what model is this? I cannot find it online.

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heroinebob90@reddit

Sort of a chiefs special with a aftermarket houge grip that’s to big for it

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thatG_evanP@reddit

That's not a Hogue grip and it's also not too big for the gun at all.

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fuzzycaterpillar123@reddit

It’s too big in the sense that it’s not proportional and somewhat defeats the purpose of a easily concealable pistol

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A_Queer_Owl@reddit

but it would make the pistol not complete ass to use, like the factory grip does.

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fuzzycaterpillar123@reddit

I have multiple snub noses. They are fine if you trains

That’s like getting a Glock 26 and using a 17 round mag with grip filler because it’s more comfortable

Yeah, no one is going to argue it’s less comfortable, but at that point you should just get a Glock 17.

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A_Queer_Owl@reddit

and I learned to shoot on my mom's model 36./

I never said you couldn't get good with them, but training to mitigate the deficiencies of your weapon doesn't make the deficiencies not exist.

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fuzzycaterpillar123@reddit

Well you said it’s complete ass, which I disagree with

Again, I don’t think many people get glock 26’s and call the short grip a deficiency - the short grip is a feature on a small gun. The point of the design is to be small

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nah, a small grip is definitely a deficiency, it negatively impacts the performance of the weapon in its role as a weapon. but you are choosing that deficiency with the intent of more effectively concealing it. a deficiency with intent and purpose is usually called a compromise.

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fuzzycaterpillar123@reddit

No it meets spec. A long handle on a gun designed for concealment is a deficiency

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A_Queer_Owl@reddit

that's one way to look at it. I'm coming from the perspective of "what is the most effective personal weapon." at the top is a rifle, then the varying handguns in mostly descending size. tiny hand guns are near the bottom of the firearms section, because they have a lot of compromises. short barrels, tiny grips, and low capacities. but you accept these deficiencies because who the fuck wants to carry a rifle everywhere or be flashing their gat all over town?

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fuzzycaterpillar123@reddit

Again, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who unironically posted a picture of a Glock 26 with a 17 mag and grip spacer, and we both know a post like that would be criticized

It would objectively be a bit silly, and a vast majority of gun people would recognize the paradox

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A_Queer_Owl@reddit

people post stuff like that all the time, tho. hell, someone posted on the CZ sub a P10 they customized that has a P10C slide on a modified P10F frame. they wanted a 19 round capacity and fullsize grip without completely compromising concealability. they created a deficiency in concealability to make a more effective weapon.

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