that guy,the mayor of Bucharest, has a lot of scandals related to him, the most sensitive one being that he refused to give an construction permit(the law forces him to do it) for a private children cancer hospital, after the scandal he gave it a few days ago.
The company that wanted to develop the mentioned hospital sue him and won, but he still refused, so basically he gave himself the role of a judge and jury.
The huge number of posts that promote him is because he has some very "generous" contributors for which he refused to name in his campaign
So, I wasn’t planning to respond to you because, sadly, propaganda has influenced your opinion a lot, but I’m going to give it a shot.
Nobody is perfect. We all make mistakes. This is why I think it’s very stupid to judge Nicusor based on just one issue.
First of all, it wasn’t about the fact that he didn’t want the extension of the private hospital. He believed it would fit better in another location. That area is very small and already super crowded. Daily, there are traffic jams, etc.
Secondly, his campaign was very transparent, you can see the list of people who donated on the site. For example, I donated, and I also know some others who did. I cannot understand why people take every little thing and use it against someone with good intentions.
Do not forget that the person who accused him of not wanting to sign for the private hospital is the same one who hasn’t done anything for the country. What has his party accomplished in terms of building public hospitals over the years?
It's actually wild how much the face reveals about the candidates in this case. I had to double check that I remembered the people right, and it's indeed the mathematician with the kindest face.
Someone should do some statistical analysis about the face of politicians and their politics.
We all hope he wins it so we dont have you guys' faith under Orban. 1st one is exactly Orban, 2nd one is a moderate Orban, 4th one is the systems' candidate, he'll bring nothing new, just a warrant of 5 more years of incompetence and corruption.
yeah the guy before you told me he’s getting a lot of shit from the state-controlled media - the same thing that’s happening here. I was also surprised to hear that Calin Georgescu was excluded from the campaign after people found out that he was backed by the russians. Here in hungary these parties are either Orbán’s party or some minor satellite parties, they keep letting them exist. I really hope you guys can fight the tyranny, I wish the best of luck for the Romanian people.
As my historical enemy, it is my eternal duty to say this to you:
I really hope you guys get your country back soon. You guys have so much potential that's wasted under this discount dictator it makes me cry. It'll probably take quite some time until we manage to fix both our countries, but I'm looking forward to building a better and stronger Europe with you guys 🇷🇴🤝🇭🇺
I recently visited and it really reminded me of Romania in communism, It was a sunday and the city was dead after 6PM, mall security was really mean to us, I needed to use the restroom in a mall after i ordered from the food court and they straight up yelled at me: NO!
Propaganda posters anti EU and zelensky every 2 meters, idk what happened because i've been to hungary before during Orban's regime and it was not AS bad.
Ah, also the roads were absolutely degraded compared to the last time i visited, and up untill reaching the Romanian "border" i observed that the lights were completely off everywhere.
Another funny thing i saw was that they were selling watches in the city center with the hungarian map still containing Transilvania. :)).
Guy on the bottom left is the only one with a positive and law-abiding track record. But he is getting a lot of shit in the media from the corrupted system
As a romanian he is indeed the best option, I like that he is skilled at some other things besides politics, he was a mathematics Olympian.
That being said if you ask me personally I would not vote for him either if i had a better choice, each one of the candidates is going the conservatove route in some way or another and coming forward very publicly in regards to their family values and stuff, all of them support religion which again, i don't see why that is a required topic in a political debate.
The one that has the closest views to mine in terms of social matters (not personal views because she is also a religious biot, but what she showcases from a political standpoint) is Lasconi, who is not even pictured here, yet she is totally unhinged lately.
All in all as a romanian i'm just happy that the Călin Georgescu debackle ended and i can not live in the fear of votes anymore, i belive that whoever wins will still steal and they are all two peas in a pod, but at least none of them is a literal russian spy came from the depths of tiktok propaganda. (Even though i'm not sure about simion and ponta not being russian spies to some extent, but at least they are doing their campain in plain sight).
There isn’t by the face, we can’t vote by how that person look, If he’s kind or not and then expect him to do kindness things for people jus bcs he have a kind face
as I said I don’t know any of them, so I can’t judge by their actions but believe it or not their honesty can be visible, especially in these pictures. The other two candidates are not even smiling, I guess that wouldnt be too honest from them
The AfD is led by a woman in an interracial lesbian marriage, british fascism was founded by a woman, and the czech is led by a half-japanese.
Welcome to the 21st century, where the ideologic points are made up, and the rules dont mean anything.
Obama is a democrat who believes everyone has a fair crack at the whip he knew how to grow an economy and make sure everyone has a good standard off living. Simion is a violent criminal. Who doesn’t know how to do any of these things but likes corruption like trump Maga. And doesn’t like anyone who isn’t a corrupt billionaire
Thank god you do not have the right to vote in Romania. He might have roma origins but he is far from been a Romanian Obama he is just an extremist that if he could he would kill Roma, black people, gays , who ever is not supporting him. His party already made undesirables lists (prowestern intelectuals)
Honestly as optimistic as I wanna be we will probably end up just end up voting for the lesser evil as always. I really hope ND (bottom left) wins but at the same time, the lack of education in our country can fuck us over so much. Maybe the gods of democracy will for once be kind to us 🙏🏻
🙏 for me it is a lot better than the last time. My decision was made months ago when he announced he will candidate. Even if the odds are small.. at least I have the peace of mind knowing I voted for someone who genuinely cares about our society and its people.. 🥺
Yeah exactly we did all we could it’s honestly the first time we actually have a good, actually good presidential candidate. We have a real chance to change things and I hope the people will make the right choice not fueled by anger but hope.
America is not a country you can invite into your house anymore. It will raid your fridge wear your clothes and eat all your food. Simian and america will only let the rich and corrupt eat at romanias kitchen table
Dan believes in a fair crack at the whip for everyone and is committed to working with the eu. To grow romanias economy. And unite. Which trump and Putin hate as they aren’t able to do much with counties that aren’t corrupt
Democracy is a fragile system and would've gone extinct already if there was no one to defend it.
Commiting a fraudulent, unmarked campaign where bots spam social media platforms with your propaganda to the point where you're the 9th most viral thing on TikTok worldwide and declaring zero campaign spendings is not democratic if you ask me.
If a candidates campaign is conducted through the 3rd party, possibly not even connected to the candidate, why should the candidate be disqualified? How can they affect it?
What if that happended to every candidate except one, should they all be disqulified except the candidate that didnt have a campaign?
Canceling elections that were conducted without fraud is clearly undemocratic. You don't defend democracy by canceling elections and disregarding the will of the people.
Elections that were conducted without fraud was evidently not the case here though.
The problem here is the secret services' lack of action. They should've recognized what was going on earlier and removed him before the voting started, or at the very least before the first round was validated.
How is it not democratic? They cancelled the election because of clear Russian interference and electoral irregularities in his campaign. It wouldn't make sense to let him run again in the very election that was cancelled because of his actions. They didn't "remove his right to be elected permanently", only for this particular election. He isn't prohibited to participate in the next election (if he isn't jailed by then)
The elections were fair, though. He was elected. No fraud. Therefore the elections were democratic.
Also, where is the "clear" russian interference? Has never been proved, to my knowledge, or at least no documents have ever been made public showing proof of it.
I don’t know anything about Romanian politics, but I wouldn’t trust anyone with these eyes. That’s a viper.
https://preview.redd.it/t56u97mhujye1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38d66a776a6f18f0d72530dc346710de69ac0561
>The top left guy has a yellow background, which separates him from the rest. Subliminal tactics at play.
Nothing subliminal about it. It's just the colour of his party.
https://preview.redd.it/u90ayv8gcjye1.png?width=738&format=png&auto=webp&s=e3eb0f11deadd8d85554ffe25c3fc6df5bdc9fde
>It has been described as supporting anti-vaccination ideas and being Magyarophobic, conservative, fascist, neo-fascist, pro-Russian, and antisemitic;
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance\_for\_the\_Union\_of\_Romanians)
A party like that will only attract 99% of all retards. To attract 100%, they really should start look into flatearthing as well.
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The party states that its four main pillars are "family, nation, Christian faith, and liberty".
Feels like reading a dating profile that says "I like racketeering, doing heroin, participating in mass murder, and helping the poor"
It's also funny that while the guy is seen as Magyarophobic he also is a big admirer of Viktor Orban. One or two years ago he declared himself Romania's Orban.
>edit: tbh i just picked him cus he looked kinda goofy
It's easy to look goofy in a group where the other 3 guys look like they'd slit your throat for the right price.
Top left will 100% qualify for the 2nd round of elections, alongside one of the two candidates on the bottom. I hope for bottom left to qualify (and subsequently win), but it'll probably be a marginal difference in votes between both.
As a szekler hungarian, I really hope it won't be the top left guy Simion (see the Valea Uzului 2019 happenings). Apart from that I hope its either ND or CA.
I hope that the golden boy will win it.
And he does have a high chance of doing so. Also the guy on bottom right has a high chance since he is "technically" the choice of the parties who have the majority in most of Romanian elections, and I'm hoping he wont take it.
i'll be find with either of the 2 guys on the left side, but cheering for the golden boy here
Unfortunately I think Simion is nearly guaranteed to win. I would even bet money on it but I will not rule out another cancelation of the elections or disqualification
Unfortunately Reddit is not the correct place to ask. Most Romanians on Reddit are center-right wing pro democracy, pro European, and that have a relatively good education. On Reddit you will find the bottom right man (Nicusor Dan (also the mayor of Bucharest)) as the clear winner.
This is not the case tho. Facebook and Tiktok is filled with people anti EU and anti democracy.
Romanian reddit is center right because they're mostly IT workers and people with higher education who want do get paid more and don't give a shit about everyone else.
Also Romania is a very low trust society so people are reluctant to give the government money to modernize and help the poor.
The vast majority is progressive/left on social issues though.
Stii ca se face diferentierea intre a fi centre-right economic si centre-right social, nu? E complet logic sa vrei taxe mici si sa sustii lgbt+, de exemplu, lucru care inseamna centre-right economic si centre-left social.
Omul meu inca ma ia in 2025 cu minciuna centrismului, care e logica de la baza catalogarii unor marxisti radicali, precum Macron, drept "centristi" si a redefinirii termenului de liberal.
Lasa-ma sa te inchid cu urmatoarea ipoteza: daca AUR sau orice alta miscare conservatoare iti creste netul de la aprox 55%, la 70%, iar USR face fix invers, tu vei vota tot USR, pentru ca votul se acorda social, nu economic.
Daca s-ar vota economic, Partidul Democrat modern, precum si toate miscarile neo-marxiste aferente nu ar mai exista, pentru simplul fapt ca au bagat Occidentul de 3 ori in criza economica in mai putin de 15 ani. Cu toate acestea, inca pierd alegeri la limita, sau chiar castiga - Canada.
Iar centrismul e o minciuna pentru simplul fapt ca ideologiile ce se incadreaza in logica de stanga-dreapta sunte menite sa se anuleze, nu sa se completeze.
Dar continua sa dai copy-paste la niste aberatii care n-au nicio treaba cu realitatea si pe care oricum nu le intelegi.
Omul meu vrea sa ma convinga ca usereul e pe partea lui John Locke.
Nici eu nu cred in centrism dar cred ca ai extrapolat si presupus mult prea mult din ceea ce am zis eu si te-ai enervat prea tare.
1. Problema care apare din exercițiul de imaginație propus de tine este chiar simpla: nu am nicio problema cu a plătii 45% din venit pe taxe daca văd si ceva de pe urma asta. Spitale? Autostrăzi? Cai ferate? Securitate socială? Orice care ar justifica faptul ca lucram 2 săptămâni din 4 pentru taxe? Evident, si cu banii luați, si fără rezultate din banii ăia nu îmi convine. Așadar, o sa modific întrebarea ta astfel: preferi 45% taxe cheltuite corect sau 30% taxe cheltuite corect? O sa îți răspund sincer: 45% (conceptul de taxare progresiva nu ne este străin dar hai sa nu complicăm povestea). Da, as prefera un net mai mare dar, daca in spital mor, la școală învăț ca acum 120 de ani si pe autostrada imi explodează pompa de apa de la vibrații (true story), nu ma incălzesc inca câteva sute de lei.
2. Vorbești cumva de partidul democrat modern care a redresat economia SUA si dupa Reagan, si dupa Bush Sr., si dupa Bush Jr., si dupa Trump? Sau te referi de fapt la "succesul enorm" al ultimelor 100 zile de Trump? Hai sa nu ne căcăm pe noi, partidul republican modern este o bătaie de joc. Americanii nu gândesc prea mult si au si memoria proastă, ca dupa ce Trump i-a omorât pe Covid, l-au mai votat o data. Caută si tu "S&P 500" pe net si lasa-ma cu ideile anti-democrati că nu m-am născut ieri. Nu ii iubesc dar când văd alternativele...
3. Centrismul este cu adevărat o minciună, pentru ca ceea ce înseamnă in realitate este "eu nu vreau sa supăr pe nimeni/e ok si asa/lasa ca merge". Centristul nu e centrist, doar spune asta pentru ca e laș și nu are tupeu să își formeze/susțină părerile. Pot, in teorie, sa vreau sa platesc mai puține taxe fără sa vreau, simultan, sa bag in constituție că relațiile homosexuale sunt ilegale. Pot, de asemenea, sa consider ca e bine ca plătim taxe mari, ca asta ajuta populația generala, dar sa nu imi placa mie oamenii de culoare. Oamenii reali nu urmează tipologii dramaturgice. Toti sunt complexi, toti au idei care nu se pupă, toți si le exprimă diferit. Asta nu inseamna neapărat ca sunt centriști. Realitatea te obliga sa prioritizezi lucrurile, iar ipoteticul clujean absolvent de IT va vota cu USR-ul taxelor mari chiar daca el isi dorește taxe mai mici pentru ca vrea sa își susțină prietenii străini, de alte orientări sexuale, de culoare, etc. Asta nu il face centrist.
4. Nu vreau sa te conving de nimic legat de partide sau de primii oameni ai partidelor. Ipoteza pe care incerc sa o argumentez este ca oamenii sunt complexi iar incercarea ta de a-i clasifica drept centristi cand ei sunt ori confuzi, ori prosti, ori indeciși, sau când doar au alte priorități decât tine este incorectă.
Nu in ultimul rând, daca vrei o conversație civilizată, nu iti oferii parerea cu misto-uri, luat peste picior si alte porcării de meltean bombardier cu taper fade, ochelari de soare cub, vestimentație de final boss si e36 316i compact tuning led jumbo 15 lei fara fiscal. Serios acum, ori discutăm omenește si vedem unde duce schimbul de idei, ori poți continua cu a presara pisaturi bait prin reply ca eu sa ma "supy" si doar ajungem sa ne pierdem vremea. Las-o dreacu că nu suntem pe sintetic.
> 2. Vorbești cumva de partidul democrat modern care a redresat economia SUA si dupa Reagan, si dupa Bush Sr., si dupa Bush Jr., si dupa Trump? Sau te referi de fapt la "succesul enorm" al ultimelor 100 zile de Trump? Hai sa nu ne căcăm pe noi, partidul republican modern este o bătaie de joc. Americanii nu gândesc prea mult si au si memoria proastă, ca dupa ce Trump i-a omorât pe Covid, l-au mai votat o data. Caută si tu "S&P 500" pe net si lasa-ma cu ideile anti-democrati că nu m-am născut ieri. Nu ii iubesc dar când văd alternativele...
Daca mai era nevoie de vreo dovada ca doar dai copy-paste la propaganda de pe reddit.
Omul meu imi da S&P 500 ca exemplu. Da bro, S&P500 a dus-o mai bine ca oricand cand muncitorul de santier sau cel din fabrica stateau acasa si nu puteau munci => nu faceau bani; cand buticul de la coltul strazii era inchis cu lunile, ambele din cauza covidului. Amazonul si cine vrei tu din S&P 500 au rupt atunci. Asta inseamna ca toata lumea o ducea bine? Sau ca sa fiu mai precis - ca majoritatea o duceau bine? Ce gandire sinistra.
Sau cand Obama a semnat bailoutul din 2009, S&P500 s-a dus imediat in sus. Asa s-a recuperat si americanul de rand, care pierduse o masina, o casa, un job? Ai trecut si tu prin aceeasi criza aici. Pana in 2012 (cel devreme) nu putem vorbi de o recuperare reala pentru omul de rand, nicaieri in tarile afectatate de criza.
Insa omul meu vrea sa ma convinga ca 2019, finalul anilor '80, inceputul anilor '90 erau de fapt crizele economice.
Cand propaganda bate realitatea.
Ce vrei tu sa spui e ca e rational (pula mea, si sa te arunci in fata metroului e rezultatul unei rationalizari). Logica din fericire =/= cu discernamantul, logica nu poate afirma valori sau valida opinii, poate doar informa procese decizionale ce sunt parte a unei rationalizari.
Nu e nimic logic in a spune ca vrei sa ai un salariu mai mare, asta e o rezultanta a unui proces logic de genul mai multi bani => mai bine pentru mine.tot logic e si ca taxe mici => nu ai "o tara ca afara" => mai rau pentru tine care vrei "o tara ca afara". Ambele sunt logice dar decizia finala de a spune prefer taxele mici cu impactul in administratie est un proces rational, nu logic. Deci nu, nu e logic sa vrei taxe mai mici si lmao la a spune ca sa vrei o pozitie sociala de stanga e logic cand asta e o judecata de valoare nu o forma de operatie logica
"Pula mea" in sus, "pula mea" in jos. Ai făcut teoria chibritului la un concept simplu. Normal că părerea ta legată de politică e corectă si a mea nu. Este evident din faptul că, in loc sa raspunzi la ce căcat am scris eu, mi-ai făcut lecție despre diferența lexicală dintre cuvintele "rațional" si "logic" si mi-ai dat un exemplu de logică.
Vrei mai bine dar ca sa ai mai bine ai nevoie de salariu mai mare => e logic sa vrei salariul mai mare, ca sa îți fie bine. Vrei salariu mai mare dar ti-ai atins limita profesionala => e logic ca vrei taxe mai mici, ca sa ai salariul mai mare, ca sa iti fie mai bine. Evident ca asta este incompatibil cu "a vrea o țară ca afară" pentru ca, *logic*, pentru a dezvolta România este nevoie de banii din bugetele pe care tu vrei sa le micșorezi ca sa îți fie strict ție mai bine. Si opțiunea asta este logică pentru ca nu s-a născut din nimic. Ilogic este sa vrei si taxe mici, si spital modern. Hai sa nu contestăm ce e logic si ce nu e logic. Nu trebuie să despicăm firu-n patru. E lesne de înțeles la ce m-am referit.*
* Daca nu e clar, atunci incerc mai jos o extorsiune a unui degajament cum ai făcut tu.
1. Iubești oamenii => nu vrei sa fie persecutați => vrei sa fie protejați de lege impotriva discriminării față de particularitățile lor => esti de stânga social
2. Exemplul anterior cu vrutul de taxe mai mici.
3. Rezultatul logic din (1) si (2) este ca iubești oamenii îndeajuns de mult încât sa lupți pentru a-i apăra de persecuție dar nu destul încât sa lupți pentru ca ei sa aibă acces la servicii de sănătate, educație, transport s.a.m.d. Nu e nici ilogic, nici irațional, si esti de stânga social dar de dreapta economic.
P.S. lucrează la formatare ca a trebuit sa citesc de 10 ori ca sa stiu de ce sa te pizdui si tot nu sunt sigur. Un punct, o virgula, o ceva acolo să înțeleagă boul ce ai scris, ca "lmao" nu e semn de punctuație.
1 nu r nimic logic in a iubii oameni, mai ales toti oamenii. E un o judecata de valoare. Mai mult, e si un fail major de silogism simplu din cauza premisei ca ar fi cumva prrmisibil sa fie discriminati in legislatia curenta.
2 nu e logic sa vrei salariu mai mare, asta e un rationament. Nu exista un traseu logic pentru a iti fi mai bine pentru ca binele este o judecata de valoare. Altora poate le este mai bine in spitale mai ok, pentru altii mai bine inseamna sa aiba copii o scoala ok etc.
3 asta e ddfapt singura operatie logica, dar e bazata pe un proces de rationament.
Nu mai confunda logica cu rationamentul. Loca este obiectiva, indisputabila. Rationamentul e mixt, are componente subiective, poate tine cont de etica si e foarte foarte deschis la a fi contestat.
Ah, si mai revin si asupra faptului ca in romania este chiar de stanga sa sustii cauze lgb si de extrema stanga sa susti lgbtq+. Pentru ca centrul nu se afla unde zic americanii, ci fie se afla in centrul liberal conform definitiei fie im centrul perspectivei sistemului politic la care faci referire
Da, aici sunt de acord. Ma rog, etalonul meu este politica Uniunii Europene. Acolo duce mai mult a stânga-dreapta americană, de unde si devierea de standardul românesc din comentariile mele anterioare.
Oricum, la noi e o salată incurabilă de deontologi care nu cred un cuvânt din ce spun, deci standardul romanesc stânga-dreapta e facut la ochi, nu la boloboc
They're politically illiterate. They mean center right by romanian standards. Our "right wing" is far left when compared to the democrats in the US and about as left as the labor party in the uk
Only because it is false for the rest of the world or the US or the UK, it does not mean that it is false for Romania as well. Just like fellow Romanian redditors said in their replies to you.
Trying to mock me while you don't know your facts.... smh
no they're not, they're populist and pretend to do some left-sounding stuff, but they don't have ANY leftist economic ideas(progressive tax, higher wages etc.)
in theory yes, practically not really. Either way as long as they're nationalists and anti European I don't care on which economical side they sit, I will never vote for socially right-wing politicians
The american libertarian platform is also pro-gay marriage and civil unions and stuff, and im pretty sure they are part of the right-wing, too.
Besides, we are in Europe.
The cool part about having more than 2 parties, like the idiotic american system, is that we can mix-and-match economic and social-policies, and their intensity, how we see fit.
And USR consider themselves right-wing, the mainstream conservative right consider them right-wing, the left considers them roght-wing, so they are right-wing.
:))) i told you
You don't know liberal in america is left wing . In europe is right wing.
That way you guys are so confused.
To make it more easy for you . Trump = right. Kamala = left.
the key is nuance, understand there is only one opinion on each side, politics isn't one sided in most places on Earth. It seems that these issues are a bit too complicated for you, but that's okay, just don't correct people on aspects that you don't understand.
USR is as centrist as possible. They have both progressives and conservatives in their party. Just because they support civil partnership between gay couples, it doesn't make them left-leaning.
By the way, Antonescu also supports civil partnership.
Like, literally privatizing healthcare? How can you be so cocky when it's clear from a post office that you paid absolutely no attention to anything happening in Romania.
Economic policies, they're pretty hardcore pro-business with some very american-like ideas (Nasui). They're also not very left in social issues - their current leader is pretty meh on lgbt issues even if her daughter is lgbt. They also give no fucks about the rural poor people so heh.
They are progressive in that they are quite forrule of law, which ... I mean this is the balkans, rule of law is progressive.
I see USR as liberal conservatives (European terminology - pro business, pro pull yourself up by the bootstraps, maintain societal norms outside of one thing, fight the bribe norms).
You are free to think as you want.
Right wing politics has nothing to do with family and christianity. the "right wing" you see is just exploiting whatever they can to win votes.
And if right wing warriors in Romania are pro business, they haven't done/said shit that would be pro business. Even more, they want the NATIONALISATION of companies, which is a COMMUNIST thing ( far left ) - horrible for business.
Simion's "35k euro houses" is literally the same shit you see at blue haired communist feminist movements about "housing for all".
Even more, if you want to be fully traditional, you should acknowledge that Romania is a secular country ( and has been for centuries ) and christianity is not a ground for political leadership/movements.
sorry for ruining your dreams. you're not a right winger...
Ah if only these poor backward peasants wouldn’t be allowed to vote, we would be so much progressive and advanced!
We should maybe put back the census suffrage to filter them out, as they are unfit and unable to make proper decisions
>Ah if only these poor backward peasants wouldn’t be allowed to vote, we would be so much progressive and advanced!
You say that ironically, but it's true:
https://preview.redd.it/es9ejn9j9jye1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fafbaee4d77252c2d320d259bf37c5ca5dd6d189
The uneducated vote for Simion the most, and for Nicusor Dan the least.
It's funny, because even ND is a conservative. We have no progressivists in this election. None.
dafar ur talking about bro...everyone was shouting on reddit that the other side shouldnt have a right to vote 😅 they are more anti democratic then any other group in romania, not even the nationalists speak like that. its just ideologic fascism here....not democracy, dont fool yourself calling it democracy.
and before anyone start crying that i support russia and not minorities...i dont vote this time 😀
Nicusor is a conservative, too. That's why you haven't seen him being attacked on topics like LGBT like Lasconi was last year.
And what do you mean he doesn't have a chance? Romania is still very much pro EU, it is just that there are more pro EU candidates and just 1 anti-EU
calling potititians "populist" is what every potitician strives for. Literally who is the most popular/has the most pupular idead is going to win.
So retarded. "populist" is just a leftist word for when they are losing to show fingers on the opponent, why they are losing.
Populist is a (somewhat) well-defined term in political science. It's also not a 'leftist classification, as it was actually first used (by the definition we use now) to describe left-wing anti-elite parties during McCarthyism.
No, that word popular.
Popular just means you are saying you are standing for "za people" against the "elites", which can be working class proles vs bourgeoise capitalists, little guy against gov overeach, or feelings over alleged technocratic bureaucrats.
Theres nothing left wing or right wing.
My answer is - who cares? Not a single politician is worth anything in this part of the continent. This is the only region where people elect humans dumber than rocks
Top left looks mad untrustworthy
Top right and bottom left look like a before and after high school photo shoot
And bottom right looks like a good guy who is secretly evil
So we have a very stereotypically Balkan looking guy on the upper left, a Latin American guy on the upper right, a Spanish guy on the lower left and a Russian guy on the lower right. Talk about diversity.
this is just the first round; it's practically impossible to win now; this question is for the second round which will supposedly put the top 2 candidates against each other.
Yep. To win from the first round you don't only need 50% of the result, you need 50% of all eligible voters - so you'd almost need more votes than people that show up to actually vote.
No, the participation is over 50%, but to win in the 1st round of elections one single candidate needs over 50% of the total votes, which is impossible
practically, that is. not technically impossible, right? still, the comment i replied to implied that the participation is barely over 50% which is why i was surprised.
that's... wow
In our last general elections in 2023 it was around 90% in both rounds I think. And I think normally we have at least around 70% participation or so?
The non-voters usually believe it will be the same shit with either so why bother, or they just dont feel represented enough and don't want to vote with the one they disagree the least.
Yeah, that makes sense. In Turkey everyone believes either one of the sides will ruin the country forever so they feel that they have to go and vote and prevent that from happening. One side believes that if Erdoğan keeps winning we'll turn into a dictatorship like Iran and face with more restrictions to our freedom and the other side believes that if Erdoğan ever loses the new government will cooperate with separatists and divide the country.
Also a considerabile amount of people that vote for the parties currently in power are dead. Literally dead. They are votes stolen by the parties in power from people who are deceased but not taken out of the voting lists.
The "system" is corrupt to it's core.
Most people on Reddit think last year's elections were cancelled due to russian interferences, but there is no proof of that. (The secret services says it exists, but they won't give it to the media)
What proof the national anti-fraud agency actually found exposed one of the ruling parties (PNL) as the culprit for the tik-tok campaign. (which was blamed on Russia by the state media)
I believe the vote was cancelled because it's the first time 2 opposition candidates went to the 2nd round (this has never happened in the history of romanian democracy), but the "educated" people of romanian reddit will tell you i'm a Russian lover...
I have looked into it, and you can clearly see that the campaign you're referencing is from 2021 and has been removed from most social media platforms at that time. There is absolutely no link between it and the romanian presidential elections of 2024.
All the news sources only link it to Georgescu because he posted an anti-vax video at that time, but again, this was almost 4 years before he would even run for office. There is again no evidence to link Georgescu to that campaign or company.
And let's be real for a second here, it's been half a year and the man is free to walk. If he was guilty of any of this we wouldn't be talking about him now. He would be in jail.
They arrested a guy for donating to tik-tok lives (Bogdan Peșchir) and didn't find any evidence to prosecute him with. He is also free to walk at this time, but choses not to. (probably because he wants to sue the Romanian state after the elections)
You really think they would leave Georgescu alone if he was actually linked to a Russian misinformation campaign?
i mean yeah more participation doesn't necessarily mean more democracy, that's not where i was getting at. and i'm not offended by what you said, it is true, unfortunately.
Based on the latest polling data ahead of Romania’s presidential election on Sunday, May 4, 2025, the two candidates most likely to advance to the May 18 runoff are:
1- Simion : Leader of the far-right Alliance for the Unity of Romanians (AUR), currently leading in the polls with approximately 30.2% support. His platform emphasizes nationalism, skepticism toward the European Union, and opposition to military aid for Ukraine.
2- Antonescu : Former acting president and long-time political figure, backed by the Romania Forward Electoral Alliance (A.Ro), which includes the Social Democratic Party (PSD), the National Liberal Party (PNL), and the Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania (UDMR). Recent polls place him at around 24.3% support.
Close behind is Nicușor Dan, the current mayor of Bucharest, running as an independent with support from several centrist and reformist parties. He is polling at approximately 22.4%. While Dan has strong urban support and is a viable contender, current data suggest Antonescu is slightly more likely to secure the second runoff spot.
Aren’t Romanians tired of PSD and PNL already? Come on give new, honest faces a chance!
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If Romania is anything like my country, it's like this
as a romanian, i have absolutely no idea. the polls (which you can’t really trust anyway) tell us that it’s pretty much a tie between the three blue guys (around 20%) and the yellow guy is supposedly at over 30%. this suggests most of calin georgescu’s voters (the eliminated candidate that almost won last year) would go to george simion (yellow guy). we are not sure that is going to happen, maybe some would not vote, some might go with other ones. So I would say it’s anyone game right now. We don’t even know who wins against who in the round 2, so i feel i can’t predict anything which bothers me cause i like to know stuff, but it makes it more exciting (except for the fact that it’s about the faith of the country)
They're not. He's an ok administrator with 0 political chops and has never been more than a mayor. Our presidential office is predominantly a mediation and foreign affairs office. He will make a good prime minister one day (after some ministerial experience) but he'd do fuck all as a president.
Only the guys at the bottom are ethnic Romanians. The one on the top left is half jew, half gypsy and the guy on top right has albanian and italian origins.
From the looks of it it's going to be a battle between Nicușor Dan (bottom left) and Crin Antonescu (Bottom right)
It's going to be a close one and I hope that Nicușor wins, he did a lot in Bucharest and improved the city overall
as a kid that grows up in Romania personally I do not know but the only thing that I do wish is that George Simion and Crin Antonescu to not become president
Pray for us. There has been a continuous siege for the past months, years from external actors, a sustained effort from the corrupt politicians who have controlled the country for the past decades to stay in power and a calculated lack of investment in education. And with all that, there's still a chance for a sane candidate (not a perfect candidate as the whataboutists keep pushing) to get in the second round.
Sorry to say it, but this is such a useless place to ask, at such a useless time( tommorow will be the elections) and our national subreddits were FLOODED în the past months with questions regarding politics/elections. Make it stop atleast here please
Of course everybody is fond of who they are voting for..what kind of new bullshit this has become? After CG supporters were a thing it seems you can't be a supporter of anybody anymore without being a fanatic..all have their flaws and all lack in a certain areas, but absolute idealism and criticism means no candidate is really worthy of being president, thus meaning we should have none?
Really tense elections, feels like the political instability of the 2000s, which makes sense because two of these guys are from that era and should have stayed there.
Top left: wannabe dictator cunt that even the crazy shaman wouldnt endorse
Top right: political corpse that tries to leech onto MAGA in spite of that any rational in this country has not forgotten his career as prime minister
Bottom left: mayor of Bucharest, sort of an independet that has everyone bending over backwards for him. I don't like him but well, I'm not voting. Seems like a lesser mimicry of "meritocratic" leaders common in the Baltics or Sandu in Md but works with the establishment at the same time. Socially right wing, Pro Europe, pro NATO.
Bottom right: your grandmama's politician from 2009 that was an upset. Maybe Romania would be a different space if Antonescu got into the final round against Basescu or even won, but he didn't. Old dog that probably would make a decent prime minister to be honest (again, not my country just love opinions) but absolutely not a face for the future in any kind.
NOT PICTURED: woman from last election has a crazy hate boner with the mayor of Bucharest over party politics, as any centre right wingers in Romania would. If Nicusor Dan does not win and return to USR they are dead dead, which would be bad for the political ecosystem with alt rightism being so on the right and parties like PSD wanting to tip more right to appease these voters.
Overall, as a Moldovan very worried about Romanians and keeping my fingers crossed that they elect someone that will not utterly destroy the system. Last election (and also, Basescu 2) proved the system is very fragile and would struggle with removing a parasitic leader. It's down to Romanians rn to show up and vote for their future.
Top left and bottom left will get into the finals
Top left maybe has American support
Bottom has European support
If top wins they might seek to cancel the elections again
The diaspora who lives in hyper progressive countries exclusively votes for the top left one who is supposedly right wing and more critical of following all orders Romania receives for better or worst
Top left has american support :)))))))). Top left and bottom right has ruzzian support and Top right, well... he's just part of the same type that fkd romania until now.
I think Dan should win,bottom left,he has experience as mayor of bucharest,mathematician,professor at university level,seems to have his head screwed on well,common sense
realistically, for the first round, the winners will be George Simion (top left) and Crin Antonescu, the guy on the bottom right
the second round is difficult to estimate, it depends on the number of votes he gets in the first round
It's really, like REALLY close between top left bottom left and bottom right in the first round. Top left will prolly get into the second round but lose to whichever other candidate runs.
Top left wins the 1st round by far, there might not even be a 2nd round. Is overwhelmingly popular among young people, diaspora, the 30-50 bracket and rural/small urban population and their electorate is enraged by the previous round of elections being canceled.
Top right's electorate has been all but lost to top left. Has some support from old people but that's it
Bottom right's electorate has been all but lost to bottom left; and their party was utterly decimated in the cancelled round of elections. He has some support from the dwindling class of centrists but that's about it
Bottom left's candidate is Reddit's favourite but highly unpopular nationwide. He is theoretically independent but overtly supported by a party that has had 2 schisms in the past 6 months(even before the schisms being an unpopular party)
Invisible candidate is Elena Lasconi who lost favour with her party despite being more viable to the general public than the alternative(bottom left)
If there is a second round top left dude wins it again. The mainstream cannot make a coalition powerful enough to oppose it unless they rally around bottom right and the (now sidelined) Elena Lasconi(and even then it's debatable how many chances they would have)
It's almost impossible for there not to be a 2nd round. Simion would need 50%+1 of all people eligible to vote, not just votes. At our voting participation rates, he would need close to 100% of this weekend's vote.
romanians will lose, thats 100%. americans decided romanians are too dumb so they sent a team to supervise the elections. romanians were dumb enough to allow them.
Hard to tell at this point, all of them have pretty solid chances to get into the 2nd tour.
Top left will be voted by half of Calin Georgescu's supporters, right-wingers who are against the current system and by the working-class diaspora.
Top right will get massive support from a good part of the country's elders (the most viewed tv news channel is aggresively shilling for this guy because he's besties with the owner of this channel, who's among Europool's 'most wanted' due to several high-profile corruption cases and is currently living in Serbia lmao) as well as some of Calin Georgescu's former supporters.
Bottom left is majorly preferred by reddit, the upper middle class and the educated part of the population/diaspora in general. He's the only choice that doesn't 100% guarantee a horrible scenario for this country's future.
Bottom right is the establishment's man, a guy who came back on the public stage out of nowhere after living off his wife for 10 years in Belgium lol. They're trying their best to promote him everywhere.
George Simion (top left) is the objectively good option for Romania.
We are on the verge of bankruptcy and Nicusor Dan (bottom left) is a weak-willed "leader" that will only bend as the wind blows.
He did more for the capital than the last 5 candidates. He showed them how something is done.
He has always got criticism, and he managed himself pretty well.
George Simion refused to go on one debate because he knew his paper tiger act is onky for show, and in a real debate, he would fold like like toilet paper.
If you are a strong, independent leader then why not show up and prove yourself?
Everyone is saying that these elections in Romania aren't important and that they will get cancelled again.
Guy, Romania just lost the chance to travel visa free to USA for business and tourism yesterday because of these damn elections.
We lost so much built trust in press, in freedom, in democracy because we stood up for transparency and democratic values. (Say what you will about Freedoms and choices. When the canceled elections happened, the frontrunner? No one who wasn't on TikTok knew that guy. He was shaddy as F and had very strong ties to Russia)
These elections were also very influenece by Russia, too. With hackers and clone sites spreading missinformation.
These elections are going to pass whether the winner is the European candidate ( Bottom left ), the Old System's candidate ( Bottom Right ), the New System's candidate ( Top Right ) or the Populist Anti-European Candidate ( Top Left ).
Buy whoever wins will have a heck of a long time picking up the pieces after these elections.
Not everyone is going to be happy. And God knows what comes after.
But take these elections as an example of what to expect from elections from now on. There is something very wrong when the new generation like Simion (top left) likely tje youngest of the candidates is more populist than the old generation.
If your new generation is more extremist then the last, then the political direction of the West is not going in the right direction.
In lower democracies, a charismatic leader with power always wins dude. Poor people loves them, they feel power.
Sadly I am a Turkish guy who watches the same story over and over again with Erdogan…
Top left. Why? He has the votes of the last "Mesiah", he promoted heavinly to old people and people with no education that works abroad.
He refused to participare in any debate and was very quiet this election because he know he sucks in real life and he has it in the bag.
He will almost definitely win the first round, but it's hard for me to believe he will win the second round. I believe he has maximum 40-45% of voters.
Not to mention that he will have to attend debates, because I don't think he has any chance of winning the second round if he doesn't. In the debates there are many things he has to answer to: illegal letters sent to millions of people for instance. It will be interesting.
Nicusor Dan (Bottom-Left) is the only "good" canidate, imo, not corrupt, competent, very intelligent, but lacks charisma, and is not good at communicating.
Crin Antonescu (Bottom-Right) would be my second choice, from them, he was part of the old guard, with some shady dealings, nepotism, but a good speaker, also very intelligent, he is the establishment's candidate.
Victor Ponta (Upper-Right) a very good liar, he would be the embodiment of a snake, also part of the old guard, more corrupt than Antonescu, opportunistic, declared Trumpist, as he had met with Donald Trump, also buddy buddy with Eric Trump.
George Simion (Upper-Left) my least favourite of the four, very right wing, if not far-right, a chameleon, he will do anything to gain votes, if that requires to support Calin Georgescu (the guy who won the first round, last year, but the elections got cancelled and he got banned from running now, actual pro-Russia, far-right), so be it, if that requires to ferment hate towards minorities, so be it, if that requires to do calls for violence, so be it, he has no morals.
Only this KING, when Twinks are safe Europe is safe!!
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