Anon Likes Doctor Who
Posted by IceMagic75@reddit | greentext | View on Reddit | 63 comments
Posted by IceMagic75@reddit | greentext | View on Reddit | 63 comments
MessyKerbal@reddit
It sucks that the writing is absolute dogshit now. I think Jodie Whittaker made a good Doctor but was just crippled by incredibly mediocre writing.
Pumpkin_Sushi@reddit
"Doctor Who has been progressive before!"
The difference was it was also other stuff at the same time
MonsutaReipu@reddit
It's the same energy as the people who go "THE BOYS WAS ALWAYS MAKING FUN OF YOU CHUDS!" when really it wasn't including any heavy handed political themes at all in the first season, and then it decided it was going to just base the entire plot around Homelander being Trump.
TheBeneficent@reddit
100% this. The boys has been terrible since they went lefty political. Season 1 is amazing - leaving it up to the viewer to decide who was “right”, since both sides had serious issues. Now its “superheroes aka right wing bad” … “underdogs aka lefty good”
Tokipudi@reddit
Even setting politics aside, the show started being way less interesting once Capaldi stepped in. I wanted to like him, and I'm sure he's not that bad of a doctor, but the writing was boring.
Fun_Pound5629@reddit
He was a great doctor as an actor but I agree. Part of it for me is the series' preceding this went so fucking scorched earth with high concept stuff.
Every rock was turned over, with the doctors death and the Clara through time stuff, the river song backwards/forwards stuff, the link to the ponds/doctor = soldier/manufactured assassin and him breaking time for her, everything involving the Master and Gallifrey etc etc
It meant a normal, fairly inconsequential adventure felt pointless without some allusion to a big mindfuck series finale and stopped writers caring about doing the little eps well
psychocopter@reddit
For me, it felt like they jumped the shark and I stopped watching right as capaldi took over.
Fun_Pound5629@reddit
It did get weirder around that time too definitely. Thinking about it, they had Capaldi break the fourth wall with these quasi-philosophical little speeches addressing the audience before an episode. Which was sort of a new level of wackiness
Darksiddha@reddit
The worst part is the fact that Capaldi is probably the best actor to have taken on the role... you can literally feel how clunky the writing for the first 2/3s of his run. His best episodes are the last 3-4, and even that is only because he grew into the role and made it his own despite being hampered by poor, poor writing
Andor66@reddit
Even if this is the general opinion, I disagree. To me, Capaldi is the best Doctor. He had the best speeches, the best interaction with the Master, the best regeneration episode, etc. Of course, there are some boring episodes, but every Doctor has them.
Capaldi's Doctor was older, more serious, and didn’t try to be likeable. What made him stand out was how much he questioned himself—he often wondered if he was a good person or doing the right thing. It gave the character a deeper, more thoughtful side that felt really unique.
Starting with Jodie, everything went downhill, I agree. The only good thing from the three seasons was The Master.
And now, the new seasons are so terrible that I don't have words to describe. For me, Capaldi refused to regenerate.
gasman245@reddit
That’s also when I gave up on it. Watched a hand full of episodes with Capaldi and it just felt different in a way I didn’t like. And you best believe I didn’t even give the woman a chance.
MyJointsAreCrips4Lyf@reddit
Capaldi's first series was rough, after that though there were a few gems. I'm not gonna pretend they were all bangers though.
Whittaker was just an ache the whole way through though. There was one episode where it felt like she was the Doctor, otherwise she was just some random person apologising to everyone.
Ok_Analysis6731@reddit
Yeah they wrote her terribly its really sad, I thought she herself did a great time.
Neil_Ribsy@reddit
Capaldi was wasted so badly on his run. The rare episodes with good writing gave us a glimpse of how good his era could have been but most of it was garbo. Even I stopped watching after his run ended.
throwaway6444377_@reddit
People talk about Capaldi ruining the show but honestly his era felt like the show actually coming back for a last gasp of breath.
I HATED Matt Smith's run. He was an alright enough Doctor and later on it was more interesting with Clara, but it was too goofy in his first two seasons
ShopperOfBuckets@reddit
The show has barely been sci-fi at any point in the modern era. Just let kids enjoy it, I'm annoyed by adults whining about Star Wars and Doctor Who, it's not meant for you.
EddieCarver@reddit
Dr who was marketed towards the whole family. In the doctor who universe the Sarah Jane adventure was the show exclusively aimed towards kids (wirh torchwood being aimed more to adults), it’s just a shame that Elizabeth Sladen passed. That show was amazing.
amodsr@reddit
Bollocks. Dr Who is for everyone and I'm sure he would agree with me.
ThumYerk@reddit
It’s for kids which is why the latest Star Wars series had a rape scene. Are kids really interested in progressive politics either?
Even if it was for kids, which it isn’t, that doesn’t mean it has to be shit.
Holydivergold@reddit
I know we're only halfway into the new series but half of the episodes have been sci-fi
SeaworthlessSailor@reddit
That’s why we stopped watching it…
BorisForPresident@reddit
Ah yes the show that's been making shit up as they go and contradicting itself for over 60 years, that has almost 100 episodes lost to time because no one bothered to archive them, that was so low budget that one of the main baddies have a fucking plunger and whisk for weapons, has now lost continuity because black gay dude.
twofacetoo@reddit
Actually it's lost continuity because they keep rewriting the rules to justify stupid bullshit like bringing David Tennant back to play the 14th Doctor for 5 minutes before replacing him with another guy entirely
Tahrann@reddit
You mean the 2 episode special that introduced the new Doctor in the last 10 minutes of the second episode?
The_Meemeli@reddit
*3 episode special, last 10 minutes of the third episode
BorisForPresident@reddit
Yes because that makes so much less sense than tenant becoming magic during regeneration and his severed hand granting miracles. Hell the first doctor never actually regenerated, the whole regeneration thing was written in after the fact. They have been doing this shit all along and at the end of the day it's a show for kids.
wolphak@reddit
Fr how does anyone watch that dogshit to begin with. You have more fun with og star trek or rawhide
Expensive-Ad-1205@reddit
It's fun but it's not fun because it's authentic scifi but rather because it's space fantasy with some fun characters and episodic-style mysteries
wolphak@reddit
I'm sure the local av club has made some minorly amusing content too. Doesn't mean anyone watched it.
alex494@reddit
Just because you dislike something doesn't mean you need to be a dismissive obnoxious prick about it.
beansahol@reddit
This but unironically.
CrazyTownUSA000@reddit
Matt Smith should have been the last doctor
abundanceofb@reddit
Progressive stuff aside, The Timeless Child and RTD turning the show in to a space fantasy instead of sci-fi, has killed it.
MonsutaReipu@reddit
this reminded me of the last season of Sex Education. Holy FUCK what a disaster that was. I remember watching it with my wife, and we were like "lol surely this new school is just satire"
Rucs3@reddit
This person thinks star wars is sci fi
SoupaMayo@reddit
Isn't it Space Opera ?
Vikerchu@reddit
All space operas are sci fi, not all sci fi's are space operas.
But the entire "star wars is fantasy" thing is stupid because the only magic system that's shown as "fantastical" is the nightsister stuff. The excessive amount of effort mr. Lucas put into making the force completely understandable and non "it can do everything" is indicative of someone who didn't want to write fantasy. (obviously this has been diluted by disney, but the DNA is hard to handwave away)
Ja_corn_on_the_cob@reddit
Sci-Fi and fantasy are so vague of genres that it makes more sense to define them by thematic elements rather than whether or not they have magic or science. Sci-fi stories usually deal with themes of humanity and our relationship with technology, whereas Fantasy often deals with themes of tradition and change. Sci-fi generally has more morally grey characters whereas Fantasy relies more on good vs evil stories. In the thematic sense I would say Star Wars aligns much more heavily with a traditional work or fantasy than Sci-fi. At the end of the day though, genres are vague and are meant to be blended to create new art. The Mandolorian, for example, is a western
SoupaMayo@reddit
Fair. Imo it's both, scifi and space opera, unless I don't really know what scifi is
twofacetoo@reddit
This person thinks the only sci-fi that exists is 'Star Trek' and everything else doesn't count
Zen-Devil@reddit
Star Wars is more fantasy than sci-fi.
NathanielColes@reddit
The year is 2025. Doctor Who is too progressive and the writers suck so it's going down the drain.
The year is 2022. Doctor Who is too progressive and the writers suck so it's going down the drain.
The year is 2017. Doctor Who is too progressive and the writers suck so it's going down the drain.
The year is 2010. Doctor Who is too progressive and the writers suck so it's going down the drain.
The year is 1987. Doctor Who is too progressive and the writers suck so it's going down the drain.
The year is
thermitethrowaway@reddit
The year is 1985. Peri is wearing a low cut and skin tight top, I want to suck so the zip is going down again.
untakenu@reddit
They switched from being about aliens, the future, the past and occasionally weird unexplainable stuff (weeping angels, the Ood devil). But it felt cohesive to the brand.
Now it's just gods and whinging. None of it matters.
The recent episode Lux might be the shittest I've ever seen. A cartoon comes out of the screen in a 50s cinema, essentially abducts people. Turns out he's the God of light...ok. There are never any stakes, there is a pathetic attempt at "oh no, racism bad".
He trapped them in a cartoon, which they escaped instantly by "having depth".
They burn down the place, he's exposed to the sun and absorbs so much light he expands beyond the universe...
Oh, and the doctor cries, AGAIN. Because you can't show that you're in touch with your emotions if you aren't crying all the time.
It got bought by Disney or something, but feels cheaper than ever, as if they are given 1 set, and that's it. Old Dr who was cheap, but charming.
I hope it is dead for a very long time.
Reinhardtisawesom@reddit
Weirdly enough I think the show is too high budget now
Altruistic-Local-541@reddit
what is his problem with stephen fry?
leebenjonnen@reddit
Him marrying a dude half his age is kinda weird.
Altruistic-Local-541@reddit
hm didnt know about that
I guess the guy is still well past the age where you could question his ability to think for himself (based on age)
it is slightly weird yeah, but honestly to me being gay is slightly weird in itself as well so idk
I really love fry & laurie so I'm pretty biased
leebenjonnen@reddit
Yeah, I don't mind Fry as a person at all. He wrote one of my favourite books and I think he hasn't ever told a story I didn't like.
But him marrying a 28 year old while he was 57 is kind of weird to me but that just shows why you shouldn't idolize these people. Everybody has their own shortcomings, or just aspects in general which are weird.
CygnusSong@reddit
I’m not sure marrying a full adult person who happens to be significantly younger than you counts as a shortcoming. As long as they’re both happy, good for them
TheManWithAStand@reddit
I mean, I think if you're pushing thirty you're past the point where age can fuck up the power dynamics of the relationship. He said "lemme fuck that old guy" and by jove he'll fuck Stephen fry
leebenjonnen@reddit
Yeah, not saying that it's immoral but I personally wouldn't.
TheManWithAStand@reddit
Idk, maybe when I'm 60 I'll still like guys who dodge twink death like neo matrix
finnicus1@reddit
I fw Stephen Fry heavy and I just want to take a moment to apologise in anticipation for anything I might say and ask that you trust that I am not in my right mind.
Amerikai@reddit
Just look at his face in the photo
Altruistic-Local-541@reddit
send me a pic of u smilin when u r 60
SoupaMayo@reddit
Bro think Dr Who made sense since the beginning
It's a show for fun and Le Epic Mystery, it's not rocket science. I love Dr Who, I'm a big fan, but let's not pretend it's nothing more than Sherlock Holmes in space
yeetus_feetus1234@reddit
The return of David Tenant brought me back to the show after losing interest in the Capaldi seasons. I like what they have been doing with it so far.
Dd_8630@reddit
Except the current season has been some of the best Who since the 2000s 🤷♂️
Haters gonna hate. I'm having a blast. Chibnell was an asshat, RTD is GOAT.
Timekeeper98@reddit
The recent episode with Mr. Ring-A-Ding was pretty cool though, and amazing technical work on the animation side of it.
De_Dominator69@reddit
The last two points are pretty accurate tbf, the series has kind of been stuck with the same group of writers leading it, and the BBC is kind of in desperate need of new writing talent. Practically every noteworthy writer for the BBC has already wrote on Doctor Who, and when it comes to show runner the BBC is not going to trust the series to someone who is not well established with an accomplished track record so it has made things a little stagnant.
GroundPounder18@reddit
Once again I find myself with anon on the very bottom
Sec_Chief_Blanchard@reddit
So dramatic