Day 10 - Center Console and Shifter
Posted by LiqourSnatch@reddit | projectcar | View on Reddit | 15 comments
Day 10, I bought a shifter out of a 2006 Toyota Matrix. I specifically searched for that one because I wanted a floor mounted shifter with 6 speeds and reverse on the left. Once I learned how shifters work I quickly realised none of that stuff actually matters, shifters are basically just a rod, the limits and controls come from stops built into the transmission, not the shifter.
So I reverse engineered the shifter, built it out of aluminum, and made the whole mechanism skinny enough to fit inside my center console without that dangerous bulky protrusion.
My Dad came up with using hydraulics for the shifter. Theoretically it would work just like a cable, and I wouldnt have to worry about the cable getting too tight as it went through the chassis, as that wouldnt happen with a hydraulic line. I tried my best to make it work, but I couldnt get all the air out of the system. I think it came down to the pistons being worn out and from a scrap yard. The rings in the piston couldnt seal the water properly, likely because they were originally pneumatic and about 40 years old, but hey, my Dad got the pistons for free, so it was worth a shot. I ended up converting the whole system to cable shift.
Iām a fuckin maniac, so I wanted the center console to slide. This would let my big cousin and little sister drive it. The center console and all the controls that ride on it can move back and forth a total of just over 6 inches. So anyone can hop in, adjust the car around themselves, and then lock it all in place. This ended up being a monumental task that took months to design and build.
The center console is 1/8ā thick aluminum plate which I had bent. I then machined slots in the side of it and countersunk the slots to allow bolts to slide under the outer shell, allowing for the movement. There's something like 117 bolts in the center console. All the nuts are pieces of aluminum that I drilled and tapped and welded to the inside, so it all comes apart without needing two sets of tools. Every bolt is countersunk.
I machined a shifter gate on the mill, squiggling it for the offset in the handle. Then I labelled the shift positions with a piece of 1ā brass round stock that I machined down and stamped characters into.
jedigreg1984@reddit
Bravo!
TheOliverPickard@reddit
That looks like a lot of fun
Mavrosian@reddit
Gorgeous work! Your console is fantastic, well done. If I could offer a critique -- the irregular shape of your shifter gates might have been more easily accomplished (perhaps even a little more cleanly) with a jig saw, drill, and files than the milling machine. I've had a lot of success cutting forms from even 1/8 plate steel with my jig saw.
LiqourSnatch@reddit (OP)
That's fair, some of the milling was multi directional and it was kinda like playing with an etch-a-sketch, so you can see around reverse gear it got kinda messy. I did a lot of filing afterwards to clean it up and make the shifter engage properly
No-Enthusiasm3579@reddit
imfirealarmman@reddit
Is this a VW or Audi?
LiqourSnatch@reddit (OP)
Audi, it was a 2001 A6 originally
CorgiCommercial8962@reddit
Engineering madness. Fabrication, trial and error. Hotrodding in its purest form.
LiqourSnatch@reddit (OP)
I'm in a local group with a bunch of old guys who built dragsters back in the 60's. They drive really cool stuff like a 1927 Essex, one guy has a 32 Ford Roadster. We bug em about being the original owners. They're all about hot rods and they love it
CorgiCommercial8962@reddit
As it should be. Dirty raked 4 bangers on split wishbones, stupid 6 pot stromberg setups, 6-71s and bias ply tires. Nosed and decked. Don't forget the deadend crusiers.
eddirrrrr@reddit
Using hydraulics instead of cables is a cool idea. Have you made the transmission side of things yet? I'd be curious to see that. I wonder how it will feel compared to a cable actuated shifter.
LiqourSnatch@reddit (OP)
Imo it would be the way to go, but those pistons are really expensive and hard to find. With cables you can feel the resistance from the curves it takes to snake them back to the transmission.
Hydraulics were way smoother and more accurate. They also didnt have that added resistance, and I could route hard lines to it any way I wanted. I might bring them back out in the future but I'd have to buy proper pistons, the ones I have were not rebuildable
Steelhorse91@reddit
Use multiple cables with joiner pivots on bearings to get around corners (could even incorporate some solid rods). Break it down into straighter runs. Fit springs on the hinge pieces if it needs more pressure than the spring at the gearbox end of the selector can provide to work.
LiqourSnatch@reddit (OP)
True, I could use pivots and have everything from the rear firewall back be on solid rods. That's a good idea. I might rebuild the whole shift mechanism later on, I dont really like how it's on a 45 degree angle. If I redo it I'll probably incorporate bellcranks and pushrods like you're saying
Threewisemonkey@reddit
Absolutely madness