Porsche Teases New Hypercar Inspired by the First Street-Legal 917
Posted by DrFuckwad@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 69 comments
Posted by DrFuckwad@reddit | cars | View on Reddit | 69 comments
bastosboi@reddit
So... Mission X electric hypercar is dead?
shellmiro@reddit
Basically. They asked all their 918 clients about their thoughts on it and it's approval was very low.
horribleone@reddit
Seriously? With the way high-performance cars are being built exclusively for the top 0.1% of earners these days, I wouldn't be surprised if car manufacturers in the future just flatout stopped reporting their best and most exclusive cars to the mainstream world and kept it all hush hush behind closed doors with their wealthy clientele because why would the plebs need to know about our latest hypercar?
shellmiro@reddit
Yeah this has long been known. Most wouldn't know about it unless they're extremely enthusiastic or in those circles. I got to know from a friend of a friend who is huge Porsche collector with about 30 Porsches. Hypercars for "regular" brands like Porsche and pure marketing exercises. They hope that you see the cool $2.5M 918/CGT/whatever and hopefully buy a 250-500k 911 in the future. They don't need to actively market these cars to sell them. The demand already exists as long as the product is half decent
Two_Shekels@reddit
Price: $2 million base, 3 with decent interior, mag wheels, etc. Expecting one to sell on BaT or similar after release for ~4-5mm with some sort of pseudo-historic livery and bespoke interior.
Advanced-Cycle7154@reddit
It’s all so tiresome.
Cash_Cab@reddit
“You mean this hypercar isn’t gonna be affordable? Those bastards!”
lowstrife@reddit
I mean what else are the 200 billionaires who buy all of these special one-off cars going to spend their money on?
AcanthaceaeNo948@reddit
There are over 3,000 billlionaires in the world.
MiloRoast@reddit
I ran into these douchebags the other day having what seemed like an impromptu car meet/hangout in the literal middle of the street. One of them yelled at me that I was an asshole because I was trying to quietly and politely go around them...standing in the middle of the street...so I could take my dog to the vet next door. It made me so sad to think literally every cool car like this is in the hands of these losers that purchase them to simply one-up each other at their next get-together.
Two_Shekels@reddit
Those airfield hangers in LA don’t fill themselves!
cookingboy@reddit
I’ve complained a lot on this sub about the continued up-market of enthusiast cars as the result of wealth gap. Like I really do hate it and what it represents and I hate how a 911 GTS is now a $200k car after some options. Even as a “one percenter” I’m wary of how quickly the price of these things are climbing.
But this is a Porsche flagship hypercar. It’s never meant to be remotely mass market and it’s only meant to be sold to the most loyal and wealthy Porsche clientele, as a marketing exercise.
So if the alternative is them not making a car like this, I hope they go ahead and make it.
wangchunge@reddit
First gear does 110mph at a guess.... 4 speed H pattern...150 2nd 180 3rd and 220 in 4th....
swordfi2@reddit
Oh they will, they already sold all of the allocation
KennyGaming@reddit
so good for them then right?
GoldenState15@reddit
"Waaaah waaaaah Porsche is making something cool again"
CousinsWithBenefits1@reddit
They need to go back to making affordable halo cars like the carerra gt and the 918 spyder!
TrumpAndKamalaSucks@reddit
Tiresome, like people on r/cars whining because some special cars are for the super rich.
Lemantech@reddit
Dude it’s a 917 essentially. Super cool
SithSidious@reddit
A one million dollar “917 interior package” which for some unknowable reason is not standard on the 917, yet not available on any other car.
Snowchicken21@reddit
Yawn
shellmiro@reddit
Judging by recent trends, base will be a lot more than 2M imo. W1 is 2.1M and F80 is around 4M but both of them are "regular" road cars. This one seems to be based on their Le Mans Racers so it might be even more expensive. I'm thinking 4M base (given 499P modificata, a Le Mans race car, is around 5M) and 5-5.5M for a good spec. Resale value will be entirely dependent on what the car actually is.
Maximilianne@reddit
Yeah I think the road version of the clk GTR or clk lm was like 1.5 mil back in the 90s so 2mil in 2025 seems way too low for porsche
DanielG165@reddit
There’s the third member of the new Trinity.
NotPumba420@reddit
With which other cars? F80 and W1? What about AMG One and Valkyrie?
c74@reddit
amg one and aston valkyrie aren't road legal in the americas. iirc they are show and display. that is a very very heavy asterisk imo.
NotPumba420@reddit
In the US maybe. No problem in the rest of the world
c74@reddit
cars that are not legal to drive in the western world are a nothing burger. i think most europeans would say that north american cars that are not legal in the usa are a pile of turds.
NotPumba420@reddit
Simply depends on where you live. As a european I do not care about if something is legal in the US
DanielG165@reddit
F80 and W1 for me, personally.
NotPumba420@reddit
Makes sense. The AMG One and Valkyrie were something else. Their own thing.
Aero06@reddit
I remember a few years ago, Porsche built a 919 Strassenversion concept that was absolutely gorgeous, I wonder how close this will be to the 963 LMH or if they're planning on redesigning it similarly.
pascualama@reddit
Looks like a Kunigsegg, or Kunny as I like to call them because I can’t actually spell keonigsecks.
siggystabs@reddit
Koe Nig Segg
brealytrent@reddit
Assuming the shadow in the video is a good representation of the actual car and not just a 963, it looks very close to the racecar.
CreaminFreeman@reddit
Oh my Gordon Murray that thing is dripping with sexy!
dam_sharks_mother@reddit
Jerry Seinfeld is frothing at the mouth.
dicksoutforharambe__@reddit
Awesome
imightgetdownvoted@reddit
I’m so happy for the billionaires who will be able to enjoy this!
EmergencyRace7158@reddit
As long as it gets the 963 drivetrain with the V8. An all electric Porsche hypercard was rumored a while ago and that would be the wrong direction for the brand. Few people want an electric hypercar, take it from Mate Rimiac himself. It's why he scrapped the all electric Bugatti that was planned and pivoted to the NA V16 Hybrid Tourbillion.
MaskedDullahan@reddit
First the track only 499P Modificata, now a possible street legal 963. Come on Caddy, give the people what they want. A street legal V-Series R!
nayrlladnar@reddit
GM: "Best we can do is a new electric crossover."
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RevvedUpLikeADeuce09@reddit
Please have an engine. Please have an engine.
Homer_JG@reddit
Who cares? No one that can afford to buy it will ever drive it on a road.
Bonerchill@reddit
Oh fuck off who cares.
We’re going to release an entirely too fast car for sheikhs and financiers, and we’re going to throw back to the 917 because we have no choice. All of our modern special editions are throwbacks because nostalgia is the only thing driving the market.
The cars aren’t small and feelsome and full of energy anymore and they’re priced so fucking high that a hard-working teacher can’t afford a two-year-old one, which means the ownership base is becoming cloistered in the moneyed, i.e. boring as fuck and hard-to-love, crowd.
The 963 is 38” longer than the 917K.
furrynoy96@reddit
Aren't you a ray of sunshine...
Bonerchill@reddit
I’m just pissed they aren’t making a new Panzer for class warriors who need HEAT during their commute.
probablyhrenrai@reddit
Chrysler still makes the M1 Abrams afaik, though I dunno if USDM is your thing.
shellmiro@reddit
When exactly in history could a hard working teacher afford a two year old Porsche hypercar?
Bonerchill@reddit
Well, in 1965, there was no hypercar. There wasn’t a Porsche road car that could be classified as such until the 959.
I met literally dozens of 356 and 911 owners who purchased them used but within a couple years of production and who were either teachers or young professors just getting started.
shellmiro@reddit
Yes but we're talking about the tippy-top of the pinnacle here while talking about hypercars. These sorts of cars were always out of reach for everyone but the wealthy few. The fact is that these are luxury cars and have always far outpaced inflation or wages and will continue to do so.
Entire_Eye_4134@reddit
I mean … you could say the same thing about the road-legal 917 right?! That thing was way too fast for the road decades ago — or wasn’t it? Besides it’s not like they’re rereleasing the 917. The video clearly shows that they’re making a road legal 963,and the connection between the 917 and the 963 is that both are race cars that can be converted for street use
the_hun@reddit
Same with the GT1 SV (although that’s not a different model, but a wee bit extreme modification of the 911)
Bonerchill@reddit
Porsche didn’t make a road-legal 917, a private owner did.
There was no cash grab, no need to compete with the Valkyrie and One and whatever-the-else in that dumbass category exists currently.
Religion_Of_Speed@reddit
THIS is what a hypercar should look like. It should look like it wants to go to the track. Better looking than any of the luxury-based hypercars we've seen. No shiny nonsense hanging off, the interior is nice and simple, the whole thing looks handmade. Then again that might say more about my 70s - early 00s taste profile than anything. Either way this looks amazing and I'm sure it performs just as good.
gigamiga@reddit
I just want anything that looks like a Mission R
SelfServeSporstwash@reddit
See, this is the kind of cool shit rich people should be spending their money on.
Go nuts guys, spend a couple million on some awesome art that also goes 200mph, just leave our government systems the fuck alone.
hotbuilder@reddit
Kind of sad that this article (and i suppose the original press release) completely omit the other road legal 917, in my opinion the way cooler one.
After a pretty long career racing and one crash, chassis 021 was sold without any running gear to Achim Grossmann, a german innkeeper who painstakingly rebuilt the entire car with a new engine, custom glass windows, road legal exhaust system and a myriad of other small changes in order to make it adhere to the pretty strict german roadworthiness standards (unlike the one converted by Porsche).
After legally registering it, and years of blasting around german backcountry roads the car was eventually sold and rebuilt to race specifications. A lot of information about the car's history seems to have been lost to time, though the owner apparently stated that "maintenance isn't much more expensive than for a regular Turbo Porsche, save for the 24 spark plugs and 40 liters of engine oil".
ScoutB_@reddit
Oh my god it’s beautiful. I love the fact they didn’t modernise it with a redesign like the ford GT. If I was a millionaire I would snap this up in an instant.
atomicskiracer@reddit
…you know those pictures are of the street legal 917, and not of the now hyper car, right?
SquirtBox@reddit
Even the 1/4 second of the silhouette though? Can't really tell much of anything of course, but it looks sweet
Existing-Song-9658@reddit
Hope it's not electric, otherwise it will never turn into a real product
AFrozen_1@reddit
Porsche 963 street car would be lit. Bring back teller olden days of homologation when manufacturers had to make insane shit for the street so they could race it:
skopyeah@reddit
Holy trinity? Holy trinity!
shellmiro@reddit
That looks sick even in silhouette form! It'll be like a 499P Modificata but in street legal form. Can't wait for it!
red_monkey_i_am@reddit
My car number plate has the numbers 917 and BXR in it, sadly it's not on a Porsche.
DrFuckwad@reddit (OP)
Street legal 963? YES PLEASE