Are there any Great Depression-themed restaurants in the United States?
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I’ve been reading about the history of the Great Depression in the United States recently. Although it wasn’t a good period in history, many new dishes were invented during that time, such as Hoover Stew, Mock Apple Pie, and Dandelion Salad. These dishes may not necessarily be delicious, but I find them very interesting. Has anyone ever opened a Great Depression-themed restaurant?
fossel42@reddit
Soon will be , it’s called closed down restaurants
lantana98@reddit
It was not a time noted for its great cuisine.
Plenty_Unit9540@reddit
I used to know a few restaurants that had been around since before the Great Depression, mostly unchanged.
Not that they were pushing a theme. Just that they had been either under the same owner or the same family for forever and saw no reason to change.
The brown beans and cornbread at Cotton’s were awesome, but old man Cotton and his wife were both in their 90’s last time I was there.
njshine27@reddit
My kitchen is definitely depression themed some days…
col_buendia@reddit
Maybe wait a couple years and they'll just be called "restaurants."
CurrencyCapital8882@reddit
I seriously doubt it.
tsukiii@reddit
Here’s the thing… not many people have nostalgia for or fascination with a bad time with bad food.
OhThrowed@reddit
I've got some fascination with the food. It's really interesting how things were stretched. I'd never pay a restaurant to experience it though.
Aint2Proud2Meg@reddit
Ummm yeah that’s an incredibly apt point. It’s the cheapest food one can forage and scrounge for, last thing I want to do is pay restaurant markup for it lol.
“Why is the pickled tumbleweed appetizer $13?”
HereForTheBoos1013@reddit
If you read Trevor Noah's Born a Crime, I believe it mentions the "dog bones" that his mom fed the family on when they were REALLY broke in South Africa and discovering they'd been upcycled at 20 dollars as bone marrow at US tapas joints.
Aint2Proud2Meg@reddit
I have read it, and when I was done with it I put it down and really just sat with it awhile. It’s amazing.
Wetald@reddit
I will gladly send you as much rumble weed for pickling as your heart desires!
Amidormi@reddit
Archive org has old cookbooks that are fascinating at what people use to eat. There's also that Great Depression cooking youtube with Clara where she reviews a lot of those things.
JudgeWhoOverrules@reddit
Never stopped the British from continuing to eat like the Luftwaffe is overhead.
DegenerateCrocodile@reddit
Yeah, the British are weird.
Did you know that they drink their tea instead of throwing it into the harbor? Insane.
HereForTheBoos1013@reddit
Eh some tea is worth tossing in a harbor. Lipton comes immediately to mind.
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
And they add weird U's to normal words. We should shun them.
Snoo-20174@reddit
And they add weird U's to normal words. We should shn them.
fify
11twofour@reddit
And replace Zs, the most awesome of letters, with lame-ass Ss.
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
Not you're just passing me off!!!! Let get 'em.
txlady100@reddit
🏆
suffaluffapussycat@reddit
When I was a kid we once went to a chain restaurant called “Po’ Folks”
https://www.kevingibsonwriter.com/blog/the-taste-bud-revisiting-memories-of-po-folks-restaurant
shartheheretic@reddit
We still have a Po'Folks in the city where I live, and they still have most of those "delicacies" on the menu.
GarlicAftershave@reddit
You'd think that would be true in Minnesota and western Wisconsin, and yet, every weekend during fall months you're probably within driving distance of some church's lutefisk dinner.
Relevant_Elevator190@reddit
lutefisk
No dirty words please.
MarkNutt25@reddit
Oh, I don't know about that. Our current leadership seems positively hell-bent on bringing it back!
tsukiii@reddit
They want the fantasy of the “good old days” even though it’s actually leading to economic chaos
us287@reddit
No, that’s not a time people want to remember + it’s not food people want to eat
Historical-Badger259@reddit
Why don’t I open a restaurant that serves cold cereal for dinner, commodity cheese, powdered milk, and hotdogs served on white bread instead of buns? Probably because no one wants to remember what my poor ass ate in the 90s when my family was going through a tough time financially. Same thing applies here. Not only do these recipes not taste great (with some exceptions), but they’re depressing.
Optimal-Emergency-38@reddit
Is cold cereal not normal where you grew up?
Historical-Badger259@reddit
Not for dinner.
EUGsk8rBoi42p@reddit
With the cost of eating out right now, a super cheap American style restaurant chain that can match 90s McDonalds prices for a mean actually might be able to take off.
helen790@reddit
Banana bread was created during the great depression and it’s my favorite bread.
Other than that I agree, it’d probably be a bleak restaurant.
213737isPrime@reddit
Mock Apple Pie actually isn't bad.
_Internet_Hugs_@reddit
Anything worth eating has been added to our general American Food. Cornbread and beans, red beans and rice, biscuits and gravy. Things that were rehashed for the rationing during WW2.
CrashDisaster@reddit
Wacky Cake is pretty tasty
Braith117@reddit
You mean you don't want to eat water pie?
G00dSh0tJans0n@reddit
I did make a big pot of Hoover Stew last year just because I was curious. I hope I never have to eat it again.
Optimal-Emergency-38@reddit
No lol tf?
stolenfires@reddit
The closest we have is Dylan Hollis, who replicates Depression-Era foods.
MissVachonIfYouNasty@reddit
Max Miller Tasting History also has some depression era episodes.
GulfofMaineLobsters@reddit
I like his videos, he amuses me.
MyDaroga@reddit
He makes plenty of Depression era food and is himself Great, but he’s also from Bermuda and therefore sadly not American.
stolenfires@reddit
Whoa, I had no idea he's from Bermuda! I assumed he was a hipster living in a hipster city like Portland or Seattle.
FlobyToberson85@reddit
I believe he lives in Wyoming, of all places.
UnattributableSpoon@reddit
He does! And we're proud to have him, he's an absolute delight of a human in person too.
stolenfires@reddit
He seems really cool to hang out with, congrats Wyoming!
SwimmingWarthog8796@reddit
EGGIES!!
grey_canvas_@reddit
MOO JUICE!!
Riccma02@reddit
And he gags at every other recipe he makes
literacyisamistake@reddit
But the chocolate potato cake? It’s amazing. I bake weird or elaborate cakes for people’s birthdays at work, and someone requested the Hollis chocolate potato cake. I made it and - oh my god. It’s so good.
FightWithTools926@reddit
Youtuber Emmymade has also done her share of "hard times" recipe, including fiver different dandelion recipes and a few "desperation pies"
ContributionDapper84@reddit
Just eat cold boiled poke weed in a ol’ box car
JadeHarley0@reddit
No. I think a lot of people would think such a restaurant was in poor taste. Imagine a Holocaust themed restaurant in Poland.
Chateaudelait@reddit
Not Great Depression themed but there is one called Po Folks where they serve hearty country fare. It's got kind of a hayseed /Beverly Hillbillies vibe. The menu looks decent - burgers, chops , fried chicken, greens, fried tomatoes.
ErnestBatchelder@reddit
The only thing the great depression gave people was a repeal of prohibition.
Most of the time in marketing you want to sell people something they would actually want, and a historical-themed restaurant celebrating a period when many people went hungry is a pretty hard sell.
Reader47b@reddit
Maybe if it was a charity restaurant and all proceeds went to feed the hungry you could do it...
LorettasToyBlogPojo@reddit
Considering how bad the economy is getting, the whole idea would seem like another slap in the face of the poor by the rich. Remember isn't it a few per cent of Americans hold about 95% of the wealth here? My dad survived the Depression. People starving or worse would seem like a poor choice for a "theme" restaurant. If people want to see how the poor eat, maybe volunteer time at a soup kitchen so you can see the reality that many people in America are still starving? Anyhow, my take, only people with money could afford to eat at a theme restaurant and I kind of view this as yet another "let's make fun of people who are unhoused/starving" gesture. I guess you'd have to live here to understand, but that's exactly how I'm seeing this.
If you want to get an idea of the food itself, I'm sure there are recipes. I remember Ritz crackers had a mock apple pie recipe on the box in the 1970's, it's something like taking crackers and seasoning them like apples (cinnamon, etc.) for pie filling. Honestly Ritz crackers aren't exactly cheap, guessing if they were making mock apple pie during the Depression they'd be using something starchy for the filling. Never asked my dad what he ate to survive. He was orphaned at a young age so he was not doing well as a teen during the 1930's.
battlebarnacle@reddit
We used to have HARD TIMES CAFE which was a chili place that had a Depression Era motif
julesk@reddit
I think most Americans prefer to serve their own Depression food at home where it’s cheaper as that’s the point.
MeanTelevision@reddit
No, it was a time when people stared and jumped form buildings in despair.
Wouldn't make a very snappy title for a chain restaurant.
There's Cracker Barrel, and other places, which serve some old timey dishes.
CattleDowntown938@reddit
Ooh actually Cracker Barrel is probably Great Depression themed without admitting to it. Sawmill gravy pancakes and eggs were cheap foods
czarfalcon@reddit
Eggs? Cheap food? Oh how far we’ve come…
_Internet_Hugs_@reddit
Back then a lot of people had backyard chickens. My grandpa had chickens in his yard until the early 2000s because they'd been grandfathered in. He'd had chickens consistently since the 1950s when his house was in the middle of nowhere and the city grew up around him. He was born during the Great Depression and chickens were just something everyone had, he grew up with them. When he got married he outfitted his house with chickens like anyone else would add landscaping.
Incidentally, he was adorable about his chickens. He called them his girls and kept them long past their laying age. When one died of old age he would bury it like a pet and the next spring he'd go to the feed store and get new chicks. Occasionally he'd end up with quail and once or twice a duck that people would give him.
RevDrGeorge@reddit
Yeah, chickens were often the little side-hustle for lower-income rural women. Until they started making decent money at it, and their husbands took it over. And didn't know how to handle it. Luckily there were some agribusiness concerns that were magnamous, and they offered to do all the feed calculations, bring in the birds, etc. All you have to do was sign on the line, and tell me how many chicken houses you have!
And now, you've got maybe 4 major players, all MASSIVE, vertically integrated, national concerns with the best lawyers and contracts.
And surprise, surprise, they are being investigated for price fixing....
MeanTelevision@reddit
Those fortunate enough to live on a farm or maybe in a rural area and who were able to have some type of animal, fared and ate better.
Families who lived in urban areas and the adults could not find work...there were not the social programs then which there are now.
I was told about starvation, no shoes in winter, but there was a sort of community garden, but it did not grow much and could not offer food year around.
Madrona88@reddit
FIL was born in Houston but they moved to the country because they weren't land poor. Chickens, cows, watermelon. Grampa sounds sweet.
Wetald@reddit
I see you’re in Texas too, mind if I ask the general area and what you’re paying for eggs? I was in Costco in Lubbock a month ago and 18ct large eggs were $5.85 and my local walmart had them this week for $5.88.
czarfalcon@reddit
I’m in the Austin area - 18 count large eggs are $6.39 at HEB, $5.88 at Walmart.
GooseCreek0701@reddit
I don't think a restaurant would do well with that kind of food, Great Depression era food was born out of necessity and not because it was particularly good
PurpleLilyEsq@reddit
I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s maybe a cookbook out there, but a restaurant would never survive doing something like that. Maybe a cafeteria in a Great Depression themed museum could get enough one time visitors to sustain itself?
sallylooksfat@reddit
OP should check out “Great Depression Cooking” on YouTube! They don’t make episodes any more but they used to star this sweet little old lady named Clara, who lived through the depression. I think she also had a cookbook at one point, but I have no idea if it’s still in print since her passing some time ago.
JessyBelle@reddit
https://www.welcometoclaraskitchen.com
Clara’s chocolate-almond biscotti is on my repeat recipe list.
Treje-an@reddit
I remember that! I just re-watched an episode and kind of freaked out a bit seeing the Great Depression lasted 10 years acc to the video’s intro!
UnattributableSpoon@reddit
All four of my grandparents grew up during the Depression. I have one of my Great Grandmother's set if handwritten recipe cards full of Depression era dishes. A lot of things are pretty darn tasty, and as food prices go up and my shitty EMS paycheck doesn't...I've been turning to great grandma's Depression recipes a lot more often these days.
Some recipes are truly awful, though 😂
round_a_squared@reddit
There are definitely cookbooks dedicated to the recipes of that era, as well as chefs and YouTubers who present that kind of food history. But yeah, it's a matter of curiosity and historical preservation not because they're delicious.
a22x2@reddit
The WWII museum in New Orleans has a victory garden-themed restaurant - I don’t think I’ve ever known a non-museum visitor to eat there, but they seem to have enough visitors for it to work out for them
MeanTelevision@reddit
> Hoover stew
Haven't heard it called that but hobo stew was basically odds and ends. Dandelion salad, and mock apple pie (consisted of crackers) also aren't things people might want to pay, to eat.
There are already tons of places with healthy greens in salads. Not everyone was even able to eat those things btw, they might not have access to dandelion weeds, or have crackers or an oven.
I don't think modern diners are clamoring to sample head cheese, bologna rind or scraps, tripe, potted meat, or flour cakes. I mean, as the entire meal.
I'm not sure if OP is joking. It is a very painful time or memory for those who lived through it and even those they told about it.
I can just picture the framed headlines on the walls: 1929 stock market crash! Millions penniless! Or photos of men in ice suits selling apples on the corner, or standing in 'bread lines.'
GrayRainfall@reddit (OP)
I’m really not joking, and I’m sorry if it came across that way. I understand it was a very hard and painful time. But honestly, I have a lot of respect for how people back then found creative ways to make new dishes out of whatever cheap ingredients they had.
MrLongWalk@reddit
It would be like a restaurant themed after war rationing in the UK.
AldenteAdmin@reddit
I mean the UK has held onto their struggle foods for longer than a lot of western societies admittedly. Beans on toast is the obvious one, but in general you can see a lot of food that’s held on strong from industrialization and the blitz.
Not that the US is THAT different. It just seems every Brit has had a beans on toast type snack/meal in their lives. You’ll find that there are regional variations of the struggle meal in the US, but they are rarely rooted in a certain era. Our strongest running holdout from ww2 is probably cream chipped beef, and I’d say most people still wouldn’t eat it if they didn’t have to. I really like the stuff, but I can understand how the navy meal known as “shit on a shingle” hasn’t found widespread modern appeal.
dontlookback76@reddit
Love me some SOS. I haven't had it in years. Lots of biscuits and gravy, but for some reason, I haven't attempted a shot at SOS.
baycommuter@reddit
The WW2 vets in VA nursing homes insisted on having “shit on a shingle” on the regular monthly menu.
UnattributableSpoon@reddit
My family was lower middle class when I was a kid (parents were a professor and an archaeologist, things were tight financially back then).
We called SOS "creamed dangle worms on toast" and "thinly sliced tender roast beef in a delicately seasoned white sauce on toast." Both nicknames came from my dad's side of the family, and it's actually pretty tasty!
lowfreq33@reddit
Beans on toast wouldn’t be so bad if they actually seasoned it.
the_falconator@reddit
Tbh British people still eat like they are in the middle of the blitz, beans on toast?!?
QueenMarinette@reddit
Look to l Ukraine for modern, innovative wartime dishes.
Potential_Being_7226@reddit
Yeah, amazing how “creative” people can be when the alternative is dying from starvation.
coldlightofday@reddit
I think you could have a lot of fun recreating these meals. They generally aren’t that complicated. Hoover stew would be easy and by design it’s meant to be what you have on hand. It’s not hard to boil some pasta, sauté an onion and some meat, pour in a can of beans and a can of tomatoes and add some veggies and simmer for a bit.
UnattributableSpoon@reddit
Both sets of my grandparents grew up during the Depression and I have one of my great grandmother's recipe cards. Including depression-era recipes, which are often tastier than expected. Though some dishes were truly awful, lol. And dandelion greens make a great addition to a salad!
newhappyrainbow@reddit
The food born out of extreme poverty that people here still like to eat has evolved into modern southern cooking.
reyadeyat@reddit
I think your idea would really only work if it were, say, a pop-up connected to a museum exhibit about the Great Depression. There's just not a recurring audience for these recipes.
CalamityClambake@reddit
"Hey! Remember that time when you were a kid and your grandma got drunk at Thanksgiving and broke down in tears because she was having a flashback of the time during the Depression when her daddy was killed in a coal mining accident and her mom had to sell her sister to a ranch because she couldn't afford to keep the house? Wanna make that a dining experience?"
Yeeeeaaahhh... I'm a restaurant owner in the US and I could not make this concept work. I get you weren't trying to be insensitive, but... Yikes, my dude.
Also, the food they made back then? It sucks. You only want to eat it if you're starving. Like, I can get behind some cheap comfort food, like hot dogs and Mac or government cheese sandwiches. But Depression-era food is on a whole other level. And that level is in Hell.
MidnightNo1766@reddit
I think we all realize that you're not joking. That's kind of what's horrifying.
Glass_Bar_9956@reddit
Might be a sensitive topic for us Americans concerned that we are headed back into that level of poverty.
French_Apple_Pie@reddit
I eat dandelions (picked from my garden, where I can guarantee they are poison free) in an arugula salad all the time in the early spring. They are fantastic—just slightly peppery—before the flowers bloom. They’ve been highly nutritious culinary and medicinal staples for centuries. Baker Creek Seeds sells four different varieties—French, Japanese, Italian and pink.
MeanTelevision@reddit
I like dandelion tea.
French_Apple_Pie@reddit
I regret never having the chance to try my grandpas dandelion wine. 😕
MeanTelevision@reddit
Oh I bet that would be a lovely beverage. I've never seen it anywhere, it must be one of those homemade items.
I haven't had dandelion salad either, I don't think. It could be sold as part of a salad, I had trouble clarifying but I don't think people would journey just to try it, since there are other healthy greens. Cultivating a weed as a crop must be difficult and that is why I concluded we don't see it on menus, or bagged at the grocery. Maybe as tea there is less required?
It's supposedly very good for health, dandelions. But people should beware of foraging, in case of lawn chemicals.
French_Apple_Pie@reddit
I haven’t tried planting the fancy varieties of dandelions (maybe I’ll have to order some seeds now lol) but they self-sow readily in my garden if I don’t stay on top of them; and once a root is established you can take multiple cutting from the greens. I’ll eat a little myself, and cut a lot for our bunnies. Harvesting it is similar to most of the other non-heading greens I grow: mesclun, spinach, cress, mustard, etc.
Foraging is so hot right now, I think a good chef could do wonders with a foraged menu. For decades, ramps were just hillbilly Appalachian food, and then they exploded in popularity, with a lot of chefs showcasing them (and ramps patches being brutally overharvested). But yes, it would have to appeal to people interested in more adventurous cuisines, and not the sort of American that is disgusted by something as simple as chèvre. 😕
If you’re not familiar with them, I recommend following Black Forager (“Don’t die!”) and some of the indigenous chefs using all native ingredients like Sean Sherman, who heads up Owamni in Minneapolis and wrote The Sioux Chef cookbook.
I’ve never made dandelion wine, but it seems like a pretty simple process (after picking a crap load of dandelion flowers) and according to this article, there are many health benefits to it. https://www.hiddenlegendwinery.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-drinking-dandelion-wine
MeanTelevision@reddit
Dandelion is a good and nutritious plant, even used for medicinal tea. I like it; its taste is a bit grassy but I don't mind that, it 'tastes healthy' if that makes sense, and it did help me to feel better. I'm not claiming any medical facts; people can look into it if they want to. This is merely anecdotal and is a layperson story.
If they proliferate so easily that's a risk if you don't want them everywhere but yes, cultivated carefully, they are a cheap and nutritious resource. I just didn't want them to overtake anyone's yard like kudzu. So I would say grow cautiously, and also, avoid if pesticides were used. (There are natural gardening methods and natural yard care methods. British royal gardens use some such methods.)
So if done carefully this could be a plentiful resource.
As for a foraging menu I agree but it couldn't be a chain type of restaurant. Those are so widespread and in so many varied settings including very urban, and many rely on constant shipments of frozen, packaged foods.
But as an artisanal greens type of salad, yes. But I felt OP was talking about chains. If someone did make a restaurant featuring retro "Depression era" foods then they'd have to present it in a positive way. A lot of our relatives or ancestors had painful memories from that time.
Many of the other foods resorted to by those who had no real access to food or money, and food banks did not exist then AFAIK or not in all cities, were not nutritious nor filling. Mock apple pie is made from crackers. There were people who could not buy crackers, or bake any type of pie. They ate ingredients as is.
And yes it was global but I only know much about the experiences of Americans during that time. No one from elsewhere has confided stories in me.
Also if anyone forages be sure to educate yourself very very well first. Some mushrooms are toxic for instance. But yes it's a way people ate for centuries and still do.
emma_kayte@reddit
I'm opening a Spanish Flu Bar and Grill in the Fall
Creatableworld@reddit
I don't know what country OP is from, but the Great Depression was a worldwide crisis. And this concept is in terribly poor taste, as it were.
KingOfTheNorth91@reddit
I have seen dandelion greens as a part of a salad on a menu but definitely exceedingly rare and not something most places would serve
473713@reddit
I shop at a co-op that features lots of regional organic foods, and I've definitely seen dandelion greens for sale in the spring. Not later in the summer, because they get tough and rank tasting.
MeanTelevision@reddit
Yes, although they are healthy and places could cultivate them.
fairelf@reddit
Many of us lived this as children or grandchildren of Depression and WWII era housewives, so no need to pay someone else to make stretch the budget dishes for us.
My grandmother made a weekly roast on Sunday, hash from it on Monday, some other use of the leftover on Wed, and fish on Friday. Who knows what was scraped together the other 3 days, but my mother took those habits and added to it the "convenience" dishes from Good Housekeeping, Better Homes, or the back of processed food boxes & cans during the 60's through 80's to torment my palate growing up. A main difference being that the older generation could cook from scratch and the Baby Boomers relied on convenience.
I had enough slumgullion, creamed tuna, turkey "chop suey," and bizarre concoctions from canned and boxed products to last a lifetime, thank you.
Unusual_Memory3133@reddit
Do you have any idea what bad taste that is? I mean… really?
thepeasantlife@reddit
We ate different versions of Depression-era meals during the 1970s stagflation. If I were to open a 70s-themed diner, I'd call it Government Cheese. It would feature oatmeal, nettle soup, sh*t on a shingle, powdered milk, tuna casserole, and that weird cheese fudge my mom made.
French_Apple_Pie@reddit
Nettle tips are absolutely amazing, cooked as a soup or as a green. I always pick a good bunch when I’m out hunting for morels.
thepeasantlife@reddit
Chanterelles for me. :)
Nettle soup is one of my favorites.
French_Apple_Pie@reddit
Ooh, chanterelles! 👀 I notice you are a fellow peasant. I honestly love the thought of a 1930s Hard Times Cafe. I would serve biscuits with redbud jelly and violet jelly, fry up elderflower and squash blossom fritters, pickle ramps and eggs, keep a Jersey cow for all kinds of cream and cheese products, and sew the napkins, curtains and tablecloths out of really beautiful 1930s feed sack material. Every time I open a huge bag of dog, cat, poultry or rabbit food I’m annoyed that I don’t get a couple yards of some charming fabric.
thepeasantlife@reddit
I'd eat there, fellow peasant! (Gluten-free options anyway--celiac disease is obnoxious.)
I may try using our pet food and chicken feed bags as grow bags this year. I have a stack of them and a whole lot of extra tomato starts, even after giving a bunch away. I'd rather have the fabric, too, though....
I'm on the fence about getting goats--I know I don't have the right setup for a cow. I've studied goat breeds and care and made a good space for them in case I want to bite the bullet. But for now, I'm pretty well occupied with chickens and bees and working on expanding both operations. Chickens are easier...
Grunt08@reddit
That sounds about as sensible as a Troubles-themed pub in Ireland.
Decent-Bear334@reddit
Happy hour prices for Irish Car Bombs.
machuitzil@reddit
My hometown is a big destination for Irish college students on J-1 visas in the summers. Every summer somebody comes along in a bar and asks them about Car Bombs -the drink, that is. Or make a joke about it, or offer someone one.
I never saw this turn into an argument or anything like that, but the Irish would always decline and change the subject. They seemed to find the drink named in poor taste. They'd also look genuinely confused, or mildly annoyed whenever yet another American comes along and says "hey I'm Irish too!"
BlitzballGroupie@reddit
I mean, sure imagine asking someone in a bar in Texas for a "Roadside IED" or a "Timothy McVeigh"
Fair_Woodpecker_6088@reddit
More akin to going into a bar in Manhattan and asking for a 9/11
LurkerByNatureGT@reddit
A mix of that and the tasteless drink name being for something you just wouldn’t do to your Guinness.
You don’t fuck with a good pint.
cryptoengineer@reddit
Wait till you learn about a 'Black and Tan'
LurkerByNatureGT@reddit
There is a difference between something happening to have a descriptive name elsewhere in the world that is avoided for coincidental bad historical connotations in one country, and deliberately naming something after political violence.
"Half and half"s aren't exactly popular in Ireland, but it's not like they curdle.
cryptoengineer@reddit
I used to live in Britain. There, it is universally recognized that the name of the drink is an allusion to the militia, and a deliberate slap to the Irish. Can you show an independent-of-a-Troubles-connection origin in the States?
LurkerByNatureGT@reddit
The layering of dark and light beers in the UK started in the 17th century with the name “black and tan” attested to the 19th century, so it predates the violence of demobbed WWI veterans sent to Ireland to bolster the RIC by decades at least.
cryptoengineer@reddit
Interesting. So the militia may have got its nickname from the drink, not the other way around.
TIL....
But yes, don't go into an Irish bar, in the US, Ireland, or Britain, and ask for a 'Black and Tan'.
LurkerByNatureGT@reddit
The militia got their name because they were unemployed (and probably unemployable with PTSD) soldiers and there was a shortage of RIC uniforms, so a lot of them wore an improvised uniform of black RIC coats over khaki army trousers. They were literally wearing black and tan.
JackStraw-Waukesha@reddit
Is that a real drink?
Madrona88@reddit
Dutch Bros. Had a coffee drink named 911. Like an emergency, not the date..
Amidormi@reddit
Doubt it, probably sounds similar to the 'side car' some restaurants have.
machuitzil@reddit
I was bartending at a Sports Bar on the night we got Osama bin Laded. It was weird. There were some cheers, but it wasn't exactly celebratory. Most people were quiet. People were just taking it in, on 30 screens I'd switched from sports to the news. And I was standing around with nothing to do.
Not like I was pushing for sales, but I was working and no one was buying anything. Word got out and people just came in off the street to see. This was a unique night.
But I did have a spill tab, the owner liked to promote, so I poured out a shot for everybody in the bar and most people took one. And I could write it off.
We drank, and we watched, and we witnessed. In my bar at least it wasn't a party. It was a memorial. It was a wake. It was something, but nobody had any words to talk about it.
BlitzballGroupie@reddit
Yup. Nailed it.
S3simulation@reddit
I recently explained why this was a problematic drink name to a coworker yesterday
BetterCranberry7602@reddit
And black and tans
silviazbitch@reddit
Those exist, or they used to. I unwittingly found myself in one in Dublin during the troubles.
LexiNovember@reddit
The IRA blew up my Da, twice, then shot at him. But in the States I do still enjoy chugging an Irish Car Bomb from time to time if there are only Americans around to hear me order it. 🤷♀️
silviazbitch@reddit
I was over there on a rugby tour. A teammate and I went to a bar in Dublin because the Wolfe Tones were playing there. They played traditional stuff for their first set, songs we’d heard from their recordings. The featured . . . newer songs. The first was called Ode to Bobby Sands and they continued in that vein. We got a little uncomfortable when we realized we’d found ourselves at an IRA fundraiser.
chewbooks@reddit
I was thinking a famine themed place that serves fries.
redditprofile99@reddit
LOL! For real
PrpleSparklyUnicrn13@reddit
A Great Depression themed restaurant? Yikes. This is NOT a fun theme.
SuperPomegranate7933@reddit
I don't imagine a place like that would turn enough business to survive. Haven't seen one, personally.
thewags05@reddit
It could be rich people food during the depression though
SuperPomegranate7933@reddit
Maybe, but that doesn't sound like what OP is asking about.
Amidormi@reddit
Ugh no. You can even look at cookbooks from like the 20's and most of us would barf at the recipes in them.
_VictorTroska_@reddit
The problem is that depression era food is literally just “food” still for a lot of Americans in 2025. I’m not paying $20 + tax and tip for a bowl of beef stew when I could make a whole pot of it for $10.
I know how to make depression era food. Most households eat it multiple times a week whether they think of it that way or not. If Americans are going to eat out, we tend to either want a fast in and out food or something we can’t make at home.
Also- diners are a thing, at least in the north east. Most will have home cooked dinners on the menu. But again, look at the prices; they tend to run $20-$30 a plate.
Rustmutt@reddit
This is the answer. Meatloaf is technically a Great Depression thing as a means to stretch meat. I make it at home a lot and while it’s available at restaurants it’s not something I’d pay restaurant prices and tip for. I also make Hoover stew but it’s like, whatever remnants of various pastas and misc meats and veg I have, I’d have a hard time justifying buying that in a restaurant what’s basically necessity scraps.
SuperPomegranate7933@reddit
This is a fair point - part of the appeal of going out for food is trying something you wouldn't do at home.
whipla5her@reddit
Yeah that would be a tough sell. It would have to be more museum than restaurant to attract anyone. Or you could really lean into it and make people wait in line for 10 hours for a cup of Mac & cheese with spam.
Kyauphie@reddit
No, there are no restaurants celebrating a time when people starved en masse, and we don't have Confederate Civil War themed restaurants serving parched corn coffee either.
Pan_Fried_Okra@reddit
The closest thing would be Cracker Barrel
101bees@reddit
Not that I know of. As others have said, the Great Depression isn't exactly looked upon fondly, and it would be kind of distasteful to try to market off of what was a dark time in American history.
PromiseThomas@reddit
No, but B. Dylan Hollis (tiktok, YouTube, cookbook author) will often make videos where he makes and reviews Great Depression recipes if it interests you.
The Great Depression is still remembered as a very tragic time in US history. Many of us grew up with parents/grandparents/great-grandparents who lived through it and were clearly traumatized by it, anywhere from refusing to put their money in banks to refusing to let food go to waste.
Madrona88@reddit
Have you read The Worst Hard Time? About surviving the dust bowl. Excellent book
Bluemonogi@reddit
I have never heard of one.
garden__gate@reddit
Here in Seattle, we have a restaurant called How to Cook a Wolf, named after a famous Depression-Era cookbook. Ironically, it’s a pretty high-end restaurant where meals are $50+/head before drinks.
Dingbat2022@reddit
People starved during the Great Depression... Doesn't seem like a great restaurant theme to me.
terryaugiesaws@reddit
That's one hell of a concept to try to make marketable.
Roaring 20s era speakeasies are way easier of a business to try and market IMO
Yggdrasil-@reddit
That and 50s-style diners (which are definitely a thing here)
Tooch10@reddit
I remember a lot of 50s themed restaurants in the 90s and they were all gone by the 2000s
EuphoricMoose8232@reddit
Johnny Rockets is still sputtering along
Tooch10@reddit
I mean yeah, but that's the not restaurants I mean. I'm talking about the ones that were typically locally owned and were filled with authentic décor from the period. Johnny Rockets is a chrome and red colored modern restaurant that emulates the 50s via a couple design cues
Weightmonster@reddit
Nifty Fifty’s is still around.
weirdoldhobo1978@reddit
Speakeasy themed gastropubs had their thing in the early 2000s, guess what put a stop to that?
CokBlockinWinger@reddit
What?
tinycole2971@reddit
The Quiznos rat
WeirdJawn@reddit
But I did love Quiznos subs. They got a pepper bar!
tinycole2971@reddit
Quiznos was great! Apparently, there are still a few scattered around here and there. The rabbit hole on how they went out of business is pretty interesting.
CokBlockinWinger@reddit
It’s all a rich tapestry
weirdoldhobo1978@reddit
An economic recession
Red_Beard_Rising@reddit
Luckily I lived a few blocks from Chicago's Green Mill (Al Capone's place) in the early-mid 2000's. All the best jazz artists that come through town play there. Aside from the clothes people are wearing, it really feels like stepping back in time when you are there. It's still a powerhouse of the local jazz scene today.
Circus-Geek@reddit
People typically want to pay for good food not interesting food. They pay for good and read about interesting.
Setsailshipwreck@reddit
There’s a YouTube channel called Great Depression Cooking With Clara. It’s a very nice grandma sharing recipes, cooking videos and history
fir_meit@reddit
I’m so glad you posed this. I just looked at the channel (RIP Clara) and so many of these are the recipes I grew up with. My mother was born early on in the depression and grew up with these Italian-American versions of depression food. She and our whole family continued to make many of these dishes for the rest of their lives.
Nuttonbutton@reddit
Poor man's meal actually slaps btw
fir_meit@reddit
That looks delicious.
blaspheminCapn@reddit
Not... currently.
Iforgotmypwrd@reddit
Haha been thinking that all of them will be that way in a year at this pace.
I do think of speakeasies for venues of that era. The hidden door experiences are quite fun.
bmadisonthrowaway@reddit
Not as such, but starting about 15 years ago there was a trendy restaurant aesthetic that amounted to the same thing. Military surplus metal chairs, barstools made out of old tractor seats, bare Edison bulbs for lighting. Food served on a piece of wood.
None of these restaurants served classic Depression era fare, but it was the era of "farm to table" (which hearkens back to a pre-WW2 period of small family farms and comfort food) and bourbon-forward cocktail menus. So more of a nostalgic homage to the Depression than literally serving mock apple pie and coffee with chicory.
Speaking of which, I saw chicory being sold as an "herbal tea" at Trader Joe's recently. So we might all be eating at "Great Depression themed restaurants" every night, soon. As in, our own kitchens stocked with ersatz poverty food.
Potential_Being_7226@reddit
You might be surprised to learn that those old tractor seats are actually pretty comfy; more so than typical barstools.
Alexexy@reddit
Cafe Du Monde is a really famous coffee spot in New Orleans that serves chicory coffee. The origin of the drink was when the Union blockaded the Confederacy and the South couldn't get coffee beans.
bmadisonthrowaway@reddit
This is actually not true. Or, I suppose it's true-ish on some level (honestly I have no idea whether New Orleans could get coffee during the Civil War). But that's not why chicory coffee is served there or associated with Louisiana.
In Southern Louisiana, before the Federal Highway Program and to an extent also before the various New Deal rural development projects, most people lived deep in inaccessible rural areas that were not within an easy drive or walk of a town that would have bulk dry goods like flour, sugar, coffee, tea, etc. People got around mostly by canoe, and town was a place you went a couple times a year, not daily or even weekly. And you had to think carefully about the weight of what you were loading into your canoe to take home. In those conditions, bulky imported items like coffee were a luxury. Most families would supplement the coffee they had with chicory root to stretch it out between trips into town.
Chicory coffee is what my grandparents' generation grew up on, and was pretty widely available in southern Louisiana grocery stores up into the 90s or 2000s, at least. I think it was mostly the arrival of Starbucks that did it in. The reason it is served at Cafe du Monde today is for that reason, nothing to do with the Civil War.
strangerNstrangeland@reddit
I love Cafe du Monde coffee. Have it shipped to yankee territory
physical-vapor@reddit
I juat googled and read the wiki, and it legit says "In the U.S., chicory root has long been used as a coffee substitute in prisons.[68] By the 1840s, the port of New Orleans was the second-largest importer of coffee (after New York).[66] Louisianans began to add chicory root to their coffee when Union naval blockades during the American Civil War cut off the port of New Orleans, thereby creating a long-standing tradition." Lol
bmadisonthrowaway@reddit
Right, I'm not saying that it's inaccurate that New Orleanians couldn't get coffee during the Civil War.
I'm saying that the Civil War has nothing to do with why Cafe du Monde, a coffee shop that exists in the year 2025, serves chicory coffee.
It's not a "longstanding tradition" to drink chicory coffee because of a thing that happened over the course of several months, 164 years ago. It has a lot more to do with supply chains and population and consumer dynamics of the pre-industrialized South.
Cafe du Monde talks about the Civil War of it all because they know that most of their customers are tourists who want to hear stories about parts of American History they've heard of, not a lecture about how bridges built by the WPA 90 years ago enabled the rise of the automobile throughout Louisiana, thus changing the availability of certain commodity foodstuffs.
physical-vapor@reddit
Wikipedia disagrees with you. Good luck though, long winded replies and all
bmadisonthrowaway@reddit
Wikipedia disagrees with what multiple generations of my family taught me about our own heritage? Oh no! Whatever will I do with myself now?
physical-vapor@reddit
Idk, but I'm probably not the best person to ask seeing as I don't know you. I'm sure you have close friends and lived ones who can help you
Alexexy@reddit
From what I've read and what the local tour guides said, chicory coffee likely pre dated the Civil War, but it became more popular due to the blockade.
https://nolafoodandbeverage.com/chicory-coffee-in-new-orleans/#:~:text=During%20the%20Civil%20war%20when,easily%20grown%20in%20the%20wild.
physical-vapor@reddit
Just fyi. I looked up the wiki here's what it said. "In the U.S., chicory root has long been used as a coffee substitute in prisons.[68] By the 1840s, the port of New Orleans was the second-largest importer of coffee (after New York).[66] Louisianans began to add chicory root to their coffee when Union naval blockades during the American Civil War cut off the port of New Orleans, thereby creating a long-standing tradition." So that dude below you is wrong, or wiki is
PavicaMalic@reddit
For people interested in this debate, Suzanne Stone wrote a book a decade ago on the topic, "New Orleans Coffee: A Rich Tradition." The first coffee vendor in New Orleans was Rose Nicaud.
https://www.crescentcityjewishnews.com/suzanne-stone-brews-up-new-orleans-coffee-history/
drink-beer-and-fight@reddit
My kitchen
Potential_Being_7226@reddit
People starved during the Great Depression.
https://opened.cuny.edu/courseware/lesson/439/student/?section=2
The “new dishes” were a means of survival, not a culinary advancement.
This is insensitive and obtuse.
BeezerBrom@reddit
I find Taco Bell at 2 am greatly depressing
Altrano@reddit
No one wants to eat that stuff unless they’re actually desperate. The only place I think it would belong would be an interactive exhibit at a living history museum.
Eleanore Roosevelt used to serve the same fare they expected people to eat during the Depression at White House dinners. While I respect the energy; the food was notoriously bad at the White House during this period.
Dylan Hollis has done several recipes including Econo Meatloaf,, Hoover Stew, and Water Pie were among the worst. Others (mostly desserts) were decent.
Dazzling-Astronaut88@reddit
There’s a place in East TN that still serves Vinegar Pies…. Because they didn’t have any sugar. From why I recall, They must be an acquired taste.
Flavaflavius@reddit
That's like asking if there's potato famine themed pubs in Ireland lol.
In short, no. The things people were eating weren't exactly good, and even if they were it's not exactly a positive historical event.
ReactionAble7945@reddit
While I think there would be an interest in understanding, and I would love to be able to make cheap, good food.
I think most of the meals are less than great.
sfdsquid@reddit
Pretty soon you'll be able to experience depression era food at home.
Designer-Carpenter88@reddit
Why would you want to eat the food of a starving people?
ronshasta@reddit
People have tried to forget those times and the food they had to eat is not something you’d be excited to eat just saying
alexthe5th@reddit
I’ve never heard of such a concept, and I don’t think it would be very popular.
There are some time periods in American history that people want to relive through food and drink and you’ll find many themed restaurants (think a 1920s speakeasy with Prohibition-era cocktails and hot jazz, or a 1950s diner with burgers and rock & roll music on jukeboxes)… but the Depression? It was a bad time in American history, people were bankrupted, starving, and lining up at soup kitchens.
With that said, there are certainly interesting “poverty foods” that were created during that era. I think people would be more interested in trying to make them at home out of historical interest, rather than going to a restaurant for a full meal.
Bright_Ices@reddit
The Herbert Hoover Presidential Library doesn’t even offer food. That’s how bad it was during Hoover’s presidency.
Rich-Hovercraft-65@reddit
Do most of the Presidential libraries offer food? I've only been to one (Woodrow Wilson) and it didn't either.
AnotherInLimbo@reddit
I don't know about the others, but the elderly guy working the fryers at the McDonald's inside the Trump Presidential Library is surprisingly really enthusiastic about it.
Bright_Ices@reddit
If you look at the website for the museum, it looks actually interesting. Like a museum of dt’s biggest failures. I don’t know who funded it, but it wasn’t him.
Bright_Ices@reddit
Some do, some don’t. JFK, Reagan, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, and Drumpf libraries do. Most or all of the other 10 presidential libraries don’t.
Romaine2k@reddit
I picture that last one as a row of portapotties containing old issues of Us magazine and special interest porn.
Bright_Ices@reddit
I haven’t been, but from the info online, it’s an interesting library museum. Definitely not dt approved https://djtrumplibrary.com/
a22x2@reddit
The Clinton one definitely does lol
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
Is there a room of naked pictures? There has to be.
mckmaus@reddit
I think he had planned to live there and put in a kitchen. I feel like that's something I remember.
kingchik@reddit
I’ve only been to a couple, but LBJ’s didn’t and I don’t think JFK’s did, either. They may have had like a snack bar sort of offering, but there’s certainly no themed restaurants.
If there were, I’d want both to be space themed.
Bright_Ices@reddit
JFK’s has a cafe that sells lunch fare from 10am-3pm. LBJ’s doesn’t serve any food.
Darryl_Lict@reddit
Waiting for the Hooverville Trumptowns.
eapaul80@reddit
Yeah come to my apartment, I eat tuna fish and pbjs a lot. It’s pretty depressing
PrincessDrywall@reddit
Every restaurant is going to be Great Depression themed soon
MeeMaul@reddit
I mean Dooky Chase in NOLA was a sandwich shop that sold lotto tickets in the 30’s and is now a historical landmark restaurant. 10/10 recommend.
Loquaciouslow@reddit
Would you go to a restaurant that has the food availability of WW2? No. Nobody in their right mind chooses to eat poverty food.
Cant-Take-Jokes@reddit
No, since it wasn’t a good time in history and many people don’t want to celebrate it, any restaurant like that would surely fail. But there are some cook books from the era and lots of recipes online.
UnattributableSpoon@reddit
I have one of my great grandmother's recipe cards and they include a LOT of depression-era recipes. There are quite a few that are surprisingly tasty and several that are plain horrifying, lol.
Fantastic-Bit7657@reddit
Pretty soon all the restaurants are going to be great-depression themed…
Life-Ad1409@reddit
No, it's a fairly dark part of our history that we don't really celebrate that much. Additionally not much art or food came from that decade that would be recognizable
0fficial_TidE_@reddit
No but they do have Prohibition themed bars
Pendurag@reddit
That sounds like it would be a mockery of the suffering that people went through. My grandmother didn't have the means to make any of that, 15 yo, alone, homeless (like many others), and survived by eating out of the garbage and compost.
My greatest joy after becoming an adult (before my child was born), was cooking for her. Lemon Shrimp on the grill was her absolute favorite. And BBQ wings. Face covered in sauce is how I want to remember her, not struggling to survive.
Forward-Repeat-2507@reddit
Why would we want to celebrate extreme poverty?
MewMewTranslator@reddit
Lol what??? 🤣
babyhazuki@reddit
The only people I know who grew up or lived in that time would definitely not want a reminder of what they went through 😬
Visible-Shop-1061@reddit
Cracker Barrel
Yeegis@reddit
I mean you can just go to a hole in the wall grease hole diner
xSparkShark@reddit
Uhhhhh, my grandpa grew up in the Great Depression and he was more willing to talk about his service in WW2 than the depression. It wasn’t a time anyone wants to remember.
bitchcommaplease@reddit
literally none of those foods you suggest for the menu sound appetizing. they sound like depression-era meals, which tracks i guess, but ... I'm just puzzled by the question.
maybe ask about Ireland and potato-famine-themed restaurants next?
Concentrateman@reddit
How old are you?
Gold_Telephone_7192@reddit
No, restaurants usually try to not serve food that doesn’t taste good
lfxlPassionz@reddit
Speakeasies are from this time period and there are plenty of restaurants themed that way
iHasMagyk@reddit
I dunno, Panera’s been pretty successful
WulfTheSaxon@reddit
Panera got successful because it was really good at first.
apricot-butternuts@reddit
I miss good Panera
Darkest_Brandon@reddit
This is true, but that was a long time ago.
lfxlPassionz@reddit
There are restaurants themed around that time but they are mainly focused on prohibition and the speakeasies that came from prohibition. Many are Italian/American foods because of Al Capone. He was the crime head in Chicago at this time but was known to have hideouts all over the place. Where I live it's suspected he has hideouts around here partially because we are in Michigan and it's conveniently on the same lake with a history of ferries that go between Chicago and here (Muskegon MI).
Lots of speakeasies are around actually but they generally have better food than they would have had during that time.
However many families still eat these kinds of struggle meals at home and right now we are facing some really hard times that are expected to be as bad as this time period so these recipes are resurfacing.
I would check out Emmymade on YouTube if you are interested in learning these recipes. She loves to cover hard times recipes.
dj4slugs@reddit
There is a pharmacy about 20 miles dmfrom me that has a classic Soda Fountain with stools and will make you a root beer float.
dyingbreed6009@reddit
There is a closed down taco bell in my town that's been abandoned for like 20 years... 😂
ubutterscotchpine@reddit
Not at all lol, but I’m sure there will be some Great Depression restaurants making a comeback soon.
rdldr1@reddit
I hear the depression will be even greater.
SwimmingWarthog8796@reddit
A Greatest Depression, that men will tremble to look upon.
rdldr1@reddit
I’m trembling now.
Gallahadion@reddit
People will come up to me with tears in their eyes saying, "thank you, sir, for the bigliest depression ever."
LexiNovember@reddit
“Sir, I want you to know, you’re the best at creating great depressions the world has ever seen. In all my time I’ve never seen anyone better.”
iknowyouneedahugRN@reddit
It's gonna be youuuge (pronounced phonetically)! Everybody is going to remember the greatest depression! MAGDG: Make American Great Depression Greater!
cerealandcorgies@reddit
the Greatest Depression, like the World has Never Seen
HugeLocation9383@reddit
Bigly
thoughtsome@reddit
It's such an old-fashioned term but a beautiful term: great depression. It sort of says an economy with nothing in it.
300sunshineydays@reddit
The Best Depression!
No-Diet-4797@reddit
I don't know about restaurants but there's nothing great about my depression.
ConnorSteffey112@reddit
Probably not
Express-Stop7830@reddit
Angry upvote.
Chank-a-chank1795@reddit
You wanna eat possum and hard tack
giggity_0_0@reddit
Yeah right next to the holocaust restaurant which shares a wall with the Irish potato famine cafe. What a dumbass. Look at OPs post history he’s an Indian troll
Sparkle_Rott@reddit
We still have one Hard Times Cafe location left. They serve chili
AllSoulsNight@reddit
Come to my house, and I'll make you some pinto beans, turnip greens, and cornbread. My folks favorite, and they cooked that on the regular way into the 1970s.
Fast-Penta@reddit
Are there Great Leap Forward themed restaurants in China?
WillDupage@reddit
As a grandchild of people who were young adults during the Great Depression, i had the food. There is nothing to be nostalgic about. My mother’s mother in particular would probably find the idea utterly offensive. (She tended towards being offended by most things, so that may not be a great yardstick…)
AZJHawk@reddit
Yeah. My grandma used to tell stories about growing up in the Depression and raising rabbits for food. It sounded pretty bleak. I don’t think any restaurant selling the shit they used to eat would be around for very long.
WillDupage@reddit
Grandma’s father lost his business and the house she grew up in by 1932. She spent her sweet sixteen huddled under a blanket with her sister because they couldn’t afford heat for the apartment. Bleak would have been an improvement.
UnfairHoneydew6690@reddit
My grandma’s family were dirt poor hillbillies who had no money for basic necessities like medicine for their children, so a number of her siblings died during the depression.
Not really a fun nostalgia trip for me.
sysaphiswaits@reddit
Maybe a very depressing bar, but no one is trying for that theme.
yogafitter@reddit
I doubt it. I think this would be akin to a bubonic plague themed bar in Europe.
Slkreger@reddit
Not the actually food, but I bet decor would resemble the interior design of a Cracker Barrel.
InternistNotAnIntern@reddit
Cracker Barrel
TheOtherElbieKay@reddit
Count me out
bexstro@reddit
"What's next? The Andes Plane Crash Cookbook?" If you know what that's from you are probably just as weird an 80s child as me.
MizzGee@reddit
There are certainly recipes, but not restaurants. Certain cuisines also focus on cheap ingredients and have roots in poverty. Many Appalachian, soul food, Midwestern and Southern favorites are made with very inexpensive ingredients and from scraps, less desirable vegetables etc.
Automatic_Syrup_2935@reddit
This is a brilliant idea and I need someone to create one asap
barbiegirl2381@reddit
A dress rehearsal, if you will.
Automatic_Syrup_2935@reddit
Lmao yes. It was a joke! Too soon I guess.
Important-Ad-1499@reddit
I recently learned about candle salad which was created around this time period too lol
Noktomezo175@reddit
I guess we can bring back rabbit starvation and boiled onions.
CalmRip@reddit
There are still a few chili parlors (Google them)to be found. Chili—an Americanized version of various Mexican chiles, pungently flavored stewed meats—became very popular in the Great Depression because it was flavorful, cheap and filling. It was usually beans, maybe some scrap meat, tomatoes, onions and chili powder, served with saltines crackers.
VineStGuy@reddit
there was a pie place in my city that use to make vinegar pie, a depression-era cheap version of a citrus pie. It was so good. I know make it at home.
MamooMagoo@reddit
I just finished a fiction book about the Great Depression. One hot dog split between three diners would be a hard sell.
Apprehensive_Glove_1@reddit
An astonishing amount of modern cultural cuisine was borne from the struggle of poverty. As for depression era, yeah Cracker Barrell might be a good choice. I mean... we're talking meatloaf, potato soup, SOS, basic spaghetti, a lot of casseroles, eggs for any meal (as mentioned elsewhere)...
Not to mention Soul Food as a whole in the US...
aikidharm@reddit
Just wait a little longer and there will be.
shessocold1969@reddit
If you call a Salvation Army soup kitchen a restaurant, then yes.
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
lol..."Great Depression themed restaurants"?? Yeah that would be a great business model.
DJGRIFFSTAR@reddit
You could try your local soup kitchen, would be pretty similar
Cosmic-Ape-808@reddit
Many. Thanks to John from Bar Rescue. Tired
acer-bic@reddit
My mother lived through the Depression and learned to cook them so I grew up eating like that. Believe me, you don’t want to go there.
wizzardofboz@reddit
Yes- Hard Times Cafe, it's a chili joint in the greater DC area. They've closed a lot of locations in the last decade.
Cosmic-Ape-808@reddit
Yes it was called House of Blues not around no mo’
Snarky75@reddit
If I want bread and water I will eat at home.
Fact_Stater@reddit
I want to say a hot dog stand in Chicago is technically the closest. Chicago hot dogs and Italian beef are their staples, and those were both invented during the Depression. But they're not actually themed in such a way.
Blue387@reddit
In 1933 Philadelphia, the brothers Pat and Harry Olivieri put some steak on a grill and put it between a roll. Later they added cheese. This was the first cheesesteak.
Fact_Stater@reddit
An Italian beef is something different
BookLuvr7@reddit
Depression era recipes live up to their depressing name. They were what people ate when they didn't have other options. A restaurant like that might be a fun experiment for one night, but they'd have an impossible time staying open.
Subterranean44@reddit
People also ate boiled tumbleweeds during the dust bowl and gooey slop from boiled shoe leather during the donner-reed party. These and the Great Depression and generally not celebrated eras. I bet you could find some recipes online if you’re really interested.
NewLawGuy24@reddit
A restaurant serving not delicious food.
LexiNovember@reddit
Everyone is still a bit… touchy… about that period, and I don’t think it would thrive as a marketable idea in general because if you’ve ever tried most of those meals they’re not particularly tasty.
However you can find a lot of the recipes that were actually both very cheap and delicious still embedded in American menus to this day, and can also find lots of cookbooks and online cooking channels that feature the recipes so you can try them out at home.
Zama202@reddit
Seemed restaurants were much more popular than 1980s in 1990s and there are today. I’ve certainly never heard of a themed restaurant about the Great Depression, but I would suspect that if there ever were any, it would have closed by now.
DistanceRelevant3899@reddit
Applebees is the closest I can think of.
Andrewofredstone@reddit
all of them, soon enough 🥲
_Internet_Hugs_@reddit
Lots of food was invented, but very little of it was good. It was the kind of food people would eat to survive, not the kind of stuff anybody requested.
I've eaten some of the foods out of curiosity and none have made it into regular rotation.
wildtech@reddit
Can't imagine liver & onions going over with anyone under 80.
Wild-Strategy-4101@reddit
I'm 69 and have loved liver and onions since I was a kid. When my son-in-law butchers a cow, I get the liver! Good stuff!
germanspacetime@reddit
Hey now, my dad just turned 70 and he loves them 🤣
abbot_x@reddit
I loved this when I was a kid in the early 1980s. I can’t imagine eating it now.
HonoluluLongBeach@reddit
I’m 57 and I love liver and onions!
Relevant_Elevator190@reddit
I love liver and onions. Also not 80.
Setsailshipwreck@reddit
What? I’m 37 and I love liver and onions
DryFoundation2323@reddit
I'm under 80 and I like it.
sas223@reddit
That’s nonsense. My dad loved liver and onions. If he were still alive he’d be 75.
CorneliusSoctifo@reddit
BankManager69420@reddit
To be fair, out of all the stereotypical Great Depression foods, this is the only dish I’ve actually seen on restaurant menus before.
philplant@reddit
I don't think this is that crazy, maybe its a tad insensitive but weirder things exist, and OP is right that it's definitely its own culinary period. I think it could be done with sensitivity
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
You can always visit a waffle house in Atlanta at 3 AM if you want to see some great depression.
Luciferonvacation@reddit
Patience young grasshopper. You may still get your chance sometime soon.
Sloth_grl@reddit
I know there are lots of great recipes. There are plenty of cookbooks. I’ve never heard if a depression themed restaurant though
Communal-Lipstick@reddit
Lol, no.
TheDwarvenGuy@reddit
There are old-timey themed restaurants like Cracker Barrel but not Great Depression themed.
fashlatebloomer@reddit
One food- Oklahoma onion burgers come to mind. I’ve had them in restaurants in Oklahoma, Kansas and Indiana.
SavannahInChicago@reddit
There is a nostalgia cycle that usually leads to this. But the decades usually included in this are usually a bit more stable. Like how the 50s theme diner is a thing? The 50s were not perfect, but it was stable enough that kids who grew up in it would have those diner’s marketed to them. This was not true of the Great Depression. A lot of families struggled. It affected everyone, even kids. So you don’t really have that marketability because who wants to relive a childhood of poverty and insecurity.
jhkayejr@reddit
Give it a couple weeks
TheRandomestWonderer@reddit
My grandfather remembered watching a family of seven chase a rabbit through a field. People were starving. It’s not a time people want to remember..
Spud8000@reddit
do not know of a "depression themed" restaurant.
but there are restaurants that serve "common foods", like Offal, garbage plates (a mix of whatever is left over from the day before), and traditional local fare.
okeverythingsok@reddit
Some old restaurants in the upper Midwest / rust belt still serve a depression-era meal called “city chicken” which can mean a few things, but by where I’m from it’s cubed pork, breaded on a skewer. Love it.
thereBheck2pay@reddit
I have a 1915 cookbook with a recipe for City Chicken, which is pork. Apparently chicken was expensive and rare in the cites, and if you didn't have a country cousin who would share his chickens with you, pork it was!
Drslappybags@reddit
Things made during that time might sound interesting but it's not going to be something you want to eat unless you have to.
Look up B. Dylan Hollis on YouTube. He bakes from old cookbooks and has covered a few depression era foods.
frankfromsales@reddit
They still have soup kitchen lines. I think they call them homeless shelters.
Mental_Internal539@reddit
Never thought about it, might have something going here.
Highlifetallboy@reddit
People literally starved to death during the Great Depression. Why would you theme a restaurant around that? I am baffled by this question. Anyways, off to the Holodormor themed pickle ball court!
alltheblues@reddit
“These dishes may not necessarily be delicious”
Buddy I think that’s the answer to is someone attempting to sell them for money in a free market.
OldCompany50@reddit
Next one coming up real soon, trumpdepression
We’ll see how many restaurants survive
boodyclap@reddit
Give it a year or 2
Heuristicrat@reddit
The Great Depression was a massive collective trauma shared by over 100 million people. I don't think very many people want it enshrined in a restaurant.
MaleficentMousse7473@reddit
I think all the true Great Depression restaurants are the closed, crumbling ones in ghost towns.
I like your idea though, OP! Those thrifty foods can actually be really tasty. I love biscuits and tomato gravy
dystopiadattopia@reddit
There's one in every Cup O' Noodles
Picklesadog@reddit
Sure, there is one in my town right next to an Antebellum themed restaurant owned by a nice African American family.
ExhaustedPoopcycle@reddit
Not a bad idea, though make it edible of course!
Otherwise-OhWell@reddit
Burger King
nwbrown@reddit
That sounds disgusting.
SunShine365-@reddit
Not much nostalgia for recipes that were created to ward off actual starvation
Trick-Property-5807@reddit
I have a feeling something like that wouldn’t last given the inherent grossness of creating a restaurant that essentially tries to capitalize on widespread poverty. It’d be kind of like doing a themed restaurant in Europe based on dishes invented because of rationing during WWII
kibbeuneom@reddit
There's some speakeasys. That's a bit before then I guess
CattleDowntown938@reddit
Yes it took me a bit to think of it. But Chicago’s vienna beef hot dog stands. The Chicago dog was a Great Depression era invention and you can still get them.
kingchik@reddit
You’re partially right, the Chicago Dog was a Great Depression invention, but hot dog joints in Chicago (we don’t have ‘stands’ like in NYC) are in no way themed like the Great Depression.
I bet if you asked 1000 people who live here, you may get 10 who even know that’s their origin.
Most of the hot dog joints are, I would say, kitsch Chicago memorabilia themed.
CattleDowntown938@reddit
I corrected my lingo while I am in the area and lived in Chicago briefly I’m not from here. The op asked about dishes invented in the era too. So I do think it kind of fits. Just because it’s forgotten history doesn’t mean it’s not a theme.
kingchik@reddit
He didn’t ask for other depression era foods, he just asked about theme restaurants. Twice.
And just because something was invented in a certain era doesn’t make places that serve them themed to that era. I can’t think of a single example of a food that is themed by default to an era - burger places aren’t ‘1880s themed’, are they?
kingchik@reddit
He didn’t ask for other depression era foods, he just asked about theme restaurants. Twice.
And just because something was invented in a certain era doesn’t make places that serve them themed to that era. I can’t think of a single example of a food that is themed by default to an era - burger places aren’t ‘1880s themed’, are they?
TipsyBaker_@reddit
Give it a minute and it will be the standard
xRVAx@reddit
That's a hilarious and inspiring idea. I've never heard of such a thing.
LocaCapone@reddit
Lmao what type of dark tourism is this
Gordita_Chele@reddit
It’s funny… I don’t think of dandelion salad as a specifically Depression-era food. I associate it more with hippies and health food stores/restaurants.
DuplicateJester@reddit
Now it's kind of a luxury if you have a space where you can pick organic dandelion greens that haven't been peed on by dogs. During the Depression, you did it so that you had some extra greens and filler in your diet that were free or cheap.
Dandelion tea is good for your liver though.
ConsistentCoyote3786@reddit
Any Waffle House in middle America
Select_Total_257@reddit
Go get an onion burger in Oklahoma. During the depression meat was too expensive so in Oklahoma they made burger patties out of ground up grilled onions.
Shelter1971@reddit
In these times if someone opened a themed restaurant like this they would charge an astronomical amount of money for each dish and thus deserve - Bad things.
voteblue18@reddit
Well that doesn’t sound like fun at all. I give you credit for thinking outside the box.
Strangerin907@reddit
This is a terrible idea.
GreenCity5@reddit
There’s a small chain in the DC suburbs called Hard Times Cafe. They have fantastic chili. It’s definitely worth checking out.
kingchik@reddit
The foods you’re describing were all ways of keeping people from starving to death by either figuring out ways to make a little bit stretch or eat things that aren’t traditionally food.
No, no one has made a restaurant trying to sell those foods in a themed atmosphere. At least no one that was successful.
CasanovaF@reddit
Britt Iowa has a National Hobo convention festival on August 7th. They actually have been around longer than the depression, but might have similar foods. I have always wanted to go. Might do it this year.
You might find similar local things like this that aren't restaurants but have depression era food. Other idea might be history museums that recreate times past
FenisDembo82@reddit
International House of Dirt Pancakes
Crowsfeet12@reddit
You might want to read “The Grapes of Wrath” by Steinbeck. Also, there’s a cool series on HBO called Carnivale from about 30 years ago that was fantastic. Great Depression Era supernatural themed show.
Food- look up chipped beef ontoast or Shit on a shingle (SOS).
sswihart@reddit
Wait long enough, and that’s all there will be.
Any_Razzmatazz9926@reddit
Amish themed restaurants offer foods that approximate the simplicity and frugality of the era. The Great Depression has zero nostalgia to folks here in the US.
SquidsArePeople2@reddit
A lot of people at rats. You want to eat rats?
mustang6172@reddit
John Spartan eats rats.
NotSoEpicPanda@reddit
I feel like the only place this could work is in Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg
MothraKnowsBest@reddit
I live near this area (Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge. There are actually plenty of little small town diners in this region that serve stuff like “vinegar pie” and other recipes that came about during the depression to use up commodities. Honestly, lots of us around here still willingly eat and enjoy what many would consider “poor people food” (lots of dried beans, cornbread, collard greens, salmon patties, etc.). It’s what our parents grew up eating and thus learned to cook themselves. But we can hop in the car and go buy more…simply impossible back in the day.
us287@reddit
true lol. it’d fit right in.
LaeneSeraph@reddit
I think all the answers so far have been "No, that would be dumb."
I present to you: https://www.hardtimes.com/about-us/
sorrymizzjackson@reddit
Fascinating. Being from Cincinnati, that seems pretty familiar and now I really want to try the spicy version.
InsertRadnamehere@reddit
Hardees
Pernicious_Possum@reddit
That’s like asking if Europe has black plague themed restaurants. Who tf wants to eat at place like that? What tf would they even serve? Boiled shoe leather? People were selling their children ffs. You don’t commemorate shit like that
OldBanjoFrog@reddit
Stage Door Cantine here in New Orleans is part of the WWII Museum and has a ‘40’s themed setting. Not sure about the Depression
Bigstar976@reddit
What a strange request. lol if I had to bet, I’d say no.
darksideofthemoon131@reddit
Yes. Go down behind the nicest restaurant, pull up a milk crate and wait for the trash to get dumped.
In New York it's 200 a plate.
Additional-Studio-72@reddit
All of them soon…
AcousticOnomatopoeia@reddit
Prolly not much of a market for peanut butter mayonnaise sandwiches.
CantHostCantTravel@reddit
Yes, many. Most cities will have at least one homeless shelter that serves food.
Silt-Sifter@reddit
The book and film Fried Green Tomatoes was set during the Great Depression, and is said to have been inspired by the Wildflower Cafe in Mentone, Alabama. Id check it out. It's probably as close as you'll get to something with that "theme."
kitchengardengal@reddit
I love that restaurant. Good food and such a cute town.
BLUECAT1011@reddit
My mom grew up during the Depression, she said the family lived on a giant bag of pinto beans one winter so she never ate them again. They also speared fish from the creek, caught rabbits, amd raised and killed their own chickens to survive (her job as a 10 year old was to wring the chickens necks). Not a nostalgic time but one you were glad to survive.
Wolf_E_13@reddit
No...but I'm sure there are bread lines or soup lines somewhere.
Subziwallah@reddit
Well, we have modern versions of Hoovervilles, now called tent cities.
KeepOnRising19@reddit
My grandparents were kids during the depression. Nobody wants to remember that time, especially the food, or lack thereof.
Skweege55@reddit
Is there an ask in IrishAnIrishperson sub and have you asked if they have any potato famine-themed restaurants?
Gallahadion@reddit
There's a Middle Eastern market in my hometown that serves Dandelion greens. They're delicious and I hope to buy some every time I go there, but that's the closest I want to get to Depression-era foods.
4011isbananas@reddit
No but there are a lot of Prohibition Era themed bars
KJHagen@reddit
I hunted rabbits and squirrels on my grandparents and great uncle’s property as a kid. My grandmother would turn those into delicious squirrel, rabbit, and dumplings meals. My grandparents lived on that during the Great Depression. It was good, but I can’t imagine a restaurant serving it.
richbiatches@reddit
No, that would be depressing.
Yes_Leeks@reddit
The squirrels here HAVE been getting really uppity lately. Maybe it’s time to take them down a peg.
Rogue_Cheeks98@reddit
need to go to the UK for that
Esmer_Tina@reddit
There are cookbooks, and poverty cosplayers on YouTube who recreate the recipes. But restaurants? No. However the speakeasy is a common theme for bars and clubs.
meanteeth71@reddit
Dandelion salad, Dandelion greens and Dandelion wine were all a part of my childhood.
Mock Apple Pie was actually served often in my HS (84-88) cafeteria. I don't know why.
RodeoBoss66@reddit
I would love a fried baloney and gubmint cheese sammich, some Spam & mayo aspic salad, along with some Kool-Aid and a couple Mr. Goodbars.
OkTruth5388@reddit
That would be a strange theme for a restaurant to have.
Blue387@reddit
I went to an event a few years ago at the Tenement Museum promoting the book A Square Meal: A Culinary History of the Great Depression. They had a few samples of food from that era. While it was free, it was not very good or appetizing.
ImpossiblyTiring@reddit
Pretty sure the whole country is about to be Great Depression themed if you give us another 4-6 months.
krebstorm@reddit
Yeah. It is right next to the Auschwitz Cafe.
Thanks for providing the stupidest shit I read today.
No one wants to eat poverty meals. And no one should glamorize them.
Danibear285@reddit
Might as well open a Chinese restaurant based on the Great Leap Forward famine.
Most people don’t want to remember times that were hard in this country. looks around
keIIzzz@reddit
Never heard of one
BreakfastBeerz@reddit
I believe those are called "Soup Kitchens".
Clarknt67@reddit
No. If you want that vibe maybe the closest you will find are Railcar diners which are common in Long Island NY and New Jersey.
Asparagus9000@reddit
Would not make a good restaurant.
Could maybe be interesting as a part of a cafe in museum.
Like you get a sample of some of that depression food with your order.
And they make sure it's actually still bad instead of spicing it up.
FivebyFive@reddit
There was a popup restaurant attached to the National Archives in D.C. for awhile.
They had themed foods from the entire length of American history, from pre-United states to recent history.
I can't remember specific depression-era fare but I'm sure they had it.
I don't know of any other restaurants though sadly.
BUT, there are plenty of depression era recipes out there. Try some at home!
Here's my favorite!
https://youtu.be/4s4PjOyujn8?si=34r5uWk-qQ2_K2x2
shockhead@reddit
I don't think "suffer with us" is great marketing. Those were foods of struggle. Unless someone wants to get real Jesuit with it, I don't think you're gonna see this.
FunImprovement166@reddit
Believe it or not, no one has opened a restaurant with the intention of serving bad food intentionally. We didn't get this fat eating depression era food.
alwaysboopthesnoot@reddit
Let’s see. 1929-1940? Diners. Truck stops. Soda fountains. Soup kitchens. Those are all still around.
Phony speakeasy and Jazz bar places? Piano bars? Yes. They’re theme bars for tourists, usually. Mere glitzy, superficial shells of what they were really like back in the day.
But as for glorying in those days or restaurants featuring depression era recipes? I don’t think so. Why would they?
WealthOk9637@reddit
Lol that’s an insane idea. I like it. Nobody would go lol.
The closest thing I can think of to this is the Tenement Museum in NYC has food “experiences”. So, they have one tenement house that is a 1930s depression family, but don’t have a food tour for that one. But you can go pay a lot of money to go eat 1800s style poor ppl food if you wish.
They’re a great museum/organization, but their prices are pretty whack. The food tour does not appeal to me at all.
KN0TTYP1NE@reddit
Flour, fat and any type of meat.
Perkins
CuriousCali@reddit
Share 1 cup of soaked oats between a family of 4 heated over a fire in trash can out on the street.
Nodeal_reddit@reddit
Cracker Barrel. lol
Party_Supermarket_88@reddit
They’ll all be Great Depression restaurants in about 8-10 months.
loglady420@reddit
I mean, a lot of diners in the heartland feel that way.
paranoid_70@reddit
Now that is a question I never expected to be asked.
Short answer... no.
revengeappendage@reddit
Like…restaurants are businesses. And businesses exist to make money. Nobody is going to go out to eat food that isn’t good lol.
AKA-Pseudonym@reddit
There's a small chain of restaurants in Virginia called Hard Times Cafe that's sort-of Depression themed. I only ate at the Arlington location once and the Depression themed didn't really jump out at me. They specialize in chili mostly, which I guess is kind of Depressiony.
DanceClubCrickets@reddit
"These dishes may not necessarily be delicious--" there's your answer for why this isn't a thing lmao. Sounds like it would be an interesting museum exhibit, but a horrendous restaurant.
GrayRainfall@reddit (OP)
That’s true — if a restaurant like that opened, people might go once out of curiosity, but they probably wouldn’t visit regularly.
inscrutiana@reddit
This is an interesting idea and very much aligned with the concept of degrowth and locavore foods. Interesting question. I've never encountered a menu specifically making reference to the period but there are a great many ways in which design or location can still indirectly or even unintentionally set the tone of mid to late 1930s.
Again, good question. This would probably be successful in the Eastern US catering strongly to German tourists, who seem to be really into vibe-dining.
Cheap_Coffee@reddit
Not directly addressing your question, but Teddie Peanut Butter was created as a cheap source of protein during the Great Depression.
Off1ceb0ss@reddit
Why would you make a depressing era restaurant? It’d be like you were trying to fail.
MrLongWalk@reddit
No, that would not be particularly appealing to the average diner.
Akito_900@reddit
It seems like something someone might do as a pop-up art installation in NYC
300sunshineydays@reddit
Coming soon to an American kitchen near you…your kitchen, as a matter of fact!
Rarewear_fan@reddit
St Augustine FL has a restaurant/bar called “Prohibition Kitchen” that sounds like it would be what you are looking for. They have live jazz music too when i visited once.
drh0tdog@reddit
At some places in Chicago we have a "depression dog," which is a pared down version of the classic Chicago hot dog.
Foconomo@reddit
It's called Applebee's bub, we're living it.
Any59oh@reddit
It wasn't explicitly Great Depression themed but I've been to such a restaurant. I don't recommend it. Don't know how it managed to stay open as long as it did and it closed about a year after I went
Hastur13@reddit
Can I can a side of dust with my shoe leather?
Own_Physics_7733@reddit
There are some speakeasy bars
crap_whats_not_taken@reddit
Idk the Cracker Barrel?
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
There’s a guy on YouTube that during Covid was working his way through a depression era cookbook, you might enjoy that.
tranquilrage73@reddit
As a special event, I think it would be cool.
But I don't think any restaurant could possibly subsist with a menu based solely on Drpression era foods.
Riccma02@reddit
Mock apple pie and shoe leather don’t draw back repeat customers.
Lovebeingadad54321@reddit
No, but I always thought it would be fun to do a depression era themed soup and sandwich restaurant, but serve upscale soup and sandwiches. Just Y f time depression era music and have pictures on the wall from The period.
Probably wouldn’t be able to compete with Panera though.
GrayRainfall@reddit (OP)
What you said makes a lot of sense👍👍👍 It would definitely be very interesting, but it might not be very profitable.
Thugnificent83@reddit
Not exactly an era we wax nostalgic for. The 30s just sucked in general as far as interesting periods in us history.
Though maybe cracker barrel?
Ceorl_Lounge@reddit
There are historically themed restaurants, but they're eras people actually want to remember. Best choice is making that stuff yourself. No lack of dandelions this time of year.
Flat-Product-119@reddit
Denny’s