I see next to nothing offered as evidence of the “links to Iran.” I love that anyone can just say that and because anti-Israel = Hamas = Iran is taken at face value and Israel says it all the time that’s all it takes lol
Well, Swedish intelligence sources are saying it as well. And our police.
We have a massive problem with muslim-radicalization in Sweden, state-sponsored muslim radicalization and it's from all across the desert. Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabi, etc. We used to have over 30 muslim schools in Sweden and all except one is shut down because they were radicalizing kids, not teaching according to the Swedish education plan, embezzling money etc. Last I heard there was one school left, and the principle had been recently accused of trying to radicalize kids into jihad and had to step down.
A lot of the mosques are also connected, state sponsored and taking directions from outside the country, unsurprisingly there isn't much love for Israel or jews. And the leap towards the gangs isn't far, some of the gangs are pretty much just clans or coalitions of families fighting eachother and committing crimes. We also got a bunch of radical muslims that aren't necessarily gang related but they fought for Isis or would have done so if they were old enough at the time.
All this to say, maybe it's a direct order from Iran, maybe it's not. But the attacks are happening, we are catching muslim kids with assault weapons and grenades. There is a lot of good necessary critique of Israel in this sub, but muslims need to be better too. Especially in Sweden, cause that's were I live.
>We have a massive problem with muslim-radicalization in Sweden, state-sponsored muslim radicalization and it's from all across the desert. Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabi, etc.
I don't know why shit like this bothers me but for anyone who isn't aware, Turkey is a country with no deserts. One third of the country is covered in forests, and there are some semi-arid lands which are becoming increasingly irrigated to prevent them from eventually *becoming* deserts, but in the meantime it would be great if people could stop getting their fucking geography lessons from Tintin.
>Catching Muslim kids with assault weapons and grenades.
Don’t you dare hurt or lock up those kids!
Next thing you know they will be called “hostages” by white college kids, and your country will be releasing hundreds of them to get a handful your own people back from whatever Iran backed terrorists group captured them.
They didn’t release anything but 3 different countries including Sweden have come to that conclusion. Unless you think it’s a conspiracy between Sweden and USA to lie about this thing it isn’t really a stretch.
I mean I got ask. Who’s doing this then if you don’t think it’s Iran?
Just look at how little traction this post gets on this sub, simply because it isn't blaming Israel.
I would be surprised, but too many comments on this sub have exposed the views of the average anime_titties lurker that I'm surprised it's received 22 upvotes at the time of this comment.
Also interesting that anything remotely pro-Israel is fully understood to be nothing by "hasbara trolls" whilst it is seemingly impossible for people to believe that Iran/Qatar\* are trying anything to sway online opinion.
\*I know they are completely different states with their own motivations etc
Does Qatar or Iran trying to sway online opinion somehow change the immorality of the genocide Gaza and Israel as a whole (with their apartheid system, their belligerent occupation, and the fact they're a settler colonial ethnostate)?
And do you genuinely believe the US and Israel don't have thousands of propagandists and bots also trying to sway opinions? I mean, the only reason people thought Israel was a normal state was because of the decades of propaganda they've been spreading.
Cool, so there is propaganda and astroturfing going on by brutal dictatorships in Qatar and Iran but you're fine with it because you agree with them.
Nice one.
Do you base your opinions on what other people think? Are you this small-minded?
If Hitler was pro-LGBT+ rights and was spreading pro-LGBT propaganda, would you oppose LGBT rights?
That's a whole load of non-sequiturs in one comment.
And it's funny that you say I am the one basing my opinion on what others think whilst whole heartedly repeating the line coming from the brutal dictatorships.
It's fine to not like Israel, the war and the occupation. I hate 2 out of those 3 myself. But just take a second to think about why you are so keen to dismiss the possibility that you're own views have been formed and correspond so closely to those of brutal dictatorships.
>But just take a second to think about why you are so keen to dismiss the possibility that you're own views have been formed and correspond so closely to those of brutal dictatorships.
I listen to Amnesty International and dozens of experts on international law, genocide and holocaust studies. You can find all the people who claimed it constitues a genocide in [the wiki article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide). You'll see that there are many Israeli genocide and holocaust scholars that have called it a genocide.
I also listen to human rights organisations and international law experts that have called Israel an Apartheid state. Desmond Tutu even said that apartheid in Israel is even worse than South Africa. [Here is the wiki article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_apartheid).
The latest advisory opinion said that Israel is maintaining a system of racial segregation or apartheid.
Qatar and Iran saying the same thing doesn't make it wrong.
Amnesty Internation has a whole host of problems. It has an incomplete wikipedia article itself [Criticism of Amnesty International - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_International#cite_note-4)
They expelled the Israel chapter, the one that might be best placed to actually have a say on the matter, for disagreeing with them. They changed the definition of the word genocide to make sure they could accuse Israel of it.
[How Amnesty International Became a Joke | Opinion - Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/how-amnesty-international-became-joke-opinion-1996024)
Irish government did the same for their case.
[ICJ asked to broaden definition of genocide over 'collective punishment' in Gaza | World News | Sky News](https://news.sky.com/story/icj-asked-to-broaden-definition-of-genocide-over-collective-punishment-in-gaza-13271874)
If this was such a clear cut case then it would not have been necessary no?
Odd that such a weak case is being pushed so strongly online.
And once again, we circle back to the actual point I originally made. You seem intent on dismissing the possibility of propaganda being pushed by brutal dictatorships because you happen to agree with those brutal dictatorships.
That's your choice to make I suppose.
>Amnesty Internation has a whole host of problems. It has an incomplete wikipedia article itself [Criticism of Amnesty International - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_International#cite_note-4)
Interesting how none of the criticisms are about the report about apartheid.
>They expelled the Israel chapter, the one that might be best placed to actually have a say on the matter, for disagreeing with them. They changed the definition of the word genocide to make sure they could accuse Israel of it.
No they didn't change the definition of genocide, and the Israeli branch of Amnesty will always be inherently biased. It's not easy to accept your country is committing genocide. And on an organisational level, if they had accused Israel of genocide, they would've faced sanctions by the state.
>[How Amnesty International Became a Joke | Opinion - Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/how-amnesty-international-became-joke-opinion-1996024)
The article starts with this: "This week, Amnesty International released a 296-page report, accusing Israel of committing "genocide" in Gaza. This charge, no less than a modern-day blood libel". I genuinely don't need to read more to know it's absolute bullshit. Anyone who uses "modern-day blood libel" unironically isn't worth listening to.
>[ICJ asked to broaden definition of genocide over 'collective punishment' in Gaza | World News | Sky News](https://news.sky.com/story/icj-asked-to-broaden-definition-of-genocide-over-collective-punishment-in-gaza-13271874)
*The Irish government says it is "concerned" that a "narrow interpretation of what constitutes genocide" leads to a "culture of impunity in which the protection of civilians is minimised".* so they don't want to change the definition, just the legal interpretation.
I never said Qatar and Iran don't spread propaganda, but them spreading propaganda about something doesn't mean they are necessarily wrong. I don't know why you keep using "brutal". Israel is much more "brutal" than either of them.
Ah ok, so this whole discussion was completely pointless then.
I said in my original comment way way way back up there that the people who dismiss anything they deem pro-Israel as Hasbara trolls also reject the idea that something could be Qatar or Iranian propaganda.
You've now accepted that there is Qatari and Iranian propaganda. Thank you.
The fact you agree with that propaganda is neither here nor there, it's just your choice.
My very first comment:
>Does Qatar or Iran trying to sway online opinion somehow change the immorality of the genocide Gaza and Israel as a whole (with their apartheid system, their belligerent occupation, and the fact they're a settler colonial ethnostate)?
>And do you genuinely believe the US and Israel don't have thousands of propagandists and bots also trying to sway opinions? I mean, the only reason people thought Israel was a normal state was because of the decades of propaganda they've been spreading.
The whole point is that Qatar or Iran spreading propaganda doesn't actually change anything, Israel is still a terrorist state committing genocide, enforcing an apartheid system, and is settler colonial by nature. Actually, it makes anti-Israel propaganda that much easier.
However, they don't have the same institutional support or funding as Israel and the US does anyways.
No.
Iranian and Qatari propaganda doesn't influence my opinion. All facts point to Israel being a settler colonial state, them enforcing an apartheid system, and committing genocide.
I listen to sources outside of Qatar and Iran's influence, and they seem to come to similar conclusions.
If you say so.
But it's odd you came running to the comments of a story of the Swedish intelligence services blaming Iran for radicalising people online to dismiss that influence.
No the law with news and interest is drama, a teen almost shooting a handgun just isnt as dramatic as half of Gaza being leveled displazing millions, when Hamas does something with as much flair and scale it will get the same attention
This is from back in May.
There are two gangs that are suspected to be connected to Iran as their leaders fled Sweden. Foxtrot and Rumba. There are reports of them using gangs in Europe.
Although everything we know about this being Iran ordered is "Mossad said so".
Unfortunately 2023-2024 were very violent when it comes to gangs in Sweden. But fortunately no one was hurt in this attack.
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"And Sweden's security police have previously confirmed that Iran uses gang criminals in Sweden to commit crimes against Israeli and Jewish targets."
It seems like Sweden seems to agree alongside with the united states not just mossad.
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> “Groups of often very young individuals form online around narratives of violence, rather than ideologies,” said Anna Sjöberg, head of Europol’s European Counter Terrorism Centre.
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> “They exchange violent content and fantasies about how to act out violence and this vulnerability to violent narratives makes them a profitable recruitment pool for terrorist organizations or organized crime groups.”
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> ## ‘I’ll leave him some cool clothes’
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> In his testimony, the 15-year-old from Västerås, who was arrested on his way to the Israeli embassy, said he initially thought the job last May was to move cannabis, and that he felt “cheated and angry” when he was told to pick up a weapon.
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> He claimed that only three days earlier, he had been asked if he would carry out a hit on the Israeli embassy and had refused because of its political nature, adding that he didn’t know where he was going that night until he was already in the Uber.
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> The brother of the 14-year-old detained for firing shots near the embassy a day later said he hadn’t thought his brother was "capable" of carrying out the alleged attack, according to a wiretap commissioned by the Swedish police following the incident and included in court documents. “I thought he would shoot once. Get scared and run away,” he is heard saying, adding that he was surprised that his brother emptied the whole magazine.
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> “So, they thought it was a terror attack, brother. He is labeled as a terrorist, man... It said in the news... like this shooting at Israel’s embassy,” he said on another call.
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> The phone calls suggest just how simple the rewards are for carrying out such serious crimes.
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> In one of the wiretapped conversations, the boy’s brother is heard telling an unknown caller that he received the money and hid it. “I pick up my part. (He) has his. Yes. When I visit him at SiS (Swedish National Board of Institutional Care), I leave him some really cool clothes and stuff. Stuff that he wants.”
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> On the brother’s phone, in deleted files, police found a photograph of two masked people posing with a large sum of money, holding thick stacks of 500 kroner (about $50) notes.
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> In another conversation, he reiterated his fears for his younger brother, and an unknown speaker tries to reassure him. “No, but automatically, it will be dismissed. But I mean, he can still be put to a rehabilitation centre or something like that... But he won’t get any marks on his records,” the person said.
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> Social workers CNN spoke to emphasized that children recruited into gangs should be seen as victims of a system that has failed to protect them, rather than criminals. Without strong intervention, they said, the children remain at risk of further exploitation, caught in a cycle of violence.
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> Directly after his arrest, sitting in the patrol car, the 15-year-old told one of the police officers that it was too late for him to get out of the gang.
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> “They’ll still find you no matter where you are,” he said, according to the police report, adding that the violence in Sweden would only get worse.
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