Who would you give a knighthood to? Who would take one away from?
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If you could give a knighthood to someone overlooked, who would it be? Similarly, if you could take one away from someone already knighted, who would that be?
Herbalistick@reddit
Give to Jamie Oliver... Take from Sadiq Khan.
watsee@reddit
I came here to say Ozzy, but OP already covered that. By extension though I'd give Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward all knighthoods as well.
Ozzy often gets the limelight where Sabbath are concerned but it was the four of them together that mixed perfectly to create the music they did.
WishboneDelicious816@reddit
Give one to Bob Mortimer
Take away James Cordens like the guy above says
Eryeahmaybeok@reddit
We could get Corden to turn up for a 'special' one, then kick him in the balls and call him a cnut..
WishboneDelicious816@reddit
New game - Surprise Knighting, we wait in bushes for Croden then jump out and kick him in the nuts so he falls to his knees then we knight him.
Upstairs_Yogurt_5208@reddit
I would take away the knighthood from Sadiq Kahn because he’s done fuck all to deserve it. Kevin Sinfield should be awarded a knighthood for all he’s done to raise funds for motor neurone disease
Miriglith@reddit
As someone bringing up children in London I beg to differ. Improvements in air quality are quietly going to save thousands of lives.
NeilOB9@reddit
That is one part of his job which he has done well, other parts he has not
Content-Violinist613@reddit
Which bits in particular do you think he could’ve done a better job at?
NeilOB9@reddit
ULEZ, although I’m not actually opposed to it, was carried out too quickly in my view, and many people did not know about it until not long before it was put into action. He and his cabinet should have done a better job of educating those who would be and were affected by it further in advance.
Content-Violinist613@reddit
But you said “That is one part of his job which he has done well” which is it?
Kat8844@reddit
I’m in 2 minds regarding the ULEZ expansion, mostly because it did just blanket cover Greater London so the really outer bits that don’t have an issue with air quality people still get penalised. I don’t disagree with his wanting to improve the air quality, just think his expansion came in at a very bad time for people struggling financially and having the extra burden of changing their car and the size of the zone too. Saying that I’d rather it came in than didn’t, we have a new hybrid car so it isn’t effected us but I do have some sympathy for people it has. I have no sympathy for people who drive in Central London unless they have to though, the public transport is so good!. Also think his idea of pedestrianising Oxford Street is great!.
I_have_one_comment@reddit
Could you not argue this is merely his role as a political entity, and it should be agiven that he attempts to improve the lives of constituents, rather than rewarding it with a knighthood
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
Could you not argue that most knighthoods go to people who are just "doing their job", but still improve lives from doing it? Isn't Churchill just the pinnacle of "doing their job" (excusing the Indian starvations)?
I_have_one_comment@reddit
Yeah arguably you're right. Personally I'd reserve it for people separate from politics. Charity, scientific breakthroughs etc. Probably why I'm not in charge of these decisions lol
Scared-Researcher832@reddit
I can assure you the parents who have lost there children to knife crime would also differ
Upstairs_Yogurt_5208@reddit
As someone bringing up children in London you should be concerned about the ever increasing crime rates in London since Kahn has been in office. Knife crime is especially concerning
Miriglith@reddit
Well I'm not, so there.
Upstairs_Yogurt_5208@reddit
👍
Miriglith@reddit
Sorry, that deserved a more serious response. Obviously knife crime is concerning but it's a national trend.
teerbigear@reddit
And free school lunches for all. And it looks like he'll manage to pedestrianise Oxford Street (angering residents lol, imagine moving to near Oxford Street and then complaining about someone trying to make it less shit)
Content-Violinist613@reddit
A lot of people get honours for multiple terms of public service, let alone being mayor of one of Europe's biggest cities. Strange that Sadie Khan gets far more hate than everyone else put together.
Mesa_Dad@reddit
Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health what's Sadiq Khan ever done for us?
NeilOB9@reddit
Public order?
AtebYngNghymraeg@reddit
Kevin Sinfield was absolutely my first thought, too. So incredibly selfless in his charity work, and the way he treated Rob Burrow was a fine example in friendship to us all.
Straight_Agency_5690@reddit
I totally agree about Sadiq Khant
Ill-Breadfruit5356@reddit
I’d take away the knighthood from Christopher Chope.
I’ve hated him since 2010 when “On 12 March 2010, Chope blocked a bill to protect poor countries from vulture funds, despite his party's support for the bill.”
He literally cost the poorest people in the world billions by shouting “object” at a critical time.
He’s more famous for this: “On 15 June 2018, Chope blocked the passage of a private member's bill that would have made upskirting a specific offence.”
And he was given his knighthood for services to politics. Absolute scum of the earth.
KatherinesDaddy@reddit
Philip Davies was one of these. Objected to a bill proposing stricter punishments for violence against women and girls.
Utter fucking walloper...
--BooBoo--@reddit
I'd love to know how he justified objecting to upskirting?
pajamakitten@reddit
He hates private members bills, despite using them himself.
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
It was a private members bill on its second reading, it would be passed into law if it went through unopposed. I believe he just objects to those on the grounds of their existence (except for the 40+ he's submitted himself, naturally....). In that same session he also objected to a bill to make it an offence to attack police horses/dogs and prison dogs for the exact same reasoning.
--BooBoo--@reddit
Jesus what a knobhead! I could almost see objecting if you really disagree with the whole process of passing laws that way, but not if you are proposing them yourself.
So he's either an animal hating pervert who wants to take pics of ladies knickers, or he's got a God complex and thinks the only laws that should be passed without debate are his own.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Rees-Mogg's can go too. And Williamson.
lonehorizons@reddit
I remember him from the upskirting bill objection but apparently he objects to literally every piece of legislation they try to pass. Like he gets off on it or something.
FlapjackAndFuckers@reddit
I remember this fucker.
Agreed!
KatherinesDaddy@reddit
Dame Lorraine Kelly. We all need this...
KatherinesDaddy@reddit
We need Sir Martin Lewis.
Take them away from all politicians...
ThisIsAnAccount2306@reddit
Apparently Jimmy Savile still has one as they can't be taken posthumously? That would be a good shout for taking it back.
Herne_KZN@reddit
Not exactly. They can’t be removed posthumously as they end with death so he doesn’t still have one.
ThisIsAnAccount2306@reddit
Ah fair enough. I just remembered reading something about how it couldn't be taken back. Forgot the details I guess.
Poncemastergeneral@reddit
Are you thinking of the VC?
You can go to the gallows wearing it. It’s a reward for bravery and your actions before or after don’t effect what you did in that moment, how they changed the course of the situation.
Plantagenesta@reddit
Strictly speaking, the Victoria Cross can actually be forfeited; in the first few decades of its existence there were about 8 or 9 cases where recipients were stripped of it after being convicted of various crimes.
It was George V who objected, extremely strongly, to the idea of a VC being forfeited, so none have been since the 1920s. But the actual potential to revoke a VC has never actually been abolished, so George's precedent is really more of a convention than a rule. So, in-theory, if a VC recipient later turned out to be - speaking hypothetically - some kind of latter-day Gilles de Rais-style, serial-killing child rapist - Charles III could decide George V got it wrong, change convention, and strip the award.
Poncemastergeneral@reddit
I did not know that.
I only heard of the go to the gallows thing, it was attributed to Albert not George V.
Thanks for that, you learn something new everyday
Opening-Worker-3075@reddit
Unlike Jimmy himself, who liked to give people one even after they were dead
lonehorizons@reddit
It makes sense but it’s kind of weird that we refer to dead knights with their title still intact, if what they’re saying is true. Like Sir Sean Connery etc.
MazrimReddit@reddit
let's give him it back then, can't let the institution forget that embarrassment
PomegranateV2@reddit
On what grounds?
ThisIsAnAccount2306@reddit
Have you not heard of Jimmy Savile or are you about to claim he was an innocent man?
Creamyspud@reddit
Give: Blair Mayne Take: Tony Blair
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
What about Tony Mayne?
Loud_Recover_1131@reddit
Sir Bruce Dickinson
smutanssmutans@reddit
Give: Billy Boston. No rugby league player has ever been knighted.
Take: Can I have four? Grant Shapps, Michael Green, Corinne Stockheath and Sebastian Fox.
Necessary-Trash-8828@reddit
David Beckham
east112@reddit
Kevin Pietersen - my favourite English cricketer of all time.
RainbowPenguin1000@reddit
I would give a knighthood to James Cordon.
I would then take away a knighthood from James Cordon.
The meltdown would be spectacular.
Ok-Succotash-2885@reddit
I've never wanted someone to suffer a downpegging as much as James corden.
Digidigdig@reddit
How does that differ from regular pegging?
Ok-Succotash-2885@reddit
I just figured James had an extra chromosome
NoTrain1456@reddit
Yes he has chromosome C
dmmeyourfloof@reddit
Nailed it.
Digidigdig@reddit
🤣
magicaltrevor953@reddit
Bigger shaft.
Ciato78@reddit
If cordon was on fire and I had a pint, I’d glass the c*nt
Euphoric-Brother-669@reddit
What a great idea, I could think of a few more to do that to, James O’Brien, Carol Vorderman, Alastair Campbell, Rory Stewart - great idea
Secret-Specialist-50@reddit
Or just a right good pegging!!!!
PrawnFresh69@reddit
At first I was like NO!!!
And then I was like YES!!!
Cute_Researcher_6578@reddit
I'm with you on this!
kirwanm86@reddit
Then I was like WHOA!?!?
PrawnFresh69@reddit
But then I was all like...pondering upon such a tomfoolerous feat. And all of a sudden, I was like this is the BEST idea ever anyone has ever come up with.
Fuck world hunger, peace or happiness. We want James Corden to be stripped from his theoretical knighthood and possibly (accidentally of course) decapitated😃👍
westfieldram@reddit
If they could just slip with the sword a little bit, that would be great!
thesaharadesert@reddit
Just a little off the top
Cmdr_Morb@reddit
Thomas à Becket style
thesaharadesert@reddit
Oooh, yes
Thisoneissfwihope@reddit
That’s a scene in Bernard and the Genie - it was so satisfying!
ZakFellows@reddit
You give it to James Corden then tell him a princess needs rescuing from a Volcano
Basso_69@reddit
Good call.
EatingCoooolo@reddit
Just to get him trending and written and spoken about and be in the headlines for another ten years.
WelshLeachy@reddit
Had us in the first half, not going to lie.
WannabeSloth88@reddit
*Corden
SlightlyIncandescent@reddit
I think Gareth Southgate being knighted was a bit embarrassing. He gave us some great moments and did a good job but for a knighthood to even be considered he should have won something.
Belgium and Croatia had a good few years without winning anything as well and I bet they weren't giving out their equivalent to knighthoods for it.
PublicStructure7091@reddit
I think Southgate's was at least in part for his work in restructuring youth development, which is arguably even bigger than his success with the senior side, since it'll continue to pay dividends. Still kind of embarrassing, but slightly less so
gypsyjackson@reddit
Croatia did - Dalic was elevated to the Order of Duke Trpimir.
SlightlyIncandescent@reddit
I purely assumed, thanks for letting me know. Lame to do that for someone that didn't win anything though. Although more lame for England who have won a major trophy before - if your country hasn't it makes a bit more sense.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Now that just sounds so much cooler
Jlaw118@reddit
I’d give one to Martin Lewis for all of his services financially. He’s given the public so much help and support over the years when no government could.
Remove Sadiq Khan’s. He’s done absolutely nothing positive for London and certainly doesn’t deserve the knighthood he got on the new years honours list
mrshakeshaft@reddit
Interesting about sadiq khan. I don’t live in London so I don’t really have a dog in the fight but what’s he doing that’s so bad?
Theo_Cherry@reddit
Dumb take...very dumb take!
Emperors-Peace@reddit
This would be your chance to say why....
Theo_Cherry@reddit
London is getting cleaner. More local council green initiatives.
glasgowgeg@reddit
They could, they just couldn't be bothered.
Eryeahmaybeok@reddit
100% Martin has earned his
RBisoldandtired@reddit
Takeaway all of them, then remove hereditary titles from the House of Lords. Then remove the House of Lords. Then…. Actually this just ends up in “burn it down”. Nevermind.
sedtamenveniunt@reddit
I would support just burning this entire country down to collect the insurance.
mrshakeshaft@reddit
I wouldn’t chance it, they probably cancelled the insurance policy back in 2008 to save money
AffectionateComb6664@reddit
Ah yeah, I am sure things would go just swell without the house of lords keeping parliament in check
sedtamenveniunt@reddit
May already pointed the out the fact the PM can just nominate enough new peers to overwhelm the house years ago.
RBisoldandtired@reddit
Oh parliament would also be burned down. Silly goose.
No_Direction_4566@reddit
How would you get parliament to burn?
Its apparently quite moist inside anyway and all the stone doesn't work.
For purely theoretical understanding of course.
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
Apparently it wouldn't take much for the wiring in there to do the job for you. No one's ever been willing to commit to actually spending the money/not using parts of it required to do up a 200 year old bits that have had assorted "modern" features like electricity and plumbing just bolted on over the centuries.
RBisoldandtired@reddit
I was thinking fuel + oxygen + heat
Mesa_Dad@reddit
What's a delicious Japanese alcoholic beverage got to do with this?
decisiontoohard@reddit
Please don't burn it down, I really care about historical architecture 🥺 may I suggest toxic gas, instead?
KxJlib@reddit
Well step 2 has already been done no? Hereditary peers are in the process of being removed.
Miserable-Put-2531@reddit
Definitely give one to Paul Sinton- Hewitt.
He founded parkrun which has changed so many lives. More than 200,000 did parkrun last weekend.
He's done more to get the nation active than any amount of government campaigns and funding
A_Chicken_Called_Kip@reddit
Doing my first park run tomorrow!
icklepeach@reddit
Me too. I’ve volunteered over 40 times and tomorrow I’m taking part in it for the first time ever.
A_Chicken_Called_Kip@reddit
Good luck this morning!
--BooBoo--@reddit
That's brilliant, have a great time.
Miserable-Put-2531@reddit
Enjoy it
Sir-Fappington@reddit
I'd argue the NHS couch to 5k campaign/app has been hugely impactful.
CentralSaltServices@reddit
Yes, but how many people do both?
icklepeach@reddit
There’s a c25K group at our local parkrun, and many “graduates” of it on top of that.
TheBlonde1_2@reddit
Me!!
kuhfunnunuhpah@reddit
Huzzah! We can say that at least 1 person has been impacted by these things!
--BooBoo--@reddit
And me so that's two of us!
batgirlsmum@reddit
Three
BabyAlibi@reddit
I run to my couch. Does that count?
Bravo_November@reddit
Completed the c25k app last year and am about to start my 11th parkrun tomorrow! Thanks in part to my gal Denise Lewis.
GingerbreadMary@reddit
I do the couch part very well indeed.
Sir-Fappington@reddit
A motorised couch with wheels could work. Get to 5k in a jiffy!
Ze_Gremlin@reddit
Now I'm just picturing a single axle rammed through the side of the couch, and it just constantly tips over, dumping all the people sat on it trying to steer
renderedpotato@reddit
I think he is South African.
colin_staples@reddit
Parkrun is fantastic. Not only does it encourage activity, but it's an inclusive and welcoming thing for all ages and abilities.
They encourage walking and even have volunteer tail walkers so you absolutely won't be "last", which is an enormous mental hurdle for some people who fear that they won't be able to"good enough"
They have junior parkrun to encourage children to start running
It's amazing for mental health, because you are out with other people in the fresh air and in parks (not roads). For some people it's the only activity they have. For some people it's the only interaction they have with other people.
And it's free.
Loidis@reddit
Absolutely. I’ve never been a runner, but cycled to work and did activities that kept me reasonably fit in my twenties. Covid hit, and suddenly those incidental activities disappeared and my fitness tanked. Gyms don’t suit me and I don’t have the spare cash to join classes, but I’ve been park-running for the past six months. It’s social, it’s inclusive, it’s really easy to get into… and I’ve been getting faster and less out of breath each week!
Honestly, I’m so grateful that it’s there for people to access. If anyone is considering it and feeling nervous, give it a go.
himore@reddit
I used to work with Paul when he was trying to get Parkrun up and running (no pun intended). A thoroughly nice and pleasant chap. Would go out of his way to help you.
He's already a CBE. One below a KBE.
stercus_uk@reddit
Ian Hislop. Although he’d never accept it in a million years.
MagicBez@reddit
The honours rejector list is always the more interesting read
chickenandpasta@reddit
I just had to Google who John Oliver was although I have heard that name somewhere before. Interesting that an American celebrity (albeit with dual UK/American citizenship) was offered an OBE.
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
He was in the first two series of Mock the Week. Moved over to the USA after about 5 years of the uk circuit and started doing bits on the daily show.
pajamakitten@reddit
He was big on Whose Line Is It Anyway? too.
HomeworkInevitable99@reddit
'Bits' is now a writer in 932 episodes of the Daily Show and 246 episodes of Last Week Tonight .
Also presented 709 episodes of those shows.
Also 1 episode of danger mouse.
Specific-Map3010@reddit
He wasn't an American citizen until 2019, he was born in the UK and emigrated in his thirties. Culturally, I think it's fair to call him British.
wolftick@reddit
John Oliver would definitely have been less likely to talk about it if they didn't tell him not to 😄
matt_smith_keele@reddit
Hislop is exactly the kind of man who would deserve one, if they were given to people who actually deserve them (some recent life peerages excepted).
And the fact thatone of the most deserving would never accept one says everything you need to know about the whole nepotistic charade.
Thelichemaster@reddit
Give Bernard Cornwell Take all of the people Liz Truss had the absurd right to award during her brief tenure.
Specific-Map3010@reddit
I dunno, knights in Bernard Cornwell's books tend to be pretty awful people.
Plantagenesta@reddit
Are you trying to tell me Sir Henry Simmerson isn't the kindest, gentlest, most benevolent man in all of fiction?
MattheqAC@reddit
I'd knight the lettuce
Enigma_789@reddit
Nah, don't knight the lettuce. Make it an honorary shrubbery.
Far-Adhesiveness3763@reddit
Most celebrities don't deserve them.
CiderDrinker2@reddit
I would give a knighthood to Mackenzie Crook, director of The Detectorists.
The Detectorists is a perfect series. It's not only funny, interesting and heartwarming. It's also an exploration and celebration of a certain type of Deep Englishness. It isn't folk-horror, but it has many of the same themes: our inextricable, sometimes troubled, relationship with past and place. It reminds the English that they live in an old country, with bones - and possibly gold, more more likely a ring-pull from a 1975 can of Tizer - under the ground.
Opening-Worker-3075@reddit
Also give an award to that welsh actress who plays Sophie for being the most beautiful woman i have ever seen in my entire life
Sharks_and_Bones@reddit
Aimee-Ffion Edwards
Opening-Worker-3075@reddit
Shes breathtaking
blkndwhtkys@reddit
Hang on... Are you Mackenzie Crook?
CiderDrinker2@reddit
No, sadly not.
Delicious-Program-50@reddit
Take away from Tony “c**t” Blair and give one to Alan Titchmarsh; he’s so sweet lol
Verbal-Gerbil@reddit
I’d take it away from all party donors. YOU CAN’T GIVE HONOURS FOR THAT!!!
dannyybhoyy@reddit
Clive Myrie
Early_Government198@reddit
Give: Bob Mortimer Take: All MPs getting rewarded for fucking the country.
SprinklyUK@reddit
Beckham No idea who is unworthy, probably a lot
BennyAronov@reddit
Chris Eubank Snr, he loves all that crap!
moofacemoo@reddit
I await his completely unnecessary yet rather compelling poem about said event.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Which Greg Davies will then do an impeccable impersonation of on Cats Does Countdown
moofacemoo@reddit
And then eubank himself literally shows up to Greg's surprise a while later.
lonehorizons@reddit
Give one to Gary Oldman (one of the best and hardest working British actors), and take away Mogg’s. He achieved absolutely nothing while in government.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
I remember him getting eviscerated by Peter Hitchens on BBC QT.
Won't sit here and pretend I'm the biggest fan of the younger Hitch, but he absolutely took the Tories to task multiple times and it's very rare you see Mogg knowing he's up against someone that can cut through all the pomp and BS of his persona in a way that will actually get JRMs fans to reconsider their position.
Dragon_M4st3r@reddit
When Gavin Williamson got a knighthood I discovered that the entire concept is meaningless. It’s like what Twitter blue ticks eventually became.
I would take away Gavin Williamson’s and give it to a vegan Just Stop Oil protestor to really send the Daily Mail and co into apoplectic frenzy
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Williamson was genuinely worse than Michael Gove as education secretary. Something I genuinely didn't think could ever be possible.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
Gavin Williamson - the man somehow managed to be shitter than Michael Gove as education secretary.
Gove can lose his as well. And Rees-Mogg.
m1bnk@reddit
Hannah Fry, Brian Cox - both done immense work bringing science skills and knowledge to a wide audience, they're the (Sir) Patrick Moore's of their day
No_Atmosphere8146@reddit
At first I was going to ask "which Brian Cox?", but they I realised it doesn't matter. Get them both in.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
"Professor Cox, I must say you're a lot more grumpy and Scottish in real life than you are on all those space shows..."
COYSMcCOYSFace@reddit
Love them both https://youtu.be/P5bfiZnwq3s?si=8THihSvf2DzeaxI0
Mesa_Dad@reddit
Two Cox and Hannah Fry in the same sentence...?
CouchAlchemist@reddit
Bob Mortimer for bringing laughs to 3 generations.
Mc_and_SP@reddit
We'll need to give MBEs to Harry Harriman, Steve Bytheway, Micky the Drink, Slow Colin and Still Ken too
loveswimmingpools@reddit
And Paul Whitehouse. For being ....brilliant
CulturedClub@reddit
And for getting Bob active after his heart op when many others had failed. Which resulted in the gem Gone Fishing
Swearyman@reddit
Oohhh. Did you like that sir. Did you. Oohh. Suits you.
CentralSaltServices@reddit
Sir Robert Mortimer Von Middlesbrough. I'm down for that
CouchAlchemist@reddit
Beautiful title. A true treasure !!!
sharkmaninjamaica@reddit
everyone working for the fackin NHS
best in fuckin werld
all angles them lot
bearchr01@reddit
Give = Martin Lewis
Take away = anybody who got it just because of their connections
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
Martin Lewis got very very rich from his advice, a lot of which is poor. Some of his campaigns resulted in much higher charges for consumers. eg Mobile phone yearly increases.
bearchr01@reddit
But he carries on doing his best to help people when he doesn’t have to because he is, as you said, very rich
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
I’m sure he intends well, but much of his advice is poor or downright wrong (eg carers allowance). People who listened to him end up missing out. And in the case of high profile campaigns like the mobile phone charges cost ordinary people millions of pounds.
Mesa_Dad@reddit
That's one hell of a phone contract...
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
He campaigned for people to be told, at the start of phone contracts, how much in pounds and pence, the contract would go up each year rather than the previous percentage + inflation people were quoted.
So this ended up being an increase of between £1.50 a month and £2.00 a month each year
What he forgot is that people are on different cost of contracts. Some pay £75 per month or more for which an increase of £1.50 isn't much. But if you are on £8 a month it's a much bigger percentage.
So the people on a lower contract pay a much higher increase than they would have compared to the old system. While the people with high value contracts pay a lower percentage increase.
He caused more unfairness than there was before. As I said, I'm sure he didn't mean to do this but it's just one example where his mistakes cost real people money.
Appropriate_Dig_252@reddit
From the way you've described it, all he did was make it so they had to list the actual price, rather than let people work it out themselves, which means the lower contracts would have still gone up by that same amount, and now people can see clearly they are getting ripped off.
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
No, prices used to be set at inflation plus a particular percentage. So cheaper tariffs had a smaller increase. Now it's a fixed amount so cheaper tariffs have a bigger percentage increase. Some O2 customers this year are seeing 30% increases whereas under the old system they would have seen no more than 7%.
EmeraldJunkie@reddit
Not really his fault phone companies used a change in consumer protection legislation to squeeze a few more pounds out of everyone.
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
Contracts have mostly always had a yearly rise, by forcing them to apply a fixed amount it's disproportionately affected people on cheaper contracts.
This is only one example though.
BupidStastard@reddit
I agree. People seem to think he's some selfless hero of the working class, when all he does is repeat basic advice he probably heard from someone else. A lit lot of what he suggests is also very patronising for the people hes claiming to help.
Specific-Map3010@reddit
His advice for middle earners can be pretty solid. No one else told me about LISAs, that alone put ten grand in my pocket.
As the first person in my family to have a mortgage I didn't have anyone to ask advice of. The r/ukpersonalfinance subreddit is great, but it's not universally accessible. A straightforward guide to basic stuff for people who don't have middle class parents to guide them is literally life changing for people like me.
shakesfistatmoon@reddit
I know, he told carers they could get £4,000 a year when it’s actually less than half that.
matt_smith_keele@reddit
Your takeaway list is 99.9% of everyone who ever got one, especially peerages.
check the list and see how many you actually know. And that's just knights/dames, not lords/barons etc.
Lebedev is a great example of why the whole system should be scrapped.
Personal_Director441@reddit
nope not a chance, used to listen to this clown on his radio 2 segment banging on about getting your money into Icelandic banks because they were paying out 6% or more right before they all went belly up.
ANuggetEnthusiast@reddit
Give: Rowan Atkinson
Take: Can I have both Priti Patel AND Andrea Jenkyns? Patel is obvious, Jenkyns has done literally nothing to deserve any kind of reward.
Jimmyboro@reddit
Sir Jeremy Clarkson, and Mr Alan Sugar.
Ecstatic_Ratio5997@reddit
If Michael Mosley was still alive, one for him.
GlamGemini@reddit
Definitely!
Appropriate_Dig_252@reddit
Give: no idea.
Remove: Alan Sugar. Con man, piece of shit.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Is Alan Sugar a con man? I thought he mostly made his money off honest tech'
('despite striking me as a man who can't work a mouse)
Woffingshire@reddit
Paul chuckle. Both the chuckle brothers should have got them before Barry died.
Ze_Gremlin@reddit
"Sir Barry" is such a contradiction, I love it
Historical_Cobbler@reddit
That would’ve been the longest ceremony ever.
“To me…”
SnooBooks1701@reddit
King Charles: To you
Cute_Researcher_6578@reddit
Oh dear oh dear
SnooBooks1701@reddit
And no slacking
tmr89@reddit
Well, if they both got one they wouldn’t need to say that
Andagonism@reddit
No they should have got one, between the both of them.
Then Every month, they can take turns owning the medal and go " from me, to you, you to me"
Preacherjonson@reddit
For his services to the rave scene?
He'd be my choice too. Total legend.
TheFlyingScotsman60@reddit
It would have been impossible to give either of them a knight hood first cos all it would have been is....
To me......
To you......
No, to me..
Mijman@reddit
Agreed
BarraDoner@reddit
Neil Buchanan. Positive and understated impact on British culture for people who grew up in the 90s. Didn’t seem to have an ego to pursue fame like many other children’s tv hosts and continues his art to this day under his alter-ego (Banksy not Smarty-Arty).
Ok_Chipmunk_7066@reddit
Banksy is the guy from Massive Attack.
Ze_Gremlin@reddit
Nah, Banksy is the head from art attack.
Jr79@reddit
Is the suggestion here that Banksy is in fact, art attacks Neil Buchanan?
CentralSaltServices@reddit
"Try it yersef!"
Cute_Researcher_6578@reddit
"then hide when yer parents see the mess you made!"
MeenaBeti@reddit
Robin Gunningham is Banksy. There’s been a few articles over the years about it.
Dear_Tangerine444@reddit
Sounds like Neil Buchanan’s disinformation campaign is working as planned.
hokkuhokku@reddit
Mate, I can’t believe you’ve missed that Robin Gunningham is clearly an anagram of Neil Buchanan.
Jr79@reddit
With the odd letter added or subtracted, it fits perfectly
Azz1337@reddit
My god, he's right!
Able_While_974@reddit
60% of the time it works every time.
Obvious-Ad448@reddit
He went on the BBC to deny it, which only makes it more likely, right?
PublicOppositeRacoon@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseille_(band)
He did have a band, came and played at my uni when the rock society invited him.
wolftick@reddit
Oh god yes
frjack666@reddit
Josh looks angry... What did Alex say, this time? 😄
km6669@reddit
He's basically like Haile Selassie and Rasterfarians.
footstool411@reddit
What, this guy? https://youtu.be/htApRMWDueg
deathmetalbestmetal@reddit
Obligatory pointing out that he's also in an old school heavy metal band called Marseille.
msully89@reddit
Scouser isn't he? I'd like to think he'd turn it down.
iamdefinitelynotdave@reddit
Banksy's real name is Robin Gunningham.
LyingFacts@reddit
Is he woke though? Hope he isn’t too compassionate to the poor, immigrants and those non white. Think I’d have a Art Attack if so!
Me wife when I enter the premises of my British built home by mostly non brits and materials from abroad, she knows, when I enter the drive way in my German car to get the TV fired up on the beautiful souls that air on GB News.
Long-Maize-9305@reddit
Wibble
privilegedwhiner@reddit
Give: Fred Dibnah. To correct an ommission. Take: Blair. Because he is a cunting liar.
Shitelark@reddit
One each for Brian Cox and Prof. Brian Cox, on the same day, for the giggles. 'Sir Brian Cox?' 'No, Professor Sir Brian Cox.' (Profession goes fits as in General Sir Michael Jackson.)
Meanwhile -1 from Mogg
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
If you're going hand out two, then -2 for Mogg. Make him a super-pleb
Shitelark@reddit
He should have to pay for one of those missing buses -£365million, the prick.
Due-Structure-6110@reddit
Why the fuck do some celebrities get knighthoods? I can’t help but feel it’s simply because they are famous.
Great, they do a bit of charity work. But what about the regular Jane Smiths whose been working in the hospital for 25 years and counting? With a wage that doesn’t reflect the job role, poor working conditions. And will go to work anyway. Probably because a part of her believes in the mission.
She gets not even a mention.
dl064@reddit
Honorary degrees annoy me.
Secret-Ice260@reddit
I live in the US, and a local professor who does research on honeybee conservation received a KBE about 10 years ago.
BackgroundGate3@reddit
You can nominate Jane Smith yourself for an award. It really pisses me off when people rant about ordinary people not getting awards for their outstanding contributions because it's entirely possible, it's just that the people doing the ranting are the ones who need to get off their arse and make the nomination. https://www.gov.uk/honours
AutisticCorvid@reddit
Yup, my best friend - who was the CEO of the charity I used to work for - was nominated. They were contacted about it, but said they'd turn it down so it went no further.
DameKumquat@reddit
Can confirm - I've done the paperwork and got a couple friends of mine MBEs. Actually I think one was an OBE. And once you have that after your name, you get taken a lot more seriously doing your voluntary work.
So if you know anyone who has done great stuff for at least 5 years, and you know their full name and date of birth, go for it.
Due-Structure-6110@reddit
Good job, Dame Kumquat. I’ll make sure to do that from now on.
footstool411@reddit
I know Jane does a good job but she’s insufferable and if she gets an honor we’ll never hear the end of it. Say hi to her for me btw.
FlapjackAndFuckers@reddit
She doesn't have good decorum...
Dazz316@reddit
There's usually lots of extra corricular stuff for knighthoods, work done in addition to the stuff they might be known for. Charity work for example. Famous will be part of it, but many non famous people get them too. But it's going to be hard to do stuff so great for an entire country that you get a "top price" and then not have some fame along with that. So yeah, many will be famous.
Like David Beckham was a global icon for a good while, was relatively well behaved, a good role model, lots of charitable work. We all took the piss of the guy but he's done a lot for football and people. I say he's deserving of it, and I say that as a Scottish person who naturally grows to hate any player in the English team (past and present).
Due-Structure-6110@reddit
In my light research, I had found that Victoria Beckahm got awarded an OBE………for fashion.
I wonder how all the other talented British fashion designers felt about that.
Kirstemis@reddit
Many of them probably have awards too. But her clothes are very well-regarded in the fashion industry, and her global fame has brought more attention to British fashion.
Dazz316@reddit
Depends, again you get these things for doing other shit too. She would go to paris and do stuff too and her fame as a spice girl would have given her avenue's into places as a disgner others wouldn't so her work may have gone a lot further than others. Unfair advantage? Perhaps but results are results.
But I'm far far far from an expert on fasion so I can't say to much.
No_right_turn@reddit
There are various levels of recognition. Jane Smith would be eligible for several awards - British Empire Medal, MBE, and a few others which are designed to recognise impact on a local or regional level. Anyone can nominate someone to receive an honour if they can gather sufficient evidence of someone's impact.
As you go up the scale, the criteria reward the scale of someone's impact rather than the depth. Knighthoods, etc, are awarded for significant contributions on a national scale, which Jane Smith is unlikely to be able to make for reasons of reach and platform rather than intent.
That's why we tend to see celebrity knights - because to have a national or international impact, you essentially need to be pretty famous to start with.
Due-Structure-6110@reddit
Which of those is the highest honour?
Should it be like that?
No_right_turn@reddit
I'm not saying that our hypothetical Jane doesn't deserve recognition. But how many Janes are there? What makes one more worthy than another? Well you give them all awards, and what would those awards mean if you did?
An award, by definition, has to be for something way out of the ordinary. When it comes to the public nominations process (prime ministerial resignation honours are totally different and imo should be abolished) I guarantee you'll be amazed at the achievements.
OrangeSodaMoustache@reddit
In this example, Jane saving literally hundreds if not thousands of lives is surely a larger scale of charity/impact than a celeb doing a good job as a journalist for a few decades and working part-time for a hospice named after them in their 60s?
No_right_turn@reddit
You're talking about depth of impact, which is one thing. But I'm saying that the way the system is set up rewards scale, not depth. Jane might inspire a handful of people. How many might Sir Chris Hoy inspire? It's not comparable. I'd also refer back to my point that you're not generally allowed to get honours for just doing your job - you have to show that you've gone significantly above and beyond.
I'm not arguing in favour of the system - just pointing out that it is pretty consistent as well as pretty misunderstood.
Mysterious-Sock39@reddit
Most sport stars or actors wouldnt have one I'd give one to the person who created designed the Gov website
Historical-Car5553@reddit
Much too easy for sports stars to get honours these days.
Especially compared to Englands 1966 team and John Surtees - the only man ever to win both F1 and motorbike World Championships. A feat that will never be repeated and which should have got him a Knighthood before the passed away.
Historical-Car5553@reddit
Take all honours and Knighthoods away from politicians / political appointees
Plus all senior civil servants, CEOs etc that just get the titles for literally doing their jobs.
Should be people in more regular jobs, volunteers etc that get the recognition.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
I disagree on the civil servant point.
I think for many civil servants it's more than just a job to them, it's a dedication to public service that happens to be paid.
aurora_ethereallight@reddit
I'd quite like to see Ant and Dec knighted at some point in the future...
Worldly_Turnip7042@reddit
But only too one of them
Chungaroo22@reddit
Just give it to Stephen Mulhern since he kinda looks like both of them combined.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
My theory is that he's a failed clone of the entity known Antanddec, to be used as a back up in case one of them dies.
Except he escaped and to appease him they made him a host of lesser light entertainment shows for ITV2
Chungaroo22@reddit
Yes, they've clearly not perfected the Geodification process. Still a wonder of science though.
Sirico@reddit
Prob not the one who thinks drink driving is a good idea
Altruistic-Table5859@reddit
I'd take it from the likes of Alex Ferguson and Kenny Dalglish and any others who are enployed to do a job like manage a football team while becoming millionaires when doing so.
alrighttreacle11@reddit
Give Mr tumble
Take away mick jaggar
Dear_Tangerine444@reddit
Just Mr Tumble? What about that poor Justin fella doesn’t he get one too? He does all the work and Mr Tumble just sits at home sending him out to do all the work of visiting people to ask Mr tumble’s questions.
OpeningDealer1413@reddit
Takeaway from Mick Jagger? The greatest front man of all time in arguably the greatest British rock band of all time (along with The Beatles)? Why on earth haha. If Britain has anything to be proud of it’s our musical history and Mick is right at the forefront of that
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
My 4 year old is in full agreement here
Andagonism@reddit
I think Ozzy would reject it though
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Nah, he's said before he would like one
Andagonism@reddit
Fair enough.
You should look up how many rejected them
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I know famously David Bowie did
Curious_Peter@reddit
Give : David Beckham, He has obviously wanted and tried to get one for years. Time to give it to him,
Take away: David Beckham, Just so we can see him crying like he did in the 98 world cup.
Andagonism@reddit
Lmao
vadelmavenepakolaine@reddit
I was going to reply the exact same thing.
Mother_Ad7869@reddit
Take Tony Robinson's away and give it to Rowan Atkinson...no real reason, just for fun 🤗
J8YDG9RTT8N2TG74YS7A@reddit
I'd then take it from Rowan Atkinson and give it to James Acaster.
See how he likes it.
Andagonism@reddit
Then when asked about it, Rowan can say "Bean there, dont that"
GDH26@reddit
You made... Baldrick a lord
alancake@reddit
Sir, might I let loose a short, violent exclamation?
TheBuoyancyOfWater@reddit
DAMN!
itsfeckingfreezing@reddit
That would be hilarious, especially if Brooklyn got one.
Fluffy-Rhubarb9089@reddit
They both get knighthoods but they have to swap names.
StationFar6396@reddit
I would take them away from EVERYONE who made money doing the thing they were rewarded for doing.
ForeignSleet@reddit
Awful take, knighthoods by definition are not just awarded for charity activities (although they often are and rightly so) but they are awarded to someone who has made a significant contribution to their field
So by your reckoning we should take them away from Lewis Hamilton and Elton John and a lot of others that most definitely deserve it?
(I know Elton John got his partly for his charity work and partly for his music)
StationFar6396@reddit
Absolutely Hamilton and Elton John should lose their knighthoods. Money was their reward for their "contribution to their field"
Knighthoods should be for those who were selfless or who achieved something for the real benefit for our country or mankind. Not someone who drove a car really fast in a circle.
I know I will get downvoted for this, buy hey ho.
ForeignSleet@reddit
So what you want is to change the definition of what’s required for a knighthood? Because under the current definition I don’t know how anyone could say Lewis Hamilton doesn’t deserve one
QuailTechnical5143@reddit
Give to Merlin, take from The Green Knight.
That dude was a knob.
Sufficient-Star-1237@reddit
Lord Alan Sugar
Sitsey01@reddit
If the dead count: Sean lock, and would take one away from Jimmy Saville.
Round_Engineer8047@reddit
Give one to John Burkhill who tirelessly raises funds for Macmillan Cancer Support at the age of 86. He makes for an eccentric character in his green wig, pushing a decorated pram around Sheffield for 17 years. He raised £1m by 2023.
Staying with the Sheffield connection, take the one from Nick Clegg because he's a duplicitous, entirely self-interested, smarmy twat.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
I used to go to the same local as Cleggy (the Arab Boy in Putney), he's alright in my book.
Secret-Ice260@reddit
More Dames needed!
Admiral5057@reddit
Why in hell would Ozzy deserve a knighthood?
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
I think popular opinion of him is that he's a drug addled fool because of the Osbournes, so people forget that he released some truly revolutionary music (with Black Sabbath and solo).
He released several landmark albums that inspired whole new genres a whole generations of British bands.
When you look at what he's achieved across his career as a musician I'd argue he's just as influential on the British/global misuc scene as, say, Sir Ringo Starr or Sir Ray Davies
JustMMlurkingMM@reddit
The whole things should be scrapped to be honest. It’s ridiculous. To my mind if someone doesn’t spend their life wearing armour, waving a sword around and killing dragons they don’t deserve to be called a knight. We don’t call scientists wizards any more.
MiddleAgeCool@reddit
I disagree.
For all the celebs and politicians that get them, the ones that draw attention to the whole honour system, a whole host of people who truly deserve them but get little public recognition also receive them. To remove it from the ones who don't deserve it because they're famous already removes them for the people who truly appreciate them.
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
So you agree that the system is not performing its stated function, you just don't like the way they phrased it?
MiddleAgeCool@reddit
I agree there are plenty who don't deserve them, the ones who receive them because they are a popular sports person or popstar or politician but how do you change that so it's still as recognised as a high profile thing and yet a couple who opted not to have their own children but dedicate their lives to having multiple foster kids pass through their home feel special when they receive an OBE and collect it surrounded by those people?
BringBack5pFreddos@reddit
Give: whoever invented the co op sale and vinegar crisps
Remove: anyone associated with Cadbury, Mondelez, or anything to do with the inflation of Freddos
Terrabletypo_@reddit
The ones that dissolve all the skin inside your mouth? Yessssssss
JLaws23@reddit
Add the Tunnocks family for keeping Tea Cake prices reasonable 🙏
satriales123@reddit
Lol. Those S & V crisps are spectacular!
umognog@reddit
And the shrinking of multi-pack chocolates to not so fun size.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Relevant user name and one I take personally, as I (ahem) work for said company... Sorry
sedtamenveniunt@reddit
How is sharing a title with Jimmy Saville not a titanic insult in reality?
Ok_Chipmunk_7066@reddit
I would introduce a knighthood plus category, a bit like Twitter verified where all the posh twats that have bought their knighthoods get a separate name Knighthood+ (as an example).
I would then have a guillotine at the side of the stage and perform summary executions for all those people.
I would then slowly abolish this absolute nonsensical relic of twattery.
Grumblefloor@reddit
In other words, they'd be ... sur-plus to requirements?
FormerIntroduction23@reddit
Shouldn't we take the nighthood from Jimmy Saville...... I mean.....
AtebYngNghymraeg@reddit
He's dead. The knighthood died with him, so there's nothing to take.
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
Well I think it would mean a lot to a lot of people if we changed the process for this case.
AtebYngNghymraeg@reddit
Change it how? Reinstate the knighthood so it can be removed again? I'm not sure what part of this you think needs changing or how you propose to change it.
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
A process of removing shameful recipients from the list of Honours. To prevent the exact argument you've used, that there's "nothing to take". Leaving this dishonourable man's legacy as equal to those who were truly deserving, just because both parties died while holding them.
AtebYngNghymraeg@reddit
Seems like a waste of time to me. His name is already mud, and he's not around to feel any sense of shame from having a title stripped, so I can't see that you're achieving anything.
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
So which is it? A dangerous and volatile can of worms that must stay welded shut to protect us from the actions of people in the 61st Century?
Or an empty gesture that would "not mean anything", except to give some justice to the hundreds of victims of this monster, who are still alive to see you defend his legacy at their expense?
It can't be both critically important and a waste of time, so pick one of them, and then I'll dismantle it.
AtebYngNghymraeg@reddit
They're both considerations. If you care about honours then the latter might be important; if you don't, it's the former. Personally, I don't care. I think removing it posthumously is utterly pointless. Likewise, I couldn't care less if future governments want to strip honours from long-dead foes. As far as I'm concerned, the entire concept is an anachronism. If you feel strongly, raise it with your MP.
Wonderpants_uk@reddit
I thought they did?
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
Never knighted, had his CBE revoked though.
Azyall@reddit
They couldn't take it away because it ends at death.
Bael_thebard@reddit
Why would you want one?
GodOfThunder888@reddit
Looks good on your CV
Shitelark@reddit
So does Arial Narrow italic.
ReySpacefighter@reddit
Give: none.
Take: all of them. No more knights. Bin the whole system.
tatorillo@reddit
Limmy
-Xserco-@reddit
PRITI PATEL HAS A KNIGHTHOOD?! HOW?!
My answer:
Give - Gary Stevenson (not now, but in the coming years, absolutely. I won't explain further other than I genuinely believe he has made and will make the world a better place.)
Take - George W Bush. Terrorist. Not much more needs to be said.
Guiseppe_Martini@reddit
Jarv Blart
Swoosh33@reddit
Sir Arsene Wenger. For services to English football
crapusername47@reddit
Arsene is French and can’t receive an official one. He has an honorary OBE and received an Officer of the Legion of Honour, the equivalent of a knighthood, from his own government.
Shitelark@reddit
We give them out to Commonwealth types, why not one of our closest allies, especially as it was for work in the UK. We set the rules after all.
Hamsternoir@reddit
Give Brian Blessed
Take anyone Truss gave one to
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
He has an OBE already, just needs a promotion.
Shitelark@reddit
Sir SpongeRobert.
sneakyhopskotch@reddit
TIL Priti Patel has a knighthood. What on Earth for?
Objective-Seesaw-649@reddit
It was an 'Resignation Honour'. Which is fucking ridiculous!
Krakshotz@reddit
Being an arse-kisser, which is basically what the PM resignation’s honours list is all about
lonehorizons@reddit
Services to cruelty.
TheMeg495@reddit
Take Starmers away, he's an embarrassment
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
You should start with some other, more recent, more shameful prime minsiters, really.
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
Or even worse, the "honours" lists that they bestowed upon their cronies and benefactors. Bojo alone was responsible for Michael Fabricant/Rees Mogg and most of the people involved in Partygate getting honours.
white_hart_2@reddit
I believe he was one Director of Public Prosecutions. Not that he ever mentions it.
mcbeef89@reddit
He's a bit of a knob, but I think Jamie Oliver deserves a knighthood. He's done a lot of good
COYSMcCOYSFace@reddit
I’ll never forget the documentary he made about these school children who had it tough in life and maybe were not the best behaved, he helped a lot of them and it made me apply myself at school when I was perhaps a bit of a knob at school myself. Always has my respect even if I don’t agree with everything he does or says!
Legitimate_Corgi_981@reddit
I will never forget his face when he showed a bunch of kids how to make chicken nugget puree from all the skin and leftovers and then asked them to put a hand up if they would still eat it...and pretty much 100% did. That defeated little "......great..." in response.
KeyLog256@reddit
What good? The sugar tax is a regressive tax on low income families, with the added bonus of it making things more difficult for diabetics.
Not to mention it is fat-phobic.
FlapjackAndFuckers@reddit
Nobody is forcing parents to feed their kids fizzy crap from when they start crawling.
There is such a thing as personal responsibility ffs.
KeyLog256@reddit
Exactly my point. I see from the downvotes the fatphobes disagree, always good to see them backed into a corner!
PlatformFeeling8451@reddit
Yes, please don't mention that term when 30% of the UK is classed as obese.
Encouraging companies to reduce the sugar content of snacks and drinks will help people to live longer and reduce the cost/burden on the NHS. If you want to see what happens without the sugar tax, look at the serving size of a US coca cola in McDonalds vs the UK.
One of my best friends is in his late 30s and struggles to walk, he breathes so heavily when he does so that I genuinely worry that he's going to pass out. He has had so many health issues in the past few years, and they all stem from him being overweight. Those are his words, not mine.
You can throw out terms such as "fat-phobic" etc, but people are going to die young, and it's no use pretending otherwise. The government needs to step up even more, not pussyfoot around in case they offend people. They need to get in as early as possible, and while sugar is by no means the main cause of obesity (genetics, stress, insomnia, disability, poverty are bigger causes), it is certainly a contributing factor.
KeyLog256@reddit
Agreed entirely, 100% cannot fault anything you've said there.
But the idea of a sugar tax is "fat people are simply too stupid and lazy to do anything about it themselves, so we'll just price them out of unhealthy food" - and it has been proven not to work.
PlatformFeeling8451@reddit
That may be the narrative that some people have taken (usually the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" dickheads who love to have a go at obese people), but that isn't why the government did it.
The reason is simply to prevent the overuse of sugar in snacks and drinks. As I mentioned earlier, if you want to see what happens without a sugar tax, just look at America. Their food contains significantly more sugar, and people adjust their taste to it over time.
Like how a cup of tea with two sugars can taste great for someone and absolutely sickening to someone who has tea with one sugar.
And it IS working. A recent study found that since its implementation children consume 3g of sugar less per day from drinks, and adults consume 5.2g [1].
That's around 20 calories per day, or 7,300 calories per year. Which roughly equates to 1kg of body fat burned (7,700 calories).
And remember, this is just on average. Obese people would almost certainly see bigger drops in sugar per day than average, and more calories saved.
But its not so much about the calories saved per person, its the fact that people will adjust their tastes overtime, and change their habits.
As I mentioned before, sugar is not a main cause of obesity, but we need to approach it from multiple angles. A sugar tax is one of them, and it makes a meaningful contribution. But it won't do anything alone.
If we could also have initiatives to improve sleep quality, lower stress, and encourage walking more that would be fantastic. But these aren't as easily "fixed". You can't tax bad sleep, or stress. You can encourage walking more (and the NHS couch to 5K is a great example of that) but you can't make it law.
KxJlib@reddit
Well people were consuming ungodly amounts of sugar through pop, and it has worked: https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2024/expert-comment-sugar-tax-soft-drinks-shown-reduce-sugar-intake
glasgowgeg@reddit
He fucked over his staff when he closed his restaurants.
He's also responsible for basically every soft drink being shit now.
mcbeef89@reddit
I thought he pumped his own money into the business to try to keep it going? Something you should never do
No_Direction_4566@reddit
As a teenager I hated him for taking away the turkey twizzlers.
But as an adult, I can see the differences my kids have had with school meals compared to mine and can appreciate his work.
mcbeef89@reddit
He's used his fame for good since day one. Opening Fifteen and staffing it with 'troubled kids' was a stroke of business genius as well. Meant that restaurant critics went easy on him as you'd have to be a right bastard to slag off the food made by 'second chance' youths.
Shenloanne@reddit
Idk about a knighthood but I'd take away the peerage from Charlotte Owen and give it to David Tennant.
lozette69@reddit
Knighthoods are bullshit
Substantial_Steak723@reddit
Seriously, to prove a point as to what people can do, I'd give "just knate" youtuber over nevada way an award, or the international equivalent so that he may elevate his status and assistance schemes and legs up that he offers via backing from sources other than kindly folk who buy his line of clothing allowing him to help with more.
Take away? Bojo's leaving honours list of his office staff, y'know the covid party lot.
PleasantBusiness3116@reddit
Knighthood too ?
Take away Tony Blair immediately!!!
SpecificSinger9487@reddit
Alan Turing be a pretty good one
UltracrepidarianBoob@reddit
I would erase all knighthoods and dismantle the monarchy UNLESS
And
WolverineAdorable274@reddit
Give to Jeremy Clarkson remove from Chris Bryant
Honest-Ad-3937@reddit
Give to Rory Mcilroy, take from Jimmy Savile
InflatableSexBeast@reddit
I would give Billie Piper a Dame-hood and take a knighthood away from Laurence Fox.
Not that he has a knighthood, but him knowing he was less privileged than ordinary citizens by becoming the first ‘unknight’ - and knowing his ex was ennobled at the same time - would push him over the edge.
And it would be a truly great thing to watch.
Usual_Ladder_7113@reddit
Give one to Michael Clark
Obvious-Water569@reddit
No one. Because it's stupid.
Poisoned05@reddit
you’re fun aren’t you
wizards_of_the_cost@reddit
Some of the least "fun" people I know are people like you, who love to use that type of insult.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
No one's forcing you to answer🤣
ratbum@reddit
That was an answer.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Yes, an irrelevant one.
Obvious-Water569@reddit
I don't know how my answer could be any more relevant.
You asked who I think should get a thing. I said no one should get the thing.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Nah, it's not relevant in the slightest.
Obvious-Water569@reddit
OK then.
ratbum@reddit
B, a chipmunk would have an irrelevant answer. His was very relevant
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
No, it is irrelevant.
I'm the guy on a food stand asking if you want burgers or hot dogs.
You guys are the vegans coming and saying "umm, ackshually, meat is murder, so close down".
Ok, then this isn't for you, you could just walk past and not be annoying.
glasgowgeg@reddit
It's more akin to asking "Who do you want me to give a free burger to, and which of my customers over there do you want me to cancel the order of".
ratbum@reddit
See I think that’s highly relevant place for a vegan to protest.
Fred_Chopin@reddit
Nope.
ConfidentialX@reddit
Ash Dykes, an MBE at least. His world records include trekking solo & unsupported across Mongolia, hiking the length of Madagascar, and being the first person to walk along the full 4,000-mile (6,400-kilometre) course of the Yangtze, the longest river in Asia and smashing the old record.
Awesome dude. Wild stories too.
_Sad_Ken_@reddit
I'd take them all away. Down with monarchy
MoistSnow220@reddit
I would remove everyone's knighthood and abolish the honours system completely. Outdated crap based on privilege that we don't need.
DoctorOctagonapus@reddit
JRM can lose his knighthood. Never deserved it in the first place.
valleycroissant@reddit
Take away from Gareth Southgate. How on earth he managed to get one is beyond me, squandered two opportunities to win England a trophy despite having a squad full of generational talents. If anything, he should be a social pariah rather than knighted.
Difficult_Coffee_510@reddit
It's an OBE but the guy from ladbible who used to be a gangster. He made a living off of selling drugs, violent crime and he murdered people including atleast one innocent victim. Fuck sake, he had a special connection with a sawn off shotgun!
Yet he gets an OBE? Clown world. Guys a scumbag idc if he has a nice English accent and is polite.
MathematicianOnly688@reddit
I would cancel all honours and shut the whole thing down.
It's an anachronism and has been corrupted by politicians for decades now if not longer.
eroticdiscourse@reddit
Rowan Atkinson
Hardcore_Gentleness@reddit
Give: Tim Curry
Take: Pick one!
glasstumblet@reddit
Give someone who has founded a hospice or charity that actually helps people and take it away from those who don't contribute meaningfully.
CicadaEffective113@reddit
Give Wiley back his!
TazzTamoko77@reddit
I would give one to Prof Noel Fitzpatrick the super vet, I tried to get one for Ronnie Barker & remove from Jimmy Saville & Philip Green 🙏🙏😔😔
Lucky_Ad_9137@reddit
Noel Fitzpatrick has sold his sould to the advertising market.
lonehorizons@reddit
As someone else said here, a knighthood “ends” when the person dies, so Saville technically lost his when he died.
R00ts_Dreamland@reddit
The supervet who inspired Toxic by Britney Spears. Yes!
Lucky_Ad_9137@reddit
Take them away from everyone who has one. Give one to nobody.
diljeetg07@reddit
Priti Patel has a knighthood?!?!? Didn’t know services to fascism warranted a peerage. Agree with taking hers away and giving one to Martin Lewis for all the people he helps financially week in week out.
StargazerAlly@reddit
Give to Kevin Sinfield. The amount of money and awareness he has raised for MND is incredible. A genuinely nice guy with a huge heart!
Take from any politician!
Wonderpants_uk@reddit
I’d take the Damehood away from Andrew Jenkyns. Giving it to some random homeless person on the street instead could only be an improvement.
lonehorizons@reddit
The woman who put a cat in a wheelie bin deserves one more than her :D
Extension_Ad4492@reddit
After Sir Fred Goodwin lost his, i felt the need to recognise my spaniel, Fred, as a very good boy and knighted him that evening.
I miss that dog.
gr1msh33p3r@reddit
My Cocker is called Freddie 🥰
No_Square_1807@reddit
That's a bit personal,but ok. Do you have a dog?
gr1msh33p3r@reddit
🤣
highlandharris@reddit
Let's have a special spaneil knighthood
BaldBehemoth@reddit
Give to Peter Kay Take away Kier Starmers
Mrs_B-@reddit
Give - Roger Taylor (Queen) Take - pretty much any politician nominated by an outgoing PM.
Ok-Suspect-9595@reddit
Give Dolly Parton an honorary Damehood
Take, all honors given to the last goverment.
rh8938@reddit
John Simpson, spent over fifty years at the BBC, in a career of public information
scalectrix@reddit
Give: Jon Stewart (yes I know he's not allowed but just imagine how annoyed it would make the Rabid Right!!)
Take: Michelle Mone - trash parasite.
Mindless-Lobster-920@reddit
I'd give one to Ross Edgley. His sporting achievements are quite frankly ridiculous and he does all of them to raise money for charities.
Kid_from_Europe@reddit
Give one to Eddie Howe, take one away from Sadiq Khan.
OMG-BITCHTITS@reddit
Jeremy wade
Dolgar01@reddit
Why pick? Instigate a rule of ‘one in, one out’ and bring back jousting.
If Priti wants to keep her knighthood, she has to defend it on horseback.
Decent-Chipmunk-5437@reddit (OP)
Priti Patel has to joust Ozzy Osbourne for it?
As much as I'd love to see Ozzy skewer her, he's unfortunately going down in that fight.
Dolgar01@reddit
True. But then it doesn’t have to be Ozzy. Anyone who wants the knighthood can have a go at her.
Or any other knights for that matter. It’s a great way to lower the average age 😂
Aggravating_Piano_29@reddit
Ozzy osbourne and Kevin sinfield, take from Rees-mugg and priti Patel.
MajesticCare9985@reddit
I would strip the knighthood from Jimmy Savile and give one to Paul O'Grady.
No-Meeting-7955@reddit
Give one to Les Ferdinand - he’s already known as Sir Les - may as well make it official.
Take Bob Geldoffs off him,
ItsRebus@reddit
Geldof's is only an honorary one anyway since he is an Irish citizen.
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FrankyFistalot@reddit
Knighthood for Bob Paisley (legend Liverpool manager who won shit loads) and take a knighthood away from Gareth Southgate because he hasn’t won anything and he starred in a pizza ad because he can’t take penalties.
deathmetalbestmetal@reddit
But Bob Paisley has been dead for two decades.
gr1msh33p3r@reddit
Midge Ure for his Band Aid work.
No_Atmosphere8146@reddit
Band Aid was just the Gal Gadot singing Imagine of the 80s.
LevDavidovicLandau@reddit
Then take it away just for reversing his name from Jim to Midge.
cator_and_bliss@reddit
Tell him he can either be Sir Jim or Ris Midge. Up to him.
HedgehogEquivalent38@reddit
Midge Ure, just for being Midge Ure.
ExcellentEnergy6677@reddit
Give: Roman Atkinson
Take: Sadiq Khan
sbaldrick33@reddit
Give: Tom Baker
Take: How long have you got?
SlightlyFarcical@reddit
I'll refer to Benjamin Zephaniah with respects to this question
OkTechnician4610@reddit
No one should get it …. Out dated tripe. Same for the other awards.
HarB_Games@reddit
I'd give one to Steve Backshall. He's a national treasure, an absolutely amazing bloke that cares so much about protecting our planet.
David Attenborough having his stripped would be hilarious to watch, the guy is untouchable, he has transcended celebrity status and is now a deity. The public fallout from him having his Knighthood taken away would be astonishing.
TalynRahl@reddit
The Chuckle Brothers. For services to me, to you, to me, to you.
Seriously though, Sir Louis Theroux is all but requires. For being one of the best investigative journalists we have, that is also somehow a rapper of sorts.
AlfredApples@reddit
Give: Nigel Blackwell from Half Man Half Biscuit
Services to humour and music.
tartanthing@reddit
Nobody
Take from everyone as well as all other inherited titles.
ubiquitousuk@reddit
I just don't think they should be awards for being good at what you do, for doing your job, or for being famous. Half the list are sports starts, TV personalities, and ex politicians. Congratulations: you got a well-paid job and weren't completely shit at it.
For a knighthood, the bar should be high, include a strong element of selflessness, and require significant contributions for which alternative forms of reward (e.g., salary for your job or gold medals) don't exist.
BreakfastLopsided906@reddit
I’d like to give one to Jimmy Carr.
Although, Sir Jimmy has been slightly tainted.
pencilrain99@reddit
Give it someone that would willing to lead the troops into battle.
Take it off anyone who wasn't willing to lead troops into battle (so most of them are losing the title)
Obvious-Ad448@reddit
Honestly, looking at the top posts here, I'd follow Neil Buchanan into battle
Radiant_Incident4718@reddit
I'd follow him into an art attack
Obvious-Ad448@reddit
The camera pans up over a field of poppies. General Buchanan stands, his arms outstretched, a silent plea to any god that might be listening. As the mist over the old battleground clears, the sea of red coalesces into a crude collage of an artillery piece, and Neil begins a weep, a broken man.
ExiledWiganer@reddit
Give - Martin Lewis.
Take away - David Jason, obviously
KeyLog256@reddit
If the Reddit rumour is right (and for various reasons I don't think it is) then the latter will probably lose his posthumously anyway.
Azyall@reddit
All knighthoods are lost posthumously because they end at death. But J know what you mean.
Important_Ruin@reddit
Me, because would be cool to be addressed as Sir.
Would like to remove a few Lords though and hiderity peerages.
Bizzle_B@reddit
There's probably someone in this country right now who has done more for their community than everyone in parliament combined, but they're poor or an immigrant so their labour is invisible and I've never heard of them, I'd give it to them.
I'd take it away from most of them probably.
Duck_Person1@reddit
Jeremy Clarkson for bringing awareness to farmers. There might be more deserving people but they could get a knighthood anyway. No one in the government is brave enough to praise Clarkson.
Theo_Cherry@reddit
Lily Philips
ExtensionNo9200@reddit
I'd give one to Piers Morgan after publicly stripping Sir David Attenborough of his, just to watch the world burn 🔥
Toffeemade@reddit
Without wanting to rain on anyone's parade can I politely suggest we just dispense with the honours system entirely? As a symbol of patronage, preferment, hierarchy and the unaccountable, unelected and illegitimate exercise of power it symbolises some of the worst things about this country.
PalicoHunter@reddit
I’d love to see the Top Gear trio with a knighthood although I don’t suppose they would really be bothered. The joy they brought to our screens for 20 years is staggering and they continue to do so today through other projects.
Unsure who I would take one from, no doubt there’s many candidates.
RugbyEdd@reddit
Me, and then upon reflection, me.
another_online_idiot@reddit
I would Knight (posthumously) Christopher Hitchens. Possibly the greatest philosophical thinker and religious/humanist commentator of the 20th Century.
Imaginative_Name_No@reddit
I would give one to nobody and take them away from everyone. It's an absurdity for people in the 21st century to be running around calling themselves knights
Antdd44@reddit
Kevin Sinfield, the amount of money he has raised for MND by doing ridiculously hard tasks (multiple 7 marathons in 7 days)over the last few years. An absolute champion rugby player on and off the field, captain and role model. People have been calling for years for him to officially be Sir Kevin Sinfield but it doesn’t seem like it’s going to happen
Calm-Glove3141@reddit
I’d take away Stephen fry’s and I would give it to Chester p
ZakFellows@reddit
Piers Morgan and make it the first Knighting that uses a chainsaw
geordieooosha69@reddit
I'd take away Sadiq Khan's and give a knighthood to Kevin Seinfield.
Minute_Phrase5749@reddit
Bez
keysageeza@reddit
Give to -Clarkson
Take away-sadiq
daznccc@reddit
Give Kevin Sinfield
Take Sadiq Khan
ultraboomkin@reddit
Martin Lewis
ToePsychological8709@reddit
Give - Gary Glitter
Take away - Tony Blair
bioticspacewizard@reddit
No one. I would abolish the monarchy instead.
Semi-On-Chardonnay@reddit
Knighthoods and other honours are increasingly meaningless. Rescind them all and stop bothering.
WorhummerWoy@reddit
I'd give myself a knighthood then take it away.
I'd be in the papers twice
Count-Pendragon@reddit
Take Sadiq Khan, that's for sure.
anon1992lol@reddit
I’d give one to me. I feel financially I could do with a status boost.
I’d take one away from David Attenborough. Absolutely nothing against him, but I think taking his away would cause the biggest meltdown and I want to watch the world burn.
Cowsudders@reddit
€219 you can become a Knight or Dame: https://www.royaltitles.net/sir-and-dame-titles/
teerbigear@reddit
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Grand-Dukedom-of-Pomerania-and-Livonia-or-their-titles-legit
summerofgeorge123@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCure/s/qUMGvPzqAx
Low_Spread9760@reddit
Give one to that older bloke who cycles around Moss Side and Manchester City Centre with a speaker blasting out reggae tunes, if he’s still going. He never failed to make me smile.
RitchieSac@reddit
Ban them all.
Drewski811@reddit
Anybody who you think is worthy of one; https://www.gov.uk/honours
jacspe@reddit
Give - Bob Mortimer, Sean Lock.
Remove - Tony Blair, Kier Starmer.
Lowermains@reddit
GTF,these creeps have no business being in this country
hoganpaul@reddit
I'd quite like one.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Nobody I think outside of giving it to people who have gone above and beyond for little material wealth deserve awards famous people getting awards for riding a bike or kicking a ball or punching someone or playing pretend for years is silly to me
scubaian@reddit
I was going to say Herbie Flowers but it turns out he died last year. I think of him every time I hear walk on the wild side.
nicholas_5@reddit
Accepting a knighthood is to accept subservience to a #NonceEnabler.
Our king & now dead queen paid off the royal nonces teen rape victim Virginia Giuffre to the tune of 13million keeping her silent and keep Andrew on the streets.
Now tell me why anybody would accept a knighthood from that?
cybertonto72@reddit
Take it away from all of them. Stupid thing that should of been scrapped a long time ago. Same for the house of lords.
Little_Werewolf6094@reddit
New Zealand scrapped it, but a shitty PM brought it back because he wanted one
Jesssca@reddit
David attenbomb, Louis Theroux
cybertonto72@reddit
Take it away from all of them. Stupid thing that should have been scrapped a long time ago. Same for the house of lords.
Crittsy@reddit
Give - Noddy Holder
Take - Philip Greene
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