Would you support a national bedtime?

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StarShipYear@reddit

Sounds like a cool Black Mirror episode.

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discodave333@reddit

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Meal deal is £3.60 with clubcard.

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JinxThePetRock@reddit

Someone should make a t-shirt with this on.

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whooptheretis@reddit

It's it just more like the Costco model, where it's a membership store. Except they give membership away for free, and also you can still shop there as a non-member, it just costs more.
I don't get the outrage at Tesco but not Costco or Toolstation

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NYX_T_RYX@reddit

Cus with Costco, it's always been clear you're paying to get in and get stuff cheaper (sometimes)

I wouldn't mind Tesco as much if they

A. Paid their staff a living wage (my big objection TBF) B. Had cheaper fuel, like Costco does

I've gotta buy food somewhere, sure, but it doesn't have to be there; there's plenty of shops that aren't basically forcing you to let them sell your data just to buy toilet roll 🤷‍♂️

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whooptheretis@reddit

there's plenty of shops that aren't basically forcing you to let them sell your data just to buy toilet roll

Exactly, so don’t go to Tesco. But don’t single out Tesco without criticising the likes of Costco and Toolstation.

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NYX_T_RYX@reddit

Costco haven't been reported in news for not paying their staff fairly. I have literally 0 cares about Toolstation.

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Impressive-Chart-483@reddit

A couple of months ago I briefly started getting ads for something (I actually forget what now though) I hadn't googled, hadn't purchased, and hadn't spoken about but had thought about the previous day and had meant to look into.

minisrugbycoach@reddit

Soooo, go to bed early each night in this country, then once a year go to Spain and act out the purge knowing you'll be ok because you stick to the curfew at home.

Yeah, not sure how that's gonna work.

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I discovered Bryan Johnson gets up at 4.

I discovered that because the question was raised in my mind when I find he has his last meal of the day at 11am.

His "routine" is total garbage.

As a homeowner who is not a morning person this is how my day normally goes

10am wake up-ish

10.15- 6pm existential crisis

6pm-6.30pm scran

5:00, wake up

05:01, take a shit

They're almost as bad as compulsory fancy dress at work people.

DaenerysTartGuardian@reddit

Haha are you me!? I did all of this, I did the two blocks thing for like a year. 6pm to 10pm and 4am to 8am. It was like having a whole bonus day at night!

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Down-Right-Mystical@reddit

This is me at the moment. At least with the evening sleep, and being awake in the middle of the night. The morning sleep is more like 6am-12pm. I bizarrely seem to get my deepest sleep when it's light outside.

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I choose this also. Mornings are hard.

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hypershrew@reddit

For this reason, I call my early-bird friends lazy for going to bed so early.

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Shoddy-Computer2377@reddit

Don't get me started on "flexible working".

You start at 7am and finish at 3:30pm? You are passionate, driven, one to watch, team player, self-starter, ambitious, a star asset.

You start at 10:30am and finish at 7pm? Lazy, disorganised, hard to get hold of, good evening, PIP for timekeeping.

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NeverCadburys@reddit

This is why the push to get disabled people into work without change of of infrastructure is so dangerous. If we're going to get into work, we need true flexi working hours. Hell i'm finishing my studies, part time, with the OU where the week goes between Saturday and Friday and as long as we get the 16-20 (feels like more) hours done in that time we're keeping up okay, but sickness gets in the way, hospital appointment gets in the way. I want to work, and clearly i'm capable of something if I can study, but when you can piss off your whole department by not getting out of bed until 11 and needing to go back to bed at 2, even with the adjsutment of flexi working hours, and days off for hospital appointments the week a project is due, it's obvious it's not about getting us into a workplace, but just off benefits.

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postvolta@reddit

As someone whose kids get him up at 5am, being able to start at 7am is an absolute blessing. If I had to start at 9 or later I'd feel like I had already put in a full day of work just sorting the kids out haha.

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I find that as I get older, I need less sleep. Which sucks, as I love sleep.

I've always been a go-to-bed-when-tired kinda guy, which usually ends up being around 1-2am and could sleep until 10am to midday if no alarm.

I still do go to bed late (sometimes even later), but find myself waking up again around 7am naturally now. I rarely sleep more than 6 hours. For reference, I turn half a century next year.

I hope it doesn't continue the trend, else by the time I retire there won't be much sleeping at all 😢

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Defiant-Ad1432@reddit

Nah, there is nothing worse than a convert. I was always a "stay up late" person 1am bed even when working. Then at the ripe age of 40 I decided to try and change that. I am now a 9pm to bed 5am awake person, even at weekends. My sense of superiority is all the sweeter knowing I had to fight my natural instincts to achieve this.

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TrackNinetyOne@reddit

Typical night owl take, amirite early risers!

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KeyJunket1175@reddit

It's just biology. Being in sync with how your body works is efficient, so yes, superior to being out of sync... Similar reason why dinner shouldn't be your main big meal, and why it should be at least 4 hours before you go to sleep. Metabolism affects your sleep.

Same but no one believes me and everyone tries to force me into their bedtime routine.

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Patient_Debate3524@reddit

Sounds like the sort of thing that could happen in China lol.

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DietSoft6792@reddit

It's ironic to hear someone say this because I live in China and one of my favourite things about the country is how much more liberal they are than us about bedtime. There's way less nannying from the state about when everything should be shut at night.

Where I am in south western China young kids play out until 10pm and I can go out and get a full meal in a restaurant at 4am should I want to. Many shops are 24/7 and there's a few bars on my local shopping street that are open until 5-7am every night.

Back home in London the city completely dies at night: people would be complaining about the noise the kids make, and the local council would have taken away all the late licenses for the bars and restaurants, forcing them to shut at midnight due to noise complaints. The only food you could get at 4 would be a petrol station sandwich.

The UK definitely has more of a curfew culture than China does!

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textzenith@reddit

Why does that sound so much better than here?

Speak for yourself.

I'm always dropping my cocaine in the street.

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TheJelqingGooner@reddit

That's a really good point, but you accidentally responded to me rather than the original commenter.

Let me try and sum up/condense your thoughts: "Cocaine is illegal and therefore most people don't do it. Ignoring your government-sanctioned bedtime would also be illegal and therefore most people wouldn't do it."

I don't normally use analogies but I'll definitely be using this - thanks!

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Jonoabbo@reddit

Cocaine is illegal and therefore most people don't do it.

You sure about that?

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vladimirepooptin@reddit

cocaine is expensive therefore most people don’t do it more like

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Internet-Dick-Joke@reddit

Dude, they're an insomniac - they can't sleep even if they want to. What time you set their bedtime is kind of irrelevant to that fact, because they are an insomniac and can't sleep.

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TheJelqingGooner@reddit

Well then as they're willfully breaking the rules, they would not be given any benefits.

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Internet-Dick-Joke@reddit

But it wouldn't be "willfully" breaking the rules, because the definition of "willfully" is 'with intention', and someone with insomnia isn't intentionally staying awake - they literally don't have a choice because they physically can't sleep. Insomnia isn't a refusal to sleep, it is an inability to do so - that is literally the definition of insomnia.

Saying that someone with insomnia is "willfully" staying awake is like saying someone with a paralysis is "willfully" not moving the paralysed body part, or like, if I forget my glasses and am trying to order in a coffee shop, saying that I am 'willfully refusing to read the menu on the wall behind the counter', when I literally cannot read it because my eyes are shit.

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TheJelqingGooner@reddit

If you forget your glasses then it is your fault. If I left my retinas at home, I wouldn't then turn around and complain about being blind.

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Internet-Dick-Joke@reddit

Okay, so what if my glasses get stolen or damaged by no fault of my own? Then what?

It wouldn't be "willful" refusal to read the menu then, because it's something that I can't do through no fault of my own. So the "willful" argument isn't applicable here.

Now you could argue that my money isn't worth the effort of the barrister reading out the entire menu to me so that I can decide what I want, but that's a different argument entirely than me "willfully breaking the rules".

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TheJelqingGooner@reddit

You willfully broke the rules by needing glasses. If you didn't need glasses then you wouldn't need glasses to read the rules. Why is this a hard concept for you to understand?

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Internet-Dick-Joke@reddit

willfully

I don't think that you understand what that word means. The entire reason why I brought up the glasses comparison I was to point out how you are misusing the term "willfully".

Seriously, what you think the word "willfully" means? Pull out a dictionary and check. It means 'with conscious intention'. You cannot 'need' something (like glasses) or have an inability to do something (like with insomnia) willfully, because by definition those things (willfully vs need/inability) contradict each other.

You are using the word entirely incorrectly, I can only assume because you don't actually understand what it means, and in doing so undermining you whole point because it literally turns your opening sentence into a false sentence - "You broke the rules by needing glasses" can be a true statement, but "You willfully broke the rules by needing glasses" cannot because 'willfully' and 'need' are inherently contradictory. Why is this a hard concept for you to understand?

It's now 1:30, the rebellion has begun!

If I get to swap it to 9.45am when I'm working nights then, yes please!

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Impressive-Chart-483@reddit

London, UK has more CCTV per km squared than any other place outside of Asia.

A certain borough is installing facial recognition cameras on the high street. FR that has been proven to be especially inaccurate with regards to black people. Where is this, you ask? Croydon.

We have still failed to regulate E-scooters. Legal in many places worldwide, yet we still need more information. But feel free to hire one from our selected partners for the low low average price of £4 per journey. They aren't safe if you buy one though.

Cannabis is still illegal, despite being readily available, impossible to overdose on, and generally makes people mellow the fuck out. You may say it induces mania in some, which it does, especially when genetically predisposed. Yet alcohol is everywhere, legal, and taxed to the hilt, with worse mood altering effects.

We just bailed out Thames Water for £3b. To simply pay back some interest on debts and keep it afloat. No investment for years, huge fines for dumping waste in rivers due to under investment, but with record breaking dividends paid out to foreign investment groups. Half of our water bill goes on paying off debt. They wanted to increase it by over 50%. Regulators capped it at a little over 30%. Thames Water has stated that it may be able to start making plans to do some work in 2027, although possibly not until 2032.

We just tried to cut off disabled to save £5b in 5 years time. Sorry, what was your point again?

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TugMe4Cash@reddit

It was either 'no reply', or a 'brain rot reply'. Looks like I received the latter. What was your point again? -what an ironic question, looks like you have trouble understanding what we are talking about. I'll try and be as simple and concise as possible.

London, UK has more CCTV per km - True but it's one certain 'borough', not the government. Again I'll ask; how does the UK gov "restrict, control and infantilise" us?
A certain borough is installing facial recognition - True, but it's one certain 'borough', not the government. Again I'll ask; how does the UK gov "restrict, control and infantilise" us.
We have still failed to regulate E-scooters - How is failing to regulate E-scooters the UK gov "restricting, controlling and infantilising" us?
We just bailed out Thames Water for £3b - True, but how is bailing out Thames Water the UK gov "restricting, controlling and infantilising" us?
We just tried to cut off disabled to save £5b - No idea what this is, is English really that difficult? Anyway how is whatever this nonsense the UK gov "restricting, controlling and infantilising" us?

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nuclearcontamination@reddit

The UK imprisons people for social media posts now.

You literally can’t have an opinion without the government knocking on your door, tyranny by definition, lemme guess- you like it when people who don’t share your far-left anti freedom opinions are shared online

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

Wah wah wah. I don't say it wasn't stupid, I just asked if you'd support it.

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plfntoo@reddit

Goes on AskUK to ask a question Receives in-depth well-thought out answer "Wah wah wah"

Wow what an absolute knob

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KelpFox05@reddit

What a fucking pointless waste of time then, asking if people would support something you know is stupid and useless. Delete your Reddit account until you can make better use of your time online.

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Scasne@reddit

Go home Herr Flick your drunk on power.

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Numerous-Abrocoma-50@reddit

Yeah sure why not.

Not 9:45 though. Midnight would do or maybe as a compromise 11:30 pm

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Purple_ash8@reddit

I don’t see how this would help anyone. Moreover, what-about people who work night shifts?

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Batesy18@reddit

We’ve already got the national tea alarm, why do we need a national bed time too?!

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My evening itinerary:

6pm - BBC News 7pm - Dinner 8pm - Clap for Carers on the doorstep 9 45pm - National Bedtime.

God Save The King.

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globalcitizen@reddit

🤔 We're still clapping?

BJ made us look like idiots, made us clap and refused to pay the NHS workers a fair pay rise... I remember opening my door and seeing everyone on the street coming out to clap and then not really knowing when to stop... My next door neighbour kept the clapping going as long as she could... She lived alone (well, plus two cats).

I sometimes wonder if people did it in genuine appreciation or more because it created a sense of community at a time we were all so isolated from each other.... Because if it was genuine appreciation, how did the government at the time get away with all the thieving and mishandling, and how is it that we have moved on so quickly from that period in our lives...

I was very close to the front line directly supporting nurses, doctors and also involved in the Oxford trial... It was a horrendous time but we all just seem to have forgotten about it, or have actively chosen to forget about it... Instead we seem to be preoccupied with boat crossings and definitions of women!

God help society...

End of rant!

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baechesbebeachin@reddit

I didn't clap, but only because I kept forgetting and more than once turned the TV up because there was noise outside hahaha...

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ZoeEatsToes@reddit

I remember sometimes my work at the time would finish just right where everyone would be clapping as i was riding a bike home, I was just there waving like the queen feeling like royalty.

I didnt work in the NHS and may come across as a knob but I got a good laugh out of it

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minisrugbycoach@reddit

I didn't clap because I saw it for the stupid virtue signalling that it was.

I did get yelled at for cutting my grass during "the clap" once though.

But to be fair to myself, I had just forgotten all about it and I wasn't just being a dick for the sake of it.

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SilverstoneMonzaSpa@reddit

I'd be more confused why someone was mowing the lawn at 8pm than anything. I'd be getting the kids to bed and would be really fucking startled if someone waked on a mower

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terryjuicelawson@reddit

Almost like the story isn't real, which is shocking.

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minisrugbycoach@reddit

I'm very proud of my grass and my garden. To the point that it has to look immaculate otherwise I get very angsty. So with working late during lockdown I didn't get much chance to maintain it.

I usually use either a ride on or the push petrol, but during lockdown we bought a battery mower so I could do it later without upsetting the neighbour. It's a very quiet mower, although it does take 4 batteries to cut the whole lawn.

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Insert meme

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globalcitizen@reddit

Much obliged

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BringBackHanging@reddit

I think it was a joke.

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NYX_T_RYX@reddit

8pm - Clap for Carers on the doorstep 9 45pm

That's a lot of clap mate, you should get that checked

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DaleSnittermanJr@reddit

Is the King reading us the bedtime story?

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macyyxx@reddit

A national bedtime sounds fun in theory, but it’s a bit unrealistic for a lot of people with different schedules. While incentives like bill discounts or points are appealing, forcing a set bedtime could feel restrictive. Sleep is important, but people should have the freedom to manage it in their own way.

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Hyperion2023@reddit

I support a scheme like this, but instead you set your individual bedtime.

I guess it would be monitored via watch/app which is pretty sinister, but half the time people are monitoring themselves this way anyway. At least you get something out of your self-surveillance while you’re dishing out data to whoever.

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

So bills would be more expensive for someone who works nights?

Sure. Fuck 'em. I love me a snoozy snooze.

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glasgowgeg@reddit

If I was being financially penalised for working night shifts, I would immediately stop giving a fuck about how much noise I make overnight when others are sleeping.

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

You're looking at it all wrong, you're not being penalised. Yours is the normality. The rest of us are simply being incentivised to sleep at night.

The fact that you'd try to ruin that for people says a lot about you.

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glasgowgeg@reddit

You're looking at it all wrong, you're not being penalised. Yours is the normality. The rest of us are simply being incentivised to sleep at night.

If the majority work hours that permit the incentive, then those who cannot get the incentive are being penalised.

Like I said, I would immediately stop trying to be as quiet as possible overnight if I was being penalised for having to work nights/unsocial hours.

What would my incentive to be respectful of others be, when they're receiving a financial incentive? They can consider the additional noise interrupting their sleep as the cost of their financial benefit.

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

What would my incentive to be respectful of others be

Common decency?

If the majority work hours that permit the incentive, then those who cannot get the incentive are being penalised.

It's not a matter of can it cannot. It's a choice. If you choose to keep working nights then you choose not to benefit from the incentives. You then make the choice to blame those who do for you not benefitting. You see how this is all a "you" issue? And yet your response is to try to make others suffer. Interesting.

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glasgowgeg@reddit

Common decency?

Common decency would not be excluding those who do some of the arguably most important jobs in the country a financial incentive because their working hours don't conform to your ideal waking hours.

It's not a matter of can it cannot. It's a choice

It's not a choice though. We have jobs that need to be done 24/7, whether that's emergency services, healthcare, systems support for critical infrastructure, logistics and shipping, etc.

You see how this is all a "you" issue?

You see how when I start making more noise at 3am and wake you up repeatedly because I have no incentive to be respectful of others who gain a financial benefit that is all a "you" issue?

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FreeSupermarket7592@reddit

See, all you're doing is proving that you're exactly the type of person to look at people benefitting from a corrupt system. Then, instead of being angry at the system, you take your anger out on those trying to make the best of a shit situation.

Again, says a lot about you.

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audigex@reddit

Better hope your next medical emergency happens before curfew, then - nurses already can't afford their bills, there's nae fucking chance they're doing a night shift in exchange for higher bills!

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

Well if it comes after curfew then I'll be asleep, won't I? And if I die in my sleep then I won't even know about it. Sounds like a win-win to me.

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I accused nobody of anything, friend.

I quoted you saying it.

The made-up scenario is that of which I am in need of medical assistance during my government appointed restful night's sleep in exchange for cheaper utilities. What part are you struggling to understand? I can break it down in simple terms if you like.

Ah right, so you've just not understood their comment.

Their comment, since you haven't understood it properly, is that you require medical assistance during normal waking hours. The wait for assistance is so long that you are still waiting when the staff say "Actually, we're finished now because of the government appointed restful nights sleep, you now need to wait until tomorrow".

The snarky "I can break it down in simple terms if you like" is actually more effective when you've correctly understood the premise being discussed.

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FreeSupermarket7592@reddit

You do realise blocking me doesn't help your argument, don't you?

Their comment mentions being "closed" because the medical emergency is taking place during the curfew. Hence the mention of no chance of nurses picking up night shifts.

If you're really going to try to dig at reading comprehension, get yourself in check first, buddy.

You've created a side story from a scenario posed by someone else. Maybe just reading along and getting involved in the, quite obvious, joke-y banter would be more productive than trying to twist narratives to make yourself sound "right".

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audigex@reddit

You're taking this a little seriously, I was just throwing in an exaggerated "Yes but have you thought about..." scenario

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

That's what you got from this? That I'm taking it seriously?

I'll agree it's clear that there's been some miscommunication but I can assure you I have taken no part of this remotely seriously.

That's why I'm still awake past curfew.

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audigex@reddit

I didn't think you were at first but then I made a joke about a "Sorry you're dying, someone will be here in the morning, try a paracetamol" answerphone which is obviously nonsense and your reply seemed weirdly serious

Maybe I just missed the joke in your reply

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

Yeah, I suppose I can see how it would be taken that way.

No seriousness here though, and no offence intended at all.

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audigex@reddit

Sounds like we've just gotten our wires crossed a little, then

Probably past our bedtimes

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glasgowgeg@reddit

So bills would be more expensive for someone who works nights?

Those very same staff members stocking the supermarkets where OP proposes folk who follow the "national bedtime" get a discount in.

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

I worked retail for 20 years, stocking is largely done while the store is open these days. In fact I got a nice redundancy payout when my night shifts were cancelled, and then still kept my job but with more sociable hours.

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glasgowgeg@reddit

I see staff overnight in my local Tesco Extra all the time carrying out stocking duties overnight.

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Precipiceofasneeze@reddit

Not anymore! Off to bed with you all!

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crochetprozac@reddit

Carful now, the snooze button will be an additional premium based off of work related KPIs!

I drive trucks at night time.

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Bottled_Void@reddit

It sounded like you were advocating for people using power at home during the night, but forgetting the fact that people use power at work during the day.

Atoz_Bumble@reddit

Yeah, I doubt it'll be no more than annoying for customers. I was just making the suggestion that their business model is not sustainable.

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umognog@reddit

And thats exactly why i recharge my cars, vacuum, power tools, run the dishwasher, washing machine etc. all at night.

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Muffinshire@reddit

Kind of how agile pricing operates already.

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HDK1989@reddit

So bills would be more expensive for someone who works nights?

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

It's not like I have a comprehensive five year implementation plan or anything. I'm just gauging general interest.

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InYourAlaska@reddit

But how can I answer this question without having the answer to every single scenario dammit?!

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No, that's absolutely idiotic.

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moojammin@reddit

What about people that work at night?

Sounds another attempt to control everyone to me.

Well at least nobody can say it's always the same questions being asked on this sub.

Third you'd then have thousands of people "Reporting" their neighbours for staying up past bedtime and causing all sorts of agro.

Then you're also punishing the people who have to work all hours to make a living by putting them behind people who already have enough money that they can give up a couple of hours and still get free stuff.

Uh, no? I don't need to be penalised for my periodic sleep issues more than I am 😆.

Every rush hour would be twice as bad as everyone is working the same hours. Each supermarket would be rammed as we all only go at the same time.

And I can't even see a benefit?

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Hickeyy99@reddit

No, what the fuck? Have you been reading 1984 or watching Black Mirror by any chance?

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alexislswift@reddit

This is the worst idea I've ever heard of

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YarnPenguin@reddit

You can just do that if you want, why have you got to drag everyone else into it

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UpsetKoalaBear@reddit

There’s be a bedtime story each day, read by a public figure

Despite the fact that energy is cheaper at night because less people are using it?

There is no way EDF will sell electric cheaper in the day just cus you go to bed on time 🤦‍♂️

What will make it cheaper? Is if we all complain to our MP about spot pricing - the electric price is fixed to the price of gas produced electric, even if renewables etc are cheaper.

A few times last year renewables were so plentiful that producers were paying to get rid of it. Did we get paid? Fuck no!

I heard that OP is planning to rob people's houses at 10:00pm on the dot each day.

Hm, yes, an opt-in, patronising tyranny.

As of now, the national bedtime is only proposed policy. I'm not violating any curfew by staying up this late.

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lakevna@reddit

So next you'll propose the morning exercise directly out of the book? It's for their health after all.

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Interrogatingthecat@reddit

People can already go to bed earlier if they want to.

Instead you're creating a weird ass system where you punish night shift workers, insomniacs, and others

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Imagine if I didn't finish work till 10pm (I don't) and therefore couldn't get these bonuses. Would be a bummer.

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Timely_Egg_6827@reddit

No and it would ignore huge segments of the economy. Farming goes very late into the night if the weather is dry. Lot of manufacturing places have a third shift. Hospitals, ambulance, fire service. Hospitality industry would be decimated. Yes, you can offer exemptions but you would need so many it would be meaningless.

Jonoabbo@reddit

No, what?

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xcrystalcovex@reddit

sounds like a John Marrs book.

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Marble-Boy@reddit

This would absolutely be worth it for the diplomatic immunity... and once I had diplomatic immunity, I could ignore the national bedtime but still get all the perks because I'd have diplomatic immunity.

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Affectionate_War_279@reddit

If you can guarantee I will fall asleep at that time I will support it wholeheartedly.

afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

It won't cost you anything. You can live your life however you please.

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Euffy@reddit

That's not true though is it? If the majority accept it that affects the economy and pricing. Those who don't accept it are left worse off in comparison. It's essentially a tax on night owls, except the money we pay doesn't go towards anything useful.

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

It ensures a lot of people get a good night's sleep, which has all kinds of benefits.

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turtledude100@reddit

9:45 is too early this is not a good night sleep people have diff sleep times

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Aletheia-Nyx@reddit

I mean, unless your strict bedtime comes with a complementary handful of sleeping pills or a person at your door with anaesthesia, it's not going to get people any more sleep than they could do on their own. Especially since you said people could ignore it anyway, but as things stand now, people go to sleep when they're tired unless the societal expectation of when you should be asleep forces you to be awake when you'd naturally be sleeping. Instead of a regulated bedtime, I'd rather we move back away from this thought process that everyone should sleep and wake at the same time, and find ways for society to function without calling people lazy for having different circadian rhythms.

I can promise you, sending people to bed at 9:45 is not going to mean they can get to sleep any easier than if they self-imposed that bed time. And I assure you, I'm a hell of a lot more productive from 9pm to 5am than I am 9am to 5pm. Forced into a 'normal' wake/rest cycle, I'm lethargic and brain fogged until at least 4pm, but give me the same work at 9pm and I'll be done in 2 hours.

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sjr0754@reddit

The rota below was my final rota for my previous employer, make this work with your idea;

Sun- 20:30-06:30 Mon- Off Tue- 06:30-16:30 Wed- 16:30-02:30 Thu- 20:30-06:30 Fri- 16:30-06:30 (OT) Sat- Off

What days would I qualify for discounts?

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TheJelqingGooner@reddit

None. If you're being selfish and refusing to take part in this system then I don't see why you should reap its rewards.

As someone with some form of delayed onset sleep disorder: Absolutely fucking not, I'd lose 1/3 of my day and my most productive hours

Very little winds me up like "morning people" assuming everyone should conform to their nonsense and that everyone else is lazy

I'd support a national lie-in, though

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ellapolls@reddit

Considering that I’m scrolling through this thread instead of sleeping right now, I think I would struggle to acclimatise

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fuzzball909@reddit

Sounds like Cbeebies

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Klutzy_Brilliant6780@reddit

No, mum.

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It would also be an opportunity to fix British Summer Time issues:

https://alecmuffett.com/article/8521

Quote:

Several years ago while thinking of something fun to do about this whole issue, I created the idea of British Economic Time:

The concept of BET is very simple: pick a point somewhere (eg: Greenwich) with a fixed latitude and longitude, then define 8:00am to be sunrise at that location for any given day, and “midnight” / zero-hour to be 8 hours before that.

This means of course that certain days will have more than 24 hours, and others will have less than 24 hours, but we have the Internet now so all that will fall out in the wash.

Also: anyone above the Arctic Circle will have to sort themselves out, but that’s no more presumptuous than saying Scotland can/should have its own timezone.

The benefits are huger than DDST – consistent light levels around 8am, safe children walking to school, and a near-theoretical-limit maximum number of retail hours for buying to take place in the hope that that somehow will stimulate the economy.

We can also implement a standard British National Breakfast and a British National Bedtime – sponsored by Transco – to minimise impact upon the National Grid.

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Meal-Entire@reddit

What happens if you go to bed bolloxed at 4.30am? Asking for a friend.

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qat-the-cat@reddit

Hell yeah! Diplomatic immunity is a very generous offering for going to bed on time 😂

As a concept, I think it’s great. Positive incentives are good. In practice, you’d have to account for people who work different shifts etc (like nights) and alter their daily “bedtime” so they don’t miss out on

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RevolutionaryBell364@reddit

It would be like a wake up alarm for burglars across the nation !

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Caddy666@reddit

why?

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Tangie_ape@reddit

As someone who is an astrophotographer and well invested into the hobby now I can’t lie I’m mixed. Id love it as everywhere would be quieter at night and possibly less light pollution but also it would suck to do a hobby that is legal but actively punishes me!

Ok-Train5382@reddit

So we say yes, we go to bed at 9:45 and as a result get lots of benefits and there’s no one checking we’re doing it?

Sure but make it 1am. How do you like it now?

Downdownbytheriver@reddit

Isn’t the end of Match of the Day already National Bed Time?

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ignatiusjreillyXM@reddit

That is a new and accurate definition of "nanny state"

No thanks

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londongas@reddit

Tv license fees waived

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Rayza2049@reddit

Da fuq

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Shitelark@reddit

But then I would be up at 6am, why?

Guess you haven't seen the latest Mushie short: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5YfaRRifWVM

Ok. So if you do this, you get money off bills. Who pays for that? If it is the rest of society, then the simple existence of this program would disadvantage everyone who does not want to be part of it. So it would be forced on everyone else.

I am not sure what diplomatic immunity means in this context.

Careful, we don't want the americans finding out about our secrets. They already know about the Tea Alarm and Angus Steakhouse.

In case this is real and to ensure people get a good night sleep, why not set it at 11pm and have a national wake up at 7am. As this is easier to build around the 9-5 and gives people evenings to enjoy.

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Nelgumford@reddit

Not even my wife and I have a common bedtime.

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Used_Platform_3114@reddit

I’m quite often asleep before 9 so I’d probably miss the bedtime story, but sign me up!

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No-Collection-4931@reddit

ARE YOU KIDDING!!??? What is wrong with you, that makes you suggest such a thing.

Monsoon_Storm@reddit

do we get to choose the public figure? I have several in mind...

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redapplegreengrape@reddit

I have questions.

Do we have to be asleep by 9:45pm or simply just in bed?
What if I’m having one of those nights where I can’t sleep? Am I then punished with a slightly higher bill?
What if I get up to pee at 2:31am? Are some of my club card points deducted?
Will Santa see this and put me on the good list?

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

No, no, no and yes.

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redapplegreengrape@reddit

Ahh. It was the last one I was worried about the most.

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Betrayedunicorn@reddit

9:45? You mentalist. I love big government but only if it agrees with me. I go to bed at like 00:30 but I FEEL like national bedtime is 10:30pm.

Fines if you’re not asleep for 9:50pm

Starmers police driving round to see if anyone’s got their bedside light on still

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cyclingisthecure@reddit

9:45!? God damn vampires how about 8.30

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WiseBelt8935@reddit

i get in bed for 9pm and read a book till about 1am if that helps?

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afungalmirror@reddit (OP)

It does

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