What are peoples thoughts on people queuing in lines at a pub?
Posted by Jamesdarlo90@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 442 comments
This new phenomenon I’ve seen of people queuing single file in the pub. I can’t get my head around it.
BazzaFox@reddit
I didn’t realise this was a thing until I went to a pub last week I hadn’t been to for a couple of years with some friends. I went to the bar to order the first round and felt all these eyes looking at me. They were all in a single file queue. I said to one of them ‘is that a queue for the bar?’ He said ‘yes’ and everyone else in the line nodded. WTF? I have never seen a queue like that in a pub before. I was bizarre.
Anyway, I joined the end of the line and waited my turn!
Mobile-Proof8861@reddit
Queues in pubs are wanky and should be dispersed with tear gas.
ThatchersDirtyTaint@reddit
It's ridiculous and should be ridiculed
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
Can’t count the number of times I’ve been pushed in front of at a bar, then after the third time saying “actually I was next”. Then I’m the arsey guy!
Frankly a queue makes more sense; unless it’s really getting in the way.
GrilledKimcheese@reddit
Queues slow down the whole system. As an ex cocktail bartender I want to be able to prioritise and do things at the same time - someone wants 4 Guinness? Fine I’ll start pouring them and serve the next whilst that settles
MarthaFarcuss@reddit
How does a queue prevent that?
MonsieurGump@reddit
Because you can’t streamline your service,
I’ll regularly ask three or four people what they want. I can grab a glass of wine on the way back from the fridge that holds a Guinness zero and get a bag a crisps at the same time. Or shout down to a colleague who’s doing the special offer shots and get them to do another few.
Everyone gets served quicker if I know the next half dozen things I need to get.
The single file queue has the same effect on speed as the once a year drinkers who order a massive round one drink at a time round Xmas.
Conscious_Analysis98@reddit
I always see this on reddit but not once in 12+ years and 1000s of pub visits have I ever heard a bartender asked more than 2 people what they want.
SharkReceptacles@reddit
As former barmaid and a Guinness drinker, I see it frequently and used to do it myself. Order two pints of Guinness in a relatively busy pub and I guarantee that while they’re doing that little (purely theatrical) pause to let the first half of the Guinness “rest”, they’ll ask the next person what they’re having.
Conscious_Analysis98@reddit
fair enough, i've just never seen it :)
SharkReceptacles@reddit
I suppose the sequence of events is relevant too. Like, if the second person orders two pints of Stella, I’ll have time to do that while the Guinness is resting but not much else. If they just want one bottle of Becks, I can fit a third order in there.
The physical queue across the bar is (roughly) in the order of arrival, whereas the queue in the bartender’s head is reshuffled around time and labour-intensity!
NoResearcher4028@reddit
No idea why but it was the 'one bottle of Becks' that flashed me back 20 years to my bar staff days, not just a memory, but like I was standing there- for a microsecond I could feel, smell, hear everything about the pub...
Do people still drink Becks btw? We had a very particular opinion of those people.
SharkReceptacles@reddit
It sounds like you and I left the industry at about the same time, so I don’t know! I really can’t remember the last time I overheard someone ordering a Becks or saw someone drinking one.
I always thought it had that weird almost dusty smell and taste that some weak, cheap lagers have, like Bud, but it was the default low-budget option and must’ve appealed to plenty of people. To each their own, but yeah, never for me.
I know the exact smell you mean too, of a pub in the early ‘00s. Wet carpet, stale smoke, and whatever came out of the draining trays at the end of the night.
I simultaneously kind of miss it and absolutely don’t.
NoResearcher4028@reddit
Isn't it, I mean we had some laughs but fucking hell, living off a diet of fags, spicy peanuts and Franziskaner. It's a wonder we're still here.
wowsomuchempty@reddit
Me either, boozing for decades.
ObamaLlamaDuck@reddit
The pause is very much NOT theatrical. It lets the head form properly. How can you say that as a Guinness drinker!
MonsieurGump@reddit
Go to bars with professional bartenders.
I’ve worked everything from nightclubs that hold 1,000 people to small, family owned boozers, fancy cocktail places and private members clubs.
There’s a difference between lads that do it for a living and them that do it while they’re a full time student or as a stop gap till they get a “proper” job.
It’s like any other job.
FIR3W0RKS@reddit
Technically anyone employed as a bartender is a professional bartender.
MonsieurGump@reddit
But in reality anyone with an ounce of sense can understand the point being made.
FIR3W0RKS@reddit
Of course. Though it is worth saying that there are likely 50 inexperienced bartenders to every professional bartender, at least around my area (which is one of the richest areas of England)
MonsieurGump@reddit
True. It’s seen as a stopgap job, a job to be done alongside another occupation or something that needs no training or development.
I’ve seen bars more than double their take by employing a couple of good bartenders and paying them well.
This included one place that was averaging 3 grand a night and offered the bar staff “5% of anything over 5k a night”. That bar is now doing well over 7k a night, the owner is becoming very wealthy and the bar staff are very, very good.
ChampionshipOk5046@reddit
Do you wear a special uniform to indicate you're pros?
Embarrassed_Quit_404@reddit
I’m a bartender and do it every fucking day
rustynoodle3891@reddit
I'd argue you've only seen shit staff in a shit pub. Me and my ex who I haven't seen in about ten years could serve a pub of 300 easily between us with barely a word needed tomorrow and nobody would wait more than 5 minutes. Experience is everything working a bar is actually very complicated
WhalingSmithers00@reddit
You might not hear it but it happens. I worked in a pub for 7 years and a lot of drinks are ordered inaudibly especially for locals who are getting served ahead of tourists.
Only__Link@reddit
Yeah, hard agree. I will move on to the next customer while waiting for the stout to settle or the coffee to pour, but never more than one customer, sure as shit not 4 - 1 & 2 would immediately be far too pissed off
robbie316@reddit
You must not go out much
Conscious_Analysis98@reddit
i go out but not out out
Lopsided_Rush3935@reddit
Because it doesn't happen. You'd forget or mix up orders and it would be far less efficient than a queue.
Imagine if we applied this thought process to any other situation. Everyone shows up at the barbershop and takes a seat each while the same barber switches back and forth between them. Silly.
djdodgystyle@reddit
Was a bartender at a busy East London bar years ago and I can tell you right now that if you weren't taking orders like this you wouldn't have lasted long at all.
Taking multiple orders at once and prioritising is definitely a real technique and definitely faster than a turn based 'one at a time' way of serving.
Lopsided_Rush3935@reddit
What you're saying is that you were exploited.
djdodgystyle@reddit
Oof, dumb take, dude.
I made over minimum wage plus more in tips that meant I made more there than I made at subsequent graduate office jobs immediately after.
Icy_Obligation4293@reddit
Been a bartender for 18 years. It does happen, regularly. The other bartender above is right: queuing slows down service. Customers might feel like it's more fair, or less stressful, and there may be legitimate points there, but it is undeniably faster to serve customers without a line. This won't make much of a difference if you're second in the queue, but if you're tenth, you could easily be waiting twice as long for a drink in single file than you would have waited had everyone spread out and let the bartenders prioritise service according to their training.
RestaurantAntique497@reddit
I've been in pubs for nearly 15 years and I"ve never omce had a server ask for more than 1 order. Drank in many cities, dive bar and fancy places
prof_hobart@reddit
If the queue stretches along the whole bar, what would stop you doing the same thing?
WhalingSmithers00@reddit
So everyone is in the same place as they would be anyway just facing sideways? What about when the bars packed three deep? Do I get out the barriers like airport check in?
prof_hobart@reddit
Well, the bar wouldn't be packed 3 deep. That wouldn't be a queue. That would the current system.
Do you need airport-style barriers everywhere else you find a queue?
Lopsided_Rush3935@reddit
Exactly. It's a complete non-point. Queueing makes a lot more sense than just 'show up, stand there like a lemon and hopefully I'll remember what order you got there in'.
This is just the same shite that drives the 'anti-woke' nonsense - nostalgia. People don't seem to recognise that (yet...)
Gnomio1@reddit
This is the pub equivalent of not doing “merge in turn” (zipper merge, etc.) when navigating road works.
rustynoodle3891@reddit
Because you don't know what number three in the queue wants. All lined up I can serve 4 people at once after gathering their orders and prioritising. One at a time slows everything down.
Now I've worked behind busy bars for over 15 years so I am pretty good at it( really good bar staff will move out of each others way without saying a word or even looking around), and also recognising who arrived in what order. But I'll also serve a regular earlier in a busy queue just because I already know what they want without asking. If I can pour that drink at the same time as somebody else then it will be done, I'll even tell them to pay me next time if needs be.
Inexperienced staff will be better with a singular queue, but there's only one way to learn.
MrPurbrick@reddit
Work it out.
LankyYogurt7737@reddit
Yeah I used to work in a very busy pub by Liverpool street and I’d try and serve 2-3 people at once usually.
hakz@reddit
I've never seen a bartender take another order while pouring pints
SaleOk7942@reddit
You take their order and then say "just settling mate, be a couple of minutes. Next?"
GrilledKimcheese@reddit
Those couple of minutes have passed whilst the next customer trundles to the front and decides what they want
___GLaDOS____@reddit
Worked as a barman a few times, it is really not hard to keep tabs on who is next, just look up and pay attention to what is going on. Bar staff that do not do this really get on my nerves. However queueing at a pub is fucking awful, I will walk out if I see a queue.
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
How does a line stop you doing that?
msully89@reddit
Most people who've had a line don't want to queue
GrilledKimcheese@reddit
It means that I have to take the order of someone and usher the next person up to the bar, if they’re already stood there I can take an order whilst pulling pint or mixing a cocktail
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
I could probably count on one hand the amount of bar tenders I’ve encountered that would bother doing this.
It’s a pretty easy thing to just say to the next person along “what are you having” while clearly making the first persons drink.
GrilledKimcheese@reddit
Sounds like you’re going to shit bars mate
worldofecho__@reddit
I love how there’s multiple bartenders in this thread explaining why queues are slower and more of a pain in the arse but still people are arguing and telling them they are wrong
XA3A12@reddit
This post is about pubs... Not fancy imaginary cocktail bars where people are ordering 4 Guinnesses
Ballbag94@reddit
It's pretty standard in any pub where the bartender is decent
Pouring pints in parallel is something the 18yo earning some extra cash does at the small village pub I go to
XA3A12@reddit
Huh? Aware that that's standard in a pub. This person said they worked at fancy cocktail bars where people would order 4 guinness, that's nothing to do with a pub which is what I'm pointing out.
Ballbag94@reddit
4 pints of Guinness isn't a particularly unusual order either, it's a common drink
XA3A12@reddit
I'm not saying its an unusual order??? I'm saying that person is talking about 'fancy cocktail bars' and not pubs.
GrilledKimcheese@reddit
Have you been to a pub recently? 4 Guinness is probably a pretty common order
XA3A12@reddit
Are you ok? I'm clearly saying that you are the one not talking about pubs, you're saying you're an ex cocktail bartender in nice bars... What has that got to do with pubs?
bahumat42@reddit
In a cocktail bar?
tophatpat@reddit
Is that sarcasm?
Superfluxus@reddit
Or, instead of needing to shout past the person you're serving and encourage them to walk forward into conversational distance, they could already be stood at the long, horizontal bar in the first place?
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
I’ve covered that in another comment.
Superfluxus@reddit
Ah sorry mate, let me just scour the whole thread to double check all your comments next time 👍
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
That would be excellent, thank you
Trypod_tryout@reddit
So a combination of the two, queue from one end of the bar to the other, like a conveyor belt.
Sleepywalker69@reddit
Because shouting at the person behind you to get their order isn't very efficient.
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
Don’t need to shout.
Most people are staring intently at the bartender anyway, if it’s loud, all you need to do is lock eyes with the person and nod your head to the side.
Honestly you lot just don’t like change.
Sleepywalker69@reddit
I worked in a pub for 10 years, you clearly haven't touched hospitality.
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
Assumption. I have actually. Nothing worse than 20 miserable people who’ve been waiting half an hour staring at you vying to get your attention.
Sleepywalker69@reddit
Each bartender should have their own section and manage their bar top like a personal queue, remembering each customer and who’s next. They should prioritise smaller orders while still processing larger ones. Physical lines only create unnecessary obstacles for floor staff.
Adept-Panic-7742@reddit
Please deport yourself to a country of your choosing.
Pubs have worked this way for centuries. Absolutely no need to have a perpendicular queue at a bar. Blocks walkways and you all look like it's your first ever visit to a pub. Stop it
LambonaHam@reddit
Yeah, I really don't get the outrage at queuing in bars.
iamthemightysmell@reddit
My other half is excellent at remembering who is next to be served. He's got these weird brain powers and the amount of people who have pushed in thinking he won't notice is funny because he will say to them 'right well that man/woman was next and you can now wait longer to be served' Usually because the pusher comes with an attitude and he wont have it. I wish I had the brain capacity to remember what I went in the kitchen for, let alone remember that amount of people.
head_face@reddit
Good barstaff do
ReturnOfCombedTurnip@reddit
It’s a bar, not Tesco. Speak up for yourself and get notice or get nowt
OkDonkey6524@reddit
Completely agree, but prepare for downvotes from people who apparently enjoy having to deal with the dickheads who turn up 5 mins after you at the bar and then try to get served ahead of you (with barstaff who like you say couldn't care less).
Cakeo@reddit
Go to a weatherspoons if you want to queue, or be confident and make eye contact then say you were here before them, then just rhyme of what you want.
From working in pubs for 5 years i had no issue knowing who was there first.
GoodOlBluesBrother@reddit
Bartenders used to know who arrived at the bar first. If they didn’t they’d ask who was next. When you arrive at the bar you innately know who was there before you and if the bartender asked you before them you’d politely say ‘they were here first’. I guess that doesn’t happen anymore?
fezzuk@reddit
It happens all the time at basically every pub anywhere. The only place it doesn't and has never happened is at clubs and venues, that's always been a free for all.
Lopsided_Rush3935@reddit
You do not innately know who was there before you, and especially not if it's busy. What an odd thing to assert.
Cakeo@reddit
Behind the bar i managed when it was packed. If i go to a bar i dont struggle to know who was there before me. You practically only need to remember two people. Left and right.
GoodOlBluesBrother@reddit
Of course you do. You saying if you turn up at a semi busy bar you don’t know who’s standing at the bar before you? And if the bar is three deep you sure as hell know who was in front of you and who arrived after you and is trying to shoulder in.
The only way you don’t take note of who’s been waiting longer is if you’re the type of person to not notice these things.
ProgrammerComplete17@reddit
This is Reddit. The idea of making eye contact or being confident is foreign to 95% of the people here
fezzuk@reddit
That's like 0.01% of people. Or stop drinking in spoons
fezzuk@reddit
As an ex bar tender, and regular pub goer . No, just no absolutely not.
No-Strike-4560@reddit
You need to play the thinking man's pushing in game. If you push in , point to the guy that was actually next , 'this gentleman was first' , and guarantee yourself the next in line position, skipping ahead of everyone else, but don't get moaned at for it.
trepanned_and_proud@reddit
bartenders absolutely do care like what are you talking about
i worked on bars a bit after COVID and many many staff talked shit about queues and asked people to stop queueing, that's why you see it less often than immediately after covid !!
it is not the same as crowding the bar, basically you can't serve multiple customers simultaneously when there's a queue - taking the next order while making the drinks of the previous - when there's a queue, or if you do you have to marshall each set of customers out of the way of the till like you're ground handling staff at a fucking airport. and seriously a fair few times I'd take one order, start making the drinks and take the next order at the same time and the customers from the first order would be like 'but you haven't finished serving us'... so weird and awkward to be having to explain to customers how to get drinks from a bar when we formerly had no issues with this, this literally never happened before when people crowded the var
basically the issue is you can't serve as many people
that's why these queues seem to take ages, there's a bunch of wasted time at the start and end of each transaction where the staff aren't making drinks.
pain in the arse, people sat down hate having a queue next to them, people don't enjoy queuing, makes the place look untidy. the point of a bar is to relax, not queue like it's the fucking post office ugh
DarkVoidize@reddit
just looks stupid tbh
Feline-Sloth@reddit
I can tell you haven't worked behind a bar before.
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
You clearly can’t because that’s incorrect!
BTECGolfManagement@reddit
Christ
MyManTheo@reddit
It’s a waste of space if anything though. Bars are long for a reason - it makes far more sense to queue horizontally
Academic-Crew4782@reddit
Don’t go to the dial arch in Woolwich. It’s a mad. 20 mins to get a drink if there is no queue
alyaaz@reddit
Worst pub in London for queues. Always a line out of the door no matter what
quickreviver@reddit
The queue is the horizontal bar.
JamesWoolfenden@reddit
I had whinge at people queuing in my local. Youth of today
ThatchersDirtyTaint@reddit
Covid fucked a lot of things up. The queueing thing is just one example
Thefdt@reddit
Agreed, but also so should twats who don’t adhere to ‘he was before me mate’
blackcurrantcat@reddit
No. We have the queuing rules nailed down, we don’t need some Johnny-come-latelys messing it all up. We’re a socially awkward people and we need consistency and reliability. You form a foam around the bar and the bar people know who’s been there the longest- they have the bottle opener so they make the rules.
WPorter77@reddit
Oh just fuck off if what I think, what morons think its normal, where has this even come from? The new wave of the covid young who have even less social skills than me and im autistic
Seriously If I see people in a line im walking right past you to the empty space at the bar
FloydEGag@reddit
I can’t understand why people blame covid for this, standing along the bar is sonething that’s been standard for centuries. Did it seriously take only a couple of years for this to completely reset?
Btw I totally agree with you, I’m just wondering why it seems to have changed so quickly. I tend to avoid places that do this tbh.
WPorter77@reddit
No idea tbh but there seems to be a group of young people that are so weird and just dont know how to behave in public anymore
the other thing I noticed was the tram in manchester, young'ns just standing waiting to get on blocking anyone wanting to get off
FloydEGag@reddit
That can’t just be from Covid, I’d understand if we’d all been shut indoors for 15 years or something but surely people don’t just unlearn socialisation then become incapable of relearning it in the space of a couple of years. Some of my relatives are in their early 20s so missed out on a lot, but they’re capable of using a bar, using public transport properly and engaging in a conversation (in an informal conversation, like at work, loads of young people will answer a question but not elaborate or ask one back, as if they don’t know how a conversation works, and they can’t all be neurodivergent; and I’m not even that old)
WPorter77@reddit
I dunno sometimes, theres a wave of young people that are just weird... maybe is social media and a lack of actually talking to people
PaleLook@reddit
As an ex bartender it drives me freaking crazy. We had 3 tills you could order food at any till signage at the bar. Yet people would insist on queueing at till 1.
I used to play the game of ignore the food line and just serve the beers if people decided they want to queue then they can wait. Use the space at the bar efficiently please!
Tip for punters at the bar, once you reach the actual bar (not one hand in the bar shoulder pointing in) I mean actually at the bar. Make eye contact with the bartender give them a smile and you will be served in reasonable time (fast)
Wave your money around and push and shove your likely to get ignored while other peeps get served in front of you.
FloydEGag@reddit
There was a bar near me that insisted on it, I went in with a friend and went up to a bartender who wasn’t actually doing anything only to be told to join the queue of about 12 people his colleague was serving because he was apparently waiting for table orders (and the table service was so slow I’m not surprised people were coming to the bar). We walked out of there. Anyway it’s closed down now and I’m not at all surprised.
PaleLook@reddit
Now that is just peak lazy on the other guy.
FloydEGag@reddit
Oh I bet his colleague loved him. I’ve done bar work; anyone not pulling their weight didn’t last long!
happyhippohats@reddit
I normally just walk past them and wait at the bar like a normal person. I'll happily let them get served first if they were there before me but I'm not joining the back of a queue, it's not a post office
arpw@reddit
I did this recently at a Spoons where there was a queue of about 8 people. Turned out the bar staff were only serving people from the one specific spot at the bar where the front of the queue was, and told me to go to the back of the queue. It was maddening.
Cakeo@reddit
Spoons are usually queue when not very busy. You dont know your etiquette.
MrPatch@reddit
I've been drinking in spoons, although admittedly not very often, for well over 25 years and never once seen a queue.
Cakeo@reddit
You even just read someone had queued in a pub and why would i lie. Fucking idiots in this country smh
Cakeo@reddit
Im not going to the effort to prove that you obviously havent been to every spoons, but there are fucking loads that queue.
Downvote and cry all you want, you admitted yourself you dont go often.
arpw@reddit
I don't usually do Spoons outside of airports... And this incident reminded me why.
Bottled_Void@reddit
I'm not sure what they've arbitrarily decided in Spoons is what you'd call etiquette. Pubs have always been first to the bar with you looking around to see who was there before you.
RelativeStranger@reddit
I'd just walk out tbh
jimothyjim@reddit
I've also been to a Spoons like this (Exeter, can't remember the name). It's fun because then the queue blocks the room for servers/people getting to tables.
Aromatic_Pea_4249@reddit
If I go to a Spoons I order on the app so I don't even need to get out of my seat. 😁
arpw@reddit
That was what I was planning on doing but the mates I joined who were there already had ordered on the app 20 minutes ago and were still waiting... So thought I'd better not
happyhippohats@reddit
They usually have a place where they are making orders for the app with a sign, and the rest of the bar is free game
Soylad03@reddit
Experienced this before, incredibly frustrating. But it's become reinforced so young bar servers think that's the norm
nogeologyhere@reddit
I'd never go in there again. That's psychotic behaviour
GrimQuim@reddit
That's the sort of information I want to see listed in the Good Beer Guide.
supaPILLOT@reddit
An establishment that operates like this would not be listed in the GBG
elniallo11@reddit
Yeah it was like that in the spoons near me. Annoying as hell, all those years wasted building good barcraft
spellish@reddit
Some places tell you to go to the back of the queue if you do this
happyhippohats@reddit
Why? I'm not butting in. It's never been an issue at any of my local pubs.
Flat_News_2000@reddit
Well I'd stop going there then
takesthebiscuit@reddit
Staff at the Spoons at the Edinburgh station bar enforced the q!
happyhippohats@reddit
Really? That's nuts, none of my local ones do, including the new one in Marlow
takesthebiscuit@reddit
I think it’s due to the number of tourists, the yanks just don’t get the British system of fairness
drainedfromlife@reddit
Exactly pubs aint built for queues like that. It would result in so many people getting in the way of others. Just no need for it. As someone who has a pub, if i dont know whos next i just ask! Never had any issues with it and customers know if they are next or not.
Old-Parfait8194@reddit
UK kqmkmq lqol, q. Qo23
Current-Lynx-3547@reddit
Honestly a QR code to order to the table is better. You don't spend 30 minutes standing about waiting to be served. You get more time with the people you are with.
FloydEGag@reddit
And don’t have to - horror of horrors - risk speaking to anyone you don’t know!!!!!!!!!
Current-Lynx-3547@reddit
I am fine with talking to people. I just dislike standing about like a fart waiting at a bar so I can get back to the people I actually came out to see.
MendaciousBog@reddit
I think it came in after the pandemic. It needs to end. That said, it is usually possible to simply walk up to the bar, skip the entire queue, and get served immediately. So it's not all bad, just incredibly lame.
FloydEGag@reddit
I get nervous that the staff will tell me to queue. So if I see a queue like this a pub I just leave.
Atomiclouch44@reddit
This one really fucks me off.
A few years ago I went to a pub that had queues for some reason, I obviously didn't queue and just got my drink and left happy. When I brought it up at work the next day saying how strange it was to queue in a pub I got BLASTED by the young guys (none of whom were old enough to drink pre-covid, which I think had a part to play in it) about how rude I was to push in.
I said you don't queue in pubs, you just don't, and the staff didn't seem to care that I didn't join one of the queues.
Still annoys me to this day that I came out of that viewed as the knobhead.
FloydEGag@reddit
You’d think those young guys would see how everyone else acts in pubs since restrictions ended (ie, the usual spreading out along the bar) and just…do that. Not insist everything changes for them.
ramxquake@reddit
I've never actually seen this, pretty sure it only exists in the form of people complaining about it on the Internet.
FloydEGag@reddit
Sadly it’s a thing https://x.com/queuespub?s=21
Otherwise_Craft9003@reddit
I guess when you have very few staff
ragingintrovert57@reddit
I saw this for the first time last Sunday. I prefer it to the usual bar scrum. In the UK we expect to he served based on how long we have waited, not on who can shout the loudest.
blainy-o@reddit
Absolutely diabolical behaviour. Spread out along the bar you thick cunts, that's what it's there for.
MrPatch@reddit
Went to the theatre recently walked towards the bar past a long line of people about half way up the bar I found a space, got served my drinks and started heading back the other way and it was only then that it clicked they were queueing for the bar, made worse that they were queuing for the first til and leaving the rest largely unused.
Cretins.
MmmThisISaTastyBurgr@reddit
Going up to the bar is a lovely and centuries-old tradition because it is the most efficient way for people to be served and provides the most convivial atmosphere.
Queueing at the bar only occurred briefly because of the pandemic and we need it as much as we need another Christmas lockdown, i.e. like a hole in the head.
DesiRose3621@reddit
I like it because it means I can just go straight to the bar and get served immediately. It’s like traffic queuing when the merge point isn’t until 2 miles away. I hope people keep doing this as it gives me a speedy pass
Lalepave@reddit
This is poor behaviour mate. Those poor people have got it bad enough locked in the queue without someone pushing in front.
If you do see a queue by all means ignore it and stand at the bar, but still wait your turn based off who was last in the queue.
DesiRose3621@reddit
I’m not pushing in? We don’t queue at the bar in this country, we all go up to the bar and stand right across it and wait to be served. If people want to do a big single file queue at a bar then that’s their decision - I wont be joining it
Lalepave@reddit
If you go to a bar and get served before someone who was waiting before you, you are pushing in. Doesn't matter if they are stood in a queue unnecessarily, they were still there before you.
themcsame@reddit
I mean, this is like going to checkout with a line and then blasting the person going to the checkout that is empty...
In principle, yes, you were there first. The problem is that you opted for the checkout that wasn't vacant, whilst the other person opted for the one that was free. A bar is the same, the 'checkouts' are just less visually distinct.
Lalepave@reddit
I don't agree. There is a fundamental principle of fairness here. You get served in the order you arrive.
There is *always* a queue. In a regular scenario it's just an informal queue. What you're advocating is in my opinion not any fairer than the berks who order at the bar even though they know they're not next. Don't like it? Should have been quicker to say "I'm next.".
themcsame@reddit
You get served in whatever order the bar staff decide to serve you, not the order you arrive in.
Don't like it? Don't stand there twiddling your thumbs and digging around for change after being told your total whilst everyone else knows what they want and can pay immediately, because that's exactly why bar staff don't go in the order people come in.
No point serving the tosser who can't be bothered to be ready to make a transition they want to initiate when there's 10 other people ready, cash in hand, 3 of which could've been served in the time Mr Tosser took to dig out the coins in his pocket.
RhysPawn@reddit
I've been at bars where they have signs up saying "please do not queue, just come to the bar"
And people were still queueing
I'm not pushing in if I walk to the bar and order a drink, I'm literally doing exactly what the staff want, there's absolutely 0% chance I'm standing at the back of a queue at a bar.
Lalepave@reddit
I'm not saying you should stand in the queue. I'm saying that if you choose not to stand in the queue, you should still wait for the last person who was there before you to be served before you order.
BaconLara@reddit
It’s been becoming more and more common as years have gone by.
But a few drinks in and people stop doing it. I mostly see it in student union bars or bars frequented by younger people.
It’s annoying but it ensures everyone gets their turn I guess; though I can only imagine it makes bar work more stressful and less “casual” for the bartenders because it turns it from a crowd of people hanging about at a bar into “Jesus Christ this is a long queue I better get through them asap”.
Gullible_Wind_3777@reddit
Where is this happening ?! Pubs round where I live are still the same as before, you walk up to the bar and the barman/bar lady will approach you when it’s your turn. No actual single file line. That’s wild
Indigo-Waterfall@reddit
As an autistic person. Ffs, I can’t bloody win haha. I learn one rule “you must queue” then there’s a million exceptions where queuing is absolutely the wrong thing to do. But youre meant to just know it automatically 😭😭😭
ShankSpencer@reddit
Yes, it is new! Noticed it at a pub gig for the first time last week. Really confused me!
KonkeyDongPrime@reddit
Would be up for it if I means getting served quicker
Royal_IDunno@reddit
It’s awful! Had to wait in line for like 25 mins just to get a refill on my pint of carling.
Gadgie2023@reddit
British etiquette rules state that queues aren’t needed in pubs.
You go to the bar but you know your turn. If a bar tender serves you before someone else who was before you, you should state so.
Failure to do so results in death.
selax1234@reddit
This works great in your local with six people waiting to get served.
Not so much in a town centre Spoons with 40 dickheads shuffling each other at the bar to get served first.
wheepete@reddit
Who's at the bar in spoons? Just use the app
JohnnyButtocks@reddit
Yeah but busy pubs have been around for quite a while.. this has only become a problem now because of all the socially awkward penguins who were let loose as new adults after lockdown, who get a thousand yard stare at the prospect of having to engage in normal communication with strangers.
glasgowgeg@reddit
That's still a queue, it's just not a single-file queue.
Rubberfootman@reddit
Exactly. That little flash of camaraderie when you say “he’s next” instead of pushing in is brilliant.
IAdoreAnimals69@reddit
I recall a time as a youth when I was at a pub with friends, but a girl I'd liked to have relations with was showing me attention. I was trying to get a drink for her and being polite to the other patrons, when she jumped in front and pushed through two people who clearly were next at the bar.
She was a young babe with cleavage, and her two competitors were local hard men who looked like a poorly formed concrete mould of dog shit had been smashed with a sledgehammer.
One of the men just ignored her tomfoolery, but the other turned to me and said "you gonna let your bitch do this?"
She wasn't mine regardless of what he was calling her, if i wanted to continue my time with her I'd have to 'defend' her even if she was being a cock, if I did defend her I'd get my head twatted in.
In the end I drunkenly apologised and just wandered away.
Fuck me that was awful.
Educational-Owl6910@reddit
So how long have you been married? ;)
Libarate@reddit
We cant be reliant on the bartenders all the time. If it's busy, it's on all of us to keep it fair and maintain the que in spirit.
eclectic_radish@reddit
You missed some letters there. You have to get another u and another e, and add them to the queue
chrisrazor@reddit
Que?
eclectic_radish@reddit
Se te cayó esto, va encima de la última e: ´
leicastreets@reddit
As a former bartender I hated this. I’d often try to serve multiple people just to be told to ask the guy beside him when I was going to anyway.
Rubberfootman@reddit
I’m not doing this for bartenders who clearly have it under control, I’m doing it for the dopes at my local who, somehow, always seem to be on their first day at the job.
phatboi23@reddit
was in the pub earlier...
a guy wasn't getting served for ages because he was behind a pillar i said to the staff "he was here first" they'd have never noticed...
he offered me a beer and i said "nah it's fine mate"
Gadgie2023@reddit
Good man. A noble deed that will hopefully be reciprocated in the coming weeks.
phatboi23@reddit
it's just the dumb thing even when someone is being a dumbass :P
OnkleTone@reddit
Yeah, but have you seen a queue at the bus stop lately? British etiquette is dead. Long live British shitiness and selfishness
TaffWaffler@reddit
I don’t know where you are, but where I am people still queue for buses, they let elderly people, pregnant ladies, people with prams and such on first and offer help. When getting off the bus people are polite and allow others off first etc, so please don’t plaster your poor experience as the universal British experience
OnkleTone@reddit
Oh, yeah, I'm in London
If there's a few people it's fine but anymore than ten and it's a free-for-all
Hecticfreeze@reddit
Winds me up no end. I'm about to merge into the queue to get on and I let the old woman next to me go first, only to have 3 young lads who've only just got to the bus stop see the gap as their opportunity to push in front of me and everyone else
OzzyinKernow@reddit
You’d think it was da yoof who flout this longstanding law/tradition, but it’s mostly the boomers in the pubs near me who seem to think knowing their turn is for the workers under 70. Number of times I’ve had a death stare when I’ve said “sorry guys, I was next” (again - standard) and they took it rather badly.
prof_hobart@reddit
It usually doesn't though. It mostly results in a few tuts and getting served quicker.
Gadgie2023@reddit
Ah, the ‘fuck everyone, I’m alright’ approach.
prof_hobart@reddit
Yup. And it's become a lot more common in pubs in the past 20 years or so.
HydraulicTurtle@reddit
British etiquette is dead. People used to know how to behave in public but respect for others has deteriorated dramatically.
At a busy bar now you're almost guaranteed someone will get served before you who was there after you
solar1ze@reddit
Stupid
Monkeyboogaloo@reddit
Just not British
dgraveling@reddit
When I was a young man I worked behind a very busy bar and I knew within a little who was next young kids are the norm in pubs these days while the landlord is sat on his fat arse upstairs. So queuing is the best option
highrouleur@reddit
I've only seen it twice. Once was a wetherspoons in Islington. I left and went to another pub.
The other was a gig at Koko in Camden. There was a space at the bar, I took it, an old guy tapped my on the shoulder "we're doing queues". I was already fairly merry at this point "it's a bar, you queue along it" with a sweeping hand gesture to show the extent of the bar. At this point I got slapped by a pensioner "I know how a bar works you cheeky prick". "Well, clearly not"
Shortly afterwards I was asked what I wanted, I made a point of stating the angry old bloke was before me, "we saw what he did, he's not getting served"
RuudVanNistelrooney@reddit
Fuck em, push in to the side
yerdadsbestfriend@reddit
As a bartender of (oh god too many years it was meant to be a stop-gap how did I get stuck in the industry for so long? Thank god I'm out soon) I have both almost never seen a queue, and would absolutely fucking love it if people queued.
It would eliminate all arguments over who's next, both from honest mistakes/misunderstandings, and the absolute snakes who jump their place with no regard for basic societal nicety. I have a sneaking suspicion the people moaning are the same ones who try to push their way in and demand they were there first.
Upper_Push_5860@reddit
Cultural pygmies. A bar is that length for a reason
ImBonRurgundy@reddit
My local has all the regulars sitting up at the bar getting their drink orders straightaway. Everyone else who wants to sit at a table or be outside has to join a long queue and be served from one specific spot.
Except there are no signs and it’s not immediately obvious, so lots of people just go straight to the front of the queue when a space opens up and often the bartender will just serve them anyway. It’s carnage
UrticateSeven@reddit
Yeah, may as well just have a hatch at that point and save space.
Lalepave@reddit
Waxy's Little Sister by Soho does have a hatch for taking drinks upstairs, it is pretty nifty.
RestaurantAntique497@reddit
I've only ever seen it happen in the Spoons in my town and tbh I don't really mind it.
glasgowgeg@reddit
It's annoying, but equally it stops prick bartenders giving priority to lassies they want to shag over folk who've been waiting there longer.
I still don't do it though.
RainbowPenguin1000@reddit
It’s great and far better and fairer for everyone.
The majority of people I encounter who don’t like it are 50+ and just don’t like change.
ChiefDraco@reddit
Ridiculous, queuing takes up so much unnecessary room in pubs, if you see a spot on the bar get your arm on there and crack on
rumblethecrumble@reddit
I think it’s easier to just stand along the bar.
I will say I’m seeing less queuing than I used to though. I think folk are getting out of that post-covid queueing habit that many had got into at the pub
josiejgurl@reddit
Anyone who thinks the bar system actually works should watch this. Cool little experiment towards the end too.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PgekDLw-bls
talligan@reddit
Seems silly but if everyone else is queuing then I'm going to follow suit.
This often coincides with someone condescendingly telling me I'm doing it wrong snd explaining to me how things are done in the UK once they've heard my accent. Nevermind that Ive lived here for 5 years and not queuing is also what they do back home in Canada. I'm just not arrogant enough to not read the room
RhysPawn@reddit
This is how the queues form though lol, a couple people start doing it, then people see the queue and think "oh I better join the queue" so then it keeps growing
Next time you see a queue at a bar, just walk straight past them, you'll feel much better for it.
talligan@reddit
No. What gives me the right to overrule them?
RhysPawn@reddit
Because they are wrong, and almost always when a queue forms in a bar or pub, it causes issues, bars and pubs are generally small places and tend to get busy very quickly, having a huge line of people stood in the way causes issues
Its not the same as skipping a queue of people in Tesco, bars and pubs have their own etiquette, and if you aren't familiar with it then that's your issue, and you feel free to stand in a meaningless queue, but just know people are going to walk right past you to the front, as they should.
talligan@reddit
Just because it's different from the norm, or from what you think is right and proper, does not mean I have the right to swoop in and upend it.
RhysPawn@reddit
Fair enough
I'll give you a nod when you're at the back of the queue when I'm on my way to the bar.
Tea-and-biscuit-love@reddit
Yes! This! It's so irritating. If I've had one or 2 already i break the politeness and just walk to the front, get served and everyone starts using the bar properly (and likely tutting at me in their head).
Why has this even become a thing? It feels like a 'covid keep'!
insertitherenow@reddit
It’s fucking stupid. I walked up to the bar recently and someone behind me said excuse there is a queue. I said I know. Idiots.
PastaMapChair@reddit
I’ll be honest I’m dead against it
bumbasquat86@reddit
Traditional pile on is the ONLY way
Sad_Advertising5520@reddit
Hang on, am I really seeing British people arguing against queuing? Which timeline did I wake up in this morning?
Psychological-Ad1264@reddit
Standing at the bar is still a queue, it's just for the people serving to know the order.
_Dreamer_Deceiver_@reddit
The order is generally whoever has the biggest non man boobs
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
And how often do they get it right? Unless it’s a small bar, I’ve found that bartenders don’t have the memory to remember the exact order when some people are getting a 5 drink order. Nor do they really care when they get it wrong.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
If you're being served later than "fair" it's probably because they don't like you. One of the advantages of the standing at the bar system is that the bartender gets to use his/her discretion.
mata_dan@reddit
Rubbish, if they don't like you enough to mess with the sacred fact of queue orders you're not welcome on the premises at all. The exception can be nightclubs.
Fantastic-Machine-83@reddit
I disagree but respect what you're saying
Due_Specialist6615@reddit
A good bar person is able to increase efficiency by having the ability to potentially serve more than one person. Whilst pouring a pint they can ask the next person what they are after and potentially be double dipping on an order, or see someone who is on Guinness or cider and just get one going whilst still doing the original order.
Lalepave@reddit
I mean it's been a largely functional system for hundreds of years to be fair.If all or even most bartenders were incapable of getting the right order that it'd have been done away with centuries ago.
Gaverick2503@reddit
Everyone knows their place in the queue, so even if the bar staff do slip up, it's generally resolved immediately with a quick point towards who's next.
Of course, it's susceptible to the odd knob head who doesn't want to wait, but that's just a general risk in many situations to be honest!
Same as in a barbers, you don't queue out of the door, just take a seat and respect the order between yourselves.
tonycocacola@reddit
The ones who know they are behind you but jump in anyway are wankers of the highest order.
Women are more guilty of this than men I think.
AdTop7432@reddit
They often get it pretty spot on, as i did when i worked behind the bar.
So long as you dont move from where you arrived, the staff will remember what parts of the bar get filled first and by which faces. Pretty easy to remember.
If the bar staff forget and look to serve you before someone else in the wrong order, it's courtesy to tell the barstaff who is first, and wait your turn honestly.
My way of recovering from forgetting who's next, was just to ask "who's next please?" To the people waiting, and they often agree on the right order.
Only time it becomes chaos, is when theyre 3 people deep. In which case, I'd try to serve two or three small orders at once to clear space at the bar and then eventually, everyone will organise themselves.
Waitsjunkie@reddit
You're seeing a lot of the people who do the shoving in front of others.
Icy_Obligation4293@reddit
You're seeing a lot of bartenders who are trying to explain to people that you get served faster without a queue.
Waitsjunkie@reddit
Tell that to the ones who constantly overlook me. They're not as good at the memory game as they think.
Jamesdarlo90@reddit (OP)
We’re professionals so we don’t have to do it in single file.
Sad_Advertising5520@reddit
Does it cause problems for bar staff, people queuing single file?
Lazy-Kaleidoscope179@reddit
Never been in a pub?
Sad_Advertising5520@reddit
Didn’t they all go extinct in 2020? Though my friend swears he spotted one in the Thames last week.
Trep_Normerian@reddit
Honestly.
OliMSmith_10@reddit
As a bartender for years, I can assure you I know who arrived and when. You shall be served accordingly.
Benny_82_@reddit
I'm a bloke therefore usually get bumped for all the good looking ladies; so I've reason to complain BUT nothing like slaloming through a packed bar; getting the order in and away with a wink and nod; whilst some poor bastard whos been waiting all night is eyeing up my pints on way out. Save the queue for the supermercado
iceman2g@reddit
It's an abomination.
Responsible_Trash199@reddit
I have never been to a pub, what’s the normal protocol?
heyitsed2@reddit
Tbh if I ran a pub I'd just be glad to have enough customers to form a queue.
flohara@reddit
Hmmm, from a hospitality point of view something is going tits up in a pub like that.
If everything is going well, most people should be sitting on their bums, drinking.
If we can't serve them drinks fast enough, queue forma, there's an issue. More staff is needed, better equipment, more training.
If we can't sit them, then the place is over capacity and that's a fire hazard. And probably a headache for the bouncers too, because people queuing are annoyed people.
RelativeStranger@reddit
Idk when I was at uni I was regularly at bars where multiple queues formed and the places were full
flohara@reddit
I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm saying it's a recipe for making your clientele go elsewhere, especially in the case of pubs.
Uni bars are a bit different, different demographic, they don't know the place well, and you get a new crop of students every year, so as long as the drinks are cheap any old heinous shit can happen.
With a pub you have to retain regulars.
RelativeStranger@reddit
Aye fair. Though when I find aa pub I like I'm the guy at the bar and don't have to wait for my drinks so it can be someone else's issue
CrossCityLine@reddit
Tbh if you ran a pub you’d know how horribly inefficient it is.
plesvegas@reddit
It’s utter bullshit
1HeyMattJ@reddit
Last time I was at a bar few weeks ago they had signs specifically telling people not to queue. What do you think people did?
2017JonathanGunner@reddit
It works in HUB in Japan. But not in Wetherspoons.
perrosandmetal78@reddit
I've just come back from the pub as it happens. I've still never seen this and really hope I never do! It's ridiculous.
scare_crowe94@reddit
Wrong, and it’s on us to make sure it doesn’t happen
Inevitable-Slide-104@reddit
I ignored a queue, went to the front and got served immediately. Bar staff smiled at me. I do bot feel bad :)
Psychological-Ad1264@reddit
I once did this at a hotel bar at Heathrow where the queue snaked out of the door because it was so long. There was a really long bar to be served at as well, so I sauntered up to it and a barman saw me, smirked and served me immediately.
The queue didn't find it funny though!
ThereAndFapAgain2@reddit
Did this on holiday last year where British people seemed to have exported this insanity to the hotels with a lot of British tourists.
Same thing happened to me. The queue was about 20 people long snaking well out of the bar, and I got served immediately lol
nogeologyhere@reddit
Fuck em, seriously.
atillathekitteh@reddit
My local pub's "bar" is a Dutch door with a counter about the size of a bar mat. It's an old shop that's one room downstairs with a second small seating area upstairs. You don't have a choice but to queue if you want a beer!
PadstheFish@reddit
It's a post-Covid phenomenon really. While it's easiest for the bar staff to keep order, I hate it. It's a bar - they're designed for queuing along and it's contingent on bar staff to actually keep track of who gets to the bar first. Causes queuing in spaces not designed for it.
MaxDaClog@reddit
Incorrect. Bars are for professional drinkers to sit at to ensure easy access to their next drink. People who choose to stand or sit anywhere else are clearly part timer lightweights, and who cares if they get served?
RelativeStranger@reddit
Tbf the guys at the bar can be served at the same time as others as barstaff already know their order. Thus using the normal 'waiting for the pint to pour' time
TheHumanTrout@reddit
Hate when theres not even seats at the bar and people decide to stand at it when its clearly busy. Sorry but Ill just need to reach across you to get my own drink, thanks.
greenmachine90@reddit
It's a bizarre, very recent, phenomenon. Literally yesterday I was at a pub with a semi-circular bar - folk were creating a single queue, I just walked round to the side and got served instantly. I imagine some of the people queuing thought I was a prick, but then I refuse to play by your made-up rules.
thomashrn@reddit
If you’ve ever worked in a bar and can do basic multitasking you know that a queue slows everything down.
Responsible_Club_638@reddit
Cunts the lot of them
SaleOk7942@reddit
It makes more sense - although means bar staff can't just choose to serve the one they fancy next!
Warm-Conclusion-8891@reddit
On one of the warmer days, I saw people queuing in a line out the door of a pub... What's that all about?
xXRadicalRexXx@reddit
When I'm working it's really fucking annoying, when I'm not working it's fine, I just skip the queue like a normal person and get my pint faster.
BigSkyFace@reddit
I know I shouldn't like a single file queue at the pub but I kind of do prefer when it's busy, and would go as far as to consider it an absolute necessity when at a busy music venue where naturally everyone is trying to order at the same time between acts.
Sure, when it's not busy I'm happy to do the classic spread out across the length of the bar honour system, but I hate it when the pub's rammed and you're relying on the people around you to not chance their arm and pretend they'd got to the bar before everyone else.
TheSecretIsMarmite@reddit
It's a holdover from COVID where people had to distance from each other. I ignore it and walk to an empty space at the bar.
BradleySpatchcock@reddit
Queues are for wimps that won’t speak up. From the other side of the bar, you can serve 2/3 customers at a time if you know what you’re doing
Ultimate_os@reddit
It’s all wrong. It also gets in the way of people trying to sit down and have a chat.
Embarrassed_Belt9379@reddit
When I’ve seen it happen it’s had a real impact on those people sat at tables already drinking. The queue ends up snaking between tables and through a space that is not designed for a queue. People stood with their arses at table level whilst others try and eat or drink must be infuriating.
Rubberfootman@reddit
I don’t get it. It is the only time I’m happy to go to the front of the queue. The bar staff know how it is supposed to work.
Only__Link@reddit
Nah, bartender here and I don't love a single file queue, but I absolutely will not serve anyone who just walks past it
FloydEGag@reddit
Then encourage them to spread out along the bar instead
Only__Link@reddit
I do :) I also tell the people who walk past blatantly waiting folk that there are other people before them.
Although, the bar I work at is wildly impractical in that the card machines are bolted to the bar, so a queue isn't the worst thing cause people also don't like being asked to walk to either end of the bar to pay when it's several people deep
HeartyBeast@reddit
So - you will serve people who walk past it - but in order?
Only__Link@reddit
To the best of my ability - yes. I should have said I won't prioritise those who walk past an obvious queue
HeartyBeast@reddit
I doff my cap to you, sir or madam
Rubberfootman@reddit
The last time I did it the bartender rolled his eyes at the queue and served me next.
JamesWoolfenden@reddit
It boils my piss. It supposed to be a social space. Drinks at the bar, talk to strangers, socialise. It's not fucking McDonald's.
spottedconzo@reddit
The only time I've ever done it is when the bar is full, and then there's a queue on top of that. The queue then filled in the spots at the bar as people got served
AcesAgainstKings@reddit
Depends on how busy. Personally I'd never start a queue. But if there's someone being served and someone queuing behind I might stand behind them since it's clearly quiet and I don't want to rumble things needlessly. But you can't have a 5+ queue at a bar. That's not how it works.
Misselphabathropp@reddit
Scumbag behaviour. Lowest of the low.
MunkeeseeMonkeydoo@reddit
We are not animals, we live in a society. We know who was before us.
InfinityEternity17@reddit
We do know but these days a lot of people tend to ignore that and just jump in whenever they like. Shame there's so many rude people like that.
64gbBumFunCannon@reddit
Looks ridiculous, takes up more space.
But as the bartender behind the bar, certainly makes it easier to serve the next person.
It also seems to dissuade people from standing at the bar blocking card terminals and places to put down drinks.
Ok-Chest-7932@reddit
Isn't that just more effective than crowding round the bar hoping you get spotted?
mexicocaro@reddit
I was thinking about this, is it because maybe there’s just one bar tender on shift? Like I remember Friday nights working in pubs and it being 10 deep but there might have been 4 or 5 of us on shift. Those days of working in pubs were cool, there was such an energy. I could do maths in my head, memorising full orders, multitasking serving and washing glasses and collecting glasses in massive stacks. Fun times.
jawide626@reddit
Utter woke nonsense.
Line the bar and just point to who was ahead of you, the way it should be.
mal0wn3d@reddit
Woke nonsense
Interesting_Ratio_65@reddit
It is a hangover from Covid as people say. I own a few pubs. It is very frustrating and we have managed to stamp it out in most of them now by only serving people that walk up to the bar, not the people in the queue. The problem is you have a long line sneaking through the middle of the pub blocking everybody else moving around it’s not helpful at all, especially if you wanna order food, etc.
Good bartenders know who is next and don’t need a queue. Queues put punters off.
kirkbywool@reddit
It's stupid and I saw it twice yesterday. 1st time another guy went around the queue and went to bar and o sroof next to him. A guy from the queue then forced himself inbetween us and started having a go at the guy who I was stood next to, being all passive aggressive saying I guess I will go here then as clearly some people don't know how a queue works. The guy at thebar told him it was pub and you go to bar bar so I left them to argue
Long_Tall_Man@reddit
Lifetime ban from every pub in the country .
Wardicles87@reddit
I was at one of those over 35 parties recently, Ken the one for over 35s? It was full of people over 35 who should know how British pub culture works, but they didn’t. They queued like Jimmy White, so when I went up to the empty bar, I got a pint quick…lots of tutting in my lugs but the barmaid gave me the pint and said, laughing, look at these idiots.
ferdinandsalzberg@reddit
Only at an airport
TheHumanTrout@reddit
Was at a bar the other day and a group of people were being served at the end of the bar, quite a few drinks so was taking a while. There was a queue of young student looking guys forming, pointing in parallel to the bar, to the right of these ladies. There was maybe 2 other bar staff doing glasses, cleaning etc because no one was actually AT the bar. I walk up, around the ladies, to the bar and immediately get served. The queue of idiots snaking around people tables then looked visibily annoyed, for being idiots.
EntertainerAlone1300@reddit
Barmaid here chiming in, it started during covid (I guess because of distancing requirements) and it seems that the 2 guilty demographics are over 60d that don’t come out a lot and people that have turned 18 since 2020
Weird-Statistician@reddit
Most pubs do not have space to form a queue at 90 degrees to the bar. You get in the way of everyone else in the pub. A good bartender should be able to keep tabs on whose next and punters should also self police this. It's Britain for God's sake.
Albert_Herring@reddit
I mostly drink somewhere with a bar with an active serving area about 7 feet long across the back of the space, so a queue kinda forms naturally when it gets packed. No big issue with that (a total scrum there would stop anybody from being able to get away from it after getting served.
scooseloosehoose@reddit
It can fuck right off! There is established pub etiquette that has been around forever and it works well.
cpbradshaw@reddit
For food only...
JAY009090@reddit
Truly awful behaviour and anyone doing this should rightfully be ashamed. Having said this, hospitality standards have slipped massively and bar staff generally seem unable to keep track of who is next or simply cannot be fucked to do so.
Mail-Malone@reddit
Can’t see the problem, it’s the quickest way to ensure everyone gets served as quick as possible. Saves all that “he’s next not me” malarkey, which I suspect those that don’t like a queue won’t do anyway so that’s another bonus.
rocketscientology@reddit
Wrong, the “he’s next” system IS a queue, horizontally along the bar. Forming a proper line is massively annoying given how tight the space in many pubs is. Who wants to be sat at a table trying to enjoy their pint with some queuer’s arse directly next to their face, while there’s acres of room along the bar where they could be standing instead?
Mail-Malone@reddit
I agree with the arse in the face, which is why I would move tables to somewhere away from the queue.
rocketscientology@reddit
To where? Most pubs don’t have loads of free space not already being used for tables, you’d have to remove them and reduce seating capacity.
Mail-Malone@reddit
Exactly, not loads of free space because they are full of tables. Move to one of those tables.
Let’s face it if queuing was detrimental to business the pubs would have signs saying “please no queuing”. It’s obviously working for them and the vast majority of their customers.
RhysPawn@reddit
If those tables are full because the bar is busy, then what do you do?
Lots of bars do have signs saying "please no queuing" and I imagine you'll be hardpressed to find a barstaff who actually likes the idea of a queue at a bar, every one I've ever spoken to absolutely hates it.
Mail-Malone@reddit
If those tables are full then you are standing anyway. What’s the issue?
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
Except people rarely do that unless it’s a countryside pub. Bartenders don’t give a shit about who was first, and too many arseholes have no problem pushing in front.
rocketscientology@reddit
I live in Zone 2 London and have pretty much never seen anyone not self-regulate the queue along the bar. Bartenders will always ask who’s next and people by and large are very good at making sure it goes in order.
Mysterious_Use4478@reddit
And do you go to big bars or little pubs? I would probably have agreed with you 10 years ago.
leicastreets@reddit
It’s less efficient. A good bartender can take 4-5 orders and run through them as efficient as possible.
Person 1: 2 Guinness, a cider and a G&T Person 2: 1 lager, 1 rum and coke, 2 wines.
I’ll go off, pour the two Guinness, cider and lager at the same time. Give to respective patrons, tell them the total. While they’re getting ready I’ll make the g&t, rum and coke and wine.
Multiply this over the course of a night and it’s exponentially more efficient.
Mail-Malone@reddit
You are the exception to the rule, a traditional bartender who can take and remember multiple orders and who ordered them. These days they have to tap each order into a POS and do one order at a time.
Respect to you, wish there were more like you but I fear technology, lack of training and trust have overtaken traditional skills, and it is an undoubtedly a skill being able to do what you do.
Actually I saw something new at the races the other week, the had bartenders taking the orders and staff behind the pumps poring the drinks and handing them forwards when ready. It worked well queue or no queue as once the order was placed they’d go to the next person waiting. It was really efficient. Very similar to you want you do but a step up even further in efficiency. First time at the races without having to wait ages to get another drink.
leicastreets@reddit
I stopped bartending in 2017 and we were mainly still using cash at that time so I could give change without going to the till too.
I’m sure it’s different these days as everyone is tapping their phone. Covid did a number on pub culture & etiquette. When I was bartending there was definitely an element of competition between staff to see who could serve the most drinks. There was a pretty high skill level.
The way festivals and races are set up is great if there’s a very limited range of drinks (which there usually is due to pouring partnerships).
Mail-Malone@reddit
Yea, can’t remember the last time I saw a bar tender doing mental arithmetic. Back in the 2000’s I helped a friend set up juice bar, I’d take a order and tell them total before going to the till, the mainly teenagers he had working there simply couldn’t fathom how I could do that. As you say back then it was mostly cash for these type of transactions that has definitely changed since Covid.
Saying that I like pub with an app’ these days, and thank Covid for that, although Wetherspoons were ahead of the game on that pre-covid.
Sheeepie2@reddit
agreed, sure it's not "correct" and i won't do it by default, but if someone ahead of me starts a queue then i'm happy to join, and i agree it does make sense.
the people who make a fuss about stuff like this just like a whinge for the sake of it
Mail-Malone@reddit
Same here, happy either way, no complaints if there is queue equally happy if there isn’t. As long as I get my drink I’m a happy bunny.
IcyPuffin@reddit
The problem lies in the fact it can impact the space in the bar itself.
I can imagine the nuisance it would be in my local pub. There isn't room for such queues.
Just keep things the way they have always been in pubs - gathering round the bar. The bar staff are often well aware of who was there first the old way.
GetSpammed@reddit
I noticed this happen the first time I came back for a visit post-pandemic… very very odd, and stupid. I want no part of it.
Pubs have always been self policing - ‘he’s next’ and so on. I learnt this early, when I was drinking in flat roof pubs and town centre pubs at the age of 15 with a dodgy NUS card.
ukpunjabivixen@reddit
Whilst it feels a little strange, it’s fairer I guess?
As a 5’2” lady, it’s def easier than pushing in to find a space at the bar. It’s hard enough as it is!
Icy_Obligation4293@reddit
It feels fair until you want to order a bottle of corona and the person "next in line" just ordered six espresso martinis. Without the line, the bartender could just hand that bottle over to you while continuing to make the cocktails. It feels fair until you join the back of a twenty person queue and every single person, when it's their turn, takes a minute to decide what they want, then the bartender has to wait for their Guinness to settle, then they have to stand while the customer rumbles with their purse, then they have to wait for the payment to go through, then the customer has to make two trips down to their table to drop off all their drinks, then the bartender says "who's next?" and you do that twenty times in series. Then parallel service (no line) might start to feel a bit fairer.
Librase@reddit
As a 4'11 lady who may or may not be on the spectrum, this is why I generally avoid pubs. Lovely places, stressy social conventions.
lalajia@reddit
same!
cosmiclube@reddit
We should order on an app. Then collect from a collection point at the bar. No queue jumping possible.
ClintonLewinsky@reddit
Bloody gen Z
Destroying the cameraderie of the bar chaos
808jammin@reddit
Shite fucking shite
InsecureInscapist@reddit
I went to a Sam Smiths pub for years until one day they told me you were supposed to queue. Bizarre.
WilkoCEO@reddit
I work in a pub kitchen near a football stadium. We get hundreds come through the doors before kickoff, so a queue forms due to the volume of people. The only annoying thing to me is people blocking up the entrance/exit to the bar while waiting, and just staring at their pint being poured rather than what else is going on around them
sleepflowr@reddit
This has been a thing for years. Used to work the bar at a fairly busy hotel that did events and the amount of times a night I’d have to shout people to spread out was ridiculous
Yikes-Yak@reddit
People should merge in turn
jugglingeek@reddit
Push to the front as fast as possible, then say “actually it’s this person next” when you get served.
That’s the way it’s always been. I don’t see why we have to change it.
Namiweso@reddit
I feel like this comes up every month and I haven’t seen this since 2022. Where are people experiencing this?
hardyflashier@reddit
I don't get this one. I go to a bar, I want a beer. There were other people who wanted one before me. I wait my turn, and get my beer. Often, I'm just glad to see the pub busy. In fact, it's very common on a pub quiz night, when there will be limited periods between questions to get another drink, so it's only natural for it to be busy.
nogeologyhere@reddit
Queuing in lines, not just waiting for a beer
hardyflashier@reddit
Personally I'd rather a line (so you know who is next), than a vague free-for-all, as the person who should be next, is often not the one who gets served. If I accidentally jump a queue I'm mortified, so I wouldn't mind having clarity.
DimitriCushion@reddit
It's just a really inefficient use of space though, there's a long bar with no-one at it and a queue that invariably snakes towards the entrance getting in everyone's way.
mauben@reddit
It's utterly idiotic and I hate it.
-You_Cant_Stop_Me-@reddit
I love it because I get served when I stand at the bar while people queue to the door.
spammmmmmmmy@reddit
The only way to queue is in a line
Immorals1@reddit
I see a queue, I walk straight to the bar like a normal person.
15 years of hospitality experience and think it's ridiculous.
no_mate@reddit
Yookay-ification
Fit-Tailor-613@reddit
People slagging off bartenders need to drink in better pubs
Gouldy444444@reddit
Nonsense and I refuse to join them.
Fit-Tailor-613@reddit
Fucking hate it
Forward-Leopard-3194@reddit
This is what happens when amateurs drink
GL510EX@reddit
The tricky one is when it's a pub/restaurant and you have to order food at the till.
Fantastic_Routine_55@reddit
Hate it.
xcb03@reddit
in the wise words of sean himself, utter woke nonsense.
sqmiler@reddit
STOP IT!
No-Decision1581@reddit
Bollocks to them, I'm leaning on the bar waiting
Toenex@reddit
A good bar is still a queue. We all know who is next we are just not lined up behind one and other.
Wonderful-Cow-9664@reddit
Never seen it, but it’s been years since I’ve gone out on a Friday night. People just used to cried round any available bar space, and the barmen/maids just had this incredible skill for keeping track of who was next
Lalepave@reddit
That's still the case for most places. Queues are still relatively rare I would say, but growing. Oddly I mostly see them when things are relatively quiet.
I went to the Parcel Yard at Kings X a few months ago and there was a queue despite it being dead quiet. I was enraged.
I then went again more recently when it was relatively busy and there was no queue. However, the bar staff were doing an appalling job of keeping track of who was next and I did not get served in order.
Few_Value_455@reddit
Saw this for the first time at xmas. Queue at one end of the bar an the rest was clear. Walked up to the clear part and was instantly served, got the round in, and one bloke came over and got all snotty about there being a queue. Told him that may be but I'm getting served now and he slunk off back to the queue. Bartender didn't give a fuck about it, he saw someone stood at the bar and served them. As it should be, you want to stand 10 yards back and wait best of luck to you but I'm getting a drink.
HailToTheKingslayer@reddit
Makes no sense IMO. Bars are long, so people can line across them. Lining in single file just gets in the way of the rest of the pub. Inefficient use of space.
Lalepave@reddit
My local has a sign that says "Please do not stand at the bar" which is intended to mean "don't stand there drinking when we're trying to serve people behind you" but is understandably confusing to regular people waiting at the bar to get served.
Nosworthy@reddit
Most people hate it. I don't mind it. I'm 6'5ft so usual not directly in the barman's eye line. All my life I've found I tend to get ignored in the busy bars when the barman looks up and glances at who is next.
Waitsjunkie@reddit
Those of us who are quiet and not particularly pushy get the same. This stuff about people just knowing who is next is BS. I suspect they're the same people who would push in front of me waving cash between their fingers.
Old-Parfait8194@reddit
I begrudgingly joined the back of the queue to the bar last night.
It was absolutely ridiculous, the queue was in the way of people trying to get to the toilet or staff carrying food.
You'd think they'd have the sense to wait somewhere to get served where there's more room like around the bar for instance which was clear.
Lalepave@reddit
You've got to be the change you want to see in the world. I have, to my eternal shame, have joined the queue once or twice. When I saw it happen in my local back home (i.e. not in London) I knew I had to take a stand, and I did. Since then it's been a lot easier.
takesthebiscuit@reddit
I studied this carefully in a spoons when waiting for a train
The daft queue was SLOWER to serve than a group waiting at the bar
Folk in the queue have to wait their turn, while doing so they are on their phones, discussing things with their pals, distracted
Then they need called forward, this takes a few seconds, then they often need to gather their thoughts to place the order, this also takes time
All this adds up and in a busy bar can increase order time by about 10-20%.
That’s an extra member of staff
Full_Metal_Penguin@reddit
On paper it sounds amazing, that you can serve one after the other without too much hassle and less likelihood of irate customers pushing to the bar and demanding a drink despite the fact there were ten people before them patiently waiting. In reality it's far from that. A lot if not most pubs are old buildings that weren't designed for people to stand in a line and a massive queue of people will encroach on other operations of the pub, block routes to toilets, exits, etc.
What I think would work better is having a dedicated section of the bar, kept clear so that nobody is allowed to sit or stand at unless ordering a drink. The pub I work at is divided into two main sections, the bar area itself and pool area, with ample seating all round. I've noticed a growing trend lately on nights at full capacity (not just in my workplace but a lot of other places around) where the pool area is abandoned, and EVERYONE is crammed up to the bar in any available space they can find.
What you're getting is every single barstool occupied and their mates or whatever standing next to them in a high traffic area, meaning you literally have to force your way through a throng of people to get a drink. The only way to get out the back to the car park, beer garden or toilets is also this section, so what you have is forty to fifty people packing themselves like sardines into the highest traffic area of the building creating a potentially dangerous situation.
Current system works better, what's needed is something to keep the bar area clear as possible to maintain smooth operation.
rubygloommel@reddit
As someone who's really short and gets missed by bartenders a lot it sounds good in theory but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work very well in practice in terms of streamlining overall service.
PiingThiing@reddit
Good bar staff know who is next.
Yaseuk@reddit
I have no problem if there is a “food till” at a bar that you have to form a queue in able to order food. That way people who just want a drink can use the bar and spread out and be served more quickly
speedover@reddit
Ridiculous. Why and how has it become a thing over the last few years?!
quickfix12@reddit
You stand at the bar not in queues, if someone next to you (directly Left and right) has been there before you you point to them if bartender asks you #simpleBritishSolution
sjw_7@reddit
This is usually done by people who aren't used to pubs and don't go there very often. It ruins it for everyone so needs to stop.
They should setup special beginner or starter pubs. A bit like tutorial areas in games. They should not be allowed into normal pubs until they have completed these and learned how bar etiquette works including things like not having the volume up when watching tic-tok videos or half way through ordering going back to their table to check on what someone wants. They also need to be taught about how a round works so they don't waste everyones time individually buying drinks.
The booze should be very weak and they should serve nothing that cant be poured straight from a bottle or the tap. Need to get them used to ordering simple quick to make drinks so they don't get daft ideas in their heads like ordering cocktails in a pub.
Once they master the basics they can be promoted to normal pubs but on a probationary basis. If they start doing weird things they can be sent back to the starter pubs to complete their training again.
amran04@reddit
Utter woke nonsense
EnderMB@reddit
This'll be an unpopular opinion. I think queues in pubs are awful - but it at least keeps the ordering honest. There are few things worse than lining up at a bar, having people join, and those people getting served (usually fit women or friends of the person behind the bar) before you.
You shouldn't queue at a bar. The function of the bar is to have people lined up against it. With that said, I do think a lot of bartenders (I fucking hate that word) aren't great at keeping the ordering in their head.
NonsensePotterNeil@reddit
Necessary when the bar is only 75cm wide
Leather-Payment-1354@reddit
Very not british
Willing-Confusion-56@reddit
Always happens in spoons. Many a time I've walked to the bar and some tool grunted "here mate, there's a queue here" to which I reply "you don't queue in a Wetherspoons". Been backed up by bar staff many times.
Willing-Confusion-56@reddit
Although I will add that if it's a working man's club then yes, queue, or you'll be out on yer arse.
Gaverick2503@reddit
I find working mens clubs generally have a barrier running parallel to the bar that herds people into queueing along the bar, probably the only type of queue I don't mind in a drinking establishment.
Liamzinho@reddit
Why are we all suddenly calling them “bartenders”? People have been watching too much American TV.
AllColoursSam@reddit
Get served and move on. People just hanging around at the bar are weirdos.
propostor@reddit
I saw it once at my local wetherspoons. Totally clear bar area, with a long line of people in an orderly queue snaking through one of the seating areas.
One of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen at a pub.
So I turned right around and left.
Senor_Pus@reddit
Terrible
Milly_man@reddit
Absolutely moronic behaviour.
Nohopeinrome@reddit
I actively avoid bars that have throngs of people pushing in front of each other to get a drink, I go to places with table service now.
DeapVally@reddit
If they've got a till just doing food orders, then that's cool I guess. Keeps the bar clear for those of us who prefer liquid sustenance, and keeps the service moving.
WetDogDeodourant@reddit
It’s the rise of electronic tills, at some pubs, you’ll likely only get served by a till, so you queue for a till.
Klakson_95@reddit
Negative
miowiamagrapegod@reddit
What confuses you about it? Everyone gets served in the right order and you don't get dickheads clicking their fingers at bar staff to demand their attention like some kind of animal. The only reason I can see to being upset about this is if you're the kind of person who thinks because they're a self-proclaimed "regular" that they deserve preferential treatment
Ok_Raspberry5383@reddit
Where do I lean?
Defiant_Practice5260@reddit
Or because you're a hot girl who always catches the eye of the barman and gets served first, regardless.
WelshBluebird1@reddit
Or because it disrupts the rest of the space in the pub, causing queues through spaces that aren't meant for it and quite often results in people literally blocking pathways through the place.
CurlyWantsToTango@reddit
Utter woke nonsense
Ok_Raspberry5383@reddit
This is the comment I came for
Giorggio360@reddit
I don’t mind it.
Queueing single file is a much fairer system because everybody gets served in turn, you don’t get people pushing in or end up stuck behind a large order by guessing wrong, and the bartender doesn’t need to keep a mental note of who is next.
However it takes up a lot more room in the pub and makes it harder to see exactly what’s on tap or behind the bar before you get to ordering.
I think it depends on the pub and what they’d prefer.
Ok_Raspberry5383@reddit
What do I lean on?
Sufficient-Cold-9496@reddit
I have yet to see it, but would assume they were queuing for food or something not normal, so i would ignore them and bypass the weird queue and go to the bar as normal. Pubs that is with a normal bar are one if the few places you do not queue in a line
jinglesan@reddit
I hate it, and it should be banned.
BUT! If people are trying to queue then why do it across the room? Why not line up along the bar rather than having a 20-foot row of dickheads cutting the space in half
Aggravating-Menu466@reddit
Wrong, wrong, so very very wrong...
farmpatrol@reddit
Yeah my first experience was in Dublin. I know it’s not the UK but FFS. A flipping queue.
I was only in there as it has a rooftop smoking bar. Absolutely ridiculous and they made no money off me.
teekay61@reddit
I blame COVID
PaulieMcWalnuts@reddit
If your working at the bar and people queue orderly, makes it harder to ignore that dick that you want to make wait
BaseballFuryThurman@reddit
*you're
xenojive@reddit
BaseballFuryThurman@reddit
Whatever helps
justan_other@reddit
https://youtu.be/PgekDLw-bls?si=sQvUDI3nxTepFRj6
Dave Gorman explains how to get served.
And_Justice@reddit
The current system of bar tender somehow keeps tabs on who arrived first out a crowd of 20 people is fucking ridiculous and I don't understand why people defend it for anything other than fear of change
Psychological-Ad1264@reddit
Because you can have a long bar that has the vast majority of it unused and a queue that is snaking halfway around the pub, blocking people moving around it.
And_Justice@reddit
Then queue along the bar
Psychological-Ad1264@reddit
That doesn't work when it's three deep.
And_Justice@reddit
Queues are single file, if you're in a three-deep queue then you're queueing wrong
Psychological-Ad1264@reddit
I'm guessing you don't know what a queue being three deep at the bar means, because if you tried to do that single filed, you'd cause mayhem.
BemaJinn@reddit
Here, here!
And the amount of times I've been passed over because someone was more obnoxious and louder than me is ridiculous. It shouldn't be "whoever is the biggest cunt gets served first", although I suspect that's why so many defend the current barbaric norm.
TheTinman369@reddit
What an absolute beta you are
BemaJinn@reddit
Point proven.
Never met anyone that subscribed to the alpha/beta bullshit that wasn't a grade A cunt.
TheTinman369@reddit
Resorting to name calling. Not only a wimp but an ignorant one too. No wonder the barman serves your panda pop last
Jamesdarlo90@reddit (OP)
Woke nonsense
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
A vertical queue perpendicular to a horizontal bar is logistical nonsense.
Nothing to do with “fear of change”
And_Justice@reddit
Then form the queue parallel to it
HotelPuzzleheaded654@reddit
Or, crazy idea, just stand at the bar so you aren’t blocking the seating areas of the pub.
And_Justice@reddit
Or queue so that people who got there first get served first
MarthaFarcuss@reddit
Wasn't all that bothered about it until bartenders lost the ability to keep track of who's next.
Additionally, the unwritten rule was if the batman served you when someone else had been waiting, you'd say so. That doesn't happen any more
Kaurblimey@reddit
woke nonsense
Accomplished_Good127@reddit
This is why I love Witherspoon's. I wish more large pubs used similar phone apps for ordering, saves so much time for everyone
DarthKrataa@reddit
Its so fucking weird....
Everyone knows how this works, you lean against the bar, do a quick scan of who is there and make sure they get served before you.
You don't line up behind Doris and Dave like your at Tesco.
BaseballFuryThurman@reddit
It's provided another nice easy way for people on the UK subreddits to say "Hey guys does anyone else hate this?!" and get some easy karma.
Acceptable-Heron6839@reddit
Can’t fucking stand it. I will happily walk past the line and go stand at the bar and wait for my turn to be served like a normal person.
xGREENxEYEx@reddit
It’s definitely a hangover from Covid and social distancing.
cator_and_bliss@reddit
Scum. Subhuman scum.
FloydEGag@reddit
Fucking stop it. Bars are built that way for a reason. Also if the staff encourage it they should be sent for retraining. That is all.
BottleGoblin@reddit
As long as I get served at some point I dont care tbh. Things change. Used to be years ago they didn't even have bars, and people still got drunk just fine.
Dabzovic@reddit
Massive queue yesterday and I avoided it and got served straight away by going to the bar. Queuing also just crowds the pub up as well.
gummibear853@reddit
You queue along the bar to peruse the taps and decide what you want to order. Can’t do that from the back of a line where you can’t see them
SmegmaSandwich69420@reddit
Get metal barriers and implement a cattle grid system just to make sure folk keep queueueueueing properly.
TheTinman369@reddit
Worked in bars and it is incredibly easy to track who is next to be served. Even when it is very very busy. The only reason a server would let someone skip ahead of you is if you're rude or smelly
zonked282@reddit
I don't hate it , if there is a logical approach. Nothing worse than taking your place on the bar only for your areas designated barman to get stuck making 8 different cocktails as everyone else gets served their pint sharpish
awoodedglade@reddit
Nah, I’ve seen it a couple of times & still gone to the bar. Happy to wait my turn but I’ll do it at the bar, as is the norm.
No_Eye_8432@reddit
Despite going to pubs for 25 years I’m terrible at getting a barperson’s attention. I would never queue though, as often times a long snake of people gets in the way. I even told a guy to go to the bar beside me when he stood directly behind me at an empty one a couple of weeks ago. Weirdo.
LakesRed@reddit
Fairly impractical for reasons people have outlined but as a shy and reserved person I love the idea behind it because there are some bars where if you're not leaning halfway over, pushing in front of people and giving piercing and unrelenting eye contact to the bar staff you will be there for hours.
Rap-oleon_Bonaparte@reddit
Bad use of space in most places, be fairer and quicker way to get served in any busy place, really it doesn't matter to me the pub can decide which way they want it can't they.
deformedfishface@reddit
Just walk right passed them up to the bar like a human being.
durkheim98@reddit
Never seen it at any of the pubs I go to. Was this at some Green King place in the suburbs?
Accomplished-Pen-69@reddit
Weird seeing it happen in ex local. Mainly people who were ordering food and never visited a pub ever before.
-_-___--_-___@reddit
For drinks?
I don't see a problem with a line for food orders at the till and then going up to the bar for drinks as normal.
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