I was like, why the hell is Richard Feldman writing some AI ad? Then I remembered he works for Zed. I guess Roc won't fund itself
About this post, as expected, I don't know exactly what qualifies it as "fastest". Pretty sure all these features are available in every other editor (even nvim). Also, 500 prompts for 20$/month? Isn't that outrageously expensive?
Fastest by far? I feel like people are forgetting about sublime text which is available since time immemorial and doesn't need to brag about not being written in javascript.
It may be better, never used it but faster at what? Sublime text snap opens everything even large executables. Zero trouble with gigabyte plus logs, indexing that you don't even notice. This is a pretty large claim.
This article was faked by the author and is now deleted. Sublime is actually faster in most use cases and more importantly for large files with multi cursors.
That's just not true. Sublime Text is still faster than Zed by a mile. Also try doing multiple cursors on a large file in Zed and it comes to a complete halt whereas Sublime stays buttery smooth throughout.
Well, you could literally just download the software either 10x or Zed and be convinced or not.
Just to make things clear, I couldn't care less if people like them or not. I just tell you how good theses editors feels reactivity and animation smoothness wise especially when scrolling. This is all very subjective and not everyone care about it.
There are some benchmark online that highlight performance but they were from 2024. A quick google search would allow you to find the post quickly, I think it was highlighted on something like medium or else
But it's not even logic as this kind of benchmark is hardware dependant and what better then to do it yourself on your own machine and find out.
Not only is your point absolutely meaningless as it wont proove anything (had I given you my local numbers), but this is something you could easily do yourself in a very fast way.
See yeah, I insist, you are just cruising for a bruising.
Maybe use Stackoverflow, where a real person wrote the answer, and other real people reviewed the solution? Maybe you can ask the hallucination machine what Ctrl C and Ctrl V do?
You sound like my coworker that can't write emails on her own anymore lmao.
I like SO (and query it from my editor also, shoutout sx.el) but you need to have a question that matches what you need and was answered recently, it doesn't help you with novel output or have any kind of iterative process. It's interesting to me that when SO started the stereotype is it was just full of noobs begging for how to do trivial things in jquery and now it's the distinguished old gentleman of copying and pasting code.
I mean, that's how forums work. You have a question, you search to see if anyone else has asked it, if you can't find an answer you ask your question. ...Or you skip searching and get bullied :P
LLMs will read the same SO posts related to what you typed, then blend them together in a way that sounds good (regardless of if it's correct). And if it doesn't know, it's not gonna make a post itself, it's gonna talk out of its ass and hope you don't notice.
teerre@reddit
I was like, why the hell is Richard Feldman writing some AI ad? Then I remembered he works for Zed. I guess Roc won't fund itself
About this post, as expected, I don't know exactly what qualifies it as "fastest". Pretty sure all these features are available in every other editor (even nvim). Also, 500 prompts for 20$/month? Isn't that outrageously expensive?
castarco@reddit
I can't say anything about the AI part, but regarding the "editor" part... Zed is indeed the fastest code editor out there, by far.
Sevni@reddit
Fastest by far? I feel like people are forgetting about sublime text which is available since time immemorial and doesn't need to brag about not being written in javascript.
castarco@reddit
It's way better than Sublime, and yes, also faster.
Sevni@reddit
It may be better, never used it but faster at what? Sublime text snap opens everything even large executables. Zero trouble with gigabyte plus logs, indexing that you don't even notice. This is a pretty large claim.
Creamyc0w@reddit
https://medium.com/@simpleandkind788/zed-vs-vscode-speed-or-the-need-for-speed-f942c8d261e6
The above article has a comparison between Zed and Sublime text latency and Zed was 17ms faster.
real_serviceloom@reddit
This article was faked by the author and is now deleted. Sublime is actually faster in most use cases and more importantly for large files with multi cursors.
oln@reddit
Have they actually done benchmarks? There are plenty of editors out there that don't use electron and JS besides sublime.
mamba436@reddit
I agree for the bloat.
Benchmarks ? There are already plenty of them but they are from 2024.
The difference isn't as huge as people believe (number wise) as sublime is really performant too.
But I do feel that zed is way more responsive too
teerre@reddit
Fastest in what?
mamba436@reddit
Opening, editing, scrolling it's just butter smooth and no other ide or text editor come closes to it. Except https://10xeditor.com/
real_serviceloom@reddit
That's just not true. Sublime Text is still faster than Zed by a mile. Also try doing multiple cursors on a large file in Zed and it comes to a complete halt whereas Sublime stays buttery smooth throughout.
teerre@reddit
Uh, do you have any proof?
mamba436@reddit
Well, you could literally just download the software either 10x or Zed and be convinced or not.
Just to make things clear, I couldn't care less if people like them or not. I just tell you how good theses editors feels reactivity and animation smoothness wise especially when scrolling. This is all very subjective and not everyone care about it.
There are some benchmark online that highlight performance but they were from 2024. A quick google search would allow you to find the post quickly, I think it was highlighted on something like medium or else
teerre@reddit
Uh... No? Speed, "reactivity" or whatever you're thinking of is a number, if it was real, you would be able to measure it
mamba436@reddit
Yeah yeah whatever
teerre@reddit
Don't be upset. Just don't present your opinions as if they were facts, it's not hard
mamba436@reddit
It's not upset, just tired of tribalism mind of thinking + playing on minor details where it's too subjective to actually care.
teerre@reddit
The minor detail of asking you to conduct the minimal test to corroborate your point
mamba436@reddit
But it's not even logic as this kind of benchmark is hardware dependant and what better then to do it yourself on your own machine and find out.
Not only is your point absolutely meaningless as it wont proove anything (had I given you my local numbers), but this is something you could easily do yourself in a very fast way.
See yeah, I insist, you are just cruising for a bruising.
phplovesong@reddit
AI editor? No thanks.
sisyphus@reddit
What is a more efficient way to get LLM output into your code if not integrating it with your editor?
ftp_hyper@reddit
Maybe use Stackoverflow, where a real person wrote the answer, and other real people reviewed the solution? Maybe you can ask the hallucination machine what Ctrl C and Ctrl V do?
You sound like my coworker that can't write emails on her own anymore lmao.
sisyphus@reddit
I like SO (and query it from my editor also, shoutout sx.el) but you need to have a question that matches what you need and was answered recently, it doesn't help you with novel output or have any kind of iterative process. It's interesting to me that when SO started the stereotype is it was just full of noobs begging for how to do trivial things in jquery and now it's the distinguished old gentleman of copying and pasting code.
mamba436@reddit
Technically when you are using LLMs, you are pasting code.
Llms are nothing more then a mix of probability and pattern matching of existing data.
ftp_hyper@reddit
I mean, that's how forums work. You have a question, you search to see if anyone else has asked it, if you can't find an answer you ask your question. ...Or you skip searching and get bullied :P
LLMs will read the same SO posts related to what you typed, then blend them together in a way that sounds good (regardless of if it's correct). And if it doesn't know, it's not gonna make a post itself, it's gonna talk out of its ass and hope you don't notice.
xFallow@reddit
I was so looking forward to zed being the next eMacs instead it’s just the next vscode
Stromcor@reddit
Not even that. When it has *real* extension maybe, but I'm not holding my breath.