Outbound checkpoints to CA?
Posted by pineapplecatlady24@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 710 comments

I saw a brief thread saying that there checkpoints just before the Canadian border telling American citizens they now need permission to leave? Can anyone else confirm if this is actually true?
LCK124@reddit
I saw a Canadian news article about outbound checkpoints a couple of days ago. I don't know that people needed permission to leave, but they were definitely being stopped and questioned. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
overitallofittoo@reddit
Serious question. What are they looking for? What would the US care about items going into Canada? Money, gold?
Matticus54r@reddit
Anybody moving this week with a Uhaul full of their shit willing to give it a test? Yeah, I’m leaving here…straight to jail
TheGreatRandolph@reddit
No Uhaul, but in a week and change I’m headed home to Alaska. I have work lined up but all based on verbal agreements, no paper trail. I’ll try to remember to update.
Techienickie@reddit
Hey how about an update on your trip?
TheGreatRandolph@reddit
I PM’d you after I crossed the border. Apparently Chrome will let me reply, but the garbage Reddit app won’t since OP deleted the thread.
I’ll update my comment tomorrow after I make it into Alaska in case there are any issues there, but no checks from the US at Sumas, NE of Bellingham, and the Canadian side was the quickest crossing I’ve had.
Techienickie@reddit
Hey thanks for the update!
AlpacaSwimTeam@reddit
I'm headed to Alaska in a couple of weeks to see extended family. Can't wait to see what happens 😒
TrumptyPumpkin@reddit
Papers please.
AlpacaSwimTeam@reddit
So in all seriousness, I had been planning on traveling with a firearm. Now I don't know what to do, like is the juice worth the squeeze?
Yeetuhway@reddit
There's no way you've been through Canada before, or you'd already know how much of a monster pain it is to get permits for the transport of firearms through Canada. Canadian border agents fuckin suck.
AlpacaSwimTeam@reddit
That's true! I haven't ever been to Canada and am just now starting my research.
Yeetuhway@reddit
If they're not prohibited firearms you're gonna need to fill out the normal forms that you can get off the RCMPs website for firearms. If they're prohibited it gets harder and you'll have to call the RCMP chief of firearms or whatever cause you need special forms and it has to get signed off on by them specifically. You're gonna wanna do this ahead of time, they're not always prompt getting you your permits.
AlpacaSwimTeam@reddit
Oh thanks so much! A regular ole 9mm pistol with no crazy mods or attachments I hope wont be prohibited but we'll see 😬 Thanks again!
Yeetuhway@reddit
It's prohibited. Semiautomatic handguns are all prohibited.
crlthrn@reddit
Bold of you to assume there'll be a 'please'...
HawaiianPunchaNazi@reddit
Remindme! 2 weeks
NoMoreSorrys@reddit
Followed for an update!
alpacasonice@reddit
…this would be considered a paper trail now, no?
KuroFafnar@reddit
Him putting some words to paper saying that somebody else made him some promise of employment does not count as a paper trail. The other person(s) also need to put the promise in some traceable form such as text, email, letter, notarized napkin, etc
alpacasonice@reddit
I’m not a lawyer, but if you’re concerned about a border crossing, I find it laughable that you would then talk about something that could get you into trouble out here on a public forum. Sure, maybe they’ve taken steps to make it harder to figure out who they are in real life or whatever. But if someone wants to know, particularly a government, they’ll find out.
notthesethings@reddit
You’ve completely missed the point. They don’t want to avoid a paper trail. They want to be able to provide a paper trail to the authorities stopping them at the border. They want to be able to show that they have a job waiting for them in Alaska and they’ll just be passing through Canada to get there.
fruderduck@reddit
Shouldn’t be any of their business.
TheGreatRandolph@reddit
OP here for the paper trail section. I’m not concerned about a paper trail one way or the other, I came South to see friends and buy a vehicle after mine got totaled. I was headed up again anyway. The construction job and fishing gig are both word of mouth, show up and get to it, sign papers later situations. I’m not worried. I get “random” searches everywhere I go, whether I’m driving a farm beater or a girlfriend’s convertible. Long hair and dirty clothes or short hair and clean town clothes. I get “I didn’t think you were wearing a seatbelt” for stops. They can search my car, they won’t find anything because it’s not worth it for me to carry anything illegal. It’s a pain in the ass every time, but that’s life. Do I think a bonus search to drive home will make a reap difference in anyone’s safety? Nope. But I expect I’ll be fine even if they pop open my phone and read this.
Matticus54r@reddit
The last time we hear from this cunt haha. Good luck brother. Spent a couple summers running a dozer up there in my younger/dumber years.
TheGreatRandolph@reddit
Sounds a hell of a lot better than time on a crab boat!
Clear-Implement-9290@reddit
Try to get some documentation from your job before you leave.
TheGreatRandolph@reddit
I live there. I probably won’t sign anything for the construction job right before we go fishing, and likely won’t sign anything for fishing until we’ve been out there a while. Or that’s my experience on how such things go when you’re not with a big company. I expect I’ll be fine… but time will tell.
SunriseCavalier@reddit
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DrDark0@reddit
Please do. Stay safe.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
*El Salvadorian * jail
BronzeDucky@reddit
Stay with the times. Libyan jails for you. Not bad enough to go to a third world prison close to the US, now they want to send people to a third world prison half the world away, to a country in a civil war that has a Level 4 travel advisory.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Rwanda too!
TagsMa@reddit
What the hell is it with people being sent to Rwanda???
The Tories tried it in the UK, and got shut down by the courts (at least our lot listened to the courts) and when Labour got in, the whole scheme was scrapped. But why there?
The only thing I can think is that something rare and expensive has been found there and they need warm bodies to mine it. Otherwise, what is the point?
riotz1@reddit
They probably want some whities to torture to pay back for intervening in their civil war or some shite
monstermashslowdance@reddit
Even worse, I heard they’re going to make people spend 24 hours with Stephen Miller.
chriczko@reddit
I've been to hell before. This was it.
knappy2010@reddit
Oh god. That might be worse than prison.
skipdog98@reddit
Canadians would sure like to know. People interviewed by Canadian media were mystified and said the checks involved not just travel documents but extensive vehicle searches (including behind the glovebox). These are EXIT inspections not entry inspections.
overitallofittoo@reddit
That's what I'm trying to figure out. It makes no sense!
chaosgazer@reddit
setting a precedent so they can intercept undesirables trying to escape. pergananant women seeking abortions, political actors seeking asylum, and many more
blaggard5175@reddit
*pregnerant
chunky_mikki@reddit
*pregante
UnofficiallyDone@reddit
Pergnat
chaosgazer@reddit
see all of the millenials getting in on this
blaggard5175@reddit
Always forgotten, gen x.
chaosgazer@reddit
that's what Millennials are known for ;)
Jetshadow@reddit
*gregnant
Disinformation_Bot@reddit
Ma'am, is there a possibly that you're pegrent?
phuketawl@reddit
How do they know who is pregnant? Usually people looking for abortions don't look pregnant at the time.
Oven-sock@reddit
Every female is required to pee on a stick now, when entering Canada aye
chaosgazer@reddit
there's ways other than visual checks
TheCircularSolitude@reddit
I have no idea if this is related, of course, however, they are going to be looking through insurance claims as part of their autism registry. Don't think for a second that they'll only violate this privacy for just autistic people.
Plus folks still use digital period trackers and I assume that data could be used by anyone willing to pay enough.
Themadgray@reddit
"pagnate"
overitallofittoo@reddit
That feels the most likely.
skipdog98@reddit
To normalize it? Show your papers!
flowerchildmime@reddit
We cannot allow this to be normal.
skipdog98@reddit
Too little too late it seems. Remember air travel pre9/11? No liquids rules.
Remember land crossings between Canada and the USA pre9/11 — didn’t even need a passport just a DL.
nIcAutOr@reddit
Yup. Used to live on the border and I used to cross with friends and their parents often, when I was a kid. Didn’t even need any kind of documentation. Crazy.
Salt_Temporary_249@reddit
Years back, went across w/ 1yo and parents and no birth cert; had to find PICS on phones to show parents/ grandparents at hospital at birth; fortunate GM had them; had us all sweating.
Remarkable-Opening69@reddit
You definitely needed a birth certificate up until the time you needed a passport so you are full of shit. Why don’t you look up the drug bust at the Detroit border over the weekend and maybe you’ll have an answer to this post. Or continue the fear mongering.
justasque@reddit
When I crossed as a kid we had our passports with us, but the border agent just asked if we were American citizens and often took our word for it when we said yes. We didn’t bring birth certificates, and they didn’t ask for drivers’ licenses.
nIcAutOr@reddit
I’m talking about the 80s. Maybe I had my birth certificate but I doubt it. I’m sure the parents had their DL to cross, but me as a child? Now, I’d have to have a guarantor to sign a notorized letter about why I’m taking a non relative child, that showed parents permission. That part is good, I can stand behind that. I’m just saying that crossing back in the day was the wild Wild West, much like the rest of the 80s.
leomickey@reddit
Not where I live. Southern Central Ontario. I’m Canadian. Are you saying US citizens didn’t need a passport?
TheAlphaKiller17@reddit
I lived in Michigan for a long time and it was a rite of passage to go to Canada to get drunk on your 19th birthday. A lot of kids are now going to miss out on that experience. Yes, I'm whining about not enough teenage drinking. Kids deserve fun!
KrombopulosDelphiki@reddit
Went to college in Bowling Green and the hour drive to Windsor for everyone’s 19th is a cherished memory. Shit we used to take weed INTO Canada with us, they never bothered us going in, we just never brought any back with us. Driver’s license was all we needed.
mike_avl@reddit
Strange times indeed.
exodominus@reddit
I remember early 2000’s we only needed a basic id to get back into the us, when my scout troop went
Salute-Major-Echidna@reddit
I used to go across with only school ID in the 1970s to go to concerts
kashy87@reddit
You could cross into Mexico in 06 with just a license too, and come back. I know because stupid 18 year olds decided to go to Tijuana at 130 in the morning and got lost.
The road that goes past the airport yea that damned road goes from paved to dirt and was like driving off a curb... That we didn't die is shocking.
BussyBaron@reddit
Liquids weren't banned until quite a bit after 9/11.
Salt_Temporary_249@reddit
There was Nothing Normal about the past 4 years in drugs or immigration
JesusMurphy99@reddit
You're a dollar short and an hour late for that.
mkjimbo@reddit
We shouldn’t allow it to become normal, passive resistance all the way. Don’t answer questions and block the road as much as you can without drawing the jackboots ire. If we all do this they’ll stop (hopefully) or at least slow down.
Someinterestingbs-td@reddit
This
pinelandpuppy@reddit
The real reason they built that wall was to keep people IN.
Tee999@reddit
Exactly this.
Significant_Emu2286@reddit
Fucking dog has fucking papers.
OVER THE LINE!
skipdog98@reddit
The CDC dog paper fiasco last year. JFC.
Significant_Emu2286@reddit
Fucking dog has fucking papers.
OVER THE LINE!!
Abject_Dingo_2733@reddit
I have had to show my papers in every country I’ve ever travelled to. They search my luggage, metal detect my body, and whatever that machine does at TSA. It’s already normal…
UPdrafter906@reddit
“Passport Patriot?” as the new “Papers Comrade?”
ibreathunderwater@reddit
It serves two functions.
First, it normalizes checkpoints like these for when they turn against white Americans who may not be the right political type, who may need to flee the US once they’re done making a massive list of, trans people first, then gays, then opposing political beliefs/unchristian people.
Second, it’s a function of how our immigration works. In order to get a Visa, you typically need to get it while you are in another country. Canada, presumably, would be the easiest if you are not a migrant worker or asylum seeker from Mexico or Central or South America.
Along with habeus corpus and posse comitatus being eliminated, this is a massive red flag and further cements my belief that they intend to kill all the aforementioned demographics, not deport them.
DigitalWarHorse2050@reddit
Pretty much like the script from the movie Civil War (2024 edition) where people were stopped for know reason except to validate their political alliance
insertwittynamethere@reddit
So I'd heard anecdotally that Canadians will be a bit understanding if one crosses the border at a non-traditional crossing in order to find passage to a different country, just that there would be questions, but not necessarily returning you to the US. What have you heard regarding that?
It's funny/sad how this is legit turning into Handmaid's Tale.
Unfair_Bunch519@reddit
It’s the India Pakistan conflict. Both the US and Canada have Pakistan and India immigrants living within their borders. However the ones living here belonged to very fringe political groups back in their homeland and this border security may be a way to prevent terror groups in America from crossing into Canada and vise verse
Kascket@reddit
He built the wall to keep us in
Maxamillion-X72@reddit
It does if cruelty is the point and you're looking to find immigrants who are trying to flee to Canada before ICE knocks down their door to send them to a super-max prison in a foreign country.
entcanta333@reddit
To scare people
overitallofittoo@reddit
That's the only thing that makes sense.
HSBillyMays@reddit
Maybe... to stop "fentanyl pipelines" from flowing into Canada? Lmao
youngteach@reddit
Everyone knows what's happening. The USA is becoming a police state. They are just trial running it before martial law is put in place.
Throw_Away_Acct_2023@reddit
Becoming a police state? We’ve already been that, they are just ramping it up now.
Fun_Possibility_4566@reddit
except you can still leave by air.
Neverstopstopping82@reddit
My husband is French and convinced we’d be able to get on a flight to France even if the US closes borders. This post is making me doubt that we could get out.
OtisPan@reddit
Thank christ I've got a trebuchet
BobcatOk7492@reddit
Kinda started with the "drivers lic./ DUI checkpoints- getting us ready for the crap.....
Sufficient-Dinner-27@reddit
For now
CharlesMcnulty@reddit
Police state mostly applies to the poor
Soft_Walrus_3605@reddit
They've systematically been lowering confidence in air travel with the crashes and malfunctions
Jubjars@reddit
I mean the DPRK style watchtowers with snipers aren't up there, yet.
cranberry_spike@reddit
Pretty sure we're already there.
ibreathunderwater@reddit
Becoming?
___VenN@reddit
Probably looking for immigrants... Although it's kinda insane that they are trying to actively arrest and deport them rather than just letting them leave the country. This shows that the "freeing the country from illegals" is a facade for something else. Maybe ICE gets paid for every guy they catch?
594896582@reddit
Sounds like checking for illegal guns, drugs, and human trafficking victims.
LilGrunties@reddit
How do they check behind the glove box? Rip your car apart?
phuketawl@reddit
They're looking for people fleeing into Canada 😳
WarpSpeedWaffle@reddit
Possible they’re looking for people they wanted to deport?
Wompguinea@reddit
I would assume it's to make sure you're not smuggling brown people out of the country before ICE can kidnap and traffic them.
Immortal-one@reddit
Behind the glove box of a Miata?
MovinOnUp2TheMoon@reddit
You’re suggesting this whole thing might take a sharp shift toward the rational?
elandrieljr@reddit
Actually yes lol. I remember an article I read in college that showed creative ways people have smuggled (into) America. Dude was laying sideways, behind the dash; they took the glovebox out and there was dude’s face - riddle with disappointment.
Wompguinea@reddit
People are crafty, you never know.
Platnun12@reddit
They don't want people jumping ship
America is basically becoming a dictatorship that is arguably dumber than the Nazis
So of course leaving is basically a massive wtf to them. "Why would you wanna leave our great country"
Basically putting the most delusional and idiotic human beings in charge of a system of checks and balances that they've historically always mishandled.
This entire administration should be fucking jailed by the end of this without any hope of seeing daylight
Fourpatch@reddit
I live near there. Back before I put my elbows up I would travel down once or twice a month for gas and or groceries. In the early new year my vehicle was stopped and searched by US customs agents while I was near but not at the truck crossing. They lifted up and looked in all the nooks and crannies of my minivan. Think spare tire and side panels being opened. Thought it was strange. The other thing that’s happening with regularity is that at Peace Arch the US sets up a funnel so all vehicles wanting to enter Canada must form a single lane and a visual inspection / drug dogs sniffs take place before they hit Canada.
They have also set up increased patrols along Zero Avenue. Just guys sitting in SUV’s looking super bored.
oniiBash2@reddit
In order to enter Canada, would you not need to exit the US? And vice versa?
skipdog98@reddit
But we’ve not been subject to exit checks/inspections by US CBP in the past when headed NB to Canada. So this is new and unusual. Some folks are saying they’ve encountered it at other crossings but we’ve been using this and other close crossings for 40y (weekly to monthly) and never encountered it. Definitely new here
oniiBash2@reddit
Just seems like pretty standard border security measures have been implemented in a place that didn't have them before.
Not sure why they didn't have them before. They definitely should've.
A little inconvenient, I guess, but that's international travel for you.
skipdog98@reddit
Why “should’ve” though. It’s the longest undefended border. Previously no visa needed for Canadians tourists to stay under 6m. There’s never been exit scans or inspections.
oniiBash2@reddit
Because it's an international border? You're leaving one territory with certain laws and afforded rights and entering another with different laws and afforded rights.
Just because it's been lax in the past doesn't mean it should remain lax forever.
It's safer for any party entering or exiting either country to go through these checks, and safer for the citizens of both nations. The checks will, hopefully, deter criminal and illegal activity and thus make the border more secure for both countries.
The only negative to legal, law-abiding citizens/visitors is an inconvenience of time, which seems like a fair trade.
skipdog98@reddit
This is ridiculous and clearly not what is happening. The CBP are not protecting Americans from Canadian laws. LOL.
oniiBash2@reddit
That's not what I'm saying. If you truly don't understand why entry and exit checks are happening at a literal international border, then idk what to tell you.
skipdog98@reddit
US exit checks aka harassment of Canadians does not make Canada safer. That is the job of Canadian border agents.
oniiBash2@reddit
Canadian citizens are not the only ones crossing the border. If the traveler is attempting to move illegal contraband across the border, American authorities have the right to subject them to American law before the contraband either gets into Canada or is found by Canadian border authorities. Also true if the contraband in question is people, going either willingly or otherwise.
Seems perfectly reasonable for American authorities to want a shot at stopping illegal border movement in their country without subjecting the Canadian authorities to the processing, or Canadian citizens to whatever criminality is occuring.
So, disagree with you there.
mkjimbo@reddit
There is a concerted effort on the part of concerned Americans to repatriate unlawfully detained Canada geese. US CBP is trying to stop that effort. No seriously we have no idea but we know this is going to be a long grueling four years with decades to recover from the damage this dipshit is doing.
overitallofittoo@reddit
😂😂. I hope we can recover!
PrincessKatiKat@reddit
They are supposedly checking the temporary visas of Canadians who are leaving, to see if they overstayed their U.S. visa. If they did they may get flagged and not get another one to come back next year.
My understanding is they just wave Americans through to the Canadian checkpoint.
overitallofittoo@reddit
Thank you!!! One of the few answers that make sense!
PrincessKatiKat@reddit
As a side note, what people are missing is there are a LOT of Canadians who have vacation homes in the U.S. and they go back and forth a couple times a year on a tourist visa.
In Florida, the governor is whining about immigration putting too much pressure on tourist Canadians who are close to the end of their visa and in some cases are flagging them from returning to the U.S. next year.
Each time they do that crap, they almost immediately cause another unaffordable house to go onto the failing Florida housing market and it drags the tourism numbers even lower. It’s wild, and sort of funny.
_reality_is_humming_@reddit
You should look up what happens at the borders to exit a nation right before a fascists seizes power...
it aint pretty.
Smokey76@reddit
Any good sources to read you'd recommend?
_reality_is_humming_@reddit
The obvious ones are Nazi Germany, which prevented Jews and political opponents as well as other "undesireables" from leaving. Imagine the sinister intent when you call someone undesirable and then force them to stay. They levied taxes for leaving and property seizures. We all know what happened next.
The Soviet Union under Stalin (not fascist but authoritarian). By the 1920s leaving without permission was nearly impossible. Fleeing was treating as treason. Famines, purges, and the Gulag were the results.
North Korea is a living example of a fascist that wont let you leave. Obviously starvation, isolation, etc are big problems there.
The Berlin wall is another recent example. You could and would be shot trying to cross it.
Francoist Span is another good example. Again, purges, purity tests, and all the stuff that goes along with that.
When a fascist seizes power the first thing they do is close the borders. They need backs for the labor camps, trigger fingers for the rifles, and boots for necks. You will have either already joined, be compelled to join by force and enter the meat grinder, or be purged and it happens
every. single. time.
Neverstopstopping82@reddit
What are your thoughts on foreign nationals? My husband is French and convinced his embassy could somehow get us out. I’ve been trying to judge when/if to leave.
_reality_is_humming_@reddit
This is an utterly shameful thing to have to ask but it is where we are at as a nation: Is your husband white? If he is you could probably put it off until the shooting starts and be able to get out via embassy. If not, I would have a bag packed at all times.
Neverstopstopping82@reddit
Luckily (?) he’s white. Sad to have to factor that.
_reality_is_humming_@reddit
Sad and disgusting but here we are :(
40% of this country has always been racist but they at least stayed under their rock. Now, with the president being an openly racist piece of shit, they are embolden and think "its ok to be racist". Sherman apparently did not burn enough of the south.
thisdude415@reddit
I think for most of the authoritarian states that restricted leaving, those rules only applied to their own citizens (assuming the foreign national was not arrested)
Smokey76@reddit
Thanks all good examples. I’m thinking if you have to run for Canada is it best to land cross in Washington state or try and boat it there. Probably no good options when border is closed.
_reality_is_humming_@reddit
Once the borders close, if it comes to that, anywhere with population density will not be accessible and anywhere without it my be patrolled by air or monitored electronically. If we have to cross it will be on foot, in the spring, with only what we can carry. There are some really sparse areas in Washington, sure, but North Dakota Montana etc will have long stretches of total wilderness that they assume no one would be crazy enough to cross because it will mean literally walking for days. Thats where we plan to cross if the time ever comes.
594896582@reddit
Personally, I hope they're lookong for illegal guns, drugs, and human traffickers. But we won't know until people who've been stopped start talking or the govt does... assuming either are being honest.
Alarming-Distance385@reddit
Cash (you have to declare the cash you're leaving the U.S. with if it's over a certain amount), drugs, weapons, ammunition (especially things that would be illegal in CA), illegal foods, and goods. The list is longer than people think.
We are used to these types of outbound inspections on the Southern border.
redwolf1430@reddit
Maple syrup
overitallofittoo@reddit
You know, this is probably the real answer. 🤣🤣🤣
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
They can legslly sieze and auction off anything they want if they susoect it was involved in the admission of a crime. I'd expect money, jewelry, any valuables.
overitallofittoo@reddit
Have they taken anything yet? That we know of?
Notorious_RNG@reddit
Civil Forfeiture is a larger source of revenue than all the "actual" robbery and burglary in the US combined.
overitallofittoo@reddit
The reports of what they're taking isn't money.
LokeCanada@reddit
Reported as 350 rounds of ammo and a small amount of drugs. No money seizures reported.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Siezures are about $1.7 billion in revenue per year. The CAF doesn't denigrate beyond that. You'd need to FOIA it but yes, CPB absolutely siezes goods at the border.
Particular-Extent-76@reddit
I’m going to sound alarmist but my guess is people who, according to 47 and co, belong on a list or in a camp, detention center, or “wellness farm” which are clearly also camps. They are not playing around
sparkly_butthole@reddit
Not yet but it's coming.
Notorious_RNG@reddit
You know what would be leaving the US and going into Canada?
Americans.
And a republic that's rapidly devolving into a fucking dictatorship does not take kindly to losing its 'property'.
LokeCanada@reddit
US customs says they are looking for illegal goods. They reported as seizing a small amount of drugs and about 350 rounds of ammo after 3 days. Almost nothing for the effort they put in.
It’s viewed in Canada as ridiculous as everyone knows they are going through a Canadian checkpoint so they are not going to pack anything illegal. Just as a terror tactic from the US government.
Sillypugpugpugpug@reddit
They are looking for dissent.
crusoe@reddit
They're looking for undocumented immigrants trying to escape to Canada
overitallofittoo@reddit
Why though? If you want someone to leave, why stop them?
MezcalFlame@reddit
Cash is always an opportunity to confiscate. Or to deter asylum seekers.
In theory, every successful asylum adjudication in Canada is one less deportation that the Trump Administration can add to the tally.
Significant-Dog-8166@reddit
Well technically America is exporting vastly more Fentanyl to Canada than Canada is to America. Canada just isn’t as finger-pointy about it. This could be a part of an agreement the Trump administration made but didn’t shout about because it makes America look terrible.
overitallofittoo@reddit
Lol. You think that America cares about their image with Canada right now? Seriously?!
Significant-Dog-8166@reddit
I didn’t say “cares”. Trump just met with Carney several days ago. I have no idea what deals they made. Trump tends to “burn all the papers and turn off the cameras” for the various favors he demands in trade.
Ciennas@reddit
Trumps regime and his backers do not. I imagine all the trapped civilians in America do.
SurviveYourAdults@reddit
drugs, guns, human trafficking
OhmSafely@reddit
Potential conscripts for mango man's future wars.
salynch@reddit
DHS Secretary’s iPhone.
/s
bobbymcpresscot@reddit
maybe it's their side of the deal of trying to stop copious amounts of fent from getting into canada.
No-Cupcake370@reddit
"activists", "traitors"... God only knows. Soon, trans, queer, feminist, allies, autistic (see also the registry they want to make, and DHS surveilance based on gender/ sexual orientation)
freshkicks@reddit
Many of the illegal guns in Canada for organized crime and even just street level criminal stuff is smuggled in via the US. There was fun running cross border drones for a bit
Beginning_Fill206@reddit
Harassment tactic. Make people afraid to move freely.
AlleyPee@reddit
I believe they are trying to dissuade Ameicans from leaving so they'll spend money there instead of abroad.
They want to make it scary enough, just enough of a pain in the ass for people to just stay at home and spend money there. The Canadians have responded resoundly that they will NOT go to the States while this fascist and racist regime is in power.
Hold the line, Canada.
dalisair@reddit
Here’s the real deal on this - Canada has been asking the US for years to check for drugs. We are the problem in this scenario.
Do I think they really are doing this? No. This is an excuse. But on the surface the US has done these checks before off and on, just not as frequently as they are now. And they are using these checks as an excuse.
overitallofittoo@reddit
So you think after Trump calls Canada the 51st state, that it's the perfect time to do this?
And Canada is NOT the one stopping more people at the border?
That makes zero sense.
dalisair@reddit
No. I think that the US has done this in the past and it’s high visibility right now.
They are also using it as an excuse to be more authoritarian.
Canada has asked the US to help stop the drug trade into Canada. They have asked the US to do more checks. So in a vacuum this is a nothing. But again, we all know that the US government is using it as an excuse to do more and search for more people to arrest and deport to get their numbers up.
SnowyNittes@reddit
They’re looking for people smuggling brown folk to Canada. Simple as that.
overitallofittoo@reddit
That's what they want though? Are they going to give them $1000 if they find them?
SnowyNittes@reddit
Probably arrest them for trying to smuggle them out of the country. It’s essentially the same system as coming into the United States from Mexico. They’ll check your car if they’re suspicious at all. It’s a sad time we live in.
djfishfeet@reddit
It might be as simple as finding people to send to their detention camps.
Being private businesses owned by large corporations, those camps will have a mighty hunger for their human product.
Sufficient_Room2619@reddit
They're locking the borders because they don't want their scapegoats to avoid what's coming next.
overitallofittoo@reddit
But they aren't locking the borders.
Sufficient_Room2619@reddit
Not yet, no. Can you think of any other reason for this, though? This is the frog in the cream.
Skinny-on-the-Inside@reddit
They are likely looking for people who may have entered US illegally to meet the arrest quotas.
overitallofittoo@reddit
And they haven't found a single one?
literatelier@reddit
Maybe they are looking for people trying to escape into Canada.
xxFrenchToastxx@reddit
Outbound checkpoint in Detroit caught 850lbs of cocaine heading into to Canada recently
kinglouie493@reddit
Facial recognition, gotta build that data base
overitallofittoo@reddit
I bet everyone they stopped already has a driver's license.
Hootn_and_a_hollern@reddit
The US isn't setting up checkpoints leaving the US.
This is a lie.
LilSquashBlossum@reddit
Where have you been? I’ve even heard interviews with those affected by the new US checkpoints going into Canada on As It Happens. The news is all over. Go look before you spew.
Hootn_and_a_hollern@reddit
I've been to both Canada and Colombia for work, in the last two weeks.
It's literally no different for US citizens traveling back and forth than it has been for the last 20 years....And I've been traveling for work for the last 20 years.
LilSquashBlossum@reddit
This is ONLY at far western checkpoints…for now at least. And the stops and searches are very real and backing up traffic. Try looking it up. This is one article of many discussing it.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
Hootn_and_a_hollern@reddit
I've been present for events in the world that were reported on MSM later that day, and the reports weren't as it happened.
I will continue to travel for work, and trust my own eyes and instincts. Thus far, I have no reason to feel like I should be alarmed by what the MSM reports.
It's mostly bullshit
overitallofittoo@reddit
So explain the video. Honestly.
PmMeUrTinyAsianTits@reddit
Things to steal, people to kidnap to pump up numbers, optics, and most importantly fear. They want anyone who might want to get out to feel unsafe and uncomfortable about it.
Wuellig@reddit
The US regime has contracts with (both foreign and domestic) prisons to fill them with prisoners. The regime's troops are looking for the people it would be easy to fill them with as part of their job description. "Who can we disappear to fill our quotas?"
overitallofittoo@reddit
From the video, they're sure picking the wrong people to question.
RiPPeR69420@reddit
Anything they can grab via civil forfeiture would be my guess
overitallofittoo@reddit
But none of these people has said anything was taken, right? That we know of?
cserskine@reddit
I saw a TikTok of a man in upstate NY reporting the same thing. ICE was stopping all vehicles exiting the US to enter Canada for unknown reasons.
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
link?
cserskine@reddit
[https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP86movSJ/]
TikTok user PNW daily, posted on 5/10/25 (my error, I thought this was occurring in NY)
cserskine@reddit
I’ll see if I can post it
LumpyMcKwiz@reddit
As a frequent border crosser between BC/Washington in the Okanagan , there have always been US checkpoints just before the border headed into Canada.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Per the article these are emergency stops usually used for Amber Alerts that can take hours and involve dogs and full searches. Not your usual questions.
MikeyBugs@reddit
Just an FYI for everyone. If you're traveling abroad or with airlines or any where with TSA/Customs/ICE checkpoints, turn off your phone and/or set your log in to be an alphanumeric pin or password. Do NOT use biometrics. Agencies need to obtain a warrant to access a device locked with an alphanumeric lock code but not with a biometric lock. They can force you to unlock a device using just a biometric lock.
Also, neck gaiters and dark tinted polarized sunglasses.
-Morning_Coffee-@reddit
Better to carry a burner phone. Refuse to cooperate with a phone search will just get it confiscated.
FanaaBaqaa@reddit
Elaborate?
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
if head to guess, facial recognition software
MikeyBugs@reddit
Yep. To conceal your face (somewhat) from whatever pictures they're taking at the checkpoints.
PhuqBeachesGitMonee@reddit
Couldn’t you line your windshield with IR lights on the inside?
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
link to proof about pics at the border database?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Yas
MarryMeDuffman@reddit
This is sick stuff.
Takemyfishplease@reddit
God, so much fReEdOmZ I can barely take it.
This is not a good sign for anyone
Middle-Accountant-49@reddit
I have never seen those crossing in bc. Canadian customs on way out, american on way in.
Paige_UwU@reddit
Okanagan mentioned. Grew up in Tonasket
EastTyne1191@reddit
How did you like it? Lots of land out there for sale right now, with shit the way it is I'm tempted to go take a look.
Paige_UwU@reddit
Personally I hated it. I think there’s MUCH better off grid living.
lanmountjoy25@reddit
Grew up in Winthrop :)
PM_ME_YER_SIDEBOOB@reddit
I've been there a few times! Grew up in Penticton, now live in Osoyoos...
Paige_UwU@reddit
Been there a few times also! I left tonasket in 07 and never looked back. Used to work for their fire department. Graduated republic high school, first job in Omak. Went to oroville for the lack every summer, lake Bonaparte was beautiful too. Spent my 13th birthday in Canada just across the border. Beautiful area but I am beyond glad to be long gone
skipdog98@reddit
I wouldn’t call us frequent users of the Oroville crossing, but we do it annually and have never seen a CBP checkpoint NB before the Canadian border.
LumpyMcKwiz@reddit
we go biweekly at that crossing. Just before you are back into lineup at Canadian side there is always a US Border patrol truck there and it is manned with 2 US customs agents quite often.
nivix_zixer@reddit
When I have driven to Canada, the "USA -> Canada" transition is typically smooth. Sometimes I don't even get stopped. It's always the "Canada -> USA" where I get the third degree.
LumpyMcKwiz@reddit
Same here. I have been treated absolutely terribly by Canadian Customs Officers, never by US. Sometimes US are a little no nonsense attitudes but never jerky like Canadians.
mommacat94@reddit
I've gotten the car searched coming back to the US at that crossing. Fun times!
SorryImNotOnReddit@reddit
Same for me, but I do the truck crossing at Pacific Highway PoE. There would be a handful of CBP officers on foot before the duty free going north before the customs booth, roughly 800ft before the Canadian booths.
But to funnel vehicles into one lane and do trunk and thorough inspections are new.
fraudor@reddit
They have been doing this for a long time, it’s just news this time around. It’s not really clear if it’s happening at a higher frequency though. I use this crossing (and the neighbouring one 10 minutes away) quite frequently.
urlach3r@reddit
Have any of these people tried to get back in?
johnnyringo1985@reddit
They’re trying to identify people that are self-deporting, maybe the cameras aren’t set up yet, or they need cars to slow down or stop for cameras to work wired.com story
SharkOnGames@reddit
Everyone who goes through the border gets stopped and questioned .
That's the whole point of the border .
LikesBlueberriesALot@reddit
You usually get stopped by the country you’re entering. Not by the one you’re leaving.
PmMeUrTinyAsianTits@reddit
And what do you think was going to happen if the gestapo didn't like the answer to their request for "papers please?" A friendly hug and "on your way then"?
What do you think is the POINT of stopping people LEAVING?
"oh but I haven't PERSONALLY seen them ACTIVELY with their hand in the cookie jar" being reduced to "Oh I dunno..." is ridiculous.
Traditional-Egg-5871@reddit
This was also an article in the Buffalo News; they're tracking both the Americans and Canadians going over & coming back.
Imo, it's a gestapo tactic when they start shooting Americans who are trying to hop the border.
Source: read the story in Friday's edition.
InsaneGuyReggie@reddit
They probably don’t yet, but this sounds like the beginnings of an iron curtain.
Scoots1234567@reddit
Two things I'm guessing. Checking for immigrants leaving. They all need to be counted. F me. Checķing that women are not seeking abortions.
greenmyrtle@reddit
Take a twitter post, ask if it’s true, know that everyone will ASSUME it’s true, others will embellish and amplify … look i hate this regime too but making shit up doesn’t help anyone. Here’s the news https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
Scoots1234567@reddit
I'm more of an independent media person than.corporate media. Im not making shit up. No.one knows why so we are all speculating. Period. Believe me I'm not the only one saying the same thing. What will really say the most is who is in charge of the.check.points. These days ICE seems to be everywhere with unlimited power.
therapistofcats@reddit
There was a post about it last week. Then I saw this article about what they found.
https://globalnews.ca/news/11171539/us-border-officials-contraband-seized-additional-bc-checkpoints/
Bit I havent heard anything about needing permission to leave. Sounds like someone is just stirring the pot.
greenmyrtle@reddit
Correct. This is not currently true.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
They probably are checking for money being smuggled out of the country.
Glittering-Age-9549@reddit
Kick Latinos and brown people out. Keep white people locked inside.
It will be troublesome if educated, skilled people (at least the white ones) leave the country when both economy deteriorates and repression ramps up. It will also be a problem if poor white people leaves instead of taking the jobs immigrants won't be doing anymore.
greenmyrtle@reddit
The twitter post is inaccurate. Don’t just riff on it. Here’s a Canadian news report https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Oh stop it. Shit, talk about being racist!
Careful_Hat_5872@reddit
Really? No evidence of that when I cleared customs yesterday into Canada
greenmyrtle@reddit
Right. OP asks the question based on a twitter post, so everyone assumes it’s fact, it’s not : https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
AngryTimmer@reddit
They were doing checks last week best BC. But it was for contraband. Nobody was being denied permission to leave solely because they were a U.S citizen.
Rand_alThoor@reddit
exit restrictions remind me far too much of DDR/East Germany.
Trump2016: "We're building a Wall, (to keep them out) and they will pay for it"
Trump 2025: "We're building a Wall to prevent our citizen assets from fleeing"
Ronald Reagan: "Tear. Down. That. Wall! "
greenmyrtle@reddit
This is a twitter post. There are not exit restrictions. Here’s a legit news article on it https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
Creative-Cow-5598@reddit
That’s generally what happens when they want to protect the border. It’s not to keep people out,or safe. It’s to keep people inside the borders. So if they can’t leave. Then, you have control.
greenmyrtle@reddit
The twitter claim of “permission to leave” is not factual
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
greenmyrtle@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
No reference to “permission to leave” This article from Canadian broadcasting company. So this is ragebait on twitter. It’s easy to cross check this with legit news sources.
skipdog98@reddit
This is absolutely happening, for about the last week. US CBP agents have set up a checkpoint on US soil in the northbound lanes to of I-5 at Peace Arch border crossing. It is NOT Cdn CBSA agents and not on Canadian soil. The Canadian agents are further north. I have never seen this happen in 40+ years using that crossing.
https://borderlineups.com/peace-arch-border-wait-times/
Salt_Temporary_249@reddit
Thinking out loud, You know, when you ask/ require other countries to drug check b4 allowing traffic to goto USA, "reciprocal action" is usually required. It is better police work and better enforcement and easier prosecution if you can get the Source
mathiustus@reddit
So what happens if you just tell the agents to get fucked? What authority do they have to question you on the way out? On the way in, sure. Out? I don’t know what Authority they have.
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
where is it on that website? cant find it on images
skipdog98@reddit
Scroll down to the North cams. It’s the second cam.
Mysterious_Roof4692@reddit
You haven’t crossed the border frequently enough then. I’ve encountered these outbound inspections at least 2x in the last 15 years. It’s common on commercial lanes but they do this as well on non-commercial lanes.
The only difference this time is they did a multi-day operation instead of the one day or “as-needed” when there’s an intelligence tip.
g4ryo4k_@reddit
You don't read frequently enough then. These are inbound inspections, which is why it makes no sense.
Mysterious_Roof4692@reddit
Sounds like you skipped English classes then. We’re talking about OUTBOUND inspections and not inbound
EpicWheezes@reddit
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Gchildress63@reddit
Are they trying to grab people who are “self deporting?”
zw9491@reddit
Is there anything else to substantiate this besides a tweet? This doesn’t sound right even in this environment.
Caboomer@reddit
I can. Went up a weekend ago. Outbound checkpoint. Every car exiting was searched by US border officials, on the US side. Very bizarre.
Its_Nitsua@reddit
Is that not literally routine for border checkpoints?
Laserkweef@reddit
No. Lived within a couple hours of the border my entire life and never been approached on the outbound side. This is not normal, at all.
prodriggs@reddit
The US didnt have outbound checkpoints under biden.... Fascists are going to be fascist.
Its_Nitsua@reddit
I literally provided a source? are we living in an age of misinformation to the point that you won't believe facts because it doesn't support your narrative?
prodriggs@reddit
Your source isnt an example of whats happening now... You should really try reading the things you post....
What facts do I not believe?...
Its_Nitsua@reddit
I’m providing an example that it has been happening well before Trump took office.
Outbound checks have been happening for 50 some odd years, if not longer. It’s literally standard procedure.
prodriggs@reddit
Ohh, so you didnt even bother to read the article you posted.
They weren't occurring on a daily basis. They were used for social occasions like a kidnapping....
Its_Nitsua@reddit
you're literally trolling
prodriggs@reddit
Projection.
Quote the section of your article that says these daily border checks were common place. Since you apparently havent read it/didnt understand it.
Its_Nitsua@reddit
“Border search authority applies equally in the inbound and outbound contexts," said Miezgoda. "CBP Officers are authorized to conduct inspections and searches of all persons, baggage, and other merchandise arriving in or leaving the United States. Outbound border inspections are an important tool for border security and assist in identifying and preventing violations of transnational law."
It's a discretion thing, they choose when to stop people. There is no mandate coming down telling them to stop more people, there's just an influx of people going from the US to Canada and therefore the rate of people being stopped is higher.
You said 'they were used for social occasions like a kidnapping' which is something you just pulled our of your ass hence me saying you're trolling.
Deep_Dub@reddit
Fuck trump and all but…
https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/48010/20230624/u-s-customs-has-been-checking-vehicles-before-they-leave-the-country-here-s-why
prodriggs@reddit
But what?....
Rope_antidepressant@reddit
Lived on the border growing up, crossed nearly weekly for years, u.s side didn't even have a search area setup on outbound.
Amish_Rebellion@reddit
I'm rather close to the border so I pop up at times to go to see friends in Toronto. Ive never been stopped by US officials going into Canada.
I haven't been since this administration so I couldn't tell you now. But its not normal.
brandonwamboldt@reddit
Very few countries have outbound border checkpoints. The normal process would be to arrive at the Canadian border, answer to Canadian border patrol, and be allowed into Canada. Its very concerning that your government may be preparing to stop people (or some groups of people) from leaving, and this would be a precursor to that. Could also be to identify women coming to Canada for abortions, or a host of other things.
Either way, no its not routine, the US hasn't done this before, and its almost certainly the start of something terrible.
Its_Nitsua@reddit
https://www.northcountrypublicradio.org/news/story/48010/20230624/u-s-customs-has-been-checking-vehicles-before-they-leave-the-country-here-s-why
Dangerous_Mix_7037@reddit
No
RhubarbGoldberg@reddit
I'm supposed to drive over to Canada next week and I'm thinking of noping out now. Do you mind sharing abouts where you crossed? Is this happening all across the entire border?
celestialapotheosis@reddit
I crossed at Sweet Grass MT on Wednesday and saw nothing of the sort, was actually the easiest border crossing I’ve ever done. Not to say this isn’t happening, I’m sure it is, just didn’t happen to me a couple days ago.
down_by_the_shore@reddit
The checkpoints are very real. Needing permission to leave seems to be a misunderstanding, at this time at least.
Sufficient-Dinner-27@reddit
No misunderstanding. Be your age.
down_by_the_shore@reddit
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean
MediocreModular@reddit
This seems like someone misunderstanding the questions that are always asked at the border.
skipdog98@reddit
No, these checkpoints were on the USA side of the border at Peace Arch and were being conducted on northbound/exiting vehicles, not vehicles entering the USA. I’ve been using that crossing for over 40y and never ever seen an exit checkpoint.
ritzhi_@reddit
Would it be weird if checkpoint booths were built recently at the south border? They just got finished but they are not in use yet. They are like 300meters before entering Mexico
skipdog98@reddit
Wow. Crazy. TIL. Police state.
No-Squirrel6645@reddit
Going to Canada through Maine and Vermont since the 1990s and I’ve always been questioned leaving or arriving the USA
skipdog98@reddit
So you’ve had to show travel documents and have your vehicle inspected on US soil by US agents to leave the USA? Because these new checkpoints are NB vehicles, on US soil by US agents. The Canadian agents and booths are further north.
No-Squirrel6645@reddit
Yep that’s the case with me. I’m not saying what’s happening elsewhere as described is normal or good or that we should be ok with it. But yeah leaving Vermont or Maine into Canada I’ve definitely been stopped stateside and asked to show documentation and questioned as to my visit into Canada. And then the same thing when I’ve been welcomed to Canada too.
MrTreeWizard@reddit
My wife is from Canada, at the Embassador Bridge in Detroit I ran into an outbound checkpoint only once, but it did happen (this was before Trump). They didn't search my car or anything but they did ask questions and whatnot, so it isn't entirely unheard of.
MediocreModular@reddit
Are you OP? Did you see what agency they were with?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Per the article linked above its CBP
skipdog98@reddit
No but other photos and (extensive, mainstream) Canadian media coverage show CBP vehicles blocking the normal lanes into one lane. There has been EXTENSIVE coverage of this over the past week from CTV (first), Global and CBC. They have interviewed US folks (including mayors in northern WA state and a US immigration attorney) as well as various people who were “checked”. This is NOT the normal northern border experience by any stretch.
prodriggs@reddit
Incorrect. You arent asked any questions by US border patrol when you leave left the US to Canada under Biden.
MediocreModular@reddit
Reading comprehension isn’t for everyone apparently
prodriggs@reddit
You're projecting apparently.
Because you wouldn't honestly assert that it's perfectly normal for the US to be inspecting all outbound US vehicles on a daily basis, if you had actually read about this, right?.... Right?....
MediocreModular@reddit
Ah yes, the classic, “no you” rebuttal. How devastating.
prodriggs@reddit
So you think it's perfectly normal for the US to be inspecting all outbound US vehicles on a daily basis?... Because if you do, you clearly struggle with reading comprehension.
MediocreModular@reddit
Of course I don’t think that. You would know that if you could read. I suggested that it’s possible that this was because someone was confused about the questions that are normally asked by border agents. I never suggested any of the things you’ve accused me of. But I wouldn’t expect an honest and fair treatment on Reddit. I fully expect people to just argue. Since that’s what reddits for. Have fun with your outrage.
prodriggs@reddit
By all means, quote the section that I need to read to prove my statements false. Ill wait.....
Then you didnt bother to read the article..... You dont typically get questioned by US BP when crossing the border into CA.
True. Because you made a vague weasely statement which you immediately ran away from the moment you were challenged.
I find that right wingers do this quite often.
What was the point of your comments then?....
Run away now lil troll.
EndSweet9974@reddit
There is a guy on TikTok handle of PNW Daily that looks to live by the Peace Arch and the CA/WA border crossing who shares live video from the area on the regular. Very low politics/drama, more on the tourism level. He’s shown the checkpoints more than once. So yeah, it’s real.
Lostules@reddit
Have a checkpoint up the road from our home...in the middle of nowhere. Guess the feds can check anywhere within 80 miles of a border.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
I call absolute fucking fear mongering bullshit on this one.
CedartheTree@reddit
I live about 20 minutes south of Blaine, WA. It is not bullshit, it's real.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
That has been happening for years. You're just fear mongering. Tell me, did you get your panties in a bunch when it was happening under Biden?
CedartheTree@reddit
Suck shit. I've lived here my entire life, and go up to Canada at least several times a year. I've never seen anything like this. It wasn't happening under Biden, it didn't happen during Trump's first term, it didn't happen under Obama or Bush. This is new, this is different, this is alarming.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
Fear mongering bullshit. You have your panties in a bunch because the candidate you wasted your vote on and appointed by oligarchs was beat by Trump. Please stop using the word "prepper." You're nothing but fear mongering bullshit actors that throw shit against the wall, hoping something sticks. Your usage of Intel is also highly debatable.
02meepmeep@reddit
I got stopped and searched in 2005 but it was by the Canadian Border Patrol, not the US.
skipdog98@reddit
This is a lie. These exit checkpoints have only been happening at this crossing for the past week.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
Bullshit.
phloyd77@reddit
Are they denying people the ability to leave?
CedartheTree@reddit
I'm not certain. All I know is that there are checkpoints and they are searching people before they even get to the border crossing.
Not_Bernie_Madoff@reddit
I know you said you live there but what have you physically seen that is different?
CedartheTree@reddit
There are checkpoints now before you get to the border crossing. What's being reported is what is happening.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
We really don't give a shit whether you leave. The question is, why would Canada want you?
skipdog98@reddit
Definitely real. Saw it myself on the border livecam. Has been going on for over a week. Not a document check, search of vehicles. Hours long waits to leave the USA before even arriving at the Canadian border.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
Maybe they are checking for illegals being smuggled to Canada. Cartels gotta make their money one way or another.
skipdog98@reddit
Why would US agents care what goes into Canada? Literally 500m from t where the checkpoint is are the Canadian agents whose job it is to actually care what/who goes into Canada.
Ifyouwant67@reddit
Gee, maybe maybe our governments have made deals to help each other out. They've been doing random searches since way before Trump.
skipdog98@reddit
Not at this crossing they haven’t. We (previously before the 51st state BS) used this crossing weekly. We have NEVER encountered an exit CBP checkpoint headed NB.
zw9491@reddit
Random checks, sure, nothing substantiating permission being required
blueskies8484@reddit
It’s half true. As far as we know, no one has been told they can’t leave. But daily checkpoints to leave are happening with car searches, which is causing hours long delays. Checkpoints usually only go up if there is an Amber Alert, a specific BOLO, or a specific concern and are temporary not daily.
Dultsboi@reddit
It’s real. As a Canadian they’ve done at Peace Arch for the past week.
Which is ironic… considering it’s Peace Arch. “May these gates never close”
Patrick1441@reddit
Here is a CBC article about this: https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
bowenmark@reddit
Mayor of Blaine went and had a look, yup outbound checks every four cars or so.
No-Squirrel6645@reddit
Yeah but this isn’t substantiated
huehuehuehuehuuuu@reddit
The Canadian news reporting this says there are check points, and they are checking more, but nothing about not allowing people to leave.
Lazy-Award-790@reddit
A news article was posted with it. CBC is legit news from Canada.
fairmaiden34@reddit
Yes - here's a CBC News article. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
GirlWithWolf@reddit
My dad says everything happening at the southern border is a setup to keep people in not out. I can’t say a lot more but when he speaks it would behoove folks to listen. (I picked my words carefully to drop a hint)
ExcessumCamena@reddit
Oh shit, is your dad a horse who is also a political expert?
doyletyree@reddit
Neigh.
GirlWithWolf@reddit
I’d say expert yes.
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
in a weird, fucked up way it makes me think of companies like palantir have finetuned their AI tech on palestinians in gaza
but what you have is an immobile, walled in populace
the dark irony that that's what will happened to us. palantir & clearview will only work, or works best when the populace is kept in
dyslexic-alien@reddit
Latino here. The wall is double sided.
GirlWithWolf@reddit
My current hood is probably 90% Latino. I love it! There’s a great taco shop and so many of the moms bring out extra tamales and just give them away to whoever wants some. Pandilla keeps everything orderly. Cops are always swarming but it’s fun giving them hell.
Amish_Rebellion@reddit
Holy crap your dad works for Nintendo?
GirlWithWolf@reddit
Hell I wish! Discount on games!
jamminjon66@reddit
Further hint: claim of taking pictures of everyone leaving the US
sinkingduckfloats@reddit
https://www.wired.com/story/cbp-face-recognition-exit-us-border/
jamminjon66@reddit
Great work, thanks for your contribution
GirlWithWolf@reddit
That’s interesting
Dustin_Rx@reddit
I just returned from a weekend trip. Checked our suitcases in the trunk and everything. Asked us if we had any firearms.
Elated_copper22@reddit
Had this happen a few weeks ago at Detroit/Windsor border after driving 21 hours from Florida.
It wasn’t a difficult experience, they were concerned about trafficking of people more than what was in the bags.
beren0073@reddit
Did they think you had people stuffed in your bags?
doyletyree@reddit
Disassembled, of course. Gotta beat those tariffs however you can.
Last-Caterpillar-407@reddit
Trafficking what people, exactly and why are they suddenly concerned when they were not before? It is a big deal. It doesn't have to be difficult to be wrong and a big deal.
They are not concerned about Trafficking. If they were concerned about trafficking there would be no need to look in the bags because they have gotten eyes on all the peope you are with. You aren't looking at this critically enough.
BanzaiTree@reddit
Surely they would never lie about their intent!
Elated_copper22@reddit
Well, I was sort of a space cadet at the time from driving that long, but it was no more unusual than any other interaction I've had with them.
trelane0@reddit
Did they actually open your suitcases?
Dustin_Rx@reddit
Yes
Successful-Try-8506@reddit
"You can check out anytime, but you can never leave ..."
juicysweatsuitz@reddit
sick ass guitar solo
19is_@reddit
Wheee-oooh, wheee-oooh, wah-ow, wah-ow Doo-doodly-doo, doo-doodly-doo, wah-nee, wah-nee Wee-ow, wee-ow, wee-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow Nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow Deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle Wee-nee, wee-nee, wee-nee, wee-nee Wah-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow Braaang, braaang, braaang, braaang Wheee-eee, wheee-eee, wheee-eee, wheee-eee Doo-wee, doo-wee, doo-wee, doo-wee Nyowwwww, nyowwwww, nyowwwww, nyowwwww Wee-oo, wee-oo, wee-oo, weeeeee...
doyletyree@reddit
I read this in his accent.
fluecured@reddit
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MettaVersePeace@reddit
Wede harer guzo
Temporary-Bluejay631@reddit
I want that inscribed on my headstone and nothing else.
stuffitystuff@reddit
"sick ass guitar solo" ?
ElderlyGorilla@reddit
No he wants it to read “sick ass, guitar solo”
moist__owlet@reddit
Sick ass-guitar, solo
MorningPooper4Lyfe@reddit
Sick! Ass-guitar solo!
piponwa@reddit
https://youtu.be/5yuL6PcgSgM?si=DCSXFtQcSk0BzTCm
Temporary-Bluejay631@reddit
In italics.
RumpleDumple@reddit
Weedly weedly waaaah
dyslexic-alien@reddit
Hotel California?, more like hotel USA
cserskine@reddit
Hotel? In this economy? More like hostel 😬😂
squirrel8296@reddit
More like cardboard box under an overpass in the rain.
IDontCondoneViolence@reddit
More like a brown paper bag in a septic tank.
Panda-Cubby@reddit
Ooo...looks at Mr. Fancypants with his cardboard box. Next, you'll be showing off with your blanket and two gloves that are the same color.
panicswing@reddit
Hostel? In this country? More like hostile
19is_@reddit
Wheee-oooh, wheee-oooh, wah-ow, wah-ow Doo-doodly-doo, doo-doodly-doo, wah-nee, wah-nee Wee-ow, wee-ow, wee-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow Nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow, nyow-nyow Deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle, deedle-deedle Wee-nee, wee-nee, wee-nee, wee-nee Wah-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow, wah-ow Braaang, braaang, braaang, braaang Wheee-eee, wheee-eee, wheee-eee, wheee-eee Doo-wee, doo-wee, doo-wee, doo-wee Nyowwwww, nyowwwww, nyowwwww, nyowwwww Wee-oo, wee-oo, wee-oo, weeeeee...
MoreLumenThanLumen@reddit
Soon it'll be before your enter or leave a state.
are-e-el@reddit
This is why I moved heaven and earth to move my family from the South for a blue state before summer's end
doyletyree@reddit
That was you?
I thought my neighbor had just fallen out of bed again.
skipdog98@reddit
Isn’t WA a blue state? These checks are in northern WA
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
These checks are at the Federal Border. CBP has no jurisdiction beyond I think 2 miles from the border.
cyanescens_burn@reddit
The border for that also includes ports, international airports, and I believe coast.
alkbch@reddit
Each international airport is also considered to be a border, so CBP has jurisdiction in large areas,
CCP_Not_CCP@reddit
Note borders include coastal borders. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/border-zone is a good article. 2/3 people live in their jursidiction.
CommunicationTall277@reddit
CBP is pulling kids out of elementary schools.. in the Midwest. Way more than 100 miles from any border. They don’t follow those rules anymore, friend.
ridesouth@reddit
US it is 100 mi from border.
I_madeusay_underwear@reddit
Doesn’t that extend to within a certain radius of international airports, too? I’m not sure, but that’s what I’ve been told
hacksong@reddit
Yep. And any coastline. Or embassy. They can fuck your day up in more of the US than the game wardens can. And game wardens have a VERY wide reach when they need it.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
That's right, 2mi is the boundary for state waters. Thx
skipdog98@reddit
Where they have set it is a few hundred meters (maybe 50-100) south of the international boundary marker. You can see the massive Peace Arch memorial marker in the background. The Canadian border booths are north of the arch.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Thx
Mental-Load7956@reddit
When I lived in Spain in 1963-65 under fascist Franco spot checks required some residents to show documents to Guardia Civil before they could leave their own cities. Not everyone but enough to keep people afraid. Some towns in Texas have attempted to deter abortion-related travel through civil ordinances.
LightningSunflower@reddit
Do you have any advice to share from your time under a fascist regime? Without doxing yourself do mind sharing why you found yourself in that situation? It seems like an important experience to learn from, thank you for sharing!
BreatheIntoTheMic@reddit
Exercise your second amendment rights and have a copy of the constitution on you.
intensely-leftie@reddit
I'm not the original poster, but there are a lot of accounts from people who lived under authoritarian regimes in South America, and they have a very recent memory of how to survive in such a state. I recommend trying to find their accounts as well, since the 1960s was a long time ago and times have changed
Scarecrow_Folk@reddit
US military stationed in Spain during the Cold War would be the most likely reason.
fruderduck@reddit
Of course it would be Texas.
liquidpoopcorn@reddit
think they did this a few days ago with a main crossing used for people that live in the arizona border and cross for their job in Cali farms. don't know if they stopped everyone, but they where checking people crossing both ways.
JennyAnyDot@reddit
That would be a huge mess. I’ve moved but my prior trip to work was Ohio - Indiana - Kentucky. Indiana section of highway had no exits and was about 3 miles long.
dekrypto@reddit
California needs one on the AZ border. Way too many California hating zonies love to use our beaches.
ItsYourMoveBro@reddit
Lake Havasu would like to have a word
TheLesbianTheologian@reddit
how many Californians are actually going to AZ specifically for Lake Havasu? we have our own lakes all over the state, lmao
now, if you want to talk about the Grand Canyon, i feel like that’s probably a better comparison
jessmartyr@reddit
I really hope not they tried to test shutting down interstate travel during Covid and weren’t able to
fireball_jones@reddit
Yeah people forget America is huge. But also we had highway stops after 9/11 so… it wouldn’t be the first time.
gimpwiz@reddit
We have a bunch of checkpoints near the southern border and have had for a long time. Usually they just ask me if I'm a citizen and wave me on, but I've seen people not have such an easy time of it. Somehow it's been found to be constitutional to route the entire interstate through these.
If you take any interstate out of El Paso for example, you'll have one in each direction.
jessmartyr@reddit
I lived in the tri state when 911 happened, I don’t remember ever being stopped. Huge police presence at every border going into the city but never actually stopped.
fireball_jones@reddit
Up in Northern New England we’d get stopped at random points on the highway. Maybe it was just a thing closer to the border.
CrazyQuiltCat@reddit
Well, that’s gonna be fun. You can accidentally drive into the next state in my town. It’s that close.
ONeOfTheNerdHerd@reddit
When I was at Ft. Campbell, one road leaving my neighborhood was TN, the other KY lol
ONeOfTheNerdHerd@reddit
When I was at Ft. Campbell, one road leaving my neighborhood was TN, the other KY lol
gizamo@reddit
Crossing from a Democrat state into a Republican state will require exit and entrance documents...and at least one loyalty oath. Lol.
monos_muertos@reddit
Real ID's only. Papers please.
Aurora1717@reddit
Especially if you are pregnant and trying not to be.
LupusDeiAngelica@reddit
Yes. They will check the color of your skin, if you're pregnant or not and eventually check your phones to see if you're saying anything about their Dear (senile) Leader.
Plenty-Detective-784@reddit
My exact thoughts
MonarchMagnetic@reddit
I wonder if they ban cruise ships or chartered boats. Seems like a way to circumvent these issues.
chillestpill@reddit
Probably not just looking for those who are “self-deporting”- descriptions here sound like they’re searching for hidden assets as much as anything else (“behind the glovebox”, etc).
Making sure anyone who can get out can’t bring anything with them?🤔
LadyBlue347@reddit
I think they want to see if it looks like you’re running. If you say you’re just crossing the border for a day trip, but they find a hidden cash stash, gun and suitcase, they’re gonna have questions.
LadyBlue347@reddit
They want to make us Americans afraid to run, and the immigrants who are under threat too.
SplitDry2063@reddit
I hope all the MAGA’s are proud of themselves for destroying the country because, and this is the only reason, they are afraid of the LBGTQ community, the most peaceful people on the planet. Want to protect you children, start going after white Republican men, they are the ones going after kids.
Correct_Demand_4256@reddit
who is intentionally trying to get into Canada anyways?
Sabre_One@reddit
Washington resident here.
I would like to clarify that you don't need "permission". It's up to Canada border control if they want to allow you in. These checkpoints are before the entries, so it would be odd for them to turn you around when both directions are still US territory.
It would also be odd for them to detain or force a Canadian visitor to turn around, as again. Border Patrol has already approved entry at the actual border.
My personal take is that this is political. Rather, it's Border Patrol purposely trying to strain its own department to justify Trump's soon-to-be request for more funding for them. Or simply punishing WA because we are WA.
badasimo@reddit
With tariffs there will be an increase in smuggling as well
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Ty.
IH8N8@reddit
Hmmm seems they are trying to normalize this. It starts at the border how long before this spreads?
Jackson88877@reddit
This will tell you a lot about the border and the law.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/06/13/what-is-usa-border-enforcement-zone/
eyelessgame@reddit
When Project 2025 said it was going to "seal the border", a seal works both ways.
Jackson88877@reddit
Locks moisture in, keeps freshness out.
Rx4986@reddit
This is what dictatorships do. You can never leave. Cubas refugees throw themselves at sea on makeshift rafts, North Koreans build tunnels…
This is glimpses of dictatorship behavior.
rickee_martin@reddit
I was telling my wife the other day. I don’t feel like they are beefing up border security around the country to keep people out. They ultimately want to keep us in.
Rx4986@reddit
This is a whole process that right now feels like it’s being enacted on hyperdrive. At some point, they’ll rally behind restricting gun ownership/ access to bullets. Every dictatorship started by disarming their people.
Next will be “Community advisors”, people that snitch on their neighbors about their perceived government slights, like a nefarious HOA which creates an environment where no one can be trusted “Divide and conquer”.
Then at schools kids will be asked what their parents say about the leader or govt at home behind closed doors.
Then food ration cards. You work for the government (whether legit or snitch) and get more rations.
No one can leave unless approved.
Sounds like a fiction dystopia, it’s not. This has and is happening in dictatorships around the world.
RangerKitchen3588@reddit
And when trump or one of his ilk are the ones to propose gun restrictions due to the "safety of his constituents" they'll suck it down like high fructose corn syrup. I didnt think my "you can have em one bullet at a time" philosophy was gonna be tested by the "pro gun" party. But we shall see.
cashewclues@reddit
Your second sentence is what I have been worried about and I’m as anti-gun as they come. But this is new territory. I feel that I need to hurry and exercise my 2a rights before I can’t.
Rx4986@reddit
A large majority of Americans are armed. But guns are useless without bullets. I think they’ll attack this and blame it on a “foreign enemy”.
RigatoniPasta@reddit
The net is closing. We are fucked.
Cow_Man42@reddit
This has been a thing for at least 15 years. In 08 I drove the AlCan and we got stopped in ND on the US side by CBP as we were entering Canada and had our whole truck tossed. They separated me and my buddy into little rooms and proceeded to closely inspect our persons while wearing blue gloves......Neither he or I had any criminal history worse than a speeding ticket. They held us for a few hours and just threw all our shit out on the ground.....We are US citizens and we were still in the US and we were basically violated by US border guards....I have never looked at Government agents the same ever since.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Explain Violated Please!
Cow_Man42@reddit
Held against your will with the threat of violence while two men run their hands over every inch of your body including under your balls and your ass crack. I felt pretty violated. Apparently crossing a border or being within 100 miles of said border is probable cause in this country since 9/11.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Were you born here. Because the way you phrase things. It's like you don't consider it your country.
Cow_Man42@reddit
I was born in MI and my buddy was born in GA......But yea that matters. When your government starts trampling your rights and ignoring the Constitution, you need to start questioning your government......Turns out your country isn't your government.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
I agree with you. I'm probably not as much of an activist as you are. I don't like how weak and divided the Democrat Party has become. Some average people think it's great. It's not good at all. One party rule is when some take advantage.
Cow_Man42@reddit
I am no activist. Nor do I have a party affiliation. I just have been abused by the feds and thought people should know that they have been doing this shit for a long time now.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Oh, I understand.
Animal__Mother_@reddit
And you guys still cling to the myth that you’re the most free nation on earth.
Cow_Man42@reddit
I was disabused of that fantasy the first time I traveled overseas. Most americans don't even have passports so it is easy to feed them that bullshit.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
This thread is filled with pissed off activist Canadians. Your heads have been fucked up for decades.
Relative_Formal8976@reddit
Right now this is them introducing something that they already do at airports. Its to catch people overstaying visas, or refugees etc. They are not having luck making the numbers they thought they were going get through their normal methods. So now this them scraping up everything they can.
piponwa@reddit
Except it's people leaving so what's the point? They're leaving, if they come back they can just refuse entry then. But why would they want to catch people to put them in jail and later deport them if they'll already be out of country ten minutes later when they cross into Canada?
PM_Me_Macaroni_plz@reddit
For statistics and Bragging purposes
Present-Perception77@reddit
I think they’re just trying to scare people and hurt Canadian tourism. Canadians have stopped coming to the US for obvious reasons. But a lot of US people still go to Canada. A lot of people go to Canada just for medical care. They are trying to trap us in the US with fear.
ShootFishBarrel@reddit
If they let someone cross who is overstaying a visa, they can’t arrest them and inflate Trump’s immigration-related numbers.
This is all about one bloated man with a historically, record-shatteringly fragile ego.
Loyal-Opposition-USA@reddit
It will count towards the “big number of aliens deported”. Orange Menace has his goon squad focused on numbers and nothing else. Start with people in jails and prisons, move on to people with families and full time jobs, grab up easy wins like people at border checkpoints.
Woke_TWC@reddit
Not how immigration works, you can’t just overstay your visa and then say , i was already heading out
Careful_Ad8933@reddit
That's what a recent executive order does. Even offering to pay immigrants for their plane tickets and give them $1000 bonus when they leave.
Woke_TWC@reddit
One act is to deter people from overstaying, the other is to encourage people who have already overstayed to leave.
They are different things.
For the record I am not American just talking about common sense here.
As someone with a shit passport and going through strict immigration mess wherever you go. Maybe it is more apparent to me than a person in first world country used to open borders
truthputer@reddit
This may be driven by the private prison industrial complex. The apparatus of fascism has to justify it's own existence.
gluttonousvam@reddit
Yeah, to sell them to private prisons or foreign death camps
space_age_stuff@reddit
Bingo. Almost every policy implemented so far definitely correlates with fascist regimes, but at the same time it also correlates with cracking down on immigration as much as possible to boost numbers. The people getting deported are usually legal immigrants with temporary status of some kind.
This is identical to how DOGE didn’t lay off a bunch of “bureaucratic money-sucks”, they just laid off all the contractors and temp workers that they could legally fire immediately. This allowed them to massively cut down staff and have data that showed “waste” being cut down, when in actuality they can’t downsize the government immediately because it’s not actually inefficient like they claim it is.
RebornSoul867530_of1@reddit
I believe this was always the case
tnargmonroe@reddit
https://www.allpointbulletin.com/stories/outbound-inspections-back-up-border-traffic,38335
Zipper-is-awesome@reddit
My husband drives semis full of flour to Canada. Not bags of flour, flour in bulk. Last week he had no problems, but he has had his bunk area searched before, just not recently. It is easier to leave than come back in, because it seems like whatever mood CBP is in is how much trouble they give you.
BobcatOk7492@reddit
Gotta find that Devils lettuce!!!!! USA< USA , USA !!!!
twstdbydsn@reddit
I’m flying to Montreal in August for my birthday. This should be interesting to read about the next few months.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Have a good trip
No_Biscotti_7258@reddit
I literally just went to Canada in back with zero resistance. Received more questioning from Canadian border agents
Rand_alThoor@reddit
exit restrictions reminds me far too much of DDR/East Germany. I didn't have this on my 2025 bingo card!
BanzaiTree@reddit
RETURN TO YOUR HOMES. THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR CONCERN.
dashingsauce@reddit
I suspect that this and all of the other border security measures (both in & out) being implemented now are not just precautionary.
Feels like the administration is aware of an existing, specific threat or vulnerability that has already taken root in the US and this is a containment strategy rather than prevention strategy.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
They have been implementing this over the past 10 years. It's not new.
dashingsauce@reddit
Yeah, but there’s a sense of urgency now. As if we didn’t move fast enough to prevent the problem, so now we’re rushing to contain it.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Yeah, I know. A lot of gamesmanship going on. I hate having to deal with that.
dashingsauce@reddit
Agreed… the only thing you can do is “be ready”
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
Canada is really pissed at us. They need more sunshine and daylight. Haha.
MaxM0o@reddit
This is about rounding up immigrants trying to flee the country. They are working closely with for-profit prison companies, rounding up (legal) immigrants, and throwing them in privately owned ICE prisons.
deftware@reddit
Source? That sounds more expensive than just deporting them.
MaxM0o@reddit
Google it. There's articles about it in the New York times. Even local papers in states are reporting on the insane contract deals private prisons are getting to hold immigrants. In Idaho one company just got a billion dollar contract. You really don't think they could have used a billion tax payer dollars towards better things in Idaho?
"Private immigration detention has been used since the early 1980s, and today, nearly 90% of ICE detainees are held in facilities operated by private companies. CoreCivic and GEO Group are the dominant players, but dozens of other for-profit companies help operate facilities nationwide."
pooinmypants1@reddit
And republicans thought Handmaid’s Tale was fiction 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
It was a prophecy.
WouldSmashMillicent@reddit
wait until you read the sequel, Parable of the Sower
wh4teversclever@reddit
Parable of the talents gets real fucked
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
Fuck me.. they get WORSE?
Damn
wh4teversclever@reddit
😬 yeah, it took me longer to get through parable of the talents because it’s rough (not the writing, which is great.) it’s a lot to handle.
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
Is there a third book?
imrightontopthatrose@reddit
No, just the two, but so completely fucked.
cashewclues@reddit
By Octavia Bulter
Specialist_Fault8380@reddit
Different authors! Margaret Atwood wrote Handmaid’s Tale and the also terrifying and excellent Oryx & Crake trilogy.
Octavia Butler wrote Parables :) also terrifying and excellent.
Both authors said they were inspired by history and current events, essentially following political and cultural and environmental trends until their logical conclusion if nothing changed.
WhiteClawandDraw@reddit
Parable of the Sower gave me panic attacks because I was reading it during the LA fires and it was like I was experiencing the prequel while reading the future.
Fickle-Goose7379@reddit
I had to stop reading that, it was too prescient. Plus it had dates for this year & creeped me out.
ocstomias@reddit
And it’s sequel “Parable of the Talents”
massiveattach@reddit
vice versa
OlyNoCulture@reddit
Nothing in Handmaid’s Tale is new, it’s just “what if an oppressive theocracy happened to privileged and mostly white westerners?” I still love the show but I try not to forget that the oppression and abuse isn’t fiction in other parts of the world.
TheAlphaKiller17@reddit
I'm so, so, so fucking glad I just got my tubes removed a few weeks ago. It may have been the best decision I've ever made.
BicycleNo69420@reddit
Oh my God agreed. Got sterilized 3 years ago and never have regretted it.
SurpriseHamburgler@reddit
Did you know it’s historical fiction, to a point? The author has stated she pulled all major occurrences and societal function/disfunction directly from prior events in history. Very much a tapestry woven, to portend our folly - if you’re into that sort of thing.
GIGGLES708@reddit
Agreed. Handmaidens Tale has a LOT of slavery details woven in.
cashewclues@reddit
A LOT. So much so I couldn’t finish watching it. It was also always pissing me off that people didn’t know or care about that fact.
emseefely@reddit
You need not look far in other countries history too. Guess we will see first hand.
SurpriseHamburgler@reddit
Correct, at the risk of misquoting I believe she even said - largely from the 20th century.
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
Under HIS eye.
💀
Unique-Sock3366@reddit
It’s GOP and MAGAt pornography.
griphookk@reddit
It’s not prophecy, it’s history. Every major thing that happens in the books is something that has really happened somewhere to women.
I feel like people tend to forget how extremely recent it is for even some women to have basic rights.
Sunnyjim333@reddit
Instruction book.
dbascooby@reddit
I still plan on going to Niagara Falls on the Canadian side later this summer. Screw them.
Additional_Teacher45@reddit
My question is going to be what do they do if someone runs one of their checkpoints?
They have no jurisdiction once someone crosses the border to the Canada customs station, and Canadian border control decides if someone can cross, not US border control.
Dizzy-Job-2322@reddit
So you want to get shot and killed running away / fleeing from American Law Enforcement? Then you will encourage others like you did.
Do you know how dumb you sound. They have every right to pull you over and detain you if they have probable cause. If you run from them they will stop you at the border. One way or another.
QueerTree@reddit
Friends recently relocated (back) to Canada, coming to the states today described exact scene. Peace Arch.
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
can you provide any extra details?
QueerTree@reddit
Just that they had a quick check and move through like usual going INTO the US but the lines going OUT were long and they saw a few cars pulled over and completely opened up.
diego5377@reddit
Seeing the videos on TikTok and twitter and it’s definitely dystopian af
colbitronic@reddit
I live on the border in the Blaine wa. 10 mins from peace arch crossing. They've always stopped us and questioned why we were going into Canada. It's a bit more ramped up now, but I'm still seeing people with the Nexus pass going through without being stopped. You have to go through the border to get to point Robert's. Which is part of the US. I'm also still seeing Canadians coming over as well. Not as many as before but some.
A11Handz0nDeck@reddit
Needed passports to enter Canada since George W Bush.
With a quick check I found this article from 2023: https://www.afar.com/magazine/do-you-need-a-passport-to-go-to-canada
EntertainerExtreme@reddit
Outbound checkpoints have been a thing for years on the US Mexico border. It started under Obama.
deftware@reddit
Meanwhile, China's government has been outright preventing its citizens from having the ability to even acquire a passport.
cadeycaterpillar@reddit
They’re trying to catch people who are self deporting so they can hand them over to ICE. Gotta boost those numbers for the regime.
Sufficient-Dinner-27@reddit
I don't think they're looking for fleeing immigrants. This is muscle flexing against US citizens; don't complain, don't protest. A roadmap to martial law.
lookingtobewhatibe@reddit
If you ever find yourself along the U.S. Mexico border take a look at the razor wire up top. Notice how it’s angled. That’s on purpose.
Helllo_Man@reddit
The moment we started talking about “building a wall” I said “you mean to keep Americans in?”
Everyone laughed back then or rolled their eyes. They laughed up till about a few months ago. Now they go quiet.
Shit is fucked up.
flowerchildmime@reddit
I haven’t been. Can you explain.
lookingtobewhatibe@reddit
The razor wire is angled towards the US making it harder to over the fence OUT of the United States. The design is actually harder to escape into Mexico than to leave it.
Granted it’s the same design on the other side of the Rio Grande. So take that as you will.
I also can’t confirm this is the design for the entirety of the southern border, as different contractors surely make their sections differently from each other, but can say I’ve seen this with my own eyes along some serious points of entry.
Add to it the whole thing about the 100 mile no constitution zone in regards to the border and the actions of this current administration it’s not really hyperbolic to think there isn’t a contingency to keep us from leaving.
PhuqBeachesGitMonee@reddit
Don’t a lot of border crossings go both ways? Like if you’re in the business of moving things, whether it’s people or narcotics.
South-Lab-3991@reddit
Here’s a picture I took of the Texas side of the border back in February
cjeffers6814@reddit
The line of shipping containers is fucking hilarious and that you get to walk on a fence not grating. Like this is the most trailer park half asses shit I’ve seen. The fact these guys are standing elevated looking into the sun with zero cover balls hanging in the fucking wind. What a fucking joke.
Honest-Caregiver8938@reddit
i can't tell direction. are there any other pics
South-Lab-3991@reddit
And here’s a picture I took from the Coahuila side of the border. Now tell me which town looks like a dystopian hellhole and which one looks like a pretty nice place to spend an afternoon?
Aert_is_Life@reddit
They are looking for undocumented migrants who are trying to self deport so they can lock them up instead of letting them leave.
overitallofittoo@reddit
They want to send them to El Salvador not Canada
Aert_is_Life@reddit
Exactly. Stop them before they can get out of the country. That is why immigrants should not register to self deport
AwesomeToadUltimate@reddit
Why do they not want "undesirables" to flee to Canada/Mexico? Doesn't that just accomplish the same thing as kidnapping them to send them to ICE facility/El Salvador?
YourMemeExpert@reddit
Remember that Trump ran on having the largest mass deportation in US history. Capturing fleeing immigrants and sending them to El Salvador is better for his metrics than letting them flee on their own.
"Under my administration we have caught and deported a record amount of illegal criminals" instead of "We have paid the illegal criminals to leave'
truthputer@reddit
Prison industrial complex. They get money per detainee. They want to maximize detentions, who cares if it's legal or makes logical sense.
Aert_is_Life@reddit
Well. Not quite. Letting people escape to another country isn't evil enough.
MaracujaBarracuda@reddit
A student at Columbia University who heard ICE was looking for her fled to Canada before they could find her.
https://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2025/03/25/columbia-doctoral-candidate-ranjani-srinivasan-forced-to-flee-united-states-following-threats-from-ice-she-writes-in-statement/
NorthRoseGold@reddit
Good for her
Aert_is_Life@reddit
Good. These goons are horrible
Front_Farmer345@reddit
It’s almost like you’ve accidentally put a dictator in charge of a facist regime
Responsible-Snow2823@reddit
What AI says—-
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) conducts exit checks on vehicles heading into Canada for several key reasons, all grounded in legal authority and national security priorities.
Legal Authority for Exit Checks
CBP’s authority to inspect outbound traffic is established under U.S. law, specifically 19 U.S. Code § 1629, which permits inspections and preclearance in foreign countries. This statute allows U.S. customs officers to conduct inspections of vehicles and individuals departing the United States to ensure compliance with export laws and regulations. Such inspections are part of CBP’s broader mandate to enforce customs and immigration laws at the nation’s borders. 
Objectives of Outbound Inspections
CBP’s outbound inspections serve multiple purposes: • Preventing Illegal Exports: Ensuring that prohibited or controlled items, such as firearms, drugs, or large sums of unreported currency, are not illegally exported from the United States. • National Security: Identifying individuals who may pose a threat to national security, including fugitives attempting to flee the country.  • Immigration Enforcement: Tracking self-deportations and verifying that individuals who are required to leave the U.S. have indeed departed. 
For instance, during the Memorial Day weekend in May 2023, CBP agents conducted outbound inspections at border crossings in Ogdensburg and Massena, New York. They checked passports, vehicle registrations, and inspected vehicle trunks, emphasizing that such actions are legal and serve to enforce export laws and national security measures. 
Implementation of Biometric Exit Systems
CBP is also working on implementing a facial recognition system to photograph and log all individuals exiting the United States by vehicle at border crossings. This initiative aims to mirror current procedures for inbound travelers, where photographs are matched with travel documents like passports and visas. The system could be used to track self-deportations—individuals voluntarily leaving the U.S.—a practice strongly encouraged by the Trump administration. 
Coordination with Canadian Authorities
While the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) does not conduct physical inspections of vehicles leaving Canada, it collaborates with U.S. authorities by sharing biographic entry information. When a person travels to the United States at a land border crossing, Canada receives their biographic entry information from U.S. authorities. This information is used to create a Canadian exit record, enhancing border security by providing a complete travel history.  
In summary, U.S. Customs and Border Protection conducts exit checks on traffic headed into Canada to enforce export laws, enhance national security, and ensure compliance with immigration regulations. These measures are legally authorized and are part of broader efforts to secure the nation’s borders.
JasonBourne1965@reddit
I have driven from Seattle to Vancouver many, many times, and have been stopped/inspected many times - - and I'm a legit, clean-cut white businessman.
klutzikaze@reddit
I wonder if this is an attempt to catch immigrants trying to flee to Canada?
porksword283@reddit
I crossed over in Idaho today. no checkpoints, no issues.
Timely-Mind7244@reddit
I live near Peace Arch crossing, i used truck route going north into Canada the last 2 weekends, going in on Friday, 2 fridays ago at 5ish and US patrol men were having all the vehicles pop their trunks in front my car, but i guess I am a white blonde, also havin my 2 kids in the car and they just waived me thru, no searching.
And this Friday right after midnight, they weren't present at all.
When I came back in on thus Saturday, the US was poping trunks coming back in, not mine, but others around me of course 🙃
Codicus1212@reddit
I’ve been saying we were being boxed in ever since that first “negotiation” with Mexico and Canada where they each had to strengthen their own borders. They both agreed a little -too- readily. Like they agreed it was a good idea.
Something doesn’t sit right with me. Obviously, they’re not worried about the one guy in Canada who smuggles a ziploc bag of drugs in every year. And while the crackdown on the southern border makes more sense, it’s not going to stop drugs from coming in. If they can’t get people to drive them through they’ll just hire the Barry Whites of the world to do it. And in the mean time it will just drive illegal drug prices higher. The demand is there. We all know what happens if there is a shortage in supply.
More to the point though, the somewhat global rise of authoritarian governments, the crackdowns on civil liberties, the return to mercantilism vs free trade… the govt. wanting to land grab Canada and Greenland (both northern countries that will likely last longer in a climate catastrophe)… the powers that be are going out of their way to prepare for massive unrest. And I don’t buy the argument that they’re just grabbing power. They already have power. They are using their power to prepare for something most of us are clueless about.
The crazy thing is, it makes sense from a “not pissing off your neighbors” perspective. Call up Trudeau and Sheinbaum, say “Hey, it wouldn’t be a bad idea for you to beef up your border security quite a bit. We expect you’ll need to sooner or later, once people wise up to what’s really going on here. Better to do it now so you’re not overwhelmed by people fleeing.”
dashingsauce@reddit
Thank you. Someone said it.
The “oligarchs want to tank the economy and grab all the power” argument is simultaneously wrong and dangerous. As you said, they already have power so the incentives don’t line up.
I think the US admin has identified a specific threat or vulnerability that’s already rooted in the country. This is containment & mitigation. No idea what it is, but I assume we have many sleepers.
Besides that, we are proactively collapsing the global climate. That’s important backstory—the geopolitical instability that is about to ensue from migration is precisely what we would need this level of border security to manage.
We went from already-committed-to-X-warming-but-lets-pretend-its-fine narrative to ditching the climate accord globally and laying on the gas (literally and figuratively) within ~3 months.
We’ve effectively set up a race condition where the only way out alive is to produce enough energy independently to later brute-force climate control.
Classic judo strategy.
mykehawksaverage@reddit
It's an outbound border search and they can basically search everything. It's perfectly legal and has been around long before trump.
MediocreModular@reddit
They’ve always asked you the reason for crossing the border. How is this new?
SorryImNotOnReddit@reddit
it’s new because these are manned checkpoint BEFORE entering or crossing the canadian side of the Port of Entry. Before you physically approach the Canada Land Border crossing.
MediocreModular@reddit
Okay that’s the claim. Can you share any evidence?
lameuniqueusername@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
HybridVigor@reddit
Who asked the questions? US LEOs, or Canadian border agents? The latter makes sense, the former not so much. I've only driven through the southern border, and no one from either the US or Mexico asked any questions on the way south.
skipdog98@reddit
This checkpoint is on US soil and by US CBP agents NOT Canadian agents.
HybridVigor@reddit
Thanks. That definitely is weird. I've done a lot of international travel (just not to Canada yet, unfortunately) and US agents have never asked me why I was leaving.
MediocreModular@reddit
Canadian border agents. The post is saying that the US is asking. What vague nonsense is that. Where are the photos, who are the agents, what agency?
Hold my beer while I go tweet something random and have a bunch of gullible redditors lose their minds.
skipdog98@reddit
This is today. US side of the Peach Arch border. The US CBP buildings on either side of the I-5 with US CBP funnelling traffic into one NB lane. Has been for the past week
skipdog98@reddit
Last week
SmashSE1@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
MediocreModular@reddit
Thanks
ZliftBliftDlift@reddit
What did you look up?
fasterthanpligth@reddit
When you leave you're asked questions by Canadian agents. Now American agents supposedly set up checkpoints prior to that to ask their own questions and prevent people leaving, allegedly by this tweet.
MediocreModular@reddit
That appears to be the claim. Let’s get more information shall we?
ZliftBliftDlift@reddit
It's very weird that the US is talking to people before they enter Canada. I've crossed hundreds of times and you talk to the Canadians on the way in and Americans on the way out.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Asking more about permission to leave part.
MediocreModular@reddit
Right. Any sort of evidence that this is happening is a prerequisite to believing anything about it.
The US is asking? What does that mean? What agency? Where are they? Is there a check point? Where are the photos or videos? Some random tweet is a claim. We now need evidence to warrant belief that the claim is true.
skipdog98@reddit
I have photos from the border webcams last week taken every hour-ish. Because I was completely shocked. Been using that crossing for 4decades and never ever witnessed that. The US agents funnelled four lanes into one. On the US side.
MediocreModular@reddit
Thank you
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Thanks for helping me to articulate the questions. I didn’t realize questions were frowned upon in the sub.
MediocreModular@reddit
You’re being sensitive about this? What’s the question you need help articulating?
Zacisblack@reddit
I don't think you're asking enough questions.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Having a question to seek exactly what you’re saying is not reflective of my beliefs. You’re incorrect.
MediocreModular@reddit
Wait are you talking about the statement you made that was punctuated with a period?
What about the permission to leave part are you asking about?
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Do you think I posted the reel? My question is in the title and text I put below the picture.
skipdog98@reddit
This is NOT a stop at the Canadian border and NOT anything involving Canadian CBSA agents. This is a checkpoint on US soil conducted by US CBP agents on outbound/northbound/exiting vehicles. They were not just asking for documents (bad enough) but inspecting vehicles and RVs
no____thisispatrick@reddit
They ask at the border.
So, crossing into Canada from the US, you are speaking with Canadian Border Patrol. On the way back in, US Border patrol.
This makes it sound like a stop in the US before you hit the actual border. Big difference.
When you cross, you aren't asking permission to leave the US, you are asking permission to enter Canada.
If we aren't allowed to freely leave, are we free?
MediocreModular@reddit
Correct. These are all verifiable facts.
What has not been verified are the vague claims of some random Twitter user.
no____thisispatrick@reddit
Right, I agree this post isn't verification.
You stated they have always checked and asked how this was new.
I was pointing out how this would, in fact, be new.
tumericschmumeric@reddit
That’s what they are saying, it’s not Canada screening before entering Canada, it’s US border patrol screening before you leave the US
no____thisispatrick@reddit
That's what I was trying to explain also, in too many words lol
DEverett0913@reddit
This would be all over everything if it were true. Even conservatives would be up in arms over this.
lameuniqueusername@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
bowenmark@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
Hairy-Ad-6687@reddit
Yep, this Canadian article states that U.S. Border Control are doing outbound stops/searches. There’s zero mention of any denial to depart- it mostly talks about them searching people’s cars on their way to Canada.
DEverett0913@reddit
Damn, I stand corrected
Annual-Camera-872@reddit
Conservatives support this
explorer925@reddit
You would be surprised. I'm calling it, there will come a day when the 2nd amendment is slowly pulled away from people who are deemed a threat to the regime. Conservatives won't say a word.
tumericschmumeric@reddit
Oh for sure 100%, they won’t say shit so long as the narrative they are supposed to comply with says not to. To a point, even when they become the victims they justify it as “doing their patriotic duty.” You are already seeing it with this whole 2 dolls vs 30 dolls wordtrack. They are masters of self deception.
Cumulonimbus_2025@reddit
because they think they won’t be affected.
StanKubica2@reddit
I just went to Canada yesterday, 5/10, and there were NO CHECKPOINTS. Sadly, there were no wait times because it seems not a lot of people are going back and forth. I don’t know who is saying this but in my experience it isn’t true.
pilfererofgoats@reddit
Oh jeez im sorry this is happening.
Hewyhew82@reddit
We forgive you pilfererofgoats
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
The goats dont though
PrettyOrk@reddit
it's okay it's not your fault
ItsYourMoveBro@reddit
How do you know?
grummanae@reddit
Standard practice of random checks
No-Atmosphere-2528@reddit
I mean, Trump loves Kim jong Un and North Korea really limits who and what can leave the country. I’ve been waiting for this since his first term. Republicans are dangerous and Trump is what they’ve wanted all along.
MostNet6719@reddit
HHS has authority within 100 miles of the border plus within 100 miles of any international airport. If you map that out it’s basically 100 percent of the country
No_Concentrate_9405@reddit
Anything like this happening at airports?
WyndWoman@reddit
Who the hell gives the permission? What would be illegal to take into Canada (drugs obviously the exception)? WTF?
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Produce such as apples are illegal to cross the border with
WyndWoman@reddit
But the Canadian side would stop that, not on the US side.
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
Yeah for sure. Your point is a good one and my reply was me being obtuse, though not intentionally.
I read your question very simplistically and literally. “What would be illegal to take into Canada” without inferring from the context that you meant “what would be illegal per US law to leave the country with”. I was a bit thick in the head and I apologize.
And to honor your question, I have no idea what it would be illegal to leave the country with other than things that are illegally trafficked, such as drugs, humans, wildlife and the like.
WyndWoman@reddit
No worries 👍
But that's some chit, we can't leave the country now?
HappyAnimalCracker@reddit
I haven’t yet seen any reports of anyone not being allowed to cross following one of these stops but I’m really only hearing about them now. Like you, I do wonder what they’re all about.
GaiusJocundus@reddit
I predicted this
Brad_dawg@reddit
Funny enough the border crossing just south of Rossland, BC already had this. My friend and I were headed up to revelstoke for a mnt biking trip and got the full shakedown at the border. They pulled the van apart and we had to sit in a holding cell while they did it. We were riding clean, but apparently there was an EDM festival that same weekend which is why they were in search mode. Anyways, long story short we were really surprised to learn that it was the US border patrol searching us on our way out as we initially thought it was the Canadians. However, once through the us border The Canadians welcomed us with open arms and after a two minute check of our passports let us through.
AtomicGirlRocks@reddit
The Trump regime is knowingly sending people into a country that capture migrants and imprisons and enslaves them.
https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/migrant-slave-trade-libya
travel_r0cks@reddit
5/11- I drove through both this weekend and nothing like this occurred. Might be spot checks?
Sendit24_7@reddit
Just as a data point, my wife flew from Charlotte to Missouri today and they were doing “random checks” in both the Pre-Check line and at the gate. I have literally never in my life seen them swab phones and fingers after security
sushishibe@reddit
Maybe if you guys have another election. Vote for the party that isn’t aligned with fascism.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
I definitely didn’t vote for Trump.
sushishibe@reddit
Good. Your one vote definitely made a huge difference in your countrymen’s choice to either not vote or vote Republican.
When I made this comment. I was referring to all Americans. Not only you.
MaresATX@reddit
Seems related to tariffs. This is nothing new for the CBP and when it was known simply as U. S. Customs Service. There has always been outbound checkpoints set up to prevent the smuggling of goods to get around tariffs. Even before NAFTA.
outworlder@reddit
A whole lot of rumors in this thread. I've also heard people saying that they are doing this to prevent women from seeking abortions, but that doesn't pass the sniff test. California, Oregon and Washington are all abortion friendly and they will provide care for non residents, often at no cost. Why would someone have to cross into Canada?
The US has also never prevented people from self deporting. They love that. Even talking about offering money and plane tickets. Why would they make it harder, and search cars and whatever? If it's numbers they want, that's easy to get.
The more likely explanation is that these are targeted checkpoints looking for someone or something (like drug trafficking). That's not new.
Until we get reports otherwise, it's a stretch to assume they are trying to prevent people from escaping to Canada. Besides, you can still fly, or cross elsewhere in the border.
IamBob0226@reddit
Like to see what the other two sides of the story are.
ThiccWurm@reddit
I visited Vancouver last fall, I was stopped at a checkpoint right before crossing into Canada. They tried asking me what I was doing, I told them that's none of their businesses, they asked for an ID, they ran it and warned me about leaving my gun behind. I told them that I flew in from KC to Seattle so I didn't even have it with me. Sure enough, Canadian border stopped us and tried to look for them but they didn't exist in my vehicle. Anyways they stop people at the border before and after all the time.
amalgamas@reddit
Wait what?
sigrid2@reddit
I don’t know my brother went to Mexico to get his teeth done couple weeks ago and they didn’t ask for any sort of id ether way In and out. And the dentist wrote scrips for anything you wanted
4mygirljs@reddit
I only remember one other time in recent history that Americans were essentially locked in….
NoBite7802@reddit
lol, hey Comrade take your four dot ellipses back to Russia!
ItsYourMoveBro@reddit
I much prefer four to two, if I'm being honest.
NoBite7802@reddit
Non American detected.
igloohavoc@reddit
When was that? Oh…Japanese Internment Camps.
4mygirljs@reddit
Covid
daughter_of_swords@reddit
Okay but the kind of funny thing is that, at least back in the 2000's when I lived there, police checkpoints were really routine in British Columbia. I think they were basically just checking for drunk drivers, but I thought at the time that Americans would think police checkpoints like that were very problematic. This is different than border checks, of course.
They have to be trying to catch people who are living here undocumented, right? For whatever reason they would rather arrest people than just allow them to leave ("self-deport").
TiredMan123@reddit
They do this when you’re leaving California too. Sometimes it’s border patrol setting up checkpoints for illegal immigration sometimes it’s checking for taking specific items out of the state like agriculture checkpoints.
ATFGunr@reddit
Border guards are also taking photos on the US side of the north bound travellers. Weird, right?
HeyBudGotAnyBud@reddit
I’ve seen Canadian checkpoints before leaving Canada too
lizziewizzieRN@reddit
Omg, get over yourselves. Everything is not the end of the world.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Thank goodness it’s not the end of the world. Sometimes I question the sanity of others too.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
CorporateCoolZone@reddit
Went to Canada yesterday. Crossed from NY into Ontario. Was not stopped or questioned by anyone until I spoke to Canadian border patrol at thw actual border. Same as every other time I've ever crossed. No issue returning either. Not saying this isn't happening elsewhere, but it's not happening everywhere.
dlauer3659@reddit
This is not happening in Michigan.. maybe else where. There is no issue crossing the border and reentering
Tpas2023@reddit
They are looking for guns, drugs, illegal or criminal people… it’s adding 2-3 hours to the process
Fun_Possibility_4566@reddit
we need permission to leave?
Unique-Sock3366@reddit
My husband has been talking more and more about leaving.
Damn. We’re likely already too late.
BigJSunshine@reddit
The. FUCK
Unique-Sock3366@reddit
The fuck is right.
JagBak73@reddit
An article that lends more insight into what is happening.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
Thigmotropism2@reddit
As of at least October, they’ve added a second security checkpoint for flights arriving from overseas. Previously, you went through security…came in, went through customs…and then on to your connection. There is now a SECOND security checkpoint, as if you picked up contraband on the plane. Stung me twice.
MediocreModular@reddit
Now you must be trolling me. My comment was posted before anyone shared an article with me. The post is a screenshot of a Twitter post. I won’t apologize for being skeptical. I doubt you will apologize for being obtuse and accusatory. Let’s move on with our lives.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Me? I just deleted my comments because I didn’t want to argue. I shouldn’t have responded back in the first place IMO. it seemed like we were just misunderstanding each other and I didn’t want an argument to be the focus. There is enough division and doubt going on. I was just trying to ask if this info I saw on Instagram threads was legit or not. I posted a screenshot of my feed and asked my questions in the text below the image. I didn’t crop it well but didn’t expect so many people to be interested tbh! You don’t have to apologize for being skeptical nor will I apologize for asking questions. but I felt like you were being accusatory by saying that me posting this means somehow I preemptively believed it was true? And talked down to me with the assumption you made AND then called me sensitive because I said you were incorrect. Legitimately asking, what did I accuse you of?
PrestigiousEnd8726@reddit
Your exit information is captured by the airline when you check in at the airport. The airline provides this information to DHS. If you overstay they can bar you from re-entry for 3-10 years. This is what they are doing at the ground ports of entry/exit. They want to catch as many people as possible who over stay and bar them from re-entry. They don't want to keep anyone here, they want to prevent you from coming back.
machinegunkisses@reddit
Why go through extensive vehicle searches, then?
PrestigiousEnd8726@reddit
CBC news reached out to Customers and Border Patrol and this is their answer:
"U.S. Customs and Border Protection only told CBC News that, as part of its national security mission, it "routinely conducts inspections on outbound traffic" in order to apprehend "wanted individuals" and to seize "a variety of contraband."
I guess if you have warrants or Jack Daniels whiskey don't cross the border right now.
GenerationJonez@reddit
No point in taking Jack Daniels, anyhow: it has our American cooties and the Canadians won't touch it!
skipdog98@reddit
The new checkpoint is at a land crossing
PrestigiousEnd8726@reddit
Land and ground have nearly the same meaning.
Hamshaggy70@reddit
Land of the free eh?
adramassey@reddit
What about taking a train into Canada line the Amtrak Maple Leaf line?
Cheap-Road-Trip5367@reddit
20 years ago this happened to me driving from Spokane to Rossland on highway 25. I was in my 50's, alone on a business trip. There were 4 agents. After they dumped everything out of my suitcase they threw my car keys down on the passenger side floor and said I could go. As I was teaching over to get my keys one of them said to one of his colleagues something to the effect that see how easy it is to get someone to " reach for a weapon". Drove across that same border point a dozen times after that with no problems on either side
LilLebowskiAchiever@reddit
JFC I hadn’t thought of the tactic. Very frightening.
Abbraxous@reddit
Friend of mine at the gym asked me on Friday (since I have travel experience, but none since the current administration came into power) if I’d ever heard of customs agents at the literal door of the plane she’s about to board and come home to Canada. They’re checking everyone’s papers, passports etc.
I’d never heard of it. It was a direct flight from Miami to Home here in Canada, she’d been through all the checks, and still getting asked again before stepping onto the plane off the ramp there’s a guy screening every passenger.
JunketFluffy5305@reddit
I crossed and came back yesterday no problem. PNW into and out of Canada.
Into Canada took a bit longer, though I was lined up before the border opened. Back into the States took sub 5 min. There was no line coming back in. I understand the border towns are seeing less traffic, so the lines aren't as bad.
Fun_Ad_8277@reddit
If true this is deeply deeply disturbing.
SenatorAdamSpliff@reddit
I’m looking at three major crossing points here in Michigan on google maps right now (7:19 PM EST) (Detroit tunnel/bridge and Port Huron) and you don’t see any sort of trafffic you’d expect if they were stopping all cars. These are some of the busiest crossings in North America.
Logical_Signal2988@reddit
The check points are to document, photo and potentially capture all illegal immigrants trying to leave the U.S.
They are to be offered a free ride out of the U.S. on a one way trip, not to Canada obviously per the White Houses statement recently in the news.
I voted for Trump, and its a big mess but he is cleaning it up, the mess that this country has become. You don't belong here you gotta go.
urnotpaul@reddit
So why capture people trying to leave?
Logical_Signal2988@reddit
documentation
mumwifealcoholic@reddit
Yeah , get rid of those kids with cancer!
Karma gonna get y’all.
SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING@reddit
North Korea speedrun.
Rootin-Tootin-Newton@reddit
Sounds weird… if I buy a plane ticket I don’t get stopped.
02meepmeep@reddit
In a way, you are. You get photographed for domestic flights now and all your stuff gets x rayed and taken if it happens to be a tiny leatherman
Rootin-Tootin-Newton@reddit
Very true.
Remote-Letterhead844@reddit
I saw someone talk about this the other day.
They are getting people used to being stopped so in the future they can prevent people (women) from traveling to receive health care.
Lemme see if I can find the sauce I saw the other day discussing this.
MotherTreacle3@reddit
It'll be expanded to cover all "undesirable" categories. Gay, PoC, "commies", etc...
Remember the Nazi stereotype: "Vere are you papers?"
the_need_for_tweed@reddit
If this is true then this is absolutely fucked. I don’t have any other words to describe it
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Just to be clear I saw this on my Instagram and asking if this is true. Not making a statement I should have put the text on the top of the image and cropped the image better. I didn’t expect so many people to comment…maaaay take down.
AcrobaticLadder4959@reddit
What do you mean you need permission to leave. That is not true. They might check you, but you don't need permission.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
I didn’t make that statement. I am asking if this is true.
Chilli_Dog72@reddit
How does this differ from having to show your passport to customs as your depart the airport heading overseas?
If I want to travel from NZ to Australia, I have to show my passport as I leave NZ and board the plane..
Are they asking to see anything more intrusive than your passport?
igloohavoc@reddit
Did the road to Canada from the USA used to have checkpoints, like when you’re driving out of the USA
skipdog98@reddit
No. I’ve been travelling this border crossing (Peace Arch) and other nearby ones (truck crossing, Aldergrove and Sumas) for over 40 years. My husband even longer. Never ever seen a US CBP exit checkpoints NB. Previous, US CBP conducted SB checks at their entry border booths and Canadian CBSA conducted their NB checks on Canadian soil at the Canadian booths.
igloohavoc@reddit
That’s what I figured, typically Canadian border is open. I have made that trip twice in my life and don’t remember and security checks to exit the USA. But this memory is from decades ago.
joik@reddit
At the actual border, yes. Not miles up the road
RajenBull1@reddit
You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave.
LongTatas@reddit
“DOnT treAd oN Me1!”
PrestigiousEnd8726@reddit
Read the whole comment
Row30@reddit
Where the bottom is cut off?
sinkingduckfloats@reddit
Probably the infrastructure to photograph people going both directions on the border:
https://www.wired.com/story/cbp-face-recognition-exit-us-border/
Paywall bypass: https://12ft.io/https://www.wired.com/story/cbp-face-recognition-exit-us-border/
ClassroomMother8062@reddit
I can absolutely see this occurring under this regime.
That said, we're going to need to verify this.
Traditional-Egg-5871@reddit
It was in the Buffalo News on Friday.
Ok_Ebb8648@reddit
I just drove through Port Huron to Sarnia on Thursday and back through the Windsor tunnel on Saturday. I didn’t see any outbound checkpoints either way.
ispygirl@reddit
There were often random US checkpoints before crossing into Canada when I lived in Seattle and would go to Vancouver…you all aren’t hearing this, only what you want to hear!
skipdog98@reddit
Have been travelling from BC into WA for 40+ years and have never seen CBP checkpoints except at the SB CBP booths. Never. And certainly never NB, only meters from the Canadian booths.
This_Marketing_1013@reddit
Kool. 1933 all over again. I am here 4 it
Shoehorse13@reddit
My bullshit detector is on high alert based on a single unsupported post.
SorryImNotOnReddit@reddit
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7528402
U.S. border patrol officers have been setting up extra checkpoints near crossings between the U.S. and Metro Vancouver.
In an unusual scene, vehicles in the U.S. that are heading north to Canada through the Peace Arch and Pacific Highway crossings are sometimes being stopped by U.S. border patrol before they leave the country and arrive at Canadian customs. In some cases, it has added hours to crossing times.
Shoehorse13@reddit
Now this tracks. But nothing about needing permission to leave the country, which yeah... things are bad enough without spreading unfounded rumors.
SorryImNotOnReddit@reddit
I live in Vancouver, BC so we see it on our Canadian News media. There is nothing YET about needing permission to leave the country. From what I've heard now that they will be implenting some kind of initiative to document with biometric data everyone EXITING the USA from all land crossings. Either they build a new building for PRE-CLEARANCE or who knows.
zw9491@reddit
Yeah… who and how would permission be granted anyway? A note from your local sheriff?
This-Fruit-8368@reddit
The commentary about needing permission is hyperbolic for sure, but for how long? Every single day more and more of our rights are taken away. This is blatantly unconstitutional and a massive red flag because we all know the next step will be to require permission.
Shoehorse13@reddit
I can definitely see the potential that coming, yes. Feels like every day is some fresh new hell with nobody doing anything to stop it.
kroating@reddit
So outbound checkpoints existed before for amber alerts etc. but honestly they seem to be getting more common even for flights. My husband was flying overseas and everyone boarding the flight was checked. This yr it has happened to every friend of mine. We have been in US for 10-15 yrs and not once has this happened to anyone we know. Its definitely sus.
SergeantThreat@reddit
I’d like to see more sources of this, but if IS agents are doing checks when leaving the country, this is extremely concerning
Whole-Signature-4306@reddit
Bro really posted a threads while scrolling Instagram
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
What????
overitallofittoo@reddit
What was said?!
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Just an emoji rolling eye and face palm.
FrostyGranite@reddit
Combine this activity with the proclamation of hiring on at least 20,000 more DHS agents, seems like this activity will become more commonplace and widespread.
Conscious_Ad8133@reddit
“Permission to leave” is currently inaccurate hyperbole. However, outbound and interior checkpoints are within CBP’s authority and have been used in the past including in Vermont in 2008 and 2018. Per VTDigger:
“Under federal law, Border Patrol has broad authority to conduct searches of vehicles [cars, boats] within 100 miles of the border, including international waters. Roughly 2/3 of the U.S. population lives in that zone.”
CBP can also search private land within 25 miles of the border without a warrant.
CBP searches of homes DO require a warrant, although the current administration has stated that they believe ICE doesn’t need one to search a home anywhere in the US under the Alien Enemies Act. I believe the latter is being challenged in the courts?
Regardless, the June 2022 Egbert v. Boule ruling made it more difficult for citizens to sue federal officials who violate their constitutional rights. So don’t expect much redress if agents overstep.
Inner_Mortgage_8294@reddit
Apparently they're taking pics of cars that leave the US and cross the border.
zedray@reddit
OP, please do better.
This is fulll-phone screenshot of your instagram feed. You didn’t even crop out the too and bottom bits much less tap through to the threads post and screenshot the full post.
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Fahwright@reddit
Yuge Tessler sized red flag.
SquirrelMurky4258@reddit
🙄🤦♂️
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Maybe I should have put my text on top of the image instead lol
pineapplecatlady24@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the confirmation lol
Electrical-Frontside@reddit
I can’t find anything about that…
Proof_of_Love@reddit
BS, good Buddy just went to Canada without any issues. FEAR SELLS
SmashSE1@reddit
They are not stopping all cars, nor have permanent checkpoints. But they are stopping a lot of cars, US agents.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/us-bc-border-checkpoint-1.7528402
Border patrol even admits it according to the article.
Sum-Duud@reddit
They wouldn’t want any potential photoshop victims getting away from them