Making fun of Hajji Armour in Iraq (pre-MRAP era)
Posted by kontemplador@reddit | shittytechnicals | View on Reddit | 50 comments

Posted by kontemplador@reddit | shittytechnicals | View on Reddit | 50 comments
mdb3301@reddit
Is this making fun of the US? I remember lots of controversy over inadequately armored humvees
SpecialExpert8946@reddit
I think so, but that meme can be recycled and used for Russia now too. Seen a lot of their vehicles looking similarly expediently armored lately.
Raguleader@reddit
As long as there have been vehicles in combat, there have been improvised efforts to make them more capable of dealing with the challenges they faced. Tanks in WWII would carry logs to be used to help get tanks unstuck when they got bogged down, some aircrews of US bombers would sit on their flak jackets or get armor plating installed in their seats or the floors under their stations because "they knew what they wanted to protect" (note: armor you sit or stand on is of limited use in a three-dimensional battlefield, but it does help your morale), British merchant Cruisers would carry loads of cork to make them harder to sink because they were not made to shrug off battle damage, crews of PBY Catalinas would make up for the flying boat's relative lack of armament by tossing mortar rounds and other man-portable explosives out of a hatch during harassment raids, etc.
Hell, just look at the evolution of the B-17 Flying Fortress from sleek Art Deco work of art to battle-hardened gunship, with three or four additional gun turrets and machine guns sticking out of random windows to improve their protection just a bit.
LtNOWIS@reddit
It's a US political cartoon. So it's less making fun of the US, and more trying to put pressure on the Bush administration to send up-armor kits and better vehicles.
sentinelthesalty@reddit
We call it Orkmaxxing. Unlike those mraps, it has soul.
Vadhakara@reddit
Yeah but the MRAP keeps your soul inside your body.
_BilbroSwaggins@reddit
Until it rolls over after taking a 30 degree turn at 10mph and kills everyone.
Raguleader@reddit
That's why I always drive at least 20mph through the turns.
sentinelthesalty@reddit
It can, it's nver a guarrantee. With IED's you don't know how much heat is packed in. If we gonna talk safety, then doing COIN is just asking to get ambushed.
Vadhakara@reddit
If we're going to be pedantic about safety then staying home keeps you safe from 100% of roadside bombs.
sentinelthesalty@reddit
Maybe not use a high intensity combat force for low intensity but large timscale coin op. They tried to the job of a gendarmerie style paramilitary with an expeditionary fighting force.
Careful_Curation@reddit
My M-ATV had soul. We named it Jar Jar.
sentinelthesalty@reddit
Did it randomly catch on fire or something?
Careful_Curation@reddit
Random electrical shorting and a long duck-like face.
Side_wiper@reddit
Weren't a lot of the humvees still painted green even by the time they went into Iraq? Other than that they didn't get their proper doors or up armouring for a while did they, because they were originally intended to do recon and not be the main workhorse utility vehicle for some reason
dikmite@reddit
They where made to be a farm workhorse, what the troops needed was a drafthorse with armor plating
readywater@reddit
Horse armor
DarthCloakedGuy@reddit
they didn't buy the DLC
Deadmemeusername@reddit
Rummy and Co were too cheap.
B-lakeJ@reddit
Why did you need to mention this? It still infuriates me to this day!
Vadhakara@reddit
They just did it again. The Oblivion remake released alongside a fucking day 1 DLC that includes exclusive horse armor.
B-lakeJ@reddit
Does ist qualify as a meme at this point?
Vadhakara@reddit
I think it qualifies as disgusting myself.
B-lakeJ@reddit
Without a doubt.
readywater@reddit
Baskin Robbin’s at Bagram Commissary selling horse armor.
Electrical-Camel-420@reddit
By the time I deployed the first time they were desert tan (2007)…. Also had considerable armor that saved some lives. Biggest problem we had were some newly designed shape charges that turned an inverted copper cone or bowl into molten lava that could even pass through an Abram’s tank armor… EFP I think was the fun acronym?
Kid_Vid@reddit
The troops had woodland camo for a long time in the beginning before they finally got sent desert camo.
BLAZIN_TACO@reddit
coffee stain combats with the woodland vest, classic combo
Plump_Apparatus@reddit
The HMMWV was designed to be the "workhorse" of the Army, the same as the what the Willys Jeep became. As in non-combat use behind the frontline. But the Second Iraq War quickly became a war of occupation, against insurgents and IEDs.
Hence the up armor kits quickly followed by the much heavier duty M1113 ECV series of HMMWVs that nearly doubled the gross weight of the vehicle. Still didn't really solve the IED issue as the vehicle lacked a V-shaped hull
IronWarhorses@reddit
Second best army in Iraq 😆
Rej5@reddit
this reminds me of generation kill where the guys would order parts for their humvees on the internet
NickJamesBlTCH@reddit
Per my combat vet buddies, that is probably the best depiction of what it was like.
The number of times they had to jurry-rig, barter for, or personally pay for things that would help them stay alive was morbidly hilarious x
Xentherida@reddit
Iceman sadly never got that titanium gun shield. What a tragedy.
adeadperson23@reddit
Legit we were not prepared for shit after 9/11 and it hot a lot of people killed
Billybobgeorge@reddit
"You go to war with the army you have, not the army you want!"
-guy whose whole job was making sure the army had what it wanted
stonednarwhal141@reddit
Which is even worse given the Bush administration are the ones who instigated the Iraq war. It wasn’t like Afghanistan where they were genuinely just reacting
kontemplador@reddit (OP)
I remember that sentence and the outrage it rightly sparked. There is much truth in it however.
Top-Reference1460@reddit
They were prepared for a near-peer war, not counter-insurgency.
Now it's the opposite
Apokolypse09@reddit
Quick go to the desert with guns that jam when they get sandy
Historical_Koala_688@reddit
I remember the “up armoring” era
IrishGamer97@reddit
Grunts and Crafts.
IronWarhorses@reddit
funny, looks like the same jokes people are making about the Russians now.
low_priest@reddit
All it's missing is the "FREE WIFI" armor
trailerhobbit@reddit
The damn things were never supposed to be APC's.
DESTRUCTI0NAT0R@reddit
Hell the GIs would do this shit even if it wasn't a necessity. It's just how they are.
shavedratscrotum@reddit
7.62 vs 5.56 was an issue too I recall.
MrSpacepls@reddit
well, those guys with flip flops and AKs smoked a lot of these with homemade explosives and did record it with shitty old cams😗
Sweet-Tomatillo-9010@reddit
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Historical-Count-374@reddit
Use what you've got or get buried under it
ninguem1122@reddit