dresses and it gives it a summery mood. Where I come from, it's the same leggings and t-shirts / sports shirts all year round.
Motherofvampires@reddit
If you go to some of the Northern cities like Liverpool you'll find people do dress up more.
Spock32@reddit
Sounds like a side effect of the social circle you’re in, not an experience I’ve had
Aromatic_Cap_4505@reddit
It's not just you. I feel overdressed if I go anywhere wearing anything other than jeans these days. I've got a wardrobe full of dresses that haven't seen the light of day for years because even a basic dress has people looking at you like they think you're being pretentious and showy. Ridiculous really.
TheTzarOfDeath@reddit
Easter can be as casual as you like but none of my friends or family celebrate Easter so why would you dress up for a non-day.
Christmas it depends on your plans. Going to a Christmas or hosting a Christmas for others, you dress up. If it's just you and your kids why bother?
People always dress up for weddings in my experience. Never been to a casual wedding, though I have seen some underdressed people at weddings. I'd be mortified at a wedding without a kilt and I look like a scruffy hobo daily.
Purple_Moon516@reddit
Southern European here with the same experience. I feel this the most when I go to the office (corporate job) and theatres/venues where I expected people to be more dressed up and I end up feeling out of place. Some of what you mention may be your circle but there are definitely cultural differences in 1. What is considered an occasion that needs dressing up to. 2. What dressing up means, particularly for women.
Important-Maybe-1430@reddit
A celebration at somebodies house isnt formal, a wedding id dress up for though. Id expect more than polo tshirt to a wedding for sure. Id look nice for easter or christmas but comfortable but nice but casual for sure
Sattaman6@reddit
I’m a die-hard causal dresser but even I would wear a chino/shirt combo to a Christmas meal and a suit to a wedding. I’m in my mid-40s so that might play a role.
Impossible-Fruit5097@reddit
You’re working from the premise that of course the event would be more formal so they have to specify differently. I don’t agree that Christmas is a formal event, the hosts dressed per their tradition and OP is dressed per hers. If it’s a big deal for OP to be dressed differently than other people than they need to start checking dress codes before events.
Pleasant-chamoix-653@reddit
I think you probably dress stylish. I had a Polish lady colleague who looked like a specsavers model
Otoh my Indian associates(of which I am one) tend to buy everything new and stereotypical like nice hiking style boots for winter, scarf, new coat. Like us Brits are a scruffy bunch! :D
RevolutionaryDebt200@reddit
NTA. Personally standards of dress are declining, as people appear to have little self-respect or are prepared to put in a bit of effort. The only time you will be overdressed is wearing a ball gown and tiara to anything outside of a Royal Gala
Violet351@reddit
I’ve never been to a wedding where people didn’t dress up. Christmas my family usually dress up Christmas Day but are more relaxed Boxing Day
Ohbc@reddit
Oh that's an interesting question. I am also from Eastern Europe and often find myself being "overdressed" but mostly it's just me never wearing athleisure wear unless I'm going to the gym/running. I think your situation seems to be a bit more extreme compared to what I have experienced but I do feel people tend to dress more casual. I went to a hendo last year and most of the girls were wearing trainers and a casual dress and that surprised me, I didn't even go as dressy I would have liked to still felt like I stood out. I actually miss opportunities for proper dressing up as they seem to be barely existing these days. But I think you should do you and continue what you're doing, your outfits sound very reasonable to me and it's ok to put effort, especially on special occasions
rising_then_falling@reddit
One of the things I notice about London is that people are generally a lot better dressed than in smaller towns.
I'm always overdressed and proud of it. I've had some success dragging my friends upwards in this respect.
I was a scruffy oik until I started going out with a fashion student, and I've never looked back.
llewapllyn@reddit
First: this is absolutely not a British thing in general. I would never wear a hoodie to something like Christmas dinner. If it's in someone's home, it's at least a long sleve shirt, jeans and proper leather shoes and if it's out somewhere it's a jacket and shirt. No tie though.
Second: don't do yourself down. You are not vain for liking mascara and heels. It's perfectly normal to dress up and put on a bit of make up (if you want to wear make up) for a nice event. It's also perfectly normal to enjoy dressing nicely and have an interest in fashion.
Peter_Sofa@reddit
I think the problem may be a lot of British people are overweight or obese, so they prefer comfortable fitting clothes that are not too close to the body. It is something like 64% of the adult population is in either category.
--BooBoo--@reddit
You don't sound overdressed at all, you just sound like you have standards so I wouldn't drop them to fit in with the people around you as they sound pretty slobby.
gracenatomy@reddit
I have noticed since lockdown everything and everyone is way more casual. I go on nights out now and I'm always way more dressed up than everyone. I've tried to adopt a more casual but elevated style myself recently. I definitely would go fancy for weddings and events, and still see most people doing so for those kind of things. But day to day events, meals out etc people are generally more casual these days.
Real_Run_4758@reddit
there are a lot of variables; different circles is one of them. when i was at uni, visiting friends in liverpool and newcastle, the girls there put so much more effort into getting dressed up/made up for a night out compared to london. i felt like a slob compared lol
CatGirl184@reddit
I love dressing up and in my house we would all nicely for birthdays and Christmas etc. although my aunt has said that the inscription on my headstone should read “Never knowingly undressed” which I took as a compliment!
MaidInWales@reddit
Undressed or underdressed? 😂
--BooBoo--@reddit
Don't think that is necessarily a British thing, more the people you are with - my family would always dress up for a family birthday celebration, Christmas or Easter get together, and we would never go to a wedding not wearing a smart dress for women and a suit for men.
I do think the UK is getting more casual as when I was growing up people wouldn't wear sportswear or lounge wear to go out in and a Saturday night out would always be skirts and heels not jeans and trainers, but your circle of friends sounds more casual than normal.
ASpookyBitch@reddit
Generally it goes by location rather than event.
naddpodenjoyer@reddit
I think it varies from one family to the next. My family have never dressed up for anything besides weddings.
Christmas was spent in our pjs/comfortable clothes. Easter usually involved rummaging around in the garden for hidden eggs, so we were dressed in old clothes that we didn't mind getting dirty.
But then I know some families who do dress up for those things. Maybe it's a bit of a class divide? My family is very much lower working class, so we never had the money for fancy clothes.
TheBlackHymn@reddit
Weddings and funerals only for me. Outside of those occasions I do not dress up ever. I don’t even own “best” clothes, I just own clothes. What I wear around the house is the same as what I wear to work or to the pub.
Striking-Amoeba-5563@reddit
I‘m from Liverpool but lived in London a few years and it was definitely more casual down there. So I do wonder if this is possibly more of a London thing?
No_Strawberry_1576@reddit
Are they gypsies?
Spiritual_Egg3900@reddit (OP)
Not at all, I'm talking London/South of England Brits with university degrees and white collar jobs. People who definitely outearn me as well :)
Honey-Badger@reddit
Unusual. I have 3 weddings this year and you'd look very out of place wearing a polo shirt at any of them. That being said I do have friends who are big hippies who would insist that guests dress down for their own weddings.
I'm very confused about people wearing trackies for dinner or lunch with guests, unless they're pretty young or a bit chavvy
annedroiid@reddit
Sounds like you know people who are particularly informal. That sounds very unusual.
ConflictGuru@reddit
You should have a formal hoodie for formal events. One that fits well, nicely pressed, looks good with a pair of jeans.
You might also have an informal hoodie for home use. 3 sizes too big, fluffy, cartoon character on the front.
Scottish_squirrel@reddit
I think you're just surrounded by weird people. I've been to many a wedding. Christening. Formal event and people love the opportunity to go all out.
Ginge04@reddit
Keep doing what you’re doing. If in doubt, it is always better to be overdressed than underdressed. Sounds like you’re just mixing with some pretty scruffy people in all honesty.
Early-Intern5951@reddit
i'm meeting my dad later and just ironed the shirt for the occasion. Your circle is just a bit more casual than others.
chroniccomplexcase@reddit
I can’t comment on the people you are friends/ related to but in my circle (friends and family) we would have work similar to you and are all British born and bred. Some groups of people do like ‘tracksuit chic” as I would call it and I did date someone like that for a short while and it annoyed me no end. So whilst some people do dress like you’ve seen, it is definitely not the norm for most people.
Impossible_Pop620@reddit
Yeah, your b/f family are a bit on the casual side, but that's a good thing, yes?
I've never really heard anyone being critiqued for being overdressed and certainly not a woman. There is a certain subset of women who will sieze upon any excuse to buy shoes/dresses/bags, etc. Everyone gets it, she enjoys dressing up nicely, either for Buck House garden party or Wetherspoons breakfast.
The only slight ribbing people get is either 'trying too hard' - the 2x MILs at a wedding or 'mutton dressed as lamb' - deliberately dressing in clothes designed for young people when no longer young.
Joinourclub@reddit
None of my adult family or friends would wear hoodies to a social event. Hoodies are for sport or lounging about.
TwirlipoftheMists@reddit
If in doubt? Overdress.
Responsibility_Trick@reddit
Family get togethers at home - Christmas, Easter etc - will vary a lot by family. Some will dress up more, some less - I'd say it'd be unusual for Christmas/Easter to be suit and tie affairs, though. It might vary within the family, too - often women making more of an effort than men, tbh. If I were invited to someone's else's family get together, I'd wanna ask what people would tend to wear to avoid being over/under dressed.
ambiguityperpetuity@reddit
No, you’re absolutely right. The people you’ve encountered seem to be nothing more than slobs.
cuppateaangel@reddit
I've lived in six cities including London, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Liverpool. It varies from city to city. London and Edinburgh seems to be all about understatement and veers towards stylish casual. However, Glaswegians and Scousers LOVE to dress up and will seriously bling it up. If you've spent time in different cities these differences are surprising and really noticeable.
thewatchbreaker@reddit
Seconding what everyone else has said about it being just your circles. I wouldn’t be afraid to be overdressed a little though - you mention it makes you uncomfortable to be the most overdressed person in a room, which I understand, but I think leaning into it and making it your “thing” may help you. I love dressing up and dressing nice so I’m always a little overdressed but I feel so much happier than if I toned myself down a little. Today I’m wearing a crazy voluminous Carrie Bradshaw satin skirt to a concert lol. I understand if you don’t want to do that though, it’s not for everyone, just mentioning it :)
Sensitive_Ad_9195@reddit
These sound very informal for normal Christmas / celebration meals and weddings.
With that said, why don’t you ask first?
If I was going to someone’s house, especially on Christmas, I would ask what the vibe is and what I should wear - I know some people like to do Christmas in cosy clothes.
Weddings - I would generally assume weddings are semi-formal unless told otherwise, and wear a dress and heels. However, I’d think twice depending on venue and the couple. Eg a small wedding in a pub I’d probably err on the more casual side, than I would for a wedding at a country manor.
Round_Engineer8047@reddit
I've always wanted to become like one of those old men I remember from my childhood. The ones who wouldn't dream of nipping out to the local shop for a pint of milk and 20 Woodbines without wearing a suit, tie and homburg. Even if they had grown up poor, were still on their uppers and their contents of their wardrobe a little tired and threadbare.
As I approach the second stage of middle age, I'm trying to ease myself into that embrace of elegance. Currently however, men in the equivalent age bracket of their forebears where I live wear tracky bottoms and baseball caps. It might not serve me well to stand out like a sore thumb.
Redgrapefruitrage@reddit
To be honest, this sounds about right (apart from the wedding thing?!).
I only wear formal wear if I have interviews, a wedding, or a funeral. I love weddings because it's one of the few occasions I can go all out with make-up and jewellery and fancy clothing.
My work is smart casual (unless we have a formal meeting or event with big bosses).
Otherwise, dinner with my parents or family or friends, I'm in casual wear, maybe smart casual if we're going to a restaurant.
wickedwix@reddit
I've noticed since lockdowns, people don't seem to dress up as much, and there's a much more casual approach to things like meals (this could be purely just my family and the people I know)
Dabbles-In-Irony@reddit
I tend to find myself overdressed a lot as well. Not to family events or weddings but when going out. I like to go to nice cocktail bars and I regularly see people in jeans, t-shirts, trainers. I love to get dressed up and put on a a dress and a pair of heels but I do feel more and more out of place. I recently went to the theatre and put on a fancy (not formal) outfit with a bit of sparkle and felt the stares.
secretvictorian@reddit
I've always slightly overdressed in comparison to our large family, for instance at a recent party i was the only one of my generation (millennial) who wore a pretty dress, the other women were in tees and jeans. But it honestly doesn't get to me, in my day to day I live in child friendly clothes so I enjoy dressing up a little for occasions.
Clevergirluk@reddit
It might just be the circles you run in. In my family, we've always dressed up for Christmas dinner and we tend to be smart casual for other events and holidays. Weddings are typically day dress so smart knee to mid length dress, nice shoes, make up for women and suits for men. Things are getting more informal generally though. When I was a kid, everyone dressed for the theatre but it's more common to see jeans and trainers now. I still like to dress nice for dinners out, theatre and events but I love a dress and some make up. There is a split for Christmas though between families who dress up and families who do casual or even pyjamas to fit all the turkey!
Katatonic92@reddit
This sounds so completely outside of my lived experience & what I have witnessed with others it doesn't sound realistic at all. That's how strange your experience of this is.
Tsarinya@reddit
It sounds like the people around you are underdressed. Wearing hoodies most the time to dinners etc and polo shirts to weddings is a a faux pas.
younevershouldnt@reddit
When you ask me out somewhere nice, for a change
No-Ferret-560@reddit
Polo shirt at a wedding? That's insane. I've never known of a wedding, christening or anything like that be anything but suits and dresses. If I'm invited for a dinner or event round someone's house I'll wear my nicest casual clothes.
robster9090@reddit
I like to wear nice clothes when I play golf
Reasonable-Simple523@reddit
I'm overdressed everywhere I go. I had a bit of laugh last week because we are hiking at symonds yat and people are dressed as if they are going up ben nevis during winter and then there's me in white polo, cream chinos and suede shoes.
Imtryingforheckssake@reddit
I've noticed over the last decade exactly what you're talking about though I wouldn't say I've been to any very informal weddings. All the ones I've been to people dress up nicely.
My family enjoy lots of meals out but they mostly dress really casually. I always dress up for my birthday meal out but my best mates who come along all always quite casual clothes. It doesn't really bother me. I don't think I'm out of place because I like to wear whatever makes me happy every day and some of that is more flamboyant and some of it's very casual. I think it's a good thing to have your own style so don't worry about feeling overdressed you'll be known for enjoying being smart and well presented.
ulez8@reddit
I have noticed a big increase in "default to casual" since the pandemic lockdowns.
As a kid (80s) I used to get excited to get into my Sunday Best for Xmas or a big Easter gathering. I can't seem to get my kids into a formal shirt for anything. They moan "It's like school uniform!" And ... They have a point.
I wear jeans and a hoodie to my office job, now.
My kids look smarter than I do on a morning!
I would have dressed up if invited to a wedding, party, baptism, or religious -adjacent meal. Basically going to anyone's house means "not joggers and hoodies" and if it's for something more than dinner and boardgames, then not jeans either.
Recsq@reddit
The rule for clubs and stuff was smart shoes 10 years ago.. and was expected maybe shirt too? Idk..
Now it seems to be just trianers and tshirt for men, anything more, considered wierd.. at least in towns
Glass-Locksmith-8100@reddit
I and my 30 something kids dress up for weddings funerals very formally , very smart casual for Christmas or birthday meals def make an effort mind you I get dressed up to do medical appts , when I was a child we used to get dressed up to go shopping in the town ! There are people who stick to casual but not in my social circle , certainly meals for special occasions i would expect at least a frock or smart trousers .
Healthy-Tap7717@reddit
Personal choice really. Small family get togethers at my parents on a Sunday people are usually still in the PJs at the dinner table! If we ain't going out why not be comfortable?
Then again no ones judging you (mostly) for what you are wearing. Unless you turn up to you in-laws with tit's and arse put i suggest you are perfectly fine 🙂
AdPale1469@reddit
Never.
Dressing up is classist.
Marik_Caine@reddit
Dressing up ain't but fuck loads of the comments are. Nothing wrong with being comfortable, wear what you like and don't judge others
Ed495@reddit
I’d say your response is the classist one, implying the working class only have access to hoodies and joggers. My great grandad was a factory worker and would always wear a suit on holiday.
hiperdino-@reddit
It's wrong to dress up?
DNBassist89@reddit
Most people have covered it already, but it seems like a social circle thing.
I'm overweight so struggle to find a lot of nice clothes I feel comfortable in, but a wedding is always either a suit, shirt and tie or a kilt (if I'm in the wedding party)
Social gatherings for food and drink is jeans, shoes and a shirt or polo shirt.
Christmas dinner is usually the above, maybe a nicer polo/shirt combo.
Don't really do Easter celebrations etc, but if I was invited to something like that, I'd dress smart casual, at the very least.
shortercrust@reddit
Different families do different things but the last time I properly dressed up for an ‘occasion’ was when my gran died 15 years ago. I’m pretty much always informal with family now because we know each other and we don’t care how we look.
ParisLondon56@reddit
I do the same as you and I'm born and bred. Most of my family do the same but my other half's family don't. I think it really depends on the person.
TululaDaydream@reddit
I find the exact same thing, and I'm born and raised in Scotland, so it's definitely not just you or the circles you socialise in.
I'm also not wealthy, and a lot of my clothing is second hand. What I have noticed about people who dress casual for events where I'm more dressed up, is they may be wearing jeans and tshirts and hoodies and trackies, but it's all designer labels. So they're dressed up nice, but comfortable.
I've started to just own it. Am I fuck paying £200 for a designer hoodie 😂 I'd rather turn heads because I look stunning, even if I am overdressed.
Minimum_Rice555@reddit
Horse races
Recsq@reddit
Caravan people, the last bastion of decency and standards
AnselaJonla@reddit
Romanians =/= Romani
Bgtobgfu@reddit
I think it’s the people you’re hanging out with tbh.
What you are wearing is normal and expected. Them being in hoodies for a dinner with guests is quite odd to me.
PudWud-92_@reddit
I would never dress up for a family meal at a house, but if I were going out to a restaurant for an occasion, or to a wedding then yes I’d dress up more.
minadequate@reddit
Would you wear trackies? Like I get jeans and a t shirt… but not joggers
PudWud-92_@reddit
No joggers but shorts, jeans, cargos etc for sure
Crafty_Birdie@reddit
I think it varies somewhat, but overall we've definitely become less inclined to dress up generally.
When I was in my teens and twenties it was normal to dress up for any celebratory occasion, and also for nights out - these says (30 years later) hardly anyone seems to. I miss it!
Illustrious-Divide95@reddit
If i went to a celebration family dinner (Christmas, Easter etc.) in joggers and a hoodie it would not go down well, equally if I'm hosting and cooking a 2/3 course sit down meal for a celebration, i expect everyone to make at least some effort. Smart jeans and a shirt for men minimum! Trainers and hoodies are for chilling out and a pint at the pub with a mate.
It sounds like your extended family are super casual, not massively typical IMO
Otherwise_Hunter8425@reddit
Sounds like the circle you socialise in are just in the overly casual category when it comes to dress code but I'm finding that since COVID people have got a lot more casual about "dressing to go out".
None of the things you have described as wearing sound outrageously OTT, my extended family do big family celebrations for Christmas and Easter (and as an Irish Catholic family there's at least 30 for dinner etc when you account for my mum, her siblings, my cousins, my siblings and our kids) and while nobody is wearing evening dress nobody is wearing hoodies and joggers either. I wore a nice cotton midi dress & cardigan and if anyone wore jeans it was in the "jeans and a nice top" combo.
For a wedding then I'd go by the dress code but unless that was "super casual" I would still wear a dress, do my hair & makeup and make a bit of an effort
minadequate@reddit
I mean I’m middle class but joggers wouldn’t be acceptable clothing choices for anything but wearing round the house…
Sounds like it’s the people you’re friends with.
Middle class is very subjective would you say lower middle or upper middle… and what part of the country are they from? What age bracket?
Eastern European women tend to skew more formal than the average British woman but the people you describe seem very dressed down.
Maybe you can ask for a dress code in future?
negligiblespecies@reddit
I think your friends are correct, don't change your style!
vinogron@reddit
When deciding how to dress for any occassion, just remember that the UK is country where mediocrity is rewarded and aspired to and choose accordingly.
Cyber-Axe@reddit
Of all the stuff you mentioned weddings and baptisms are really the only dress up events, something like a birthday would only be if its a meal or something at a restraunt not if it was over at someone house
ScaryButt@reddit
Go to the opera! There are opera festivals each summer and most have youth discount scheme where youth is less than 30 or 40 (because most people who go the opera are elderly and they're dying off) so you can get cheap tickets.
Glyndebourne is my favourite and is definitely the most formal of all the ones I've been too, proper white tie.
AccomplishedTry9944@reddit
When we’re chasing foxes on horseback.
autumnbutterfly24@reddit
Hmm. I dress up for weddings and funerals. I'd probably wear something nice but quite casual to a dinner. There is a tendency to dress down. I don't dress up for the theatre but some people do. I probably wouldn't dress up for any concert. Hope that helps! It's absolutely fine to check with whoever invited you if there is any sort of dress code or what is expected. Ps my mum dresses up for Christmas dinner, even though I never do. Christmas jumpers are the usual choice for a Christmas dinner, but it's just best to check.
BillyJoeDubuluw@reddit
We’re very hit and miss with this and we either go all in or show up like Kevin and Perry.
A friend of mine that is older than me and has always had a traditionally suit and tie job made an interesting point in that his younger colleagues just don’t seem to have remembered the suit or the tie and turn up as they wish…
On a sidenote Easter begins and ends with chocolate eggs for most people in Britain unless they’re properly Christian, so there is no occasion to that really but, overall, we have a tendency to occasionally glow up and blend into the background the rest of the time…
oudcedar@reddit
I think it’s the people you know. I’m aware that my circle of family and friends are probably at the other end of the dressing up spectrum - the morning suit and the DJ both get a few outings a year, particularly the DJ and I wear suit and cufflinks etc every day to work. I don’t stand out amongst the people I know. Two of my many brothers have lived their lives much more casually and married into more casual families and that’s obviously fine so I wear stuff closer to what they prefer when I see them and they put their stuff on if there’s any more formal family or friends occasion but that’s up to them as I have no problem when somebody (this happened last year) turned up to a wedding where 90 percent of the men in the congregation were wearing morning suits but they turned up in an opened neck collarless shirt and dark shorts. A 45 year old rebel is mildly amusing but nobody (quite rightly) acted as if they weren’t in the same uniform as everybody else.
Geek_reformed@reddit
This all sounds a little more casual than I am used to.
At a wedding, unless otherwise specified, I am wearing a suit and tie.
We go to Christmas dinner at my parents and while I'm not getting dressed up, I'm not turning up in sweatpants. I'm normally wearing a nice jumper or semi-causal shirt and jeans/cords/chinos.
If we are going out for a meal to even a nice pub, say for Sunday lunch, I'll make some effort and that seems to be the case for other patrons.
However, I have been to opera and classical musical concerts and seen people dressed pretty casually. For me, such an evening is normally part of a wider thing with dinner or drinks before hand so again I'd dress at least smart casual.
In general, I'm not a sweatpants/tracksuit person. The only time I wear them is for going to the gym on a cold day. You might see me taking the bins out in my pjs and a pair of crocs, but I'm not passing the end of the drive!
Mental-Risk6949@reddit
SJP vibes.
Background-End2272@reddit
I'm going to agree, we dress up a bit for events. We don't celebrate Easter though. But my mum wears a nice top/trousers or a dress for Christmas. Then a nicer dress for weddings/christenings etc. does her hair. Dad wears ironed trousers and a nice shirt.
Sounds like the folk you're hanging around with. My husbands family don't do the above, I'm usually the most overdressed when we go there Xmas morning but then we go to my mums and I'm not. It's all good!
martzgregpaul@reddit
All the people you know are scrubbers clearly
Eddbrit89@reddit
Id wear smart casual to go to the supermarket..but everyone's different I guess. I don't know anyone that would wear a hoody to any event, apart from maybe a festival. Each to their own I guess.
cloche_du_fromage@reddit
I like to look smart but generally prefer to be one step less formal.
Eg. For black tie do I'd wear a nice suit and a jazzy shirt rather than a penguin suit.
Even for at home family meals (with guests) I would wear chinos and a shirt rather than jeans and TV shirt.
I was once made to go to a hungry horse pub for sunday lunch and was astonished to see people turning up in vests.
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