Why are so many switching to Linux lately?
Posted by Laptican@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 1371 comments
As the title states, why are so many switching, is it just better than Windows? I have never used Linux (i probably will do it in the future) so i don't know what the whole fuzz is about it. I would really love to get some insight as to why people prefer it over Windows.
PixelBrush6584@reddit
I’d wager PewDiePies recent video where he shows it off has something to do with it.
GasLittle1627@reddit
Cant say it does. I believe PewDiePie rides the hype. I think that after the introduction of Copilot people flocked away from microsoft mainly cause they lost even more of control over theire own system.
This was happening allready since I gues introduction of Windows 10. Yet now it keeps getting worse and worse pushing the people who arent aligned with windows anymore over the edge to go try Linux.
PewDiePie is just one of those people who known of these issues and rather found it to much trouble to switch. Yet probebly with the introduction of Copilot found it impossible to further ignore it.
ozone6587@reddit
He set the hype, didn't ride it. Come on, he put out a video and 40 articles got published about his Linux experience.
As if Copilot would be the last straw for people who normally didn't know about Linux. That's just reddit echo chamber thinking. It's much more believable a Youtube video sparked interest rather than a sudden interest in data privacy.
pcikel-holdt-978@reddit
I'm just waiting for a native Linux graphics API, before I make the move over completely.
Ok_Awareness5517@reddit
He didn't se the hype bro. D1 meat rider right there
yung_dogie@reddit
Idc about whether he did or not but I just wanted to say it's whiplash seeing gen z speak in here lmao I feel like I type 2x as formal usually on this sub
ozone6587@reddit
I have never watched a single Pewdipie video. But I don't live under a rock or think Reddit represents reality lol
Ok_Awareness5517@reddit
Literally never implied that second part. Are you regarded?
I_M_NooB1@reddit
For now, you are the one sounding like one.
mina86ng@reddit
I doubt that. If he was just riding the hype, he wouldn’t have a deeply customised Linux desktop. He also installed Linux months before he made video about it.
baronas15@reddit
99% of Linux users don't rice as much as he did. People learning about grep and systemd-analyze from PDP was not on my bingo this year
DeliciousIncident@reddit
AI kinda made Linux more accessible, as you can easily get answers on how to do X, fix Y, rice Z, and it can even generate config files or scripts for you.
AyimaPetalFlower@reddit
he used systemd-analyze wrong he was supposed to use critical-chain not analyze
GasLittle1627@reddit
Well ride the hype might be the wrong way of saying it.
I meant it more as being someone who has had the issues as stated yet only now made the switch with others that Windows gone to far. Not to say he saw people make the switch and thinking Ow I can make a vid about it. Not at all like that
AndyGait@reddit
The work he put into that laptop rice is ridiculous. He's spent hours on that.
zaphodism@reddit
My reason for switching exactly, I'm on Windows 11 but every other update there's some new feature that I'm supposed to accept, Copilot, Recall blah blah. I wanted control of my computer again.
RazDoStuff@reddit
I applied to an international Linux company, and the interviewer was a cool, fun Swedish guy so it kinda reminded me of PewDiePie. I ended up switching to Linux anyways a few weeks ago and then PewDiePie came out with that video and it immediately confirmed I made the right decision.
CaptainTomato21@reddit
That swedish influencer is the worst possible advice.
swedes are not fun anyways.
Darkhog@reddit
Swedish guy literally made the most fun game of the past decade that recently got a movie.
CaptainTomato21@reddit
Never seen anything like that. It takes really low end mindset to follow that clown.
Darkhog@reddit
You haven't seen Minecraft?
CaptainTomato21@reddit
That sounds influencers for low iq people.
cjdubais@reddit
WTF is a "PewDiePies"?
PixelBrush6584@reddit
He’s a YouTuber. He became rather popular in the 2010s as a LetsPlayer, currently sitting at 110 Million Subscribers. In recent years he’s moved away from the mass-produced slop/drama and over to more personal content, such as showcasing his first computer build, his move to Japan and now his Linux setup.
cjdubais@reddit
Ok.
Thanks.
Interesting moniker....
PixelBrush6584@reddit
Usernames are weird! ‘Tis the fun of the internet, haha.
TheOtherRetard@reddit
...
yeah
I really should stop using this one
MySpaceLegend@reddit
Only if you pronounce it with a hard R
DoucheEnrique@reddit
I dunno ... looks fine to me.
AyimaPetalFlower@reddit
It's pretty good
goldbloodedinthe404@reddit
That's a really funny part of old YouTubers. The OGs made these channels sometimes like a decade and a half ago when they were still teenagers, but are still known by that moniker. It's like a permanent tattoo from your cringe phase.
Creative_Doughnut_49@reddit
He's a YouTuber. Was extremely famous until a few years ago
Darkhog@reddit
Extremely famous is an understatement. He was literally the biggest channel on the platform.
PsyOmega@reddit
What happened a few years ago? Was he one of the youtubers caught chatting with underaged girls?
baronas15@reddit
He stopped YouTube and now just enjoys life. Unlike other top YouTubers who make crypto scams just for profits
EducatorSad1637@reddit
Feels like a backhanded callout to Mr Beast and I love it lmao.
Bran04don@reddit
Lol no. He emigrated to Japan and stopped doing youtube as a career and now just mostly creates vlogs of his new life.
crakked21@reddit
“PewDiePie’s”, the works biggest content creator up until 2019~?
Terrible-Hornet4059@reddit
World's biggest jackass.
crakked21@reddit
What are you even on about buddy
Ok_Awareness5517@reddit
The racism and the fact that he still hangs around other alt-right people
crakked21@reddit
Racism? Alt-right? Are you okay?
Hot_Fisherman_1898@reddit
Idk about the alt right thing, but he dropped an n-bomb during a game of pub-g like 10 years ago. Idk if there are any other examples.
PabloHonorato@reddit
He isn't American, and the n-word thing is only for the US. Stop the US defaultism, the rest of the world doesn't have to pay for your history of racism.
Hot_Fisherman_1898@reddit
The n-word is a racial slur in the English language. Has nothing to do with US citizenship/residency/birthplace.
The Oxford English Dictionary is published by the Oxford College in the UK, which, among other things, is notably, not the United States.
crakked21@reddit
It was a huge thing back then and he apologized a lot and reformed. watch him today, hes (been for a long time) no longer immature
Hot_Fisherman_1898@reddit
Oh I have no problem with him that I’m aware of. There are a lot of bigger POS fish to fry out in the world. A ten year old slip up in a video game is a nothing burger.
Ok_Awareness5517@reddit
Is HE okay?
palibard@reddit
Does he still hang around alt right people? I know he was alt-right about 10 years ago, but it seemed like he grew out of it. Or just hid it after the Christchurch murderer name dropped him.
Terrible-Hornet4059@reddit
Go watch his videos, with the eye of a decent human being, then you'll see what we're "on about". He's on the lower tier of human beings on YouTube.
Jeklah@reddit
Some idiot streamer that everyone loved a number of years ago, then he disappeared for reasons I don't care about, and now he's made himself popular again by showing himself using Arch Linux and looking like he knows what he's doing.
Tommh@reddit
What? None of these things are true. He didn’t disappear, and he didn’t suddenly show up by showing himself using linux.
Jeklah@reddit
I can't think of the last thing he did before he reappeared from using Linux tbqh.
lo0u@reddit
You.
You are not the center of the universe.
Jeklah@reddit
Lol very apt of you to notice.
noXi0uz@reddit
wow you sound miserable
lo0u@reddit
Insufferable. The type of people no one likes to be around of.
Sure_Nefariousness91@reddit
He's more than an idiot streamer for me. He's an idiot streamer that had a part in my childhood lol
Jeklah@reddit
That's ok, we all watched a lot of stupid shit growing up. It's part of growing up.
zenz1p@reddit
Posting on arr/ketamine arr/drugs and arr/lonely but surely it's important to re-evaluate one's enjoyment of a youtuber lol
Jeklah@reddit
Sure is. Re-evaluation of ones self is part of growing up.
Never been one for watching specific youtubers to be honest. Watched a fair amount of day9 videos...but then again I still watch his stuff now and then. Good stuff doesn't age!
zenz1p@reddit
Used to watch quite a bit of Day9 too. Good memories
Jeklah@reddit
The video of him explaining the joke about micro never fails to have me in stiches every single time.
"If the quarter was in that hand, that'd be micro..." and he just dies laughing at the stupidity of the joke lmfao.
Also, not sure if you've watched any of his more recent stuff? But his playthrough of Baldurs Gate 3 has one of his all time funniest moments ever.
"Boy, Larian sure has some creative confidence with this character..."
zenz1p@reddit
That's absolutely hilarious. I might go down the Day9 rabbit hole. One of the few dudes who consistently cracked me up. Not sure why I've stopped watching him honestly. Suppose I'm just getting bitter and grumpy...
Jeklah@reddit
Going back to day 9 clips, mostly the bg3 guardian and the micro joke always cheer me up....but LOL yeah it's absolutely hilarious...
"These grey lips and cotton candy pink hair...some real creative confidence!.... Oh wait what I made this character?!"
Loooool he will never live that down.
cjdubais@reddit
LOL!
There are a lot of "idiot streamers" nowadays.
Sorry to hijack the thread
Jeklah@reddit
These days there are yeah.
Back when he started, he was one of the first.
CasualCreation@reddit
Hmm, interesting. I haven't actively watched him since about the early 2010s, I recently watched his We bought land in Japan video and love his life! I check in to old channels I use to watch from time to time.
Is there a particular video, or era of pewds that I missed where this was a thing?
Darkhog@reddit
The two Linux videos are the one where he made a gaming pc and where he shows off Linux (the most recent one, right after the buying land one)
Jaredchin@reddit
I work at an electronics retail store in the Netherlands and I’ve had several people come in asking about Linux and mentioning that they got into because of PewDiePie so I do think that is quite a large factor in this recent wave
PixelBrush6584@reddit
I’ve seen so many new posts across various subreddits citing PewDiePie as their reason to consider it now.
yung_dogie@reddit
I'm honestly a little surprised by it. I know he still has a big following, but I wouldn't expect most people to follow through with switching OSes. I'm much more used to seeing a lot more (understandable) inertia on these things even if their favorite content creators pitch Linux.
janicejolpin@reddit
Im installing mint on my laptop this weekend when i get some time because of the pewdiepie vid.
CouchMountain@reddit
Not sure if he mentioned it in his video, but try it out on a VM first and make sure you can get it down. Then do it on your actual hardware once you're comfortable.
Mo-Chill@reddit
Welcome to the community. Enjoy
besseddrest@reddit
This is when I burn Linux on a CD and start selling
ILoveTolkiensWorks@reddit
"During a Linux rush, be the one selling the install CDs"
- Richard M. Stallman, The Art of FOSS
gotbletu@reddit
GNU/Linux
ILoveTolkiensWorks@reddit
"Be the one selling Alpine CDs so that noone can correct you"
besseddrest@reddit
"Be the side hustle you wish to see in the world."
thejuva@reddit
The Art of Deal
Cry_Wolff@reddit
What year is it?
besseddrest@reddit
its the year i finally find a way to get rid of my blank CDs
DoubleDareFan@reddit
Check the size of the Linux install package before buying blank CDs. It might be too large. This is the case with Ubuntu. You will need DVDs
Happy Cake Day!
besseddrest@reddit
hah omg, i didn't even think about this. I forget how much data you could store on a cd
electromage@reddit
I have no idea what that is, so it's probably correct.
CaptainTomato21@reddit
He is the reason why I switched back to windows 11. I installed some software to remove all telemetry and it is as fast as linux.
astryox@reddit
James lee videos is great too
PixelBrush6584@reddit
True. Though that was more targeted at the creative landscape, not gamers.
EducatorSad1637@reddit
James Lee also helped push Linux too for artists. You can add Adobe for one of the reasons people pack their bags.
Rekuna@reddit
That and Windows 10 EoL are probably huge factors.
hy2cone@reddit
People got to thank you MS for EOL their Win10 and buggy Win11. I seriously believe some traitors are working in MS helping to drive people into Linux.
bawng@reddit
He should work as an influencer the way he be influencing people!
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
That video is not even cold yet, but there was momentum already.
besseddrest@reddit
the sound of keyboards clacking is deafening as new users draft their support posts for r/archlinux
jerrydberry@reddit
Need a chatbot which would point users to the arch wiki page that they did not read.
foreverdark-woods@reddit
It's correct what others have written, but I wouldn't overestimate the number of people switching to Linux. Those recently very vocal about their switch to Linux aren't really representative of the general population, mostly tech or tech-adjacent people. The OS market share shows it very clearly: while the share of Linux is rising slowly, it's still somewhere at 3-4%.
venamifurgoneta@reddit
It’s free, local, private and much more secure. I have ubuntu in 2 old laptops I use as HTPC/tailscale/CCTV servers. I had to restart one of them 7 months ago for a touch screen glitch, an old ACER tablet from 2017, on the other hand my 2014 ish Lenovo G400 Celeron 1005m has not been restarted for over 2 years, and when I did, was only for cleaning the cooling, very responsive with ubuntu and that is not even a light weight distro.
I have windows 11 on my company laptop, But on everithing else I use ubuntu, even gaming.
No_Run8254@reddit
because they are bored or are idiots :shrug
inquisition-musician@reddit
Mainly because Microsoft became greedy and desperate.
Creating more e-waste because newer hardware doesn't sell wery well. But the older ones work just fine.
And also PewDiePie, along with Valve making Linux more vialable option because of this. If I'll make enough money, I'm switching to Mac because I can't live without Ableton and Pro Tools while my older PC will act as a Linux file server.
HuaweiP8Lite4G@reddit
microsoft is killing win10 and win11 is a spyware and run terrible on laptops
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Windows 11 is not spyware. You might want to use another word. It also runs perfectly fine on laptops.
Mannster62@reddit
I just came back to Linux after 5 years on Macs. Somehow my AppleID got hosed so went back to Linux and a DIY ecosystem.Should have done this a long time ago - Linux runs great on Apple hardware!
Own_Book_2770@reddit
dont know
Shot_Rent_1816@reddit
Windows needs to be rebuilt from scratch
Perfect-Albatross908@reddit
I use Nobara Linux. it’s Fedora-based, fast, up-to-date with latest technologies and stable, Gaming and multimedia ready. Works great right out of the box and easy to use with point and click. I use the Update System to update the system and Nobara Package Manager to install apps.
Geraldo042591@reddit
My PC is a Pentium R dual core 64bit x64, 4 GB of RAM with Windows 10 Pro, PC works wonders, here comes Microsoft asking us to migrate to the new Windows but we have to change the hardware, I'm out, Microsoft and Apple just want to make money by making us change hardware, I'm going to put Linux lite on the PC.
Lucky-Ad-4198@reddit
i made an os and app via pwa
tabrizzi@reddit
Windows 11 and other Microsoft shenanigans.
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
Win 10 EOL is a big one
asdonne@reddit
Windows 10 EOL combined with Windows 11 requiring new hardware means people are left with computers that can't run windows 10 or 11.
Combined with a lot of tools being only now makes it much easier to switch.
GlassDeviant@reddit
You don't actually need new hardware, just have to modify your installer to not do the TPM and secure boot checks (and whatever other options you choose).
Outrageous-Ranger-61@reddit
That's me you're describing. I switched about a month ago because of Win10 is being phased out, and my hardware is not supported by Win11. So far Linux Mint has been waaaaaay better than both Windows and my expectations. I would actually argue Linux Mint is easier than windows in many ways. And now that gaming works so good under Linux, I'm not going back for anything. Don't miss anything from Windows so far. It feels great to run 99% open source as a bonus.
Happy01Lucky@reddit
I have had the same experience. I found mint was much easier to install than windows is now. And no email address or accounts or phone numbers.
Double_Designer@reddit
I switched to mint and my games just didnt feel as smooth. the FPS counter said it was but the smoothness was gone. I had to go back to windows and my games just worked. I would love to not be on windows but gaming is what I do and I dont even mind tinkering but the tinkering I did never fixed the problems I was having.
Outrageous-Ranger-61@reddit
Once I got familiar with Proton and Lutris, and also the proprietary nvidia-drivers, it runs smooth as butter. If anything they run better on Mint. But as with anything, your mileage may vary depending on your hardware. Most games works out of the box for me, but sometimes I have to change the proton version for some specific games. And again, I highly recommend using Lutris as a front end! Good luck!
(I have an Nvidida 1060 card, and an old i7 cpu... )
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
It is so stupid that millions of otherwise capable computers are being rendered useless because of Microsoft’s policies.
DHOC_TAZH@reddit
Sadly, most tech simply becomes obsolete... "planned obsolescence" is a thing. Systems like Linux and FreeBSD reduce that obsolescence somewhat, but it still happens in those sectors.
32 bit PCs are no longer officially supported in either OS, but on the Linux side there are some distros that try to keep these machines running.
randylush@reddit
Microsoft claims that a computer from like 2017 is obsolete just because it doesn’t have a TPM
I would argue that for 90% of people, a computer from 2010 is still perfectly functional today. Most people just watch videos and surf the web. A Core 2 Quad can do that very easily.
The real reason Microsoft isn’t incentivized to keep these computers supported is because their revenue model depends on people buying new computers. They might have some moral obligation to avoid creating a mountain of unsupported e waste, but financially they are not incentivized at all to keep these things alive.
Apple is going to run into the same problem too. Hardware is just too good nowadays and it’s not really getting better. Consumers aren’t going to care to upgrade.
nindza22@reddit
I animate and edit 4k videos on first gen i7 (2008 cpu).
Apple actually made the CPUs worth upgrading (M1, M2, M3, M4). They outperform PCs on a single core, and consume electricity like a lightbulb.
shawnischatting@reddit
Eh, I wouldn’t say they outperformance PCs with similar price tags lol
nindza22@reddit
True, Mac is much cheaper in that regard. Remember, I'm talking about tasks that require raw single core power, not casual/rendering/games.
My brother opened 2 years ago a Cubase (music) project with around 160 channels with various effects on, on then actual i5, 32 GB RAM, rx 580 8 GB, and then compared it with the weakest M1 Macbook (8GB RAM and 256 GB storage).
PC used 100% resources and started struggling, Mac used around 53% resources, not breaking a sweat (just consider the difference in PSU as well!). I saw it with my own eyes.
He switched to Mac and never looked back. Mac's M chip performance is beyond comparison with anything PC. Not to mention the power consumption (which you didn't took into consideration as a cost, and also the price of software).
So, video production, music production, where you need the "real time" power is owned by Mac. Games and 3D rendering is owned by Nvidia GPUs.
shawnischatting@reddit
It depends of what the i5 was. What model and generation? 32gb of ram doesn’t really mean much for music production, as unless you have a shit ton of windows open it’s not being used lol. Also a GPU doesn’t help much either all it does is render the screen. The main reason the performance was better on Mac is because it has a way better (and more expensive) cpu. I make music Ik how it is
nindza22@reddit
Exactly, that was what I was talking about - way better cpu. And that i5 configuration cost more (or about the same) than the cheapest Macbook, that is the point.
Macs are expensive, but in their "field of operations" the price to quality ratio is better than PC currently. While Macs were on Intel CPUs it wasn't really the case.
shawnischatting@reddit
You have to compare the specs correctly lol the m1 is an Octa-core cpu. If you find an i5 laptop with 8 core gpu it is around 2-300 dollars cheaper and has 16GB of ram and better graphics
randylush@reddit
Yes. I predict 10 years from now Apple will be a victim of their own success: nobody will want to upgrade from an M1.
WokeBriton@reddit
Apple marketing people are too good for that to happen.
Evidence for this is the sheer number of apple phone owners who just "have to" get the latest phone as soon as it launches because the 1 months old one is simply not good enough any more.
In the world of marketing designed to make people spend lots of money on things they don't really need, apple marketing department are very much near the top.
LindsayOG@reddit
My only PC I have here (Mac guy) is a Core 2 Quad laptop. It still does what I need it to do just fine.
shawnischatting@reddit
Yeah I mean any halfway decent 4 core processor and like 8gb of ram will run most web apps smoothly
Suspicious-Ad7109@reddit
Outside the geekery like me, AFAICS most people browse the internet, look at emails, use social media.
That leaves two groups. Gamers and the 'Specific software' group. Gamers will be more and more catered to because of the Steam Deck running Arch.
Which leaves people who *have* to use Windows because their product isn't available on Linux. There are plenty of these, but not as many as Microsoft think, and some of them will live with Win10 anyway in the same way they didn't upgrade NT4, XP or 7 until forced to.
MaleficentMess9115@reddit
Microsoft needs to understand the consumer needs. They are always in a rush to try new stuff, leaving behind unsettled brilliant ideas
feitfan82@reddit
I doubt they earn that much from computer sales. Cloud and that jazz.
shawnischatting@reddit
It reduces onsolescence by ALOT, I have a laptop that was borderline e-waste, like I’m talking can barely watch 480p YouTube, but I setup Debian with joes window manager on it and just make it really light and use lightweight web browser like Falkon, and now can easily watch 1080p YouTube 60fps relatively smoothly, and can even play light games like terraria and beta versions of Minecraft, Counter Strike Source, G-Mod all of which run consistently 60fps
DHOC_TAZH@reddit
How old is your laptop? The oldest ones I own are from 2012. I'm running Lubuntu LTS and fydeOS in one, and another dual boots AntiX and GhostBSD.
shawnischatting@reddit
It’s a travelmate b118-m, not super old
TactikalKitty@reddit
Luckily, I still have a few old CDs of Peppermint, Linux Mint 12 and even PcLinuxOS 32bit version for just in case.
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
I’ve got a little Gateway LT21 netbook from 2009 that hums along with Linux Mint. It’s no speed demon, but it works well for what it is (Atom N450, 2GB, SSD). There’s no way this machine would still be functional with any version of Windows. I keep it around as a hobby, tinkering computer. Still love the form-factor.
ragsofx@reddit
I found Intel atom cpus were very under powered for even Windows XP. Linux was always a better option. I had an hp mini back in the day that I loved, battery life was great and paired with a capable cell phone for Internet it was perfect for ssh from anywhere!
WolverineDK@reddit
Heck I used to upload to a drivers project (which later became VOGONS Vintage Driver Library) via an intel atom laptop with 1 GB of ram, and running Linux :-)
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Yep. I used to tether my BlackBerry to it for access. At the time, it was glorious. 😂
pearljamman010@reddit
I have an Acer Aspire One with the exact specs. Atom N450 (1.66GHz HT), 2GB DDR2, and a 128GB SSD. AntiX runs like a dream on it and at boot, it's barely using 100MB RAM. FF still works on it and it can play 480P video with some mild stutters occasionally. It's just a cool toy at this point but I don't want to get rid of it lol
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Exactly. I can’t get rid of it!
Narishma@reddit
NetBSD still runs on 486 machines.
mofomeat@reddit
486? NetBSD has been dying for four decades. There's no way it's installed on 486 computers. I bet it's only running on 48 computers!
/s
Snoo44080@reddit
I guess it becomes an argument of whether its worthwhile to keep those machines running. Loads of machines are definitely worthwhile running that microsoft are looking to shut out, but my laptop from 2005 with a solid 2 minutes of charge on it, that draws 100W base load...??? Is it really worth supporting that architecture, UI interface etc...
Medical machines? 100% but most of these run offline, on the original OS that they came with, they generally die because of hardware failure or inability to get replacement parts, not software issues. It's also not especially hard to get old software running on newer machines...
nindza22@reddit
No, no, Linux just a few days ago made 386 and 486 machines obsolete.
ArrayBolt3@reddit
Minor correction, there are distros that still support 32-bit PCs in 2025, Void Linux being my distro of choice in that regard. That being said, 32-bit Intel-based computing isn't practical for probably most of the people here given that opening a web browser on a 32-bit system and doing anything useful with it in 2025 is one of the bests tests of patience that exist. The only distros that still actively support 32-bit systems are also relatively niche nowadays. Even distros that support 32-bit Intel-based CPUs usually require a more advanced one (Pentium 4 generally), but if you want to go older than that, lots of software will still compile for older CPUs, including the Linux kernel (which can STILL run on an i486, and once they finally manage to drop support for it, you'll still be able to use an LTS kernel).
Yes, hardware obsolecense is a thing even with Linux, but it's painfully extraordinarily horribly ridiculously slow, and as it happens you can usually work around it with increasing amounts of effort, if you're that determined to. In practice, the work you do will probably have obsoleted your hardware long before Linux does.
Exciting-Emu-3324@reddit
Recently installed CrawfishOS on an old 32bit ARM C201p Chromebook. In any case, websites are only getting heavier and more bloated. Being 32bit ARM, there isn't too much more it can do stock and the webcam isn't even supported with last update in 2021. Ongoing support requires human effort; the fact there was a Linux distro available at all was more than anyone could ask for. You would think that with everything on the cloud, Chromebooks would practically last forever, but for something underpowered even when new; it was only a matter of time.
dwitman@reddit
If you can apply power to it and control the code running on it nothing is ever truly obsolete….it might take a high level of skill, but you can still do a lot with an old school iPod, because like any mechanical system if you apply electricity to the motor it has no choice but to run.
Look at what Cuba has done to lengthen the life of their vehicle since they can’t buy new due to international politics…
Some tech is harder to jailbreak than others, and you can’t force developers to continue to support your old tech in major distros…but if you can hack to a certain level you can avoid forced obsolescence to a large extent.
Corporations and devs cutting support always sucks, but generally where there is a will there is a way.
Though you might have to wait a decade for some rando hacker to jailbreak the device you want to run…and it will probably end up recycled at best, shredded and returned to the earth leaking mercury and lead at worst.
Still…the motherfuckers want to take everything, but the laws of physics say they can’t.
plg94@reddit
While you're not wrong and much tech is not made to last nowadays, but imo 32bit is a really bad example. It's not like they purposly decided to go smaller than they needed to in the 90s, just so they can force you to an upgrade in 2010ish.
wolfefist94@reddit
It's a feature, not a bug
frn@reddit
It is a feature, but it should have been optional.
Blu3Gr1m-Mx@reddit
Work windows personal Linux
kalaine@reddit
Since 2008. Work Win 7 .. 10 .. & now 11 on a standalone box and a VDI setup too..... Personal I have Win 10 now for gaming only. Thankfully Linux is making bigger strides everyday. Win 11 will never grace any of my personal hardware.
Xak34@reddit
I’m doing the same and my life has been better for it
jcb2023az@reddit
What distro ?
Blu3Gr1m-Mx@reddit
Mint
Sedated_cartoon@reddit
A fun question we would never be able to ask Windows users, haha. I use fedora btw
SilentLennie@reddit
That has been my reality for 20 years, with the last 5 or so being all Linux. A large part of my job was working with Linux servers anyway.
quiyo@reddit
same here
mpickerd24@reddit
Many leaving because A.I. - (Co-Pilot)
rushedone@reddit
Similar situation.
My 2020 laptop was upgraded to 11 without my knowledge so I decided to switch to a M3 MacBook Air for school and I am planning on installing Linux on my old 2012 MacBook Pro 💻
technofiend@reddit
And if you really need Windows 11 for some reason, you can spin up a VM in Parallels just long enough to do whatever and then shut it down again. Buying Parallels costs more than an ARM Win 11 license purchased online.
Independent_Cell6959@reddit
Can we connect desktop hardware like a GPU and storage to a VM and vice versa?
technofiend@reddit
Not sure about both directions, but you can share external devices inward to the VM. I don't have an external GPU so no clue of that's true of them as well. Macs don't have discrete GPUs.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I think my only concern would be able to play certain games. I don't know how exactly it is but i heard there are some games you can't play.
ZeddyZeke@reddit
Likely 90% of the games you can play on it due to Valve's investment through the last decade.
This is simple. You have to leave behind something in order to change to linux. It's not linux fault, it's the change itself. For games, I would say that 90%(not a factual percentage) of the games that have Anti-cheat, you'll not be able to play. You have very good examples of Microsoft paying for a game to leave linux, such as Rust from facepunch, and lately Apex Legends. Both has Anti-cheat and you could run it on linux, not anymore because they decided to let linux users out of their games. About Rust, you can still play on servers that don't have Anti-cheat turned on.
Adobe software? Forget it. There are ways to use it but you shouldn't rely on that if you really need Adobe.
You can check on protondb if your games run on linux. You can even install an extenion on your browser, and everytime you're on a game's steam page, it will give you information about the state of it on linux. Though, there are many games which says it's supported, but it's not. And the opposite too. I recommend you to check the last reports of it to be sure before you have a decision. For example, Apex received alot of positive reports for years, but since October 2024(or so) they disable Anti-cheat use for linux users as I said before. It's full or negative reports, but it states it's "Gold" on linux.
Sorry for the big text and for bad english.
rushedone@reddit
Thank god they finally updated GIMP
Specialist-Piccolo41@reddit
Microsoft has a habit of making their products obsolete. Going subscription is now deadlu
docsunset@reddit
I can vouch that linux goes great on a 2012 MacBook Pro. My first switch to linux was a mid-2012 that I had specced up to the max when I purchased it and upgraded a few times over the years. It runs Arch+DWM as smoothly as can be. If not for troubles with the battery and power supply I would still be happily daily driving it.
rushedone@reddit
Cool. I was planning on changing the battery 🪫 so hopefully that won’t be a issue.
Also the RAID upgrade sounds pretty cool.
Top_Imagination_3022@reddit
How exactly without your knowledge it happened? Is that a feature?
rushedone@reddit
I believe it occurred because I leave it on overnight a lot
gnufan@reddit
If it was optional no one would buy a new PC, Microsoft is deep in with the PC manufacturers. That said I think outside of gaming that PCs are starting to die as a concept, I've started to see regular folk get a keyboard for their iPad or similar.
Similarly those who laughed at ChromeOS are now trying to figure out how to save to their SSD rather than to OneDrive in Windows 11.
Hell I've been in IT 30mumble years and I can't configure the screenlock how I want in Windows 11, I've found the three groups of screenlock and screensaver settings it definitely isn't - ffs Microsoft - I can see some registry editing in my future.
Of course this isn't necessarily good for freedom, if people just don't want Windows to be an overcomplicated and overpriced version of ChromeOS with ectra ads and spyware built-in. The sole selling point for a lot of folks is it runs the full fat version of Excel.
580083351@reddit
IMO Microsoft should make and sell the full version of Excel for Linux. They can probably duplicate some of the codebase layout from the MacOS version.
I'm ok with paying for a quality product like Excel (IF the price was reasonable aka ballpark of game prices.)
elephant-cuddle@reddit
Apple are still doing security updates compatible with iPhone 7, a 10 year old phone.
580083351@reddit
Might be out of necessity because a lot of people in the third world probably use older devices and don't care if it's not being updated anymore. I have an iPhone X here that I was gifted. It's completely usable for everything except heavy-duty gaming.
nindza22@reddit
I am probably switching to Apple. I have the first generation i7 (that's a 2008. cpu!) on which I make 4k videos, and although slower nowadays, it still serves pretty well. Paired with 3060 12 gb, beside the design and 3D work I am able to play Stalker 2 on ultra 1080p, or CP2077.
I also ran Win 11 on it via hack for a year, and it was just as fast as Win 10, but not all updates were available so I reverted to Win 10.
I cannot imagine what would be wrong with 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and every other subsequent generation of Intel, if a 17 year old CPU can pull it off perfectly.
Pure bullshit. I wanted to upgrade to 6th or 7th gen last year which are cheap now, but then they announced the bullshit about discontinuing Win 10.
I am NOT buying a 2000$ PC which consumes 1000w of power to gain - what? Burnt cables and shitty AAA games in 144Hz?
I'll switch to Mac Mini, which outperforms most PCs on a single core (meaning everything works better except games and 3D rendering), and it costs 600-700$ and consumes like 150w of power. Considering my monthly electricity bill is already around 150-200$, and half of it goes on PC it will actually save me a lot of money mid-term.
Secret_Wishbone_2009@reddit
Intel needs to sell more CPUs
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Intel needs to improve their CPUs. They’re waaaay behind Apple on this front.
techstoa@reddit
It's useful for recruiting new Linux users.
DanishWeddingCookie@reddit
Apple does it ALL THE TIME!
musiquededemain@reddit
Not the first time. M$ pulled that garbage during the Windows Vista release almost 20 years ago.
CapitalBlueberry4125@reddit
I switched to linux in 2010 because of windows vista and never looked back
musiquededemain@reddit
Awesome! I switched when XP was still dominant. My boss showed it to me over 20 years ago and I was blown away. Wanted to learn and use it more. Windows, IMO, was at its peak with Win2K Pro.
Sure_Bag_8631@reddit
Which is exactly why I wiped Windows 10 off my Lenovo Thinkpad T470 and installed Kubuntu, which runs faster on that machine. With 32GB ram and a 1TB NVMe hard drive, I saw no reason to throw out this perfectly capable computer just because Microsoft said I needed a new one for Windows 11. No way.
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
I have an ancient 3rd generation i5 Dell Inspiron laptop that still runs great. It’s not upgradable to Windows 11. In all seriousness, the machine may be old, but it is still plenty capable for everyday tasks. There is nothing it cannot do well. There is absolutely no reason why it can’t be upgraded.
Sure_Bag_8631@reddit
Microsoft blocked more than a few capable computers from running Windows 11. It made me a Linux convert. I just use the T470 as a daily driver for simple everyday tasks. For that it's perfect. I hear that the T470s can take up to 64GB Ram, but there's really no need, it purrs fine with 32GB.
flame-otter@reddit
Yet we pretend to care about the environment
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Speak for yourself, bud, but I do. I hang onto my machines and try to get as much use out of them as possible so they don’t end up in a landfill.
flame-otter@reddit
lol? This was not directed at you, rather to all the f*cking tech companies with their sustainability programs and promises about green tech and all the companies listening to it. Yet they turn a blind eye to this.
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
👍
KhalilSmack85@reddit
They don't really tell you this but a lot of computers will say they can't run windows 11 but can if you tweak some bios settings. At least that was the case for me. Also, I'm in the process of switching to Linux because of all the tracking and advertisement. I just want control over my computer to not be bombarded with pointless crap.
MaleBearMilker@reddit
What happened to Microsoft?
amiibohunter2015@reddit
I also don't like A.I. and recall feature in windows 11. Add in older PCs and some newer ones made in the last 3-5 years can't upgrade to windows 11 because of their marketing strategy is to gatekeep to force you to buy a new laptop or PC. The features packed in 11 I am not fond of nor do I like the Mac rip off user interface. It's like Microsoft, If I wanted a Mac, I would've bought a Mac, you're sending very clear signs to buy elsewhere.
IGnuGnat@reddit
This is why my wife asked me to wipe windows on her laptop. She's never had any interest before.
I will say that I've been using Linux for a quarter of a century, the question "why are so many switching to linux lately" just seems.... a little late but whatever the more the merrier
WikiSquirrel@reddit
Nothing happened. They were never not like this. They were even charged in 1998.
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Greed happened.
Kriss3d@reddit
Actually with Rufus you can make it not require TPM2.0 and lower the requirements. Even down to 4GB ram.
TRi_Crinale@reddit
Microsoft can block the workarounds that Rufus uses at any time. They already stopped telling people about them, so it's likely only a matter of time
hIXhnWUmMvw@reddit
It is not stupid it is organized crime.
Landscape4737@reddit
Or is it hundreds of millions?
Rd3055@reddit
It's greed. Microsoft is in cahoots with OEMs to get people to buy new machines.
elementfortyseven@reddit
I mean. I cant blame MS for the fact that my m68k based amiga and atari are not en vogue anymore. time may be relative, but it is also an unstoppable force
also, "rendered useless" is a bit strong. I will retain win10 on my gaming rig for the foreseeable future, as the Extended Security Updates Program for Win10 is 30 bucks per year, which is quite affordable imho for keeping the system secure past EoL. As someone who had to deal with a large number of Centos servers in recent past, im quite happy about that solution.
Opposite-Ice-1855@reddit
Fair enough. However, I think we can agree that this is all a cash-grab to get people to either pay up for support, or upgrade to W11 (which most people, myself included, don’t care for).
Hettyc_Tracyn@reddit
Then also, the spyware on W11…
g-unit2@reddit
millions of computers that can still be web browsing machines can’t even upgrade to Windows 11. it’s fucking absurd what microsoft is doing
DanishWeddingCookie@reddit
People with Mac's that are only a couple sku's older than current have the same problem... You can't install older versions of MacOS on new hardware and you can't update older hardware with a new OS.
Why does Microsoft get crapped on for the same thing?
MattOruvan@reddit
You mean before and after the switch to ARM64 from Intel x64? With the M1?
That's a major architecture change, nothing like MS' insistence on TPM 2. You might as well try to install Windows 7 on a Galaxy S25.
I'm not a fan.. scratch that.. I hate Apple, but they have a valid excuse unlike MS.
lungben81@reddit
Plus, due to Trump politics, there is a growing movement in Canada and the EU to reduce reliance on US products.
/r/buyfromeu
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
Ya and let's not forget how reluctant everybody was to switch over from Windows 7. Once again people are forced to "update" to an inferior product.
oskich@reddit
A lot of the hardware that is running Windows 10 still runs great with everyday tasks. The need to upgrade is much smaller today compared to the Windows 7 days.
BrokenLoadOrder@reddit
I mean, I still run Windows 7 as my main. What few things can't run on it, I run on Linux. Covers all but the tiniest fraction of things.
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
It will be when driver support is eventually dropped.
oskich@reddit
Linux has been very good at supporting legacy hardware in the past, so switching from Windows 10 definitely will help.
Mordynak@reddit
Windows 10 always was superior to 7.
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
Cute opinion.
Mordynak@reddit
It's a fact.
Even if you just look at performance improvements. Windows 10 was better than 7. The difference is day and night.
I'm sorry you lost the fancy colours, gradients and rounded borders.
inevitabledeath3@reddit
It had better performance on modern machines that could deal with the increased overhead. On some older machines it was actually a lot slower, as while they did benefit from things like better scheduling in Windows 10, the increase in overhead overshadowed this. This was also similar when upgrading from XP to 7 or XP to 10. Better efficiency in some areas being overshadowed by increased overhead and bloat om weaker machines. Plus the way Microsoft did rolling release with Windows 10 was to ship basically a whole new OS every few months, and so it took forever on some machines to run updates.
Linux was better at both having low overhead and updating quickly while still having all the other speed benefits that cams with modern OSes in terms of efficiency. Linux file systems have also been more efficient than Windows ones since at least ext4 from 2006 - almost 2 decades now. Ext4 is especially well tuned for hard drives like older computers tended to have. Put all this together and you can see why Linux runs better on older hardware. The reason the overhead is so low by the way is because Linux systems are expected to work in very limited embedded environments. Obviously some Linux distros are much heavier, especially those that run on Gnome. Lighter options are available though even for desktop PCs.
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
That is factually incorrect but I'm not going to waste time on what looks like a ragebait.
Do better.
3141592652@reddit
Lots of people will stay on 10 even now ltse has got a couple more years. It'll be like xp all over again.
UntestedMethod@reddit
I've heard from a couple people that the windows 11 update was forced upon them
DonaldLucas@reddit
It wasn't exactly forced, what really happened was that when people were using their PCs a prompt suddenly appeared asking them to update in the next reboot and many people accepted it without realizing it. It was scummy, but people should have read it and properly not allowed to update (that's what I did).
CasualCreation@reddit
Well, when you have a good product that works there's no reason to change it.
Windows 10 is my favorite (been using Windows since Windows 98), then Windows 7, XP and 98 in order.
Antice@reddit
EOL means security guess out the window. You and your data is kept relative safe trough regular security updates. Those will stop now.
You are going to have to keep the machine offline or get hacked.
TRi_Crinale@reddit
Technically, users can buy security updates for a couple more years for $30 per year. So they can can stay secure but will probably give more money to M$ than they ever have
autumnjager@reddit
You can still run W10. Just mo updates.
JackDostoevsky@reddit
Windows 11 is also bafflingly bad. i'm forced to use it on my work laptop and not a day goes by that it doesn't do something that just annoys the hell out of me
but, i will say, in the year i've been on this job and have had to use this computer, i don't think it's crashed once, so it's got that going for it.
dwitman@reddit
It’s the fucking spying! Windows 11 is impossible to secure against MS using undocumented APIs to phone home and provide who the fuck ever with their best attempt at an accurate dream journal.
zoharel@reddit
Some of it's that, yes, and they're nice computers. I have one such laptop. CPU is unsupported in Windows 11. Benchmark still shows it as being quite decent, they just decided to draw the line for support in the wrong place. Of course, that has never mattered to me, but if I actually used Windows there, it would bother me.
lycan2005@reddit
Adding Windows recall and copilot into the mix might push those fence sitter to move over.
Mason_Miami@reddit
Someone bitched at me "Just buy the Enterprise edition to extend your Win10." after I told them I switched to Debian because of EOL.
(BTW as a new Linux convert I'M LOVING IT! I got my desktop arranged like I had WindowsXP back in the day which has been impossible in Win7 and Win10.)
flecom@reddit
I am genuinely curious how that person thinks you go about buying LTSC... 100% chance they bought a pirated copy off of ebay (lol) vs actually doing a volume license agreement with microsoft
SG_87@reddit
It's a grey-zone. Many big resellers buy volume licenses and resell the individual ones to private customers.
MS doesn't like it but doesn't actually do anything about it.
OverallManagement824@reddit
Yeah, but how do you manage without seeing all the advertisements and other crap Microsoft shoves down your throat?
Icy-Childhood1728@reddit
There were free softwares to do that in 3 clicks in windows 7 and windows 10
Mason_Miami@reddit
I'm aware of them and even tried a few over the years. You're excluding the fact that on any given patch Tuesday Microsoft could and eventually would send a update that broke custom third party desktop configurators for "security reasons".
Icy-Childhood1728@reddit
I've had one for around a year + komorebi, I've never had an issue by patching Windows with those
jr735@reddit
I did the greatest patch ever of Windows many years ago. I overwrote it and never looked back.
toxait@reddit
komorebi mentioned 🔥
Icy-Childhood1728@reddit
I love it... I'm not using windows anymore but I still pay my licence for the dev, he has cool vibes
toxait@reddit
Just wait until you get hit with your first glibc update introducing incompatibilities everywhere lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/t2xkep/win32_is_the_stable_linux_userland_abi_and_the/
No-Confusion-9196@reddit
Windows 10 IOT LTSC. The best windows version that not sold to consumers.
not-better-than-you@reddit
"Just buy a new laptop, how hard can it bee" :)
LinuxNetBro@reddit
Windows 10 EOL doesn't mean anything tbh... You could be running Win XP with good antivirus and it'll be usable and safe.
xstrawb3rryxx@reddit
Are you stupid? It means driver support will also go away and people will have no choice but to switch if they want to run latest software/games—similar to how MS forced people who want to play latest games to upgrade by not adding DX12 in Windows 7.
LinuxNetBro@reddit
Oh yeah... Forget about this.. But that will take some time before they will be able to force everyone to switch this way.. In that time people will either get better PC anyways or find other ways..
Also if the case is that people don't want to switch and not that they cannot switch to Win11... Then they could just go with Unattended Windows or XLITE. Idk about the later but unattended windows 11 works great for me. No MS services yet still support for new games / apps.
The problem is that a lot of people don't know, to that point they don't even turn off the tracking features of windows.... Like inking, auto onedrive backups and other shit MS has defaultly turned on.
bomber991@reddit
Oh man I’m having flashbacks to “Windows XP EOL” and “Vista is terrible” and “I go to Chilis for a hamburger now because prices have gotten so bad that it’s the same price as McDonalds”. Is it 2008 again?
OtisPan@reddit
WIN 7 EOL did it for me. Started off dual-booting with Linux Mint Cinnamon. Haven't looked back.
KillerSquid100@reddit
This is why I'm switching. Will probably dual boot unfortunately but am planning on using Linux for as much as physically possible.
EmuMoe@reddit
XP eol was my turning point. I stopped using Windows since then (outside the office).
Wolffire_88@reddit
Windows 10 EOL was my reason
commanderAnakin@reddit
That's why I'm switching.
Waylon_Gnash@reddit
windows is good software attached to an experience that feels like non consensual sex.
eljeanboul@reddit
And Linux becoming much more accessible over the past \~5 years
Icy-Childhood1728@reddit
Really ? I don't find installing today more accessible than 10 or 15 years ago... For user friendly distros it's basically Boot a live USB, Install, next next next... Wikis are more or less the same as they were. Well there maybe more step by step YouTube videos, but they are mostly following the wikis anyway.
The only more accessible thing I find is that gen AI tends to not be that bad at finding how to fix simple issues and is quite good at helping finding the root cause of very specific ones. They tend to BS quite a lot if you trust them too much though.
Reasonable_Pool5953@reddit
In my experience, hardware support is much better today.
10 of 15 years ago, there was almost always some piece of hardware that didn't work out of the box. For example, there was a real chance you'd need to use ndiswrapper to get wifi working.
Today, in my experience, linux is pretty much turnkey.
gilvbp@reddit
I started using Linux in 2006, and I agree with you 100%.
whitecoathousing@reddit
I disagree. I think Linux is turnkey for a particular subset of users. Namely, those who only use their machine to browse the web and some basic tasks like word processing. As soon as something more intricate like gaming happens, it opens the flood gate for potential issues. Yeah, most the time it works, but a non-trivial amount of the time you need to tinker to make it work.
Reasonable_Pool5953@reddit
I don't game much, and you weren't specific about the kinds of issues you had gaming on linux, so can't comment on that. My understanding is that since steam started embracing linux (starting back in 2012), gaming on Linux has gotten much better: more native games, better wine support, the whole thing.
whitecoathousing@reddit
No doubt it’s better, but there are enough edge cases that don’t work great out-the-box
SmokedMussels@reddit
100% agree. I''ve been using linux on and off since the second half of the 90's but didn't go full time until about 10 years ago when most hardware more or less "just worked"
Helmic@reddit
I think a big thing is that there's multiple user friendly distros now, where 10-16 years ago distros like Linux Mint stood out for doing such innovative things like bundling Nvidia drivers so users can actually use their computer without knowing what the fuck a GPU is. A lot more stuff has a GUI, immutables along with Flatpaks are really reslient against user error (Steam Decks in particular are surviving fine in the hands of users who have no idea what Linux is, even if they go into desktop mode), Wayland's progressed to where a lot more types of displays and configurations are handled nicely out of the box, Pipewire has resolved many audio issues, GPU support has improved dramatically with Nvidia in particular now sorta playing ball, the major DE's have had major improvements.
Sure, it's hard to argue that anythign could be quite as important as a distro installing via a GUI installer, if a distro does not have that then it's absurd to call it accessible (maybe you could make an exception for a TUI installer, but not having mouse support is gonna confuse some number of people). But while that's a very visible improvement Linux distros made way back in the day when Ubuntu first came out with a GUI installer, there's been a ton of stuff happening in the background that has removed a lot of the pain points since then.
redrider65@reddit
This. User interface has become ever friendlier. Less command line, if any, needed to operate effectively. The apps are more useful and friendlier (with notable exceptions to the latter). The range of hardware supported has become much wider. And, importantly, linux in general has become a lot more stable with distros like Debian and Mint being rock solid.
flecom@reddit
that made me laugh, but it's exactly why I first actually started seriously using mint as a desktop back then... I had tried a couple distros over the years (too many years, I'm old), and usually got frustrated and gave up
branbushes@reddit
I agree Linux has been steadily but surely getting more and more user friendly. And now it's all coming together to create this really good new user experience.
The_Cave_Troll@reddit
Linux is just more stable and has way more support than 15 years ago. Heck, I remember installing Ubuntu 9.04 over 16 years ago, and while the install was painless, the system was prone to instability, especially with web browsing sites like YouTube.
And I also remember having to manually install the drivers myself for a somewhat popular wifi usb antennae, which was a total pain at the time because of my slow computer And internet.
gnufan@reddit
That was just Ubuntu kernel mess up, I tried Ubuntu 9mumble then for a server, and quickly retreated back to Debian as Ubuntu crashed, and a single crash was outside my expectations for Linux servers back then, having been using Linux for firewalls since before Linux kernel 2.2.
The_Cave_Troll@reddit
My first experience with linux was in 2008 after installing Slackware 32-bit on an HP computer from 2004 rocking a cheap Intel Ceneron D, 512mb of ram and an 8GB hard drive.
It ran circles around the previous Windows XP installation, but website browsing was kinda wonky on some sites (damn you java and adobe flash!). That, and i barely knew how to use terminal. Youtube wasn't as useful then as it is now, so all I had were website forum search tools to get more info on what I was doing.
Even back then, i made a dual-boot system using grub, and a really nice usb recovery stick that I can boot even on old systems using PLOP burned on a cd.
I think after windows 7 came out and people were jumping the sinking Windows XP ship is when Linux really started becoming more "mainstream", and it was pretty much my go-to to keep my grandparent's aging computers going for another few years.
Icy-Childhood1728@reddit
I had to compile NVIDIA drivers every time, and everytime it was a finger crossing for not having a kernel panic on next boot indeed.
And indeed, I remember having to buy a specific wifi dongle (it was blue !) because this brand was known to work well with linux.
But well, linux still does that if you compile your drivers yourself.
And speaking about stability, I'd say that a typical user that double click randomly on an exe won't be the one checking what is being installed while pacman -Syu or an apt update, so installing a random kernel that have issues with some hardware he has, followed by an automatic mkinitcpio can definitely screw someone after a reboot while it was running just fine before the reboot. Also there are occurrence of the fallback image getting screwed too. While a intermediate user would boot a live USB and just try another image, a casual user would expect some kind of recovery stuff appearing without thinking once about losing data or typing stuff in a terminal, which for me, is part of what something stable and resilient is.
Nesogra@reddit
It’s not the install that was the problem. Things like Valve’s push for gaming on Linux, many Linux distros standardizing on flat packs, etc. have made Linux more practical for daily use for many people. Meanwhile people are more open to looking for open source alternatives because many proprietary software companies like Microsoft, Adobe, Unity, etc. keep treating their customers like dirt so some people are more willing to finally give those programs up.
TRi_Crinale@reddit
Why does everything have to be a service nowadays with a subscription fee?! The last version of Photoshop I ever owned was I think CS2 because when I was ready to upgrade they went to a subscription model. I've used various flavors of linux for ~20 years and Win10 EOL is my current reason for running it as my primary right now
Stooovie@reddit
It's a LOT easier these days. But you're right, youtube and things like perplexity are good for solving issues. and stuff like ChatGPT are good at pretending to be good for solving issues :)
oberjaeger@reddit
I've been using linux sinc '96 and for the las 15 years installation routin of opensuse hasn't changed. And is easier than windows since then. Last huge change was steam with proton (released 2018).
gnulynnux@reddit
Gaming is a big part of it. That's way, way better now.
tmahmood@reddit
I think its with hardware vendors are becoming little less asshole, so less driver issues than before. And obviously Valve being the MVP.
For most users installing Linux was the most difficult part, due to some weird hardware wouldn't work out of the box. Once you are over that, Linux had been always pretty nice to use.
eljeanboul@reddit
For a simple install sure, but more often than not \~15 years ago you would run into unsupported hardware issues (if you couldn't pick the hardware from the start) with your sound card, your wifi, your bluetooth, dual boot with Windows was Russian roulette, nvidia gpus were a giant pain in the ass (even more so if they were on a laptop alongside an integrated chipset)...
maxm@reddit
Just installed fedora on a system that ran Mint just fine. Fedora would not boot due to some uefi shennanigans.
And when I try to log in it uses the wrong local.
Just like the Linux I used to know
night0x63@reddit
That and ChatGPT doesn't constantly reply with RTFM and condescension.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Wish people would stop claiming this. The biggest change to happen in the last decade or so has been Valve putting money into Wine. Everything else has been about the same as it always has.
eljeanboul@reddit
I've been a daily linux user for almost 20 years, installed it on many different machines. GPU support is lightyears away of where it was even at the end of the 2010s, especially on laptop with integrated & dedicated devices, generally installing a distro on new hardware goes smoothly in 95% of cases, with minor driver fixes in most other cases, flatpaks make many applications easy to install across distros, many more companies now publish Linux versions of their apps... I don't game and almost never use Wine, that's not even what I was talking about.
BatemansChainsaw@reddit
I'm just glad we don't have to manually edit the XFree86 conf file anymore.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
ATI was always willing to play ball, ATI GPUs were always largely fine.
Installing something like Ubuntu is not really any different now than it was back then. The biggest problem you'd run into is sound, which was completely fixed long enough ago that it's not even a good "classic meme" anymore.
Flatpaks don't really help with actually installing things that much, because the "app store" concept has been around for ages now. Flatpak is confusing people more than anything at the moment...
Not at all, there's very little Windows-aligned software that is suddenly making Linux versions. Wine is improving much faster than this, so devs are starting to give up on Linux native altogether. It's a very ridiculous situation.
Brillegeit@reddit
ATI/AMD GPUs were the worst of them all, even worse than Matrox. Nvidia has been the only one consistently working well on Linux the last 15+ years with around 50% of the Intel IGP models working fine and the others not.
Other than that I agree with the rest of your post.
Anamolica@reddit
Wayland, pipewire, flatpaks off the top of my head in 5 seconds.
Also I no longer have scaling / fractional scaling issues. Idk what facilitated that change, but I went from having those issues all the time to them being a thing of the past. Across multiple distros / computers.
Nothing has changed in the last decade?
I can't scoff hard or loud enough.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Wayland is a lot older than "the last decade or so" and it has gone absolutely nowhere.
PipeWire is not a revolution at all.
I would give you Flatpak, but it also isn't really the revolution you're trying to claim that it is.
Look, I'm sorry, but if you're having to resort to "well I have better scaling now" as an example of a big change, there are simply no big changes.
Anamolica@reddit
Wayland started initial development 16 years ago. That's absolutely the last decade or so
Fedora made it the default compositor for gnome 9 years ago.
The adoption of Wayland as the default by other distros is more recent than that.
Wayland has "gone nowhere?"
Fucking lol. LMAO even...
Pipewire is a revolution.
Flatpaks are a revolution.
Scaling used to be a mess. Now it's a non issue for the casual user looking to switch to Linux. That entire problem is no longer something the layman user needs to even think about.
That's undeniably kind of a big deal in the context of this discussion.
And that's not the only headache like that that has basically disappeared. Of the major headaches that have gone extinct for the casual user looking to switch to Linux, I just picked the first one that came to mind. If I wanted to list them all I would need to spend all afternoon working on a list.
10+ years ago I used to have to worry about drivers.
Now I straight up don't.
10+ years ago it used to be harder to install Linux than windows.
Now it's the other way around.
GPU support. I saw you hand waving that one away like it's not a big deal or like I wasn't actually an issue 10+ years ago.
In conclusion: you're wrong AF.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
So... lots of misinformation, not much in the way of fact. Alright.
10+ years ago, you did not have to "worry about drivers", and it was not any easier to install Linux than it is now. That's the simple truth.
AyimaPetalFlower@reddit
wayland being very usable nowadays? pipewire replacing pulse? The two major desktop environments improving in quality dramatically especially on the wayland session?
Outrageous-Ranger-61@reddit
I strongly disagree. Last time I used linux around 10-15 years ago, it was still kind of a struggle. This time everything just worked out of the box. No weird dependencies and stuff like that. Have barely touched the terminal since install, more than for fun. It also feels way more polished and mature in general. Sometimes I even forget I'm on linux. I'm actually super impressed!
Available_Device_296@reddit
Yeah before that its was unaffordable 🫠
ker1SH-@reddit
Accessibilty isn't necessarily about the cost
Faurek@reddit
Well you did use to pay with your time
Available_Device_296@reddit
You own a car that goes to the garage for maintenance, dont you?
ker1SH-@reddit
What are you talking about?
Available_Device_296@reddit
If you can't afford to fix stuff yourself, you go see à specialist. What makes mechanics more affordabke then a visit to your tech guy for maintenance.
There was always a way, that's what I'm trying to say.
Yes it got easier for the average end user, but it still is pretty tricky for those users.
Only thinking about the drivers for every single gadget gidget waget wiget (something something) is still a pain in the ass for 99% of the people using computers.
Available_Device_296@reddit
Training for linux never been affordable?
PersonOfValue@reddit
It really was for many people, costs wayyyy to much time for sometimes negative results (bricked box)
Let's be real
Available_Device_296@reddit
Also, most don't even give the f to start with so...
Available_Device_296@reddit
Yeah but DIY is what it is. It is a process...
You're not going to pull off Picasso's straight out of the box.
Everything is a learning process and takes time to perfect it. We want everything and now, for free on top of it.
hows_my_fi@reddit
it was only free if your time had no value.. but It has gotten much easier to use at least on a basic level.
Available_Device_296@reddit
Okay, so every single one dude that learned before today just wasted their time then...
LOL
PepperBerry_@reddit
Yes yes
XquaInTheMoon@reddit
Sorry that's not an argument lol
CaseNightmareRed@reddit
Please dont forget MS Recall - making a screenshot of everything you do. Including things you want nobody to see.
Probably not in the EU, but anyway.
lev400@reddit
Yep. Windows 11 really is the final straw in years of bs.
Voxelman@reddit
For me Windows Vista was the point to switch.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Yeah i gotta admit i don't really enjoy Windows 11 because i feel like you need to go an extra 5 steps to even allow Windows to open certain files that i know for a fact is safe but apparently Windows claims it isn't. I understand why it does it but it's still very annoying and so unnecessary, especially for someone who has used a computer since they were barely 10 years old.
I guess this is probably one of the huge factor as to why i probably will use Linux in the future. Probably even soon as soon as i learn how to use it.
LookAtMyWookie@reddit
It works for most of what people want. Surfing the net. Watching videos. Then there's loads of easy to install applications that do everything paid ones do and often better.
Traditional_Yam_6328@reddit
Forcing windows 11 by Microsoft have purpose. I think soon we are going to see subscription for system.
tabrizzi@reddit
Already started with paid, no-reboot security “hotpatch” updates for certain installations.
lokesen@reddit
Because Microsoft and Apple are from the US.
Europeans, Canadians and others andre trying to stop using anything American.
We are doing this because we will not actively support fascism (Trump).
TRi_Crinale@reddit
As an American, I don't blame you one bit. The privacy concerns of Windows are a big reason I also use linux
MrsFoober@reddit
I wonder if the steam deck sells also contributed to peoples exposure to linux and thus making the seitch easier for a lot?
Vinxian@reddit
Combined with a larger anti American sentiment across the world
gnulynnux@reddit
And, within America, people are increasingly aware of and concerned about surveillance capitalism and how the new far-right authoritarian government will further weaponize it.
Everyone who I've seen switching over has been for political reasons. Microsoft was among the tech companies which bowed to Trump.
1EdFMMET3cfL@reddit
I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth but Windows has always been so bad that W11 seems only marginally worse.
Like I will never agree with people who say "I wish we could go back to W2000/XP/7/10." Those versions were all terrible.
I mean I was personally completely fed up with Windows before XP was released.
But like I said, I won't harangue refugees from W11 about it. New users are always a good thing. I just raise an eyebrow when a lot of them wish they could go back to XP or whatever. That's like saying "this windex is gross, I wish we could go back to drinking ditch water"
CasualCreation@reddit
100%. It's the only reason I'm doing it over the summer.
YouRock96@reddit
Honestly these complaints seem a bit exaggerated to me (If you patch 11 it will work just like 10), although I use all OS but. 24H2 got a significant performance update + according to SteamDB stats about 13% of users switched to Windows 11 recently, so maybe... the real influx of Linux users is just visual or some of them will come back I don't know, but give me the numbers (stats) and then it will become obvious
Grifufu@reddit
It is true, though personally, I didn't use specialize software much (college), and most of my time is spent staring at a browser / coding. Hence I made the switch anyway, with the constant popup asking me to subscribe to OneDrive. That thing is really the last straw.
Have been running on Linux Mint for a few weeks. Seems pretty good to me for most task. GIMP works for PS, FreeCAD instead of Solidworks, and stuffs like that. It might not be suitable for my future workstation, but certainly is great for my personal laptop. Plus, if you like, you can dual boot with Windows anyway, so there's always that
imadudeplayinadude66@reddit
End of Life is always a little bump in Linux switches, but it's usually not that big.
I'd say Agent Orange and that whole "don't buy from fascists" thing is a much bigger reason. Linux/Windows is a big issue on r/BuyFromEurope r/BuyFromEU as far as I've seen and it's probably the same for the Canadians and others; the perception of the US has changed dramatically from a friendly democracy into an enemy fascist state and therefore less people feel inclined to buy an OS from them that is known to spy on you.
Buddy-Matt@reddit
First time since Windows 1 that there hasn't been a choice between different supported Windows desktop versions.
GlassDeviant@reddit
Having tried to switch from Win10Pro to Win10LTSC, and on another machine switched from Win10Home to Win11Home, with the advent of Win10 EOL impending, and having to deal with the problems each of those entail...I would just rather get back into Linux again. At least the problems are more interesting than frustrating, as they are more technical than the corporate/political issues on Windows.
kekfekf@reddit
Linux is good.
Jensen xD
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Jensen?
Przem90@reddit
Windows and their bullshit decisions about win11
Happy01Lucky@reddit
Windows includes spyware now. I want more privacy.
chipsneat@reddit
Probably because Windows 10 will not get support later this year, and Windows doesn't have the best reputation on telemetry, and the whole co-pilot taking screenshots of everything every 5 seconds... And Linux works with Windows games for the most part.
Extreme-Ad-9290@reddit
I've heard Windows 11 is the greatest ad for Linux.
Sea-Channel911@reddit
i use ubuntu btw
Subject_Ad_5908@reddit
A lot of big YouTubers are publicly switching to linux like pewpewdie, My friend switched because of a james lee
Waylon_Gnash@reddit
for me, i am switching back to linux and the ultimate reason is that i've noticed gaming is really a thing on linux finally. i'm sure it's been that way for a long time, but the last time i was a sincere linux user was actually before UEFI.
Brilliant-Pianist-95@reddit
it's just the new cool thing. most of them switches to Linux then complain that this and that don't work but there's workarounds and even with the workarounds it still doesn't work as they wish. those folks think open source community doesn't eat. that when they complain about a feature not working there's an oompa loompa in the background running to fix it. hence why commercial apps are made to work and why most are still on Windows. but on windows they also want new features to work on old hardware. some can but not all.
Happy01Lucky@reddit
Because Windows keeps getting worse and Linux keeps getting better.
FlashyDifference2422@reddit
femboys
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I don't see your point of your comment?
imSEBZER@reddit
w11 is shithole, leagueoflegends requiers karnel level anticheat, GB wants to spy on its citizens. people are fed up
Slight-Moment6205@reddit
Never really undertand how Linux works, and I have curious about it. Recenly I read some articles about Linux ontoplinux but idk, it's to much for me. What you recomend for me?
Desperate_Corgi_5581@reddit
Honestly, I think PewDiePie has made people think about Linux, people who had no idea what it was. Personally I just finally ditched Windows completely after a few years half in half out - because I just got a nice AMD card finally :). Using Linux with NVIDIA was a terrible experience and yes I tried every single distro and workaround you can mention. Using Linux with AMD feels like covering myself in grease and sliding into my steam library ready to &\^%$. Fully recommend all Linux users to go team red.
Separate_Story7957@reddit
I tried linux and it sucks literally you can’t even play videogames on that shitty os
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I switched and i got to say that you're wrong. There's not a lot of games you can't play. Sure you can't use Xbox Game Pass but every other thing you can.
Separate_Story7957@reddit
Cant even play valorant on that
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Oh yea that's one of millions of games. That doesn't really make it bad.
Independent_Lie_5967@reddit
Te digo por que???? por que simplemente te aburres de tanta mafia oculta de parte de los sistemas operativos comerciales de tanta basyra que no se justifica, por que te duele sacarte la mugre por un poco de plata para compar un notebook para que despues lleguen unso gringosde mierda y te digan que si no tiene 64 gb ram recomendada no eres nadie...en linux sufes, lloras , puteas y te vuelves a sentar delante de la pantalla por que si un pendejo pudo, por que tu no????...por eso sigues y sigues dia con dia,hasta que de pronto, ya sabes como pararate sabes donde stas, sabes que lo qie hicistes salio bien , el prompt se devolivo y no paso nada, y ahi avanzas, cuando llegas a sudo .....ya puedes decir que lo que hicistes es tuyo y que Mico----t se pueden ir ala V---ya eres libre ....y niun solo pendej te puede decir que si no pagas , no puedes.....eso es linux...ser lbre , ser tu, ser un usuario real....sino entiendes, te va a tocar pagar...salu2
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I'm supposed to know what demon language this is?
viral45@reddit
Cuz steam deck is cool 🗿
polymathikk@reddit
As a tech, I explain it to folks like this - people associate what the computer does with the Windows OS because that's what's been installed on most new computers (except Apple PCs) for 30 years. But the Linux OS is easier on the machine and no more difficult to learn - it does NOT spy on you nor does it prevent you from accessing every file on your computer. It's file system is more sensible and nearly every server on Earth has a Linux OS. Start with a spare PC in your closet - an obsolete Win 7 PC for example - install a Linux OS and learn it. You'll see that you don't have to let Microsoft into YOUR computer at all.
James-Kane@reddit
It's Microsoft pushing more and more telemetry and AI nonsense into their operating system. Linux is viable as a replacement for many as long as you aren't shackled to specific software to do your work.
Snowrunner31102024@reddit
All of which is easily disabled but people would rather moan about it than try and stop it.
ProgrammingZone@reddit
Why should I play cat and mouse with Microsoft and waste my time?
I can install Arch and install only the packages I need!
Don't forget that Windows is a proprietary OS, so if Microsoft heavily integrates the same AI into the system, trying to disable it will cause other parts of the OS to fail.
Cleaning up shit for Microsoft is the height of perversion.
graveyard_bloom@reddit
based arch user and Rust programmer
WeedAnxietyHelp@reddit
Here's my thing. We do have privacy.sexy
But if you have to disable that much bullshit, is it even worth using the OS? How do you trust that everything is turned off or not sending data back on a closed source system? The "off" buttons may just be for looks for all you know.
Also, after disabling hundreds of Microsoft "features", how do we know that there aren't some that aren't out in the public hiding in your OS? If it were open sourced, we would EASILY see that but being closed source, you will never know.
Weewoooowo@reddit
for me windows 10 support ending was the reason to switch
stitchesofdooom@reddit
Windows 11
CairoBet@reddit
I use a Mac, but according to Apple my Mac cannot run beyond 15 (according to Apple).. on my desktop PC, I cannot run Windows 11 correctly (according to Microsoft).. but with Linux no dramas.
Is it better? It depends... it is missing some apps that we use daily... but you can also look for alternatives. On its most positive side, it allows you to do whatever you want.
Is it safe? Yes, of course it can have vulnerabilities like any system, but having such a large community and the fact that it is updated basically every 12 hours makes it literally very secure.
Character-Cook-6053@reddit
Tired of Microsoft bloat
DarcSceptor@reddit
It is quite simple. Microsoft became an idiot.
1) they did that bullshit where every browser got their unused tabs slept but they slept the main one as well causing continues pauses when accessing a thread
2) telemetry tracking of you and no way to kill it
3) there was some bullshit they installed and when you removed it --- it killed the file browser
So about a year ago I installed Linux Mint and now I moved to Kubuntu to experience KDE Plasma Wayland first hand.
BlackRedDead@reddit
the biggest reason propably is that windows grew a lot more aggressive in their datacollection and advertizement for their other products, aswell as simply getting worse performance wise with every update due to all the tracking insanity it does in the background xP
(even windoof 7 & 10!)
another reason is that linux got a boost by the SteamDeck and it's following competition in the handheld PC gaming device branch, wich made the above even more apparent thanks to direct comparisons on very hardware limited devices ;-)
(laptops are just so powerfull that it's not that big of a deal there, a few more or less minutes of battery time on a device most users use with a wallplug anyway - while with the handhelds, you actually want to use without a wall socket available! ;-) (wich is also why the SteamDeck is still king, despite it's limited performance towards the competition - it's just more efficient and lighter, key for something you want to hold in your hands - and the SD is not exactly light with it's +600g, but managable\^\^)
also Linux just got better and also a bit more userfriendly - sadly still not a good replacement for your Grandparents, trust me, i tried my best to get them off Windoof! xP
(but shoot me a link to something elderly folks worthy, without downgrading them like these insanely big button smartphones - they are old, not disabled! - as i didn't found anything back in the day and my custom solution of tailoring Mint to their needs didn't appeal because it looked different, and they had already enough trouble from all the Windoof XP switch to 11 - yes, that's how little computers played a role in their life! xP)
PatientCollar4613@reddit
windows 11 esta muito pesado, olha so isso eu uso um lenovo loq 15, nisso eu acordei e deu tela azul no meu pc, eu pensei que merda, tentei arruma, nisso simplesmente corrompeu o prorpio boot, eu tive que trocar para linux, fui pro debian e agr estou no arch e falo outros motivos, e muit leve usar linux entao e perfeito para game, e como eu programa facilita muito para min e claro e muito personalizavel pensa num negocio que vc consegue afzer tudo, mudar ate a tela de iniciar isso e incrivel kkkk
Lockmesquita@reddit
Privacy search
Positive_Success_443@reddit
Everybody wants Wayland
kjking1995@reddit
I use Debian as my daily driver with VM on my Macbook. it's clean and it works out of the box for me. don't need any Drivers. I enjoy it more than mac OS TBH. though mac does render fonts better linux feels snappier and more to my needs. Initially it was so I can connect my phone and other devices on mac as it doesn't even have proper support for NTFS without 3rd party applications and they lock you to read only if you don't pay them, Android FTP is just a mess and irritating. So 90% time I use Debian while I use Whats app on mac.
Pretend_Ambition3303@reddit
Linux is by far way better then Windows, you have free space for whatever you do, you can change and form anything as you want and the best part is that you learn alot by using Linux at home and for privacy.
darkanxor@reddit
Microsoft da por culo todo el rato y la gente se cansa.
INTJ5577@reddit
I don't know about others but I've reached a breaking point. I can't do things I want to do because of the greed of corporations steering people into things we don't want. Increasing their bottom line is more important than helping people solve problems. I want to progress and move forward. Also, I hate Microsoft and Google.
eldragonnegro2395@reddit
Llevo usando Linux Mint durante casi cuatro años y lo poco que he aprendido así, ha sido suficiente para depender de ese sistema operativo. He investigado otros más que pueden servir a futuro como lo son Zorin OS, que tiene un modelo similar a Windows, pero usted lo puede modificar a su gusto si desea dejarlo con el aspecto de Ubuntu. Es más libre y no tiene que pagar por licencias. Algunos están usando Sony Vegas y Photoshop para sus proyectos en YouTube, pero también existen alternativas como KdenLive y Gimp. Espero eso sea de utilidad.
Significant_Rub_9414@reddit
Windows has too many bells whistles...too much stuff running at the same time, some people pay for anti virus software or pay for office 365, while I use Linux Mint Cinnamon which doesn't have any of that
pussywagonX@reddit
Arch LInux - Hyprland Propaganda
Prowlthang@reddit
Privacy concerns and state surveillance are in questionable hands with no real systems of satisfactory democratic oversight.
TheZupZup@reddit
i started using Linux because my gaming rig and my laptop i was starting to get bored of them so i decided to learn new thing and i fall in love with mint ❤️
xdblip@reddit
I think because of one orange asshole
NovelleAI@reddit
Because Linux respects you enough to let you break everything, and fix it too.
No ads, no telemetry, no forced updates at 3am while you're doing a big server migration.
I switched to Linux the day I went to take a quick bathroom break while gaming with my friends.
Came back 5 minutes later to find my PC proudly displaying the blue screen with:
"This will take a while..."
It did take a wile, when I came back it was time time to sleep.
That day, I realized: maybe I should be in control of my system, not the other way around.
ventiluh@reddit
after windows 10 end of life, ill most likey also switch to linux
Laptican@reddit (OP)
After hearing you can't really use the Xbox gamepass on linux then i probably won't switch, as much as i hate Windows. 90-95% of my games comes from there
Murky-Prize-90@reddit
Despite being a veteran Windows user, I will buy a computer that comes with either Ubuntu or Fedora when I have enough money.
GeekImpaled@reddit
Why? You can just create a boot drive from a USB and turn any computer into the distro of your choice
AnswerFeeling460@reddit
Windows 10 EOL brings my olderly mother into linux
Time_Job_8836@reddit
Because Microsoft turned into very bad and shady company. After Windows 7, I will leave Windows and switch to Linux too. Monopoly is never good.
TheZupZup@reddit
Because Piewdiepie switched recently to Linux mint so i made the switch too and i should have do it sooner.
Ok_Brilliant_6450@reddit
It is almost impossible to get viruses on Linux computers; whereas on Windows it is much easier.
Massive_Status_23@reddit
bro, simplemente comodidad solo eso y el claro ejemplo de tener un SO a tu disposicion para hacer lo que quieras LITERALMENTE
"Lo que quieras"
Usuario: Linux borra todo
Linux: Cuál es la palabra mágica?
Usuario: sudo
Linux: sudo rm -rf /
512bitinstruction@reddit
AI. Many AI libraries don't work with Windows. Especially ROCm
Hegel_of_codding@reddit
brother wants to eat apple, brother wath others eat apple, brother come to ask how apple tastes, brother got told to eat apple himself.
ehagihara@reddit
It's been a gradual thing, in my experience. I've been toying around with Linux since the mid 90's and it's come a LONG way since installing Slackware from a stack of 50 3.5" disks.
citrus-hop@reddit
Windows has reached a point where it might be more of a nuisance than a bleassing for many people: bloat, privacy invasive, dependence on one major corp etc.
WeedAnxietyHelp@reddit
The biggest thing for me is that the LEAST private Linux distro is still miles and miles more private than Windows.
Every once in awhile I go back to Windows and every time I just feel...icky.
No_Exit_2595@reddit
In your opinion, which Linux distro is the least private?
frogking@reddit
For Europe: that one major corp being American.
citrus-hop@reddit
100% agreed. Funny enough, when I migrated "full time" to Linux in 2008, this was not considered a major problem. However, nowadays, definitely: even my main distro is openSUSE.
frogking@reddit
Distro almost doesn’t matter. First step is always to get out of Microsoft’ss clutches.
Analog_Account@reddit
AI being rammed down our throats...
vim_deezel@reddit
they're brings back that AI spyware stuff too that they backed out on a few months back. It saves pictures of everything as well as your keystrokes and combs through all your private documents. no thanks to that!
Helmic@reddit
that simply existing now has been a nightmare for activists - it doesn't matter how secure your comms are in terms of software if it's now possible for a less techy person in the group letting an AI they didn't know about fucking screenshot those conversations and Microsoft potentially getting supoenaed for that information to find out whether someone got an abortion. Much, much more of an issue on phones, but it's just kind of a pandora's box - even if most people know about this, even if we're paranoid enough to insist that get turned off, this is now an honest mistake that's possible to make and someone's well-meaning aunt that just wanted to help drive someone to a blue state for medical care can end up being what compromises everything where before if you had her on Signal you were more or less OK with those default settings so long she understood not to blab about it or talk to cops.
BemusedBengal@reddit
MS also likes to silently re-enable features during updates, even if you manually disabled it.
Unboxious@reddit
It's opt-in for now, but I'll bet once news has calmed down about it they'll quietly start rolling out an update to make it opt-out.
citrus-hop@reddit
True
japzone@reddit
Probably the biggest in the current economy, Windows 10 EOL and Windows 11 not supporting a wide swath of older PCs. If somebody's choice is between paying for a new computer, or trying to install this free Linux thing first, some might actually try the Linux option and be surprised that it does what they need.
No_Exit_2595@reddit
As someone stated already, Windows 10 EoL is a big reason for people switching to Linux. I want to add that I believe that people are starting to value privacy and security as well as freedom in general. Yes, Linux can be hacked or get viruses (albeit much less likely) and yes changing your operating system has no effect on how your country operates but I believe this is a step in the right direction.
When the world supposedly got the sniffles five years ago, it woke me personally up to the fact that governments and institutions will not miss out on an opportunity to rule over us while lying to us blatantly and claim that they are doing no such thing.
I believe the people of the world will benefit from great projects like Linux moving forward. Why do we need to have all these institutions sell us something then render it obsolete within a few years and then make us by something else or sell our information to other institutions effectively rendering US as the product? We the people can run things ourselves. This won't all happen overnight but I believe we can get to that point. It starts with protecting the last defence of free speech, the internet, which I believe is protected in partiality by our operating system.
Death to the W-E-F
PixelBrush6584@reddit
In addition to PewDiePies recent Video, the Steam Deck and SteamOS have exposed many more people to Linux being viable for gaming.
It’s not better per se, it’s just much more open, doesn’t install stuff you don’t want and doesn’t spy on you, as Windows does.
Linux is slowly but surely becoming a valid alternative to Windows.
janicejolpin@reddit
My 2020 asus thin and light is literally getting SO slow on windows 11. im gonna install linux on it this weekend. Any distro recommendations? Was leaning towards mint
schaka@reddit
For older hardware and complete beginners, always Mint.
If it's for gaming on more recent hardware, I'd look at Fedora KDE (not as beginner friendly) or give Bazzite a try
janicejolpin@reddit
it's been going great on mint!
_Sgt-Pepper_@reddit
Use Debian .
Mint is Debian with some unnecessary modifications....
janicejolpin@reddit
This was the reply i was most expecting lol
petrujenac@reddit
Fedora KDE is the mainstream standard. It's incredibly polished and up to date. Any Debian based distro would keep you stuck with 2014 software technology.
Mak8427@reddit
catchy os if you are interested in gaming
pipoluakgandalfali@reddit
I would suggest mint or ubuntu if it is your first time. Also peek at the nixos, but I don't recommend setting it up directly since it may be a pain in the a** for beginners.
chasingTheSun1128@reddit
Try Mint but also give a try to Zorin as its quite Windows users friendly for the switch from Windows.
PixelBrush6584@reddit
Can vouch for Mint. It’s been working great on my Desktop. Laptops can be a smidge spotty, but just booting from a USB Stick with Ventoy or smth should be enough to see if it works.
DarKliZerPT@reddit
I have no interest in actually owning a Steam Deck, but it's amazing that Valve has created such an incentive for the development of Linux versions in the gaming industry. Game development companies are no longer spending resources for a tiny, easily ignorable minority of players.
boutell@reddit
Are game developers explicitly coding a Linux version or just validating their Windows versions on proton? Which is also great obviously.
smjsmok@reddit
The point of Proton is that developers don't have to make a separate Linux version, which makes supporting Linux much more appealing to them. They just need to make sure that the Windows version plays nice with Proton.
sdoregor@reddit
It might be even harder to, imo. Same deal but with an obscure translation layer inbetween. To me (as a software dev) it seems much easier to just compile a Linux version, any major game engine supports this OOTB. Testing the two is pretty much the same, but debugging via Proton might be as far as harder.
Suspicious-Ad7109@reddit
I think people just haven't bothered in the past. Steam Deck means they will either rebuild or check it works, or avoid daft things that stop it working.
The one issue might be the security on multiplayer games ?
MattOruvan@reddit
The point is that you don't have to do anything for the game to work with proton, unlike maintaining a separate Linux version and testing it.
P0stf1x@reddit
I'm not a game developer, but with regular software besides some bugs it's just as easy as changing a couple of compilation parameters.
Of course this is overly simplified, as for example you can't just expect JIT or code generation at all to just work on other OS. But if you're doing something like that manually in production ready apps, I'd say not being able to easily port to other OS is the least of your concerns
mr_doms_porn@reddit
Mostly the second one although I have noticed an increase in games with native ports. Frankly if the game is actually tested and validated in Proton and the dev cares enough to fix any proton-specific bugs then I don't really care if they bother with a native port. Half of the games that have native ports run better with proton anyways.
HongPong@reddit
it is possible to compile both linux and windows versions of unreal engine games from the UE on Linux i believe, but of course there can be issues with the packaging phase
boutell@reddit
That's a good point. There are other game engines for which this is true I assume.
nindza22@reddit
Unity 3D can export to Linux, Mac and Windows basically seamlessly, and as for mobile, there are device specific things that should be considered before exporting.
calinet6@reddit
Generally just validating on proton and fixing associated bugs, or working with Valve to fix bugs in proton or improve it to better support the game. It’s really straightforward, for the most part, and very little extra work.
masterofmisc@reddit
Its important to note here that Linux is not the standard. The standard really is the Win32 API layer. If game devs target the Win32 API then their games will run on multiple operating systems via Wine.
Its amazing when you think about it that if you want to create a cross platform game, if you target Win32 API then your game cam be run on Windows, Mac and Linux systems!
mcsey@reddit
What limitations does having to target that older layer present?
degaart@reddit
Nothing, except maybe desktop composition and sandboxing. None of that matters for games.
calinet6@reddit
And Xbox!
blundermole@reddit
I was wondering whether the Steam Deck was part of the answer here. I didn't realise until recently that you could switch it into a full Desktop Linux mode. Will be interesting to see if we do see any lasting uptake in Linux Desktop use.
CrafterChief38@reddit
To be honest for most thing Linux is fine. For a few games you have to screw around with the terminal (skyrim, fallout 4), but for others it just works. Turn on proton and done. Like DOOM 2016 works flawlessly so far for me. Also Turbotax's website is decent enough that tax software doesn't lock me to windows. The only thing keeping windows around for me is I bought Affinity's suite and I'm going to be in IT so need to be familiar with what users in a corporate environment use.
oskich@reddit
Steam's Proton support is a huge factor, with it's one click gaming + most other things run in the browser nowadays.
backafterdeleting@reddit
Plus the more people who switch to linux, the more game companies and hardware manufacturers will start to support linux.
Hardware support is always one of the toughest things in Linux because if the supplies doesn't implement support, it needs to be taken on by volunteers, who often cannot solve every edge case and leaves users following those infamous tutorials which never seem to be completely accurate to your situation.
BemusedBengal@reddit
I'm surprised MS hasn't tried to EEE it yet. Game compatibility is the only thing it has left.
I4mSpock@reddit
Absolutely, less Steamdeck as an example, than Proton making everything else just work.
redbeardatx@reddit
What is Proton doing?
I4mSpock@reddit
Proton is a Windows compatible tool produced by Valve and built into Steam to allow Zero Effort compatibility for steam games. It works really well and is letting a ton of people who's primary computer use is gaming to jump over to Linux really easily.
redbeardatx@reddit
Is related to Proton VPN?
crackhash@reddit
No. Proton is derived from wine project.
redbeardatx@reddit
Thanks.
japzone@reddit
This. A relative's old Windows Surface tablet had its battery get spicy and punch out the screen, so it was time to replace it.
After some consideration, I got them a Chromebook. Most of the stuff they do is web based besides one puzzle app. Most Chromebooks support the Google Play Store now, so I just downloaded the Android version of that puzzle app they like, then I enabled Linux app support and installed LibreOffice for when they need to do some minor document editing.
Basically had no issues so far. They already understood how Chrome works, taskbar is self explanatory, and updates are seamless. I know it's not pure open-source Linux, but it sure has reduced my Family IT work.
CouchMountain@reddit
Yup, that was the one thing that stopped me from maining Linux on my desktop. Gaming was always too much of a chore.
Proton came along and I haven't looked back. Every computer in my house now only runs Linux.
oskich@reddit
Same here, I've migrated both of my gaming rigs to Linux since the beginning of the year. Still have a Windows 11 laptop for those last few apps that require Windows.
makinamiexe@reddit
after the steam deck came out and i used it for a while i started to really see that it could replace my pc once proton got a but better, 3ish years later and i think its there for me. i switched to arch today and just got everything up and running. definitely will take some getting used to as far as user experience goes but im ultimately glad i made the switch completely
YouRock96@reddit
The problem with Steam Deck is mainly that it brings an audience of gamers - people who are not interested in Linux or just don't see the point of using it, Linux is there simply because it can give a flexible launch of games without unnecessary components and with process optimization.
I personally know at least 3 Deck owners who just don't use the internal system and they ignore Linux in principle, only if they don't need to customize a couple of settings for games and no more than that
While yes, it does make it more popular by some percentage, but how much users using Linux exactly after Steam Deck? It would be interesting to see such stats
blundermole@reddit
I think there may be something in that.
Lots of folk using a Steam Deck might like the idea of Linux, but the reality of using Linux as a standard desktop environment may be very different for a median, non-technical user.
Whether we like it or not, the biggest increases in internet connected device use have come from extremely reliable, closed devices with a good support ecosystem. Most people want to use a computer (or phone, tablet, etc) in order to get a job done; they aren’t interested in using the computer in and of itself.
To some extent I am interested in using a computer for its own sake, but I also have a PlayStation, because I want total reliability when I want to play a game. I also regularly drive a car, and while my general curiosity means I would like to be more clued up about how my car works, I have limited time and that’s simply not at the top of my list.
Exciting-Emu-3324@reddit
Steam Deck is just another on the Linux fork pile along with Chromebooks and Android. Playstations use FreeBSD. Just like how most car owners are not car enthusiasts, most computer owners are not computer enthusiasts. Most people don't change their own oil in the same way most people don't install their own OS and find the terminal as intimidating as manual transmissions.
Eiji-Himura@reddit
Definitely!
pikecat@reddit
This makes me wonder if some company will come out with a commercial desktop for Linux.
ludonarrator@reddit
You mean RHEL?
Pending1@reddit
There are already several companies doing this. System 76, Tuxedo, etc.
AbjectAd9514@reddit
can you game one debian 12 ?
PixelBrush6584@reddit
You can, though due to Debian being "stable" you won’t have the latest graphics drivers etc. though you can get there with some messing around, I believe.
AbjectAd9514@reddit
Can it run starcraft 2 ?
PixelBrush6584@reddit
Apparently it can! https://areweanticheatyet.com/game/starcraft-ii
AbjectAd9514@reddit
show me how ! omg thats so cool
PixelBrush6584@reddit
I’ve never ever played Starcraft II, so I don’t know ^^; Try to check online for a guide or something, maybe a YouTube Video >.>
AbjectAd9514@reddit
it wont run the game very well since i have a crappy graphic card
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Linux has been a "valid alternative" for a very long time. The only thing that's changed is Valve backing it now.
-Sa-Kage-@reddit
Yeah... And w/o Valves Proton gaming on Linux would mostly still be a nightmare, that most people would not want to deal with...
TheVenetianMask@reddit
Yeah people forget for the longest time every list about gaming on Linux started with Battle for Westnoth and Supertuxcart. Year after year.
buffalo_pete@reddit
Battle for Wesnoth is still an all-time great game though.
yung_dogie@reddit
Every few months I like to rerun a few of the campaigns (and try to eventually finish that long ass playermade campaign that adds elemental units). Has some corny writing but games in that genre have always been enjoyable for me, and I prefer Wesnoth to Fire Emblem when I'm feeling more army-y instead of band of merry men-y.
bmwiedemann@reddit
Unreal tournament 2004 was the first commercial x86_64 Linux game IIRC - We spent so many hours multi-player gaming with it.
flecom@reddit
sim city 3000 was available for linux (have a boxed copy on the shelf!)
black_caeser@reddit
And UT99 was available for Linux on x86 before that.
calinet6@reddit
Valve really has changed everything and made the Linux desktop a practical reality. Cannot be overstated.
Helmic@reddit
Or running the Steam Windows client through Wine in order to run Steam games through Wine, because the native Steam Linux client didn't support using any compatibility layer.
There was certainly decent support for Linux among indie games because Unity made that relatively easy to do, and that's still the case today with a good number of 2D titles having native Linux versions because it's just not that much effort, but like the biggest hard barrier was DirectX 11 and 12 games with such agonizingly slow progress being made in Wine on those that it very much seemed like DX 13 would come out before DX 11 was reasonably supported and that Linux gaming would get further and further behind. DXVK was absolutely a gamechanger that made playing games on the day of release an actual possibility. Warframe in particular stands out because GE was personally making that game playable and that was one of the fancier things to have working on LInux, and then along comes Proton and now GE works on getting the games vanilla Proton can't get to work to work - going from it being a struggle to get one game working, where Overwatch being almost sorta playable if you don't enter an online match was hype, to where games are just by default assumed to work until proven otherwise, was a complete sea change.
stylesvonbassfinger@reddit
+1 for the Warframe GE shout-out, that for me was when I started gaming on Linux way more. Those configs helped me get a lot of games running pre-proton.
ipaqmaster@reddit
They backed it since like 2017
smjsmok@reddit
Yes, but that's a very big deal. In recent years, this transformed Linux gaming from a tinkering quest to AAA games running on day 1.
JamisonDouglas@reddit
In many cases, yes. I moved my personal laptop to Linux because I don't do anything that's a pain in the ass on it.
It's becoming more viable for gaming - valves backing has helped this. Not everyone has the time to do multiple hours of problem solving when their buddies wanna play a new game. Not always the case but is very frequently the case.
And sadly for many work applications it's just not viable, and my work is one of them. For me personally it's the fact SOLIDWORKS and Autodesk are just an absolute bugger to get running without running it through a virtual machine. And at that point I'd rather just run it on windows.
Linux has been a "valid alternative" to select people for a very long time. For a lot of others it still isn't.
vim_deezel@reddit
it's a lot easier these days since so many applications are on the web as well.
_azulinho_@reddit
I see his name everywhere, who is pewdiepies
PixelBrush6584@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/s/DOQgfmBS4f
And9686@reddit
Yeah, I have dual boot because I work on Linux and it's way cleaner. I would make the full switch but I play games online that have anticheat so that's a bummer.
pipoluakgandalfali@reddit
Maybe geforcenow can do the trick for you (if you are willing to pay one more subscription ofc.)
And9686@reddit
My ping is already above 50 in those games, GeForce now would double that at least, which isn't great
calinet6@reddit
In my experience, it actually is better. My games generally run faster and smoother.
night0x63@reddit
I might jump on steam for my desktop. Not sure.
FlailingIntheYard@reddit
"Linux is slowly but surely becoming a valid alternative to Windows."
Oh shit....what have I been doing the last 20 years?
elmojorisin@reddit
Lol dude Linux has always been a valid alternative to Windows. It's just the whole command lines / package / old UX that wasn't really user friendly for whoever didnt want to spend time learning how to use it but it was more than decent.
buffalo_pete@reddit
As someone who has been running desktop Linux part-time since the late 90s and full-time since '04...no it wasn't.
PixelBrush6584@reddit
That and games made for Windows refusing to run. Nowadays even VR Titles run with minimal issues.
Content_Temporary193@reddit
'a valid alternative to Windows.'
Depends on the use case really.
I always used ubuntu since 2013 for working, Browsing, movies, torrent, etc. It's been wonderful since the MS office online became a thing.
The only thing I used windows is for gaming and little DAW. So No, Linux not a valid alternative for me Right now.
I guess I'll remove all information from my Home PC and keep windows 10. So if i get hacked it'll just be xbox and steam account and some games there.
Creepy_Mortgage@reddit
It's what you need it to be: an operating system that does what it is told, and not what a company thinks is best for you (while they secretly just do whatever is best for them).
Linux can be for beginners when choosing a flavor that fits you.
Linux can be for professionals when they want to customize the OS to their needs.
Linux respects you as a human being and consumer, while not costing a cent. Meanwhile, Apple and Microsoft just do whatever makes their market value grow. Which isn't the best for the consumer. And i think people start to slowly notice.
Additionally, people need to get rid of Microsoft, since the orange man ruins public relationships globally day after day, which in return means that people won't be able to trust Microsoft in the long term. Which then means that the state and even companies of many countries in Europe now consider other options instead of Microsoft.
This is so amazing.
aznanimedude@reddit
It had been a while since I mainlined a desktop PC with linux and gamed on it. Remembered all the shenanigans with wine I used to do, so when I saw how well proton handled gaming on the steam deck I went and reinstalled an archlinux boot and many games ironically ran BETTER on my Linux install than they did on windows.
It was like a feeling of "God, finally"
loseniram@reddit
Steam proton played a major role.
It used to be that you couldn’t play most games due to how unreliable downloading and installing games were.
Proton makes it a breeze and Glorious Eggroll proton fixes bugs that proton has.
Unless you need Windows or Mac for business stuff, Linux will give you the desktop design you want without forcing you into a Mac or dealing with Windows BS.
YouRock96@reddit
Linux will become a valid alternative only if the development of software for it becomes profitable for developers, now the problems are poor support for backward binary compatibility and lack of demand
SonOfWestminster@reddit
Only took 30 years
3141592652@reddit
Ok
wolfefist94@reddit
So? Linux didn't have a multinational, trillion dollar corporation behind it.
Real_Enthusiasm_2657@reddit
The older I get, the more I like Linux :D
Gamma_Rad@reddit
Cant tell you about others but I can speak for myself. Windows 10 support is ending soon and I really dislike Win11 so I am thinking of return to Linux.
Emotional-Use4913@reddit
They like customization.
LigmaLiberty@reddit
freedom, control of your own hardware, also pewdiepie made a vid encouraging the switch to linux recently as well as linux getting more support for software these days (i.e. steam deck, improved gaming on linux, more open source soft alternatives) make the switch possible for more people.
2025 may in fact be the year of the linux desktop
MountainCricket2670@reddit
As person who switched this year and not looking back I will present my reasons: 1. Windows shinanigans, intrusive updates, pricing, demands to switch to win 11 and bragging that my sistem dont support win 11(it actually does), adverts, constant spying on all of what you do, their control over you and your sistem. All of this is not an issue on linux. 2. Windows update killed my audio card drivers and for 4 month they could not fix it. And I could not delete that specific update for some reason. 3. Windows updates that decreased AMD cpu performance. 4. When I installed nobara linux I got 15% at average better performance in gaming given that I have rx7900xt, is huge win.
Yes, there are issues on linux time to time, but you ALWAYS can fix them if you dig enough. And thanks to Gaben, gaming outperforms Windows now.
I listed not everything, but in general I now have sense of freedom and ownership with my linux PC. I guess PewDiePie explained it all better in his new video about switching to Linux
Tasmic_Wales@reddit
I very recently installed Linux on my laptop. Fresh user with no experience (I watched the Pewdiepie video and was successfully influenced). I switched because I enjoy playing around with new software. It very much reminds me of the old windows 95 wh3n you weren't handheld so much. I get genuine enjoyment out of getting things working. Considering making the switch on my main machine too.
Tldr. I switched for fun!
Ill-Plantain-7795@reddit
PEWDIEPIE!!!
MoobyTheGoldenSock@reddit
It’s a free open source operating system.
This means:
Other benefits:
Keep in mind that linux is a completely different OS to Windows. You can’t just download a random .exe file (a Windows-only file type) and expect it to run seamlessly on linux. Linux runs linux programs, not Windows programs. Many software developers make programs that can run on both, but it’s not universal, and compatibility tools to help you run unsupported programs have their limitations.
Chance_of_Rain_@reddit
This has always been true and doesn’t explain the sudden surge.
MoobyTheGoldenSock@reddit
The rest of the OP isn’t really asking about that, but you’re right, the title does. It’s likely a mixture of:
Hefty-Hyena-2227@reddit
If I look up "adversarial" will I find something like "watching my every move?"
MoobyTheGoldenSock@reddit
Telemetry, ads, locked down features, features that can’t be turned off, pushing users toward Microsoft’s own services, etc.
Hefty-Hyena-2227@reddit
All true of Reddit FWIW.
MoobyTheGoldenSock@reddit
Yep. Which is why I’ve been splitting my time between here and Lemmy, though I haven’t quit reddit completely.
ElderBlade@reddit
I think the generative AI is also a factor here. If I have an expert Linux administrator right next to me walking me step by step through a Linux system and answering all my questions, the barrier is significantly lowered.
frogking@reddit
Microsoft just increased the corporate licensing + Trump is indicating that Europe is not an ally anymore. Talk about kill-switches on military equipment and knowledge about the massive Windows outage last summer.
If a corp outside the States isn’t currently working on exit plans for their on-prem and cloud services, they are not exhibiting due diligence.
BlokZNCR@reddit
Fedora: Sshh! Let's sleep now!
I use and love Fedora btw
Snowrunner31102024@reddit
You forgot to mention Linux has no decent software - everything is free but you get what you pay for. Install free software and it's nowhere near as good as the paid for software available on other OSes
yung_dogie@reddit
This is actually such a crazy take lmao
Out of all the Windows-exclusive (in their official stance at least) superior/competitive software the majority of them are free anyways.
Youshou_Rhea@reddit
Completely False!
There are thousands of amazing softwares that work for Linux and that includes commercial software.
orestisfra@reddit
Blender... OBS... Krita... Inkscape... VLC... DaVinci resolve... Nuke... Affinity photo...
All of them are the best in their field. Some of them industry standard. Notice that some of them are not open source? Or free? Guess where they run and who uses them. You want business grade software? There is your payment options. Yes the last one has no linux version but they don't go out of their way to destroy compatibility.
MoobyTheGoldenSock@reddit
Which software that Windows bundles with their OS is better than the software bundled with various Linux distros?
Otherwise, you’re talking about vendor priorities, which I addressed, and is not directly a property of the OS. If I decide to develop an app for Mac tomorrow and don’t make it available on Windows, that’s not Window’s fault, that’s my fault as the vendor.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Crazy how you can say this when you have things like LibreOffice, Blender, OBS, GIMP, Krita, Pinta, Inkscape, Kdenlive, HandBrake, etc etc.
We get it, you have deep muscle memory with Photoshop or whatever. But you're claiming the exact opposite of reality here.
jacob_ewing@reddit
Not to mention Apache and Nginx being used to run the majority of the internet.
woprandi@reddit
Ça dépend vraiment de quoi on parle
Fantastic_Tell_1509@reddit
Bullshit.
Phish_nChips@reddit
You are out of your mind. Nearly everything I use on my computer is free both my Linux and my windows machine. It all works amazing. Hell I have more issues with Microsoft word than I do Libre.
I think you mean, there is less software available for Linux.
nonesense_user@reddit
I would not put "You don’t have to pay for it" at the very top.
Actually that is the last reason to use Linux.
DoucheEnrique@reddit
That's your assessment. Everyone is free to choose for themselves how they evaluate / weight pros and cons of things.
There are people who can barely afford a PC even when it's used. Choosing Linux only for "not having to pay for the software as well" is perfectly valid reasoning.
electromage@reddit
Most people don't pay for Windows, or at least it's not a line-item. The license is embedded in the firmware of most PCs.
yung_dogie@reddit
Yeah realistically most people have not had to traditionally "buy" Windows unless they're buying into specific brands that offer Linux as an option or building the PC themselves. The license will manifest in the price but if there's no alternative no-Windows option then it's hard to separate. I'm also willing to bet that proportionally more PC builders will be pirating Windows as that's much more common advice in those spaces.
That being said, that person is still right that price may factor more for some people's decision than wanting libre software, we can't speak for other people.
nevertalktomeEver@reddit
Very true, especially considering many may factor the version of Windows they buy into a new computer's price. With Linux, you pay nothing!
xternal7@reddit
You don't have to pay for Windows, either. Technically.
if it comes pre-installed, then it's basically the same as free to the end user
we aren't gonna discuss illegal, that doesn't count as free
the amount of people I've met who tolerate the "Activate Windows" watermark if it means they don't need to pay for a windows license is pretty high
nonesense_user@reddit
Actually Windows is rather expensive for consumers, this "Windows tax logo" on a ThinkPad costs around 80 (Home) to 130 (Pro) Euro.
I encourage to order their ThinkPads with Linux (30 Euro) or without operating-system. Take the money and donate it to the FSF, GNOME, CCC or KDE. It is much better used by these organizations (despite hiccups) than feeding Microsoft.
Ryuu-Tenno@reddit
programmers, IT guys, and various other technically minded people see the free source code as the best point, but the average person who doesn't know wtf the difference is between a NES game and Microsoft Word, aren't concerned about that, they're more concerned about the cost of the product.
Plus, the cost is split among actual financial cost, and the time investment cost necessary to ensure it's up and running rather quickly and smoothly. Free, but shitty ways to install/update it isn't worth it if the competition is $200 and has quick and seamless, no fuss install/updates. Cheaper in the short run to spend the money with it getting done in 5 minutes than to spend the next 2-3 hours attempting to set it up themselves.
So long as the cost of entry is low enough, it'll gain more people
Helmic@reddit
I would. I use Linux all the time to revive older computers for people, and it being free is what makes that possible. Software isn't free as in libre if it isn't free as in free beer, your software rights can't be upheld if you can't afford to have them upheld.
That the hardware required to run a modest Linux setup can be much more modest also plays into this, people can operate on much cheaper hardware which also is really important when everyone's broke and we're shuffling around donated computers trying to make sure everyone's able to get online to pay their bills and interface with the state.
BustaScrub@reddit
Especially when comparing its utility and accessibility to Windows/MacOS, considering most people who are on those are also getting their OS for "free" since its bundled OEM with the machines they're buying. I get why people add it as a pro, but for almost everyone, its a pretty moot pro - very few people actually go out and purchase their own licenses, and those who do are typically parting out and building their own machines, which also makes them much more likely to choose a Linux distro anyway.
PlasmaFarmer@reddit
You pay with your time. There will be always something you need to find a workaround for. Sometimes it's bluetooth, sometimes it's second display, sometimes it works out of the box.
EducatorSad1637@reddit
Yeah, not all distros are free. A few have monetization, but the cost we're looking at is still probably cheaper than what a Windows 11 license charges. Even then, it's completely optional. An example might be Zorin OS. It has a free and pro version. The only real difference really is that the Pro comes with some fancy apps that you may or may not want. Otherwise, you can just use the free version, or just pick a distro that doesn't have a price.
Free isn't defined only by price. Free can also mean freedom. Which is what the original comment got mixed up on. The open source part is really just, we have the source code, and we can contribute. The community maintains the software rather than the company.
superamazingstorybro@reddit
I wouldn't necessarily say it's more secure than Windows. Out MacOS, Windows, and Linux, Linux is the most insecure.
TooMuchBokeh@reddit
Please explain?
superamazingstorybro@reddit
Linux is more insecure because it lacks a MAC system by default (can be enabled selinux or AppArmor) but most don't confiugre them properly or at all. Even many systems that run selinux don't implement them the same and some don't harden certain core functions. The Linux kernel is monolithic. xorg has zero sandboxing so all gui apps can see all others. Not every distro or dm has switched to Wayland yet. Root is boundless and accounts added to wheel when compromised are essentially root compromised. Most distros lack full verified boot, some distros only install secure boot using vendor keys, some lack ways to sign custom keys, some will disallow when using things like Nvidia drivers. Some distros don't even add a firewall, many are super permissible anyways.
Some distros are working to fix a lot of this.. Fedora enables secure boot by default but only using a vendor shim, you can fix this with your own keys though. They also disable root by default. They're pushing well into Atomics which will provide verified boot. They're also sandboxing core functions with selinux well. There are still issues with the security of the kernel though.
"Linux" is what you make of it in a lot of cases, but to just say Linux is more secure and loop in 99% of distros that don't even include basic hardening utilities is crazy.
These are all facts, it's not about "I haven't ever had a problem!" or "just use common sense!" those things are all user experiences and not fact. Any security researcher will agree.
It doesn't mean don't use Linux, but don't think you're running some super system that can trivially deny even the most basic attacks. Hell most systems won't even reject a simple ICMP request.
I run Linux too btw.
TooMuchBokeh@reddit
Your complaint is thus that the default configuration of most distributions is below a default windows or mac install? Not sure how far windows has gotten regarding that or how it compares to Linux/macOS/BSD.. I guess it also depends very much on the distro for Linux. But I suppose you have more control with Linux if you want to harden. And you could run qubesOS or something if you really care.
SexOnABurningPlanet@reddit
I switched a few years ago for these reasons. I had an apple computer for about a decade that died suddenly. It was either spending 1-2k for another apple computer, or using a 300 dollar laptop to run linux. A pretty simple choice.
FattyDrake@reddit
This is almost exactly my reason too. iPad became obsolete, the choice was $1700-2000 for a new iPad, or $500 for a Surface Pro 8 w/Linux that wouldn't arbitrarily have it's support ended.
jirka642@reddit
You can do that, but I would still recommend rebooting. I didn't used to do that, and Steam and games sometimes crashed at start. Mainly after updating anything that has to do with graphics.
dDtaK@reddit
Yeah it’s just a better OS by almost any metric. I always found it curious that so many hobbyist Pc users were apparently happy with Windows and not willing to learn how to use Linux.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I didn't even realize there were so many cons at having Linux. Thank you for the very detailed comment!
MihinMUD@reddit
Is that what you take away from this post? :/ I mean it's fine and completely fair if you are satisfied with windows. But now that you understand the pros and cons, you'll know when it's time to switch in the future if you ever need to.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I actually misspelled, it was supposed to be "pros" lmao
MihinMUD@reddit
haha, that makes sense! I was confused as there weren't many cons mentioned in the comment lol.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Yea exactly! i dunno how i came to the conclusion that cons was the right word lol
fuckspez-FUCK-SPEZ@reddit
Just a reminder, limux in its majority its free, but not all distros are free, this is something we should clarify so some people will not get upset seeing how some distros charge money for download em.
DiScOrDaNtChAoS@reddit
nobody is running RHEL on their home machine.
fuckspez-FUCK-SPEZ@reddit
Rhel? You idiot? Zorin os is just an example of how linux can be charged.
DiScOrDaNtChAoS@reddit
Idk what the ad hominem is for. Nobody is going to recommend Zorin to a noob either. 99% of distros are free, bringing up an edge case doesnt make your point legitimate. Mint and POPos are free and for the 'noobs'.
fuckspez-FUCK-SPEZ@reddit
"99% of distros are free" "ad hominem" no buddy, no, people does recommend zorin to newbies, and also, being most distros free doesn't mean they can't charge money for it, there are many other distros charging money, we need to warn the user about this so it doesn't think that everything in linux is free.
DiScOrDaNtChAoS@reddit
Do you wanna maybe touch grass and chill the fuck out? God damn its not life or death. Acting like I spit in your face or something. Fuckin reddit users i stg
PlasmaFarmer@reddit
Often switch distros? Have /home on a different partition and just install a new distro on the OS partition, tell it that your home is that partition and your home folder is instantly migrated.
xxxbGamer@reddit
You should get payed for that answer.
Acslaterisdead@reddit
Windows 11 getting progressively worse. Support ending for windows 10 this year.
PaymentNeat6513@reddit
If you're thinking of switching to Linux or you already did, and you want to be more familiarized with its commands, I made a free reference guide you can find it in:
http://aahchouch.cc/l/LinuxGuideCmds
don't forget to leave me a review on what I can do best to improve it :3
Altruistic_Extent_89@reddit
I've been using Linux off and on for years, mostly for school, ricing void, and my steam deck. last week my Windows install just decided to no longer boot, so I switched over almost everything, and left a smaller 500 gig drive for a windows boot in case any friends want to play games that have an anticheat.
mysticjazzius@reddit
Because Windows 11 is a HUGE mess. I personally am a big multi platform user, however in recent time, my bias has shifted away from Windows in favor of Linux and macOS.
After the Windows 10 EOL date passes, my plan is to switch my main PC to Linux for everything I do as even Windows 10 has been kind of a frustrating mess in my experience.
On kind of an off topic note though, it’s really strange to me that all of the time I have used Windows 10, it has always taken up a weirdly large amount of space no matter what I delete… I have heard some hardcore PC users say that Mac’s have this problem, but personally, that has NEVER happened to me on Mac’s or Linux. For some reason, Windows is recent years has just had a bad habit of being the most overbloated piece of shit ever and it’s starting to grt on my nerves.
Oh and also, screw paying for an OS!!
TrollCannon377@reddit
Windows 10 is going EOL and win 11 is literally spyware/adware pretending to be an operating system plus a lot of perfectly usuable computers can't "upgrade" to win 11 due to hardware requirements and thus go.linux instead
RucksackTech@reddit
Lots of reasons:
Still, I wonder how many people are truly switching to and staying with Linux vs how many are just taking a walk on the wild side.
JexxyPL@reddit
Bloat, and Windows lately started to blue screen a lot, idk why, reinstalled it and didn't help. Switched to linux and everything works surpririsngly well. Oh and the crap microsoft is pushing like copilot and recall, I just wanna game and thats it
SuperUltraFanDeBobi@reddit
Microsoft thinks your pc belongs to them, thats basically why
absurdherowaw@reddit
Europe wants to be sovereign
AdOwn9114@reddit
I switched in 2016 because I can have two small panels instead of a single chonky one. I'm still on Linux because I can have two small panels instead of a single chonky one. It's a peaceful life.
Weak-Loss-9810@reddit
hey i am a newbie to this i wanted to try linux which distributor should i choose to try first. i have a usb drive so tell me a distributor which will work through usb only
Cthulhu_Breakfast@reddit
Because r/BuyFromEU was talking about Linux.
ArmaGhettOn84@reddit
microsoft just sucks..thats all
smf-@reddit
I have never found it worth the hassle to switch to Linux, if you don't know the reason why someone would switch then I wouldn't bother either.
It's not like a cool club that you're missing out on.
nj_tech_guy@reddit
surprisingly, I'm not seeing anyone mention the main reason for "why now":
Windows 10 End of Life.
A lot of people are now at a point where the only Windows OS that was supported on their hardware is no longer supported at all. They don't want to (or can't, either option is perfectly valid) upgrade their hardware to meet Windows 11 requirements and/or they dislike Windows 11.
That, on top of the fact that gaming on Linux is better than it ever has been before, and you get a lot of people suddenly realizing "hey wait a second, Linux may actually be for me".
Pigleteabear@reddit
This is my reason (EOL), I've always thought about switching to Linux but Windows 10 was always just about OK. But with EOL, it's either Linux or Windows 11 and the choice is obvious to me
robbertzzz1@reddit
I don't think that's the main reason for why now; a lot of us Europeans are trying to get rid of American products as much as possible and are looking for alternatives that don't support big American companies.
domoincarn8@reddit
Because we thought that Windows Vista and Windows 8 will also do that. It didn't.
Economy-Fishing7907@reddit
Windows 10 lacl of support, windows 11 sys requirements. People like me with weak sys need Linux. We don't want it, we need it
WokeBriton@reddit
win10 eol
theclichee@reddit
As someone who literally installed Debian 2 days ago on his aging i3 6006u and 8gb ram laptop, I see no reason anyone should stay on windows if you have all the software you need on linux.
Not only is my laptop usable, it's performing better than my much better spec-ed win 11 pc in terms of boot up times and general quickness of moving around the OS.
The only pain I have had are obscure errors like not being able to connect Bluetooth or two finger scrolling not working etc. but honestly issues don't really seem like issues anymore because i can just ask chatgpt or any modern ai to explain to me the issue and how to solve them.
It's overall been a great experience and I actually enjoy using KDE more than I do my win 11 pc. Only wish there was a way for me to download/search for apps besides the konsole or the super pathetic "discover" application manager KDE has.
thebadslime@reddit
Windows 10 support ending and pewdiepie
thewayoftoday@reddit
PewDiePie did a video on it
Professional_End2017@reddit
I can only speak for myself. Here it is.
- Windows 10 EOL im not going to use 11 god damn.
- Steam has made linux better for gaming.
- Tired of all the bloat and spyprograms.
also linux cool and fun.
Crafted_Mecke@reddit
I switched literally today to CachyOS, just because of windows gets bloated, everything has Copilot integrated, recall is the biggest joke... idk
Gimpy1405@reddit
How I see it:
Windows keeps getting worse.
Apple keeps acting like themselves.
Linux just works.
kseniyasobchak@reddit
Honestly, Apple improved so much recently, that for many people I'd say they're a great choice, but gamers are not one of the people.
mina86ng@reddit
There is no one reason. - Perception. Are there more people switching to Linux now than five years ago? I don’t know. - Windows 11 hardware requirements and Windows 10 EOL. Some people may find it impossible to switch to W11. - Microsoft Copilot. Some people disliked it out of principle of disliking AI. Others might became more aware of privacy issues. - Steam. Gamers can finally switch to Linux and find all their games playable. Not all, but many games work with no issues. - GNU/Linux is actually user-friendly. Linux desktop got to a state where a semi-technical person can install and use it without major issues. - People talk about switching. Because of all those reasons (and maybe more), people talk about switching and make videos about switching. We had PewDiePie’s recent video for example. There was also James Lee’s Breaking up with Adobe (where I believe he also mentioned Linux). This exposes people who may have never considered switching to the option of switching. This ties back to the first point: are more people switching or are you just more aware of people switching.
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
Yeah, no, this isn't a thing I've every experienced. Linux fanatics spreading rumors in order to recruit into the cult.
The hardware requirements is funny to me. You'd need to be running a computer 10+ years old to not be able to upgrade. Old hardware is old. I get that not everyone can afford a new computer every 3-5 years, but not one in 10 years? I know everyone's use case is different, but the wildness of "I switched because I can't run 11 so fuck MS" is on a level. Those folks aren't upgrading hardware for whatever reason and are simply being loud and vocal but I wouldn't consider their opinion much.
kseniyasobchak@reddit
Microsoft artificially limited my friend from installing windows 11 on their PC with Ryzen 7 1700X and GTX1070. People with systems like this have 3 options:
Bypass those bullshit requirements (which btw also breaks some games like Valorant)
Stay on Windows 10, which will get EOL soon. That's not ideal for many reasons.
Get mad at Microsoft and switch to something else.
HowTheKnightMoves@reddit
Why should anyone upgrade hardware just because Microsoft wants you to and be happy about it?
mina86ng@reddit
Ads was definitely a hyperbole. My bad. But there definitely is what some would consider bloat in the start menu.
I’m not considering their opinion. I’m pointing out that there may people for whom hardware requirements may be a reason not to want to upgrade. It may be because they cannot afford a new computer or simply because they have no need to buy a new computer. A ten-year old PC is sufficient for many users.
FreshPrinceOfRivia@reddit
Some famous YouTubers have been advocating for Linux in the last few years.
DependentOnIt@reddit
Yup. Who woulda thought that PewDiePie would be better at administrating a system than Linus from Linus tech tips 💀💀💀
"Yes! Do as I say!"
kseniyasobchak@reddit
The problem with Linus is that he's a windows power user, and he expects system to work just like windows, and when it doesn't, it's bad design in his eyes. He had same "attitude problem" when trying to use macOS.
slumdogbi@reddit
Linus is crap
EliSoli@reddit
I switched to Linux some years ago and I 100% don't regret it.
- Better software for programming
- Easy customization--in case you like things pretty (r/unixporn)
- Easy and fast to update, no bother with unasked updates
- Full terminal support--you can do anything with a terminal
- Less resources consumption--you can run it on old hardware just fine
- You can flex on others :b
- You get smarter--Windows allows users to stay in their comfort zone, it doesn't push you into learning extra things
- No ads, no data tracking, you are free and secure (I wouldn't trust Canonical tho)
ChocolateSpecific263@reddit
- linux does the same as windows but for free.
- you can modify linux as you want (optimize, support older hardware ect.)
- microsoft did billions + and still windows cost the same.
also its not true that much people change now, you can game on linux but only some games anything anticheat is a problem.
MDallis@reddit
My employer provided access to lots of Microsoft products and encouraged employees to get into “citizen development”. I enjoyed it a lot but once I realized I wanted to leave the company (and would be losing access to all the Microsoft stuff) I switched to focusing on open source tools to keep the fun going lol
smartello@reddit
Windows peaked at 7. I didn’t look at Linux GUI for years, but given that windows goes back, it should be at least on par by now.
ThisGuysShowsSkills@reddit
because its free and it feels like you actually own it
krav_mark@reddit
Microsoft is rolling out a feature named recall that makes screenshots from your desktop and who knows where those screenshots end up. And Windows 10 is no longer supported and windows 11 doesn't support older hardware.
So your choices are :
Banzai262@reddit
recall is opt-in by the way
krav_mark@reddit
For now. Do you really think it will stay that way ?
Banzai262@reddit
it literraly changed from opt-out to opt-in
krav_mark@reddit
After seeing how Microsoft behaves in situations like this they will do that after backlash and silently enable it again with an update at some point. This is what they have been doing for 30+ years and they will do it again.
krav_mark@reddit
Knowing microsoft it will be automatically enabled with an update sometime soon. This what microsoft has been doing for 30+ years and it will inevitably happen again.
Dear_Studio7016@reddit
That feature right there gave me the kick in the a$$ to stop going back to Windows and ride out learning Linux
Immediate-Method2471@reddit
tbh, i only switched because windows bitlocker locked me out, it was BS. So i tried out endeavor os (i had no clue what are distros), i didnt like the looks (i was a newbie okay?) and i switched to pop os. Then i got deeper into linux and slowly realized windows is ASS, and that i shouldnt let windows tell me what to do in my own machine.
lurkandpounce@reddit
I switched about 2 years ago. The reasons were simple for me: MS was moving in directions I disagreed with.
1. Pushing way too much bloatware into my newly installed system... I put up with this for years.
2. Pulling personal info off my machine and sending it to MS and its affiliates for "getting to know me to better advertise to me"? I hate to admit I put up with this for years as well.
3. Require logging into an external server to use a local machine? Er, no thanks.
4. Start pushing advertising into my system? F-no.
5. Invite a cloud based LLM into my home to do #2 better? F-no.
I'd used linux as a hobby and professionally for years and just decided to make the break.
I chose ubuntu because it fit my workflow and the 2 year LTS update model made me comfortable with the risk of breaking changes. I also appreciated its particular flavor of gnome better than the alternatives. The whole snap controversy does not move me. I just ignore it. The things that require it work just fine now & everything else is installed with apt or flatpak.
I've been working with it for 2+ years as my daily driver. I use it for browsing, coding, running a small homelab, learning about AI, gaming - a good mix of things.
No regrets & many benefits. It works great for all of it.
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
Is the bloatware and advertising in the room with you?
What is the bloatware everyone speaks of?
What advertising? Unless you are using Bing and Edge, you shouldn't see any advertising. I guess maybe Search can show crap, but Search is an awful search.
Besides, I can remove, disable, or turn off most of this. There is a Github repo with a script for debloating Win11.
Shin_n_n@reddit
Its sad that i need a script to debloat a system ...
0x010101010101010101@reddit
Have you been living under a rock the past decades?
Laptican@reddit (OP)
It's a simple question. I don't know why i would've been living over a rock just because i'm curious.
New-Syllabub5359@reddit
I am dipping my toes in Linux, because I hate the GAMA bigtech cartel.
G3nie99@reddit
Pewdiepie
rm3dom@reddit
Many said it already. Because it's my hardware and my operating system. Plus I'm a dev and building stuff is easier and faster when everything is just text.
Coinnnnnnnnnnnn@reddit
I switched when windows had the whole copilot debacle, and also there were alot of random apps (adobe, mcafee, etc) which i deleted multiple times but were still running in the background
i did it cus i liked knowing what was going on in my machine, i think thats a pretty common reason
Intelligent_Log515@reddit
Lot of older machines have technically been left behind by Microsoft because Windows 11 requires a TPM 2 module and UEFI Secure Boot, which a lot of machines which might otherwise meet the W11 requirements don't have. Also, MSFT keeps tweaking the UI, eliminating one of the biggest original selling points for Windows (consistency; minimal retraining, realistically from Windows 95/NT 4 in 1995, through Windows 7 (new installs stopped in the mid-2010s, I don't recall exactly when you could no longer select a Windows 7 Professional option from, e.g., Dell, but OEM sales of Win7 stopped October 31, 2014) - though this started really with Windows 8. Also also, Microsoft shoving ads down your throat, telemetry, etc., etc. (Though that really started with Windows 10.) Also, The Real Reason Windows is Free - And what that costs you! Etc.
Linux can be comparatively light weight, most distributions don't “phone home” in any meaningful way (All? I'm pretty sure Canonical learned that lesson well, years ago.), don’t arbitrarily require things like TPM, etc. If you’re staring down EOL for Windows 10 and can’t, or don’t want to, upgrade to Windows 11, Linux is your next best choice. Unless you want to try to Hackintosh, though that’s a dead end road with Intel support disappearing sooner than later.
PrepStorm@reddit
Because PewDiePie did it, of course.
WeakDesigner5219@reddit
You never used Linux? How did you know so many people switching to Linux lately or early?
Shogger@reddit
My expectations for the "year of the linux desktop" shifted a while ago from "Linux improves until it is better than Windows" to "Windows becomes so unbearably user hostile that no one tolerates it anymore." Guess a little of column A, a lot of column B.
Ashamed-Dog-8@reddit
It's definitely not because of just "Microsoft".
That's too simple amd Microsoft has always been a problem since long ago with anti-consumer practices.
There's alot of factors contributing to Linux's rise.
There are dedicated channels, influencer networks & actual users, who publicly share their Linux experiences publicly and algorthmns end up sharing it with somone.
Overall Linux especially KDE, when visually compared to Windows is essentially the same.
PewDiePie the biggest YouTuber on Earth made a I use Lijix Video, now i doubt that will genuinely make even 1% of his audience switch OS's but it is mindshare.
It's breaking down barriers & sharing information that otherwise they would not know or care to know.
Windows Software is largely dokinant & you cam't expect FOSS apternatives for everything as a soluyion to a Windows users who is already has a preffered software stack.
Gaming for example is a huge factor. If games could not run relatively on Linux as it does on Windows, it's a non-starter.
And I am one of those people.
Big thanks goes to mass market devices like the Steam Deck.
It literally puts the power of Linux in the hands of those who don't know what it is, fulfilling 1 & 2. Console-Like experince, yet a fully capable Handheld PC that if needed allows its users to utilize & customize their device / OS how they like.
Wether that's customizing your DE, modding Steam, installing game mods.
Steam Deck positively reflects on Linux as Valve has a vested interest in ensuring a smooth, seamless experience for its paying Customers
Actual Hardware with a good reputation such as Valve's Steam Deck is core to challanging Linux misconceptions.
OMGitsAstro@reddit
Because pewdiepie
ReindeerFinancial683@reddit
For my part I will soon install ubuntu
Banzai262@reddit
define « so many ». the reddit bubble is definitely not « so many », even more so because there is no way that everybody on reddit that claims to have switched has actually switched
HiggsSwtz@reddit
If you don’t know why then don’t bother switching.
AnatolyX@reddit
There’s also people from r/BuyFromEU trying to go for open source
colonelc4@reddit
I'm impressed by Ubuntu, I still have a Windows 10 VM and I use Server core but working on moving to Proxmox next few months, no more Microsoft for me.
Cool_Constant3027@reddit
I personally switched to Ubuntu bc Windows updates are getting heavier and heavier, and I was having trouble performing basic tasks. There was no way to download the MySQL server, for example.
Btw, the only adaptability problem I've seen is that it is not possible to use power BI (because it's Microsoft). Does anyone know a way?
Mother-Secretary-856@reddit
Linux not only better but stronger. Debian, by the way.
WhoWouldCareToAsk@reddit
Do you know whose fault was it that Ian and Deborah divorced?
BajaBlaster87@reddit
Windows should be renamed AdOS.
Even at startup it shows advertisements, scores for sports that you don't care about, stock quotes, app store installs.
* The whole OS feels like it's design decisions were to get impressions and clicks (adtech speak for, looking at advertisements (impressions) and clicks (clicks on advertisements).
* I have no say over when stuff actually updates. If they want it updated, you are going to get updates, you can pause for a while, but eventually you are getting updates.
* If you try to set your connection to metered, they turn off otherstuff that's essential, because whoopsies, we wanted to use your internet connection to serve you advertisements, and updates.
I don't buy hardware to update it the moment I want to use it. Other companies like Corsair should learn this as well. The middle of my pubg game where my mic is freaking out is not the time to tell me I need to reboot to finish applying updates.
The default behavior of everything now is permissive, and users have to jump through hoops just to get control over the default behavior.
Ever try to change your default browser, but MS has 50k different file-type associations that select Edge browser that you manually have to change?
They constantly force their products, services, applications, advertisements, updates, and items you flat didn't ask for, down your throat.
I think everyone is a little sick of MS just treating their computer like that, and having an OS with the goal of monetizing users instead of making a solid OS.
I should be able to update when I want to do it. Not when they have new ad bundles, or other non-sense that I don't care about. I should be able to disable features without disabling other things that encourage me to turn back on features they want to use to deliver more ads in my face.
BOO MICROSOFT!
johnnymaan@reddit
I seriously and wholeheartedly think it is because of PewDiePie as I myself just switched to Linux because solely because of him.
DagonNet@reddit
“Lately”? This question has been valid since the previous millennium. And by “valid”, I mean you need a pretty low bar for “so many”, but there are definitely a lot of people using Linux instead of windows/macOS for their main user-level OS.
Sorita_@reddit
Didn't notice that
AfterDefinition3107@reddit
I did it to learn. Working in IT and with all that’s going on in US and the possibility (although small) that using Microsoft cloud products will get banned or tariffs being but on software I need to learn how to manage Linux clients, for job security, also looking into European alternatives to other stuff.
Wacky world
moportfolio@reddit
I am currently working towards switching to Linux, there are just some preperations I have to do for partitioning and backups.
My reason is: Win10 support is ending and my PC doesn't support Win11 because my CPU is too old (i7 6700K). Also I lost trust in MS. Bloat, early EOL, design over function and once I had someone take over many of my accounts and my microsoft account was the only one I couldn't recover, support told me because the person who took over them already accepted their TOS or whatever.
Will use Debian and use it for creative applications and everyday browsing. Maybe some gaming.
Calitebos@reddit
Redhat 5.0 guy.
They did away with x11. Base Debian Raspberry pi.
All your base saan.
AceGrace@reddit
I switched because of Windows Recall
Ralph124c@reddit
"Better" is not a usable heuristic. Linux is arguably more secure, but all operating systems have actively targeted vulnerabilities. Linux is arguably more reliable, but all systems crash sometimes. Linux is more efficient and will run on varied hardware new and old. But some hardware does not play nicely with Linux (that seems to be improving). Linux does not go EOL in the same way as Windows; there is always an upgrade path. Linux is easy to use, and if you were starting from scratch, I would say it is easier than Windows, but there is a learning curve to switching from Windows. There is an open source and probably free program to do just about anything you can think of. But if you're switching from Windows there will be adjustments that you have to make to your workflow.
I could go on, but it's all the same. Linux users like Linux. Some Windows users like Windows. Some people make the switch successfully, some don't.
Panic-Fabulous@reddit
Yes, it has distro's that are better than Windows.
Windows is bloated and collecting your data, Linux is light and secure.
Win 11 has gone a non-traditional Windows route and it's shit, not as bad as Win 8 but still pretty bad. You can make modifications to make it similar to Win10 but you can just download KDE flavor linux distro and it'll be more like Win10 where it counts out of the box than Win11.
midnitewarrior@reddit
Lifelong Windows user here, with some Linux knowledge.
I know the ins and outs of Windows, 100% comfortable with it, I build my own Windows systems, play in the registry, etc. If Windows was permanently Windows 10, I'd be happy using it the rest of my life.
Windows 11 isn't even bad, it's just starting to get AI features in it.
In the Agentic Age, technology is about to get creepy. There are some things I want to stay dumb and do what I tell it to do. Windows with Copilot+ looks very creepy. I am looking for ways to veer away from Windows for my personal computing needs. I will still keep using it in some capacity as Windows is still where games are at, but I want to get my daily usage focused on Linux moving forward.
Runelock@reddit
Windows sucks and Pewdiepie just convinced more than half his audience to switch as well -w- I'm even planning on coming back to Linux, just waiting for Steam Link VR support
LouNebulis@reddit
the only thing holding me back from linux (I work as as system administrator/systems architect, so I deal with linux every day) is the fact some games need anti-cheats
Piper-Bob@reddit
If you want to use Linux you’re going to need to learn a lot about how the OS works (much more than Windows), and it will be a continuous process because they keep changing things.
I use Linux on a server, and it works really well for that. I keep trying out desktop versions and they work but they are kind of clunky and don’t run any of the applications I use.
LinuxNetBro@reddit
It's just a social bubble. Look at the statistics.. But i don't even need to read the comments to know the reasons why everyone should also switch... FU©K MICROSOFT
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Yea i have actually come to the conclusion that i'm in a win-loss situation. The majority of my games i play comes from Xbox Game Pass. I don't love Microsoft by any means but i would need to find another way to get my games. It's just too nice to pay a certain amount each month to get 500+ games.
LinuxNetBro@reddit
read through this comment thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/s/DSIaDPOIoV
It might give you more details about gaming on Linux.
And in few years Gaben will save all of us with his Steam OS as a operating system not only for handheld consoles.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Ah thank you!
LinuxNetBro@reddit
And one last thing.. If you don't want to pirate games.. depending on the region where are you from you could buy steam account for example from Ukraine, Argentina or such where the games costs fraction of what they cost normally.
Only downside is you'd have to buy giftcards and redeem them instead using card for paying. And if you're from US for online games you might not be able to play in your region.
LinuxNetBro@reddit
🏴☠️🏴☠️ tbh that's their loss. And you made me think about this.. that's most probably the only reason why Win 10 EOL isn't a good thing... Don't know if it would still work... But it's Microsoft they just want more people using a more tracked system (especially without the possibility to use it without account) in default ofc... There are workarounds...
But it's also a good thing... since they are making their products worse... In meanwhile support for games on Linux is getting better... And if you don't live in strict piracy policy country... Just pirate them 🤷♂️ you're supporting microsoft anyways not the devs...
LinuxNetBro@reddit
To add to this .. Win10 will still be receiving security updates and I've made another comment here stating that if you pay for good AV you can use windows 10 another 10 years... But what about the xBox support ... i don't really know how that will end up.
LinuxNetBro@reddit
But yeah gaming is a huge thing that holds me back from switching to Linux.... But if you leave out the games with kernel level anticheat you could play almost any game on Linux (unfortunately with less friendly setup and more problems that could possibly occur)
aaa7uap@reddit
Maybe some push factor was Microsoft Recall
tl;dr
Microsoft wants to make a screenshot every few seconds and analyze everything in the screenshots with AI.
the_dutzu@reddit
I switched because it's easier to do my work. Mostly software development.
I like using the terminal, bash scripts and all the tools at my disposal to help me with what I have to accomplish.
I don't like bloatware which requires an entire course on its UI to figure out the buttons and menus you need to click on.
Airman639@reddit
I have years of experience and the entire commerce and education industry works with Windows, little by little it has been migrating and moving to Linux, what happens is that if you want a commercial program like Office, for example Linux gives you free Office, do the basic functions and you can manage the information but they arrive and release a new version the documents go to hell, the same thing happens with PDF, that is only with the documents from there to the universe of programs that exist, imagine the web, the games and the compatibility of the Internet of Things, but where Linux is the king in security in research in the administration of servers for companies email networks computer security and I stopped counting it is so much so that Microsoft its services and platforms are with Linux, which generates cost and what we do not know what I can tell you that Linux is the future and in every Android phone there is the Linux kernel, if you want to know and you are an enthusiast look for debian if you want to know but you don't like to bother so much go for Ubuntu if you like the world of hackers go for kali Linux, Parrot tails or black Ubuntu among other systems greetings sorry for the will but you are one of the few that I have seen with a desire to learn
Ok_Dimension_5317@reddit
Because Microsoft got cancer.
Few_Pilot_8440@reddit
Well some call it 'better' - i call it - different.
With windows - you have a Microsoft, a company that wants to earn a lot of $$$, now phasing out a Win10, just like Win7 or Win XP.
As shimping Win'95 was a HUGE improvment at the IT marked, now - the Win11 does not bring anything fresh, only a mandatory hardware upgrade.
As for - IT professional, i use Linux like 25+ years (it has a \~33 years of history) and unix-like systems (similar to Linux, preceeding linux) a whole lifetime.
Simply - you download (10-15 years ago you bought CD/DVD) your OS - any kind of Linux flavor, make it on a desktop and it works, my laptop is 8+ years and still running, i still receive updates for my system.
Modern IT ecosystem is - basicaly internet and a browser, 10 years ago it was still - on-prem, on-desktop apps, native to OS, in industry we do go back to times from '60 - '70 where there was a big mainframe and cheap terminals, you did everyting on mainframe and only see effects on terminal - it goes back (jus like a sine function) - so it's no fuzz - simply again people need a terminal (whell - chromebook or surface were 1st big product for this) and good connection to a server. Now servers are in public cloud (this is a buzz word, it's simply the internet!).
BTW: years ago was an initiative - one laptop per a child (to help poor in Africa - give them a computer!) - it went wrong - OS from Microsoft killed a budget.
Linux nowadays is almost on every place like - your Android Mobile to start
IeyasuMcBob@reddit
Windows just seems to be rubbing it in my face that I'm the product
Chris_87_AT@reddit
Some here in Europe are thinking now that US software is a security risk. Even some Goverments
https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/19/dutch_parliament_us_tech/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1k0sp6q/german_state_of_schleswigholstein_is_saying/
DeExecute@reddit
Windows is still better than MacOS, but I still changed to NixOS from Windows. Most people I know that switched at home were actually coming from the pile that MacOS is…
FantasticShockRock@reddit
Because it works with all recent hardware, the price is right, no f@@@ing codes to deal with Nearly every windows app has a compatible Linux app
Character_Choice4363@reddit
Microsoft's nonsense and I didn't like MacOS. So for my macbook I installed asahi and for gaming desktop - bazzite. So far I'm happy with my decision.
DeepReef11@reddit
At this point, I think the main reason for people to be on Windows is that it comes installed on the device and Office 365 works on it.
Note that I recommend Linux for tech savvy people, otherwise you should have someone who use Linux around in case. Windows and Macs do take the burden of configuration and updates while Linux put the user in charge of the system, which has great advantages but is also more work.
Chaos_Blades@reddit
Linux is exciting with every update. Meanwhile, Windows is more depressing with every update.
zakkmylde2000@reddit
Windows 11 is just frustrating at times and the price electronics nowadays puts Mac out of the price range of most people
kalebesouza@reddit
Pouca gente percebe, mas a realidade é que exceto se o pão de cada dia da pessoa dependa de um software que só execute no Windows, não há realmente um bom motivo para usá-lo. Ele é bastante inferior (por design/funcionamento/otimização) ao Mac e ficai mais atrás ainda se falando de Linux. Quem manja de sistemas operacionais sabe que o Windows é extremamente mal construído e bastante frágil (fácil de um usuário leigo esculhambar).
HyruleN64@reddit
Copilot
Darkomen78@reddit
Win10 EoL + Win 11 + Recall + SteamDeck(SteamOS)
Walkin_mn@reddit
Several factors, you hear more about it on social networks because of SteamOS support for third party PCs is coming (although they're taking a lot of time) recently the popular YouTubes PewDiePie showed he uses Linux, then there your general hate towards Windows especially right now towards Windows 11 that restricted upgrades because of compatibility (mainly the tpm 2.0 module) and now that Windows 10 is about to be officially unsupported, a lot of people comment that they will change to Linux. So there's a lot of noise about it at the moment. I'm personally really hoping for SteamOS
Fuchsrehchen@reddit
I try out and coming back to Linux every few years but I have to say the experience out of the box with most distros keeps getting better, at least in my opinion 😅 and also there is a huge support of Steam games that just works great, it’s really fun to use
_ragegun@reddit
Microsoft needs a reminder that we the consumer has options
Fun_Error_9423@reddit
Linux is better, yes, but not for every use-case.
I use my main pc for gaming wich becomes better and better each year, Steam/Valve and many independent devs are ironing the kinks slowly but surely.
Besides this I sometimes use Office-like stuff, you know, text and spreadsheets, some minor image editing, 3D modeling and Visual Studio/MySQL stuff.
I pretty much left windows because I got tired of their stupid OS breaking updates and ads, general performance and the Microsoft latest stupidity.
It's hard to describe, but I feel like my machine is truly mine now.
2sdbeV2zRw@reddit
One factor is PewDiePie
DonnieDepp@reddit
I'm pissed I'm forced of win 10. I have installed Linux mint and hosting virtual box with win 11 pro as guest. Lifted the key which used to run win 11 and used it to activate windows on virtual box. If I need windows I'll fire it up but otherwise I'm in Linux land. Apart from some gaming, some music production / DJ software there is no need for Windows. C# programming can be done on Linux in vscode so I'm ok for the moment 😎
Loud-Sector2061@reddit
Windows is getting more exposed
cgpipeliner@reddit
PewDiePie
dovedrunk@reddit
I finally switched the other day after flirting with Linux for the past few years for brief periods, especially with my Steam Deck. Installed Cachy on an SSD, saw how dramatically quieter my PC was at idle, and now I’m never going back! Sure, was a bit fiddly to begin with (and I imagine it would be harder with stock Arch), but the amount of problems I had with Windows that are solved just with basic Linux really won me over.
Learning Docker right now, and want to do Hyprland next 🤞🏻
dtvjho@reddit
Been on Linux for years, having come from classic Mac. I absolutely do not wants ads or AI on my box
Angus950@reddit
The drawbacks are your gaming days are gonna be limited. Most games work but some dont but thatll be fixed soon I think. Valve been making moves
rodneyck@reddit
Most of the games that don't work is not because of linux, but because of gaming houses who opted for DRM. Luckily that is a costly venture for them, so they usually drop it after the first year of release.
AdAggravating8699@reddit
Windows has been "THE" choice for decades. Many were afraid to take the leap, and listened to media and friends about how hard it was. My first attempt 15 years ago or so was difficult. And the driver availability was kind of sparse. Today, things are more mainstream and the latest problem is what distro do I start with.
I played around with a lot and when the win11 fiasco started I made a commitment to move most of my devices to Linux.
FUD was a contributor and ms shooting themselves in the foot with trying to kill off general computer (s mode/ms store) and now advertising on the os? Yeah lot of compelling reasons to move these days!
chili_cold_blood@reddit
It's free and it's excellent.
t0hr_@reddit
Microsoft acting shitty and trying to shove ai down our throats may be a reason and the w11 having higher requirements
psyclik@reddit
All of the above, plus the US has made a lot of people angry, hence and there is a real move in some companies/organisations to try and reduce the dependency to us tech.
bencetari@reddit
Win 10 EOL. Microsoft in general. Linux is getting better and better for everyday use.
Requires-Coffee-247@reddit
This. MS slamming the door on a lot of perfectly usable PC hardware.
Mr_Lumbergh@reddit
Windows 10 EoL is approaching. People don't like 11 and are looking for alternatives is the short answer.
I started using it back in 2005 when XP made the news weekly for some new exploit, and just found I liked it better. It respects my privacy and is fully customizable, and if I don't like the approach a particular distro takes it costs my only a download and 30 min. of my time to try out something else.
IMO it is better, but at the end of the day operating systems are just tools; use whichever is best for you.
LordViaderko@reddit
Funny how each new windows version makes people switch to Linux in waves. I'm from "win 7 EOL" wave ; )
Wrestler7777777@reddit
"People don't like Win11" is not a good enough explanation I feel.
I wouldn't care too much. I'd also use Win11 on my gaming rig. But I can't. Microsoft decides that my perfectly good computer is not good enough for Win11. It still has way more performance than I'd ever need. But Microsofts decides to not support it anymore.
So now I'd be forced to buy new hardware just because Microsoft said so? F no. My hardware isn't even THAT old... About five years old? So I'd throw hardware into the trash for nothing? No way.
The only reason I still use Windows on my big gaming rig is because I only use it to play VR games on it. And I'm not too sure how nice Linux play with my VR headset. But I guess I'll soon be forced to find out.
Mr_Lumbergh@reddit
You just pointed out another reason why it isn't liked- forced upgrades.
Wrestler7777777@reddit
Yes but "not liking" something implies having a choice. Which I don't. I simply can NOT use Win11 with my hardware. Even if I thought Win11 was the best OS in the world, I couldn't use it.
The only "choice" I have is either not using Win11 or trashing my still totally usable hardware and buying a new PC just so I can use Win11. But that's not really a "choice". That's blackmailing.
Mr_Lumbergh@reddit
By that logic though, if you thought XP was the best ever you probably couldn't use that on the hardware you have now because of no driver support. Hell, even as late as 7 you had to have a PS/2 keyboard handy to install because it wouldn't detect USB during the install.
I agree that at some point you have to let go of the old and embrace the new; even Linux is dropping support old processors and the like. I also agree that the way MS went about it this time was particularly shitty. I also agree that the reasons to upgrade are fewer than they used to be; generational differences between hardware seem less impressive in the last few years. Used to be upgrading every couple years was the way to go to see performance improvements; these days I don't bother for 5 years or more, 3.8GHz to 4.6 is a lot less noticeable than 1.4 to 2.
Wrestler7777777@reddit
My memory is pretty bad when it comes to stuff like this but the way I remember old Windows upgrades was that it was more of a natural progression. There was nothing stopping you from upgrading to a new version. You could keep using your hardware. And yes eventually some old hardware from the Windows XP days was not supported anymore. But that's probably due to the manufacturer not providing any drivers for the latest Windows version. But you wouldn't reaaaally care too much because that hardware was ancient by that time.
But now we're talking about CPUs that are barely five years old. This is just ridiculous. If I were to buy new hardware these days, barely anything would change. It's just like you said: The performance would change from "too fast to notice any limits in daily use" to "WAY too fast to notice any limits in daily use". Great. So what would I spend money on? Win11 support would be the only reason. And that's a good reason to leave the Windows ecosystem.
Mr_Lumbergh@reddit
And I never disagreed.
XcapeEST@reddit
Exactly this, I switched due W10 EoL and because I was unhappy with the bloat ware and other shit
Interesting_Sort4864@reddit
For me win 7 EOL plus win 10 baked in spyware did it for me.
pradaker@reddit
Just tired of Microsoft’s BS and I wanted a more lightweight OS that I have full control over
potato31031@reddit
I haven't used it but I have been saving for a steam deck. I've used windows slightly. But I'm just not a fan of Microsoft. I know someone who uses windows for work including doing and it sucks. Also I just prefer open source. That's why I use android.
UpstairsSpiritual900@reddit
windows 10 support ending + pewdiepie shoutout
lnxrootxazz@reddit
W11 requirements left many notebooks or desktops behind. Linux systems run on 4G memory and 2 core CPU without any issues which means those computers can still run many years. Many people don't have the money to buy a new computer for 1k or more. And nowadays Linux systems aren't that hard to install or maintain anymore as they were 10+ years ago, which makes the switch easier
Adrenolin01@reddit
Linux has been better for 3 Decades.. I switched over to Debian Linux 30 years ago for my primary desktop and most server applications. Always had a gaming rig for windows but I mainly run Steam games which run in Linux today. If a Windows program is needed for some odd reason you can always spin up a secured VM.
Ren-Reo@reddit
I run 3 monitors. Shortly after switching to Windows 11, my pc stopped detecting 2 of my monitors. None of them would actually power on when I'd power up my rig. Through testing I came to find out that one monitor would work as long as the other 2 weren't plugged in. At first I thought it was a gpu issue so I sent it in for repair/replacement. Was told that it was working fine and it was returned to me. I had been toying with the idea of trying linux for a while so I made the switch and bam, all my monitors worked again. Silly reason to switch, I know, but it was the only thing that seemed to fix the issue. I use the Zorin build because it is extremely user friendly and very "windows-esque"
benhaube@reddit
Because Windows has sucked for a while now, and M$ is only making it worse with every update.
MountainBrilliant643@reddit
I personally think Windows 11 is an absolute mess. There are numerous things in the "new" Windows Settings app that literally just tell you "No," even though the old Control Panel can do it just fine.
Microsoft built their empire on lies, by falsifying the size of their userbase with the names of dead people.
Yeah, if you play twitchie Fork Knife clones and other perpetually-online Zoomer games, Windows and consoles are the only way to play them, but honestly, using Linux makes my computer so much more fun to interact with in general, I'd rather just look at Windows-only games the same way I used to look at console-exclusives back when I was a Windows gamer. Some games are only available on certain platforms. It's a fact of life.
I'm simply no longer willing to use an operating system that tells me No, spies on me, and advertises to me in my own app menu. Microsoft doesn't own my f""king computer. I DO. Microsoft can die in a fire for all I care. We have Proton now. Windows could disappear from the planet tomorrow, and nothing about my life would change.
Dramatic_Leader_5070@reddit
My real question is when will we containerize an KAC and I can play R6
Cypher_Crypter@reddit
Pewdiepie video also brought it up to a lot more ppl
UndulantSquawk@reddit
I wanted to go back to old-school computing and enjoy it in the style of a hobby. There's stuff people way smarter than me have figured out how to make, like GIMP or Libreoffice - but with open-source there are lots of learning opportunities that I can chase to actually tailor my computing experience to my own preferences.
It's like being a kid in computer lab at school again, and between troubleshooting to try to get Morrowind or GZDoom running on my Raspberry Pi, learning all about Debian, customizing the GUI, and surfing the internet on my own terms, I could not be happier.
I don't want ads, news, suggestions, notifications, calendars, videos, pictures or internet links in the start menu. I want my programs and a select few folders. I especially don't want the layout to change the next time I open my desktop. With Linux I get to learn where my stuff lives, change it to suit my preference, and move on with actually enjoying my computer.
Letronix624@reddit
(SteamOS) Lenovo Legion Go
Windows
Windows 11 requirements barrier
YouTube
Pewdiepie Linux video
Linux
The main reasons holding back everyone I know using Windows is - Xbox Gamepass - Anticheat - Adobe - Nvidia
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Oh yea i didn't even think about Nvidia and Xbox Gamepass. Is it possible to get things like that on Linux?
Letronix624@reddit
Nvidia works on Linux, but because the drivers are closed source you have to install them manually and have to experience stability issues that the community can not fix. Hopefully the new Nova drivers coming in the next kernel releases end the Nvidia terror chapter.
Xbox Gamepass by Microsoft is not coming on Linux. Even a higher market share won't solve this. This is something you have to give up and get the games yourself, unless you own an Xbox console.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
Oh then it kinda sucks. Like 90% of my games is from gamspass, so i would probably need another alternative
sookmyloot@reddit
I live in Europe and some Europeans are boycotting the US products. If you read through buyFromEU sub, you’ll see a good amount of posts there about Linux — especially when someone asking for Windows alternatives. Some people there even claim that Linux is European!
Also, a YouTuber called PewDiePie has made a video or two showing how Linux can be a good option for non-tech savvy people. This made a good amount of people curious, hence trying it out.
JustAGuyOver40@reddit
It could also potentially be that since Microsoft is killing Windows 10 support, and a lot of people do not want to buy or cannot afford to buy a compatible computer to stay in the Microsoft ecosystem, that now is as good of a time as any to see what they can do on a Linux-based computer. For those that don’t game hardcore, or for those who may just use a computer for social media and whatnot, they really won’t notice a big change other than having to get used to where things have moved (power options and stuff) and some different program names.
Old-Lemon6558@reddit
i prefer it to windows, it doesnt give you the constent bullshit that windows does
33Zorglubs@reddit
It's pretty much hassle-free, free, and no one knows I'm using it while they use more expensive OSs. I don't have an antivirus, although I have ClamAV. I back up, and that's about it. I have a rolling distro, which means update come in every day, and the only difference is that twice a week I reboot my computer. If I were on a long-term release, I would probably forget my password :)
Go for it. Try Mint first, then open a virtual box and test others. There are so many to choose from. It's easier than it looks, and you can't beat free.
DualWieldMage@reddit
For my part, put together a new gaming PC and only due to inertia was Windows on my previous rig, now was a good enough time to install linux. I've been using linux for school and work almost exclusively for 15 years so already quite familiar and also linux gaming has improved enough.
Windows 10 was also going EOL and 11 being a pain to force install by avoiding its checks(i'm not going to ever use SecureBoot crap and don't trust TPM chips to do disk encryption) and being a pain to use means it has worse UX than most linux distros.
Also installed linux on my parents' PC-s because debugging printer issues is actually possible on linux and UX is otherwise better, they definitely prefer KDE over Windows and aren't that tech-savy otherwise.
crysisshadow7@reddit
People don't want to migrate to windows 11 + windows ten support dropping in less than a year + PewDiePie came out of nowhere with a whole ass video basically praising Linux as an OS
AngelYushi@reddit
For me it's Trump screwing the whole world, gave me a reality check that I shouldn't rely on an OS that is heavily managed by an US company
And I always had in my backlog for the longest time to at least try Linux
Leather_Flan5071@reddit
Windows 10 EOL, Windows 11 and it's shit tons of shenanigans, SteamOS and Proton running Windows EXE files in way better state than previous times, Pewdiepie installing and ricing his linux mint installation, etc etc
AnderssonPeter@reddit
Ms cramming in so much ai crap with no way to disable....
Methmonster3000@reddit
I reckon its because you can play games on linux now. That was the only thing that windows did better in the past. For me its pretty simple, i do not buy hardware for $3000 and then throw on a slow and bloated OS, it makes no sense to me. I throw on a lean and fast OS that will make my hardware investment feel good.
Randalfik@reddit
Because Windows sucks. My grandma wanted to throw out her old Celeron N laptop cuz it was unusable. I tried installing mint on it and it was actually usable.
nevmann@reddit
I jumped on win11 dev preview waay back when it first came ( not the smartest move in hindsight) and I said to myself: "Use Linux for a month before you go back to win10"
Been on Linux since, I setup dual boot win10 to be able to play COD, but use Linux on everything else
Initial-Cow-327@reddit
I've used Linux before but never as my daily, now that im building my new pc im finding myself not really willing to move to W11 so im thinking about switching completely to Linux, only thing that is keeping me is that FRS4 from AMD still doesn't work on Linux from my understanding, so i might have to get W11 while i wait for that to work sadly
Mountain_Beaver00s@reddit
#BuyFromEU.
shaffaaf@reddit
Some of my hardware just do not work with latest windows... And these are not old hardware.
GuruMeditationTM@reddit
I have been using Linux and windows dual boot for 10 years. Finding myself liking Linux more than Windows, i haven't made the commitment to a single operating system. What holds me back is simple. The lack of making the windows/Xbox store working on Linux. If that would work,then there would be no reason to make the switch.
FujiDaily@reddit
We're tired boss, Windows 11 wants to record everything and put ads everywhere.
QuestionDue7822@reddit
They put more focus on snapdragon X than finishing x64
Win11 chock full of telemetry features direct and indirect.
They are starting to stuff it with AI features you cannot simply decline or opt out of.
The badger users with onedrive at every opotunity
uninstalling a built in app only removes it from that user profile not the machine
They take away all control from the user. Its disgusting.
DistinctAirline4145@reddit
Dude its sooo much better and faster and no noises and windows stupidities and "usefull gadgets"! The only thing currently why I have dual boot with windows is because of occasional gaming....
stephenwhite86@reddit
A lot of it has to do with privacy and control. Microsoft has long been on the decline in this regard and in recent years, on the sharp decline. Collecting personal data, pushing ads into the OS, to straight up baking in spyware and marketing it as an AI feature. The list goes on.
In the last few years, the linux desktop has progressed by leaps and bounds and has become very viable for the average user. This progression has come at a perfect time amongst Microsoft's shenanigans, so more people are starting to seriously consider it.
voi_kiddo@reddit
A small windows update broke my bat script
Yes that is the full reason I’m moving
NewLeaf2025@reddit
i'm in the process of switching over, i installed fedora last week i'm currently learning the inner workings of diffrent modules and commands to use arch, windows is overly bloated, so is mac, I like to have my old work just as well as it did when i got it. the thing i was suprised by is how much of a performacce uplift i saw in linux. It's a completely different experience, it's like i got a new pc.
teren9@reddit
I've been dual booting Linux on and off for years now. But never committing to it. Sooner or later, I'd just stop bothering booting into Linux, because there wasn't a point to it, it wasn't doing anything that Windows wasn't able to do. But Windows did.
Nowadays I've switched to it full time, and I don't see myself going back anytime soon.
The difference is a mix of Linux being better than ever, but more importantly, that Windows 11 is worse than ever.
Every update takes away features I like and adds more bloat and things I don't want. It feels like whack-a-mole trying to de-bloat your system and making it work like it used to be. The ads, the live services, co-pilot, forced Microsoft account, and just the overall feel of the system. It is just so annoying.
And in the meantime. Linux just works. It doesn't (intentionally) fight you, each update is exciting, not annoying. It lets you just do what you want without bugging you with ads and bullshit. It just works.
Add that gaming is now a thing and not a niche that barely works, and that most of my computing is either browsing the web or gaming, and there is literally no reason not to use it.
Rising-Power@reddit
Respectfully disagree. I give MS a lot of credit for their support on open source side. At work, linux on WSL is great. Running on a Win 11 PC. VSCode free version gets a lot done and integrates really nicely with WSL. Or Docker containers based on Linux.
At home I am gaming on Windows. Then doing hobby stuff and learning running one or two linux VMs on Hyper-V. Debian runs really well in full screen mode in VM.
I guess what I'm saying is Windows 11 limits only people who let it set limits.
Gaming for me still is the real blocker. I see people saying all the time Linux gaming has graduated now. Well, I'm still sceptical. I want no hassle, multiplayer included, and stuff like MS Gamepass for PC that has had some great titles lately.
teren9@reddit
You can have a different opinion, it's fine. But notice what you're argument is.
You're two big ones are WSL integration and Debian under Hyper-V. Or in other words "Windows is better than ever when it comes to running Linux on top of it"
Yes. I agree. But why would I want to use WSL or a Debian VM when the OS underneath is shit? Why not use proper Linux to begin with?
I don't want co-pilot integrated into everything in the OS without asking me. And definitely not the "recall" thing. I don't want one drive to keep asking me to pay for it. Edge to keep pushing itself on me. I don't want to have to fight with my system to change a fucking default browser. I don't want to create a hacked USB and use cheat codes during installation just so that I don't need to sign in with a Microsoft account. I don't want ads in my start menu. I don't want the search function to have coin flip chances to either open up the app I am searching for, or open up Edge with a Bing search for "friefox" just because I made a typo.
Currently, the only game I am playing that doesn't work on Linux is LoL. And I only play it because my friends do. Each time they convince me to log in, I boot into windows just for this, and then immediately boot back to Linux when we're done. Each time I do it, I find Windows more annoying than before. Each time I find more reasons why I don't want to do it anymore. Each time I find some other trivial thing it fights me over that would never be a problem in Linux.
Is Linux perfect? No. Software support is just as limited as it ever been. And almost all major AAA multiplayer games (having kernel level anti-cheat) don't work. It also has its quirks just like any other piece of software.
But Linux getting better over time, and Windows getting shittier over time (enshittification). And for me at least this has finally reached the tipping point. Windows today is worse than Linux is today. So it has become a no-brainer.
octopush@reddit
Ubuntu opened the door - Mint is on the other side to welcome you forever.
Weather-Anxious@reddit
For me personally I was a lifetime windows user. And I wanted to try something different, and when I started using it I found I loved it. And especially how free it felt. How there wasn't ads being shoved down my throat
Illustrious-Earth611@reddit
I used linux exclusively in 2018-2020. Had to switch back to windows due to university. Now switching back to linux.
fuck Microsoft for a few reasons:
windows’ incessant advertisements, AI shoved in my face constantly!
concerns of privacy, monopolization of tech services
wanting to support and hopefully contribute to more open source projects someday
Microsoft is now officially on a Boycott list due to their complicity in apartheid and more.
dat_cosmo_cat@reddit
I suspect a lot of the Windows power users in the last year or two became interested in running open source AI models on their local machines and discovered that \~95% of open source ML code is intended to be ran on a Linux server. So they installed Linux, and then realized Steam solved gaming on Linux and just never had a reason to boot up Windows again.
GradSchoolDismal429@reddit
It is also better for gaming when running core heavy games such as Cities Skylines 2 and Transport Fever. I see roughly a 50% uplift in both simulation speed and fps, running on the same system
Potential_Penalty_31@reddit
linux is finally viable and microsoft is more aggressive than before with the users
KlemKadiddle@reddit
One drive a windows 11
teacherlivid@reddit
cant speaks for others, but I switched to keep using my last home-built machine. It was stuck at windows 7, linux Mint saved it.
dornwolf@reddit
Microsoft BS mainly. Plus the gains the gaming side has made has to me made it a more viable option. My only issue is something to do taxes. I have a good program for doing it and I don’t know if it will work properly using it through wine of such
Desperate_Business68@reddit
The only Windows I knew was V2.11, I immediately returned to Unix and its derivatives, in Linux since 95
MrGolran@reddit
chatgpt
appliku@reddit
Been on mac for the last 15 or so years, they got excessively greedy, I gave up on them, assembled a powerful PC. Was catching up on latest games on Win10, (along the way realized I barely missed anything actually, but that's another topic).
Win10 is about to bye bye, so it is time to really think of a big change.
In Apple's timeline, my old MBP 2015 is completely obsolete. But it is an okaish laptop, so I gave it a shot and revived it with Fedora Linux.
I've been using/trying Linux since Slackware 5 or something like that, been using it on servers ever since, but not on Desktop.
To my surprise that Fedora installation went so smooth, I barely even toughed terminal thru the whole setup (only for a few specific pieces of software).
Amazed by that, I bought another SSD for my PC and gave it a try there. I never rebooted back to Windows since that moment.
Games work faster, LLMs too, not a single glitch since installation, everything works. I didn't have such experience in a year of Windows 10.
Flatpacks are godsend.
Meanwhile I found myself always tinkering with Windows to make things work. Imagine in 2025 the need to spend an hour googling how to configure a wifi card to work with 5Hz networks. And every week there was something stupid. That or endless glitches. Mandatory software updates that interfere with work.
And ofc on Linux you don't have that much spyware that needs resources to spy on you. Less CPU usage, Less RAM usage.
I use the same stuff on Linux as I did on Windows. RAM usage never goes above 20GB. On Windows it never was less than 45GB. And that's not cache, that's actual usage.
And then the question of peripherals that won't operate properly without their bloated spyware software which is also insanely unreliable.
So yeah, Linux is better than Win or Mac. (With that said MacBook Air is still probably the best laptop for people who are always on the move with how it is lightweight and battery time).
Chahan_The_Great@reddit
Advantages of Linux: Privacy, Security (Both Depends On The Distro), Personalization Options, Open-Source, Looks Better (Because You Can Shape It To Your Standards)
Disadvantages of Linux: Compatibility Issues (Hardware and Software.), Some Distributions are Hard To Install and Use, You Have To Leave Some Programs To Fully Switch To Linux.
The Reason So Many Switching To Linux Lately? They Think It's Cool.
snowmanpage@reddit
the majority of datacenters depend on one flavour or another of a linux kernel based OS. all thanks to our Supreme Leader Linus Torvalds 😁
what you're witnessing "why is everyone switching to linux?" is most likely due to former Windows admins discovered the power and freedom of linux based systems.
AbyssWalker240@reddit
Windows 10 eol approaching and window 11 sucks
Valves strides in Linux gaming are making it more approachable than ever
PewDiePie's recent videos about it
billcy@reddit
I is becoming easier, as in to install stuff and maintenance without using the command line. As more people switch it starts to escalate, so each time windows upgrade and screw their users. More move to Linux and Apple. I would think at some point it will start to pass windows. How long from now who knows
Deuzivaldo@reddit
i think more people are realising that: 1. windows sucks 2. linux rocks.
i mean, seriously. It's not like people care that much about Free/Libre and Open Source Software (YET!!!*, things are changing, guys, and for the best!!!). To be honest people care about usability. thats it. I wanna play GTA, can I, like right now?! Or do I have to spend hours/days figuring out how to setup it with wine (Okay, I know YOU know how to do it quickly and don't-bother/like the hacking process, but people people outside our bubble don't).
I think the linux experience, when not complicated, is great!
I want to update my system: - option 1: automatic updates out of nowhere that takes 1h and deprive (didnt find the english word I was looking for) you from using your computer - option 2: run a simple command that updates your system in the background. You can still use it normally. You may need to restart firefox in a few minutes tho.
I have an old laptop.. - option 1: suffer with a bloated system that eats memory - option 2: install any linux distribution. Even the heavier ones are much lighter that windows.
I like using command line to do stuff: - option 1: suffer with unfulfilling powershell commands and a system made to be used graphically. - option 2: great* default command line.
One more thing... I think most of the applications that people use nowadays are web based. That somehow good to linux ahahaha.
gatornatortater@reddit
I just watched Pewdiepie's video... and he's actually arguing that figuring it all out is the way to go and more importantly, it is worth it.
Technical_5733@reddit
Linux is lighter, safer, private and stable, in addition to being free and open source. In other words, it only has advantages.
Average_Dude___@reddit
(1) A lot of macs are no longer upgradeable, but the existing OS will not support newer software, so either throw away the laptop or install Linux.
(2) Linux has reached a critical point where it is easy enough to install for the average user
(3) People get direct step-by-step help by using Chat-GPT, whereas before people would give up search through websites
** Since chat GPT I have been generating several shell scripts in a day, before it took me days ... I never learnt to code when I was young, sadly.. couldn't afford a computer.
It's only a matter of time before someone gets the idea of slapping an AI assistant into a Linux distro that will make Linux something your Grandma finds easier to use than Windows or Mac.
gatornatortater@reddit
gpt4all
It may not come by default on any distros yet... or maybe it does? but its pretty dang close
alekosbiofilos@reddit
A lot of rational explanations. Howeve, most likely it is because of pewdipie's video 😅
Glass-Pound-9591@reddit
When windows announced they were creating millions of tons of e waste by creating tcp requirements I switched and will NEVER go back.
Here4conten7@reddit
Many people are switching because Windows 10 Is getting support cut, so people and companis are looking for an alternative that Is as good as Windows if not Better,the reasons why Linux Is so popular and loved are:
Generic drivers in the kernel or installed when installing the OS
Significantly safer than Windows because no One creates malware for Linux (It does still exsist)
PlugNplay in some Distros
Better resources management
Generally Low sys requiremnts
Saurabh09bot@reddit
PewDiePie video also plays a big part
Here4conten7@reddit
So basically, everyone Is switching to Linux because of the support termination on Windows 10 unless you pay,which
Prestigious_Wall529@reddit
It helps that Windows 11 has no unique selling point (USP).
And 'Trusted Computing' is Microsoft not trusting the user, undermining the user trusting Microsoft.
Sales won't entertain the MS techs explaining the advantages of encryption and giving Microsoft your credentials and decryption keys.
Slathian@reddit
Windows 11 literally broke my motherboards TPE... So yeah
mikaball@reddit
These:
Reasons for not switching to Linux on the Desktop is getting smaller every day.
Enterprise management via AD and other services still keep some companies on Windows, but for individual personal use I can't justify much staying on Windows.
The only hard thing for now is Kernel anti-cheats.
Laptican@reddit (OP)
I didn't even realize there was so many people using Linux. Thank you guys so might for the comments!
Top_Concentrate8245@reddit
Canadians here, because sovereignty
jus_meh@reddit
Mine personally:
Microsoft likes forcing updates that are actually downgrades, and you have no real control over your OS (or any Microsoft software, really)
Copilot
Copilot
Copilot
Windows 11 is very counterintuitive from my limited experience in using it, the shiny new UI feels very clunky.
Despite using very capable laptops and desktop PCs, it feels laggy. It's not as smooth or snappy as Windows 10, and we're approaching EOL.
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
Don’t forget the mal/theft-ware that is OneDrive.
jus_meh@reddit
Personally, I have never used onedrive on my personal devices
Is it really that bad?
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
On Windows 10 it just showed up one day after an update and insidiously insinuated itself into the user folder. I uninstalled it and it later showed up again. I regularly check to see if it creeps in again. One only has to search for onedrive issues to see that its basically malware or “theftware”.
jus_meh@reddit
Oof... yeah I remember this now And uninstalling it screws a LOT of things up
Honestly I've always avoided Microsoft products, and I couldn't be happier
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
I raised the red flag at the small engineering company I work for to let coworkers and the CEO know that company documents and IP could be uploaded to Microsoft’s cloud, exposing it to potential IP theft by their AI. And that personal documents could be uploaded as well. Some of my coworkers faces went white with terror.
jus_meh@reddit
Luckily the company I work for doesn't have to deal with IP theft, but yeah I see how it could be a massive issue going forward
Especially with copilot... did I mention I hate copilot?
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
Well, OneDrive and Copilot are evil enough, now they're pushing Recall which is a basically synonymous with a keylogger.
jus_meh@reddit
I say copilot, I specifically am talking about the recall portion of it.
As far as I remember, when recall was announced, it was a part of copilot, no?
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
Yeah, they were sort of hand-in-hand. I think Recall is the screencapture portion that hands off to Copilot for AI processing.
jus_meh@reddit
Yess!
Thanks for correcting my information
But yeah I can't wait for this whole AI fad to die down
Like I'm sorry, my damn fridge doesn't need AI, neither does my washing machine, nor my damn coffee mug
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
AI has definitely reached marketing fad levels. Kind of like how terms like "nano", "organic", or "cloud" got attached to unrelated things.
jus_meh@reddit
Oh yeah, not to mention carbon fiber
I give another maybe 2-5 years max
That's IF WW3 doesn't start soon
Pretty_Boy_Bagel@reddit
Oh, and crypto....crypto this crypto that!
jus_meh@reddit
God damned NFTs, and blockchain too
Dear_Studio7016@reddit
I think you forgot about copilot lol
jus_meh@reddit
Ah shoot, I think I did... thanks for reminding me brother!
abegosum@reddit
A few reasons. First, Microsoft is blundering Windows 11. Second, many applications are widely available on Linux. Third, Valve has made huge strides with Proton for Windows game compatibility on Linux.
First, as others have said, Windows 10 is going EOL and Windows 11 is a bit of a hot mess. This is due both to Windows arbitrary hardware requirements and to unwanted aspects added to Windows 11. For arbitrary hardware requirements- Windows 11 can run on significantly lower requirements and older processors than it says on the box. But, Microsoft have decided only to "support" a certain generation onward and require TPM 2.0. This makes very little sense, considering that each generation of 64 bit x86 chip speaks the same bytecode and the only major differences might be additional features unrelated to processing and the power of the chip itself. For TPM 2.0, it's a security feature that allows the hardware to encrypt keys securely. This is great for laptops in particular, because it allows the hard drive to be encrypted in such a way that if someone steals your machine, they can't read the drive if they can't login. However, while there ARE use cases for desktop machines, the returns are far diminished. For example, I didn't see a reason to upgrade my home desktop's motherboard to get a combination CPU / mobo that has TPM 2.0 because the risk of theft is not worth the cost. If you install Windows 11 on a machine that doesn't either have the "supported" gen hardware or TPM 2.0, Microsoft has threatened that you may not get updates. That's a bit different from the past- where they simply said they can't support customers with problems on unsupported hardware- blocking updates is a threat to security for users and shouldn't be tolerated. Additionally, Microsoft is bloating Windows 11 more and more with unrequested "features," such as AI tools (not everyone wants or needs these), telemetry and advertising. It's clear more and more that the data of Windows users is a profit center for Microsoft. As such, it's hard as a savvy user to justify giving away my data to be sold to ad companies when using a product that also costs $199.
Second, thanks to the standardization of HTML 5 / JS as not only a set of web frameworks but an entire development toolkit, most apps you would want either run on Linux or provide the same experience as a browser. Take, for example, Slack, Discord, Zoom, Visual Studio Code, etc. All of these applications are built on a framework called Electron. An Electron-based app is, actually, just a sandboxed browser running HTML and javascript. Developers do this for an obvious reason- you can VERY easily target almost any platform, because almost any platform will work with a webkit based browser. Now, there are tradeoffs to developing apps this way- permissions to hardware are sometimes a bit dicey and there's an added overhead of the browser layer itself. But, being able to write one app for Windows / Mac / Linux / Chromebooks / Android with just one codebase is worth that cost. I have been using Linux as my daily driver for years now, and I have not found any applications that either don't have a Linux version or run in a browser just as well. YMMV on this one- this all depends on what apps you need, but most people use computers for web stuff, communication, streaming, email, etc. All of this works on Linux out of the box without any effort these days.
abegosum@reddit
Finally, a major roadblock for Linux adoption in the past for many users has been gaming. Games typically require a lower level hardware access to perform well, and libraries like Microsoft's DirectX were the easiest way to ensure that you could write a game and it would be compatible with most people's hardware (assuming it was fast enough). So, Linux, with it's tiny install base, wasn't a valuable target for game companies. Enter Valve and the Steam Deck. Valve wanted to create a portable gaming machine and didn't want to have to license Windows on every device sold, so they based their machine on Arch Linux and created a compatibility tool called Proton to make Windows games compatible. (Yes, I know Proton existed before the Steam Deck. But the Steam Deck significantly accelerated its development.) Proton (in concert with another tool for Linux called WINE) creates a virtual environment in which to install a game where the game sees all the APIs it expects to run on Windows- it finds a registry, it has expected APIs for video, sound, and control, it has a familiar folder structure, etc. So, the game, when it runs, doesn't "know" it's running on Linux. A lot have work has been done to make this seamless to the person playing the game. Proton's setup is done for them on game install (assuming you're using Steam) and to the user, the game just "works." The biggest two gaming caveats right now are games that require anti-cheat systems (usually online competitive games) and VR. Anti-cheat systems running on Windows typically work because they are able to run at such a deep level of the system that a standard user can't circumvent them. The Linux kernel doesn't work that way- if you're the root user (the name of the Administrator user on Linux and Unix based systems), you have ultimate control. That's by design, and why most Linux heads will tell you never run things as root unless you know what you're doing. Therefore, anti-cheat is very difficult to enforce in Linux, because someone with root privileges can still control processing at a deeper level than the anti-cheat system. As to VR- this is just a matter of time, I believe. I have a Windows 11 machine strictly for VR gaming, as I haven't found Linux VR for the common headsets to yet be up to snuff. If you have an expensive, directly connected VR headset like the HTC Vive or Valve Index, it will probably work. But, I have had little to no luck with any mid-range headsets that work via streaming, such as the Quest 2 and 3 (which are the most popular and affordable headsets on the market). Valve is rumored to be in the process of working on their own new VR hardware, and I expect that might shake up this space. But, as of now, VR gaming on PC is primarily a Windows affair.
So, with Windows 11 being so restrictive and having so many anti-features, apps being more compatible and wider deployed than ever, and gaming finally having a realistic solution, Linux is a very real alternative now where it wasn't as much in the past. I'd be comfortable installing Ubuntu for my parents and letting them use that as their daily driver on their machine, it's that user friendly at this point for the standard stuff.
Zabrinuti_gradjanin@reddit
For me, it is 2 parts.
At work I got absolutely frustrated with w11 shenanigans, and since Ubuntu is supported for the app I work with, I was able to switch without losing anything in terms of productivity or convenience.
It became convenient enough to game on Linux, so I am in process of nit-pickong distros until I get the one I will main at home. I will still need dual boot W10 for maybe some games that eat shit with kernel spyware
snaynay@reddit
I know you've had a lot of responses.
Linux is fiddly and a whole web of stuff to learn and play with from the basic stuff to the complex stuff, from enterprise stable to bleeding edge and ready to break in the next update.
However, with Linux, the whole OS can be exactly what you need and nothing more. Consider the popular distros as 'philosophies' often intended for very different groups with different needs. Anything you choose or include is up to you. A desktop version might have some programs that are part of the whole GUI package, but choosing that package itself was a choice. You can build linux up from a really barebones shell (terminal) environment with next to nothing installed when you know what you are doing.
It's not better in terms of support and stability for most consumer users. It might have quirks and bugs that you just don't see on MacOS or Windows. Those two might also be highly optimised for very specific workloads. However, Linux 's fundamental concepts in how you use a computer is just better. Package managers, config, modularity, openness, etc, etc. From desktop to servers, it's exactly what you chose it to be.
Definitely worth learning some basics at least. Even if just to bring some life back to an older computer and give it some simple purposes.
_VoidWalks_@reddit
Welp it's all cuz of Microsoft being a bloatware filled with unwanted crap like the copilot and shii.
Linux on the other hand is much better on older laptops and the support for GPU drivers is getting better. Especially with distros like bazzite catching a lot of gamers attention.
trusterx@reddit
You forgot Windows Recall™
spnkr@reddit
Finally switched full time because I have had to reimage my PC more and more frequently. I generally thought the design language was an improvement with 11 but I am having more and more critical issues and stability problems. Everything is perfectly stable on Linux.
codeasm@reddit
Was Watch primetime about PewDiePie, spouse said "maybe i wanna switch and try linux after our vacation". Shes fedup with windows and office356. I can only support her with what feel right. Her only demands these days is proper word processing in dutch and a couple of sims games. And eh, minecraft bedrock edition (due to controller layout ) nothing i cant fix, but should be easy. Id probably give her linux mint or debian. Im an arch/ lfs/windows dual boot user
codeasm@reddit
Her work pc is windows and office356, cant switch that sadly. And if i land a job at the same company, its either windows or mac. But IBM mainframes possibly 😋
More people start to dislike the ai, slow search and constant pressure to buy subscriptions. She forced me to buy her office 2021 for personal use, cause she wants to own the software.
ashery_@reddit
In short Microsoft has been pushing their nonsense onto people which a lot of us who are tired of it have just cut our loss and switched to tux full time and don't see a way to go back to windows on our own terms
osos900190@reddit
Last night I booted into Windows 11 for the first time in weeks, because I needed to check something and I still use for a few things, and I was reminded of how horrible it is.
Because I hadn't logged in in a while, I got the "Let's finish setting up your device" screen, which I could've skipped, but I decided to go along with it.
Aside from asking you to set up a pin and other minor stuff, it was nothing but desperate attempts to get you to buy their products, One Drive, 365, etc etc..
Windows as an operating system has become nothing but a means for Microsoft to bombard you with ads and syphon your data.
Sure, for the average user, and because it's familiar to most people, the experience is somewhat smoother in certain aspects, but the time it takes to start-up and the bugs you start to notice if you pay enough attention, combined with everything else I've mentioned, are enough reasons to drive people away.
On my personal machine I'm on Debian 99% of the time, but I'm still keeping Windows because some of the work I do needs to be tested on Windows, and I still play a few games every now and then, which I know can work on Linux, but that'd require me to reconfigure my system by taking away disk space from Windows and giving it to Linux and It's not that much anyway.
When I upgrade my hardware, there'll be no more dual booting. I'll still have Windows, but it'll be running in a virtual machine.
volci@reddit
Define "so many"
Dinux-g-59@reddit
Next October 14 win 10 will be out of support, so if your pc doesn't support win 11 this is a good moment to switch to linux
Lanareth1994@reddit
Because f Microsoft? 😂
They push people to pay for the "new" OS by making old OS unable to work on old machines, it's laggy af, blue screens and updates that takes ages? Oh and the enforced thingy to use Copilot by default unless you force it to be deactivated?
I could go on and on. Reread my first line that's the answer 🤙
GreenSouth3@reddit
THIS!
Taken_out_goose@reddit
Windows 11, other shit Microsoft does no one asked for and I think PewDiePie plays a role that isn't negligible.
Fuzzy-System8568@reddit
Youtubers, Steam Deck, Windows issues, more Adobe alternatives etc.
All in all just a good year for Open Source / Linux
goober183@reddit
Windows is worse than linux, my main reason is all the bloat and advertising that comes even when you pay 200 dollars for a license
michael0n@reddit
To be honest only normies pay 200$. You can basically activate your Win10/11 for free from public github script. You can also debloat Windows with Tiny11 to a point that there isn't even updates.
goober183@reddit
i use the github script for when i'm forced to use windows. but microsoft's greed is still insane
mrlinkwii@reddit
i wouldnt call it worse , windows still do something better than linux
AlterTableUsernames@reddit
In Linux everything is a file. Case closed.
mrlinkwii@reddit
ok and? linux is still horrible to aim for as a dev , at least with windows you have a defined environment and aim , on linux you have many variables such as , are users using x11 or wayland ( and before you complain with 'why not you use a toolkit' and application crashing while using wayland while using a toolkit can still crash on like wayland x11) , what version of glibc are they running etc
aeropl3b@reddit
As a dev, who targets all platforms, with UI...Linux is a fucking dream over windows. The issues you listed are simply non-issue, they have known and stable solutions.
X Wayland handles the X running in Wayland question right now. The real issue is what to migrate to for GL and the current answer is OpenGL ES which isn't going to work for all, but probably some other glvnd type solution will.
Glibc compat...not even in the top 10 concerns I have about builds right now. Build on the oldest Ubuntu LTS image, ship binaries, done. If you must support an older distro, grab an almalinux image, build and ship, done.
Every time we work on the windows side we are fighting a system that refuses to leave the dark ages of OS development. Path shenanigans hell, everything must redistribute all of its dependencies, msvc, filesystem literally from the 80s...even windows devs know it sucks, they added WSL so they wouldn't have to deal with their own OS anymore! Azure is almost entirely a Linux cluster. When your flag ship product is not your first choice for your infrastructure, you know you fucked up.
I_M_NooB1@reddit
wait, wait
Does this mean common dependencies can't be shared between software and need isolated install for each software, or that it can be shared, but needs to be reinstalled for each software?
mrlinkwii@reddit
usually on windows the only common thing is Visual C++ Runtime between applaictions
most dependencies are not shared , its like on linux you can have an appimage with most of not all the dependencies of an appliaction in it and you just look for the glibc / gpu drivers in the system ( like using an sdl3 when teh user only has sdl2)
I_M_NooB1@reddit
ahh. got it. i never looked into dll files, now i know.
Boomer_Nurgle@reddit
Most people don't give a singular shit. They just want their PC to work.
Positive_Locksmith19@reddit
On top of that, the folder hierarchy just sucks. Every program acts on its own, there is no specific config folder, some install themselves into Appdata, \~home folder sucks and you need admin permission to delete some file, which you can't in a lot of cases even if you are an admin.
Man I could go forever. Windows sucks.
mrlinkwii@reddit
tbf ive seen linux programs do simialr this really isnt a windws exclusive thing
cjdubais@reddit
And throwing Flatpak into the mix makes this even worse.
I know exactly where all the executables on my Windows box are installed.
Wish I could say that for my Linux boxes.
Every now and than an app will ask for the location of a text editer for instance. Good luck with that....
Don't get me wrong, I like my Pop!_OS COSMIC very much. But there are definitely Linux derived niggles that are a PITA.
Pathrazer@reddit
You can just use 'which $name_of_executable you're trying to find' and it'll return an absolute path.
cjdubais@reddit
Unfortunately,
'which $NotepadNext' returns nothing on EOS v7.1, Same with VSCodium.
Pathrazer@reddit
Oh, sorry, if you don't know the executable's name that won't work. For VS Code (so presumably Codium as well) the executable is called 'code' so 'which code' returns something like '/usr/bin/code'.
Alternatively you could check the .desktop file from which the shortcuts in your launcher are derived. They're usually in /usr/share/applications.
Another way would be to use your package manager to list all files in the pertaining package. On Fedora you could do 'rpm -ql $PACKAGE'.
cjdubais@reddit
So, I found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1417313/can-not-find-executable-path-of-flatpak-apps
And my path is /var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/com.github.dail8859.NotepadNext
But Filezilla won't let me browse to that folder and thus can't find it.... I can get as far as /var... Checking permissions show it should have access.
Sometimes I hate Linux....
cjdubais@reddit
It would appear that this is a bridge too far.
Some discourse about it on the Filezilla forum.
middaymoon@reddit
All my flatpaks and their data are in ~/.var, isn't that pretty straightforward?
cjdubais@reddit
Ya,
Where are the "executables"? I'm using Filezilla. It wants a reference to an external editor to edit files.
I've got Notepadnext. Nothing in the .var folder is a "executable".
Same with VSCodium.
friskfrugt@reddit
Flatpak stores .desktop files in
/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share/applications/for system-wide installations and in~/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share/applications/for user-specific installationsmiddaymoon@reddit
Oh I see what you mean. Yeah for flatpaks I guess you could whip up a bash script that just calls the flatpak command for that app and point Filezilla to that. It would be nice if the installation process did that automatically.
the_MOONster@reddit
Try installing mlocate. And everything should be either in /usr/bin or /opt as far as executables go.
Abject_Abalone86@reddit
Yes but thats when you chose it. Obviously Flatpaks and Appimages are going to isolate themselves because that’s what they’re for. That sandboxing brings cross compatibility for all distros.
But this isn’t necessarily since Windows doesn’t have distros
mrlinkwii@reddit
no , ive used linux programs that have weird default placement of the application itself or config files
dreamscached@reddit
Can you name some so we can be aware of them?
friskfrugt@reddit
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/XDG_Base_Directory#Hardcoded
Abject_Abalone86@reddit
Ok, name one
Organic-Bug-2025@reddit
Yeah, I've been seeing it lately
Positive_Locksmith19@reddit
Still the situation is better on Linux.
mrlinkwii@reddit
no its not ,
the_MOONster@reddit
Worst of all: you save something to your documents folder and the file browser doesn't find it... Up until Win7 it was fairly decent, but those days are long gone.
3141592652@reddit
Some programs use app data like chrome does so does so they don't have to ask for administrator permissions to install the program. Very strange oversight that Microsoft even allows this still.
Boomer_Nurgle@reddit
While I agree it sucks I doubt it was much of a driving force for most people because most people don't really interact with that anyways.
Placidpong@reddit
Definitely, the more one gets comfortable in Linux the increasingly evident it is that the only thing Microsoft has going for it is that some large devs only make software for windows.
Snowrunner31102024@reddit
So many people talk about bloatware on Windows and almost all of them have no clue that it is easily removed with a couple of clicks.
When I installed Linux I got more "bloatware" than I ever got with Windows, and it was a pain in the ass to get rid of.
Remember, it's only bloatware if you don't use it, a lot of the bloat installed with Windows is very useful.
goober183@reddit
yeah, especially having to jump through all 7 settings apps.
DunamisMax@reddit
So - if you download and license Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 totally for free, it’s better than Linux?
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Mlch431@reddit
LTSC, in my experience, has often suffered from bugs that aren't reproducible on typical Windows installs across several applications/games. This means they don't get fixed.
GasLittle1627@reddit
Bloatwear 100% yet the this had been allways the case yet now its so obnoxious people who otherwise would have said, dont like it but im not going through the hassle of learning something new are now pushed over that edge.
I mean you pop up the start menu and you get freaking ads. On a licence you bought indeed for that rediculious price
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
Its been a while since I've seen anything resembling an actual ad in the Start menu. Aside from Microsoft upselling of its own products, and I can make those go away. And I say this as I just reinstalled 11 last week due to some issues (and I tried 3 different flavors of Linux and couldn't get any of them to work right, so there's that anecdote too).
Oh, and there is this nice PS script out on Github from some swell dude that will remove the bloat and telemetry and allow some settings changes. You can make 11 more tolerable.
Now if only I knew why my speakers wouldn't work in Kubuntu, I might not have had to revert to reinstalling Windows, but what do you know, things just work out of the box with Windows.
Don't get me wrong, I use Linux (Kali mostly) in a VM without much issue due to what I use it for, but daily driving on my main machine, has rarely been anything but a waste of time.
Real-Edge-9288@reddit
Thank god someone who share my view... as people around me always like to su*k up to windows and iOS
sascharobi@reddit
I’m using the Edu version for free and I’ve never seen any ads there.
79215185-1feb-44c6@reddit
Same thing with me and Professional versions set up with local domain accounts.
Syffingballing@reddit
Win 11 is one part, the tradewar is another. I van imagine alot of Europeans is taking the leap since the US seems abit unreliable.
LadderOfChaos@reddit
I tried Ubuntu when 14.04 was the newest version, and it was a far cry from what it is now. Ubuntu and many other distros have become a lot more accessible for newbies, so it's normal that a lot more people dare to jump into the Linux world.
J1nxers@reddit
I will soon give Linux a try too. Why? There are to many developments in Windows OS that i cant relate to. The OS itself is getting more restrictive, you got kinda bloatware Stock from Microsoft and then there is datacollection wich is getting harder to deactivate with every Gen. As i said thats my opinion not common
udi503@reddit
Fine hardware pcs running unsupported Windows 10 and Microsoft Copilot annoying users
Greymalkinizer@reddit
I've been a Linux desktop user since 1996, my brother asked me for help choosing a distro just a few months ago. He's now "linux4life" in his words because the install process didn't try to take his picture.
I have a single Windows 10 box for VR gaming specifically. If I wasn't already Linux everywhere else, I would be soon because I'm sick of it trying to force me to associate the account on my own computer with a Microsoft account and what I hear about 11 is even worse.
Hofnaerrchen@reddit
Probably because more and more people are getting fed of being infantilized by the devs of MS Windows 11 who think they know best what users want or even need.
ftgander@reddit
Windows is fine I just prefer how Linux feels to use and the freedom it provides, plus there are some Linux desktop features that most DEs have but Microsoft + Apple haven’t copied yet
Prestigious_Flow_465@reddit
Linux is a failed OS in desktop market. No mainstream software, no MS Office, no proper fonts, no good UI. Everyone gets impressed by Linux for it's terminal making them feel they're hackers with CLIs but the reality is that it's a crappy OS for consumer market.
All those witching to Linux will eventually come back to Win10/Win11 because Windows has everything and does everything Linux can.
Open source and free doesn't always mean better. Linux community has no money and no serious company is investing money time and resource in it to profit from.
My advice, sticl with Windows 10 and microsoft will be forced to extend support or will releade Win12.
Negative points for Linux:
-No good or decent software alternative.
-Has no better software in any area (except Server market)
-No good UI, touch and feel, ergonomy, experience. Too many Desktop enviroments.
-No MS Office (a master piece). Alternative suck like hell.
-Distrohopping is a nightmare.
-Lack of standardization.
It's a server/iot OS. Not for the common user!
ENDrain93@reddit
Linux is so stable you wouldn't comprehend it until you try it. Say goodbye to restarting your PC or explorer.exe because some program is acting up. I was sincerely shocked, in a good way.
But it's not gaming-ready at all, even if it's in better place now than before Steam Deck. Try using VRR, HDR and DLSS at the same time...
Great-Gazoo-T800@reddit
Two things: Windows 10 is about to be killed off and Windows 11 has a lot of bullshit that's put a lot of enthusiasts off of using it.
Let's break it down:
GAMING:
For years Steam has had a native Linux app. You can go into really any package manager and download/install it. It's no different to the Windows version. And with Proton the vast majority of games play with no issue. Yes I know certain games still have problems, especially with kernel level DRM and anti cheat, but they are largely the exception now rather than the norm.
And then we have game launchers like Lutris and Heroic Games that can install games from GOG, Epic and others with no issues.
Linux gaming now is in a far better place than it was even two or three years ago.
E-WASTE: Windows 11 has this stupid bullshit TPM 2.0 requirement that will result in pretty much most computers over a certain age to become e-waste, even if those computers are still relatively modern. My current gaming PC doesn't support it. None of my computers do, nor do the vast majority of computers in the town where I live, where most people still use older PCs.
Most Linux distros can run on the most basic piece of shit you can think of. I got a HP Stream with 2gb of ram and 32gb of emmc storage running Linux Mint and it runs better than W10 does on my gaming PC (though that's running on a mechanical HDD).
Hell, Linux Mint Cinnamon is designed to be as easy to use for beginners as possible. You never need to open terminal, you can do everything using the GUI. And as I said it runs on everything, including 15 year old shit boxes farted by HP.
Myself and a lot of others neither want nor really need Windows. I keep W10 around for the few games that don't quite work on Linux yet as well as Mod support, which looks to be changing thanks to Nexus Mods releasing a Linux Mod client.
Anyway Fuck Microsoft.
serverhorror@reddit
PewDiePie did a video
Morty_A2666@reddit
Because they don't want to be a part of the dark side anymore... Long live rebellion.
Collasox@reddit
Windows enshitification
TwoplankAlex@reddit
All the intrusive ads in the fucking search bar of windows maybe ?
_azulinho_@reddit
Because 2025 is the year of the Linux desktop
DeliciousAddress9742@reddit
When I found Linux, I was just surprised that there was an alternative to Windows. Wait... and you're telling me that it's free on top of that. And I could have access to the source code? And there's a community of folks who use this? And there's people willing to help you if you get stuck? And I won't have to deal with Windows' One Drive anymore? And I can contribute time, energy, and I could donate to my favorite projects!? Linux is like a whole new world! This is how computers should be. Let's learn more before I make the switch.
feel_the_force69@reddit
Windows 10 EOL, Windows 11, Pewdiepie...
johnspainter@reddit
I've been using puppyLinux since 2011. It loaded faster than windows 7 (at the time), it browsed the web faster (and still does). Kept windows up to Windows 10 on my machine, but last year removed windows completely and now only use both puppy and Kubuntu (which updates faster and nicer than windows EVER did). Macs are great, but the open source versions of stuff I use simply work better on Linux.
Auldnoir_@reddit
Windows bloatware and mandatory telemetry are the biggest problem I think. Also there's a lot of popularity gained by Valve's support and content creators switching to Linux.
Wailx250s@reddit
pewdiepie convinced me to try out mint
Rufus_Fish@reddit
People have been switching since "probably before you were born". You are just aware of it now. You can try it if you want to but you don't have to.
WeedAnxietyHelp@reddit
Considering like...2% of desktop users are Linux, I would say that it's still VERY unnoticeable if you aren't constantly online.
ProgrammingZone@reddit
Not 2%, but 4% according to https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide
felipec@reddit
Yeah, but not as much as now.
Why wasn't I aware of it in 2000?
Because there weren't that many.
astryox@reddit
"Ok"
xorthematrix@reddit
"wow"
WileEPyote@reddit
It's just faster and more customizable. I still keep a Windows partition around for the handful of games that don't run in linux, but I spend easily 99% of my time using linux. Once you get used to it, it's not hard at all.
Even after Windows 10 goes EOL, I'm not installing 11. I'll just keep my outdated 10 install. I literally only game on it. Don't even surf, so I'm not too worried about security. There's nothing on it. lol
Enough-Meaning1514@reddit
The fuss is about Windows turning itself into a Spyware and making stupid decisions at every turn. They also treat their end users as "Beta" testers. Every 5 weeks I am restoring my Windows 11 because 24H2 update kills the network layer (WiFi and Ethernet) and MS is not fixing it because why would they? So, what do I do? I pause the updates to the max amount (1 month), and when the timer runs out, stupid Windows auto-updates and I am back to square one!
damster05@reddit
Because Linux got better.
Top_Imagination_3022@reddit
It's a lot cooler and less noisy on this side.
praminata@reddit
In the 8bit days different systems were incompatible. Apple, Toshiba, Sinclair, Commodore etc. Even newer models from the same manufacturer were usually incompatible with older software. The 16bit days were little better. You had the Atari ST, Amiga, Dragon etc. Nobody expected compatibility.
The PC changed that.And later Apple (90s on). Suddenly you could upgrade your computer or buy a new one and expect old software to keep working (especially with PC... apple have always reserved the right to make older systems obsolete and would do it intentionally even if the underlying hardware was still capable)
The incumbent for most people and businesses was Windows. Today on Windows 11 you can probably still run an exe that was built for Windows 95 (yes, 30 years old) and if you have a 32bit copy of a windows then it can run software for Windows 3.11 (1993).
That long t term compatibility with software and games made it hard for people to switch to another OS without buying new software and relearning how am OS should function.
Microsoft also cornered the web browser market with internet Explorer and made it's own rules about how things should work. That meant that websites needed to target IE in order to be guaranteed to work in most places, leaving browsers like Safari, Opera and Mozilla more brittle. It was fucking hard too get off windows.
In the last 10 years most software is SaaS. In the browser. And browser standards are now important. More importantly the main browser engineers in use today are available on all platforms. This makes it trivial to move between Windows and Linux, especially because WINE let's your run Windows software.
And that's it. Is easy to switch now. You probably won't miss much. You can even run very old games with Dosbox.
BCBenji1@reddit
Where are you getting that info from? Friends?
ToKo_93@reddit
Probably being sick of Microsoft's policies and handling of windows 11 while deprecating windows 10.
That being said, I think older people have to stick to windows. I don't think I can train my parents to new desktop environments and programs they are not used to. They need to be safe on the Internet, so I bit the bullet and bought the cheapest think station with windows 11 support I could find.
(I know you can modify UX and use many programs for windows through wine).
PinusContorta58@reddit
If you're talking about normal people, that don't work in IT or STEM fields, probably because of PewDiePies' latest video. For IT and STEM people it's because Linux is more user friendly once you learned how to use a terminal for maintaining the system and coding. It has more built-in features that makes it more reliable and personalizable in many ways. Plus a lot of servers and super-computers runs on Linux, which makes learning Linux a forced step, although at first can appear uncomfortable. Another important thing is that it's free. If you have money and you don't use computer to play iOS is another very good alternative as it supports bash and zsh.
Next-Road6017@reddit
Right yesterday I saw this vid, he's not very technica but I think it's cool that a famous person not in Linux related content may share this and convince even more people.
PewDiePie Linux Video
CLM1919@reddit
Your question has two parts.
"Better than windows". And. "Why are people switching"
Linux offers users choices to users on how they can use their hardware. If you don't like something, find an alternative. This is a double edge sword! So...many... choices. This requires knowledge and effort in finding the "best" choices compatible to the users skill level and hardware.
why are people switching?
Microsoft herding people to win12
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
Its a cycle every time a Windows goes EOL. This isn't new. Its just a trend, maybe. Are people really flocking in droves to Linux?
SEI_JAKU@reddit
This is absolutely new. Nothing like what's going on now has ever happened before. The entire world is changing very rapidly.
jazzmatikx@reddit
Interesting. Could you elaborate?
activedusk@reddit
One perspective is simply the convergence or overlap between geopolitics and technology.
The old world order is being town down. The US used to and still does make the software and design the hardware key components, China builds it and EU regulates.
With the trade war and the US threatening to annex Greenland and entente with Russia combined with the trade war the US started with the rest of the world including the EU...at a time war is at its borders and while US can't stop talking about making Canada its 51st state and invading Greenland if buying it does not work, well, words and actions have real life consequences. The EU wants tech independence, a first step would be the OS, next the hardware. ARM exists and it is being used more and more beyond mobile but also servers, desktops and laptops but even better Risc V also is a thing a could much more realistically replace x86 CPUs for laptops and desktops medium term than ARM for several reasons, chief among them losing the licensing fee.
Linux again is an enabler as it has been the defacto OS for new architectures, it is by design maleable and the kernel and utilities can easily be morphed and adapted to run on new hardware. Starting from scratch would be ideal, but realistically one should use what is available in the first stages and maybe even medium term if the patch work solution is good enough and Linux is actually quite good enough.
The last part that is less related to geopolitics and more with the tech itself, it has become prohibitive in terms of cost. Let me explain. Compared to 2 decades ago, SSDs cost about as much as HDDs did, in fact the per GB expense is much lower when factoring inflation. RAM is much faster and you get more capacity for the same money, if you add inflation it's even gotten better. Motherboards cost about the same, indeed some higher end ones have gone insane on cost but you can still buy a motherboard at the same price as 2 decades ago and the socket will accept mid range if not even high end CPUs. Cases are about the same, sure more specialized expensive ones exist but fully functional ones are even cheaper adjusting for inflation. Fans, coolers, monitors, mouse, keyboard costs are the same, fully featured mainstream products at about the same cost but even higher resolution, refresh rate, features etc. and when adjusting for inflation it's even cheaper than 2 decades ago.
1/2 word limit
activedusk@reddit
2/2
This leaves the CPUs and GPUs and here prices have gone truly crazy. So much so that top of the line PCs can cost as much as a car. That's new. Sure decades ago you could also buy something like that but it was reserved for very niche profesional use like engineers, architects, video editing, etc. working for large companies, not for casual uses. While with CPUs you can still get decent performance in the mid range price region that has not changed for 2 decades I have followed PC tech, the high end ones with many more cores are outrageously priced. For mainstream audience those are sort of irrelevant thanks to software not quite needing or utilizing as many cores so due to partially incompetence it has saved, partially, the CPU side in terms of cost to attain high performance for average PC users....but GPUs have gone rogue. It used to be in the old days that ATI and later AMD and nvidia used to prey on the pro side with crazy GPU costs even though the hardware was not tailor made for those use cases, in most instances it was just driver optimization. Now they are preying on gamers to finance research and development for GPU compute. It started with crypto and now AI. They are including GPU logic that gamers do not need and post fact trying to come up with in game applications to justify it being there, it was physiX at some point, then excessive levels of tesselation (still recall the Crysis 2 controversy) and now raytracing and hallucinated frames that don't exist.
The consequence of this are 256 bit GPUs that used to be the mid range price option at around 150 to 250 price range (stock up to 200, the rest were board partners with larger custom coolers) and high end starting at high 200 and low 300 dollars. Now those cards are anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars or more and they are actually pushing 64bit and 128 bit for price points that used to be mid range. High end is not even worth considering for the average person. This used to be a hobby, now it's simply unaffordable and it largely is due to CPU prices partly and more so due to GPU architectures no longer being tailor to accelerate games or only games but also GPU computation tasks and gamers are bank rolling their development.
Something has to change because things are broken and it starts with the operating system that has turned on Windows into legalized spyware. I don't even care about TPM 2, in the past they used DirectX version for new OS to push people to new computers and new version of their OS, it's the security being breached by default. It used to be that you would have to install a shady program to have all that data stolen and then Microsoft thought to make their OS steal it first. Add US shenanigans, pile up hardware costs, a dash of Linux becoming good enough and a few drops of "we want tech independence" and this is the mix in the pot stirring at the moment.
CLM1919@reddit
Yes and no. Linux IS easier to install, or just run off a USB (with or without persistence) than ever before. That's "new" to the general population. There have always been people trying it out, most of them fairly tech savvy in one way or another.
The big change (IMHO) is the Linux community is about to get flooded with non technical people who see some social media and think "maybe I should wipe windows and install linux'
Winter is coming.... If asked, I implore, suggest a VM or live USB or Ventoy... Help the normies ease into it... (Meant objectively❤️)
GlamourHammer321@reddit
Windows has become malware and if you take the time to read Microsft TOS, you will realize that you don't own your computer.
Yufiyou@reddit
i switched as a boycott to US software
Initial-Letter3081@reddit
Oops. Reddit is American.
Yufiyou@reddit
its also not software its a website
Initial-Letter3081@reddit
So your reasons for boycotting US software something other than political?
Yufiyou@reddit
well id say its political but its more about trying to supporting local initiatives and less about oh this will show em
Dangerous-Safe-4336@reddit
Not only is it less prone to virus problems but it's free.
soltesza@reddit
Recall being forced on users.
(a security nightmare on the scale the world has never seen)
Kriss3d@reddit
In about a week or so. Ive seen tons of people coming to linux due to PewDiePie showing off Arch with hyperland DE. So theres been a lot of people wanting to try that.
I havent used Hyperland myself but I might look at it and see what its like.
C_lasc@reddit
PewDiePie made a video
dpn@reddit
Pewdiepie video? 🤣
xeizoo@reddit
Linux has always been interesting, but too unpolished to make it, now things are different since the Broligarchs are co-operating with Donald J Trump to possibly make you cosplay The Handmaids Tale IRL. No joke. So, Microsoft is no longer Kosher, enter Linux, but Yeah it IS unpolished. But now there's at least a very real reason to switch, to not support Broligarchy. Currently trying to use Ubuntu more(Ubuntu is based in Ireland). But Windows 11 with all it flaws is lightyears easier to use as soon as you are wanting to do something more complicated. And Linux has it's dependency-hell which can potentially break any distro anytime you do not play close attention to what you upgrade/update. It is somewhat mitigated by using Snap or Flatpak instead, but anyway.
Tony_Marone@reddit
I switched to Linux 15 years ago, I have zero regrets.
Linux gets better all the time, and I now rarely have to use the control line at all, the GUI is so good.
I'd say the best reason to switch is that you don't have to change your hardware very often, Linux works fine on older kit, and I for one, upgrade rarely, but when I do it's usually to use reconditioned newer kit.
qdrtech@reddit
Are people really switching or is it a trending topic ?
I’d argue it’s a current trending topic at the moment. The average person is not switching to daily driving a Linux distro. The average person is running whatever OS shipped with their device.
Linux is great however I wouldn’t suggest it for the average computer user unless they’re fairly technically inclined.
Windows/MacOS have their issues but they’re vastly more user friendly than most Linux distros.
Rekkeni@reddit
It's probably a Mix of Windows 11 getting worse, Linux making great progress in the past few years with Wayland, and general exposure trough Steam and the Steam Deck and with that getting more viable for gaming.
Vidy_Animates@reddit
PewDiePie's video
balacio@reddit
Have you used windows lately?
einsJannis@reddit
There are a lot of reasons: - No ads (how tf is this even a point wtf) - Lets you work with your computer the way you want to, the time you want to put into it is the limit of your imagination - Does not spy on you - No AI integration forced on you - Windows getting more annoying
dietibol@reddit
For me it was just win11 keeping on being shit and becoming worse. Couldn’t even properly hold connection with bt headphones anymore. On top of everything getting hidden away behind menus and oversimplifications of the ui never finding anything back. And the worst of all, I could not move my taskbar to the top of the screen anymore. That’s why I switched, win 11 is just shit in every way.
spicysanger@reddit
windows 10 EOL & US tariffs
anbeasley@reddit
Well Windows 10 is about to expire and windows 11 requires a TPM chip to do an upgrade. And you can do a fresh install but that's also annoying. And windows 11 just is kind of a headache in many respects... Too much extra clicking the UI is pretty cluttered although there are some improvements it's just doesn't seem worthwhile to upgrade to with the loss of privacy and all of the software as a service BS. Linux on the other hand still allows you to have a local account, and gives you absolute control over updates and software. And a lot of the software is free.
Hefty-Hyena-2227@reddit
TPM chips are kinda cool. They do have finite lifetimes, however, like all subcomponents of modern laptops and desktops, NVRAM "wears out" and there's that fly in the ointment of Morgan's theorem, processing power doubles approximately every 1.5 years! And security vulnerabilities have been around for a reeeeaaaallly long time, meaning: using a 10-year-old system "because you can" is in many ways inviting trouble. It's a personal and economic choice, too. I personally believe that OSS is, for the moment, more secure than Cupertino's or Redmond's offerings, but I'll keep an open mind and keep eyes open for when that is no longer true, then switch to something else, like Knoppix or Windows NT 3.1 or Mac Panther.
3141592652@reddit
Windows main issue is they try and maintain support for old applications which is great but they tend to leave bits in the OS that never change which leads us to the mess we have today. I don't know why we need 2 settings screens for display settings. Control panel still exists and then theirs a settings app as well like what? Seems so half assed.
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
I don't pay for any software.
Same with Windows, really.
Such a weird, almost ignorant, argument.
A-Chilean-Cyborg@reddit
windows has fell of a cliff and below there is a shit ocean.
BlobbyMcBlobber@reddit
Windows 10 now regularly shows you messages about end of the product's life and support.
AccomplishedFocus551@reddit
just use it for one month, learn some basic commands, you'll understand by yourself
djandiek@reddit
I had to switch my Mum's laptop to Linux because it would overheat and cook the CPU during bootup of Win11. When using Ubuntu, it rarely goes over 40℃
CrownstrikeIntern@reddit
Linux for work and my servers, Mac OS for my main laptop, Windows machine for gaming because, mac ....
vanceism7@reddit
I love Linux. The only reason I use Windows is because I write music and ilok and other elicensers dont work on Linux. Ah the day I can run my vsts on Linux, I will switch and never look back!
Merlin80@reddit
windows has become worse and linux has become better.
AnonEMouse@reddit
Have you used Windows 11 lately?
Cliffton-Shepard@reddit
So everyone's got their reasons and have shared the obvious ones already. As for me, I'm also considering jumping ship and a big part of that is the hype. Another part to it is that I rather enjoy tinkering with things, especially software, and have no loyalty to Windows or Mac. I've been on Windows my whole life as that's just what was used in my circles and at my schools and all that, I even stuck with it for the ups and downs. I don't have much issue with it's current state outside of privacy concerns, but I'm looking for something new, something that might actually make me loyal to it.
OldCoat9037@reddit
Here's how they line up IMO from my Experience (Sorry if wrong):
Well, the above is from my POV and may not be 100% true. I started with Ubuntu, and when I tired to use a windows laptop, it felt very uncomfortable.
The only two wins Windows would have are 1) Software Compatibility (which Linux made possible with Proton, Soberwine, etc) and apparently User-friendly GUI (it isn't) (Linux is adding more and more GUI per update while keeping the CLI still strong - Powershell ain't gonna cut it)
AGAIN, if I'm wrong, then I apologize.
humanshield85@reddit
We reached a point where the inconveniences of Linux are nothing compared to the crap and bloat that comes with windows.
Microsoft again giving us all the features no one asked about. We just want an OS . I don't want to create a Microsoft account. I don't want Ai bullshit. I don't want the news and wether. I just want an operating system where I add programs and tools I use. Don't want my CPU to be at 25% at idle.
I have been using Linux since Ubuntu 12.04, but I always have to keep dual boot because not all software work on Linux. But gaming on Linux is really getting there ouf the things we have now it's amazing
UncleSpellbinder@reddit
People are coming to their senses? I haven't used Windows on any of my home PCs or laptops in over a decade. And I couldn't be happier. Too bad I'm stuck with Windows 11 at work.
1fojv@reddit
Windows is basically spyware now.
Granixo@reddit
Watch the lastest PewDiePie video.
ZeroHolmes@reddit
Due to the end of support for Windows 10, many people have hardware that is not compatible with Windows 11. And there is the issue of privacy due to Recall as well.
ExtremePresence3030@reddit
Three types of people consider migration:
Budget concerned ones: Their Windows 10 license is not receiving Support anymore and they can’t spend for Windows 11 so they consider migrating to Linux. They are all about “Give it to me for free”.
Tech Nerds ones: These are tech-worms majority into coding or basically have enthusiasm in that. They don’t mind lack of clean UI to take care of all the needs they don’t mind using terminal commands for troubleshooting and etc due to lack of UI for those in Linux. They aim for being power-users. They are a minority which we can call Linux Community. They don’t represent average consumer users.
-Privacy concerned ones: They are highly annoyed with data horsing of Microsoft.(However it can be minimized by a very good degree in Windows. They’re are guidelines about it how to make windows almost private)
So yes, if you are any of these you might consider Linux, but you survive with it or not, all depends on your willingness to adjust to its lack of powerful UI for consumer users. So far random Linux distros just drop a few themes and they think they are as user-friendly as Windows and Mac when it comes to UI. A user-friendly UI should be independent of commands for average user as much as possible.
bsigil@reddit
Win10 is reaching end of life this year and my PC it too old to install win11.
Ornery-Addendum5031@reddit
It’s the least fascist desktop
Dtjosu@reddit
My thought is that more users are getting a taste of Linux with some of the new programming tools, AI tools, etc so they naturally are willing to try out Linux as a main OS. Also, using Linux on WSL lets more people try it out or add it to their workflow. Also, I think with younger people getting experience earlier and with more advanced projects, Linux makes more sense.
katt3985@reddit
people don't like being locked into things when those lock-ins come with unneeded ads. or just being told what to do. but that's how you have to use windows. Linux on the other hand doesn't have those issues, and the steam deck showed people you can game there.
fewer barriers and more pain points on the lock-ins mean that people are more likely to check out or commit to an alternative.
Sonario648@reddit
Windows 11 being a pile of shit, and end of life fast approaching.
muffinstatewide32@reddit
Is it better? Depends what you do with your computer Is it better for me? absolutely. I share most of the same reasons as pewds. Mostly the part when it’s a system that serves you, not corporate greed
Lou-Saydus@reddit
Windows 10 hit EOL, windows 11 is growing increasingly into an always-online-only experience, and Microsoft is pushing extremely intrusive screenshotting/remote reporting software into windows.
WarOctopus@reddit
Both Windows and Mac OS have become close to useless
A_Better42@reddit
Also linux has gotten a lot better at being friendly to switchers.
station_wlan0@reddit
It absolutely is. In my view, the only exceptions are if you need to use the Adobe Suite or something like that.
ten-oh-four@reddit
I made a comment but I'm going to make a simpler one.
The philosophical difference between Windows and linux, at this point, can be summarized by saying this:
Linux is an operating system developed by users of the operating system trying to make the operating system do cool stuff.
Windows is an operating system developed by employees for a company trying to drive up share value. Most things that Microsoft will build are not for the user, they are for the shareholder.
muffinstatewide32@reddit
This is actually a really good way to explain the difference
ten-oh-four@reddit
Thanks!
UncleObli@reddit
Linux got better, yes, but Microsoft got so much worse it's doing the lion's share of the work for us.
rawednylme@reddit
For sure this. It's like the OS actively tries to get in your way at times. A new Windows 11 install is a miserable experience. The constant notifications!
My laptop has worse battery life on a stock Windows install, than a Mint install. With the debloat stuff ran, it's about the same. That just shows how much rubbish must be happening at all times in the background though.
dandereshark@reddit
Pewds made the barrier to entry less daunting, finding out that I can game just fine because official nvidia driver support, and much like my love for driving manual cars, I like a little bit of challenge and freedom of choice with my devices. I've used it on and off for years on secondary devices that don't need much more than Web browsing and light coding, dad making me use it before I was 10, and my visceral hate for the inevitable shift to win11 the choice was hate my home system because m$ is making my system work harder than needed when idle of hate my system but at least I can fix it.
Truly I think Pewds really proved that Linux is perfectly fine and as long as you're techie enough you can get through the problems. I am looking forward to when my new ssd arrives and I can start really making an effort to migrate to KDE
fourpastmidnight413@reddit
Because finally people are fed up with Microsoft. I mean, it took me 35 years, but I made the switch 3 years ago. Gosh how I don't miss Windows.
Don't get me wrong. I dabbled with Linux off and on over the last 25 years. But for me, it really feels like Linux was viable for me only within the last 8 - 10 years. Again, my personal opinion based on how I use my computer. Also, not to mention my lack of Linux command line skills didn't help. But really, in the last decade, Linux is even more user friendly than it ever has been--granted not quite as hand-holding as Windows. But if you want hand-holding, then just use Windows. Once you learn some basic skills, Linux is a breath of fresh air.
Now, if only hardware manufacturers would support the OS more--things like peripherals (looking at you Logitech), atd audio interface cards, video card manufacturers (they're getting there!), etc.
calinet6@reddit
That is basically why.
Serious_Vast_4937@reddit
MS ending support for Windows 10 in Oct 2025. You likely will need to upgrade your CPU and motherboard to upgrade to Win11. Hence, the exodus to Linux.
Dantalianlord71@reddit
Let's see where I start 😅.
Microsoft is making many bad decisions, it all started with the end of support for Windows 10, a fairly polished system and suitable even for old PCs like my HP Notebook 2000 from 2011, forcing users to move to an incomplete and broken operating system such as Windows 11, the policy of having to use the Microsoft account, the TPM requirement, the bitlocker problem that there are already many complaints of data loss due to its mandatory integration with the Microsoft account, the recent update that has many PCs on the verge of cardiac arrest, the incompatibility that Windows 11 is having with quite old software and games (the only thing that was really valuable about Windows was its years-old compatibility), the Office Web policy with mandatory Ads, the new user data collection policies (they are quite annoying to people who want to have a certain degree of privacy), the FPS drops that games give in Windows 11, there are so many things that it is better to read those disasters directly from the Microsoft Forum. Last but not least, the new SteamDeck with SteamOS and the Proton system (Wine base) to run Windows games on Linux, this is a bomb since for some reason the Windows games emulated in Proton are having better performance than in Windows itself, it's even funny. And we also have PewDePie and his new video using Arch. Add all that up and you have your answer pretty clear.
Oflameo@reddit
Pewdiepie said he ran Linux.
Successful-League840@reddit
I haven't switched yet but I will be before October. In simple terms it's because I'm a gamer and primarily use Steam. I didn't know Linux supported Steam or even that AAA games were playable on Linux. I'd heard in the past it was difficult to game on Linux and just took that to be fact... It's not.
I recently purchased a Steam deck for gaming and playing around with the Linux OS completely sold me. It's simple, functional, fully customisable, No bloatware or adds shouting at you etc.
In addition to this Windows/Microsoft is just a terrible company. They feel that because they've been on top so long they can do whatever they want and we will just suffer through it. More bugs that I can count with windows 11, Forced AI integration, Heavy and in your face advertising, A metric ton of useless applications that no one asked for installed with windows. Not to mention them slowly changing to the Apple business model not supporting compatibility.
Djglamrock@reddit
They “whatever that vague word means” aren’t. Social media makes you think lots of people are.
devHead1967@reddit
Because it's a real good product compared to other operating systems. If you have never used Linux, you cannot understand fully. And if you're thinking of trying it out, please don't start with Arch. Start with Linux Mint or Ubuntu.
unclearimage@reddit
If Windows made more products like Windows 7, or to a lesser extent windows 10 this wouldn't be an issue.
But for some baffling reason Microsoft is determined to make diet-Mac with metro apps duct-taped on top of classic Windows control panel functions.
In short Microsoft is making the distro they want you to want to use. Not the one people actually want to use, with a coating of advertising, spamware, adware, and A.I. shit.
ten-oh-four@reddit
Microsoft has decided that you, the user, now have to buy hardware they find acceptable, they can advertise to you and it's baked into the OS, you need an account with them just to login to your own damn computer, and they're horrible horrible horrible for privacy.
On the flip side, linux won't install anything you don't want or need (depending on distro, but point remains), it'll be much more lightweight, your hardware purchases will last a much longer time if the Win10->Win11 thing is any evidence, you won't have spyware at the OS level, you won't have adware at the OS level, you won't be sending back God knows how much data to Microsoft, the whole "Recall" ~~feature~~ atrocity is back in Windows and will never be in linux. Couple that with being able to do all your Office stuff with web apps, and the fact that Proton is a thing and Valve has been able to push gaming compatibility to such high levels...to me it's kind of a no-brainer.
AxolotlGuyy_@reddit
It is the best alternative to Windows, but if you ask why leave Windows, there are a lot of different reasons, bloatware (apps installed without you wanting it, like copilot), hard customization, you need to pay to have all the features, it is a very heavy system (both 10 and 11), bugs and glitches (that are usually easier to fix on Linux)
dudeness_boy@reddit
YouTubers like PewDiePie, Windows 10 EOL, Windows 11 getting even worse.
Severe_Mistake_25000@reddit
There are several reasons:
The first being all the bloatware and other spyware integrated into the system.
The second being the lack of hardware support for the system on machines that do not have TPM 2.0 which began to be deployed from 2016. In fact, PCs that are still in very good condition cannot receive Windows 11.
The third being that the barrier to adoption of Linux as a gaming platform no longer holds since the investments that Valve has made in the SteamDeck which allows many Steam games to be run on its system which is a Linux distribution.
As you also have the majority of software for most tasks, available in the application store, nothing prevents the transition to a lighter and faster OS.
___nutthead___@reddit
Since Windows 7, Linux has become better year after year and Windows has become worse whenever a new version/update has been released.
Iamalonelyshepard@reddit
It's a good skill to have if you work in tech.
SaintEyegor@reddit
And really good Linux admins are in high demand
batteryhf@reddit
Here is no reason needed for love.
ninjasninjas@reddit
PewDiePie, obviously.. sheesh.
Bohemio_RD@reddit
Windows 11
Shadow_Bisharp@reddit
i’ve been meaning to switch for a while but i only did recently because my winter school term ended
MrSmithLDN@reddit
Both Microsoft and Apple enforce obsolescence on machines. I don’t want a commercial company to tell me to replace my computer. In addition, license fees add up over time. Linux runs through a global community of users!
Manachi@reddit
Linux is FREE.
RenDiv_ios@reddit
No forcing windows updates.
There are less background services running so it uses less ram and cpu therefore the whole system is more responsive when I click stuff.
If I don’t like a feature in my desktop, I can replace it with something I do like because Linux is very customizable.
If new hardware comes out, I can download the newest kernel and get the drivers for it. With windows sometimes you need to update the entire computer to get the latest drivers which might make my desktop look different or make my pc run slower
HateMeetings@reddit
Some of us wonder what took so long
C_Dragons@reddit
MS-Win is an environment in which consumers have been conditioned to pay fees to do all kinds of things the rest of the world does without a subscription or a license payment, and MSFT’s track record on security is shockingly bad. Linux has its problems, but anything you pay to fix is yours forever.
slightlydainbramaged@reddit
I feel that there isn't a real increase in new Linux users. You just weren't aware of how many were switching over before.
LaOnionLaUnion@reddit
Recall. 😆
dogface3247@reddit
Trust me you will go back.
BigGunE@reddit
Every year 10s of people end up switching to Linux. It is a normal thing. Years ago, I made that good decision too and I am happy :D
FlailingIntheYard@reddit
By Windows 7 I was already sick of updating and eventually reinstalling it and everything after.
I can't stand the pre-installed software anymore. I'm talking pre-"(psudo)AI". The games, the apps, the "Free for.." all of it. I'm just not doing it anymore. They get my data, in exchange I get a OS burried in bullshit.
No thanks.
emceeboils@reddit
This is just me wishcasting but I hope at least some of the converts can be attributed to Microsoft and Apple jamming unwanted "AI" crap into absolutely everything and that cheesing enough people off to finally take the leap.
Realistically though it's probably PewDePie, whose name I may have spelled wrong and am not going to look up.
mouselett@reddit
Sorry to be that guy, but you did spell it wrong. It’s “PewDiePie”.
emceeboils@reddit
I'm the one who refused to Google, you apologize for nothing
ohcibi@reddit
How bad windows really is you can really only understand if you have seen real computers. More important question too you should be do you needed. Despite steamos windows is still the most important OS for gaming. Also consider many people switch just to say they did but they don’t know why either. If you need a computer for work, hence a computer so reliable to never fail you, Linux is of course much better. You can have longer uptimes without rebooting than you can have a decent windows experience without reinstalling windows (always do this before buying new hardware when you feel your pc became slow. It’s mostly windows and not the hardware.) you never have to reinstall Linux. Not for new hardware not for nothing.
Note how you are ignoring any type of error message. That’s because windows error messages are completely useless. So much so you changed your behavior adapting to it. With Linux you read all error messages because they tell you how to fix it.
Software you install is guaranteed to be what it says and 100% free of viruses and stuff. You will understand how the Microsoft App Store and even windows forced update is in fact a good thing. Not only but also because updates can be almost free of annoyance and install within less than a second per update. Yes a single update is smaller than in windows update. The whole update process is still. Lot faster and you can tell this by how fluid the updates are made.
Another reason is that Linux doesn’t increase its hardware requirements for no reason. My 4gb RAM laptop runs as smooth as it did ten years ago. Latest windows would wreck its hardware
swiss__blade@reddit
Maybe because they got tired of their OS serving them ads without giving them the option to turn them off? Or maybe because they don't like it when their OS takes up so much space without providing any additional functionality...
AtomicTaco13@reddit
InkOnTube@reddit
There are multiple reasons.
My personal is Recall + Copilot. Even though EU laws protect us from it to a degree, those things are still being installed just 'turned off by default'. I am not willing to let MS decides that is ok to break the law and pay the fine.
A lot of people have repulsion towards Win11. I was ok with it but then again, in the EU it might be a different experience. So a lot of people have their Win10 out of life support coming in closer and MS is advising them to either switch to Win11 or buy a new PC if they can't upgrade.
Bloat and legacy issues is something that makes Windows bad. It wouldn't be the case if they would actually care about the polish of Windows, but even in Windows 11 you can find traces (i.e. icons) from Windows 3 - WTF? It is worth mentioning that this bloat is making Windows unnecessary sluggish.
Linux is free and quite functional. A lot of people can have an easy transition to let's say Linux Mint. Not to mention that virtually everything that you need from your PC at home, Linux facilitate without issues. Some applications and practices need to be changed yes, but all in all, you are getting a good operating system which has no attachment to certain corporation which enforces certain things onto how will user use their PC.
staggspirit@reddit
Recall and Copilot are why I switched full time
SiXandSeven8ths@reddit
What specifically is the "repulsion towards Win11"?
Its Win10 with a half-assed new coat of paint (some things look nice, others still very dated). Yeah, there's some extra "bloat", I guess, but most of this can be removed (or ignored) as well if you know what to do. I am not, however, seeing any of your examples of bloat making Windows "unnessary sluggish."
InkOnTube@reddit
For me, it was OK, but again, I am in the EU, so I am not aware of how aggressive MS is with ads. However, a lot of people are resilient to change even if it is superficial. For example, they have again redesigned settings area, they have overhauled the start menu and behavior of the task bar, also context menu is very compressed and you need an extra click for all options as seen in the previous version of Windows. These are just small irrelevant things for some users (like me), but for others, it is a major issue. Some say there were performance issues initially.
There are some other things, but everyone have their own reason for disliking it.
linuxluser@reddit
Copilot.
numblock699@reddit
Almost no one is switching.
diito_ditto@reddit
I'd imagine a lot if the recent interest is coming from the rest of the world boycotting and moving away from US companies. Why would you rely on a OS the Trump regime could pressure/force into giving them some sort of backdoor into, etc. I wouldn't trust a Chinese OS for the same reason. Linux does suffer from that issue. It's fully open source, and an international effort that no single entity controls.
Linux is already everywhere. Most servers, most smart phones (Android), appliances, embedded systems, game consoles, etc. The desktop has always been very usable. I've run it on my work/personal systems since ~2003. There was more of a challenge in those earlier days but nothing some savvy enough couldn't handle. Now there's really nothing you can't run/do with a Linux desktop that you can do on Windows/Mac. Adobe is pretty much it, although there are alternatives and Adobe is probably going to be all SAAS (online) soon. Most games seem to run fine these days.
Santolmo@reddit
Microsoft promoted win10 to be the "definitive" version of Windows yet here we are with another release full of bloatware that can't be installed on not-that-old hardware.
Heck, even windows 10 is so bloated that if you don't have an ssd it will take an eon just to boot (no joke, my ryzen 5 3400G desktop took 25 mins just to boot from an hdd, I had to buy an ssd and clone all my stuff because I got fed up.)
I am considering switching but sadly I have so much files, programs and stuff on my pc that I'd rather keep tolerating the mess of an os that windows is.
Also I just don't want to deal with the drivers and compatibility, on windows you plug a device and that's it. Maybe when linux gets better at that will be the day that I say
"F- you Microsoft"
JumpingJack79@reddit
1) Windows is bad to begin with. Very bloated, very wasteful with resources. It constantly runs background processes like antivirus, updates and telemetry, and these are extremely heavy-handed processes. Antivirus seemingly scanning your entire drive once a day (not sure if that's true, but why else does it easily take 10-20 minutes of heavy disk/CPU usage after it wakes up and nothing has changed since the previous day?). Updates are annoying because they also slow down your PC and force you to restart. And I don't even want to know what telemetry is doing that constantly takes up a non-trivial amount of CPU.
2) If you're running games, the above bloat will in many/most cases cause significant stutter and FPS drops.
3) Windows 10 support is ending and Windows 11 is forcing people to update their hardware so that Microsoft can shove Copilot down their throats, even if they don't want it. This is terrible. One shouldn't need to upgrade their PC just to run an OS in 2025 when PCs have been perfectly capable of "running an OS" for at least 20 years now. It would have been ok to add an optional AI feature to the OS that may not work on all hardware, but to outright force people to "upgrade or else" is just criminal. Just think about all the waste and ecological damage caused by all the people upgrading who have no reason to upgrade (not to mention people being forced to spend money for no good reason).
4) It has ads! A paid OS has ads, because clearly Microsoft doesn't have enough money and needs more, wtf???
5) Privacy issues.
6) Security issues. Most malware and viruses are for Windows.
StevieRay8string69@reddit
I doubt many stay on Linux.
Psychological-Tap834@reddit
Steam deck making proton insanely good, mainstream YouTubers including pewdiepie now pushing it, and windows 10 coming to its end of life leaving many unable to upgrade or who don’t want to
AdmiralPegasus@reddit
I personally am getting bloody sick of Windows being filled with bloat-spyware, advertising to me in the start menu, trying to conflate local and internet search, and now (the straw that broke my camel's back) needing to be comprehensively fucked about with to kill LLM features I object to, so I'd rather look into Linux than upgrade to Windows 11 which has the things Windows 10 is annoying me with but worse.
Beginning_Phrase_97@reddit
I am not being told by Microsoft that I should buy a new PC just because it suits them. My PC works fine with different Linux distributions. Microsoft have gone too far now with hardware requirements, telemetry and copilot and all their other bullshit. I am done with Microsoft.
WinstonTheChicken@reddit
I went from win10 to Linux had problems and switched back to win10. than I downgraded to win11 and had way more problems than the small things with Linux (pretty much only gaming related problems).
after I tried win11 my pc stopped working at least once a day so I had to manually press the reset button in my case. the problem I have with win11 is a known problem, which (sadly) is not just a single case, but apparently many people had similar problems.
so it's just better to switch os and try something different.
msg_mana@reddit
There's been a massive wave because of Windows being a dogshit company. Discontinued support for Win10. Win11 is garbage. Also very recently PewDiePie switched. So there's another massive influx of people feeling confident enough to handle Linux. All pretty cool.
bjoswald83@reddit
Windows 11, Steam Deck popularity, etc
Repulsive-Sun5134@reddit
It's the year of the Linux Desktop. 🤔
Achieenone@reddit
Watch Fireship on YtB 😅 On a serious note doe! Linux specially the highly customizable distros give you the true freedom of your machine, you choose what to install- configure-customize... Etc. And ooo man this is just the Tip of thr iceberg!
1D6wounds@reddit
Personally I started considering switching when Windows started installing stuff I didn't ask for like a meet button (video conference) in the taskbar. I had nothing in particular that forced me to use Windows so I did a little "distro hopping" using a spare drive. Fast forward a few months and Windows tells me that my fully functional computer wouldn't support Win11. I know there are workarounds but I feel I shouldn't have to do that. Been using Linux full time for a year now and not looking back.
KingDominoTheSecond@reddit
The reason I did it is because my laptop, which is only about 3 years old now, was running so incredibly slow. Paired with all the bloat that Windows 11 includes and the frustrations I had with its bugs, and suddenly I just snapped, got super pissed off and installed Linux Mint.
I've been happier, especially with battery life somehow being FAR better, we are talking like 10+ hours of screen on time while doing light work-related tasks.
There's definitely a learning curve though, and I'm currently dealing with losing some tools that I used a lot on Windows, like Proton Drive and OneNote.
falafelspringrolls@reddit
Windows 10 EoL. My i5 6 series isn't new enough for Windows 11. That was the tipping point for me.
Lord Gabens work with steam / proton definitely made the move a lot easier to digest
Maleficent_Plenty_16@reddit
2025, year of the Linux desktop
Dry_Marionberry_5354@reddit
You're using Linux all the time because you're using the internet. And you probably use Linux on your phone. You also use Linux on your router, etc.
gyuszixr@reddit
Cuz Microsoft sucks dick
mailboy79@reddit
Every time one of the "better" versions of Windows moves to "end of life" there is a small uptick in interest regarding Linux. This has happened before, and will happen again.
DependentOpinion7699@reddit
Windows EOL
But also Windows is now spyware made to feed the AI bubble.
Most importantly, Linux is more viable than ever
Internal_Issue1@reddit
Windows is closed source Microsoft controlled spyware while Linux is open source and believes in freedom of usability with many distros focusing on privacy and security
iheartrms@reddit
Of course it's better. I switched in 1995. It's been awesome.
weblscraper@reddit
Pewdiepie
Dingbat1967@reddit
I have played with various flavors of linux over the past 20 years but gaming has always been the show stopper. Of course you had Wine and all that but I just felt like it was too much trouble.
When I heard that Microsoft told OEMers that they wouldn't let you install Windows 11 on 9th and 10th gen Intel, that's the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Not sure what it implies - does that mean if I get an OEM key for my 10th gen Intel machine I won't be able to install it withouth any hacks? Really, pardon my language but fuck this shit.
So I installed linux Mint on my wintel box (i5-10600KF, 32 gigs of RAM, RX 6600) and bang - it just works. Install steam, with proton... my games just work. At this point, I did this about 4 months ago? I've been running on that machine 2 months in. Only game I don't use on that platform is Star Citizen.
Microsoft is going to be generating so much corporate and end-user E-waste because of this bullshittery, it's mind boggling.
7th and 8th gen Intel machines, or Ryzen 1000/2000 series CPUs are still fine for daily tasks... it really deeply offends me morally that these machines will be rendered obsolete because of dumb ass corporate decisions.
ProPolice55@reddit
I switched fairly recently, a few months ago. Windows 10 will become unsupported (which is a security issue) later this year, Windows 11 has the built-in AI whatever that constantly records what you're doing, basically malware dressed up as a useful feature. There's also the increasing number of ads in the system. A system that costs a not insignificant amount of money. I've also found that if there's an issue with Windows, the system won't let me fix it if it's in-depth. The thing that made me pull the trigger was when I moved the MS Store version of Forza Horizon 5 to another drive to save space, and it got copied instead and hidden in the original location. That was 150gb gone, couldn't find a solution that worked. So I did the reasonable thing and backed everything else up, then formatted the drive and installed Mint on it. It has its issues at first, but I learned the quirks in a week or so and now it's solid and does everything I want to do (except Forza). The only problem I have is that I don't have proper audio drivers, but a $10 USB sound card solves that issue, and even without it, it sounds decent in software mode.
The other thing is that by forcing people to move to Windows 11, they are essentially telling them to spend a pile of money and learn a new OS. So people choose to learn a new free OS on the hardware they already have instead. My first gen i3 laptop works just fine with the heaviest version of Mint, and even older hardware could run decently with a lighter distro. A 10-15 year old laptop could be used as a perfectly serviceable daily driver.
atomic1fire@reddit
Probably a mix of steam OS hype, strong overlap between pc and console gaming making the differences fairly negligible outside of mods, and a general disdain for Microsoft's software as a service approach sacrificing user facing features for constant sales pushes.
RealDeicide@reddit
Pewdiepie and Microsoft sucking got ass
Patient-Low8842@reddit
When you have hardware that works with Linux is just works it’s fucking beautiful. I installed it and my wifi, Bluetooth, GPU Drivers, Chipset Drivers, all of it just worked. I installed Linux then ran a “sudo dnf install “insert all the apps you want” and then installed my games. I also have the ability to customize so much I don’t need to do some crazy workaround to run a offline account, I don’t have to restart because of updates constantly, the whole pc feels so snappy, my performance in games got better. All the while I feel better about myself for escaping the death grip of Microsoft’s and all their ads and spyware.
AliveState7@reddit
Any Distros good for gaming?
CeruLucifus@reddit
Microsoft is continuing to add software bloat, opt me in to services I don't want, and reverses my removals of these things without telling me. Further, my computer equipment works perfectly fine even though it doesn't have a TPM chip.
thracia@reddit
Some are switching for security reasons. Americans have elected a Russian asset called Donald Trump. And he is pro-Russian. And companies that are in countries that are under Russian threat do not want to use any Russian or pro-Russian software for security reasons.
raulgrangeiro@reddit
Linux today works pretty well and Windows 10 is getting End Of Life.
TurncoatTony@reddit
Because Microsoft has been garbage for a long time.
redbluemmoomin@reddit
not Windows 11 which a lot of people hate.
susosusosuso@reddit
I duct know why. It works perfectly fine for me
KaosC57@reddit
Sure, it functions. But it also has major privacy and security concerns. On top of that, it has a high amount of viruses that are made exclusively for Windows.
Putting Linux on a computer makes it SIGNIFICANTLY less prone to failure due to external tampering.
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
After this comment i feel its important to state, that linux not holding your hand also involves it not having an anti-virus solution.
Sure, there is the firewall, but having a robust setup is still not trivial.
It doesnt matter, how black mirror-y microsoft gets with windows, WindowsDefender is still a major help with peoples cyber security.
Revolutionary_Click2@reddit
ClamAV exists. Sophos also has a consumer-facing AV for Linux. For businesses, many commercial business AV vendors and “next-generation antivirus” products like SentinelOne support Linux endpoints.
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
ima save this comment.
only knew about clamAV, and kinda maybe about the thing john hammond promotes sometimes.
, not those other things tho.
ps.: aah! found it, but its a threat intel thing, ...idk what that is lol
Revolutionary_Click2@reddit
You really don’t need antivirus for a Linux desktop machine. ClamAV is sufficient if you want to run a scan every now and then.
That’s not necessarily because Linux is way more secure than Windows, though it is pretty secure—it’s because no one makes viruses targeting desktop Linux. They don’t make them because it’s still a very small number of people who use Linux compared to Windows or macOS, so malware developers will target platforms where they can find the most victims.
More involved “next generation” AV products like SentinelOne are generally needed and used only by businesses, governments and so on. Linux machines protected by such products are typically servers, which are a much bigger target than desktop Linux because Linux servers run most of the Internet and serve lots of critical roles in enterprise, government and so on as well.
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
The argument that "nobody make linux malware cause linux rare" always makes me uneasy. I would bet money, that a bunch of those users are going to get got on the back of that attitude. (Probably a good idea to put that asterisk on that one, but hey! Idk im just spitballing here, nothing serious.) Also, idk, that like a basic hardening is defending against malware specifically, im not dailying a linux system, so it wasnt too much of a priority to care about that.
And vm/sandbox busting malware is super scary. But in the end, yeah linux is way more security minded, and the user has a lot more control(and responsibility handed to them). Something something... whatever else i wanted to say...
Revolutionary_Click2@reddit
Well, you could buy a one-user license for something like SentinelOne, Cylance, CarbonBlack etc. SentinelOne runs about $10/month for the basic package, I believe. It’s definitely overkill for a home user, but you’d be very well protected.
FWIW, I’ve been working in IT for about 15 years, doing everything from helpdesk to high-level engineering roles. I know a fair bit about the subject, and I can tell you that in my entire career I have literally never heard of or encountered any desktop malware package for Linux, ever. Not one time. While it may happen, it is so vanishingly rare that it’s not even worth mentioning.
The other thing to remember here is that folks typically get malware from running a booby-trapped executable they downloaded from the Internet. Typically, one installs software on Linux via a package manager, so there’s no need to run random shit you found online. Just stick to the default repositories for any respectable distro, and you’ll be fine. Use your distro’s “app store” app or Flathub to install apps and don’t run any weird curl commands you find in sketchy forum posts, and you’ll be fine. If you’re using Arch or a derivative, be aware that anything from the AUR is software uploaded by other users whose provenance hasn’t been verified, so install AUR packages at your own risk.
The only other way you might realistically get infected with malware as an end user is some kind of browser exploit. But that would probably need to be a zero-day exploit, as such things are usually patched quite quickly in mainstream browsers like Chrome and Firefox. And the malware developers would have to combine it with a serious unpatched Linux vulnerability of some kind to infect your system without you typing your password and granting permission, which is the kind of thing you really only need to worry about if you’re potentially a target of sophisticated state-sponsored hackers, like if you’re a prominent Russian dissident journalist or something.
This could certainly change if Linux suddenly gets a LOT more popular… if it surges past 10% market share, I imagine some threat actors will start to make more malware for the platform. But despite that being the premise of this thread, I’m not sure I buy the idea that “so many” are switching to Linux lately. PewDiePie makes one video, and suddenly half the Internet thinks it’s the mythical Year of the Linux Desktop, but in the end I would be absolutely shocked if the needle moved past even 5% (it’s something like 2.5% now) as a result of that one video. Most people don’t know how to install a new OS on their computer, they just use whatever OS the computer came with, and that will probably continue to be the case for the foreseeable future.
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
Sending some more thought upvotes, cause i can give only one thats real ;)
Revolutionary_Click2@reddit
Breathe a sigh of relief, my friend, that you really don’t need to worry about malware on Linux or pay the “security tax” that many Windows and increasingly even macOS users feel forced to pay.
Personally, I run an immutable distro (Fedora Silverblue), with regularly scheduled ClamAV scans on my machine. I pipe all of my event logs into my home lab Wazuh instance, which is an open source SIEM that aggregates log and security event data from my various computers and network devices and alerts me if anything suspicious occurs. I also run an OPNsense VM as my router/firewall, which is a very robust enterprise-grade open source firewall software based on FreeBSD, with Suricata IDS/IPS, CrowdSec bouncer, Unbound DNS block lists to filter malicious sites at the DNS layer, gateway-level ClamAV via c-icap, SSL/TLS-decrypting Squid reverse proxy and a ZenArmor Home next-generation firewall / web filtering subscription.
Why? Because I’m chief engineer and owner of an IT managed service provider and open-source-focused cybersecurity firm. I’m a huge nerd for this stuff, I enjoy setting it up, and I need to be damn sure my shit isn’t infiltrated because I may actually be a target of highly motivated hackers trying to infiltrate my business. And I wanted to test all of this stuff out before I deployed it to customers. Most people have no need of the type of extreme security measures I use on my devices, and even I don’t run commercial AV on them because such programs are also a form of spyware that I don’t want invading my privacy on my personal machines.
Moltenlava5@reddit
The vast majority of viruses originate from people trying to install stuff from shady websites, you don't have that problem with Linux, everything is done via the package manager.
Sure an antivirus makes sense if you're running some enterprise machine where someone is making a targeted attack, but you're going to have to search quite hard to accidentally get a virus on Linux considering that the majority target windows.
null0x@reddit
Install ClamAV?
wolfefist94@reddit
I work in embedded, so all of my tools Just Work™️ in Linux. Windows... not so much. I use a dedicated mini PC that runs Linux for all of my Embedded "stuff". And if we're being honest, all of the engineers in my company(except for the mechanical engineers) could use Linux as their daily driver. The only real reason why the majority of us haven't made the full switch is momentum and Visual Studio.
susosusosuso@reddit
Well you’re talking of a very specific scenario. I was speaking as a regular non technical user
YouRock96@reddit
Sometimes I'm reminded of this Deck fans hatred of Switch, so unfounded and based on propaganda within the community itself
redbluemmoomin@reddit
Windows 11 is a terrible OS. Compare the ad infested, data scraping mess that would rather do what it wants. Not what you told it to do. To Windows 7 which was the highpoint. Been downhill ever since.
YouRock96@reddit
I'm using a special build where a lot of things already pre-patched as my side OS on a separated SSD. And no, it doesn't download updates until I allow and disable it because I know what patches are needed for this. It seems to me that you are mistaken because you do not understand the issue in detail. It's literally a W10 just with some modified components. By the way, it has some advantages like WSL built into the file system, or higher performance in games.
redbluemmoomin@reddit
so suppressing potentially critical updates including security patches. You're having to go all around the houses to make a shitter version of Windows more palatable. Busy work OS🤦
WSL🤣🤣🤦it's still slower and more of a bodge than running on a representative environment to prod.
YouRock96@reddit
Dude, I use Win where I need Win tasks, if you limit your options, that's another question.
redbluemmoomin@reddit
it's a terrible Copilot infested mess.
LLMs and the level of integration Copilot has with MS applications and their version of ChatGPT has uses in the commercial world. However it's context scrapping ways have no place on a home desktop.
You're a big juicy data pinata for MS to stick a straw in your data and slurp it out. No thank you.
YouRock96@reddit
I don't have a Copilot, it's just cut out. I do not know what you mean.
redbluemmoomin@reddit
MS are integrating Copilot into everything including applications. You're not going to avoid it. Copilot is a huge play for MS they are integrating it into all of their products. As part of my job I see MS product updates.
YouRock96@reddit
Ok ok but I didn't saw it and I'm not using their apps at least
divorceevil@reddit
Heck yeah it's better: more secure, crashes are rare, It's FREE unless you want to pay, updates also free, customizable and tweekable to your heart's content but best of all ... No evil overlord named "Microsoft"
MairusuPawa@reddit
By using Windows, you side with a country run by Trump and Musk.
Cyberpunk_2025@reddit
Windows 11 restrictions for sure another boost for Linux. Very interesting discussions here. Though, I'm wondering what some people here do with their PCs?
Currently I'm running Windows 11 and Kubuntu on different SSDs, still Windows being my main system. Why? Because I still have dozens of programs running on Windows I don't want to miss. Linux alternatives grew massively the past 10-15 years, so it's getting better as a Windows replacement, and for sure in several parts Linux is the more performant, stable and secure system. Unfortunately still not able to replace my Windows for more than maybe some 60 to 70%. Gaming is one part, where my favorites still don't run under Linux. Yeah, Steam was running, though with some tinkering needed today cause it's choosing the wrong GPU output... but my favorites missing. Hope they'll be added. Several other programs not running or without an equivalent Version on Linux. Some less important for sure, but some pretty important I won't miss.
So, in the end I'll run a 2 System Config for a longer time, maybe switching for some standards a little more to Linux, if I don't do it via mobile phone anyhow as Reddit.
Btw, another thing I'm wondering, when changing to Linux seems to be seen as a simpler switch...why not installing Windows 11 on some unsupported hardware? I have it running on my old PC as well with unsupported CPU. Using Rufus to create a bootable USB you can disable several blocking requirements. Surely not suitable for all configurations, but many should work. Will me require to manually upgrade again about every 2 years for the major Windows updates, but also not a huge deal. Anyhow, hope that Linux get's another push to get rid of some influence of the main SW companies trying to control more and more the ways we are supposed to use their OS.
Despot4774@reddit
Ai spyware.
seaQueue@reddit
Because switching and playing games is easy and Windows just keeping getting pushier about features that M$ wants and people don't
brickheadbs@reddit
All I know is I put some Mint on a 10 year old ThinkPad 13 and it feels new again, the fan doesn't spin non-stop, it opens 17 docker containers in half a minute or less, is only using about 15% of it's 16GB of ram and rarely uses more than 80% of the processor, and I easily used mergefs to make a JBOD-like drive merge that was soooo easy and has been stable and fairly transparent. And, as a bonus, a lot of what I learn in CLI is usable in terminal on my Mac! I guess I found a few good reasons
For me, AI has been the difference. I make lots of syntax mistakes in CLI, so the AI (Gemini Pro) has been great at letting me ask questions and mostly find answers
I wish someone could take the very few rough edges off of Linux and then I would have no idea why it wouldn't take over everything.
half-t@reddit
The longer use of older computers is one reason. If you have to pay a new one just to keep up with Microsofts politics you start to think about other solutions. And Linux is a very good solution for that problem. Most people use a browser, email and write some letters. Casual gaming is another thing. All that can also be done with Linux. And it's free like free beer. And it's free in the sense of not relying on crappy closed source software doing things I don't want it to do.
Another thing is privacy. Windows phones home a lot and even the office suite is only usable in the cloud. And you can encrypt everything in a way that even three letter agencies will ask you for your secrets instead of even only trying to decrypt your hard drive.
Small_Performance_26@reddit
It will reimagine your imagination of what you can do with technology. Mac / Windows build stable ground of what’s holding you up. But you are inside the system. With linux, you will see the system from the outside.
wallysimmonds@reddit
Steam OS/gaming is much better/Anti consumer practices with Microsoft. I also think that people are wanting to play around with ML stuff which runs well under Linux
zoiderr@reddit
Free software's is getting alit better and since pewdiepie video the community will expand rapidly. Free software works on the voluntary contribution of others so more people means more contribs likely to occur leading to better products
DynoMenace@reddit
Windows 11 is chock full of ads and first party spyware, so a lot of users are already unhappy with that. Windows 10 is reaching EOL, so users are faced with the choice of no longer receiving security updates, switching to Windows 11 if their hardware is compatible, or buying a new PC if it's not.
Given how people generally already have a bad opinion of Windows 11, you can imagine they're not exactly excited to do any of those, especially opening their wallets.
Linux has also become a viable platform for gaming, thanks to Wine and the work Valve has contributed (Proton). Since gaming is one of the major holdouts for a lot of Windows users, this probably makes the transition more appealing to a lot of people.
This is also speaking relatively, of course. We still barely crack 4% of market share, depending on which metrics you're looking at.
AncientLine9262@reddit
They’re not. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide
It’s been at the same market share for a year, I don’t know where people are getting that users are switching over.
citruspickles@reddit
I'll give a smaller percentage answer here and say that Windows has become boring and is seemingly less useful. This is somewhat ironic because I feel like they cram more in it than ever, but it does so much less or makes it more difficult and raises the learning curve to do the same things we did before.
We used to get solitaire, ski free, jizzball, minesweeper. We used to get Ms paint which did everything we needed. You used to only need the commander prompt whereas now everything is pushing towards powershell.
The start menu button used to actually be called the start menu button, now it's got its own operating system running inside of it and has been moved to an uncomfortable spot for those of us used to Windows for 30 plus years.
Using a download store is cumbersome on the Windows level and takes away a lot of freedom or has caused developers to stop giving out executables in favor of sending you to the Windows store.
For some of us, our toasters after dark license has expired and there's no reason to stick around.
I guess what I'm getting at, is that Windows has tried to change so much and made things less friendly and more involved to use. Todd, it's really no more work, but has a bigger payoff, to just learn another operating system all together.
For me, I have already been tinkering with Linux for quite a while doing self-posted projects and just wanting to learn new skills over the last several years.
I don't want to discount how much progress Linux has made in the compatibility and UI areas of user friendliness, but the average person wouldn't be able to transition to Linux just because. They need a reason to switch and this is why.
No offense to anyone, but last few generations aren't technologically apt and have mostly no desire to be so. This has caused things to dumb down even faster or become overly crammed with junk. This seems somewhat like a chicken egg deal. I grew up using the keyboard more than the mouse and typing in dos more than clicking the start menu. So maybe it's just me, but I feel like using the CLI is so much more simpler than even navigating a modern-day graphical interface whereas windows 95/98 and Windows XP was the peak GUI for me.
Also, Linux makes me feel like I'm back in a BBS.
Dark_ShadowMD@reddit
For me was about extending the life of my older Aspire E5-553 laptop. Windows 10 is going EOL, Windows 11 doesn't work on it (VGA drivers just don't work on it)...
Kubuntu was my solution.
My main workload is offloaded on my desktop running 11... it's newly built, and I have a smaller HP with 11 too for portability, but one never knows when Kubuntu will come into play to save my ass, and when that happens, I'll be prepared.
Also, man, that laptop revived with Kubuntu. Boots in seconds using a SATA SSD and feels like new. Linux is lightweight compared to the bloatware Windows brings nowadays.
Ok_Use424@reddit
i would say this is because of windows shenanigans and the pewdiepie video
Toddler-Squashed@reddit
Question how does one update like graphics drivers an other stuff? I really wanna use Linux on my un-upgradable to windows 11 pc but worried about drivers
SEI_JAKU@reddit
The neat thing about Linux is that you usually don't need to install or update drivers seperately like you do on Windows. Usually, they come preinstalled, and you can simply update them alongside everything else.
You should generally avoid the official Linux drivers for your GPU (the kind you get off the GPU manufacturer's website). Those are primarily for testing and for developing the preinstalled drivers from, and should be an absolute last resort in case the preinstalled drivers do not work.
oskich@reddit
Toddler-Squashed@reddit
I have no idea what that means but I’m assuming it’s code for installing the drivers XD guess I’ll have to just search for it online
oskich@reddit
Yep, you just copy those lines into the terminal and hit enter and it will install/update them.
Some beginner distros does it for you. I recently installed Linux Mint on my gaming rig that doesn't support Windows 11, and it runs my Steam games faster than on Windows 10.
Toddler-Squashed@reddit
I think I saw something about Linux mint for starters I may look into it more lol
oskich@reddit
Even my retired parents have been running Linux Mint on their computer for the last 5 years, it's a great beginner distro.
Toddler-Squashed@reddit
Ty for the info 🤝
Poverty_welder@reddit
Windows 10 is losing support in October unless you pay a fee for security updates.
Linux is "free"
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Linux is free by virtually any definition, no scarequotes.
DellOptiplexGX240@reddit
because of memes telling them that a server OS is better as a desktop OS for the everyday user.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Linux is a "desktop OS for the everyday user".
Holzkohlen@reddit
Come on Valve, release Steam OS for general desktops now. It would be so funny.
As I understand it, a lot of people are waiting for that before giving Linux a shot.
tobiasvl@reddit
Source?
225grams@reddit
How do you know « so many are switching to Linux lately »? Where did you find that information and what are the numbers ?
mrtruthiness@reddit
Why do you think there are "so many switching" to Linux? I don't see any hard data indicating that assertion. If you are basing your view on your seeing more articles ... I would imagine that this is because "the advertising algorithm" has discovered you want to see such stories.
bethechaoticgood21@reddit
MS just released that they will be charging for security updates. So, there's that.
jberk79@reddit
They're not. They're just being part of the crowd.
HarmlessSaucer@reddit
“I don’t know what the whole >>fuzz<< is about” Is that just a simple typo or a full blow. r/eggcorn
TweegsCannonShop@reddit
TLDR: My Fedora/KDE setup has most of the things I used to like about windows and very few of the things I hate about Microsoft, plus more. It's been a long time since it felt this good to use my workstation.
Here's why I moved.
Back when I started using Windows (in the olden days) it was pretty great depending on your version and setup. It was a good, solid platform for running the tools I needed to work and play. (Web/LAMP developer, network engineer, games, finance, communication, etc.). I used WIndows for upwards of 20 years. Occasionally MS would blunder but you could skip that version or otherwise mitigate. I was a developer and power user and I could get shit done. It felt good.
However, over time a few things really made it feel less good.
For various reasons MS had to keep it as a moving target. The pressure to constantly create and sell new versions led to "fixing" things that weren't broken (out with the good, in with the meh). Economic pressures led them to compete with their software ecosystem (and IT professionals) rather than just supporting them. Advances in networking, saas, etc. allowed them more visibility, more control, more monetization, more subscription income, more lock-in, more bloatware, more bullshit.
At some point they went from offering a platform to benefit me (within the confines of their business needs, of course) to a platform that would largely benefit them at my expense. It was no longer my computer - it was theirs. I became the product as much as the customer. My last version was Windows 7 and I honestly just couldn't stomach anything after that.
Eventually I tried MAC and hated it (it didn't "just work" and was buggy, was severely limiting, and doing business with Apple was awful).
After that I tried linux. I bounced around a few versions and ended with Fedora (the KDE version) which is the best flavor for me by far. I found other linux flavors to be a bit clunky but Fedora has been smooth and easy, and is the first time I really feel like a flavor of Linux is ready for prime-time as a daily driver.
I'm not a linux master, I prefer GUIs and just want to be a user at this point. WINE works perfectly right out of the box for the few programs I couldn't leave behind--after a tweak or two, they integrate so smoothly into KDE that I forget they're windows programs at all. There's no bloatware, no telemetry (except some version info that I send in voluntarily), and it just feels good. It's been a long time since my workstation just felt this good.
firewirexxx@reddit
Because pew dee pie switched.
redballooon@reddit
Why do you think so many switched to Linux lately? I have noticed nothing of the sort.
79215185-1feb-44c6@reddit
He watched a PewDiePie video and then saw every other content creator parrot the video as if any of them actually daily drive Linux or have any real experience in Linux.
Even channels with 10k subs hire people to write scripts and do research for them.
jr735@reddit
I've already started telling people who wish to replicate what Pewdiepie did to go to his videos and ask him in his comments section, rather than ask us.
Ok-Minimum-453@reddit
This comment should be pinned, this might be the thing happening right now.
Chuchi787@reddit
Pewdiepie is a big factor lol
TweegsCannonShop@reddit
TLDR: My Fedora/KDE setup has most of the things I used to like about windows and very few of the things I hate about Microsoft, plus more.
Here's why I moved.
Back when I started using Windows (in the olden days) it was pretty great depending on your version and setup. It was a good, solid platform for running the tools I needed to work and play. (Web/LAMP developer, network engineer, games, finance, communication, etc.). Occasionally MS would blunder but you could skip that version or otherwise mitigate. It felt good. I was a developer and power user and I could get shit done.
However, over time a few things really screwed it up.
For various reasons MS had to keep it as a moving target. The pressure to constantly create and sell new versions led to "fixing" things that weren't broken (out with the good, in with the meh). Economic pressures led them to compete with their software ecosystem (and IT professionals) rather than just supporting them. Advances in networking, saas, etc. allowed them more visibility, more control, more monetization, more subscription income, more lock-in, more bloatware, more bullshit.
At some point they went from offering a platform to benefit me (within the confines of their business needs, of course) to a platform that would largely benefit them at my expense. It was no longer my computer - it was theirs. I became the product as much as the customer.
My last version was Windows 7. I honestly just couldn't stomach the newer versions. Eventually I tried MAC and hated it (it didn't "just work" and was buggy, was severely limiting, and doing business with Apple was awful). After that I tried linux. I bounced around a few versions and ended with Fedora (the KDE version) which is the best flavor for me.
I found other linux flavors to be a bit clunky but Fedora has been smooth and easy. (I'm not a linux master, prefer GUIs, just want to be a user at this point) and WINE works perfectly right out of the box for the few programs I couldn't leave behind. After a tweak or two, they integrate so smoothly into KDE that I forget they're windows programs at all. There's no bloatware, no telemetry (except some version info that I send in voluntarily), and it just feels good.
Sindweller@reddit
Everyone has their own reasons, but I switched completely to linux a couple of weeks ago for the reason that I want to get away from bigtech companies and minimize the use of anything American, software included
mrbigcee@reddit
Windows Recall and telemetry
One_Middle6610@reddit
Use what you prefer (:
HipHedonist@reddit
A couple of reasons:
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IntroductionNo3835@reddit
Today most people are on the Internet, using Chrome or Firefox, and usage on Windows and Linux is the same.
Browsing the files is the same.
Opening a document and editing is almost the same.
Developing software is more practical on Linux.
Several countries are gradually freeing themselves from dependencies and technological constraints, so Linux and free software are a stronger trend than ever.
Several companies are slowly migrating.
I teach. 20 years ago I taught a free software course. Students used and at the end of the course made reports comparing Windows and Windows software with Linux. Most reports indicated that they were practically the same. They did everything without any problems. What changed was a name or position in the menu. But the usability was almost the same.
Tall-Strike-6226@reddit
Freedom
krokotak47@reddit
My opinion - Linux also sucks for normal users, but Windows sucks much more. As a power user I'm fine with both, but Linux is much much better for me - philosophy and control wise.
m4nf47@reddit
Security should be better than Windows 10 after it goes end of life in a few months time. Most older Windows 10 machines will run a desktop Linux distribution just fine. I've got a few family members who still run ancient PCs and laptops that will be getting confiscated and reinstalled unless they agree on replacing them completely. I'm refusing to be family IT support for anything officially unsupported.
Big_Calligrapher8690@reddit
Why switch? U can use all of them. Mac for graphic, sound, video, creative. Windows for 3d/unreal/unity/engineering Linux for ai/servers/network
Tjccs@reddit
I would say depends a lot on your use case, for people that mostly use their PC for gaming I wouldn't recommend it.
I'm sure there's people out there that need certain tools for their jobs that have no support in Linux and have to use windows.
On the other end I as a software dev I rather use Linux.
So at the end of the day, is it better than Windows? Well, depends on your use case.
Entire-Hornet2574@reddit
As aways away better, but I don't notice any similar activities.
DependentMammothh@reddit
Bcz pewds just dropped a vid
Gualidan-Robot-@reddit
And since gaming on Linux became reality there’s no reason to stay on Windows
Gualidan-Robot-@reddit
Linux is simply better
WearyReflection8733@reddit
Im unable to upgrade to 11, and the steamdeck desktop mode made me realise linux is not only a terminal 😆
HongPong@reddit
windows gets annoying and often worse. linux is notoriously pesky about stuff like device drivers, (eg GPU cards) but overall never really tries to stick you with more nonsense
AnomalyNexus@reddit
I just switched
...that said I'm not new to linux...just the desktop part
DunkelZauberer@reddit
We should be thankful to Windows 11 for being shit
kingo409@reddit
Keep Linux a secret.
Defiant-Bug-496@reddit
pewdiepie :3
FluffyMegazord@reddit
Pewdiepie
masutilquelah@reddit
Gaming improved
Windows sucks more than ever
Adobe hatred reached a tipping point
Critical_Pin@reddit
Is it finally here? The year of the Linux Desktop ..
monkeynator@reddit
Main reason: Microsoft being morons.
The unheard reason(s): A lot of the backbone of Linux is slowly emerging better and more coordinated than before, such as wayland, BTRFS and flatpak has helped a lot.
On top of this gaming isn't as much of a russian roulette if it'll work or not as it used to be.
ephemeral_resource@reddit
Windows has become a bit more hostile to users. Linux continues to get more user friendly, stable, and application support. Whether you're gaming or using other productivity software though there's still some holdouts for sure and that can be a deal-breaker for some.
Windows used to just work but I left around windows 8 because I couldn't take the ads for games I'd never play. I felt like it had absolutely no right in an OS I paid for to get work done.
Original_Garbage8557@reddit
We have no reason to use Windows anymore.
That’s why.
YouRock96@reddit
You're just someone who doesn't use software that's compiled only for Windows, obviously
Kekosaurus3@reddit
Something something famous youtuber made a video about it. Dont worry 90% of it will just go back to windows.
Destruckhu@reddit
Windows 10/11 has reached its breaking point
PercussionGuy33@reddit
Does 2017 count as lately? /s ;) I've noticed a major uptick in posts on Mint's subreddit about "How do I setup this or What do you think my hardware will run?" which I guess I can say has never really stopped since I first started to view that sub. That's one of the subreddit's points is to be supportive but "What do you think of my desktop guys" gets annoying..
tweb2@reddit
Not sure if this answer has come up before, but there are a lot of people keen to not be dependant on anything that sits under the banner of corporate America' right now, following one or two political changes lately.
I have seen in response plenty on reddit and else where advertising alternatives to everything online to non US based endeavours. Linux adoption, may be, is seeing a surge because of this also. But I can only speculate.
EternallyAries@reddit
Interesting theory, but I don't think many people switch due to something being under America. I think it's mostly due to the amount of stupid ideas Microsoft has been throwing at their operating system.
Definitely not a political sort of thing, but honestly anything possible at this point.
I think it's from a bunch of youtube videos showcasing all the good that comes from a free and open source operating system.
tweb2@reddit
Happy to agree regarding the amount of stupid ideas cause could coming from MS, a big part is how they combine into quite an intrusive experience.
In Europe there is quite a lot of will to move from some of the big corporate controlled services, but in so many cases people find this challenging because of how dependant we have become and there is a degree of 'comfort' with the familiar which is hard to break. The extra little motivation currently I think has helped. Just my opinion.
Butzphi@reddit
Trump
CancerSpidey@reddit
Besides all the other reasons. People are trying to boycott Microsoft now because of support for Palestine.
kaeptnkrunch_1337@reddit
Linux is free, don't collect any data and don't come with AI Shit....
linuxpriest@reddit
You'll find out this fall.
Firethorned_drake93@reddit
I would assume Recall is one of the main reasons. As well as Windows 10 eol.
FedeDost@reddit
Because it doesn’t force you to make an account for accessing to your OS.
airbusman5514@reddit
I'ts better than Windows by far. Windows 10 EOL coming up, plus Windows 11's constant push for integration into Microsoft's systems, means I'm less and less likely to use it. Both my PCs are designed for Win11, but I find Fedora works just as well on them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Dpacom02@reddit
Microsoft, Amiga Inc(CBM), Google, and Apple companies went from good to trash. So people want an alternate OS
Cephell@reddit
Escaping AI
Familiar_Ad_8919@reddit
i unironically dont know what ai microsoft forces on u
theres edge.. u can just not use edge, or uninstall it, what else is there?
Cephell@reddit
It's reasonable to assume that the recall feature will not be optional in the future
chasingTheSun1128@reddit
I got really pissed when made fresh W11 installation on my laptop and found out that after 2 reboots there were apps getting installed that I didn't. Also I got update that spinned for about 1,5 h, so I was unable to use my laptop. I've got a steam deck, so I only need laptop for vscode for my work. Happy with Zorin OS.
Original_Estimate987@reddit
Many people disappointed with the changing requirements of W11
modern11YT@reddit
You can run newer versions of linux on any device and with microsoft deprecating windows 10 in favor of windows 11, switching to linux is the best option if you want to preserve a computer that's 6+ years old , plus linux has most apps you'll need and if you want to run a windows-only app, you can use wine or proton (for games) plus the customization is infinite and it doesn't eat much ram or resources
null_reference_user@reddit
I was a Windows user but have always been very technical and familiar with Linux. I stayed in Windows though because it was simply easier, it had all the tools I needed and I could even use WSL where needed.
I changed to Fedora because the vast majority of the tools I need are available on Linux, and those that were linux-only or linux-preferred (like Docker) run much better than in WSL.
And while Linux has been enticing me in, Windows has been pushing me out. I log in and get notification ads about bing AI or other shitty MS products I don't want. I once got a full screen ad about a new call of duty game interrupting my workflow. I open any network analyzer and there's an absolute shitton of unrecognizable traffic coming out of my machine.
Fedora has never disrespected me like this, and I doubt it will. Dear Microsoft, treat your users better and maybe then they'll come back.
ejgl001@reddit
Are they?
I think the meme of the bell curve with left side is like "doesnt matter which os you use" and right side "doesnt matter which os you use" and middle being like "you should use Linux" lowkey applies to me
Good for people to switch to linux but im like let people use whatever works for them
Arinde@reddit
I'm curious to know what you're using to determine that more people than usual are switching to Linux lately. People hated Windows 10 and still used it so I doubt Windows 11 being terrible for many of the same reasons is really making that big of a difference.
boutell@reddit
If you're just getting things done in a web browser, there's no reason to put up with Microsoft forcing you to upgrade your hardware. Pretty much the same argument as a Chromebook but you get a much more capable machine. And as others have pointed out all the Linux compatibility work done for the steam deck benefits any Linux machine.
GarThor_TMK@reddit
The windows 11 hardware requirements are (perceived at least) to be ridiculous and arbitrary.
Windows 10 going EOL, deprecating those computers that otherwise still function great is pushing a lot of people to consider alternatives.
And then there's the windows update issue from a few months ago that caused computers to black screen randomly, causing people to lose work.
LeBigMartinH@reddit
Microsoft/Windows Recall's bullshit, microsoft copilot being forced in, windows 10 EOL, as well as pewdiepie promoting linux recently.
Dwedit@reddit
I can't switch to Linux because I use Visual Studio every day, and MonoDevlop is not viable in its current unmaintained state. VSCode is not a viable replacement either.
Derezzed_v@reddit
Because Windows 11 is shit. SteamOS for gamers.
UpsideDownTire@reddit
I'm switching to Linux from Windows.
LovesGettingRandomPm@reddit
I had issues with normal hdds not being fast enough since windows 7 disk use was constantly at 100%, thats when I found linux mint with cinnamon and its an amazing combo for when you just want that windows feel but non of the bullshit, it asks you which updates and when, it doesn't take up much resources, you don't run into what I call consumer rape where microsoft forces things on you like when you click no on updates but after a while it just updates without your consent, forcing ads, requiring you to login with a microsoft account so you have to have internet during setup, it installs legal spyware making it run like shit, its made for portable devices since windows 8, so they force the appstore on you, there are ads in outlook now that look like emails, and thats not even the worst they did, I'm sure many of you all have one of these consumer rape stories
tmnils@reddit
maokaby@reddit
Perhaps they're just bored and want to try something new. Some of they will stay, others will return to windows soon. That's fine, I guess.
I see many newcomers believe linux can do everything windows does, but better... Not sure who told them that, and every time it caused quite a lot of drama when people realize they cannot run their beloved winword and photoshop. Eventually, they adapt or leave.
Others come from raspberry pi (and other SBCs) background, and they come prepared. They know what they want, and what they could get. They are able to read guides before asking questions. My respect!
CGA1@reddit
I switched five years ago but, many switching? Source?
paulshriner@reddit
Because it is just better. It doesn't force anything on you like Copilot, no telemetry, and is genuinely faster.
Okanson@reddit
Because Windows is trash and Macs are overpriced
ZunoJ@reddit
Yes, it is just better than windows
Harha@reddit
Are they? That's great news!
groenheit@reddit
It is better from a technical perspective, no doubt. But the user experience is not necessarily better. For me it absolutely is, but there are people who can not play online multiplayer games that use certain anti cheat systems or adobe software. Although I personally think these two "problems" are actually features, other people might think differently. So, as always, it depends.
montgomery2016@reddit
I'm planning on it because Windows 10 is no longer being supported as of Oct 2025, Mac can suck a dick, and I hate the integrated cloud backups and AI.
joaquin_rs@reddit
because you can play almosy anything in linux, this is why I deleted my dual boot
btw I use arch
helthrax@reddit
Because winblows.
jqVgawJG@reddit
Trump
Chris714n_8@reddit
Maybe gaming now easier possible (even for mainstream-games) with Proton (SteamOS pushed)?
Legitimate-Ask-9792@reddit
Many reasons. For me it was missing alarm clocks and job because of Windows Update. Windows updating when i lay in bed and heating my PC, Windows updating BIOS and slowing down PC, Windows rebooting my Wifi cause i limited internet so it doesnt update, Windows updating photos app and adding AI without me updating windows. Windows 11 removing small taskbar and then banning app that helps you get it back StartAllBack. So much pushing to use store and Microsoft account. No longer being able to rmove Edge cause Windows 11 uses Webview2 heavily even for taskbar and startmenu
Acrobatic-Aerie-4468@reddit
Linux installation process and setting up the entire workflow can be done using a single script. Hands free install.
Thats just the tip of the iceberg of what linux can do. From aliases to full fledged 3d rendering can be done in Linux on much lesser hardware and with better control.
rockerode@reddit
Also gaming support has finally become stable
SecondPersonShooter@reddit
Windows has been going downhill thanks to introducing ads inside their OS, updates causing poor performance leading to forced obsolesence.
Using Linux has become simpler. Many Linux versions have in build app stores that can make managing your software easy even for a novice. Things like the Steam Deck have shown Linux gaming is possible.
getridofwires@reddit
Just my perception but a lot of Linux installs seem generally faster to do the same thing as Windows. Maybe it takes better advantage of the hardware? Also it's free and most if not all the software is free, and open source.
One-Big-Giraffe@reddit
Fcking windows has ads in the start menu! It's not free, wtf?!
Sinaaaa@reddit
Obviously what everyone else is saying is true, win10 EOL, win11 is not running on some very powerful, but a bit aged hardware.
I think what is just as big of a contributor is that W11 is really really bad & W12 is not going to be better, anyone who thinks MS can get out of enshittification for W12 is delusional. For example the latest is their fuckery with microsoft accounts. We bought a new office PC to run W11 for my mom recently. It has a legit windows license and everything. Came with W11 preinstalled & it keeps nagging my mom to add a Microsoft account. It's no longer just an extra annoyance during install, if you don't add one the OS will nag nag nag...
janicejolpin@reddit
its the year of the linux desktop.
_Rajveer_Singh_@reddit
PewDiePie has definitely sparked interest.
I finally switched permanently quite recently on my Zephyrus g16 when Microsoft rolled out its AI features in the latest update.
Ok-Wheel6348@reddit
freedom, modularity, simplicity, and transparency is what makes unix like / unix systems amazing its not a complicated answer i had no prior attachment to windows i use unix because of these things and they are why i believe its the best most efficient way to run an os
dsn0wman@reddit
For decades technical people have switched for technical reasons and philosophers have switched for philosophical reasons. The fact that normal everyday tasks have moved to the browser means you don't have to be in either of those groups to enjoy Linux. So Linux is slowly but surely piling on win after win just by not being a massive pain in the ass to use.
MugetsuDax@reddit
Used windows all my life since ME and it was fine until Windows 11 launched. I hate it's "always connected, always online" design, I don't care about Copilot or Recall, I don't like the new design and the lack of proper customization tools.
OneDrive is a pain to uninstall and overall it feels like it works against the user, similar to what MacOS does but for some reason more annoying.
I tried Linux in the past but work and school were the main reasons why I couldn't fully switch. Now I'm a happy Arch user (btw)
nomasteryoda@reddit
Yup. People don't want to shell out big bucks to run win11 when Arch is just fine.
WellCruzSta@reddit
I wouldn't say migrating but rather testing. Reason: Windows 11 requirements, excessive AI telemetry
Sk8sn0w@reddit
I run linux on servers. Mainly because its much more efficient compared to Windows.
captain_GalaxyDE@reddit
Some people from r/BuyFromEU others from PewDiePie.
JjigaeBudae@reddit
Surprised I had to scroll this far down to find BuyFromEU mentioned. A lot of Europeans trying to distance themselves from giant american tech companies right now
Strong_Mulberry789@reddit
Because windows 11 is being forced down our throats and Microsoft won't support Windows 10 going forward, so if your PC does not support windows 11 it forces people to upgrade perfectly good hardware.
Best decision I ever made, I'm sticking with my functional, low spec PC running mint XFCE.
-Parptarf-@reddit
Win10 is EOL. People are fed up with Microsoft. PewDiePie made a video about it. Steam Deck is getting traction.
Personally switched because I’m sick and tired of Microsoft and big tech. Degoogled myself almost completely these past months and next step is less reliance on Microsoft and Apple. I’m still not completely sold on Linux due to the lacking software support. But I really like using it otherwise.
ebb_omega@reddit
From what I've seen, it's because of Microsoft's insistence to make their OS a lot more web-based, and adding a bunch of hoops to jump through just to get the functionality you're used to from a computer.
Kinda like how Microsoft's insistence at forcing use of a broken web browser led to the rise of Firefox.
N0mn@reddit
Have you ever tried using Windows?
Waldo305@reddit
For me it was because of EOL for Win. 10.
I have a great computer and I'm not going to switch when tarrifs are like 300% or w.e they are now.
I'm going Linux and I'll open up oracle box to use WeMod for my games whenever I feel like it.
Other that I can just play my steam games on Linux and I think even ff14 also. My job gave me a laptop to work with with windows 11 and I can use that for work when needed.
I've been unable to upgrade to windows 11 due to tpm 2.0 chip and I'm not going to go down that path just so my computer can crap out later.
Unknown-U@reddit
Because it just works. A few years ago any NVIDIA driver made the Linux experience impossible for most users. Right now it’s mostly just clicking a checkbox.
More publicly, steamdeck etc
moloko4000@reddit
There are many technical reasons, but simply it was to be in charge of my computer again. I felt like on Windows I was renting, now I feel like I'm owning.
celeb0rn@reddit
What data says people are switching to linux over windows?
xoagray@reddit
A lot of people don't like Windows 11, be that for reasons of Windows 10 having features they like that 11 doesn't, or because of Microsoft's ever increasing ads and more intrusive data harvesting. A lot of people are really not at all into the Recall feature that Microsoft keeps trying to serve up like the same spoiled milk over and over with a little something different mixed in hoping people will get used to the taste. And then there's the "AI" being forced into every nook and cranny of the OS that is also wildly unpopular.
Linux is an escape from all of that. It lets you use the full power of your computer for what you want to do instead of what Microsoft wants your computer to do. It doesn't have ads, it doesn't have spyware, it doesn't have (at least not yet thank god) "AI" baked into every part of it, and when it does eventually rear it's ugly head it'll be removable, because that's how Linux works.
And, gaming on it has gotten worlds better than it used to be. For the most part everything but the few games that require kernel level anti-cheat just work out of the box, or at worst can be gotten to work with a small tweak here or there, (usually just picking the right version of Proton or something of that nature).
And, Linux is free. You can donate to help the developers make it if you find a distro you like, but it's free to download and use. So you're out nothing for trying it.
In all fairness, is it all sunshine and rainbows? No. There are still some things like hardware that is specifically made to run only with Windows that are going to be pain points or may not work at all. But these are pretty few and far between now. And in general the Linux community is pretty good about helping new folks coming to Linux to get going. So even if you have issues there's a good chance they can get hammered out.
If you do decide to test the water on the Linux side of the tracks, best of luck. I switched my last Windows PC over to Linux about 5 or 6 years ago and after a little adjustment period I've genuinely been happier.
If you stay on Windows, I highly suggest looking up Christopher Titus Tech on YouTube and checking out his Windows tool for removing all the stuff from Windows that generally causes people not to want to use it. he talks about it often, so it shouldn't be hard to find a link. Either way, good luck.
JustHappyToBeHere200@reddit
Windows blows
-DrZombie-@reddit
Privacy.
the_mello_man@reddit
Haven’t switched yet but I’m going to before windows 10 is EOL
mcAlt009@reddit
We still have a long way to go.
I suspect when companies start offloading EOL windows 10 computers we're really going to see things take off.
Yes you can get special extra deluxe LTS Win10, but that's not what most companies do.
We're going to see a flood of perfectly capable computers that can still run Linux for the foreseeable future. These computers are going to be almost free ( or something like 100 bucks, for something still capable of building fantastic software).
throwaway234f32423df@reddit
no matter the year, the answer is always "Microsoft did something fucky again"
token_curmudgeon@reddit
Microsoft enshittification was unbearable in 2000. As best I can tell, it has picked up the pace.
ethertype@reddit
Because PC hardware lasts longer and cost more than it used to. Because Windows is less compelling than it used to be. Because Microsoft overreaches and requires you to be online and accept being spied upon.
And last but not least: Linux is way better than good enough for the majority of casual PC users.
honeydaydreams_@reddit
I switched because of Windows 11. It's insanity what they're doing and the push for AI in everything is just too much for me.
I only have it on my laptop to use Adobe apps as needed and anything else I can't get working on linux.
Hoping and praying I can completely switch in the future.
KernunQc7@reddit
Microsoft: You WILL enjoy ads, You WILL like Recall, You WILL not complain about bugs due to AI testing.
Got it?
GI-Shmoe@reddit
I started distrohopping somewhere in the early 2000’s. Not sure which windows it was but I had it at that point.
Went back to windows around vista or 7. W8 was awesome imo.
Now W11 is… it’s horrendous. Most of the time you’re either trying to get the thing to act like a normal OS. Trying to kill all the unnecessary widgets and whatsits. And no, for the bazillionteenth time, I’m not gonna buy another cloud/word/…subscription.
It’s nothing short of a miracle if you actually get any work done on W11.
Linux on the other hand, is a breath of fresh air in that regard.
Installing mint on an old i5 thinkpad: a breeze, 20 minutes up and running.
Now I’m trying to finish all my windows machine work so I can migrate all my stuff for good.
Live-Run1188@reddit
Switched from Windows to Fedora. Never had a reason to go back.
erparucca@reddit
beacause more and more people are getting aware it exists : 20 years ago it was known only to some curious geeks studying computer science at uni. The scenario keeps evolving since then ;)
DeKwaak@reddit
*30 years by now. 20 years ago we already were at full war with Microsoft.
erparucca@reddit
no please, don't tell me it's already been 30y since slackware was still distributed on floppies as not everyone could afford a cdrom... :O
jabin8623@reddit
More customization and better development environment.
Mithrandir2k16@reddit
Everything is in a browser anyway. Why not use a free system that's more secure and runs on older hardware? Windows XP used to run on a single gig of RAM. Modern Linux uses half that.
Krokfors@reddit
My guess is political statements.
RandomTyp@reddit
windows getting too much of a pain in the ass even for more reluctant users
PewDiePie (biggest human-run YouTube channel as far as I know) made a Linux video
Present_Spinach_2380@reddit
It seems Europe is promoting Linux OS to counter American technological dominance, particularly from Microsoft, as it avoids costly licensing fees and cannot be tariffed. More influencers may follow the example of Swedish YouTuber PewDiePie to influence the younger generation.
MaybeTheDoctor@reddit
It illuminate all the flaws of windows 11 and adds some new inconveniences
Reclaimer2401@reddit
I think it's a confluence of a few events.
1) Chromebooks have onboarded a lot of users into linux environments.
2) Linux has gotten much more user friendly over the years, and support for linux is better than ever.
3) Enshittfication of Windows, harvesting user data and pushing users to both AI and subscriptions to services that have open source free alternatives
I finally installed ubuntu and have used it as my primary OS a couple years ago. I don't see why I would ever go back.
J4YD13N@reddit
The world is waking up to the fact that windows is spyware, malware, and bloatware, and not many people want to come out of pocket to buy a new machine to support the Microsoft business model when their current machine works great, at a time when the near term financial outlook is dim, at best.
TL;dr: fck Microsoft
doesnt_use_reddit@reddit
Gnome at least is so much better than Mac OS, it's just a matter of time before people start to recognize it. (I hope)
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
Not the new gnome with that terrible desktop minimizing action to select apps.
doesnt_use_reddit@reddit
You like macos minimizing better? Where there's no expose to see the minimized windows, and the full screen windows are in a totally different place?
DeKwaak@reddit
Lately for me is like 30 years ago. There were other viable operating systems, but none of them were from Microsoft
blowfish1717@reddit
Who says people are switching? Played Linux a few times, can't think of it more than a nerdish playtoy. Sometimes, if I get bored and feel like spending half a day googling how to troubleshoot installing the smallest shit which usually takes seconds on windows, I go for it.
redbluemmoomin@reddit
an app store is too hard🙄
That sounds like a your expectations problem. The key is not to expect it to work exactly like Windows.
Careless-Cap-449@reddit
Finally ran out of patience with Windows. I don't want my OS to constantly advertise at me, or bundle unwanted AI shit, or report usage or other data back to HQ, etc.
npaladin2000@reddit
Microsoft is doing their best to promote Desktop Linux by pushing Windows Recall down people's throats.
Keely369@reddit
It would take you maybe an hour or less to figure out creating a USB and running a live session (no installation) of, say, KDE Neon (my personal recommendation.)
So why not try it?
For me it's freedom from licences, freedom from long updates and the system nagging me to update when I'm not ready. Freedom from crap I don't want installing itself. Freedom from OS inbuilt advertising. Freedom from running antimalware software. Freedom to configure it how I want it to look, not how a company tells me. Freedom from preferred apps being pushed on me. Freedom from paying for it (although I donate to Linux related projects but that's a choice.) Freedom from corporate lock-in.
EugeneUgino@reddit
Windows is like a corporate expo. GNU/Linux is like a well-organized fan convention.
It's the difference between being sold a product and being served by a community.
basedfigure@reddit
Customizability and freedom
Money_Star2489@reddit
My workstation is my castle and not subject to corporate AI training.
lKrauzer@reddit
Microsoft Windows operating system
doxx-o-matic@reddit
Once you switch and actually use Linux like it's the only thing out there, a while new world opens up. Linux is what Window should have been, Microsoft is going to learn that the hard way ... just like they did with the mobile market.
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
lol, let’s come back to reality, shall we?
mikeymop@reddit
Its simply a better user experience than Windows.
And by better I mean 10x better. Especially for gaming and casual browsing.
Pleasant-Shallot-707@reddit
Because they’re freaking out over the tech media hyping of people freaking out over the end of support for windows 10. As with all other periods of EOL for windows, most of those people will switch back as soon as they hit something they don’t like/can’t overcome.
megamoscha666@reddit
I used Win11 and was more or less "happy" with it.
Used it mostly for gaming and some programming.
Then about three weeks ago I saw the copilot Button in notepad. That was the main reason why I switched. I don't want this bullshit in a basic utility. I know that I could disable it but this was the final straw for me.
So far I am very happy with Linux. I already had it installed about 18 years ago or so. Every game I like is supported on Linux or runs pretty good with proton.
I don't have any reason anymore to use Windows so that it for me. If a game does not run and will never be running (GTA 6 I guess) will be skipped. I have enough games on my pile of shame.
Deuling@reddit
Windows 10 EOL, a dislike of 11, and a distrust of Microsoft.
It adds a layer of complexity in finding alternatives that work on Linux or figuring out how to make them work with Wine or whatever, but it feels worth it.
Wind-charger@reddit
Personal opinion, but you have more control over the system. Its stability also is superior. I’ve asked myself why do many servers run Linux, I’m sure Google uses Linux servers, I know the hospital by me uses Ubuntu on some computers. My attempt at testing out Linux resulted in a mistake wiping my windows there was no turning back… Been using Linux since, 25 +years.
cicutaverosa@reddit
it is the biggest adventure you can experience, sometimes challenging and always free, much better than all games. Become the master of your software
Solution_Far@reddit
Freedom, Privacy, Security, Customization, all of these things are great and are provided with linux distros
Clean_Experience1394@reddit
Enshitification of things
TheUser_1@reddit
Windows 11
pak9rabid@reddit
You mean trying out Linux & switching back to Windows 3 weeks later?
Tachiyon@reddit
Well, with win11 MS is openly spying and even going as far as removing/hiding deep inside terminal the options to stop them from spying not to mention MS account is a must now So privacy and data security?Non existent
What stopped people previously from switching to Linux was gaming and open source productivity alternatives which weren't that good in the past.
But it also has come a long way
and the cherry on top? Many popular content creator including PewDiePie also switched to linux and shared their experiences with everyone. So people are even more inspired to make the jump.
ComprehensiveBig9440@reddit
Because Microsoft is ending its service for Windows 10 by the end of this summer and many users dont feel like buying a new computer in order to be able to run Windows 11.
legendary_anon@reddit
My brainrot doomscrolling just finished reading a post about m$uck implementing a fee of $1.50 for security hotpatching per patch per core. Right before seeing this one. So yeah...
420turdburgler69@reddit
Windows 11 and geopolitical/economic decisions of the usa
hoolio9393@reddit
Free tv stations online in Linux mint don't remember the tv edition. Until my previous gear died. Rip Linux mint 😂🍗. I would also think writer app can work better natively in a Linux system. The UIs sort of sucks compared to Microsoft. Microsoft are gold standard
andromedakun@reddit
Win10 EOL, Win 11 being horrible and Linux finaly being viable for gaming with Steam and proton. We are at the perfect crossroad as to why people would switch.
Electrical_Mango_489@reddit
Windows 11 and the TPM 2.0 requirement was a catalyst.
Faurek@reddit
I switched years ago, for me at the time was customizability. But with Windows 11 copilot, ai garbage and Microsoft literally admitting they take screenshots of your desktop every whatever time how are people even putting up with this bullshit? No honestly, it's complete spyware, people are supposed to pay to be spied on? No thanks. Windows belongs only in virtual machines with absolutely no personal info. Gaming? No problem, gaming VMs. Also the games that tend to be intrusive don't work on Linux anyway, so it's a path of gaining your power back. Vanguard spyware? Not on Linux. My computer is mine and my information is mine to choose what I do with it.
leofmetal@reddit
I believe that one of the reasons is the popularity that Steam OS has achieved, many people have realized that you can play games on Linux, sometimes even with better performance than on Windows. Before, many didn't migrate because of games.
ZealousidealPoet4293@reddit
I have a perfectly capable 9yo PC and my hardcore gaming days are over. Why should I toss it in the bin to get a sucky Win 11 when I can just dump Mint on it and Lutris my way through the old games I play?
Ultimate_Mugwump@reddit
I think it’s several things, namely that every new windows release is heavier on microsoft’s bullshit, valve pushing hard to break free of microsoft with the steam deck(which runs linux), and linux is getting more and more usable by the average person by the day - still far from simple, but the usability for the non-tech savvy people is leaps and bounds better than it was 10 years ago
HealthyPresence2207@reddit
Win11 just doesn’t work anymore
totmacher12000@reddit
Windows Recall...
EytanMorgentern@reddit
Tired of all the useless AI bullcrap getting forced upon me
mafkees1233@reddit
Because it's not windows...
Moppermonster@reddit
Various reasons:
Windows 10 is reaching end of life and people can' t (due to hardware requirements) or do not want to upgrade to windows 11
People, including governments and companies, outside the USA are looking at what Trump is doing and are wondering if it is wise to completely depend on American software that he could, in theory, order to stop functioning at any moment. So they are looking at non-American alternatives.
PewDiePie uploaded a "I switched, so should you" vid.
scaptal@reddit
I mean, a few reasons, windows has a lot of bloatware, be it AI stuff or just general bloat people dont want, this takes up computer resources which is a problem if youre running lower end hardware, and it is also something which some people are against out of principle (me included).
besides that it seems like windows has enshitified while keeping a heafty price tag (which you are paying for, even if windows is preinstalled, still can be a difference of €100), linux is free, a lot more customizable and just as good as an OS.
the biggest issue linux still faces is that some companies dont have a linux version of their software, though this also seems to be changing, slowly but surely.
And some probably don't like the oligarchy which is coming to fruition in the us, of which microsoft is a large part, and they make this decision so that they can escape from the web of tech billionaires and maybe send a signal with their wallets.
Also, the fun thing with linux is that yiu can run it (and thus try it out) on any old external SSD, so if youre in the fence, just try it, if it feels nice then setup a dual boot, and if you find yourself never using windows anymore then that will save yiu at least 100 euros on your next laptop 😉
unluckyexperiment@reddit
Windows and Macos are too bloated with many unwanted apps and background processes. Also linux is more stable, customizable and privacy oriented by design.
It was only for nerds and tech savy, but it's very easy to use by average people atm. I've installed ubuntu on my mother in laws very old laptop almost ten years ago. She's been consuming media, organizing photos, producing documents without reinstalling or system system crashing. And it's not observably slower compared to first day.
Ulven525@reddit
It works. It’s stable and easy too use. And interesting and fun. I’ve also used it to resurrect two old laptops.
heysoundude@reddit
Resurrections may be the key here, with so much needing compute power of all sorts without intrusive paywalls/licensing and monitoring/tracking and “helpful” AI. People just simply need a functional terminal most of the time, don’t confuzzle it with enshittifying feature bloat and complexity and paywalls to play/use spreadsheets ffs.
nearlyFried@reddit
Linux seems to be getting close to the point where it's only as much of a hassle as windows, but with a lot of benefits in privacy, control, freedom.
xxxbGamer@reddit
Yes it is better. U should decide what ur computer does. U should have control over your personal data. Not Microsoft. And Linux is much more secure and doesn't use so much CPU. I advice to use Linux mint cause it looks much like windows and is beginner-friendly and stable.
Yugen42@reddit
Because it's pretty good.
kicorox@reddit
Because FUCK MICROSOFT!
hEllOmyfrIEnd785@reddit
PewDiePies Video and Windows 11
IllZone351@reddit
The same shait was when win7 and specialty win8 ware out.
After some time 95% of noobs give up on learning and go back to a familiar system .
Millennial-_-Falcon@reddit
1) Linux, in general, has gotten much more user friendly in the last few years.
2) it is mostly free, both as in dollars and as in freedom.
3) no one trusts windows/apple with all their ads and ai integration nonsense.
4) steam deck runs on linux so gaming has gotten a lot better.
Furiorka@reddit
Windows with time becomes worse and worse.
Linux with time becomes better and better.
Klutzy-Ganache3876@reddit
Programming was only for developers in the past, while these days, everyone is learning Python and ML.
Simple-Gas-395@reddit
Yes Windows 10 EOL probably has something to do with that. I don't understand why people don't use windows 10 ltsc instead of moving to windows 11 or Linux. Not a windows fanboy just wondering.
halapenyoharry@reddit
i only had windows (mac guy since 1990) for my new 3090 for machine learning. Windows is a dog, I kicked it off my system. I play minecraft and design with comfyui and other machine learning stuff so linux was a nice fit, while I hadn't needed the command line since the 90s, it was easy to use Linux with ai help.
I think use of ai might be the big reason people are switching, overcoming any fear of being stuck with out the command line knowledge to get out. it's easy af with ai.
as ai assists in the speeding up of development for linux I foresee a renaissance of ultra personalized versions of linux being created on the fly based on the current distros. already I'm using ai to highly modify my experience with linux by adding tools to manage my ML services, ComfyUI, etc.
d3m0nk3y@reddit
Windows 10 and 11 wasn't fun on some old laptops. But for me it was a youtube tutorial from an old lady that made me switch to Linux.
New_Manufacturer5975@reddit
You get some windows 11 benefits without having to splash the cash on a product key. For example tabs In the file explorer.
elohiir@reddit
PewDiePie
ScrumptiousDumplingz@reddit
Pewds
rog_nineteen@reddit
Windows 11 really is not a great operating system, but Windows 10 is going EOL this year, so there are people that don't want to upgrade or even can't because of the hardware requirements. There's also the BS with Copilot and privacy in general where people finally draw the line.
I'd also argue that Linux getting positive attention by YouTubers and other influential people, i.e. PewDiePie as a very recent example, has also motivated a lot of people to at least give it a shot.
can_ichange_it_later@reddit
I actually rarely involve myself in real discussions about win11.
But!
Also,
reasons why im definietly moving:
- MS moving into black mirror territory (/enshittification)
- stuffing AI into places - ads, that are definietly gonna become intrusive - telemetry - random other stuff i dont care for / dont want to waste more time on this comment...
mavininmavisi@reddit
It's fun to mess with, that's my main reason. While Windows is fine, you just have a lot more freedom with Linux. You can choose what distro to use, what desktop environment to use etc.
Also it gives you a more open door to get technical with it if you wish to, that way you can actually work stuff out from the only terminal via some commands without having the need of a GUI.
hyperswiss@reddit
I don't know what 'so many' means. You got figures ?
SidFik@reddit
Windows 10 EOL.
Xemptuous@reddit
Pewdie made a video, windows and apple are getting crappier, people are embracing "becoming one" with their tech which means customization and flow, and Linux is becoming better and better especially in ways that previously stopped people (gaming, adobe, msoffice). Now people arent solely reliant on Excel or Photoshop, but can get by with gsheets or libre l, and gimp or other online alternatives.
Prestigious_Boat_386@reddit
A lot of it comes from people wanting to own their computers I think. Were fed up and tired of the disrespect from having a company decide how I use my property.
If you wanna try it out you can install linux on an old pc and then run an update. The feeling of something being right again after being twisted for a long time is great. Im so tired of being gaslit by everyone around me that its normal when a company is setting your settings, doing your updates, installing your programs and in general removing all your control over your own computer.
Now no one break my bootloader but me and thats the way it should have always been.
These_Muscle_8988@reddit
the research numbers of people visiting sites disagree complately with your statement
but hey 2026 is the year of the linux desktop!
CallMeNepNep@reddit
I personally switched when Microsoft announced recall for the first time, I was still on Windows 10 back then. I might have been fine with switching to Windows 11 if it weren't for the whole AI Bullshit Microsoft would have forced on me. Also I always want to customize my stuff, when I saw some stuff on r/unixporn I was sold.
Vert354@reddit
Desktop computers are becoming less ubiquitous. Things like phones and tablets are now most peoples' primary computing device. That plus web means most of the apps people need/want to use on a regular basis are not locked into Windows anymore.
People who DO use a desktop on a regular basis are now free to experiment outside of the Windows ecosystem and are finding value in Linux, things like:
- not having to worry about licenses
- not having ads or much in the way of default bloatware
- being able to 100% customize the experience, not just UI/UX customization, but being able to choose the environment for your machine and use case.
- in a weird reversal of roles native Open Source software is more likely to support linux first with Windows as a secondary build
- Linux package managers are much more mature, and usually built in. "apt install" is pretty likely to properly install for me where on Windows I have to go through a whole download and install dance.
wisearid@reddit
Win 10 EOL and shitty decisions (copilot and ai), gaming is also better than ever thanks to proton.
amnessa@reddit
Probably because of the consumer friendly nature of linux. Generally everything works. If not you can fix it with the help of the parallel distro websites especially Arch. Feeling that there are only necessary applications running in the background gives me a sense of safety.
DankeBrutus@reddit
Yes and no. For some people it will be better and for others it will not.
I think the primary reason that you have some high profile internet people switching to Linux and talking about it is because Microsoft has made some high profile blunders with the rollout of Windows 11.
Additionally, some people are looking at either needing to purchase new hardware for Windows 11, transition to Windows 10 LTSC, or install Linux. Obviously the majority of people are probably only aware of Windows 10 being EOL by October 2025 because Microsoft has pushed upgrade prompts to them. The only people truly switching to Linux on their own accord are the ones who know enough to be aware of Linux existing as a desktop operating system and not that thing they may have heard about once or twice.
mixedd@reddit
Because they favourite streamer/youtuber told the to 😅 /s
emi89ro@reddit
Three main factors I'd say are:
A handful of non techie content creators have switched over and talked positively about the experience, most famously PewDiePie
Windows has gotten more obnoxious with ads, requiring a Microsoft account, and on be default ai features not everyone is chill about. Meanwhile the Linux ecosystem has gotten refined enough that it is usable by gamers and general purpose computer users without needing to learn how to use the terminal and hack around to make things work.
For political reasons. The US is going through a particularly unpleasant phase as an international trade partner and many other countries are trying to limit the amount of trade they do with us. Given that Windows and Mac are made and sold by US companies that has given a nudge for many to try a Linux os instead.
nandru@reddit
my bet is the fear mongering microsoft has been intensifying these past weeks to windows 10 users and the fact that pewdiepie did a vblog explainig why and how he switched
einat162@reddit
A very popular YouTuber did a video why he switched to Linux.
etm1109@reddit
Apple with their killing off old computers through OSX forced obsolescence and Microsoft playing that game with Windows 11 led many to Linux. Once you work with the OS, you find you can get work done. Gaming can be spotty but some get it working under Wine. If you don't care about gaming, you can do just fine with Linux. Only reason I maintain a Mac is for music production. However, if the music software vendors start supporting Linux, my Macs would become doorstops.
Wooden-Ad6265@reddit
I guess in the extreme now, it's PewDiePie. But the forever reason is the fricking microsoft stuff all over the place, where you pay for a software you don't get the code for, and on top of that be spied on without your permission.
RoseBailey@reddit
There's generally a wave when a popular version of Windows hits EOL. This time, this EOL is rendering tons of perfectly good hardware e-waste, and we have both a major Youtuber switching to Linux and Linux handhelds demonstrating that Linux can work great. Then add in people and governments looking for an OS that isn't dependent on US corporations, and you've got a recipe for a wave of migrations to Linux beyond what we've seen in the past.
Who knows how big of a wave we'll see, but here's hoping.
SEI_JAKU@reddit
Linux has been considerably better than modern Windows for a long time. Thing is, Linux generally gets strictly better, while Windows entirely gets strictly worse. We're slowly crossing lines that are causing people to say "I can't do this anymore", myself included.
APIeverything@reddit
Privacy? AI is snooping on everything and working out how to replace us. I'm shocked anyone still uses windows, google or anything meta
carboncanyondesign@reddit
I can only speak for myself, but I've grown wary of Microsoft, Google, Adobe, Autodesk, etc. The Windows 10 EOL was the final straw since my laptop isn't supported anyways.
kansetsupanikku@reddit
They can't setup their operating system, even if that's matter of clicking in a few options on Windows.
Aand somehow they think that GNU/Linux is a good choice in that situation.
Vortelf@reddit
Subjectively, yes. Give it enough time and the only people left using Windows would be the suckers playing games by Riot because of their stupid anti-cheat.
lunarson24@reddit
First off, is this a serious question? Because there's so much unpacking and waiting for what that question says that it's kind of hard to believe that it's a serious question, especially if you're a part of this subreddit.
Look into what linux and the GNU project are and what Windows is first.
But if you want the tldr. It's control and open source ability. Windows is an operating system controlled by Microsoft where software and services are written for Windows and not necessarily completely open, though it's more flexible than a completely closed source ecosystem like with Mac OS, Linux itself is not an OS. It's a kernel and all the distributions are collections of desktop environments, package managers, software, etc. That makes that particular distro look and feel different from each other, but underlyingly they're all based on the Linux kernel. There's more customizability and more freedom with Linux, but that also comes with the downfall of less software support for the applications that most people probably want. That's my quickest explanation of it.
AccordingMushroom758@reddit
Windows 10 end of life, it’s free, it’s less resource intensive than windows, it can be customized any way that you want, it can play around 90 percent of games thanks to valves proton, it doesn’t have certain hardware requirements, it has no telemetry, etc.
neckme123@reddit
Because it comes a point where I rather spend the time learning how operating a Linux system then trying to remove stuff from windows. Just yesterday I spent 2h trying to remove no app to open ms-gamebar link popup when plugging Xbox controller, ofc couldn't do it, and had to mess around with many registry to even attempt this and I probl don't even know if I did something that will come back to haunt me in the future.
As soon as 9070xt performs same as windows on cachyos I'm completely uninstalling it.
Aristotelaras@reddit
Windows 10 End of Support, Steam Deck, Pewdipie, LTT
paulodelgado@reddit
Haven’t you heard? It’s the year of the Linux desktop!
SewBrew@reddit
I’ve been using desktop Linux for 20+ years and reading declarations that, no, really, this is actually the year or the Linux desktop every year. It was going to happen because of windows 98 EOL, then XP EOL, then because OSX was based off on BSD, then because Android was based on Linux.
There’s no mass migration. Most people don’t know what an operating system is and don’t care. I’ll happily eat my words if Linux has 60% marketshare someday buy I’m not holding my breath.
typhon88@reddit
its better at some things, and not better at other things. if you want privacy, customization yes its better. if you want it for gaming and creative tasks, its generally not better
middaymoon@reddit
Pretty much the same for gaming actually
Mlch431@reddit
People just can't part with games like Fortnite, League/Valorant, Apex Legends, and so forth.
It's not definitely not a worse platform to game — the aforementioned companies behind those games just refuse to support Linux with their anti-cheat.
I remember when there was a lot of pushback to invasive anti-cheat, but I guess at some point people stopped caring because of how bad cheating got.
If developers made a proper server-side anti-cheat (with AI/escalated human review in certain cases), and had integrity checking built into their engines properly, we'd like be able to enjoy all games on every platform.
AlterTableUsernames@reddit
It is definitely better for all kind of creative tasks and not only allows creativity to break free, but even encourages it. Your sentiment makes only in a very narrow sight sense and that is when working with Adobe products and having it as a hard requirement.
__Myrin__@reddit
windows 11
windows 10 eol
and a number of youtubers jumping ship
Disfunctional-U@reddit
I'm going to switch on my home laptop. The reason is, I bought a really awesome $900 laptop right before Covid. The most I've ever paid for a laptop. I was all proud of it. Unfortunately, even though it does everything instantly. And it's powerful. And it's awesome. It cannot be upgraded to Windows 11 because it doesn't meet the Windows 11 requirements. There's no point in trading it. Since it can't be upgraded it's not worth anything. I absolutely love this laptop and don't want to get rid of it. So I'm going to switch it over to Linux rather than throwing it away and buying a Windows 11 laptop to try and stretch a few more years out of my laptop.
HGuedea@reddit
I don't like Microsoft and other companies forcing me to monthly or yearly fees.
Also Win11 looks nice but that's it. Customizing the OS is very limited
untamedeuphoria@reddit
Linux gives you control. Windows takes it away. People are sick of the bullshit from microsoft and want their control back. There are a million reasons people will give, some are actually their reasons. But when you boil down the reasoning it generally comes back to control. This is why there are few usecases that windows is a better option for hosting services.
Ecredes@reddit
Aside from the latest pewpewdie video about it. I think it's mostly that people can play games on Linux these days. Steam put in a lot of effort to make sure game run really well on the steam deck. And in many cases games run BETTER on Linux than on windows.
There's also just a ton of open source software available (more than ever before). People don't want to pay for shit.
KidAnon94@reddit
I also want to add that Pewdiepie recently posted a video of his experience with Linux (Arch specifically) and that could have had, at least, a minor impact, if not more than that.
oneiros5321@reddit
Windows EOL and also recently PewDiePie made a video about why he moved to Linux. He has massive reach so it's bound to drive a lot of people towards it.
Linux4noobs and linux_gaming subs are getting busy lately.
stogie-bear@reddit
Linux keeps getting better, windows keeps getting worse. There also seems to be an increase in exposure, with Steam deck and gamers, people who want to drop win10 before it’s discontinued but don’t want win11, and people from a lot of countries who want an os that’s not from an American company because of everything. So there's something going on but I don’t know how much of it is people switching and how much is chatter.
AndyGait@reddit
I've used Linux since 2009, but I'm also the IT guy for the family. I can't believe the hoops you have to jump through using Windows. the pop ups, the reminders, the nagging, the updates, the questioning everything you want to do...
If an OS can be a place, then Windows is Oxford St on Christmas Eve. In comparison, Linux is a country pub beer garden. It's calm and peaceful and it lets you do your own thing at your own pace.
You need to check what you want to use it for before switching. There may be software that you can't live without. But if that is fine, then come on in. Sit down, have a beer and just enjoy yourself.
Kastri14@reddit
Windows is funding the genocide in the gaza strip
SatBurner@reddit
My take: With different flavors of linux being available, you can extend the life of hardware you already have. This becomes a big selling point when you have things like Windows 11 requiring new hardware. Compatibility of a lot of commonly used file types means people who used to fear switching because they didn't want to lose the ability to use certain software, no longer have that fear as much.
nonesense_user@reddit
Linux is a better operating-system, in general.
* Usage (shells, utils, efficiency, graphical environment)
* Stability
* Efficiency
* Package-Managment
* Security
* Free software, meaning the source code is free
What is treacherous are people moving from Windows to Linux because they don't like Windows. I also don't like Windows or Microsoft but that is not the reason why I use Linux. I use Linux because it is better for me - and for others regarding side-effects.
A lot of Windows users don't like Windows. But they don't want learn Linux - which is similar an alternative and not even similar to Windows. Things start getting problematic quickly in that case, they try to install closed-source drivers because they always installed drivers and believe that is something the user should do. Followed by "I want to run X from Windows on Linux" (e.g. Photoshop). It is a good thing to welcome that people - because every Windows users (or any person using proprietary software) cause harm due to side-effects. But telling them, that it doesn't work that way is important. They often need to learn, that they don't know computers, they know Windows.
The easy group are children and elderly. They don't know Windows much and appreciate Linux rather well.
PS: If someone actually needs an "alternative" to Windows it is ReacOS. Which has no connection to Linux.
Bathroom_Humor@reddit
because i told them to, mostly.
octoelli@reddit
It doesn't matter the system, whether you want a PC to use the browser, webcam, microphone or watch a movie.
As that old man says... "In war we use the weapons we have"
There are options, whether they are more or less good than in Win. You'll have to learn how to use it.
In the end, everything ends well
GazonkFoo@reddit
The current hype i feel in past months comes from "US-Companies Bad" and some influencers switching but in general i think the main big thing is gaming. If you wanted to game there was no way around Windows or at least few people where ready to give up the convenience and immediate access to every new game for the few benefits of linux. Especially since i feel most wouldn't care all that much about their OS and have no idea about open source, privacy etc. Steam Deck/Proton is huge for Desktop Linux imho.
SpecialistLayer@reddit
WIth the crap Microsoft is pushing with the Windows 10 EOF and requiring basically new hardware for Windows 11 support, now is a great time for residential folks to switch to linux. Most stuff people do nowadays is all in the browser. Most people I know of are finally just making the switch to apple and some are going with the full linux route so they can use their existing computers, which are usually perfectly fine still. Business environments are a whole different issue.
plexHamster@reddit
Linux is awesome, especially if you’re a techie but if you’re really looking to switch away from windows, I would suggest you buy yourself a Macintosh.
bapfelbaum@reddit
Windows has become a nightmare not something you like using and more people are starting to realize that.
pitashen@reddit
Where do you get your stats from? just curious. For me if it were not for pc gaming, I would be using linux on a daily basis instead. With forced account creation and ads in the start menu in Win11 are turning a lot of people off.
pensiveChatter@reddit
Because windows seems to be trying to be annoying
Snowrunner31102024@reddit
I bought a refurbished desktop to install Linux on a few years ago. I used it for a while but the only thing I found it could do was edit videos. I do a lot of photo work and there just isn't any decent software for Linux - and yes I did try Wine, and it wouldn't work with the software I tested.
In the end I just stayed with Windows, Linux is fine for some things but for what I want it's useless.
jeretel@reddit
The last Windows I used at home was Windows 95. I switched to Linux and I never looked back. Admittedly, Linux in 2000 was a lot of work. However, today it is easy to install and compatible with all of my hardware. These user experience, in my opinion, is also exceptional and there are so many options for desktop environments or more minimalistic window managers. I open source software and online options fill all of my money software needs.
mrnoonan81@reddit
People used to be more dependent on their home PCs, so switching away from what was familiar was daunting.
roundart@reddit
I'm not sure 2% of the desktop market counts as a huge shift. It's still pretty niche on the desktop. Although its servers power a hefty percentage of the internet. And then of course; android which drives the majority of the phone market in the world.
atiqsb@reddit
Lot of folks hate AI PCs like me! That could be one reason.
Sweetwater98@reddit
When they released a Windows update that affected a lot of businesses (last summer I think). Yeah, that was the best advertisement for Linux.
lokidev@reddit
- No ads in your operating system
- No data gathering of your most intimate data being collected
- One updater to rule them all: Instead of every program having it's own updater and windows having another one, there is just one tool which updates. that's it.
- Fast updates: Updates not only happen fast, but they fix bugs and add features - and not (like on windows) delete fucntionality or force you to accept more ads or some dubious AI.
- far better to change the look and behaviour exactly to your wishes.
popdartan1@reddit
I know 3 people who asked me about switching but can't because of Photoshop and two who switched to Linux. All of them because Windows 10 is dying.
kudlitan@reddit
They want their computer to still be usable after Windows 10"s end of life even if it doesn't meet the requirements of Windows 11.
Thus they need to install another OS onto it.
And they wanted to try Linux because it's free and because it's the OS used by Valve on the Stem Deck.
divad1196@reddit
I am not aware if more people are doing the switch now than before. Linux has been massively dominant on the server side for long, so I guess we are talking about end users.
For end-users, the main issue with linux is the lack of softwares (I am including the games in it). This lack is due to 2 main things: companies don't want to develop for a minority of users and hardware developers don't want their proprietary firmwares to get stolen.
There have been a few major events recently: - nvidia made their code mostly open source - Steam has put a lot of effort for supporting linux - Notorious people (like youtubers) have talked about it.
The more softwares we get on Linux, the more users there will be there, and the more users the more sotwares. That's a virtuous cycle.
nonoimsomeoneelse@reddit
Windows 10 EOS is driving a lot of it. Microsoft is doing their best as well.
Hichiro6@reddit
I see multiple reasons: - American tech boycott (my case) - Price of window vs free linux looking like windows - PiewDiPie recent video - windows 11 update not possible. - Distro with a very similar windows/ apple interface - Boom of portable PC like stream deck, legion go, rog ally,..
Icy-Imagination-3464@reddit
I just switched from Windows 11 (distro hopping couple of months, finally CachyOS). The experience is so satisfying, Windows doesn't stand the comparison at all and I wonder how I endured Microsoft so long. The reasons are: I'm in full control with my PC, no ads, privacy risks, bloatware, nothing consumes my resources without my decision, OS is totally customizable, workflow is clean, fast and satisfying. No problems with gaming on Linux anymore, only minor and easy to handle hardware support issues. In general I think some critical mass has been exceeded in terms of frustration with Microsoft policy and how Windows evolves. In the meantime Linux got Valve support and became reliable, user friendly option. And last but not least: And 0$ vs ~140$.
Manuel_Cam@reddit
1: W10 EOL 2: Recall 3: Pew Die Pie
Johntravis83@reddit
Windows 10 support running out and many machines are not meeting Windows 11 hardware requirements would be my guess.
Capable-Package6835@reddit
It is free, can run on relatively old hardwares, and can handle gaming to some extent now. If there were not so many Windows-only softwares, there would be an even higher number of users who switched to Linux.
plasticbomb1986@reddit
What phone do you have now?
GhostInThePudding@reddit
Because Linux is The Way, The Truth and The Light.
But really more so because Microsoft seem hellbent on making the worst possible OS imaginable and profiting from it by creating a more and more closed and online only "You will own nothing and be happy" environment.
People who like having basic human rights, like the ability to own their own things and control their own personal information, tend to not like that and Linux is the alternative.
Nostonica@reddit
Have you ever bought a new computer and felt that the whole experience was a advertisement for every hardware/software company involved rather than been your personal device?
That you're trying to please a multitude of applications that all want to update themselves in their own special way or they're nagging you to do something or just reminding you that they exist.
Finally have you ever felt dread when it comes to upgrading your OS, something you try to avoid at all costs?
If this has bothered you enough, well Linux is a great alternative to look into.
Conscript11@reddit
For me it's the constant ads in my UI. I also like that I can pull software from a trusted repo that's some guiding principle is profit
activedusk@reddit
It is Windows 10 reaching end of support and the vast majority of those who redused to install 11 or 11 straight up redused to install on their system because oc TPM w plus the spyware issue getting worse and games support on Linux getting better.
Raminagrobi@reddit
For me, it is for different reasons.
I want to use a lot less American products because of the economic war and the US tarrifs.
Microsoft keeps bugging me to upgrade to win 11 even though my computer is not compatible. What frustrates me the most is I can use a win 11 on a virtual machine on my incompatible computer.
Lord_Wisemagus@reddit
I made the switch a couple months ago and I am really starting to feel I came in at a really good time.
I switched because I didn't want microsofts spyware 11 anymore. I was tired of forced updates and forced AI that you can't turn off.
Made me start degoogling, even removing myself from social media wholesale.
Saw some stirring in the community almost immediately, remember a post about someone asking the same question even then. And now with Pewdiepie steering a lot of people this way, things are about to become a lot more interesting. As pewdiepie said as well, with Gabe doing wonders with gaming on linux, there's almost no reason not to switch (with some notable exceptions,) at least for gamers.
I get that some people in the Linux community want to gatekeep, mostly because they want to feel superior in some way; "Linux is for people like ME!" I've seen a few times. For me, I welcome more people. With more people hammering out the kinks and getting more resources for development, we might be in for a proper Linux renaissance.
At least now you can say "I liked Linux before it was cool" like a proper fedora-wearing neckbeard.
I use Arch, btw.
Tony__T@reddit
I use Linux for my server, macOS for my laptop.
hendrix-copperfield@reddit
Windows 10 reached End of Life and a lot of old PCs and Notebooks who still work fine can't be upgraded (easily) to Windows 11 and are officially unsupported. People who have to use such old PCs/Notebook usually don't can or don't want to spend money on a new notebook/PC - so that only leaves either using a Windows 10 installation without security updates or switching to Linux.
The second group switching to Linux hate all the new surveillan- I mean AI Features that will make your live totally easier - it is not to totally control you and sell your data. So their Laptop/PC could get upgraded to Win11, but they hate Win11 because it is shit, they can't continue to use Win10 - so Linux.
Those are the new two main groups switching to Linux right now.
garga_mel8@reddit
For a regular PC user, best advantage is setup one time and forget.
My Debian setup with a tiling wm (Awesome, but can be any other wm) is same for last 10 years. You set your system up, to work efficiently, and keep it.
No stupid prompts to update, you do it when you like. Very robust, and you can keep your workflow undisturbed for as long as you like.
If you prefer tweaking it, you can do that too.
kailashkatheth@reddit
ms recently dropped beloved windows 10 support and old hw doesnt support 11
therealmistersister@reddit
I heard some bigshot youtube dude switched and started doing videos about it. Probably has something to do. Somehow people like to imitate their idols.
Whatever the reason, if someone switches and stays, its a win in my book.
OldSplit4942@reddit
Lots of Europeans sick with US tech.
Unslaadahsil@reddit
It's not that linux us better (though imo it is) but rather that W11 is becoming the straw that's breaking a lot of camels' backs.
Johnginji009@reddit
because win 10 lts support ending this year ,many older one will be unable to support the newer requirements of win 11 .
Low_Example_8474@reddit
Free, faster, more secure, more flexible, more customisable and you do not depend on a multinational
today, the only advantage of Windows is for gaming or for some specific software
sidusnare@reddit
The User Experience on Linux keeps improving while it keeps getting worse for the alternatives.
bzImage@reddit
the year of the linux desktop.
Ecstatic-Network-917@reddit
Multiple factors:
Support for Windows 10 is ending.
Windows 11 needs you to upgrade to higher end hardware AND is filled with AI functions and even more spyware.
Apple is also moving on the AI game, which many dislike
Apple and Windows are American companies, and the USA is.......kind of in a stupid place right now, and so Europeans are starting to look for Open Source alternatives.
Small, medium and large Youtubers are comming in favor of Linux, and thus attracting new users.
This is basically all of it.
Puzzled-Spell-3810@reddit
windows 11 is a terrible os for those who do use it. it’s super bloated and is a resource hog ig. doesn’t make it better microsoft takes every chance possible to log ur data. linux tends to be much lighter on resources and ig makes u feel good upon use. I am unfortunately unable to migrate fully to linux because of university work so i use mac os instead
ag959@reddit
For me: Windows is forcefully installing more and more things on Windows without asking.
Customization or rather options are very limited (for example using a different file explorer for everything (+ unsinstalling default explorer is impossible or will break the system)...
Privacy...
I am using Linux on my notebook and server, windows on my gaming pc.
Planning to replace windows 11 on my gaming pc too when windows is slowing down again like it always does after months or if that happens before, if an update is annoying me.
VoltageGP@reddit
Various content creators have been making noise about it, many people are becoming very dissatisfied with Microsoft. Some are simply curious.
TechaNima@reddit
Because it isn't full of bloat and Spyware made by Microsoft and it doesn't beg you to buy Office 365 every few months while it makes you do the "first time" setup again for no reason.
It does have some nice features, but it does come with its downsides as well. The difference is that those downsides aren't as bad as paying the Apple tax or being annoyed by Microsoft and their BS.
Who knows, maybe enough people switch that Linux comes a real competitor and MS gets that well deserved wake up kick to the balls. Probably not, but one can hope. At least Linux development probably sees a nice up swing as a result of the exodus
sneakywombat87@reddit
Basically windows 11. My only miss is I have a hard time running rhino3d. It runs, but weird things don’t work, like inserting images. EG; a scanned plan that needs to be scaled. It’s a big bummer. The image is just white, as if it doesn’t render. I run a windows VM using gnome-boxes to do it, which I believe is a qemu front end.
Odd_Cauliflower_8004@reddit
Copilota and privacy concerns
stellar-wave-picnic@reddit
probably a combination of
- EU citizens wanting to get rid of as many american products as possible
- modern Windows with its crappy new features (adverticement/gossip-magazine-news garbage everywhere, crappy application search functionality in recent windows versions, AI spy chips, etc etc)
- random popular SoMe people
Achereto@reddit
Apart from a few specific cases (e.g. if you absolutely must use Adobe Software for whatever reason), Linux is the superior Operating System, because it allows you to use your computer the way you want to use it (even if it's only for having a vertical task bar, which was removed with Windows 11).
cmrd_msr@reddit
because microsoft's vision of the future is unpopular. And windows 10 will no longer be supported in the fall.
DirectionEven8976@reddit
I don't like not having control over the computer that I bought with my money. I can decide when there will be an update, I don't want the laptop suddenly deciding it for me. I don't like advertisments on the laptop that I paid for with my money. I never asked for AI on my laptop and I am not interested in having it overseeing what I am doing.
79215185-1feb-44c6@reddit
Do you have a Nintendo Switch and is it hacked?
Terrible-Hornet4059@reddit
Translate: I'm looking for attention and enjoy trolling others. You know good and well what Linux is.
justarandomguy902@reddit
probably, people got fed up of Windows 11 and the AI bullcrap you cannot uninstall
Nearby-Middle-8991@reddit
Two main factors:
Difference between linux and windows is decreasing. Used to be that if one wanted to play games, for instance, no other choice but windows. Reliance on MS office for anything business/homework related.
MS is making it expensive/hard to use windows. Unless you get an OEM license, windows is expensive. And resorting to less than legal solutions is getting annoyingly difficult.
Then you get stuff like ubuntu (or pretty much any other "non hardcore" distro - looking at you gentoo), that you just pop in, boots up with your GPU in a decent state, interface feels slick and quick.
All that said, I'm seeing more people going from windows to tablets than Linux. What used to require a phone (call/text) can be done in watches, what used to require a tablet can be done in phones, and what used to require a desktop/laptop can be easily done in a tablet. Way less maintenance, longer battery life, safer, just a less friction experience...
TwoCanRule@reddit
Also - switching away from USA produced software has become a thing in the world, because: Trump. It’s a well established fact that american intelligence services have legal back doors into US software (Windows, IOS et. al.), and this makes Europe et al feel vulnerable. And so, Linux is a way out of this dependency.
Lost-Tech-7070@reddit
It's good and it's free. Try writing a live iso of a distro that interests you to a usb stick. You can do so with a free tool named balenaEtcher. It will run a little slower than when actually installed. Plug it into a usb slot and reboot your computer to that stick. There should be an option on a bios quick-menu to select it, if your bios isn't already set to boot usb first. It won't modify your hard drive at all unless you tell it to.
PotatoNukeMk1@reddit
It is different.
I think the issue is windows 10 and 11 try to push to hard into the cloud service subscription. With every major update you lose more and more control over your own hardware. Thats what makes linux better than windows.
See above. You have more control. Security is also higher if you know what you do. Some features are also more comfortable. For example the package system. You dont have to deal with hundrets installer if you want your system up to date. Microsoft tried to do that also but because of their philosophy it just dont works :D
79215185-1feb-44c6@reddit
It's always to rationalize their inability to address basic IT questions. If Windows=Bad then Linux=Good. Has been happening to macOS for decades.
This thread (and all of the other threads like it) are basically nothing but "I want the answer, but I'm not willing to do the work" types of people.
Scasne@reddit
Partly Linux has gotten a lot better (yes I know about Wine) but steam compatibility is quite good with games now (at least from my play where I'm using Linux as a workhorse to stream a game to a windows machine), the increase in motivation is the worse and worse product/malware and overall contempt of ownership by Microsoft.
Bharny@reddit
Windows 10 dieing.
Adventurous_Body2019@reddit
Try it then you will know
kububarlana@reddit
It was the year 2000 when I installed Linux in a dual boot configuration on my home computer. Soon after that I realized that I don't boot Windows anymore, so it became a single boot Linux machine, and I never looked back. During those 25 years I always had Windows on my company paid laptop, so I never lost perspective of where Windows was. I never stopped wondering why people would use Windows without getting paid for it.
belly917@reddit
The sunsetting of Windows 10 is dooming a ton of very capable computers to the recycle pile due to the incompatibility with windows 11.
It's honestly disgusting how many computers this is affecting.
I suspect that the uptick in Linux is due to keeping these useful computers working with an OS that gets security updates.
venerablenormie@reddit
It's always been better than Windows, but Windows is finally bad enough for the normies to want to jump ship. See: PewDiePie's video.
Alaknar@reddit
Two reasons.
/r/BuyFromEU and the general trend to boycott US software.
Apparently, a big YouTuber recently switched too.
Depends. For some things its better, for other, it's worse.
I switched because I have two panoramic screens and HATE having the TaskBar on the bottom on a panoramic screen. Windows 11 removed the ability of moving the TaskBar to the side of the screen. Also, the non-primary TaskBar is gimped, compared to Win10 - if you click the clock, it doesn't open the calendar.
TuringComplete213@reddit
Because it's awesome
QuentinMagician@reddit
And the funny part is, if you are just using it for boring stuff like documents, browsing, simple stuff, it IS easier to maintain. It is a fix it and forget it ( though I have only used Ubuntu and now mint lately)
emptypencil70@reddit
Steam OS making games more compatible, Windows and other paid software BULLSHIT, Linux being free and open source and more customizable, Pewdiepie