Executive: We really need to start uplifting minorities and showing greater diversity in our movies and shows.
Writer: Awesome! I've been studying stories and folklore from African tribes we can take inspiration from to tell new and unique plots that create thought-provoking discussions and offer a point of view audiences may really connect with.
Executive: Interesting, sounds expensive, and risky, though. I was thinking of just remaking provenly successful previous IP and just swapping out beloved characters with Black actors.
Writer: Wouldn't that just alienate existing fans of the property? Like, rebooting 'Shaft' and making him Korean?
Executive: How dare yoy Carl. You racist jerk! You're fired! I'm replacing you with a poorly coded AI.
Writer: Awesome! I've been studying stories and folklore from African tribes we can take inspiration from to tell new and unique plots that create thought-provoking discussions and offer a point of view audiences may really connect with.
Fans: FUCKING WOKIE BULLSHIT ON TV WEN WILL THEY MAKE SHOSW ABOUT WHITE MAN AGAN
I should have clarified, I don't just mean shows about African folklore or whatever. I'm talking about how MAGA still bitches and whines about the shows out there that are about the black experience. They literally won't stop whining about stuff like this.
I believe he meant that the corporations use old IPs to secure a larger customer base. It wasn’t a remake sure but it was already an IP that was well established and already had an active following. They can secure funds from the old secured customer base and the new one. Increasing net profits whilst reducing the risk.
The point of watchmen wasn't action. I didn't care about the sfx and I can see why they went with that design instead of the cool glowing one in the movie. They had the budget for sure, it was an intentional choice. The scene would've been ruined if he was doing the classic glowing skin and eyes.
It's a show about past sins, Tulsa, reparations, nostalgia, and a god walking into a bar, not about owl man doing a 540 kick and exploding some guys head.
Very controversial topic about black people and reparations, not an action packed thriller with shit blowing up (although I thought there was a fair bit of action too), and hard to understand if you don't pay close attention.
I also thought it was fantastic. It felt like an actual continuation of Watchmen in a completely different medium that could stand on equal footing with the comic even though Moore wasn’t involved, which is an incredible achievement. Also the soundtrack was insane.
It makes sense, however, that the “Rorschach is just like me frfr” crowd wouldn’t like it, which the show itself anticipates.
Dialogue utterly forgetable. It was average. I can' remember a single piece of dialogue that stuck with me. Also, by the end every single pertinent character was somehow in the same location and the whole plot was revealed, which imo is lazy. It was all this build up for it to just fall flat on its face by the end. Also, the fully unnecesary retcons. Turns out hooded justice was actually black and was the secret gay lover of some other dude who's importance to the plot I forget becuase it was completely forgetable. The whole plot revolving around the tulsa massacre. The comics revolved around the seemingly imminent end of the world, not a national tragedy. I'm not american, so this doesn't resonate at all with me, the comics did.
It was horrible. I hate what they did to the franchise and lindelof is a complete hack. Fuck DC comics.
Also, by the end every single pertinent character was somehow in the same location
The Chinese girl made the machine with the republican who's goal was to kidnap Manhattan who Angela was trying to save and the redneck was investigating himself. It was fine.
Turns out hooded justice was actually black and was the secret gay lover of some other dude who's importance to the p
Hooded justice was originally a gay nazi boy rapist, I don't see how making him a black cop is bad, it wasn't like he was important to begin with. Like he's a footnote originally.
tulsa massacre. The comics revolved around the seemingly imminent end of the world, not a national tragedy. I'm not a
The point wasn't Tulsa, the point was how buried inherited pain comes back to haunt you. However I do get what you're saying. This is especially relevant in america today, because Oklahoma still tries to erase stuff like tulsa from its history books, but I get what you're saying.
The overarching theme is how inherited trauma if left untreated comes back to haunt you, and this being addressed on a personal level between will and Angela, paralleled with it being on a national level with tulsa was amazing.
And still relevant. To this day okalahoma removes tulsa from its history books. And you can see how overcating to liberal ideals in a wrong way just emboldens the worst kind of fascist organizations who use it as an excuse to villanize groups in order to galvanize otherwise normal people into 'rorsachs'
The cops in the show are wearing masks for the same reason the ICE is, because they're worried about retribution. This applies to all cops, it's like how detectives don't like being photographed. The show doesn't take a super firm stance either way, it shows how public servants wearing masks empowers them to do bad things (the violence against the redneck trailer trash) and it shows how it was necessary to protect themselves at the same time.
The reason isn't just protocol, ICE shows up without ID or warrants, and they're not swat. The mask is for their protection.
Watchmen, bojack, penguin, Atlanta, with guilty pleasures being peacemaker,always sunny, (It was just funny) and legion (it might have been nonsense or genius, idk)
Pretty sure that even in this version he was originally white, became Dr. Manhattan, the comicbook happened and then sometime before this "sequel" he took the appearance of a black man.
I watched this can confirm he was originally a white guy, then a blue guy after the accident, then turned into a black guy when he was trying to hide from everyone, then he went to a blue guy at the end with the black guys features.
Ridiculous plot with him tho >! Guess I’ll just die now even though I’m the most powerful being in existence !<
That’s show made me so mad, Dr Manhattan, a god who gave up on his humanity going back to become human, Adrian was fun but made no sense (the frozen squids was dope tho), his daughter made no sense beginning to end, dr manhattan wife i forgor and she having his powers in the end is a ?????, they did owl and specter so dirty but so so dirty…that blue dildo come on.. really the only good things were the frozen squids and I remember thinking the gay backstory of that old hero and the first hero covering his face cause he black was kind of cool, like, 40 minutes in total of the whole show
This thing could have been one of the best series ever made, instead it was a completely forgetable, retconning, badly written and boring piece of dogshit. Damon Lindelof, I hope you die while taking a shit.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
LankyEvening7548@reddit
Absolutemehguy@reddit
macthefire@reddit
Executive: We really need to start uplifting minorities and showing greater diversity in our movies and shows.
Writer: Awesome! I've been studying stories and folklore from African tribes we can take inspiration from to tell new and unique plots that create thought-provoking discussions and offer a point of view audiences may really connect with.
Executive: Interesting, sounds expensive, and risky, though. I was thinking of just remaking provenly successful previous IP and just swapping out beloved characters with Black actors.
Writer: Wouldn't that just alienate existing fans of the property? Like, rebooting 'Shaft' and making him Korean?
Executive: How dare yoy Carl. You racist jerk! You're fired! I'm replacing you with a poorly coded AI.
TimeIncarnate@reddit
Feel like you’re missing that he made himself look like that because a girl he wanted to fuck told him to.
But you can go with the “they made Watchmen political grr” angle too, that works
Zestyclose_Zone_9253@reddit
>They made Watchmen political
Do you know the original story?
onarainyafternoon@reddit
Writer: Awesome! I've been studying stories and folklore from African tribes we can take inspiration from to tell new and unique plots that create thought-provoking discussions and offer a point of view audiences may really connect with.
Fans: FUCKING WOKIE BULLSHIT ON TV WEN WILL THEY MAKE SHOSW ABOUT WHITE MAN AGAN
Pass_us_the_salt@reddit
What show based on African stories and folklore has been panned in recent times? Genuinely asking, because I live under a rock when it comes to media.
onarainyafternoon@reddit
I should have clarified, I don't just mean shows about African folklore or whatever. I'm talking about how MAGA still bitches and whines about the shows out there that are about the black experience. They literally won't stop whining about stuff like this.
stillmahboi@reddit
Show wasn't a remake at all tho. Didn't cover the same topics either
macthefire@reddit
stillmahboi@reddit
I don't understand?
It wasn't a remake at all?
No one was swapped out with black people except Manhattan who's barely even in it?
Nothing about the watchmen TV show is a remake, it's a continuation
zxcasd17@reddit
I believe he meant that the corporations use old IPs to secure a larger customer base. It wasn’t a remake sure but it was already an IP that was well established and already had an active following. They can secure funds from the old secured customer base and the new one. Increasing net profits whilst reducing the risk.
TraumaPerformer@reddit
You’re a remake.
stillmahboi@reddit
Real 😢
Wk1360@reddit
Minor spelling mistake
blueguy211@reddit
that tv show shouldnt exist
funkmydunkyouslunk@reddit
The fact anyone could look at the character image here and say that show was good is fucking insane
Arhatz@reddit
Wait that is a screenshot from a show. I thought it was a badly edited photo for a dr. Manhattan joke.
FuciMiNaKule@reddit
This is exactly how he looks in the show.
Diezelbub@reddit
It seems like his skull has been inflated for comedic effect but I honestly can't tell even having seen it originally
KlimCan@reddit
stillmahboi@reddit
The point of watchmen wasn't action. I didn't care about the sfx and I can see why they went with that design instead of the cool glowing one in the movie. They had the budget for sure, it was an intentional choice. The scene would've been ruined if he was doing the classic glowing skin and eyes.
It's a show about past sins, Tulsa, reparations, nostalgia, and a god walking into a bar, not about owl man doing a 540 kick and exploding some guys head.
Skreamie@reddit
I fucking loved the series, really don't know what people disliked about it
stillmahboi@reddit
Very controversial topic about black people and reparations, not an action packed thriller with shit blowing up (although I thought there was a fair bit of action too), and hard to understand if you don't pay close attention.
I sound very pretentious rn ngl.
lagrandesgracia@reddit
No, the writing and diaologue make the show objectively bad.
Zeth_Aran@reddit
Anyone who ever thought they’d be able to top Allen Moore’s writing is a fucking narcissist.
stillmahboi@reddit
I'll be honest, I liked it more than Moores stuff.
Although maybe it's just because I heard the watchmen story too many times idk.
vegetable_completed@reddit
I also thought it was fantastic. It felt like an actual continuation of Watchmen in a completely different medium that could stand on equal footing with the comic even though Moore wasn’t involved, which is an incredible achievement. Also the soundtrack was insane.
It makes sense, however, that the “Rorschach is just like me frfr” crowd wouldn’t like it, which the show itself anticipates.
stillmahboi@reddit
Oh my god the soundtrack. i just remembered how good the songs were.
stillmahboi@reddit
Well yeah, you can have that opinion, but the guy i replies to said that the sfx were all you needed to know to know it was bad.
Anyways what parts of the dialogue and writing was disappointing?
Skreamie@reddit
The SFX weren't bad though, anyone who thinks that needs to watch any scene featuring Looking Glass
lagrandesgracia@reddit
Dialogue utterly forgetable. It was average. I can' remember a single piece of dialogue that stuck with me. Also, by the end every single pertinent character was somehow in the same location and the whole plot was revealed, which imo is lazy. It was all this build up for it to just fall flat on its face by the end. Also, the fully unnecesary retcons. Turns out hooded justice was actually black and was the secret gay lover of some other dude who's importance to the plot I forget becuase it was completely forgetable. The whole plot revolving around the tulsa massacre. The comics revolved around the seemingly imminent end of the world, not a national tragedy. I'm not american, so this doesn't resonate at all with me, the comics did.
It was horrible. I hate what they did to the franchise and lindelof is a complete hack. Fuck DC comics.
stillmahboi@reddit
The Chinese girl made the machine with the republican who's goal was to kidnap Manhattan who Angela was trying to save and the redneck was investigating himself. It was fine.
Hooded justice was originally a gay nazi boy rapist, I don't see how making him a black cop is bad, it wasn't like he was important to begin with. Like he's a footnote originally.
The point wasn't Tulsa, the point was how buried inherited pain comes back to haunt you. However I do get what you're saying. This is especially relevant in america today, because Oklahoma still tries to erase stuff like tulsa from its history books, but I get what you're saying.
I_am_Reptoid_King@reddit
Hearasongofuranus@reddit
I thought it was actually pretty good. Very good timing with the Covid and the MAGA and all that.
stillmahboi@reddit
The overarching theme is how inherited trauma if left untreated comes back to haunt you, and this being addressed on a personal level between will and Angela, paralleled with it being on a national level with tulsa was amazing.
And still relevant. To this day okalahoma removes tulsa from its history books. And you can see how overcating to liberal ideals in a wrong way just emboldens the worst kind of fascist organizations who use it as an excuse to villanize groups in order to galvanize otherwise normal people into 'rorsachs'
Mesarthim1349@reddit
ICE wear masks because Feds are usually required to. SWAT Teams as well.
stillmahboi@reddit
The reason is the same though?
The cops in the show are wearing masks for the same reason the ICE is, because they're worried about retribution. This applies to all cops, it's like how detectives don't like being photographed. The show doesn't take a super firm stance either way, it shows how public servants wearing masks empowers them to do bad things (the violence against the redneck trailer trash) and it shows how it was necessary to protect themselves at the same time.
The reason isn't just protocol, ICE shows up without ID or warrants, and they're not swat. The mask is for their protection.
sleepingjiva@reddit
It's great
LazloTheGame@reddit
Hell yeah it is. Some of the best TV of the past decade.
stillmahboi@reddit
Watchmen, bojack, penguin, Atlanta, with guilty pleasures being peacemaker,always sunny, (It was just funny) and legion (it might have been nonsense or genius, idk)
SuspiciousPine@reddit
I agree. It was such a stupid watch that was hyped so hard. They hyped it up on like police brutality, cop-killer cults, superhero shit or whatever
And the actual show was like generic CW-grade superhero shit that had essentially nothing to say about any of the heavy themes they introduced
stillmahboi@reddit
It was incredible, it just wasn't a superhero show.
Blaggy578@reddit
what’s the context of this?
sleepingjiva@reddit
Dr Manhattan is black in the Watchmen series
NCD_Lardum_AS@reddit
Dr Manhattan being recognizable as any race at all is a mistake.
Also having hair???
sleepingjiva@reddit
Well, he was black before he became Dr Manhattan. Now he's blue.
NCD_Lardum_AS@reddit
And yet he's still very clearly a black man. Way too human looking.
Comic Dr Manhattan has always looked... well like a Leonard DaVinci sketch of a human.
High_Gothic@reddit
Davinky?!
sleepingjiva@reddit
Yeah, the movie one looked better. Though I'd say he's very clearly a white man.
NCD_Lardum_AS@reddit
He looks significantly closer to the average "peak" human male face in that movie than he does here.
DJIsSuperCool@reddit
Peak human male face is based on white standards.
KindlyHaddock@reddit
Leonard Davinci
FlatulentSon@reddit
Also the fact that he does not have white eyes doesn't help.
FlatulentSon@reddit
Pretty sure that even in this version he was originally white, became Dr. Manhattan, the comicbook happened and then sometime before this "sequel" he took the appearance of a black man.
hydroxy@reddit
I watched this can confirm he was originally a white guy, then a blue guy after the accident, then turned into a black guy when he was trying to hide from everyone, then he went to a blue guy at the end with the black guys features.
Ridiculous plot with him tho >! Guess I’ll just die now even though I’m the most powerful being in existence !<
sleepingjiva@reddit
Actually I think you're right
FallenSegull@reddit
Dabba-Dee dabba-die
stillmahboi@reddit
The entire point was doctor Manhattan becoming human
kubin22@reddit
Why does he just look like a guy painted blue? Like hiw the fuck do they make it worse then what we got before?
C_umputer@reddit
"If I’m to have a symbol, it shall be one I respect”
L_beano_bandito@reddit
stillmahboi@reddit
Only comment in this thread that should exist tbh
IndividualMix5356@reddit
Live action Megamind
CrosshairInferno@reddit
“Who the hell Steve Jobs?”
“Ligma balls.”
EBT card explodes
GriffithDidNothinBad@reddit
There isn’t enough gold in the world for this.
insecure_sausage@reddit
That’s show made me so mad, Dr Manhattan, a god who gave up on his humanity going back to become human, Adrian was fun but made no sense (the frozen squids was dope tho), his daughter made no sense beginning to end, dr manhattan wife i forgor and she having his powers in the end is a ?????, they did owl and specter so dirty but so so dirty…that blue dildo come on.. really the only good things were the frozen squids and I remember thinking the gay backstory of that old hero and the first hero covering his face cause he black was kind of cool, like, 40 minutes in total of the whole show
uber_damage@reddit
Quality racism right there
jarcark@reddit
He looks like Dr. Yakub from nation of Islam lore. 🤣🤣 Maybe that's what they're going for these days. Crossover episode? 😂😂
Traditional_State616@reddit
Where be the pixels?
Enes_da_Rog1@reddit
Is it bad that i laughed at this?
Lonely_Eggplant_4990@reddit
More like Dr. Detroit amirite?
Joe_Wer@reddit
Dr Bronx, Dr Baltimore, Dr Cleveland, Dr Atlanta, Dr Memphis
Okamana@reddit
My fucking sides
WoolooOfWallStreet@reddit
Is that actor’s head actually that big or is there some sort of prosthetic on him as well?
CorbinNZ@reddit
Why his eyes not glo?
Expensive-Lie@reddit
More like Dr. Bronx
fitnesswill@reddit
I thought that was a member of the Blueman Group
Apprehensive_Nebula8@reddit
DomSchraa@reddit
Fucking quantavious lmaoooo
Almost as ridiculous as thurman
Emperorofgamers1@reddit
Nobody here has watched the show or they would understand why he's a black guy
bendbars_liftgates@reddit
Anon aims for a funny haha racism name and instead we get a rejected Roman senator turned X-man robbing the liquor store.
lagrandesgracia@reddit
This thing could have been one of the best series ever made, instead it was a completely forgetable, retconning, badly written and boring piece of dogshit. Damon Lindelof, I hope you die while taking a shit.
DasToyfel@reddit
Haha racism. Le funny.