9070 XT vs 5070

Posted by Legitimate_Echo194@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 34 comments

Looking for some advice. I recently purchased at 5070 at MSRP ($550 USD) despite of the negative reviews. I was coming from a 3070 Ti and I figured it would still be a significant upgrade. However, I've had my eye on the 9070 XT as well and had the opportunity to purchase one, however, it was an OC model (PNY) and it costs $730 USD. Not sure if the OC makes a difference, i don't really care tbh. I know these are cards are not a direct comparison and I fully understand that the 9070 XT is the better card. I am more asking about the pricing. I am just not sure if I overpaid for the 9070 XT. I would have rather got a reference spec at MSRP, but that's not too realistic in this environment. Anyways, I am still in the return window for my 5070 and I am wondering if I should return it and go with the 9070 XT or just keep the 5070 and save a little money. Thanks in advance!

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Fickle_Side6938@reddit

5070 is not a bad card, it's just disappointing. There are many things Nvidia does that baffled me. For example they gave it only 12 gb and gave 5060ti 16gb, and it makes no sense since both are using gddr7. On rtx40 I could understand, 4070 had gddr6x compared to gddr6 on 4060ti. That was cheaper than the x version. But now. It's stupid should have been the other way around . 5070 with 16gb would have been a very decent card. Now it all depends on how you play games, if you don't force ultra textures it's ok. Ultra is overrated anyway in my personal view. I'm playing on high. Not very high, not ultra. Here you can add the price difference. At MSRP 9070xt is better for 50 dollars more. You got 5070 MSRP and 9070xt is not MSRP, that changes the comparison a lot. I'd say 9070xt here has a bad value here. You pay for it how much I paid in Europe and I had to add VAT cause that's how taxes work here. For me 5070 has the same price as 9070xt so it's easier for me to choose 9070xt over 5070

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CaptMcMooney@reddit

no, next upgrade you'll buy something else and will probably need the power.

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Frizz89@reddit

Before you return try out MFG 3x and 4x using NVIDIA Inspector on games that dont officially support it. Like Monster Hunter Wilds. Easily triple to quadruple your frames. Dont return before you try it all while in the return period.

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Estbarul@reddit

It baffles me how the first world can just buy 2 GPUs and the ask

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CMDR-LT-ATLAS@reddit

I have three PCs with 4090s... what's your point?

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hennynow@reddit

Like you said, it’s not really comparable. It just depends on your use case and if the money matters to you, around 20% faster for $180

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khaitto@reddit

I’m confused though, wouldn’t that be an argument FOR the 5070? $180 is 33.3% additional dollars for 20% performance gain?

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___pe@reddit

That’s how most gpus are. The better they get, the more and more they will cost. Like yea your paying 30% more for 20% more performance, but the 5090 is 30% faster than the 5080 but is 100% more money

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hennynow@reddit

That’s why it’s just up to the person buying and if they can afford it, obviously the 9070XT is better but how much do you value the performance for price. I’ll see people talk about buying the 5070 for $550 and people will recommend getting the 5070 TI for $200+ more which is just ridiculous

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Kwaruug@reddit

Got my 5070 last week here in toronto for 620 USD. Saw a lot of negative reviews online, so i returned it and add 150 USD for a 9070XT. Its my first AMD gpu.

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Background-Rise-8668@reddit

No. There are no bad gpus, just bad pricing. The 5070 gets larped on a lot but almost 200 more for like 20% more is not worth, using this thinking, might as well pay another extra 180 and get a 5070ti, but then where do you stop?

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evernessince@reddit

The thing is the 5070 only has 12GB of VRAM. $200 for 20% more performance isn't great but you are also getting increased longevity with that as well. The second part of your comment makes no sense, $180 extra on top of the $200 extra for a 5070 Ti when there is almost no performance or longevity benefit doesn't make sense.

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Background-Rise-8668@reddit

No matter how hard you pray, or how much manipulation goes into benchmarking, the 5070ti will always be better than a 9070xt, almost exactly how a 9070xt is better than a 5070. How can you recommend spending extra 180 from a 5070 to 9070xt, but not recommend spending the extra 180 to jump from 9070xt to 5070ti as these 2 scenarios are almost identical. This is why people have budgets, and if you dont stick to it, whats the point of a budget. Why I asked where does it stop? Might as well spork over another 200 bucks for a 5080.

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Laziik@reddit

Yeah, no, on average the 5070ti is 5% faster according to both [GamersNexus](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP0axVHdP-U) and [Hardware Unboxed](https://youtu.be/tHI2LyNX3ls?si=1k8wRHSchvZKnfrr&t=549). So jumping from a 5070 to a 9070 XT is 180$ for 20% more performance and 6GB more VRAM, whilst on the other hand another 180$ will get you a 5070Ti that has 5% more performance, the same amount of VRAM and an icky connector. To be fair you're not the first person i've seen talking about "20% more performance" and i have no idea where anyone got that number from the cards are pretty much neck and neck depending on the game.

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Acrobatic-Bus3335@reddit

Considering most new games implement RT or PT the 5070ti is almost 20% faster than the 9070xt. Also DLSS > FSR4 because it’s supported in 3x as many games as FSR4 is

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Laziik@reddit

Since when are we measuring GPU performance based on its RT capability? Nowhere in the post did the guy mention RT and a 5070 he already has cannot do PT anyways without 4x frame gen and DLSS. DLSS is available in more games and i'd even argue in your favor that DLSS is still better than FSR4, however i'd also argue that most people tend to buy GPU's that can run their games natively with their respective resolution, nobody buys an underpowered GPU just so he can use DLSS and frame gen. If someone games at 4k he'll most likely buy either a 5080 or a 5090, nobody who games at 4k will buy a 5070/ti as the card is simply not good enough. And i'd say a 9070XT given its current price is better value for 1440p native than a 5070ti is. Its just too expensive, everywhere in Europe the 5070ti is still around 1000 euros or more whilst you can already find 9070XT for \~750. So a 250 euros difference (around 270$). Its simply not a good deal. If the difference was 100$ then sure, the 5070ti is a good argument.

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GenderGambler@reddit

>How can you recommend spending extra 180 from a 5070 to 9070xt, but not recommend spending the extra 180 to jump from 9070xt to 5070ti as these 2 scenarios are almost identical. Because the jump from a 5070 to a 9070xt is much, MUCH larger than the one from the 9070xt to the 5070ti? In fact, it's twice as large a jump, as the 9070xt is \~20% faster than the 5070, whereas the 5070ti is barely 10% faster than the 9070xt.

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Acrobatic-Bus3335@reddit

The 5070 is a 1440p card, 12gb of ram is fine. Even with RT enabled I’ve yet to see a game max out vram in 1440p.

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Failathalon@reddit

the gpu’s melting pcie ports and connectors after a very short while are bad gpu’s tbh

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sloppy_joes35@reddit

Can confirm that 5070's connector is crap. Gotta ram jam that thing in hard. And then hope you never have to pull out.

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Legitimate_Echo194@reddit (OP)

Thank you to everyone who responded. This was my first time posting on reddit, you guys are great! I really appreciate the input. As many of you have suggested, I will return the 5070 will stick with the 9070XT, I think the increased VRAM will help with future proofing. Also, I'd feel better spending money on AMD. I wasn't necessarily debating on whether to spend more on a better card (maybe a little), rather, just trying to see if the price was reasonable for the 9070 XT. Maybe I should have worded the post a bit differently. Anyways, thanks again!

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yesswu@reddit

This really depends on your screen resolution and the type of games you play. If you play a lot of AAA games at 4K resolution, go for the 9070XT. If you mainly play online games at 2K resolution, choose the 5070. While the 9070XT has more VRAM, it also faces overheating issues with VRAM temperatures averaging 20 degrees higher. It‘s uncertain whether prolonged use will have any negative effects.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|flushed)

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Gohardgrandpa@reddit

The 9070xt is 20% faster but 32% more expensive. After overclocking the 5070 you’ll be within 10% of the 9070xt. I went with the 5070 this gen as I’m pissed at Amd for the bullshit they pulled with the pricing. Blame tariffs all you want, you can actually buy a msrp 5070 meanwhile amd isn’t releasing any msrp cards, the new msrp is $729.

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AzorAhai1TK@reddit

Blowing almost $200 on a different GPU which will only outperform yours if you don't use DLSS is silly. The 9070XT isn't even faster with an identical image quality comparison (DLSS B vs FSR Q).

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bso45@reddit

730 is a great price. I paid way more than that (for a specific card to meet my builds aesthetic).

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evernessince@reddit

I would keep the 9070 XT. Better performance and crucially 16GB of VRAM, which is going to be important if you like having high quality textures and especially as the card ages. With the 5070 you are going to have to make compromises on what texture quality and features you have enabled (RT eats memory) with current games in the market, let alone 3 years from now.

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spiceman77@reddit

That’s how much I paid on launch coming from a 3070FE and then a 2080ti due to the 3070 frying, and I couldn’t be happier purchasing then vs. now. Prices aren’t going down anytime soon, might as well pay extra and get something that lasts a bit longer than a 5070. That 5070 is basically what the 5060 should’ve been.

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Noeaton@reddit

Does the 730$ include VAT? If yes its completely acceptable if not its a bit expensive. The 5070 is a bad card at a bad price, if it was 600 or even 639 with 16gb vram it would have been great, 12gb and 549 its a bad product

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Legitimate_Echo194@reddit (OP)

Yes, it does include VAT. Thanks for the input, I wasn't really sure if that was a good price or not. I know the OC models are technically "upgraded", but it just seems like a way for companies to charge extra.

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