Increased police/military presence
Posted by Acceptable-House-694@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 178 comments
I live in a small farm community flyover state and I drive my area for work in sales support. For reference I drive about 5-7k miles every 3 months. Most of my travel is highways, interstates, and turnpike. Lately I have been seeing a lot of police presence on the roads. I normally see maybe 1-2 a day, now I'm seeing 8 in an hour. And it's not just one they're doubled up running in teams. Then today I saw ICE/border patrol doing the same thing. In my 1.5 years of doing this job I have never seen them out. The other thing that stuck out was convoys moving military equipment. Being rual when training time comes around they usually drive the convoys, but on two seperate days I have seen 4/6 semis carrying hummers, trucks, apc, etc. all rolling together in a group.
What is everyone else seeing out there?
TDLR: Farm boy ain't never seen so many cops and military vehicles in his small town, wants to know if anyone else seent dat?
That-Attention2037@reddit
Guys; it’s Springtime. Increased traffic enforcement is normal this time of year.
There is a dramatic spike in batshit crazy driving as the weather warms up every single year.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the president or any federal issue whatsoever. I have no reason to lie about it. I’d be the first one sounding the alarm bells if some federal directive or advanced notice was being given on the trampling of rights. I am already quite vocal about the blatant constitutional violations happening currently by this admin.
ayeekay@reddit
Wish you were right but springtime dont bring 20-30 tinted out ford trucks and the odd thing? They dont fit in even in plain street clothes but here's the kicker... they dont fit in around cops either. Entirely different vibe and attitude. While they're storming around not pulling anyone over but just following everyone around, local an state cops are swarming too. Its not normal to see 40-50 undercover suv's, trucks and actual marked cops every day in a 5k person small rural town..
ayeekay@reddit
Oh an not to mention.. this has been going on since last summer sooo if its a case where the fuck is the busts? Youd think a cartel leader was hiding out here its that crazy and irs not just my town its all surrounding towns an cities.
Fredrules2012@reddit
Houston, TX
Increased police presence for sure, I also spend a lot of time in the country north of Houston, usually there is one or two town cops in town all day.
Lately there have been a lot of brand new black Tahoes and Tahoe like vehicles with dark tint and no department/precinct/bureau or whatever which is highly unusual and they sprawl all the way into the country about an hour and a half north of Houston. These are some sort of law enforcement. We have unmarked state police with "In God do we trust" that identifies them as state police in slightly older Tahoes.
Money just came in from somewhere, who the fuck bought all these new vehicles
Meshelllb18@reddit
I saw these in my small town in Michigan today. 3 of them all different colors (tan, white and navy) just on the 2 mile drive and back to pick my daughter up from school. I’ve seen 14 different cop cars the past two days dropping her off and picking her up at school.
MotherEarth1919@reddit
Sounds like the same people who surrounded Lahaina after it burned. Brand new black Tahoes, darkened windows, unidentified “officers with guns. I assume private security provided by Erik Prince and Co.
gamergirlgstring@reddit
maybe i’m just not used to Texas, but…
i mean. really?
Fredrules2012@reddit
Yes! It comes standard as a rear decal, but some choose to get even larger ones in trashier font
Yee-haw 🥲
berkingout@reddit
Are there a lot of migrant workers where you live?
49orth@reddit
This is more likely:
https://medium.com/@aletheisthenes/on-april-20th-2025-the-united-states-will-cross-the-point-of-no-return-0aecac04cfc3
That-Attention2037@reddit
This is nonsense. Can speak from the inside. Absolutely nothing has been mentioned to any local department about any of this. We aren’t a bunch of turn-coats like Reddit would have you believe. If there was some massive martial law conspiracy underway it would hit the media from a leak in an hour or less from local PDs all across the country.
Low-Carob9772@reddit
With all due respect for your service/sacrifices... Do you feel (personal question) in your experience the majority of Leo's and military personnel will follow orders they know are a violation of the constitution and a violation of the rights of their fellow citizens/humans? Or will they actually remember the oath they took and understand what it means to uphold that at all costs? I'm not a conspiracy nut... But... Let's just say the track record isn't on the right side of history in certain scenarios.... Yes I'm purposely being vague as to not seem inflammatory...
That-Attention2037@reddit
Good question. Because we work in the system; we see from the inside how absolutely fucked up it is. Literally everything just… doesn’t work how it’s supposed to. From computer systems, to the entire justice system as a whole. You are not going to find many cops who are going to blindly follow orders to violate rights from a government that has abandoned us just the same as it has everyone else. My honest opinion is that you’d have a difficult time finding a concentrated group of men and women who dislike and distrust the government more than cops.
ThrowAwayGarbage82@reddit
I'm really glad to hear this.
My little anecdotal experience: I live in a very red and rural town in NC (100 miles to the nearest actual city) and the cops here seem very by-the-law and value rights of citizens. There was an anti trump protest here not too long ago (i was surprised) and the cops were all around them acting as lookouts for any trouble or anyone who might try to harm them. It gave me a lot of faith in our little department. Our police chief seems chill AF too.
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YeetedApple@reddit
While I agree it is a bunch of speculation and assumptions, I don't think you can dismiss the concerns just because nothing is being said to local departments. We are very clearly going down towards increasing authoritarianism and these are all common steps that would occur if we continue this way. You almost never see coordination with local police in a situation like this, it just isn't needed. Federal officers and federalized national guard troops would likely be heavily used, and local police would just be expected to enforce new restrictions as they come out.
That-Attention2037@reddit
I agree and the steps he’s written out are the standard script for a collapse of freedom. He’s just acting as if it would happen without snags as some type of fluid process. The government cannot figure out how to make a website function properly. Their ineptitude is laughable yet comforting in the way that they wouldn’t be able to accomplish half of these things with any type of speed or accuracy because they’ve created so much BS red tape and systemic flaws.
MisterRenewable@reddit
Which is why they are moving fast and breaking things by policy. They are installing new command and control and data acquisition systems over the top of existing ones across multiple departments. All without the security models, oversight, and rules about data access that existed before to protect citizen rights and data. They just want to feed everything available into Palantir AI to target immigrants and political opposition. It's the most technofascist system imaginable, and it now knows more about you than you do. So what do you think they are going to do with that all that data and power once they normalize political retribution and extrajudicial rendition?
That-Attention2037@reddit
Bro I’m not sure where you are coming up with this stuff but I believe you need to put down the meth pipe and get some sleep. I’m not even going to begin to dissect your claims because they are based in complete fantasy.
I know that you want to believe that the police departments and justice system as a whole are a large well-oiled machine but it’s not the case. It’s a feat of near impossibility to even get two judges in the same courthouse to agree on a ruling. Unlocking a user account on a government website takes a week and a half. Two police departments ten miles apart don’t even share information on cases the majority of the time.
It would take literal years of work to accomplish any of this nonsense you just spewed. IF there were no resistance from the department heads themselves (which there would be - change is hard for most of these dinosaurs and they’ll fight like hell to prevent it).
Go ahead and cite this “policy” that is intended to break all governmental systems by design. I want to see it on the local, state and federal level. Otherwise it’s purely fiction.
I’ll refer you to Occam’s Razer: “Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.”
YeetedApple@reddit
I think we'll see them try, but think (and hope) you are right about their ineptitude, and that it could be what ultimately stops them from fully getting there. Even if that is the case, there is still a lot of harm that can and will come until we reach the point where their incompetence catches up to them.
impermissibility@reddit
I largely agree with you. While I think many Americans have a well-justified mistrust of LEOs, this essay is just really fantastical and not at all careful. It mostly reads as someone who spends a lot of time on facebook.
That-Attention2037@reddit
Agreed. I want to slam my head against the wall myself reading about some of the stupid shit cops do at times across the country. There is always room for improvement and I would never deny that. It is important to keep in mind how truly isolated these police brutality/rights violations issues are though. 3 million police - public contacts happen every single year. Out of all those, a handful throughout the year make headlines. A few typically go very, very badly and make big waves. The media then likes to misrepresent facts or outright blatantly lie in order to spin outrage and generate website clicks for ad views which returns revenue for them. It is a sick, twisted, fucked up and dystopian system we are living in. The cops are living in it, too.
impermissibility@reddit
I agree 100% with your last two sentences. I suspect you and I would differ on what that necessarily implies for the institution of policing as a whole. But I've got former students who are cops, and where we definitely agree is that the Medium poster just fundamentally doesn't understand at all that most cops sincerely--in their problematic ways, which is maybe where you and I would get back to disagreement--care deeply about their communities, and care about their communities way more than they do about what some random dickheads in Washington, D.C. want.
That-Attention2037@reddit
You might be surprised by how much we’d agree on. The problem in modern policing is primarily systemic. No matter how much progress is attempted; the system is designed so that it sustains itself regardless of interference. The entire machine needs to be rebuilt from scrap.
Society is so focused on left vs right when the problem always has been top vs bottom… and the top is who designed this entire machine with pin-point precision.
MisterRenewable@reddit
Agreed. #ACAB is systemic. Even a good person put into the position eventually becomes ACAB. Like every corporation that might start with decent values becomes purely profit driven at some point in the growth cycle. Retrain and rebuild from the ground up is the only answer. And dismiss most of the Jarhead military types that are only cops to wield power over others and carry firearms in public.
That-Attention2037@reddit
yawn
impermissibility@reddit
Well, I might be surprised, at that! I certainly agree with all you say here.
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smore-phine@reddit
Oh shit, for real?
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watch_this_n0w@reddit
You’re probably right. Most police aren’t turncoats or looking to help build a new Reich.
However, police serve the interests of the wealthy. Plain and simple. Your job is to uphold and enforce laws — it doesn’t matter if they are good or righteous laws. You will be called upon to do your job, and like the police have done in the United States forever, you will do it. You will over police blacks and other minorities. You will enforce unjust laws. You will protect the wealthy. You will assist ICE in deportations. You will simply put, do your job.
Say you won’t, that’s fine. But the truth is in the history of policing in America.
That-Attention2037@reddit
Thanks for your very non-biased, clear-headed opinion. Very helpful and productive.
What I’ll tell you is this: you don’t fucking know me and you sure as hell don’t know my intentions when dealing with an authoritarian government regime.
watch_this_n0w@reddit
Do you always approach strangers with anger or is it just online?
Brother, I never said I knew you. I said I am educated enough to have opened a history book. Was it social workers spraying black people with fire hoses during the Civil Rights Movement? Was it teachers who killed Brianna, George, or so many other Americans?
More than 1200 Americans were killed by the police in 2024. Like it or not, you are part of the largest gang in America. Your organization was responsible for more deaths than MS13. https://policeviolencereport.org/
Sabre_One@reddit
I work ina big tech company. Can confirm that controversial emails/memos get leaked faster to the media then I can open my laptop to read them.
sillylittleflower@reddit
https://americanbazaaronline.com/2025/01/08/national-sheriffs-association-endorses-kash-patel-as-fbi-director-458155/
you are wrong and naive
bs2k2_point_0@reddit
NA Leo. I grew up in a small suburb in New England. An extremely safe place to live. I’ve watched that towns police force go from normal small town typical 90’s police force to having full swat like gear, with an armored personnel carrier type vehicle.
To me the scariest thing is that if shtf, that hardware and power won’t go unused, and I don’t even mean by LEO’s. If god forbid something happens to those LEO’s, that gear may fall into the wrong hands and may not be used for good by good intentioned people.
lcl111@reddit
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kapdad@reddit
This jives with Trump making a comment a month ago when he said there is a 'big, big surprise' in store for Democrats in next year's midterm election and warned blue states will 'totally disappear off the map.'
This April 20th scenario is exactly what I imagined when he said it. Like the writer says, I'm hoping I'm just being paranoid and crazy, but I have been telling people about this chain of events for months, even before he took office.
johnnyringo1985@reddit
“More likely” lol
Yeah, somehow cops all over the country are out in force to prepare, and they’re all staying silent and not leaking any memos or direct instructions from DHS, DoD, or other federal acronym. highly likely /s
melympia@reddit
The cops don't necessarily have to know why they're out there in great numbers. At least not the truth.
johnnyringo1985@reddit
Okay, but the higher ups would know that someone said for there to be more cops out on the streets. And you don’t think somewhere there is one higher up who would leak that memo to WaPo, NYT or CNN?
49orth@reddit
Memo? Under today's Republican Regime, they Gestapo at the top have rooted out they few who might be "disloyal" and the Orange Dictatorship's communications are now done through encrypted, erasable messaging systems so that any and all evidence of law-breaking and abbrogation of the Constitution are forever lost. Lost, like what was good before the Christo-Fascists got elected.
johnnyringo1985@reddit
Federal government doesn’t control sheriffs or local police, so how did they root out the disloyal local cops and sheriffs deputies (they don’t control) all across the country (around 8,000 jurisdictions) in less than 3 months?
Either they miraculously did that without any media coverage, or this sub got grew by 100% after the November elections and now it’s filled with unhinged and paranoid left-wing nuts too preoccupied with TDS to use common sense
Sh4d0w3l1t3@reddit
The second you say TDS, I know you're a "Trump D*** Sucker"
49orth@reddit
Is this an example of TDS?
WASHINGTON, April 7 (Reuters) - The U.S. Justice Department dispatched armed U.S. marshals to deliver a letter warning a fired career pardon attorney about testifying to congressional Democrats, her lawyer said in a letter seen by Reuters on Monday.
“This highly unusual step of directing armed law enforcement officers to the home of a former Department of Justice employee who has engaged in no misconduct, let alone criminal conduct, simply to deliver a letter, is both unprecedented and completely inappropriate,” Michael Bromwich, a lawyer representing fired pardon attorney Liz Oyer, wrote to the Justice Department.
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The Marshals were called off on Friday only after Oyer acknowledged receiving the letter, once she located it in a secondary email that she had not been using to communicate with the department's human resources officials, Bromwich wrote.
While U.S. Marshals deputies are sometimes used to serve congressional subpoenas or protect witnesses, dispatching them to deliver a letter from the Justice Department is unusual, one former official said.
A Justice Department spokesman did not comment.
Oyer, who served as the pardon attorney during President Joe Biden's tenure, was one of several career officials fired by Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche on March 7.
Oyer has since told U.S. media outlets that her firing came shortly after she declined to recommend restoring gun rights to actor Mel Gibson, a supporter of President Donald Trump.
She was one of several Justice Department officials who testified on Monday afternoon before a hearing organized by Democrats in the House of Representatives and Senate about the Trump administration's treatment of the Justice Department and law firms who act in cases disliked by the Republican president.
"I was in the car with my husband and my parents... when I got the news that the officers were on their way to my house where my teenage child was home alone," Oyer told lawmakers.
"Fortunately, due to the grace of a very decent person who understood how upsetting this would be to my family, I was able to confirm receipt of the letter to an email address, and the deputies were called off."
DEMOCRATS BLAST MOVE
Democratic U.S. Senator Adam Schiff of California called the mobilization of the Marshals to deliver a letter an effort to "intimidate and silence" Oyer, while U.S. Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland compared it to a move "ripped straight from the gangster playbook."
In the letter to Oyer, Associate Deputy Attorney General Kendra Wharton said the department has "significant confidentiality interests."
These were particularly strong in Oyer's case because of the role Oyer played in making clemency recommendations for the president, Wharton said, referring to the executive privilege doctrine that shields some presidential communications from disclosure to Congress.
"Should you choose to appear before Congress, the department expects that you will abide by your obligations under the law, Department policy, and the applicable rules of professional responsibility," Wharton wrote.
"Those matters include the deliberative processes that underlie pardons, clemency, the restoration of firearm rights, and related decisions."
Bromwich, in his letter to Blanche, said the claim that Oyer's testimony is barred by executive privilege is "baseless" and that she is entitled to certain legal protections for whistleblowers.
Oyer testified on Monday that the Justice Department's letter did not deter her from speaking the truth, saying, "I will not be bullied into concealing the ongoing corruption and abuse of power at the Department of Justice."
Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch; Editing by Scott Malone, Peter Graff and Bill Berkrot
johnnyringo1985@reddit
What does that have to do with local police or sheriffs?
49orth@reddit
The LEO community is highly Repiblican leaning and as we have seen from too many historical examples, this group is highly susceptible to following orders that may initially seem dubious but something that can be lived with. Then, as more senior members of powerful nationalist agencies increasingly apply great pressure to follow newer and harsher laws enacted by unfettered fascists ruling with impunity, the rank and file law enforcers will quickly drift towards falling in line in doing things they never would have considered weeks, months, or years earlier.
johnnyringo1985@reddit
Back to my original premise: when this post and many comments are about increased LEO presence locally, do you really think that some sort of order went out and absolutely no one who received the order would leak it to the press?
Sh4d0w3l1t3@reddit
The problem is this is set up just like the Qanon conspiracy posts. It's largely framed as fearmongering that gives itself the automatic alley'oop if not all of it happens because they can claim "ha, we foiled their plan by spreading the word"
CandusManus@reddit
This is paranoid gibberish.
Flaky-Argument3248@reddit
Way more cops in our area these days (small town)
Girafferage@reddit
Yup, both marked police and people from other agencies. No idea which agency, but not in police clothing and in an unmarked car while carrying some form of badge next to a firearm at the waist - dressed in button up and slacks.
Prior-Try-299@reddit
Could be private contractors carrying a meaningless badge to look official.
Girafferage@reddit
Open carry is illegal in my state. It would have to be somebody official.
Prior-Try-299@reddit
Or they’re doing it illegally, like everything else they do
Girafferage@reddit
Huh. Fair enough. Hopefully they were at least legally doing whatever they were doing. Some oversight is better than none.
PoolQueasy7388@reddit
Scary.
Girafferage@reddit
I mostly am wondering where they came from. Are people working longer shifts or were there just that many officers who weren't out on patrol before.
EmploymentSquare2253@reddit
I am active duty USAF, my base has had two deployments leave at once since January (normal for only 1 movement at a time) I’m deploying soon which will make three at once, which is super abnormal and high tempo.
There’s also been a lot more cops out doing traffic stops in our city.
imkindofokay@reddit
30 minutes North of Waco TX. For the past three months I've regularly seen white busses with bars on the windows driving south on Texas I-35. I always see them around sundown.
renegadeindian@reddit
FEMA busses. Meth will increase also. Part of the red hat/hate groups stuff. They now control the meth and the fentanyl. Idaho is the northwest hub for distribution.
daarmstrong@reddit
This is so true it's weird.
PentacornLovesMyGirl@reddit
It's not funny. It is concerning. But also, I find this inappropriately hilarious because of course they do
Fredrules2012@reddit
That's either state prison transport or private prison transport, usually the old converted school buses are state
Mountain_carrier530@reddit
While I live in San Diego, there's been a noticeable uptick in police helo presence than before, as in a Bell 206 flying around with a loudspeaker over some neighborhoods. Military presence is still the same amount of helos flying around, but there's about half a dozen bases here anyway.
No-Passage-8783@reddit
Have friends living in Baja who travel back and forth to SD. Wondering how a "closed border" may impact their plans, esp as they come back for medical reasons
NicolePSU@reddit
Ok, so i also live in SD, mission valley area and I was just telling my SO that there seem to be alot more helo's out lately. The military is always doing their thing here, so it's hard to say if there's been a change with that. The jets be jettin' all the time.
RowAccomplished3975@reddit
Heard the other day when it was pretty windy there was a military jet doing some fly by's at one of the lake's here I think it was which is about 30 min away from here. But someone made a comment that it seems they always do this when we have really strong winds. Why that is I don't know.
NicolePSU@reddit
Probably for poor weather practice.
RowAccomplished3975@reddit
Wow that's makes sense Thank you. Not sure why I never realized that.
mel-incantatrix@reddit
I live in a different city center but yesterday I was reflecting on how many helicopters I've noticed over the past few days. Mostly careflight and police. I live near a military airspace so seeing military craft is not unusual.
Virginia_Hall@reddit
Maybe / maybe not potentially related but the 20th is coming up soon:
Per this:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-emergency-at-the-southern-border-of-the-united-states/
there is a possibility that Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 on or about April 20. (See Sec. 6b.)
Instr-FTO@reddit
Farming community? Probably looking for illegals to remove from the country. They did that in several farm communities in CA, AZ, and NM.
noobonthewall@reddit
Central NY ever seince the president's swapped I've seen more and more cops actually pulling people over and such. They would respond to the serious stuff last president's term but no mundane traffic violations or other less serious crimes. (Non violent) It's been literally day and night.
toosells@reddit
Knoxville news said late last month their DUI arrests tripled over the same period the year before. Are people drinking 3 times more than a year before? 3 times as many people driving drunk? Or maybe something else?
random869@reddit
I’m pretty sure I saw a news report where they were falsely arresting people under the influence.
https://fox17.com/fox-17-investigates/tenn-lawmaker-takes-action-after-hundreds-face-wrongful-dui-charges
GoddessRespectre@reddit
Wow I hadn't heard of this, thank you!
DenseFriendship4122@reddit
Probably a combination of things: apparently DUI is increasing nationwide, (most agencies here in South Carolina report increases in both arrests and occurrences) increased population in Knoxville, more states are asking LEOs at all levels to increase enforcement and finally probably more officers on patrol. I wonder if Knox County has seen an increase in that since that agency has started appearing on the show On Patrol Live?
KeepItASecretok@reddit
When the Soviet Union dissolved and the state industry was sold off, huge segments of the population were thrust into extreme levels of poverty. Alcoholism sky rocketed.
I wouldn't be surprised to see something similar happen in the United States as we verge closer to collapse.
RowAccomplished3975@reddit
My youngest daughter told me that Trump signed a executive order to call for martial law in 90 days starting from the first day of his presidency which falls on this coming Easter Day. Was the first time I heard about it but it doesn't surprise me.
Sunandsipcups@reddit
This is a rumor that's only half true.
Trump signed an order that claims an emergency at the border. Demands secretaries of defense, and homeland security, to give detailed reports with guidance on whether Trump should enact the Insurrection Act. Not Martial Law. But still bad.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/investigating-rumor-trump-declare-martial-231400192.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFu8yzVU79n8wHOMYmJCwCmBmkPKnHpQPKJjA8nYzwswAtWd5bwGfePEStRiG_9WOAxG-1d7oTgUVZUheOCZ7cicVGJLXF9u1FOtdcYLcCyhhI53x0xMEvL0-7Pt-xZs8tdEb5mzXOrTrfDrenL7JVlpqejvFyAJGFLdL9XFSEy8
KeepItASecretok@reddit
The insurrection act is essentially Martial law, that is how Martial law is declared in the USA. It was used during the 1992 Los Angeles riots after Rodney King.
Skinny-on-the-Inside@reddit
Yes, it’s already a thing. Look up deaths of despair. Suicides have also been drastically increasing and I don’t think it’s going to improve. :(
incandescent_quokka@reddit
Police agencies had federal funding frozen along with the rest, and I’m not sure if they got it back - they might be trying to make up the deficit with fines.
alternateroutes741@reddit
Given how this year has started I am surprised we all aren’t drunk.
AvoidTheDrama2@reddit
I hope your cake day is nice tho! 🎉🎂
eatmypet@reddit
Drinking has been declining in US. Build up/ redeployment of troops in Afghanistan, though. The US is tiptoeing to war.
Malalang@reddit
I'm glad they're getting those idiots off the roads.
Affectionate-Art-143@reddit
I live in rural Florida and commute about 650 miles per week, mostly up and down 75 in the wee hours of the morning. Definitely been seeing a lot more police out there.
GrouchyAnnual2810@reddit
I didn't understand half of what he said, really. The slang kills me, 😆 but I get it. Coming from this Okie, Y'all talk differently .. just saying... Lol
SimpleCapable6339@reddit
Not Midwest but I had x2 A10 Warthogs quite obviously doing strafing run maneuvers for practice in the Shenandoah Valley (VA) - they were so close to the ground I thought they were going to hit the tree line (not being overly dramatic). I served 9 years in the Army (AD), outside of the Army I’ve lived in this area my entire life and not once has this happened. Not going to lie, I thought **** was hitting the fan.
Present_Figure_4786@reddit
Private prisons need inmates to turn a profit
Capital_Candle7999@reddit
I recall that during the Obama administration, there was a great deal of concern in some quarters of a martial law, military take over. There were groups who would watch military bases, interstate highways ,railway lines and air traffic for increased military activity. Some of these groups took this short of thing very seriously. Well, guess what? It didn’t happen. I don’t think there are enough troops and police to enact martial law. Remember, during the Iraq War, it took two army divisions to hold Baghdad. How many would it take to control Houston or Chicago?
brbgonnabrnit@reddit
Haven't seen much of military or guards activity but I agree with you on more police presence. I assumed it had to do with the deportation.
Comfortable_Prize750@reddit
I suspect deportation is likely if you're seeing a lot of Sheriff deputies. MANY Sheriff departments are working closely with ICE. Less so with PD's.
Onlyroad4adrifter@reddit
Been seeing more military choppers and planes in my area. Cops have been thick also. Much like how they would be during a holiday. I too drive a lot.
854490@reddit
Cops are kind of thick all the time though
DenseFriendship4122@reddit
I'm not sure that I'm seeing more per se, but all agencies are definitely being more visible. Invest in a portable scanner and a CB radio (and good antennas for both) and you'll know before you know who's doing what, especially in rural areas.
LunchPretty7867@reddit
Are vice president is selling foreclosed farm houses and farms to other countries and they're buying them so when you see farms that didn't get their their loans like they were supposed to get that they were promised and they foreclosed on these big farms and they've been selling them our vice president has been selling them he has a business now that he opened that sells farmland that's been that's been in foreclosure he's been selling it to foreign countries and they're buying them that's another reason they're probably buying them to put the military equipment there or who knows
594896582@reddit
Northern border or Southern? East, West, or central? Just trying to determine whether or not I should be concerned.
Danger-D00M@reddit
As of late, you should always be concerned.
594896582@reddit
I'm not going to sit around worrying about an invasion if they aren't moving troops and equipment to my border. If they do, I'll be moving back to my homeland much further north.
Danger-D00M@reddit
If you are worried about the US invading Canada, or Mexico, you shouldn’t be. That’s one thing I’m 98% on barring something extreme.
594896582@reddit
With this guy, he's too erratic and irrational to trust anything other than if military staging occurs, or it doesn't... or hope they invite the wrong people to their signal chats again.
Pin-Due@reddit
Same thing in our small town. The reasoning I get is they expect more civil disobedience as people lose their govt support programs. We have a high % of the population armed and ready to take up malita. So the local police are getting ready along with military reserves in the area.
This is a stark difference from 6mo ago when our area was a quiet and sleepy town. Shame to see this happen in America like we live in a 3rd world country.
rocksareweird@reddit
National guard was called by the governor and recently arrived in albuquerque and I think las cruces, but that might be part of the militarization of the border.
I don’t live in albuquerque but moved nearby last year and watch their news. She says it’s to “assist police with handling the crime problem” but the mayor -while fully backing her order- said the numbers have been dropping for all crimes for months. The crime is bad, but it’s been “getting better”. I don’t see any event that triggered her order. And they’re saying the national guard won’t be acting as LE, just “supporting”. It’s very weird. Feels like they have some other plans.
Quiet-Jello6349@reddit
I’m in Portland. I’d never seen a Blackhawk before until last week one was flying over the city
Unusual_Specialist@reddit
I live in the PNW, we have been seeing license plates on the freeway from places we wouldn’t normally see like the south, midwest, and east coast. Noticed the increase police presence as well. Curious what is going on.
MotherEarth1919@reddit
Also I am seeing military transport vehicles on H18 headed toward I 90 East every day this week. Not uncommon to see but not every day common.
bristlybits@reddit
yep
ALLCAPITAL@reddit
Live in a suburb of the KC area. Felt the same. Been here 6 years and felt like I barely ever saw the police. Last 2 months I’m seeing multiple patrol cars when I drive and a new truck that I have seen repeatedly. Figured it was just random and maybe small sample size variance, but seeing this post and the comments makes sense.
Grasscutter101@reddit
What do you mean by new truck.
ALLCAPITAL@reddit
Like I’ve never seen a police vehicle that was just a pickup truck. But I’ve seen it a few times now.
xXjustin_credibleXx@reddit
Hello fellow Kansas city dweller. KS or MO side?
ALLCAPITAL@reddit
KS
xXjustin_credibleXx@reddit
Same
-TheAutist-@reddit
First week and last week of the month is quota meeting time usually for all departments.
OneandonlyBuffy@reddit
Here’s my question. Out of the 25 million illegal invaders, approximately 80% or more were military age fit men. Between 18 and 50. Where are they? Where did they go? Why that demographic?
doomerdoodoo@reddit
I have noticed an increased presence, too. I for one don't feel safer. Feels like an intimidation tactic. We all know how they voted.
That-Attention2037@reddit
Do you know?
Blueporch@reddit
Union folks usually vote democrat, don’t they?
SeriousBuiznuss@reddit
When an Amazon Union faces repression, it is from local police.
Cops are not union aligned.
gamergirlgstring@reddit
the only union cops like is their own. it’ll advocate for their right to shoot a guy and get a raise for it
That-Attention2037@reddit
Our unions protect us from fucked up admin within the department the overwhelming majority of the time they’re used. You’ve no idea how much backstabbing goes on within PDs. Just keep on regurgitating the bullshit you’re fed on the internet though. It’ll get you far in life.
gamergirlgstring@reddit
homie. my entire family from grandparents to uncles to in-laws are cops in their local police unions. been pressing the siren button in their cruisers since before i was potty trained. i promise you i don’t need “bullshit on the internet” to know why police unions suck, and i’m sorry if that offends you 😭
That-Attention2037@reddit
Oh cool. Ain’t nothing quite like second or third hand experience to create an unmatched level of expertise, huh?
Homie; I’ve been doing this for 15 fuckin years.
The only thing I’m offended about is the unabashed, generalized smearing opinion you’ve felt obliged to share. Not because I feel some need to defend police unions but because I’m so sick and tired of loud-mouthed idiots having a platform to share bad information.
gamergirlgstring@reddit
soooo i take it that did offend you.
i’m gonna let you take a breather, go shoot a dog or something babe
Absurdkale@reddit
I live near a huge joint air base. No more traffic than usual at the moment.
Hippiefarmchick@reddit
We are militarizing because it’s not serve & protect anymore. It’s seek & destroy.They are the enemy.
Danjohnson857@reddit
Never was serve and protect that was a hollywooc marketing/or slogan. Kops have their origins as runaway slave patrol and the “back the blue” tards bout to have a rude awakening
Longjumping_Bid4194@reddit
I've noticed the same thing occuring in central Ohio
19610taw3@reddit
Nothing much here that I've noticed
But trump has $46,000,000,000 in the budget for camps where he will concentrate undesirables. I believe he's going to build them and start rounding up illegal immigrants, LGBTQ+
cross_x_bones21@reddit
Also in Michigan. Most of them are sleeping in their vehicles or playing on their phones, though.
PROOF_PC@reddit
Charlotte NC here
More police lately, police helos flying around more often, but just as many people driving without tags on their cars & running red lights as usual so idk what the cops are up to
TemporaryAardvark907@reddit
Yes- I live in a small town in Western MA and the police presence has increased maybe 2-3 fold. I used to see maybe 2 cars a day, lately it’s been closer to 8.
Warm_Yard3777@reddit
I also live in a flyover area, semi rural area. I commented a few days ago about seeing a lot more helicopters than usual. I think I've seen more helicopters in the past month than I have in the past 10 years.
Ff-9459@reddit
I’ve noticed way more police presence in Indiana too. I haven’t personally seen ICE, but a lot of people have.
Kundalini_knight@reddit
Might have something to do with reckless 18 wheeler drivers, I noticed a ton of big rigs driving like assholes last time I drove out west, passing in the left lane at 85 mph+ etc. Big rigs are basically 80% of what you see on the highway in the flyover states. A lot of new drivers and immigrants have been put behind the wheel of big rigs due to a labor shortage and now people are realizing it's a big safety issue.
Demarinshi01@reddit
As someone who lives in a small military training camp area, I’m always seeing military vehicles on the highway (literally my backyard. I have notice a huge uptick in the past month, but that did also include a lot of military folks helping the community north of me with their major ice storm (not hard to figure out where I am). Even now that power and everything is back, I’m able to hear and see multiple convos on the highway (literally right now). Yes some are heading north to help clear the down trees and clean up more, but also training. Only hear one or two helps a day, but it’s unusual since they won’t start any major training for a few more weeks. I know the major training for two weeks don’t happen til August, and between now and then it’s a few units training weekly.
BlueLilyM@reddit
I'm on the Oregon coast, and it's been the opposite for us in terms of military plane activity. For the last several years every day a huge military plane would fly over around 9 pm. I would look on flight aware to see what it was, I don't remember the details, but it was one of the big ones that refuels other planes in the air. The last couple months, I haven't heard it once.
New_Vast_4505@reddit
I saw a convoy of about a dozen humvees with turrets and some personal transports cruising down the highway yesterday.
Acrobatic_Prompt2293@reddit
North East ohio can confirm
mj9311@reddit
Checking in from upstate NY and I have definitely noticed a larger than average police presence in my daily travels.
crispin69@reddit
We live near the airport for our city, a lot more black and army helicopters flying so low that our house has been rattling (never happened in the two year previous we have lived here).
scenr0@reddit
Airbase near me has been sending big big planes overseas. Last week a passenger plane (not the norm) left the base to Poland. They're doing a bit more than the usual training runs.
DaNostrich@reddit
I work next to an airbase that is a common refueling spot for middle eastern bound flights and I’ve seen a large increase in military planes coming and going, Saturday I heard and saw a handful of fighter jets taking off. Likely training but it’s still a lot busier than it’s been since I started working here
scenr0@reddit
Definitely always good to keep an eye out. Their landing and taking off can be viewed from our place (granted its miles away, but flat) so we're always looking at flightradar. Sometimes they take off and aren't on the flightradar app. >_>
DaNostrich@reddit
Yeah several fighter jets took off Saturday but nothing in flight radar, definitely watching
DaNostrich@reddit
https://www.bangordailynews.com/2021/06/24/news/bangor/german-fighter-jets-shook-bangor-residents-on-thursday-as-they-took-off-from-bia/
Open5esames@reddit
I have also been seeing a ton more police cars than normal. My assumption is that they have been told to drum up revenue. Those tickets and fees support local government, and if we are in a recession, sales tax revenue will be down.
SubstantialDig3873@reddit
We love when you talk farm boy to us, Prepper 😎
ThickChunkyLoad@reddit
The comments here seem more like conspiracy theorizing than anything having to do with being prepared for catastrophe, so I would like to share my humble opinion.
Total government takeover seems as highly unlikely today as ever. Sure, the political climate is bad right now; but a full scale coup d'état? Please.
I was in military intelligence for a while, and in that time I bounced around several elite JSOC units (as support, not trying to steal valor). I have to say, those groups have two attributes which give me constant solace:
They VERY SERIOUSLY mind the United States of America, and they VERY SERIOUSLY mind the constitution. A coup would be a blatant example of a "threat both foreign and domestic". The leadership there knows more about everything going on politically than we do, and they are not stupid. In fact, they are frighteningly intelligent and cunning.
Whatever JSOC sets its mind to WILL BE DONE.
Retake the capitol from a group enacting a coup, now officially labeled seitious? Fuck me running 🏃♂️ I would honestly feel bad (not an exaggeration) for any fucks dumb enough to try it. COULDN'T HAPPEN. They would be up against, at least, the full might of: Delta Force, Special Forces, SEALS, 75th Ranger regiment, Force Recon, Raiders, pararescue Supermen, to name some.
Now, in the craziest fall of the West scenario imagineable, those groups would die fighting... DIE FIGHTING... for the idea of our liberal democracy. If they were able to muster a coordinated martial action with a single big ass air or motorized group? FORGET IT. Literally no force on Earth could withstand it. Anything, tanks, planes, helos, armored cars. Done.
I don't think many people who freak out because some more police are out actually doing their fucking job for a change really don't understand the big ol' world we live on.
Everyone is going on with this weird shit about [anything] is proof Drumpf is gonna 'take over'. How? What is the strategy? The only thing that makes anything secure in the US is, really, the military. Military keeps our sovereign nation defended. Military keeps the government safe in every aspect. Without them Putin or Xi or Kim would walk into to Oval Office and put their feet on the desk.
So, who the fuck is going to keep seditious treasonists safe? Not the military. And without that NONE of them will be safe. Their protectors will become their persecutors. It just doesn't make sense 🙃 At that point the soidiers, sailors, etc. will have a personal reason to fight, and it'll be on their home turf. Anyone diluted enough to think the military is gonna flip with treasonous actors... nope. Mabey some tiny group, but the military is larger than most people can imagine.
What is happening politically in America today is rough, it isn't pretty, it is not what most people want, but IT IS STILL CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY. Nothing illegal has been ordered from the top. Sure, this group today is using some underhanded legal maneuvers, but if and when the day comes where orders are being given to imprison citizens without due process or worse, it will be met with a resistance that has defeated entire nations it was unfamiliar with. And people want to say, "But they'll use PrIvAtE MiLiTaRy CoMpAnIeS". Dumb. No force on Earth has 1/10th the ammount of fight-ready personnel as the US military. Fuck, JSOC alone probably outnumbers all US PMCs combined, AND they are the deadliest force on planet Earth. So, again, anyone could try, but none will succeed in a takeover. And anybody who knows anything knows that, including the boogiemen you fear.
malitia-man23@reddit
Noticing the same im south rural Missouri
RedRoseCoatedInHoney@reddit
Howard county Indiana has had basically all of its officers on patrol for weeks
Resident-Enthusiasm9@reddit
Yes, literally talked to mi momma about that today, we got a small farm in southern AZ, but it appears to be an increase in the city cops, not so much the sheriffs, but the border patrol has definitely started to increase here recently (within the last two weeks or so)
raziridium@reddit
We live near several major military bases, an international airport, and in the suburbs of an up and coming metro area on the East Coast and I can't say I've seen more than usual. Take that for what it's worth.
Patient_Ad1801@reddit
In my city the PD pretty much quit doing their jobs for the previous 4 years. They wouldn't even show up to anything but the most egregious crimes. Now that their boy is back, they are out in force all day, more and more.
renegadeindian@reddit
Want yo get rid of them. Start calling in the red hat meth dens and report the drug houses and possible illegals there!!😆😆😆. They go ing and it ties them up at a meth bust!!😆😆😆. Then they are not writing tickets for 1 over the limit!!
Zephyr_Dragon49@reddit
I did. Everything from little town police, a bunch of sheriff deputies from multiple counties, and a few state police even. It wasn't long after that my town announced a crackdown on people who are severely behind on child support. They probably ambushed plenty by that time and word was getting out
TNJCrypto@reddit
There were 1000 people in a 1500 population town who surrounded Tom Homan's home to protest the wrongful incarceration of a family. They are scared, I've seen ICE on the streets but have not seen any arrests yet. Resistance will continue to grow until there is conflict and then there will be lock down, Trump will use protests and non-compliance to call for martial law and either the military follows orders or abandons der fuhrer.
SecretCoyoteMoon5@reddit
My concern is that he'll use the excuse of a border security issue and declare martial law on the border...aka most Blue cities throughout the country.
Complete_Pack2570@reddit
Indianapolis IN here - we had a weird couple of military jet flyovers in one day and this happened in the last 2 months. I live in a neighborhood near downtown and the sound was so sharp (like from breaking the sound barrier?) that it made my ears hurt. Homes were shaking.
Not what you asked but also sharing….I always kind of watch here because I’ve noticed increases in activity over the years during times of conflict. For example, over covid I was downtown in my dad’s apartment overlooking the train tracks and we saw one train with hundreds, like 200, tanks, communication vehicles, etc. passing through the city.
It’s great we share these things.
hobiwankinobi@reddit
Live kinda near Grissom air force base. Probably about 35 miles away? The amount of jet noise has increased dramatically since January of this year. I live in a town with a population of maybe 300. Nearest big airport is about 100 miles south
breakitoffright@reddit
Live near an Air Force base as well, the amount of air presence has been staggering since January here as well
TheBirdBytheWindow@reddit
I'm in AZ smack dab between two major military bases. No increase in air traffic but man have the cops hit the highways of late!
Cruise control is my best bud.
lawlesss5150@reddit
I’m near DM and they’ve been flying to the desert to do maneuvers it feels like more than usual. Might just be a new training exercise thing but it’s noticeable in the south east of the state.
Malalang@reddit
I'm in Northern Montana, and while we're very close to the Canadian border, I never saw border patrol sitting, watching the roads like I have seen them doing lately. I used to see it in sourthern California along the 15, but never up here.
I can't drive from one town to the next without seeing a white and green border patrol truck parked perpendicular to the road.
The reservation just recently installed license plate tracker cameras at the borders in order to locate drug runners. They bragged that this technology would allow them to communicate with law enforcement across the country. And that they would be able to follow any vehicle in real time. They promised that this information would be held in strict confidentiality. While I'm happy to see a massive effort to stop the flow of meth and fentanyl, I highly doubt that this is all they are going to use it for.
VolumeNeat9698@reddit
The 1% of fent that comes into the US from Canada, 41lb compared to 21,900lb from mexicos side? The “reason” to put the states into a state of emergency, even though more guns & drugs are caught coming from the US into Canada?
Malalang@reddit
Yeah, they know the fent is coming from the south. They have tracked several vehicles from a particular area of California.
I'm sorry to have given the impression it was Canadian surveillance. Nobody has cared about the border for forever. That's why it's so unusual to see so much border patrol activity.
Sufficient-Peach5797@reddit
They’re everywhere where I live. What’s up with that?
vivaciousvixen1997@reddit
I live somewhat close to an army base & their air traffic has definitely increased.
Flying_Madlad@reddit
Thanks for giving us any idea where you're talking about. Also, please find some other sub.
e377jr@reddit
Los Angles Suburb here, a lot more military helicopter flying overhead and just started noticing military convoys the last couple months. They were rare to see now I see them weekly.
quirkygirl123@reddit
Kansas City: a fleet of black helicopters multiple times flying around. They say it's a military training?
Strange-Ad2470@reddit
The story I’m telling myself is more of a hell yeah Joe Biden is gone We can get back to work.. nothing nefarious..
Strange-Ad2470@reddit
Yeah I’ve noticed more presence as well. Thought I was being picky but now that you bring it up. This along with flock cameras and ai… things can get