I hate how racism is now an excuse for violence. Constantly you hear people say “he was using racial slurs blah blah blah” and it’s bullshit. There will be witnesses I’m sure so we’ll see what actually went down
I think what’s most likely is initially it was simply a desire by Anthony to want to get out of the rain, but it was immediately backed up with latent racial tension against whites, an underlying sense of entitlement to retaliate violently if touched in any way by another, and a severe sense of bravado from packing a hidden weapon. It’s these issues that will all unfortunately get him sent away for decades.
He’s already raised over $270,000 on givesendgo. The comments there from donors are absolutely disgusting. Basically cheering him on for killing a white kid and blaming the victim.
It would not. Stand your ground relies on the idea that you have at least some reasonable belief that you belong on the ground you’re standing. I.e. your own private property, or public ground with free access. In this case the accused was inside a semi private area of a rival team. Stand your ground rules would actually tend to show why this accused actions were violating the victims rights.
lol. I actually thought you meant pink! (And you can edit your post)
And you’re not required to retreat, that’s one of the legal provisions, but you also can’t have provoked the altercation, which he certainly did do. So the stand your ground self defense protection will certainly not apply here. Additionally, the court will likely see his actions as a form of trespassing, remaining in an area he wasn’t authorized to be in and refusing to leave when asked. While maybe not amounting to criminal trespassing, this will likely add to the courts view that stand your ground would not apply.
No, in any legal analysis, this accused will not be able to rely on stand your ground.
Legitimate questions here. Does it matter if you provoke the altercation? How is provocation defined? Did Zimmerman not provoke the altercation that led to Trayvon Martin’s death?
And why was he not authorized to be in that area? It is public right? It may not be the designated area but what law is being violated?
I know I’m late to this but this is what the Texas law says:
* The burden of proof for self-defense falls on the defendant.
* Self-defense claims are evaluated on a case-by-case basis, considering the specific circumstances and the reasonableness of the actions taken.
* The use of force must be proportionate to the threat.
The force used in self-defense must be reasonably necessary to stop the threat. * The person using force cannot have provoked the confrontation.
The law applies when a person is in a place where they have a right to be, such as their home, vehicle, or place of busines•
* The force used in self-defense must be proportionate to the threat. If someone pushes you, a push back might be justifiable, but punching them would likely be excessive.
* If you hit someone as an immediate reaction to being pushed, it could be seen as retaliation rather than self-defense.
Justifying the force used in self defense was necessary is exactly what his lawyers will do. As well as arguing their client did not provoke the confrontation.
Provoking a confrontation means being the one to start the disagreement or escalate a disagreement into a fight. Provoking the confrontation isn’t the only way one can lose the stand your ground legal defense, if that’s what you’re asking.
The Zimmerman/Martin case was in a different state, and I don’t know what their stand your ground laws were. I’m also not entirely familiar with the facts in that case. If I remember correctly, Zimmerman was walking around his neighborhood, ostensibly as a security guard, watching Martin walking and supposedly thought at one point that Martin was going to turn at him and attack him, and Zimmerman shot and killed Martin. Correct me if I’m wrong? If I’m right about these details, the differences here would be Zimmerman wasn’t carrying his weapon illegally, Zimmerman had a right to be where he was, in the neighborhood, and even in the capacity of neighborhood watch person. (I believe he was officially affiliated with the neighborhood watch?) I believe Zimmerman defense was that he was not provoking the altercation, that in fact he believed Martin was, or was about to attack him. My personal opinion is that Zimmerman’s actions were likely not legal, but as I haven’t studied that case much I also don’t think my opinion should hold much water.
In this case, Anthony was certainly carrying the weapon against the codes and restrictions of that facility. Anthony was inside another team’s clearly defined team area. This is not in violation of city code or anything, but is likely in violation of school district team sports policies. Imagine it like a 17 year old boy going into a girls locker room where girls are changing clothes and taking showers. The boy is not allowed to enter and people would react strongly to his presence there.
“Texas doesn’t require retreat in a dangerous situation, so yes. But let’s be clear that it only means there’s no duty to retreat. You can only use deadly force in response to the other person’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.”
Per a response from an account claiming to be a criminal defense attorney answering my question if stand your ground applies in this post.
His response mostly points at another portion of the stand your ground laws, the part about level fo force. This is accurate and in this case would seem to make it unlikely Anthony would be seen as justified for pulling a knife when he was only being grabbed by his shirt sleeve (or similar) and no punches were being thrown or even threatened.
He brings up the idea of the law not requiring someone to have to retreat, BUT that's assuming the person has a legal reason to be standing where they were standing. And that would be arguable in this case for sure.
And last, his quote doesn't address what I said about provocation. And that's another loser for Anthony.
I wasn’t really arguing whether it would work or not. Or if I even agree. Just if it was an argument that can be presented in court. I was certain Zimmerman was guilty but he was acquitted and many parallels can be drawn from the two events.
That’s very odd. If you have the choice of attempting to discern what’s possible to argue versus what is correct, and you choose what’s possible to argue, it would seem you’re making the wrong choice. Seeking truth leads to greater enlightenment.
And in my post I was demonstrating exploring possible arguments and carrying them out to their logical conclusions to find the truth of the matter. Your response was that you were not interested in deriving the truth of the matter, only in finding out which arguments could be brought at trial. Either you’re being duplicitous, or you don’t understand what you’re saying.
Yes I’m not interested in “deriving the truth” until more details surface. I’m willing to wait until all evidence is presented in court. Not trying to convince myself I’ve considered every possible scenario and outcome.
I wasn’t really arguing whether it would work or not. Or if I even agree. Just if it was an argument that can be presented in court. I was certain Zimmerman was guilty but he was acquitted and many parallels can be drawn from the two events.
“Texas doesn’t require retreat in a dangerous situation, so yes. But let’s be clear that it only means there’s no duty to retreat. You can only use deadly force in response to the other person’s use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.”
Per a response from an alleged criminal defense attorney answering my question if stand your ground applies in this post.
Sounds like Anthony has no standing case of self defense. They will seek a plea of guilty for a lesser charge. They don’t want this going to trial. Kid prob has digital evidence of saying and doing things that would not reflect self defense.
Self defense against murder 1, is extremely risky. He may go for life. If he can get the DA to agree to lessen the charges, accept a plea, he could do significantly less time. He admitted he did it. So it’s not a matter if, but why. And frisco may not care. I think his attorneys are going to try their best to do what they can to ensure he serves less time then what a murder 1 trial verdict would do.
Is that not what a decent atty would do? Bc 50 plus witnesses, frisco aka Collin county, its stacked against this kid already.
There is no murder 1 charge in Texas no matter what the article says. Texas has four tiers of criminal homicide; Criminally Negligent Homicide, Manslaughter, Murder and Capital Murder.
Plus, I highly doubt this would even be a murder 1 case, even if they had the charge in TX.
Murder 1 is premeditated. This totally smells like high school shenanigans bullshit that took a bad turn.
I believe the kid is guilty, but i don’t believe he left his house that morning, with the idea of committing murder and then specially targeted the other kid.
It’s murder that is punishable by capital punishment i.e. the death penalty. It's murder accompanied by a specific set of circumstances such as murder committed during the commission of another felony, murder of a peace officer, murder of someone under the age of 6, murder of multiple people. I think there are a few other ways to get that sort of charge.
That’s different than taking the weapon to an area where it is strictly not allowed. Using a random alleyway to describe this is just wrong. It would be more like bringing a gun into an NFL game and then shooting someone when they shoved you in line.
\>He brought a knife to a track meet
A lot of people carry a knife. I have a knife in my pocket almost all the time. I have never stabbed anyone. It is a big jump to assume that anyone carrying a knife plans to use it as a weapon.
Carrying a knife on school property is only illegal if the blade is over 5.5 inches long. We don’t know how long the knife was yet. And if it was longer than 5.5 inches I think we’d have seen him charged for that as well by now.
I have seen a lot of people say this. They take a law that a carried knife should not exceed 5.5 inches most places. They also fail to continue to read that it is a lesser felony to bring a knife to school. They just stop reading when they think they have the answer. I also confirmed this with local law enforcement.
Student code of conduct policies are different than the law. You can be in violation of school code of conduct without being in violation of the law. Which is why in the school code of conduct it specifically mentions pocket knives and small blades separately from “location restricted knife, as defined by state law”.
https://www.friscoisd.org/docs/default-source/resources-information/frisco_isd_scoc.pdf?sfvrsn=bccd42d7_1
And in the code of conduct it references the penal code in the glossary and the 5.5in blade limit.
>I have a knife in my pocket almost all the time.
Well, if you go to a location that restricts knives, you're committing a felony. Like that kid did just by having the knife at a school function.
\>if you go to a location that restricts knives, you're committing a felony.
No, that only applies only to knives with a blade length that exceeds 5 1/2" and it is a misdemeanor.
I haven't heard a thing about what kind of knife he used.
https://www.tasb.org/resources/esource/fact-sheet-on-location-restricted-knives-at-school
>"In general, it is a felony to possess a location-restricted knife on the physical premises of a school, any grounds or building on which a school-sponsored activity is being conducted, or a school passenger transportation vehicle."
If it was a pocket knife it was still banned for students. That might not be a felony but it is grounds for expulsion.
That is undisputed.
The issue here is *was it murder or was it self-defense.*
That is the matter for the finder(s) of fact to decide.
It is going to come down to who/what they believe from the witnesses' testimony.
Quit trying to cloud the water. How many high school kids legally carry guns to school?
Because this was a crime between two children, at a school function, on school property.
That’s not relevant. One would be guilty for carrying in a gun free zone not premeditated murder. Just carrying a weapon wouldn’t establish premeditated anything.
Carrying a knife or even a gun has nothing to do with premeditation. You would have to prove that the defendant made the decision of going somewhere with the specific purpose of trying to physically harm someone rather than getting into a heat of the moment altercation.
I live in Frisco, we have seen a lot of talk about text from Anthony regarding "I'm going to stick someone today" anyone's guess if they're true or not. It is also "local knowledge" that it was a kitchen knife. If those are true his ass is cooked.
I heard the same thing, he supposedly sent some texts talking about wanting to stab someone that day.
Who knows, tons of information flying around. Just got to allow the justice system to work. I just hope if he gets found guilty they aren’t lenient on him. Anybody guilty of murder should get maximum punishment
I'm not sure why you're being downvoted, if it's truly self defense it's not a murder. Since murder implies an illegal killing and self defense is not illegal in Texas.
I wasn't aware there was a specific action necessary to become self-defense. Also what we've been told is that contact between the two had been made immediately before the stabbing, it wasn't just being told to move.
Why are people just making stuff up?
I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but use of a deadly weapon for self-defense will only qualify as self-defense if the perp can prove he had reason to believe his life was in danger *or* he was at risk of grave bodily injury.
He seemingly acknowledged he wasn't at any risk of bodily injury when he said "touch me and see what happens." Unless his defense can come up with a ton of witnesses that say Metcalf was threatening to beat the shit out of him or something, self defense just isn't going to fly, with what we know.
It says right there in the article that "Metcalf grabbed Anthony to move him, according to a witness" - Grabbing and putting hands on someone is not "being told to move"
Not misinformation.
"The witness said Metcalf told Anthony to leave. Anthony allegedly grabbed his bag, opened it, reached inside, and said, "Touch me and see what happens."
[https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/family-of-karmelo-anthony-share-condolences-over-fatal-stabbing-of-frisco-isd-student/](https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/family-of-karmelo-anthony-share-condolences-over-fatal-stabbing-of-frisco-isd-student/)
And then Metcalf put his hands on him.
The kid was told to move, and before any contact was made reached for his knife.
You keep saying “Austin told Anthony to leave”. So fucking what! He had zero authority or right to demand, let alone force Karmelo to leave. None. He was forcing his will on another person, and assaulted him when he did t comply.
Nobody here has said that deserves a death sentence, so dont try to put those words in my mouth, but neither party here is innocent. Austin assaulted Karmelo, and that was followed by Karmelo stabbing Austin, that’s from multiple witnesses.
The problem with self-defense is that he has to prove he was legitimately in fear for his life. It's a pretty big burden to meet at a school track event.
Fear of serious bodily injury is also an acceptable use, and there is no duty to retreat in Texas. This applies to any public space, not just your home and car.
Obviously none of us have the facts of the case, but, just as rumors of karmelo saying he wanted to stab someone are out there, so are there rumors that karmelo had previously been assaulted by Austin, and the witness statements say he was assaulted by Austin prior to being stabbed.
There’s a lot of gray area in the law, and the burden of proof for a criminal conviction is high, so nobody knows how this will shake out.
He’s getting downvoted bc that’s exactly how you get off on murder. Convincing a jury the DA is reasonably incompetent. If your defense is self defense, then precisely, how is murder and especially premeditated? If his atty can convince them there is reasonable doubt it was murder, he gets off.
Like? He admitted it. He said he did it. This isn’t OJ. He can’t just get out of admitting to killing someone without some sort of legal defense and reason.
i'm no lawyer so take this with a pillar of salt, but I think if you go to trial then self-defense is an affirmative defense, meaning the defendant has to prove to the court that they meet the standard for justifiable homicide by reason of self-defense. so basically if it's found to be self-defense, then that's that, otherwise it then proceeds to trial for the first degree murder charge.
hopefully someone who's a lawyer or just more knowledgeable can elaborate where i'm wrong lol
I'm a criminal defense lawyer, and I just want to say there's a lot of bad info in this thread. I'm responding to this comment but my critiques aren't necessarily directed at your comment.
You're pretty close on the burden of proof regarding self defense. The law is that, at trial, the defendant has the burden of proving by SOME evidence that he may have been entitled to use deadly force under the law in this situation. If there's any evidence of that, regardless of its credibility, the jury will be instructed that they can consider self defense. The prosecution has the burden to DISPROVE self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. All of this happens during the trial. It's not like it's determined before trial that self defense will be a jury instruction
Texas doesn't require retreat in a dangerous situation, so yes. But let's be clear that it only means there's no duty to retreat. You can only use deadly force in response to the other person's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force.
Actually, the DA has to prove the claim. The DA is the one with the responsibility of proving their argument is fact. Defense only has to create reasonable doubt. If they stick to murder in the first, their risk of getting off on a technicality based solely on premeditation may make them more likely to accept a plea of a lesser degree. Proving pre med is harder to do than proving self defense. DA is charging him this way to make a point. However, if the DA remains with murder in the first, and don’t accept pleas, they have reason and evidence to prove he carried that knife for a purpose.
The person self defense isn’t an argument is not getting it. DA can charge me with whatever they want, it’s THEIR claim to make. All my lawyer has to do is create reasonable doubt against the DA. If they only charge him with M1 and nothing else, then his defense should be self defense bc then taking the premeditated part of it would be a clear path to readable doubt.
He already admitted to stabbing him. He already claimed it was self defense. The kid will be lucky to get 15 or less. If he fights this, he’s looking at 25 to life.
Interesting — if it was second degree murder then would the defense need to make an affirmative defense of self defense (Jesus that’s a lot of use of the word defense), then?
He could get off on an easier sentence due to “sudden passion” and that’s where I think it’ll land with the da if they take (I was corrected) capital murder off the table.
I don’t think so. Having a knife in your hand, hidden in your backpack, ready to go if a kid reaches towards you isn’t a crime of passion. He instigated the entire interaction, too.
This is correct, the burden of proof for conviction is *supposed to be* “Beyond a reasonable doubt”, which is what the prosecutor’s goal will be in attempting to convince the Jury. All the defense has to do is attempt to inspire “reasonable doubt”.
I'm a criminal defense lawyer. First, throw out the term "murder 1." The charge is murder, which is a first-degree felony. 5-99 or life.
Premeditation has nothing to do with it. It's just "intentionally or knowingly causing the death of another." Self-defense is basically the only defense he'd have here, since he can't fight the fact that he caused the death.
The applicable law is that a person can use deadly force against another to prevent the unlawful use of deadly force against them (paraphrasing here). No idea if there are any facts supporting this defense in this situation.
Maybe y'all forget but guilty people are also entitled to rights and the law. The law guides us on how to handle guilt. He's entitled to a trial and an opportunity to speak regardless.
I understand how this could be evidence that he is violent, but has anyone asked the question of why he carries a knife? Because as much as it could be a sign of aggression, it could also be a sign that this kid faced a lot of harassment. And that’s not to say he didn’t commit murder even if that is the case, but making assumptions about either of them at this point seems to be doing more harm than good for both of their families.
As soon as he stabbed the victim, he ran away. And he tossed the knife.
That sounds a lot more like someone who knows they fucked up than someone who thinks "I didn't do anything wrong".
The little fuck deserves life. I don't care what anybody says. You don't show up to a track meet with a knife and kill somebody over a minor altercation. This was planned. Fuck everyone who is donating to this kid. If he gets out he'll hurt somebody else.
The person I replied to has already decided the guilt and punishment of someone before even a preliminary hearing. Does that sound reasonable to you? If it does, why have a justice system at all? Why don’t you and your friends just get a rope and Go down to the courthouse andtake care of it like the old days?
Whoa there, hey now I never said I wanted to take part in anything like what you're saying in your last sentence there. I was just surprised to see a comment that seemed to defend the suspect in a case that has shocked many, but of course I want there to be a fair justice system. Like I said, I was genuinely curious on your take. And as you said about the hearing, I am interested in what further information on the case will be disclosed as well
$1 million bond is crazy. Seems like they're gonna try to make an example out of this kid.
Obv what he did was wrong, but he's still a teenager. I did dumb stuff and got mad at other kids, but luckily never had a knife on me.
This kids life is gonna be over nearly as much as the one that died. Pretty tragic.
In other news, the guy that ran over the toddler in Richardson seems to only be getting charged with intoxicated manslaughter.
> luckily never had a knife on me
you had such poor self-control that if you were carrying a knife, you would've killed someone with it if they made you angry?
Maybe I'm being too patronizing. The point is he's a dumb kid that made a bad decision.
It seems like your argument is being made in bad faith though. He stabbed the other kid once, but it happened to kill him. Read the eyewitness account I posted above.
Trying to provide a more compassionate POV compared to people jumping over themselves to execute the kid.
No bad faith here. Stop trying to sympathize with a murderer.
I don’t know if he deserves the death penalty but he certainly does not deserve any less than a full murder charge. In Texas, Murder is charged when you intentionally or knowingly cause the death of someone or intend to seriously injure them and they die.
There’s no excuse “he’s just a kid,” “I was just as short tempered, luckily I didn’t have a knife when I was his age” … he’s of the legal age of responsibility - he knew better. He deserves to be held to the highest standard of accountability because there’s no undoing the choice he made.
Frankly, he’s lucky they don’t have any evidence (so far) to enhance it to Capital Murder.
This “kid” killed someone. He can find forgiveness but he still needs to be held accountable. What a stupid response, who gives a fuck if they’re a teenager? Are you willing to give him a room in your house? Yeah, you bring a knife to a school event and stab someone, you deserve to be made an example of. What’s pretty tragic is the family going home without their kid.
To be clear, I, and I think everyone else, is in support of punishment.
Have you never lost your temper? Especially as a teenager? If not, you're a much more stable person than most.
I lost my temper plenty as a kid, never stabbed someone. Been bullied my whole fucking life, never stabbed someone. Been off and on medication since 11, never stabbed someone. “Luckily never had a knife on me”, what a dumbass. Would love to see how you’d feel if it was your friend or loved one that the anger was taken out on. There’s no defending this, a knife at a school event is fucking wild, and you’re sitting here acting like it could’ve happened to anyone. Genuinely eat a dick
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When did the loss of temper happen? When he bought the knife? When he was asked to move? When he reached into his bag while being vaguely threatening? Or when he stabbed an innocent kid in the heart because he was touched?
LMAO fuck off. You seriously think this was premeditated?
But sure, I'll entertain. Probably when the altercation became physical. You don't know any more about this case than anyone else, so why even act like it.
I haven’t seen people brandish a knife but I have seen people brandish guns. I’ve also seen people stand up for the shooter if he was assaulted first, which is what witnesses say happened here. I think the idea that you can kill someone because they laid hands on you is dumb but most people don’t seem to agree.
This kid was not assualted.
He brought a weapon to a school, sat in the wrong team's area, and then stabbed another kid in the heart after being asked to move. He refused to move and instead said "touch me and see what happens".
I've lost my temper. I've never intentionally provoked someone into 'assaulting' me and stabbed them in the fucking heart, though.
Stop being like 'we've all been there' about stabbing someone in the fuckin chest dude.
Does that make the high bail wrong? Is the point in the room with us? Did you forget where everyone’s talking about making an example of this kid? In a world plagued by school mass murders, any sort of violence near a school should be given extreme prejudice. Regardless of race/age. Raise the punishment on the others, don’t reduce punishment for those that deserve accountability
>Explain the function of bail to us
Nah, I'm good. You can use Google on the same device you're commenting on Reddit on.
>why it should be lowered
Where did I say it should be lowered?
Oh good, you do know how to find information for yourself.
>***and why it should be lowered***
You forgot to show me where I said the bail should be lowered. I'm sure you have something intelligent so say about that.
You know when I asked you to explain bail, it wasn’t because I don’t know how to find information, it was for you to explain whatever disagreement you had with my statement. Again, dumbass
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So you don’t want to engage with what I said? You didn’t have to say it verbatim to infer you don’t agree with it. Why are you even talking to me if you don’t disagree? Again, you’re so fucking dumb
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You’re actually a dumbass. Either contribute to the conversation or don’t. Yes, high bail in a high income area to prevent a danger/risk is making an example out of this piece of shit. You showed your true colors in your response, child
It's Collin County. Of course they're going to try to make an example of him. That's what the DA's office does and likes to brag about on the official Twitter account.
Better than Dallas County, where that Marxist Creuzot would give him a hug and say, "it's not your fault, it's racism's fault". Kid would get probation from that turd.
> To be clear, I, and I think everyone else, is in support of punishment.
From my other comment. Guy should get time for sure. Reality is he'll be forced into gangs in prison, which sucks for everyone.
I carried a knife in high school. Plenty of bullies are eager to be violent with you when you're mentally ill, homeless, and very obviously queer. Never had to go this far, showing it to them was always enough for them to back off. We dont know anything about this case. Save judgment for the trial.
Lol, the kids a murderer. Go donate to that fundraiser tho! I’m sure his family will thank each and every person for supporting they’re innocent little boy
You’re actually a dumbass. We can have empathy for people and still hold them accountable. I don’t wish death on him but the sick fucks acting like we have to coddle the bastard, genuinely fuck you. I’d love to see the way you “treat the guilty” if they gutted the one you love. “You never were at all”, LMAO have fun being ‘fair and just’ with dead kids.
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What, compassion for sticking a knife in someone's chest for being told to move? In public? In front of hundreds of people? After reaching into their backpack to remove said knife?
Nah.
Cold blooded killers deserve no compassion. You can be empathetic all you want. The kid deserves every bit of what’s coming to him. I hope he’s stabbed in prison so he can experience what it was like for that innocent kid he murdered.
This was a case of the bully carrying the knife though. And when someone stood up to the bully and told him to leave the bully stabbed him in the heart.
We do know quite a bit about this case.
Please share what you have. What I have seen is an endless demand to make as much violence as possible as punishment for unreasonable violence, everyone is so ready to throw away this guy's rights as a human being. I have seen very little actual information being shared. I'm watching the news and on social media, at least here on Reddit. At this moment it's just the screams of a lynch mob.
It has been legitimately reported that Anthony was a track team member of another school, had entered into another schools clearly marked and sectioned-off area, had been asked to leave, had refused to leave, had implied, if not threatened violent retribution if someone tried to force him to leave, was carrying a prohibited weapon, and used the weapon to stab Metcalf. Anthony admitted to stabbing Metcalf wholeheartedly. He actually corrected a police officer who said “he allegedly stabbed” the victim, saying “not allegedly, I did it.”
It has also been legitimately reported that Metcalf was a member of his schools track team, there to compete that day, was inside his schools area, took hold of/grabbed Anthony’s person in some way as part of the effort to remove Anthony from the sectioned-off area after he had refused to leave, and committed no other attacking other than this grabbing.
Last, it has been confirmed these two had never met before, and did not know each other. That there was no previous altercations or interactions between these two in any way. And both were otherwise very good students with honorable school records.
And you're not lead to ask any further questions? You don't think any of that is strange or lacking in any way? Why is everyone so ready to kill him without understanding what happened? Why are y'all so comfortable believing that this is all there is to know about this situation?
I’m lead to ask more questions, but because I’ve heard from both sides and I believe I’ve heard enough facts that I understand what happened here, I don’t feel it’s necessary to withhold making an opinion. And, at least, I’m not saying to kill Anthony, just for him to stand trial.
You asked if any of this is strange or lacking. If by lacking you mean we seem to be lacking information, no, this type of behavior is what I’ve come to expect. There’s a crap ton of people right now protesting in cities all across America against the duly elected president and one of his top employees, and they’re saying things like “Trump and Elon are stealing the government” or “hands off my constitution.” These are wildly ignorant positions, and yet the people feel fully supported in them. I’m sure Anthony felt fully supported in his belief that if someone touched his person he was within his rights to stab that person with a knife. It’s the same brain disease. We have a country full of people with the maturity level of 5 year olds.
I knew to keep it below my waist and not to say a single word at any moment it was out. I did get in trouble, but it wasn't much they could do because I broke no law, just violated school policy.
He brought a fucking knife to a track meet and killed someone with it. Details aside, if he didn’t bring that weapon onto school grounds, which is *highly* illegal, the other student would still be alive. Period.
It’s tragic a kid was killed, but parents need to teach their kids to not be bully’s. Hopefully this teaches the victims twin brother to keep his hands to himself.
You would hope so, but if you look at the comments from the donors under Karmelo's givesendgo, (which has raised close to 300k) they echo that exact sentiment over and over.
Anthony “made another spontaneous statement” and reportedly asked an officer if what happened “could be considered self-defense,” according to the arrest report.
Yeah he’s fishing, he knew he effed up and was looking for an out after he admitted to it. If he actually did do it in self defense he wouldn’t be asking this dumb question.
Setting aside the witness testimonies and the fact that he had a knife on him—which, to my understanding, is strictly prohibited on any school campus—the defendant’s own statements to the responding officers are likely going to be used heavily against him by the prosecution. The most damning, in my opinion, is this: “Anthony made another spontaneous statement and reportedly asked an officer if what happened ‘could be considered self-defense,’” according to the arrest report.
This whole situation is a damn shame—and so are most of the responses I’ve seen about it. So many lives were permanently altered that day because of something that never should’ve happened.
This is what happens when you have shitty parents who raise their kids like shit. Lol 100 bucks says one or both of his parents have a criminal record. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
One of my kid's best friends in grade school and jr high had a parent in prison. He turned out great - graduated in the top 7% of the class, got into A&M. Last I heard he was doing ok for himself.
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