It's funny because for being a random guy, Yasuke has had a surge in appearances in Japanese media over the past few years, from appearing in games such as Nioh, Samurai Warriors, even inspiring the main new character in the Guilty Gear franchise, to even getting his own Anime.
Also a video game about Aglovale and his son Sir Morian would go absolutely hard so this meme doesn't make any sense.
Yasuke has had a surge in appearances in Japanese media over the past few years, from appearing in games such as Nioh, Samurai Warriors, inspiring the main new character in the Guilty Gear franchise,
That really doesnt mean anything any somewhat famous person will appear in a myriad of Japanese media. Nikola Tesla appears in Reincarnation no Kaben, Fate and Records of Ragnarok for example.
to even getting his own Anime.
A show written by an American for Netflix. They got a Japanese studio to animate it but that's just a matter of price
Dont pretend Yasuke is some super popular character in Japan
I understand that this is the internet and taking people at their word is an impossible task for most people.
But you realize absolutely nothing you said had any bearings on anything I was saying, right?
It does? If someone argued that Tesla in media is an insult to Japanese people, I'd point to those examples as a counter, assuming he's depicted positively in those examples.
Also written and directed by Japanese people, Takeru Satō and Satoshi Okunishi, which I just pulled from Wikipedia.
Yasuke isn't some super popular character in Japan, he's not a character at all. He's a niche historical figure in Japanese history that has inspired several depictions in modern times, the latest of which is AC Shadows, there's no major controversy to be had here unless you're a moron who just waits to be told what they should be angry about.
But you realize absolutely nothing you said had any bearings on anything I was saying, right?
It does? If someone argued that Tesla in media is an insult to Japanese people, I'd point to those examples as a counter, assuming he's depicted positively in those examples.
Are you just making up your own arguements here? You realise im not saying Yasuke or Tesla is an insult to Japanese ppl. I'm saying Yasuke isnt as popular in Japan as your earlier comment implied.
directed by Japanese people, Takeru Satō
It's a Mappa animation the director comes with the studio. My point is if it werent for Netflix money and western demand there would be no Yasuke anime. ie as I was saying before Yasuke isnt as popular in Japan as your earlier comment implied.
written by Japanese people, and Satoshi Okunishi
The manga adapatation of the anime. It's pretty common for anime original shows to get a manga adaption. A lot of the time theyre pretty much just fancy advertisements for the anime.
Yasuke isn't some super popular character in Japan, he's not a character at all. He's a niche historical figure in Japanese history that has inspired several depictions in modern times
He's neither a super popular historical figure in Japan nor has he ever been a super popular character in Japanese media.
My entire point is that Yasuke's depiction in AC Shadows is not anything new to Japanese people nor is it a particularly unique depiction.
You're pretending like I'm arguing that he's some sort of major cultural icon in Japan because you can't seem to engage in this conversation in an honest manner.
This is a statement of fact. You drew an opinion on it but that doesn't change the statement of fact nor does it imply that the people who say it have the same opinion as you.
You understand the difference between fact and opinion, right?
"Same way youre trying to imply Im racist. Stop pretending"
I have yet to accuse you of anything except arguing dishonestly, your conclusions that you have drawn are your own.
When I state a fact its a fact and has 0 opinion attached.
When you state a fact it's cuz youre a dogwhistling racist.
Ok bud
Also you edited it so I didnt have a chance to respond earlier.
"The Yasuke Anime was made by an American, they just used Japanese animation because it was cheap."
First of all when did I say it was cheap. But Japanes studios are just cheaper on average, but most likely they wanted a certain aesthetic.
"Sure the Chief Director was Japanese, but that's because it was rolled in with the studio, which is actually one of the most famous Anime studios in Japan."
Yeah the anime went into development back in 2018 when Mappa was still a nobody and JJK still wasnt out yet. Also the same studio infamous for taking pretty much any job.
"Sure the writer for the manga was Japanese, but that's just extra marketing".
The manga's just an adapation of the anime its aready written.
For the record I was calling you a moron who waits around to be told what to be angry about.
Since you're not good on implications, I guess I just have to tell you.
But ultimately if you've got other problems you want to air out, just say so. Ultimately you're not even responding to my main point anymore, I'm not really interested in discussing Anime development.
ultimately if you've got other problems you want to air out, just say so.
Yasuke isn't even popular in Japan
Ultimately you're not even responding to my main point anymore,
Yasuke isn't even popular in Japan. This and Japanese media (mainly anime) is literally the only point I care about.
I'm not really interested in discussing Anime development.
For the record western writer with Japanese Director and Japanese studios is pretty common they did it with Cyberpunk, Super Crooks and Terminators. You were clearly reaching here
Are you currently in that weird feedback loop that AIs have where they continue to repeat the same things over and over again because they're at the end of their training data?
It’s literally the only point I cared about and the only point I addressed just cuz I’m not like you and pretend to be be an expert on things I don’t know shit about
Then I recommend that in future cases, I'd read the things people actually say and respond to that, instead of wasting everyone's time because an observation someone said in service of a different point might be construed used to make another one that you have a problem with.
And all this about wasting time and calling me a moron but I a dude spending all this time on a topic they don’t know shit about then try to cover that by saying they aren’t interested in said topic.
That's not what popularity means. All he is saying is that Yasuke is a person who is appearing more in Japanese media over the years, so they clearly don't mind aren't offened by him. Not that he is a super popular character.
No he doesn’t he just being a pedantic little bitch about Yusuke being a historical figure not a character even though even Japanese media depiction of him is essentially a character
The joke is that he is a white guy in subsaharan Africa in Middle Ages which is rare. Assassins creed premise is based on a technology that lets you go back in time based on your ancestral dna, thus requiring a white guy to be in Africa if you are a white guy.
I don't get either side of this argument, I think you're both dumb, but what he's saying about you being racist is that you noticed the cover art was sub-saharan Africa, hence the prominent savanna, and you're trying to use redditor arguments against people that are more terminally online and brainrotted than yourself.
However, the instant response from you parroting what the other said about being racist makes you look more suspect. You can still be firm while asking what about your statement was racist, but a response that tries to frame the other person as racist is the worst possible choice. It's the kind of move in chess that is a blunder so substantial, you put yourself into checkmate.
Greenland is definitely North America though. It's culturally tied to Europe but that doesn't really matter, I mean Australia is culturally tied to China now but that doesn't make it Asia
You are so right! Yasuke was actually a real guy while Ezio was not. How disrespectful of Ubisoft to make up an Italian guy and use him as the main character of a game that takes place in Istanbul.
That’s actually the point, this is the first game that they tried to claim to have some historical accuracy to, and Yasuke being a big samurai figure isn’t historically accurate. They should have stuck to historical fiction like they had been.
Yet they went out of their way to, unlike in previous games, include and advertise a real historical figure for the player to play as. What I'm saying is they oversold how much real history this entry is using compared to previous entries.
They really didn't. They said you'll play as Yasuke, who is a historical figure, and since there isn't a lot about him(and he is an outsider), he makes an interesting character to write about.
No you just have zero understanding of history or geography clearly. Plenty of Italians would be in Istanbul (Constantinople) as it used to be part of the Roman Empire and it’s quite close to Italy compared to Africa vs Japan. Not the same thing at all
Can someone who’s actually played this game and isn’t just a pissy little bitch cause they can’t handle seeing a black person in a mainstream video game tell me how it actually is?
Yeah, it was a like day 1 or 2 patch to make things in shrines none breakable. And last I played you still could climb gates, but that might have changed too.
might be because ac2 wasnt marketed as being historically accurate whike ac shadows was marketed as being so historically accurate that anyone who ever questioned it was a racist and a bigot
Honestly not much, it just definitely goes against the "it's only anime fans which complain" take
But then again Japanese are way more conservative and care a bit more about portrayal of some things in media, it might matter to them a lot more. I wouldn't know enough tho since I'm not Japanese.
Well they’ve also been subject to a growing number of people coming over to be nuisances, so the Japanese government had to call the game “tourism poison” since it might inspire ill-intentioned travelers to destroy their religious sites and objects because they’ve seen it in a video game. To your point, people weren’t as stupid when it came to separating video games from reality back when AC2 came out, but it also has to do with the fact that Japanese culture is usually more hands off and self enforcing through norms and morals, whereas trying to fistfight the pope nowadays would get you beaten by his guards. You’re expected to be courteous in Japan and you’re treated as such, approaching a person of power will put you in the crosshairs for a beat down regardless of your intentions.
Meanwhile in Assassins Creed Valhalla, you can run screaming into a church, murder a guy next to the altar, steal all its tableware and run out again blowing a warhorn.
Yes, and any Christian clergy who get upset about such things get told "calm down" and "it's just a game" and "you guys are no fun this is why no one likes you".
I had a pretty good laugh when the in game message popped up "help preserve the sanctity of Shinto gates by not climbing on them" immediately followed by the prompt to use the grappling hook on one
Which I mean, fair enough tbh? Even if it has a lore or gameplay reason it's still a bit of a dick move. It's like having a gunfight in a church in a shooter game
“I fear that allowing players to attack and destroy real-world locations in the game without permission could encourage similar behavior in real life. Shrine officials and local residents are also worried about this. Of course, freedom of expression must be respected, but acts that demean local cultures should be avoided.”
They only cared about potential tourists coming and destroying or disrespecting shrines. And Ubisoft immediately patched it so you can’t climb on or destroy shrines. Nothing to do with the actual game or characters. This comment leaves out so much context
Here's IGN doing damage control too for good measure https://www.ign.com/articles/the-prime-minister-of-japan-responded-to-a-question-about-assassins-creed-shadows-today-heres-whats-actually-going-on
And there's a lot of uplaying because people used these comments to suggest AC shadows was gonna be banned in Japan when the government didn't end up doing anything.
what a bunch of pussies honestly. I remember when CnC Generals was banned in China because they portrayed a terrorist attack in the first China mission and that was bad because... because.
As far as I know there was a guy interviewing Japanese people on youtube and asked them they're thoughts and most of them said they don't really care about Yasuke being in the game or didn't know about the drama.
One Japanese guy Hideki Kamiya the creator of dmc and bayonetta said being mad at the game is stupid and no normal japanese person would care about the game but got called a race traitor by western people.
Don't you think that might have something to do with the fact that the only thing you do is browse western weeb boards and that you don't speak japanese? It's honestly impressive that the thought didn't even cross your mind.
From what i know, The common japanese man often vents his frustration and expresses his opinions on obscure japanese forums that are completely unknown in the west, rather than twitter and shit.
It’s not, it was a Ubislop deceptive wording. It was “best selling” at a timeframe of just two days not at “all time”, evidently they even stopped updating after claiming 3 million players, which means game haven’t even hit 4 million players because 2 million out of 3 were already Ubisoft+ subscribers trying a game out for free. This game sold like trash and it was reflected in all traceable metrics like Steam players and Ubisoft stock price.
Ok, and? It is “top of March sales” what other AAA games it was competing with? Being a top of a one man race is not an achievement… It did not outsell Schedule 1(a one guy dev indie game), it did not outsell MH( an actual AAA competitor), it will not outsell Oblivion remake(a mere AA competitor). All of this despite ACS having 3-100x times the budget of these games. They were actively reporting every million players milestone until 4 million because even with their subscription that offers the game for FREE there were not even 4 million total players of this pay-to-win single game disaster… Your deceptive yellow journalism articles will not salvage the reputation of this shit, we have trackable data for this game, Steam data shows it have not even manage to sell 600k copies on the biggest PC platform, and it all is reflected in the Ubisoft stock that has been nosediving since game released…
no you need to play shoot em ups from 2005 and xbox 360 games with 100 units sold to have fun. a youtube shorts i watched said modern gaming is dead which means anyone playing a triple A game and says they are having fun is lying and likely russian bot
and salmon sashimi was introduced by the norwegian, due to their excessive amount of salmon that is clean from parasite and Japan is a heavy fish consumption country.
Steam is actually pretty lenient with their refund policy. You can actually explain tht the game has 2 hours of cutscenes and they'll probably get you your refund. I once got a refund on a game bundle 4 months after the purchase because I was getting chokeslammed by schoolwork and had no time to actually file on time
If you gonna skip cutscenes then why even bother with AC Shadows, just pick up/replay Ghost of Tsushima
The only reason one would play the new Assassin's Creed is if they were still invested in the story and lore of the series - how would anyone be at this point, when creators have no idea how to build a coherent universe, is beyond me but that's beside the point
All modern games made by trash companies are made in a way that throws the best it has at you in the first 2 hours, so you don’t refund, only to have it’s content get a bit more sparse for the next 3-4 hours, until video game “journalists” make their 10/10 reviews, and then the rest of the content, which is also the majority of the game, is dogshit. Of course the ration of content to the first few hours will vary across companies and games, but the principle is always the same.
crisbybapies69@reddit
If I play for more than 2 hours I just put that the game runs poorly and it always gets refunded
BunnyKnotMelt@reddit
Joelblaze@reddit
It's funny because for being a random guy, Yasuke has had a surge in appearances in Japanese media over the past few years, from appearing in games such as Nioh, Samurai Warriors, even inspiring the main new character in the Guilty Gear franchise, to even getting his own Anime.
Also a video game about Aglovale and his son Sir Morian would go absolutely hard so this meme doesn't make any sense.
moragdong@reddit
I think yasuke totally fits the game, they juat didnt do anything interesting with him imo.
Ubisoft cant write interesting characters in general
LasyKuuga@reddit
That really doesnt mean anything any somewhat famous person will appear in a myriad of Japanese media. Nikola Tesla appears in Reincarnation no Kaben, Fate and Records of Ragnarok for example.
A show written by an American for Netflix. They got a Japanese studio to animate it but that's just a matter of price
Dont pretend Yasuke is some super popular character in Japan
Joelblaze@reddit
I understand that this is the internet and taking people at their word is an impossible task for most people.
But you realize absolutely nothing you said had any bearings on anything I was saying, right?
It does? If someone argued that Tesla in media is an insult to Japanese people, I'd point to those examples as a counter, assuming he's depicted positively in those examples.
Also written and directed by Japanese people, Takeru Satō and Satoshi Okunishi, which I just pulled from Wikipedia.
Yasuke isn't some super popular character in Japan, he's not a character at all. He's a niche historical figure in Japanese history that has inspired several depictions in modern times, the latest of which is AC Shadows, there's no major controversy to be had here unless you're a moron who just waits to be told what they should be angry about.
LasyKuuga@reddit
Are you just making up your own arguements here? You realise im not saying Yasuke or Tesla is an insult to Japanese ppl. I'm saying Yasuke isnt as popular in Japan as your earlier comment implied.
It's a Mappa animation the director comes with the studio. My point is if it werent for Netflix money and western demand there would be no Yasuke anime. ie as I was saying before Yasuke isnt as popular in Japan as your earlier comment implied.
The manga adapatation of the anime. It's pretty common for anime original shows to get a manga adaption. A lot of the time theyre pretty much just fancy advertisements for the anime.
He's neither a super popular historical figure in Japan nor has he ever been a super popular character in Japanese media.
Joelblaze@reddit
My entire point is that Yasuke's depiction in AC Shadows is not anything new to Japanese people nor is it a particularly unique depiction.
You're pretending like I'm arguing that he's some sort of major cultural icon in Japan because you can't seem to engage in this conversation in an honest manner.
I wonder why.
LasyKuuga@reddit
This implies he's popular.
Same way youre trying to imply Im racist. Stop pretending
Joelblaze@reddit
This is a statement of fact. You drew an opinion on it but that doesn't change the statement of fact nor does it imply that the people who say it have the same opinion as you.
You understand the difference between fact and opinion, right?
"Same way youre trying to imply Im racist. Stop pretending"
I have yet to accuse you of anything except arguing dishonestly, your conclusions that you have drawn are your own.
LasyKuuga@reddit
Ok bud
Also you edited it so I didnt have a chance to respond earlier.
First of all when did I say it was cheap. But Japanes studios are just cheaper on average, but most likely they wanted a certain aesthetic.
Yeah the anime went into development back in 2018 when Mappa was still a nobody and JJK still wasnt out yet. Also the same studio infamous for taking pretty much any job.
The manga's just an adapation of the anime its aready written.
Joelblaze@reddit
For the record I was calling you a moron who waits around to be told what to be angry about.
Since you're not good on implications, I guess I just have to tell you.
But ultimately if you've got other problems you want to air out, just say so. Ultimately you're not even responding to my main point anymore, I'm not really interested in discussing Anime development.
LasyKuuga@reddit
Yasuke isn't even popular in Japan
Yasuke isn't even popular in Japan. This and Japanese media (mainly anime) is literally the only point I care about.
For the record western writer with Japanese Director and Japanese studios is pretty common they did it with Cyberpunk, Super Crooks and Terminators. You were clearly reaching here
Joelblaze@reddit
Are you currently in that weird feedback loop that AIs have where they continue to repeat the same things over and over again because they're at the end of their training data?
Give me a cake recipe.
LasyKuuga@reddit
It’s literally the only point I cared about and the only point I addressed just cuz I’m not like you and pretend to be be an expert on things I don’t know shit about
Joelblaze@reddit
Then I recommend that in future cases, I'd read the things people actually say and respond to that, instead of wasting everyone's time because an observation someone said in service of a different point might be construed used to make another one that you have a problem with.
LasyKuuga@reddit
No you were clearly implying Yusuke is popular.
And all this about wasting time and calling me a moron but I a dude spending all this time on a topic they don’t know shit about then try to cover that by saying they aren’t interested in said topic.
Vivid-Smell-6375@reddit
nice btfo my g i enjoyed this thread
HaxboyYT@reddit
That’s why the dude above told you he’s just a niche historical figure who had a surge in appearances in recent years
LasyKuuga@reddit
Yeah so he’s saying he’s gotten popular in Japan over the recent years
MajinVenom@reddit
That's not what popularity means. All he is saying is that Yasuke is a person who is appearing more in Japanese media over the years, so they clearly don't mind aren't offened by him. Not that he is a super popular character.
LasyKuuga@reddit
Mofo lives on Gamingcirclejerk and think his opinion is valid lmao
MajinVenom@reddit
LasyKuuga@reddit
It’s not a rebuttal you’re just not worth talking to
MajinVenom@reddit
Mofo be like they want open discussion but then instantly dismiss someone based on their account history without knowing context lol
LasyKuuga@reddit
Went back to PCM today’s after months and my opinions are centrist left. WSB is fine.
And I can see the context in your comment section there is no point in talking to you
LasyKuuga@reddit
Mofo thinks im getting paid to educate mental patients entrenched in their beliefs and like I said we’re done
MajinVenom@reddit
You are not good at this whole reading thing. But you're right. I don't need to deal with the mentality I'll.
HaxboyYT@reddit
He quite literally says that Yasuke isn’t super popular, he’s just had a lot of appearances in media relatively recently
LasyKuuga@reddit
No he doesn’t he just being a pedantic little bitch about Yusuke being a historical figure not a character even though even Japanese media depiction of him is essentially a character
EpicIshmael@reddit
He's been depicted in media since the 60's in japan? Nobody outside Japanese incels give a shit.
slasher1337@reddit
There already is an assassins creed set in africa
BothWaysItGoes@reddit
Yeah, right, because MENA and sub-Saharan Africa are totally similar
slasher1337@reddit
They did not specify where in africa. They just said africa. North africa is still africa
AlphaPhill@reddit
To be fair, north Africa and Sub-Saharan Africa are so culturally distinct, it's like saying the middle east and east Asia are the same.
BothWaysItGoes@reddit
You can take a cue from the image…
SalvationSycamore@reddit
The image shows a white guy, I, think you can find those anywhere in Africa
BothWaysItGoes@reddit
The joke is that he is a white guy in subsaharan Africa in Middle Ages which is rare. Assassins creed premise is based on a technology that lets you go back in time based on your ancestral dna, thus requiring a white guy to be in Africa if you are a white guy.
Brilliant-Mountain57@reddit
I don't think you realize not everyone is as racist as you are
BothWaysItGoes@reddit
What? Not everyone is as racist as you are. You have to be really racist to find anything racist in what I said.
ReikaTheGlaceon@reddit
I don't get either side of this argument, I think you're both dumb, but what he's saying about you being racist is that you noticed the cover art was sub-saharan Africa, hence the prominent savanna, and you're trying to use redditor arguments against people that are more terminally online and brainrotted than yourself.
However, the instant response from you parroting what the other said about being racist makes you look more suspect. You can still be firm while asking what about your statement was racist, but a response that tries to frame the other person as racist is the worst possible choice. It's the kind of move in chess that is a blunder so substantial, you put yourself into checkmate.
BothWaysItGoes@reddit
Bruh
Throwaway_5829583@reddit
What an astute reply.
Sercotani@reddit
Dogwhistling regard.
Testing_things_out@reddit
Egypt is in the NA of MENA. Just say North Africa.
yomamasokafka@reddit
Sub Sahara? North of Sahara is Barbary coast it’s like saying Greenland is North America.
GoddHowardBethesda@reddit
Hate to break it to you but
It takes place in the Sahara desert.
Because it's Egypt. Which is, a part of Africa.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
Greenland is definitely North America though. It's culturally tied to Europe but that doesn't really matter, I mean Australia is culturally tied to China now but that doesn't make it Asia
dincosire@reddit
So technically true but not what people mean in casual conversation?
xxDzieciol@reddit
which one?
Old_Man_Stan324@reddit
The one in Egypt
slasher1337@reddit
Origins
Rob_Croissant@reddit
So fckn true
Adipay@reddit
Kind of like playing as an Italian guy in Istanbul right?
Super_Saiyan_Sudoku@reddit
Tbf there was a Venetian quarter in Constantinople in the 16th Century
TheArsenal7@reddit
Uh no not even close to the same thing
Adipay@reddit
You are so right! Yasuke was actually a real guy while Ezio was not. How disrespectful of Ubisoft to make up an Italian guy and use him as the main character of a game that takes place in Istanbul.
dincosire@reddit
That’s actually the point, this is the first game that they tried to claim to have some historical accuracy to, and Yasuke being a big samurai figure isn’t historically accurate. They should have stuck to historical fiction like they had been.
MajinVenom@reddit
They literally say it's historical fiction at the very start of the game.
dincosire@reddit
Yet they went out of their way to, unlike in previous games, include and advertise a real historical figure for the player to play as. What I'm saying is they oversold how much real history this entry is using compared to previous entries.
MajinVenom@reddit
They really didn't. They said you'll play as Yasuke, who is a historical figure, and since there isn't a lot about him(and he is an outsider), he makes an interesting character to write about.
EZPZKILLMEPLZ@reddit
I think Ezio was mostly in Italy. It was Altair in Istanbul iirc.
Nithoren@reddit
They're talking about revelations, I don't believe Altair goes to Istanbul (was Constantinople)
vjmdhzgr@reddit
Exactly. Why are we playing as a real person? They completely fucked it up.
TheArsenal7@reddit
No you just have zero understanding of history or geography clearly. Plenty of Italians would be in Istanbul (Constantinople) as it used to be part of the Roman Empire and it’s quite close to Italy compared to Africa vs Japan. Not the same thing at all
Adipay@reddit
Your argument is completely invalidated by the fact that, get this, Yasuke was a real guy that was in Japan.
Visible-Original4561@reddit
slasher1337@reddit
Why does everyone ignore that you also play as naoe
_Rysen@reddit
because japanese woman in japanese setting isn't really a point of contention
Patroklus42@reddit
Because they have a chance to be racist
Calfan_Verret@reddit
Also women bad
boykimma@reddit
MomDontReadThisShit@reddit
That made sense bc bsaa was a multi national org.
Hakuraze@reddit
I see you forgot about Far Cry 2, every one does.
RedRevanchist@reddit
not 1625 but playing as an assassin David Livingstone would be fucking awesome this meme is just stupid
ISIPropaganda@reddit
Can someone who’s actually played this game and isn’t just a pissy little bitch cause they can’t handle seeing a black person in a mainstream video game tell me how it actually is?
rancidfart86@reddit
I have never seen an actual Japanese person complaining about this game, only white weebs online
kilqax@reddit
I've definitely seen the official statement by Shinto priests condemning the game directing you to desecrate shrines though
SaveFileCorrupt@reddit
Huh? I got a notification in game that told me not to climb the shrines, and I couldn't grapple them, either.
super5aj123@reddit
Iirc that was added after the controversy. Originally, they were fully destructible environments.
no_weird_PMs_pls@reddit
Yeah, it was a like day 1 or 2 patch to make things in shrines none breakable. And last I played you still could climb gates, but that might have changed too.
AsherTheDasher@reddit
might be because ac2 wasnt marketed as being historically accurate whike ac shadows was marketed as being so historically accurate that anyone who ever questioned it was a racist and a bigot
ilikebarbiedolls32@reddit
I mean, you can literally fistfight the Pope in AC 2. Why does it matter?
Dravarden@reddit
but that literally happened
ilikebarbiedolls32@reddit
He wasn’t Pope during AC 2’s time period
Dravarden@reddit
sure, but it's still a thing that happened
in this one, there are cherry blossoms and water melons, something that isn't possible in the time period either
kilqax@reddit
Honestly not much, it just definitely goes against the "it's only anime fans which complain" take
But then again Japanese are way more conservative and care a bit more about portrayal of some things in media, it might matter to them a lot more. I wouldn't know enough tho since I'm not Japanese.
Fyrefanboy@reddit
My brother in priest, they genderbended and made every single of their historical characters including their navy and planes into fanservice bait.
What a few politicians or shinto priest boomers think about a videogame is a non-issue. Who care about this.
Bruvernment@reddit
Erm, actually, they dont care about this other thing!
Yung_Oldfag@reddit
Catholics are a more socially acceptable punching bag, is this news to you?
Fieri_Fever@reddit
Catholics have worked hard to earn that right.
soobnar@reddit
HOOOOO
jubmille2000@reddit
It matters if that pope is fucking Borgia. Nobody would defend him
wololowhat@reddit
That pope was universally condemned and some catholic figures were like "you should've use that needle thingy on him instead, make him suffer"
JustABigBruhMoment@reddit
Well they’ve also been subject to a growing number of people coming over to be nuisances, so the Japanese government had to call the game “tourism poison” since it might inspire ill-intentioned travelers to destroy their religious sites and objects because they’ve seen it in a video game. To your point, people weren’t as stupid when it came to separating video games from reality back when AC2 came out, but it also has to do with the fact that Japanese culture is usually more hands off and self enforcing through norms and morals, whereas trying to fistfight the pope nowadays would get you beaten by his guards. You’re expected to be courteous in Japan and you’re treated as such, approaching a person of power will put you in the crosshairs for a beat down regardless of your intentions.
Uniq_Eros@reddit
Japanese clutching their pearls and talking about honor but bring up their porn, Nanjing, Unit 731 or comfort women and watch the 180.
TearOpenTheVault@reddit
Meanwhile in Assassins Creed Valhalla, you can run screaming into a church, murder a guy next to the altar, steal all its tableware and run out again blowing a warhorn.
turalyawn@reddit
You can only murder 3 priests before you desynchronize. The lack of historical accuracy is appalling
Smol-Fren-Boi@reddit
I mean, you're a Viking. That's literally what they did for a while
designer_benifit2@reddit
To be fair you are a Viking, that’s like their whole thing
Yung_Oldfag@reddit
Yes, and any Christian clergy who get upset about such things get told "calm down" and "it's just a game" and "you guys are no fun this is why no one likes you".
Saaka_Souffle@reddit
I had a pretty good laugh when the in game message popped up "help preserve the sanctity of Shinto gates by not climbing on them" immediately followed by the prompt to use the grappling hook on one
jjkm7@reddit
And Ubisoft immediately patched that out
Smol-Fren-Boi@reddit
Which I mean, fair enough tbh? Even if it has a lore or gameplay reason it's still a bit of a dick move. It's like having a gunfight in a church in a shooter game
rancidfart86@reddit
The game doesn’t direct the player to do that, though
kilqax@reddit
Yeah sorry my formulation wasn't right - I'll edit it
Those definitely are angry Japanese though
Raz98@reddit
The Japanese government addressed the game as hostile, and disrespectful. Japanese social media ate the shit alive.
You haven't been looking very closely.
V-Lenin@reddit
One chud that wanted to make a name for himself
Raz98@reddit
The prime minister, dipshit. Scroll down for the sources.
V-Lenin@reddit
Maybe read shit before you post it. It says they don‘t give a shit about the game
Raz98@reddit
“I fear that allowing players to attack and destroy real-world locations in the game without permission could encourage similar behavior in real life. Shrine officials and local residents are also worried about this. Of course, freedom of expression must be respected, but acts that demean local cultures should be avoided.”
-Prime Minister Ishiba
jjkm7@reddit
They only cared about potential tourists coming and destroying or disrespecting shrines. And Ubisoft immediately patched it so you can’t climb on or destroy shrines. Nothing to do with the actual game or characters. This comment leaves out so much context
emurillo97@reddit
Why don't you look their statements then?
Raz98@reddit
https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/japanese-government-addresses-assassins-creed-shadows-controversy-as-ban-rumors-spread-3165590/
Here's IGN doing damage control too for good measure https://www.ign.com/articles/the-prime-minister-of-japan-responded-to-a-question-about-assassins-creed-shadows-today-heres-whats-actually-going-on
emurillo97@reddit
And its literally them clarifying the Prime Minister's comments
Raz98@reddit
There's a lot of downplaying language that doesn't line up with the outrage presented by the government.
emurillo97@reddit
And there's a lot of uplaying because people used these comments to suggest AC shadows was gonna be banned in Japan when the government didn't end up doing anything.
Raz98@reddit
Yeah, I didn't see that happening, either. Offensive, sure, but Japan isn't China.
Sercotani@reddit
what a bunch of pussies honestly. I remember when CnC Generals was banned in China because they portrayed a terrorist attack in the first China mission and that was bad because... because.
This was 2 decades ago.
Raz98@reddit
Oh yeah, China has to be the biggest sorest pussy on this planet, bar none. A national identity of thin skin.
rancidfart86@reddit
*A single guy in the Japanese parlament who’s statement has been spun up by grifters
atomkicke@reddit
Ok so then you have seen an actual japanese person complaining about the game and your initial claim was a lie?
rancidfart86@reddit
Politicians aren’t people
designer_benifit2@reddit
Redditors conveniently forgetting all the politicians who have done good
rancidfart86@reddit
Oh, I’m not saying a politician can’t do any good
designer_benifit2@reddit
But they’re not human because?
rancidfart86@reddit
They’re politicians
willbebannedagainn@reddit
Based
Raz98@reddit
The fucking Prime Minister, you disingenuous worm?
MangaIsekaiWeeb@reddit
You probably never seen any Japanese people's opinion because you don't listen to their opinions.
Here is the Japan trailer of Assassin Creed Shadow. It has an 1k like to 25k dislike ratio. Seems like Japan hates AC Shadows.
deanrihpee@reddit
I have seen, but Japanese were never direct and they have some kind their own silo of social media
Fattest_loser@reddit
As far as I know there was a guy interviewing Japanese people on youtube and asked them they're thoughts and most of them said they don't really care about Yasuke being in the game or didn't know about the drama.
One Japanese guy Hideki Kamiya the creator of dmc and bayonetta said being mad at the game is stupid and no normal japanese person would care about the game but got called a race traitor by western people.
Shaponja@reddit
Have you read the last line? They love that shit
Shaponja@reddit
Well of course since they love and make games where you do nothing for 2 hours
CannibalisticChad@reddit
My Japanese girlfriend and her mother are fucking pissed lol
Guilty_Challenge6233@reddit
The fucking prime minister of japan complaindx
WraithArt@reddit
Source. Right now.
Guilty_Challenge6233@reddit
Google it, do I also need to change your diapers
WraithArt@reddit
I Googled first. And what you're saying isn't accurate. That's why I'm asking you lil' pussy.
TraditionalRow3978@reddit
Don't you think that might have something to do with the fact that the only thing you do is browse western weeb boards and that you don't speak japanese? It's honestly impressive that the thought didn't even cross your mind.
rancidfart86@reddit
That’s definitely part of it
XAlphaWarriorX@reddit
From what i know, The common japanese man often vents his frustration and expresses his opinions on obscure japanese forums that are completely unknown in the west, rather than twitter and shit.
yourstruly912@reddit
How many japanese people do you see often?
rancidfart86@reddit
And you?
yourstruly912@reddit
I did not make any claims
ertugyigit92@reddit
The entire Japanese government had a meeting to address the game, were you living under a rock?
Adipay@reddit
Interestingly it's the best or 2nd best selling game in most territories since it launched.
thetheorisingtonpa@reddit
It’s not, it was a Ubislop deceptive wording. It was “best selling” at a timeframe of just two days not at “all time”, evidently they even stopped updating after claiming 3 million players, which means game haven’t even hit 4 million players because 2 million out of 3 were already Ubisoft+ subscribers trying a game out for free. This game sold like trash and it was reflected in all traceable metrics like Steam players and Ubisoft stock price.
Adipay@reddit
You could not be more wrong.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:bhqrrxt7yyfpwguioa7rwa7x/post/3lmrugvasic24?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fgamerant.com%252Fassassins-creed-shadow-tops-sales-charts-april-2025%252F
thetheorisingtonpa@reddit
Bro, I am not opening this irrelevant Twitter clone for pedophiles. You will have to actually write here your argument or gtfo.
Adipay@reddit
How about this then?
https://venturebeat.com/games/assassins-creed-shadows-sneaks-to-top-of-march-sales-circana/
thetheorisingtonpa@reddit
Ok, and? It is “top of March sales” what other AAA games it was competing with? Being a top of a one man race is not an achievement… It did not outsell Schedule 1(a one guy dev indie game), it did not outsell MH( an actual AAA competitor), it will not outsell Oblivion remake(a mere AA competitor). All of this despite ACS having 3-100x times the budget of these games. They were actively reporting every million players milestone until 4 million because even with their subscription that offers the game for FREE there were not even 4 million total players of this pay-to-win single game disaster… Your deceptive yellow journalism articles will not salvage the reputation of this shit, we have trackable data for this game, Steam data shows it have not even manage to sell 600k copies on the biggest PC platform, and it all is reflected in the Ubisoft stock that has been nosediving since game released…
Vivid-Smell-6375@reddit
the op ur replying to posted this thread in gamingcirclejerk and has an ac background on their profile ur engaging with a companyman bootlicker
MrNyto_@reddit
yeah, because its actually quite fun lmao
Bluu44@reddit
no you need to play shoot em ups from 2005 and xbox 360 games with 100 units sold to have fun. a youtube shorts i watched said modern gaming is dead which means anyone playing a triple A game and says they are having fun is lying and likely russian bot
MrNyto_@reddit
ah, ya caught me... im not actually having fun playing assassins creed slopdows, im just gaslighting myself into enjoying it
(/s)
Tktopaz2@reddit
Tempura was actually brought to japan by the portugese
Anabiter@reddit
Markiplier portugese
KreigerBlitz@reddit
So was Yasuke tbf
IamWatchingAoT@reddit
Fun fact I am Portuguese and the Christian name he is called by is my name.
ThatFuckingGeniusKid@reddit
Tbf you change one letter and it's a spanish name.
IamWatchingAoT@reddit
Change shit to shat and it's another word. Crazy.
ThatFuckingGeniusKid@reddit
It's one letter not like I changed the entire word, sorry if your name isn't that special dude
lynxerious@reddit
and salmon sashimi was introduced by the norwegian, due to their excessive amount of salmon that is clean from parasite and Japan is a heavy fish consumption country.
_Volatile_@reddit
Steam is actually pretty lenient with their refund policy. You can actually explain tht the game has 2 hours of cutscenes and they'll probably get you your refund. I once got a refund on a game bundle 4 months after the purchase because I was getting chokeslammed by schoolwork and had no time to actually file on time
wiiferru666@reddit
Same thing could be said about RDR2 so I dont see the point
HG2321@reddit
Yeah but RDR2 is actually good
Tranquil_Neurotic@reddit
Why the comic cute though
robressionist801@reddit
"Assassin's Creed sucks enormous gorilla dick." -Dunkey
BeansGreens9586@reddit
Acshewally, gorillas have some of the smallest penile to body size ratio in the animal , averaging out at 3-6 centimetres long ☝️🤓
FredCole918@reddit
You oughta know, sweetie.
Ptaku9@reddit
6 centimeters isn't small tho
robressionist801@reddit
I guess it's a 6cm dick then
atlashoth@reddit
Steam having more control on development of games by changing its refund policy. Lol. Lmao even.
Sbotkin@reddit
Better than MSFS that was simply downloading shit in-game for 2+ hours.
HebrewHamm3r@reddit
I dunno man I'm enjoying it so far
The_Shittiest_Meme@reddit
Exxeleration@reddit
You can probably bring that up with steam and possibly still get a refund
ertugyigit92@reddit
What Takeshi gonna do? (gets kissed into a gay relationship with a jap dude)
xXHalalManXx@reddit
No, but he will give you a challenge
LazyBoyXD@reddit
It really is a Japanese game.
2 whole hour of nothing is very Japanese
Motor-Notice702@reddit
You don't skip cutscenes?
HawasYT@reddit
If you gonna skip cutscenes then why even bother with AC Shadows, just pick up/replay Ghost of Tsushima
The only reason one would play the new Assassin's Creed is if they were still invested in the story and lore of the series - how would anyone be at this point, when creators have no idea how to build a coherent universe, is beyond me but that's beside the point
WorldofCannons@reddit
Because I get to play as a hot woman and stab people from behind
HawasYT@reddit
On PC there are mods for that. And there's gonna be a sequel with a woman as the protagonist so...
WorldofCannons@reddit
I'm starting Valhalla dlcs then shadows and hopefully hexe will be a thing by then, good time to be a fan of this mid series
Ptaku9@reddit
By the time you finish Valhalla there will be another main line entry.
Amathril@reddit
The real Fake and Gay is always in the comments.
MRdzh@reddit
All modern games made by trash companies are made in a way that throws the best it has at you in the first 2 hours, so you don’t refund, only to have it’s content get a bit more sparse for the next 3-4 hours, until video game “journalists” make their 10/10 reviews, and then the rest of the content, which is also the majority of the game, is dogshit. Of course the ration of content to the first few hours will vary across companies and games, but the principle is always the same.