Did fast food restaurants used to serve higher quality meals?
Posted by SirGingerbrute@reddit | Xennials | View on Reddit | 465 comments
As a Gen Zer I feel like fast food has declined a bit in my lifetime. Wondering if people feel the same who have been able to see it for 40-50 years.
Seems like the fast food places continue to cut corners and lower quality. It’s more noticeable in the “fast casuals” like Chipotle or Panera that used to be really good but seem to have lost their flair.
Did this same thing happen to McDonalds or Burger King or have they always been the way they are now with their quality
AdComfortable5486@reddit
Everything has gone downhill steadily since the late 80’s-early 90’s.
JesusJudgesYou@reddit
Remember when Applebees good? Burger King was so good too.
zerocoolforschool@reddit
Even noticeable in the last 10 years or so. Prices have doubled but quality has gone down drastically. Taco Bell is the perfect example.
_SmashLampjaw_@reddit
Exactly. We're paying way more for even worse stuff.
That's not how this is supposed to work.
zerocoolforschool@reddit
And that’s how this tariff shit is gonna work too. Everything is about to get so much more expensive.
jojocookiedough@reddit
They brought back Mexican Pizzas and somehow made it absolute shit compared to the og. It used the be my favorite thing on the menu, I don't even bother going at all anymore.
mofreek@reddit
I saw Mexican pizza on a list of worst TB foods and just dismissed the entire article, b/c the author was clearly not in touch with reality.
Read this, realized I haven’t had one since 1989, and it all clicked.
_MellowGold@reddit
Still pissed about them dropping green onions because of an e coli scare 20 years ago. Never brought them back.
ForceGhost47@reddit
Yup. It doesn’t have the same crunch
dbzmah@reddit
what? You don't like a wafer thin, corn esque, "tostada?"
Objective-Amount1379@reddit
Taco Bell is one place that is still reasonably priced IMO
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
taco bell never made me sick, either, but now? i feel sick
what_the_purple_fuck@reddit
Taco Bell got rid of the seven layer burrito, and in so doing completely invalidated any possible justification for their continued existence.
fruity_oaty_bars@reddit
Their taco salads used to be so good! Back when they put black olives in them.
Imhappy_hopeurhappy2@reddit
I think a major factor was the 08 recession. I distinctly remember Wendy’s overhauling their menu around 09 and it was the beginning of the end. The food was still decent, but you could tell they were on a mission to coast on branding from then on.
Smurfblossom@reddit
I never thought it was possible for Taco Bell to be flavorless but good heavens it's happened.
zerocoolforschool@reddit
And their shells crumble and break. Very low quality.
Smurfblossom@reddit
The shells have no flavor either. Before they were lightly salted.
aerodeck@reddit
EVERYTHING was better when Bill Clinton was President
stefanica@reddit
Hell, ol Reagan is looking better by the minute.
TimeSpiralNemesis@reddit
Remember when getting a BJ at work was the biggest scandal ever and got 24/7 news coverage?
How the fuck did we get where we are now lol.
SerpentineSorceror@reddit
Man, if kicking on the Super Hadron Collider pushed us into this shitshow timeline then we need to kick it back on and find a way to get our asses back to when The President getting a hummer on Easter while on the phone with a diplomat was the worst thing to come out of the White House. Fuck, let's go back an undo the fucking Reagan administration just to be on the safe side. An extended Carter administration transition to a Mondale presidency is a timeline I'm willing to run with by a huge margin.
cocococlash@reddit
Marty McFly needs to fix this shit
TimeSpiralNemesis@reddit
I'm feeling something about "Industrialized society" welling up in my brain 🤔
SerpentineSorceror@reddit
Instructions Unclear, Returned to Monke.
SockGnome@reddit
Remember how you could watch a debate between the candidates but they still spoke kindly about the character of their opponent while attacking their policies?
carymb@reddit
Remember when the candidates each had both of those things, character and policies?
LeafyCandy@reddit
Right? Dude got impeached for lying to Congress. They don't care about that anymore.
catjuggler@reddit
Idk sept 11th was right after?
SockGnome@reddit
Kermit did 9/11
dismayhurta@reddit
Rich people realized they could squeeze out the last bit of the middle class by using a culture war to empower a traitor to fuck our country over so they could buy the pieces of it.
Other-Opposite-6222@reddit
I always say this. Gas was 98 cents a gallon and blow jobs didn’t count. I was a teenager that was perfect.
cheerful_cynic@reddit
For a single glorious minute, there was an actual literal budget surplus
Studds_@reddit
If only more realized this. Instead we get leaders who constantly have to dig us out of a hole or dig us a deeper one
AdComfortable5486@reddit
Well, I’m from Canada so can’t speak to that specifically- but for sure times were better during that period.
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
I have tshirts from about 1992 that are thick and intact. i don't have any tshirts from the past 20 years, they wore holes too fast.
CjKing2k@reddit
Morpheus: "You believe the year is 1999..." Agent Smith: "... the peak of your civilization."
Cephalopod_Dropbear@reddit
I thought it was funny in 1999. Now I know it’s accurate and I’m sad….
torev@reddit
I’d happily live in 99 again. Was a teenager back then but being there as an adult actually sounds really nice.
warm_sweater@reddit
It’s going to make me sound like an old man but it really was an amazing time… Internet but no social media, cellphones were present but not ubiquitous, and camera phones were years away still.
Fuck man.
Spamberguesa@reddit
We seriously did not know how good we had it.
warm_sweater@reddit
Sure didn’t! Sometimes I think nostalgia for that time makes living through all this bullshit now even worse.
DrAtizzle@reddit
Remember the movie “fight club” and all of the “injustices” that were being highlighted in that movie? I’m like this guy had things pretty good… what a spoiled brat
PapaTua@reddit
Hahahaha, totally.
SockGnome@reddit
All in a quest to please fucking shareholders.
effitalll@reddit
I know I certainly have.
tryp66@reddit
I would eat so much more 90s fast food if I knew then how much it would suck in the future. 90s Wendy’s and Pizza Hut were the shit and now I won’t even eat there.
Akp1072@reddit
Yes. I was out of the country last year and ate at a McDonald’s. All I could think was it tasted like the 90s. Like it is supposed to. It was so much fresher and seemed healthier. Long lost memories of nuggies.
5050Clown@reddit
They used to make the beans at Taco Bell, like cook them from beans. They'd mix the salsa. Their tortillas had this taste to them that reminds me of the Mexican festivals that I used to go to as a kid in Southern California. Like they were grilled over flame.
Taco Bell used to be a completely different thing.
Horror_Garbage_9888@reddit
Whoppers used to be so good. Now just sloppy bland mess. I also loathe the new commercials so kinda on a boycott until that campaign is over.
CapitalElk1169@reddit
Whoppers have actually increased in quality and size again in the last few years. I think they're almost back to 2000's if not 90's quality (at least in Canada) but they are a LOT better than they were 10 years ago.
My dad has a Polaroid of him with one in the late 70s or early 80s though and they were like ridiculously large back then, lol.
Iron_Butterflyy@reddit
(at least in Canada)
Says it all right there. :) Corporations have to be nicer to you, maybe. Here in the states everything is amok. Keep up the good fight from up there!
LeafyCandy@reddit
And they were large! The Whoppers now are the size the cheeseburgers were back then. They were called Whoppers for a reason, and they need to change the name because it just doesn't fit anymore.
Cisru711@reddit
Whoppers are still a quarter pound burger, as they always have been. Perhaps you ordered a Whopper jr., which is 1/8 pound same as their hamburger/cheeseburger.
LeafyCandy@reddit
I don't order them, but my husband does. Having worked at BK in the '90s, I can assure you that they're smaller.
Cisru711@reddit
I also worked at BK in the 90s and 1/4 lb. was the precooked size then and now. The only change could be if they increased the fat content of the patty, which would cook off while it goes through the broiler, leaving a small patty after cooking.
JupiterJonesJr@reddit
Do you remember in the mid 90's when the Whopper was .99? Glorious times.
BigTastyTumbo@reddit
Indeed. We had open lunch at my high school w a BK about ½ mile away. More than once my friends and I ran there, we EACH got 3 Whoppers, a large fries and a large Coke for $5, smashed them in a blaze of greasy glory and then had to run the ½ mile back to school. How I didnt puke all over the street is anyone's guess🤣
medievalkitty2@reddit
Because you were in high school and gastronomically invincible. Man, I miss those days. Lol.
JupiterJonesJr@reddit
Right lol. Nowadays a single Pringle past midnight and I start looking for my buddy Alka-Seltzer.
warm_sweater@reddit
29 cent cheeseburger days!
TFBidia@reddit
Burger King used to legit taste like it was grilled. I miss that.
LeafyCandy@reddit
Because it pretty much was.
Iron_Butterflyy@reddit
The International Chicken Sandwiches were always awesome! And the BK fish sandwich used to be majestic, twice as big as it's successor and served with really good tartar sauce . Not good for you, but so good...
critic2029@reddit
The food itself was about the same. More care was taken in its preparation and presentation.
All the restaurants had similar quality to chick fil a. Chick fil a seems like an exception now but it’s just the last one doing it the way they all to do it.
sajouhk@reddit
We should all just stop buying their slop, if able, because it’s all terrible now. Whataburger (love it or not back in the day) used to be great to me but then the FIB’s bought it and have destroyed it. There’s even a Whataburger on the Vegas strip now.
NicWester@reddit
They sure did! But then each one got taken over by finance bros who don't care about anything except the margins. They realized they were just about at maximum revenue and opening new locations cost money that took too long to recoup--so why not just charge the same amount as before and cut costs by using shittier ingredients?
dcgrey@reddit
Dunkin Donuts is the one that kills me. Not that it was ever the greatest but when a private equity company bought it, they bit by bit made everything worse. The doughnuts are smaller and taste of anything but dough. The coffee used to be great but now tastes like half-machine, and they successfully marketed the hell out of iced coffee...paying more for less coffee. I cringe at my fellow Massachusettsans who act like there's a long tradition of proving your indifference to cold by drinking your morning iced coffee in the winter...as if iced coffee hadn't been something we all mocked as a rip-off a generation ago.
sajouhk@reddit
I’ve been trying to pronounce “Massachusettsans” for about an hour now 🤣
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
krispy creme donuts aren't special anymore, they're just donuts. I've heard the same has happened to Tim Horton's in canada
NicWester@reddit
They used to make the donuts there, now they make them elsewhere and just heat them up there. It's Bad, Actually!
dcgrey@reddit
You walk in and it doesn't smell like doughnuts or coffee...everything is usually "corporate pristine", so you end up smelling whatever the most recent customers brought in on the soles of their shoes.
MrVeazey@reddit
That's capitalism, baby.
thejaytheory@reddit
Freakin' private equity, ahhh!
the_balticat@reddit
Fuck the finance bros
NicWester@reddit
Damn straight! They're parasites. Toys R Us was perfectly sound, then private equity leveraged a bunch of bets using it as collateral, busted on all of them, and that was the end of Toys R Us in the USA.
Right_Hour@reddit
Mickey D’s is still holding up pretty good.
But nowadays you can get a much better meal out of a food truck or even a restaurant takeout at fast food prices, so, a) fast food makes less sense; and b) we have comparable better options.
It’s not that the fast food became especially bad, it’s that we have waaaay more options now than we did back in the 90s and we are eating much better in general. There is some enshittification, sure, but I feel like it’s just m’re pronounced in comparison.
spacegoste@reddit
America has cut regulations on food. And so the quality has gone down. Everywhere used to be better. The laws pretty much ensured it. Large cooperations bought out the government and save money selling worse products.
tomqvaxy@reddit
Yeah. Sadly and weirdly, yeah. More cost-effective somehow too. In short, fast food is slow expensive and I’m not even sure it’s food anymore. Burn it all.
SnooHobbies7109@reddit
It feels like healthier options have really diminished
Adorable_Is9293@reddit
In the 90s, you could specify how well cooked you wanted your burger at Burgerville. Medium rare? Done!✅
AceUnderTheHole@reddit
90s Wendy's was glorious. Spicy Chicken Sandwich was a fine cut.
frooootloops@reddit
Oh my god for real. Spicy chicken sandwich, cheese only- and that’s when .30 cents of cheese got you not just one but TWO slices of the best cheese ever!
AceUnderTheHole@reddit
RIP Dave Thomas.
RhubarbIcy9655@reddit
His program of hiring downs syndrome employees was terrific. Those yellow restaurants with brown menus were always so clean, and the employees were so friendly compared to today's experience. Also, the jr bacon cheese used to be an all time classic, the buns were slightly sweet and bacon was so much better than it is now.
prstele01@reddit
The bun and meat quality has dropped so much since Yellow Wendy’s.
I used to think of Wendy’s as a treat.
Now Wendy’s is Plan C…
RhubarbIcy9655@reddit
Haven't been to one since early covid times. I placed an app order for in store pickup, drove up and walked in to grab it. Employee says, "Lobby is closed, you have to use the drive thru" I was about to leave when the manager asks "how did you get in here? We are closed! Get out before I call the cops." This caught me completely off guard since I had been polite and cooperative in the 15 or so seconds I had been in the store. After that encounter, i decided not to jump into the 25 car line since I had a 30 minute lunch break and went back to work sans food. I've never been back out of principle.
Training-Fold-4684@reddit
That manager sounds like a terrible person. And a bad manager. Can't even lock a fucking door.
sorrymizzjackson@reddit
We have the singular worst Wendy’s on planet earth in our little hamlet. The nuggets are horrid. How do you fuck up chicken nuggets?!
thejaytheory@reddit
For real though....I am for real!
(Sorry couldn't resist)
thejaytheory@reddit
Yeah fuck that!
Burglekutt_3000@reddit
Wendy’s made me sad the other day. Mad too. It was not tasty!
DearBurt@reddit
He had a house near where I grew up, and over the holidays he’d have Christmas-light deer in his front yard, which we’d make hump each other.
Wendy-Windbag@reddit
My family had those deer in our front yard, and one night my senior year of high school as I was sneaking out, I found that someone did that to our deer and it really upset me. The robotic grazing movement just made for the perfect graphic hunch.
Probably ten years later I'm telling this story to a coworker that is just a couple years older than me. She makes a weird face and grabs the phone to call her husband on speaker. "Hey, remember when you were a rookie and your partner made you pose those Christmas deer humping? What neighborhood was that?" He says the name of my subdivision and says "The house in the corner... why?"
She starts crying with laughter as my jaw hits the floor.
It was her cop husband that had pulled that prank. All these years, I had assumed it was some classmates pranking me, and it had been a former classmate, now police officer with a rookie hazing prank.
DearBurt@reddit
daggomit@reddit
The humping deer is overplayed. A friend of mine hangs two Christmas ornaments (the balls) from their back side. Great sense of humor in that guy.
blacktrufflesheep@reddit
🤣🤣🤣
But did he give out those free Jr. Frosty coupons at Halloween?
kitterkatty@reddit
They used to have salads and baked potatoes too.
canisdirusarctos@reddit
They completely ruined Wendy's in a cost-cutting effort after he died. The only reason it was good for so long was that nobody could change it as long as Dave was alive.
Carl's had a similar downfall.
wannabesurfer@reddit
Carls was a whole other level of fast food thru the 90s. When they introduced the $5 burger, it was pretty great but I feel like their regular burgers went downhill after that. Then their $5 burger turned into a $12 burger and the quality was basically Burger King. Speaking of Burger King, that was also insane. Their breakfast was on a different level too. The crossoinwich or whatever was the best fast food breakfast hands down. Now I can’t even stomach it
odin_the_wiggler@reddit
A Famous Star sounds awesome right about now.
daveindo@reddit
A super star with western rings and no pickles please.
slayingadah@reddit
Don't bother me. I'm eating.
Sharpshooter188@reddit
Omg the 5 dollar big burger meal was my treat for the week when I was unemployed. Lol
Taco_party1984@reddit
I remember the spicy chicken sandwich have much better flavor in the 90’s, possible bigger and real chicken. But I could be wrong. Now it’s like elementary school cafeteria food.
plantverdant@reddit
I tried getting French toast sticks several years ago and it was not the same.
SuddenSeasons@reddit
My mom likes it and gets 25% off and I really do like the burgers. They converted me to a mustard on burger guy tbh. It's nothing... special but it's a decent enough quick grab.
plantverdant@reddit
I still love the whopper Jr!
Fonzgarten@reddit
Those little round hash browns are glorious though. Haven’t had the croissant in a while…now I’m sad.
Heinz37_sauce@reddit
The Kentucky Fried Chicken of my childhood was much tastier, too. Something about the Colonel himself still being alive.
corduroy@reddit
Cost cutting definitely ruined Wendy's but the bigger issue, IMHO, is the terrible quality of food in general. They either pick vegetables and fruits too early, have them sit in trucks for way to long so they can get the "spoiled" food cheaper and it just tastes terrible. I forgot how flavorful tomatoes could be until I was overseas and had a salad. Like, the tomatoes here taste like water bags with a hint of tomato.
oclafloptson@reddit
Your issue is with the cultivar. Bigger is not always better. Our system rewards oversized fruits with no incentive for quality
keithrc@reddit
Big, pretty, long shelf life. Note that "tastes good" appears nowhere on the list of desirable qualities.
secretsnowdream@reddit
I've heard the best tasting tomatoes are heirloom varieties bred for flavor, not for size.
medievalkitty2@reddit
You cannot get a good tomato here anymore. They are all varying degrees of flavorless and mealy.
bob256k@reddit
Best tomato I’ve ever had was at a winery, the owner made me a sandwich with fresh tomatoes from the garden
allthesamejacketl@reddit
Eat them in season, from a farmer if you can.
medievalkitty2@reddit
Or if you’re in an apartment / don’t have a backyard, aerogrow. There’s no place in our place where the cats won’t completely mess with it. But one day. Tomatoes, lettuce, & herbs.
allthesamejacketl@reddit
I have my seedlings set up in an old dog kennel to protect them from cat :)
medievalkitty2@reddit
😃!! I happen to have a dog kennel! Pkg what a great idea thank you!!
allthesamejacketl@reddit
Yay, happy to help :)
secretsnowdream@reddit
Too bad Dave died too soon. I wish that man could have lived to be 100. He really cared about the customers and quality of.
bobrosserman@reddit
Damn I never thought about Wendy's going so downhill after Dave died but that makes so much sense.
nostradilmus@reddit
Carl the Third really screwed things up.
thejaytheory@reddit
Him and Hardeez Nuts
Drachen1065@reddit
Half the ones where I live are closed.
The food was so hit or miss the last few times i was there. Not really missing it wither.
Mean_Median_0201@reddit
I used to really like Carl's but it felt like the prices kept going up beyond the competition and the quality just dropping.
EggieRowe@reddit
The Monterrey Bacon Ranch chicken and the OG fries in the yellow box was peak Wendy’s.
beetlejuicemayor@reddit
It sure was. I remember a chicken pita sandwich that I can’t get out of my mind.
idog99@reddit
I worked at Wendy's from 92 to 98.
We made pretty much everything in-house. We did all of our own prep. We did our own bacon, we shaped our own patties... Everything was made to order.
We toasted every bun, made every salad, cut every tomato.
They used to have those awesome Kaiser rolls for the classic burgers.
Ai2Foom@reddit
That was when Dave was still in charge I believe…Wendy’s is just as shit tier trash 🗑️ as every other fast food establishment now
dezmd@reddit
Vanilla frosties...
https://i.redd.it/o7cjpphfijse1.gif
thejaytheory@reddit
slayingadah@reddit
When they introduced a different flavor for the frosty, that was the beginning of the end. There is no other flavor besides chocolate. I refuse to acknowledge the interloper.
LeafyCandy@reddit
That time period was when Wendy's was at its best, imo.
ant-master@reddit
Yep. Back when everything was yellow and they had the solarium and the super bar. I have so many fond memories of going there with my mom, me eating a cheeseburger kids meal and my mom getting the super bar. She'd sneak me some chips and cheese sauce and some chocolate pudding. I miss it.
analogthought@reddit
I worked there for a short time in 97 and was stuck on the salad bar and all I remember was being instructed to make the garlic bread/buns on a coffee burner hot plate and if the beans dried out to just “add more water” rather than change or refill them. Was not surprised when it went away.
thejaytheory@reddit
Those chicken nuggets slapped too. I'm sure they still do but back then, whew.
theatredork@reddit
Came here to sing the glory of the spicy chicken sandwich, old school fries, and frostie combo. It was so good that I STILL order a spicy chicken every time I go to Wendy's in case it has returned. It has not.
TimeSpiralNemesis@reddit
I recently said that I always thought that Wendy's had the best fried chicken in the break room at work and several of the younger people looked at me like I had five heads.
They don't know what they missed lol.
MardelMare@reddit
Oh the young’ns try to get me into Chik-Fil-A and they can’t believe I’m not obsessed with it. I’m like bruh don’t even try me till you’ve had a Wendy’s spicy chicken sandwich. Hands down best fast food chicken out there. I tried a CFA spicy chicken one time and could only eat half of it before I just had to throw it out.
HaliBUTTsteak@reddit
Chick-Fil-A is way overrated. Old Wendy’s spicy chicken sandwich had that recipe on lock for years. It’s still pretty good, but it used to be better.
Chick-fil-A_spellbot@reddit
It looks as though you may have spelled "Chick-fil-A" incorrectly. No worries, it happens to the best of us!
warm_sweater@reddit
We can spell it bigot chicken if you’d rather?
elmoosh@reddit
That’s how I spell it!
YaThinkYerSlickDoYa@reddit
Bad bot
espressocycle@reddit
The biscuits were ridiculously good.
padotim@reddit
My wife's grandparents went to Wendy's every day. Like literally every day for lunch for like 5+ years. Not sure, but I think she said they ordered the same thing every time too. She showed me a newspaper clipping of a story the local newspaper wrote on them. Weird thing is, they weren't even fat people. I think this was all they ate, one meal a day every day, at Wendy's.
I was blown away, like what the fuck is wrong with these people? She just shrugged it off like it was no big deal. They died before we got together, but I have so many questions about how that even happens. Guess I'll never know.
wherewulf23@reddit
I lived in Columbus which was a test market for them and a couple times a year they’d release a Cheddar Bacon Mushroom Melt which was so damn good it had no business being served at a fast food joint.
meagainpansy@reddit
I knew a lot of people in the 90s and 00s who would only eat fast food from Wendy's.
elmoosh@reddit
You knew my grandmother! Seriously, she was like, “They don’t have soft-serve. They INVENTED the Frosty.” It was adorable.
meagainpansy@reddit
My grandfather used to tell me about Ole' Dave and his daughter Wendy. He thought they just lived somewhere down the street in his small farming town in rural Mississippi. We would go on road trips, and he would see a Wendy's sign and start talking about how Dave and Wendy are doing well for themselves. He didn't seem to get the concept of a nationwide chain. It was also adorable.
elmoosh@reddit
That is so sweet.
RGVHound@reddit
Like a lot of things on this sub, the quality of the 90s fast food was way, way better than the 80s, in spite of what our nostalgia tells us.
Any_Assumption_1873@reddit
Same with their fish sandwiches -- everything now is merely a shadow of what they used to serve, not to mention way cheaper.
I saw $6 for 6 inches at Subway and i thought did they think that everyone would forget about "Five Dollar Foot Long Song"..."Any Any Any Any..."
Nothing is the same and it is sad.
Totallynotatworknow@reddit
The JBC was twice the size it is now for half the price.
I have Wendy's 6 blocks away that I frequent... frequently.
Goddamn I miss the good old days.
what_the_purple_fuck@reddit
my first office job, two or three times a week I would get two junior bacon cheeseburgers and an order of cheese fries for lunch for maybe $4. I put on so much weight and I regret nothing, because every bite was an absolute delight.
broadwayallday@reddit
Monterey ranch chicken sandwich 🤌
RoanAlbatross@reddit
It has a metallic taste to it now and it’s bothered me for like 20 years
No-Cartographer-476@reddit
Dont know about the food but I miss the sun room!
Wendy-Windbag@reddit
I used to really enjoy Wendy's burgers, thought they were some of the best for fast food prices. I hadn't had one in a few years, so just last week I decided to treat myself to a Baconator. It was so processed, dry and bland. It wasn't even loaded with two layers of thick bacon strips anymore, just some pieces of what looks like the precooked stuff you might pick up in a package. It was so disappointing. The surge enshitification since COVID is very real.
Gian_Luck_Pickerd@reddit
The salad pitas tho. The Greek one was the only thing I ate at Wendy's for a while
DeliciousExits@reddit
I was just talking about this! Every day for lunch. It was the best!
FirefliesEverywhere@reddit
I still dream about the pita wraps.
CorgiMonsoon@reddit
We had a Wendy’s across the street from my high school and it was the only “off campus” option we were allowed to use for lunch if we didn’t want the cafeteria food or to buy from the hot dog cart guy who was allowed on our mall area. I loved those pita wraps, though the chicken caesar was my go to. The baked potatoes with sour cream and chili were also a great option
RickHuf@reddit
Monterey Ranch Chicken Sandwich
It was the absolute pinnacle of 90s Wendy's. I mean, their stuff was always better to begin with but that chicken sandwich was out of control.
AllieShoe@reddit
The salad bar!!
gpo321@reddit
Yellow Biggie servings, an amazing $1 menu, and sun rooms! It was the spot.
illwill79@reddit
Fuck yes.
And to the OP question, in general fast food was absolutely 'better'. Because they used ingredients that were worse for you, but tasted better (look into mcd's fries) and also didn't skimp as much.
create3_14@reddit
Their salad bar
Afilador2112@reddit
As a kid would eat at the original location (it was across the street from a science museum). The beef back then was soooooo much better than the small, compressed, gritty, saw dusty stuff they have now.
Horizontal_Bob@reddit
90’s Wendy’s had nothing on 80’s Wendy’s
Yellow biggie size Wendy’s was legit but the OG Dave was still running Wendy’s in the 80’s was next level
Danvers and Wendy’s in the 80’s was the perfect fast food burger experience
throw20190820202020@reddit
Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers were amazing, the fact that they were a dollar was unreal.
Automatic-Raspberry3@reddit
We had a Wendy’s with the skylights and a taco bar! Was it fancy no but it was cheap and decent. That’s what kills me about fast food. Taco Bell back in the day 10 bucks was a stoner feast now it’s barely a couple tacos
TonyGunks_sportsbook@reddit
I rarely eat fast food anymore, but i had one today because I was on the road and in a hurry. Such a letdown. Just a small piece of chicken with one piece of lettuce and mayo on a soggy bun. I used to love them.
SockGnome@reddit
The spicy chicken sandwich was once top tier, it was like a fucking drug. The last couple I’ve tried just missed the mark completely.
CorgiMonsoon@reddit
Went to one for the first time in forever about a month ago while doing a drive from Fort Myers back to NYC. It was the most disappointing experience I’ve had at a fast food place in recent memory. Ordered in the drive through, they had me pull away and park in front after paying because it would be a few minutes. Took about ten minutes to get my order and the burger was dry and cold, the fries were only a touch warmer and also tasted stale, and they didn’t even include any ketchup packets. Sadly I was already back at my hotel when I found this and just didn’t have the energy to go back and complain
Mr8BitX@reddit
I just went to Wendy's and had a double cheeseburger for the first time in maybe 10 to 15 years. I never knew that you could make a cheeseburger be so greasy and dry at the same time.
OtherAcctWasBanned11@reddit
I still think about how good the 90s Monterrey Ranch Chicken Sandwich from Wendy’s was. They’ve brought it back occasionally but it’s just not the same.
cheetah-21@reddit
Good salads. Chili
6kred@reddit
It was Sooo much better back then !!
CheezeLoueez08@reddit
It really was
velouria-wilder@reddit
Super Bar
Peelboy@reddit
Yes, it’s been engineered into the crap we see today.
TurdFerguson2OOO@reddit
Steak and shake used to be awesome. Glassware, waitresses, good food - it was something different, a treat, a throw back to a different era, and kinda special. Now, it's the same as everything else - digitized, impersonal, disposable, and gross.
atomsk404@reddit
You have open ones? Every single one I knew of closed.
TurdFerguson2OOO@reddit
There is one near me. The milkshakes are still good, but the rest pretty bad. The no longer have the pepper sauce on the tables either.
thejaytheory@reddit
I remember going to them a lot in college (shout out Mercer!) and really enjoyed those experiences and the food!
thewayshesaidLA@reddit
Steak ‘n Shake was our late night hangout growing up. It’s so bad now.
TurdFerguson2OOO@reddit
Ours too. It was our rendezvous point after bars/parties. Felt for those waitresses having to deal with drunkards.
ContactHonest2406@reddit
Idk man, it’s still good as hell to me.
YinzaJagoff@reddit
I worked at one 25 years ago.
Yes I had to wear a bow tie and the job sucked but the chicken fingers were fire. Also, the lime freeze drink they had was very very tasty.
Christie318@reddit
Absolutely. The quality has gone down and the prices have gone up.
mrinkyface@reddit
Pizza Hut is a prime example, they were able to contest with the best Chicago pizza places and use to be an awesome place to eat.
Soundwave234@reddit
While you could argue that yes they were better than they are now, it was still considered not good food. So yeah.
___-_____-__@reddit
I feel offended that you think we are 50 years old.
LeafyCandy@reddit
I'm almost 50, but I'm also riding y'all coattails because my generation is fucking annoying as hell and I can't relate anymore.
Zeverian@reddit
I'm 50 as well. If you recall, the rest of our generation sucked when we were young. They still suck. I am never surprised when they do stupid/evil shit.
LeafyCandy@reddit
I used to think we were at least a little cool. Now I realize we're just a bunch of crybabies.
Traditional_Entry183@reddit
I'll be 48 this year. It's not far off.
___-_____-__@reddit
We are holding strong brother. We are not 50 yet.
Traditional_Entry183@reddit
I made the observation years back that a variety of people I knew went into the start of their 40s not much different than their early 30s, but that they came out the other end at 50 as old people, both physically and mentally. I vowed not to do that, and I am not. I am in better shape at 47 than I was at 27, and I'm as progressive as I was as a teenager.
craigzilla1@reddit
Way to hold the line. Working on being as good/better shape. Also I think my values have gotten better. More empathetic, not as angry. Before it was trying to nosedive into chaos, now I'm just trying to be better for myself and anyone I encounter. For the youth I work with when I am explaining things to them (I work in a semi-tech related field), I tell them how it's done now. I then explain how everything got here from my experience and why some of the practices were changed. I also let them know if I ever sound like a "back in my day" person, let me know. I always hated when someone would lecture me on "we did it this way back when you were in diapers". I realized when I hit 40 the world wasn't mine to shape but to influence and guide the people who were shaping it now. Let them know my insights from what I learned from my mistakes. They have different factors they are dealing with that are completely different from mine at their age. All I can offer is some insight versus the "you are wrong". Old man ranting done.
Spamberguesa@reddit
I've never been able to stand people who say "back in my day", but I wasn't always able to articulate why. It wasn't until I was an adult that I could say, "Yeah, well, the world of 'your day' doesn't exist anymore, so how you did things then is irrelevant."
I'm sort of in better shape than I was in my 20s -- I've lifted weights and done cardio since my 30s, but now that I'm in my 40s, I injure myself a lot easier (I recently got over a sciatica flare-up just in time to get plantar fasciitis for the first time in my life, but I know part of that has to be related to having Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, not just age).
___-_____-__@reddit
This is a thing a lot of us need to hear!
elmoosh@reddit
I just turned 48. We’re there.
elektroholunder@reddit
It confuses me that I was born in the same year as old people.
paul-cus@reddit
Right? And how did they find this sub anyway.
___-_____-__@reddit
I feel like OP thinks we are Cool boomers or some shit. who knows.
Dangerous-Jury9890@reddit
“Cool boomers” made my brain hurt…. 😂🤣😂
remoteworker9@reddit
OP said 40-50 and that’s us.
___-_____-__@reddit
We are not 50. we are 29 still..
throwawaycpa1980@reddit
Forever 29
SharMarali@reddit
Maybe they have us mixed up with r/GenerationJones?
Starbreiz@reddit
That would be GenX. I'm a 47 yr old Xennial, I identified with GenX before Xennial was a thing. Fun fact, a girl in my college coined the term.
SharMarali@reddit
I took “people who have been able to see it for 40-50 years” to mean people over 50 who are old enough to remember 40-50 years old. Maybe I’m the only one who took it that way, I don’t know.
Studds_@reddit
Isn’t 50 too young for Jonesies? Late 50s maybe. 1975 was 50 years ago & that’s solid genX
SharMarali@reddit
Yeah but OP said “people who have been able to see it for 40-50 years,” which I took as meaning people over 50 who are old enough to remember it. But I’m not sure if that’s how they intended it.
VaselineHabits@reddit
My dad is Gen Jones, born in 58' and my mom might be the last of that Gen in 62'. All Boomers should atleast be in their 60s by now, Gen X in the 50s, maybe early 60s
Familiar_Ebb_7100@reddit
McDonald's French fries. They were ALWAYS right. You didn't have to hope they weren't wet.
ZombiesAtKendall@reddit
Quality has absolutely declined, at least on the lower end of things. KFC used to be great, now they can’t even get chicken right. Bob Evans is garbage now. Steak and Shake used to be great.
Now many of these places are almost inedible to me. Every now and then I will try again while traveling or something, and it’s gross.
It’s not just that it went from okay to bad, or good to okay, it went from good to bad.
scots@reddit
McDonalds used to fry their french fries and apple pies in beef tallow, and they were fucking glorious.
Old_Artist3624@reddit
Without question and for a lot less money
picklepuss13@reddit
Definitely, too much cost cutting.
Careful-Use-4913@reddit
Yes
The_Savvy_Seneschal@reddit
The 90’s were kind of a golden age of fast and quick food service. I used to work at a company in the late 90’s - early aughts, in a major US city in a “nice” part of town. There was a Chinese restaurant nearby that served lunch for a lot of the employees there; it was $4.95 for a full lunch special - think pepper steak, sweet and sour chicken, etc - it came with hot tea, an egg roll and hot soup. Leaving a customary 15% tip at the time meant a full lunch was $5.70. The food quality was amazing.
Today? Let’s just say I do most of my cooking at home.
kitterkatty@reddit
Yes McDonald’s in the early 2000s pre 2010 had wraps, yogurt with granola, salads, it was probably peak and that’s when I was working and pregnant so I got those little yogurts every morning. Really nice. Then just kept the containers and made my own.
dadelibby@reddit
i worked the day shift at taco bell in the 90s. my morning tasks were cutting the big blocks of locally sourced cheese with piano wire and running them through the shredder. i cored locally grown tomatoes by hand. i chopped fresh cilantro for the pico sauce. the only frozen items were the meats and the soft shells. we fried the nacho chips and chalupas to order ffs! i can barely eat there anymore... everything is so bland and ugly and wilted.
Minimum_Elk6542@reddit
Yes, many places have gone down in quality severely. I'm not sure how they manage to stay open.
Moist_Rule9623@reddit
Not meals per se, but since I live at the epicenter of Dunkin Donuts (I live like 15 minutes away from the original 1950 whatever DD’s location) I can tell you
1) their coffee is ASS now compared to thirty years ago
2) their donuts are less than half the size they used to be, and
3) their prices are through the roof. A small Dunkin’ Donuts coffee has appreciated in price probably more than a single family starter home over the same time period
lb_is_not_la@reddit
My mom would complain in the late 80s and 90s about how the whopper and quarter pounder with cheese was nasty and not as good as it was in the late 60s and 70s.
So when I think the same way I’m not surprised because it definitely is going down in quality.
FlopShanoobie@reddit
Maybe it's just the one by my house, but I actually think McDonald's has improved in recent years. The QPC is a legit good burger.
Superdad75@reddit
Better quality and lower prices.
research_badger@reddit
Yes
Vox_Mortem@reddit
The only reason anyone ever ate at McDonald's was because it was cheap, so the food being kind of shitty was ok. Now the food is worse and combo meals are like $15. I haven't eaten there in probably 3 years. All the fast food places have suffered a loss of quality and high prices, honestly. So I just opt to eat at small local places instead, if I can get a whole plate of food at a Chinese restaurant for $11.99, why would I spend $15 at McDonald's?
Beradicus69@reddit
In the 90's doing family road trips. We had a family of 6. And McDonald's cost 30/40 for 6 people. That's 6 different combo meals.
Today it's roughly 20 for one person. So that 30/40. Just turned into 120. And the quality went downhill.
I'd rather order local than support McDonald's.
poofyhairguy@reddit
McDonalds basically requires you to use their app now to make it affordable. I take my son there sometimes during the summer when it’s too hot to play outside (our local one still has an indoor playground) and I can make a $25 meal like $16 by using the app and playing games with its cooldown timer.
If you just go up to the counter or drive thru and order without the app boomer-style you are basically subsidizing people who use their app. It’s clear they want to stop paying people to run the register (which when I worked there in the early 00s was the most prestigious job they had).
thejaytheory@reddit
Bingo, the only time I ever eat at McD's is when I'm using the app.
gummi-demilo@reddit
Seriously, I can get a Thai lunch special down the street for $11.25 with a massive quantity of noodles. Last time I had McD’s it was almost $20 for a meal.
ContactHonest2406@reddit
Where? It’s like $7 for me lol
gummi-demilo@reddit
NYC
MyNameIsDaveToo@reddit
I can get a much tastier frozen meal from wegmans for $6. It's ready in 5 minutes. Actual fast food
orthomonas@reddit
Exactly that. You don't even have to compromise on food category. I walked into a burger king a few days ago and realized the meal was more expensive than the independent 'artisanal' chicken and burger place down the road.
jasonrubik@reddit
What are you getting that's $15 ? Just get two or three things from the value menu or the $5 combo and you're all set
Ghee_Guys@reddit
I believe he indicated he was getting a combo meal
Key_Zucchini9764@reddit
It’s gone down hill across the board but Taco Bell has taken the worst hit. Back in the day Taco Bell was absolutely delicious. I would go there WAY too often, like three times a week.
It’s been a couple of years since I’ve even tried it because it is absolute garbage now.
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
It was always garbage but it used to taste better and be a fuckton cheaper.
DanishWonder@reddit
I can't stand fast food any more. It's always a long wait to get my food now and it's always cold. Combination of corporate moving towards shitty food/cheap ingredients and front line workers being underpaid and not giving a shit.
secretsnowdream@reddit
It just seems like all fast food is stuffed with fillers to the max now. This compared to how places like Wendy's and even McDonald's tasted better, more real, and more filling back in the 90s and early 2000s.
I can't prove anything but I'm 42 and my sister who's a year and a half younger than me agrees.
1kpointsoflight@reddit
No. I worked in McDonalds in the 80s. It was the same crap different decade
Sharpshooter188@reddit
Tbh, Im not completely sure. They were definitely different in the before times. With more being served in general (I never have bag fries left anymore 🥺.)
Fun-Potential-342@reddit
I’m not really sure if the food was better quality or my stomach was young enough to handle it. Either way I rarely eat fast food now. Most of it taste yucky to me now. Especially McDonald’s. Wendy’s on occasion is ok.
blacktrufflesheep@reddit
Dunkin Donuts were so much better when Fred the Baker made them.
On Sundays, after delivering for our paper route, our mom sent us to Dunkin Donuts to pick out a dozen. My brother's favorites were blueberry filled or lemon filled. I liked chocolate frosted, apple filled, and jelly. Then we'd go home to eat donuts and read Calvin and Hobbes.
Threetimes3@reddit
Dunkin is complete trash at this point. Donuts haven't been made in store for years.
elphaba00@reddit
I do not get the appeal of Dunkin. They always taste stale to me. I will always pick Krispy Kreme over Dunkin.
Threetimes3@reddit
I don't know when you tried them, but back in the 80s/early 90s they were fried in shop. They were excellent. Nowadays they are shipped frozen from some factory to each location, so of course they suck, and have sucked for over 20 years.
FinishingMyCoffee1@reddit
I did the Sunday walk to Dunkin too! There was a see thru window to the kitchen to see the doughnuts being made. Now they arrive on a truck!
Dangerous-Jury9890@reddit
You just unlocked forgotten memories!! Thank you!!!
blacktrufflesheep@reddit
Time to make the donuts! 🍩
Sithstress1@reddit
💯 fast food used to be a treat my parents and grandparents would treat us to. Now it’s just nasty food.
Grinzy@reddit
Remember when Jack in the Box made kangaroo burgers?
VeritasAgape@reddit
Yes, Pizza Hut used to make their sauce and lots of their food fresh in the restaurant itself from scratch. That makes it so much better. Wendy's was so much better. As the founder of it said, he had square burgers to make a point that they didn't cut corners. Some of the things were made fresh there. McDonald's pies were better but besides that I don't notice much difference with them.
BrainFartTheFirst@reddit
Yes with the exception of McDonald's which was generally higher quality in the past but did experiment with "pink slime" for a while and no longer does.
don51181@reddit
BK & McD used to be much better. The food quality and service are so much better. I don't even go to those two because they don't care when they make the food.
Panera in my area has been pretty good. We go there often for a quick easy meal. Plus we don't feel as bad mentally or physically after eating it.
LtPowers@reddit
Panera's going downhill too.
LOTRugoingtothemall@reddit
Panera is like hospital food
LtPowers@reddit
To be fair, hospital food is better now than it was 50 years ago.
WiWook@reddit
McDonald's from personal experience: 1990 they made the bicuits, fresh, in store. 1991, they pre-made the biscuits and shipped them to stores frozen. They were baked from frozen in store. Now?
The burgers. 1990 Came frozen. however many on grill. After a few seconds, press down with a metal disk. Wait then flip. The spatulas actually had to be sharpened to cut the burgers from the grill. 1991, new grills. cooked from both sides at the same time.
Once the meat was cooked, assembled into sandwiches and put in a heated holding bin. Little metal dividers indicated the time. Burgers had 10 minutes - then tossed. Now, the meat is cooked and set in little trays allowed to sit for 30-60 minutes. Sandwich assembled and heated (microwaved/convection cooked) at order. Managers had to balance waste vs service speed.
Drive thru was 30 seconds from order completion to service at peak times, 1 minute when slower. In store was 1 minute / 2 minutes.
Everyone knows the saga of their fries and the change from beef tallow. When I trained, the video included the directions for the stores that still used frozen raw potatoes rather than the frozen par-cooked ones from Simplot. (They were cooked twice at different temps).
I don't think the meat has changed, so much as the procedures. A fresh made burger sitting assembled for 2-5 minutes vs. a patty sitting in a holding oven for 30 mins to an hour. Fresh biscuits or factory made.
I am sure there are other ingrdient changes as well, but these are some of the biggest that affected the taste, quality, and speed at one chain. I wonder if someone came in and went back to the old procedures, where an order could be filled in less than a minute and things were hot would it reassure the dominance that was once Maccas?
FaluninumAlcon@reddit
I rarely eat fast food now and usually regret it.
AnalMohawk@reddit
Roy Rogers with their fixins bar was a GLORIOUS night out.
Jonestown_Juice@reddit
I think McDonald's has been pretty consistent (not great but they were never great). They haven't really changed much. They've just gotten more expensive. Oh they did change their fry oil but I still think their fries are pretty decent.
Everywhere else has gotten noticeably worse. KFC and Jack in the Box being particularly egregious.
forprojectsetc@reddit
KFC is straight up gross now.
We had it last summer for the first time in decades. The chicken was basically a salt lick.
Horror_Garbage_9888@reddit
Ironically KFC is fire in other countries. IDK why they let the US branch go downhill so much.
thejaytheory@reddit
One word: $$$
Shejidan@reddit
It’s really sad that one of the reasons I want to go to Japan is to eat kfc there. And Denny’s. And I want to see what we’re missing when it comes to 7-11…why can’t we have nice things?
Horror_Garbage_9888@reddit
Got to Lawsons!
CheezeLoueez08@reddit
Canada’s too.
ColdBrewMoon@reddit
Competition from better local chains that aren't global conglomerates.
altiuscitiusfortius@reddit
Other countries have government regulations on food so they can't cut asmany corners.
Jonestown_Juice@reddit
I actually watched a video about this!
elphaba00@reddit
I went to our local KFC a year or two ago because my teenager wanted it. It was $50 for three meals, and it wasn't even that good. (Our local grocery store made a better fried chicken than them.) I swore I'd never go back. Not soon after, that location and a few others around us closed. I guess I wasn't the only one making that promise.
Wendy-Windbag@reddit
This is how I feel about Roy Rogers food: inedible because it'd probably cause sodium toxicity. I grew up where salt was the only "spice" and one of my favorite regional dishes was salt potatoes. Little potatoes brined to shit in so much salt it'd ruin a pot. But Roy Rogers food tastes like I'm just crunching away at a brick of salt lick about to go blind.
geoduckSF@reddit
I think this is because of their attempt at being healthier. They fry the chicken in healthier oils and it makes for a shittier fried chicken. They’re afraid to even call themselves Kentucky Fried Chicken.
yayoffbalance@reddit
Wasn't it like7 years or so ago they created that double down chicken sandwich, where fried chicken was also the bun?
forprojectsetc@reddit
Try 15 years ago 😭
yayoffbalance@reddit
i refuse to believe that! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
forprojectsetc@reddit
My complaint wasn’t so much the crispiness etc. it was just so salty I couldn’t taste much of anything else, and I like a good bit of salt in my food.
The oil might be healthier, but the salt will give you instant fatal hypertension.
CheezeLoueez08@reddit
Omg yes!!! My husband’s brother ordered some at one point last year and they complained about it. I thought they were being fussy. A little bit later they ordered again when I was there and holy eff!!!!! It was inedible!!! Not exaggerating. And I’m in Canada. I’m assuming you’re in the states? Either way we definitely ordered from different places. Same issue.
forprojectsetc@reddit
Harlan Sanders must be loading his guns in the afterlife.
Apparently he went on a legal warpath later in life when KFC altered his recipe after he was bought out of the company.
CheezeLoueez08@reddit
I heard about that. Must’ve been so frustrating.
Jonestown_Juice@reddit
Absolutely. It's inedible. So soggy and greasy.
gitismatt@reddit
i'll murder a child for my two tacos for $0.99 though. they're gross and messy but also delicious.
night-swimming704@reddit
McDonald’s used to be just as much about the experience as it was the food. Happy meals, playgrounds, birthday parties, etc. Now it’s all shit
DripDrop777@reddit
McD has def gone downhill. Big time.
NotTroy@reddit
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Pizza Hut the Delicious? I thought not, it's not a story the Pizza Chains would tell you. It's a Xennial legend.
thejaytheory@reddit
I Googled that but couldn't find anything about it haha
MyckKabongo@reddit
I was waiting for someone to say Pizza Hut. Ate a lot of it in the 90s and early 2000s. Every now and again I indulge a craving for it and it's just not the same. They've slowly cut corners on everything over the yars but it's most noticeable in the cheese and pan crust.
captainbrickle@reddit
Remember the occasional McDonald's chicken nugget vein ? 😂
gummi-demilo@reddit
That’s when I quit eating them. I was seven and thoroughly grossed out.
thejaytheory@reddit
I feel you so much, I ate them for a while afterwards, but was always apprehensive and ate them slowly, trying to avoid those part. So glad when they switched to white meat.
thejaytheory@reddit
Eww, I liked their nuggets, but always hated they were dark meat. So glad when they switched to white meat.
rifunseeker@reddit
I personally really enjoyed the dark meat/fat nuggets that would slip in there.
Shejidan@reddit
Those were the best fucking thing! I think I’ve had nuggets twice since the switch and I’ve hated them each time. Meanwhile I used to get them all the time before.
orthomonas@reddit
I'm still angry at people who pushed for breast meat nuggets because dark meat was 'getting ripped off'. Fucking flavour haters.
Racacooonie@reddit
Or talon
BigTastyTumbo@reddit
For some reason when I read this a pterodactyl-like screech went through my head
Gia_Lavender@reddit
If they had dark meat chicken nuggets in heaven I’d be going to church
thatotherguy57@reddit
Late 80s/early 90s, McDonald’s was good, then it went down fast. I can’t comment on Burger King, I burned out on them in college. Sonic went down in quality severely during Covid. Rally’s/Checkers used to be good (the fries still are). Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr went to shit in the early 2000s, which was tragic, they had AMAZING breakfast back then. The only fast food I really get anymore is Whataburger, and it’s not as good as it was pre-Covid, but not bad, at least.
MyckKabongo@reddit
Sonic is a good call out. Used to have one of the better fast food burgers but had one earlier this year it was straight up gross.
sadisticamichaels@reddit
Fast casual kind of killed fast food quality.
Roklam@reddit
There's a local fast food place in CT (Duchess) that's kinda still holding the line.
They're still psuedo-diner.
Apprehensive-Cat-111@reddit
Pizza Hut was 1.5 million times better than it is now. Took me a long time to admit that it had in fact become trash because it used to be my absolute favorite.
elphaba00@reddit
My husband once said, "I really want Pizza Hut until I get it in the car." The craving is still strong, but the reality is that it's trash.
Vast-Hold6578@reddit
I remember back in the day when some fast food places had buffets. Lord how I miss the all you can eat buffet at Rax. It was sooo good
elphaba00@reddit
I keep telling my teen and preteen about the legend of Rax. They must think I'm crazy by now.
BigTastyTumbo@reddit
The Rax salad bar/buffet raised me and my brothers. The Uncle Alligator meal with the alligator plastic cup was incredible!
12 year old me always started my monstrosity of a meal the same way: got a bowl, put a ton of refried beans on the bottom, then a healthy layer of Spaghettio's on top of the beans, then came a ladel or two of nacho cheese sauce and finally about a dozen jalepeño rings to top it off. I literally did this every time.
Ineedavodka2019@reddit
Panera used to be great until they sold to whomever owns them now.
elphaba00@reddit
I once read a description of Panera as hospital food, and it pretty much summed them up.
cthulhu_on_my_lawn@reddit
Yeah Panera has definitely gone downhill. Used to be they had a few things and did them well. Now they sell a bunch of nonsense and none of it is good.
Smurfblossom@reddit
I enjoy their stuff sold in grocery stores so much more than the overpriced stuff in their restaurants now.
Independent_Win_7984@reddit
Not sure what you base that assessment on. Maybe some kind of short-term fluctuation in your local offerings. As someone who's first SS card was required for a McDonalds job in 1970, I can testify to the steady increase in complicated menu offerings, catering to indulgent customers and fueled by the proliferation of competition. In the day, Ray Croc's strict, systemic approach was based on economy and efficiency. As a "grillman" I was responsible for producing thousands of identical burger patties, 12 or 24 at a time, based on the number of customers we could see coming into the parking lot (no drive-thru yet). That one patty was in every sandwich we offered, until the filet-of-fish showed up. You could splurge, and add cheese. I believe they tried a short-lived hot dog for a bit.... Compare that to any current "fast food" menu; you're certainly paying exorbitant prices, but you can't say you don't have more choices.
LoganND@reddit
I dunno if it counts as fast food but I used to like going to pei wei for lunch sometimes because it was better than a greasy burger.
chrisdecaf@reddit
Sonic seems to be an outlier. The food doesn't seem to have changed much since I was a teenager. The only gripe I have is that certain menu items are no longer available.
OsoRetro@reddit
Burger King and Jack in the Box used to be FIRE. Growing up the corporate offices for both were in my city and this resulted in awesome quality at the locations nearby.
Then I moved out of state and the locations out of immediate corporate reach are absolute shit shows.
Maybe it’s something that’s more attributed to time than location, but when I visit home I swear it’s 100x better.
misterlakatos@reddit
I miss Chicken Littles. You know, those delicious little chicken sandwiches from Kentucky Fried Chicken. I was an extremely picky eater and that's all I ever wanted to eat.
bigthemat@reddit
I was on the road last night and decided to stop at Carls Jr. In college we’d go there all the time and the dbl western was like the best burger. Maybe it was that location but many good memories eating tasty burgers.
My meal last night, terrible. Maybe it’s all my meds now that I’m an old fat guy, or this location, but it was such a disappointment.
RedneckAngel83@reddit
Yes.
Dairy Queen (in 1998 until about 2004-ish) hand breaded their own chicken tenders and they were fucking amazing. Their Blitz Burgers were just delightful chills.
Then they changed their Blitzes to Grill Burgers and they were gross. Their prebreaded chicken is flavorless and pretty disgusting too.
pastelpixelator@reddit
I've thought about this before, and I'm not sure that the quality was better, but I think we might tend to recall it as better because of nostalgia of the time. Maybe.
ForceGhost47@reddit
It’s done more than decline a bit. Fast food tastes like absolute shit now. And it’s also expensive 👎🏼
lemmaaz@reddit
Nah you just need to get away from chain joints
zerocoolforschool@reddit
What fast food isn’t a chain joint?
LtPowers@reddit
Street food. Food trucks.
zerocoolforschool@reddit
I would put that in a different category. That’s basically restaurant food.
LtPowers@reddit
Street food? Really?
zerocoolforschool@reddit
I mean…. One of the carts near my work is from a restaurant and serves the exact same food. So what would you call it? They’re basically a restaurant without brick and mortar.
thekurgan79@reddit
I was with you until "I mean...." Stop doing that
LtPowers@reddit
Well then that's not street food. Street food is hot dog stands and doner kebab carts.
If you consider those "a different category" than fast food, then you've defined "fast food" so narrowly that your assertion becomes a tautology.
LazarusDark@reddit
Most places in America (other than the basic taco truck or maybe the New York hot dog cart), the food truck food is more expensive than sit down restaurant food. I can't afford food truck prices compared to the local diner or wing place.
lemmaaz@reddit
Mom and pop shops
Myst21256@reddit
Private equity and corporate ownership has ruined pretty much everything
dbzmah@reddit
late decay capitalism baby!
Myst21256@reddit
Yep
GenghisConnieChung@reddit
And most of the time it’s not even really fast anymore.
Norgler@reddit
I think the quality was always sub par it just used to be so damn cheap.
I remember in the 90s people claimed taco bell meat was pretty much dog food. We still ate there but it was dirt cheap as well. I worked there when I was 16 and opening the bag of meat made me gag, the smell and steam that came out was awful. So I think it was actually always bad..
Exact_Friendship_502@reddit
I think what’s happening is that you’re growing up.
Our tastes change as we get older.
Charming_Jello9956@reddit
It's that & your taste buds change over time. I used to eat McDonalds, even in my 20s. Now 44, I can't stand them.
VoodooDonKnotts@reddit
Some went downhill harder than others. I feel like McDonalds is basically the same, but Burger King did something weird to their burgers and they are NOT the same as they used to be. Wendy's took a big hit imo in the last 10 years as well. The fries aren't nearly as good as they used to be and the chicken patties for the sandwiches all seem much thinner. I remember actually having to open my mouth wide to eat one, now I can basically nibble my way through the sandwich like a squirrel.
Illustrious_Profile6@reddit
In every single way they have all gotten worse in every way. Worse value, worse ingredients, portions it's not even close to what it was like.... Most of it really happened in the last 20 years but there was a start of decline in the late 90s.
Pizza hutt used to be a great sit down pizza you'd enjoy eating.. Wendy's used to actually high a juicy high quality burger with fresh toppings..
Taco Bell was the place to go for good value... It's shit now.
forgetfulsue@reddit
Duh. I mean no disrespect, but everything has gone down hill since we were kids. But I’m betting every generation says the same thing. I totally agree with you!
Danimal82724@reddit
The only thing that's held up, to me, is the Wendy's JBC. It's always been mid, but satisfying.
Parking-Cress-4661@reddit
When I first ate Taco bell in the mid Eighties it was good fast food and pretty affordable. Then around the mid nineties during the dog asking 'Yo Quiero Taco Bell?" it actually got really good. They introduced the Chalupa and Gordita which you could get with different sauces or something? But 5 years later they went for cheapest. And just kept letting the food get worse to keep it cheap.
pa18gr055@reddit
cheapest and the most addictive. it was really hard to kick the habit.
ColdBrewMoon@reddit
Taco Bell from the 80s is when they use to prep everything in house every day. The late 90s is when everyone decided to go all in on mass distribution centers where they process the lowest quality food with machines and box it then ship it out to the franchise locations. They use to even fry their own tortillas back then I think.
Express-Cow190@reddit
Yeah, there’s a small chain near where I live that did chili fries. The chili used to have plenty of ground beef, now it’s like a bean slurry with too much salt. Milkshakes there used to be so thick it made my jaw hurt using the straw.
pa18gr055@reddit
Hardee's used to have a fresh peach milkshake every spring that tasted like it was actually made out of ice cream and milk & it was definitely real peaches... nothing like the shakes today made out of a mix with questionable "fruit".
dreadthripper@reddit
my older sibling worked at Subway in the 90s. They used to cut a channel out of the middle of the bread to put everything in then put that piece back on top. it was pretty cool. the food was actually OK then. I guess years of $5 foot longs didn't help their quality.
Appropriate-Food1757@reddit
No, food is way better now across the board. Fast casual’s didn’t exist. Maybe some of the big players. Subway fucked their bread and made it so much worse. But then you have more thugs like Chick Fil A and In N Out.
So I will concede some of the places that have always been around may have made changes. Some dramatically so. Some for the better, more for the worse. But anyone who pines for the food of the 80’s or 90’s is a fool IMO. There are just tons of better options now across the board.
pinniped90@reddit
Chipotle in Denver in about 2000 was actually pretty good. I lived there and it was in our regular lunch rotation.
I thought Culver's was once pretty good for its price point, but now it's gone to super premium pricing and it just isn't worth it. It didn't get better or worse.
dan_in_hd@reddit
High quality meals? No, but the meals they served were of higher quality. To me it seems that since Covid everything has gone downhill in regard to this. . . Not a political take. Seems no-one cares anymore about quality or service 🤷🏻♂️
MyNameIsDaveToo@reddit
Food is a tough one. Demand is almost completely inelastic, since we literally can't live without it.
So it's one of the easiest targets out there; no matter how much they enshittify it, people will still have to buy it.
dbzmah@reddit
nah, it's been decades of cost cutting. I worked at Pizza Hut when they switched from fresh dough to frozen BS. Oddly, they did switch to veggies cut on site, which was a plus, for a while. then that went away.
BookkeeperButt@reddit
I think Covid and the pandemic broke a lot of people’s minds and we’re going to deal with the fallout from that for a while.
craigzilla1@reddit
I think it's a path we cannot turn back from. Corporations see we will still buy it, just not in the numbers that justify the low prices. Also they look at it as "well we can't lower the price to below it was before". So the prices are set. No way they are going to lower them.
Bread-Like-A-Hole@reddit
Enshittification.
BillTheConqueror@reddit
As someone who is into being healthy now, I’m glad the quality is down hill. It makes actively avoiding them easier when the food is crap.
malibuklw@reddit
It used to be so much better.
McDonald’s used to have a broccoli cheddar soup that was my favorite thing coming home from winter outdoor sports.
And 100% Panera, which dropped so much so quickly that you can’t even pretend it’s because our memories are faulty. Used to be my favorite, and now I won’t eat there at all.
Coyote_Roadrunna@reddit
Subway used to be amazing. When you walked in you could immediately smell the strong aroma of bread.
People loved to dine in.
Now it's a place you want to get in and out of as quick as possible.
heresmytwopence@reddit
Not to get overly political, but the CEO-shareholder covenant demands that profit be continuously maximized. In roughly thirty years, we can be sure all sorts of corners have been cut.
TheRealCrustycabs@reddit
Old fart here....When I was young, my HS bestie worked at Roy Rogers for a time.
I went in one day, and he made me a roast beef sandwich that was so big, the warpper wouldn't close around it.
Just to be a dick, I sat in the restaurant and ate it in front of his manager. :D
SmellyFloralCouch@reddit
As I get older, a lot of this kind of thing feels like my own tastes improving and becoming more refined, combined with the inevitable "enshitification" that is brought about by corporations and their unending chase for quarterly profits.
That-Bluejay3533@reddit
They stopped using that delicious trans fat
HikeSkiHiphop@reddit
The enshitefication of America has left nothing untouched.
letseditthesadparts@reddit
I’ve have always felt it was more my palate has changed rather than it simply being food has declined. I mean I’ve noticed this in my own kids from 6 years old to 14. I’m sure quality has gone down, but if you still have the same tastes from 6 years old to 20 you probably haven’t really broadened your palate anyway.
Frosty_Cloud_2888@reddit
Yes thanks to inflation it’s all a race to the bottom.
RowdyRoddyPipeSmoker@reddit
yes 100%. Fast food used to actually taste good. It's crazy how downhill it's gone since the 80s/90s. Many places don't even taste the same, Wendy's used to have a very distinct taste that it just doesn't have anymore. McDonalds used to be legit good, stuff was fried fresh, man those fried pies...pizza hut used to be glorious, it's trash now. It's such a shame how shitty everything has gotten. Food in general just does not taste like it used to 20+ years ago. Our whole food chain has been fucked up by corporate greed. Meat doesn't taste as good, veggies don't taste as good, the whole world has been enshitified.
DooficusIdjit@reddit
Some did. KFC used to be pretty good.
NoTackle334@reddit
The only thing Big about the Big Mac is the Bread now and the Whopper tastes more like flame boiled instead of flame broiled. I avoid it all as much as I can but they keep popping up everywhere like pimples on a pubescent tween.
ZeroDSR@reddit
Yes?
Same reasons that fast fashion and similar affordable to all places have dropped to slop levels; decision makers increase revenue by decreasing cost through research-back acceptable levels of (low) quality.
A kneejerk response to fix this could be "forbid this! capitalism is le bad!".
(Under communism I am sure the quality would be much higher /s)
A perhaps more reasonable solution: reject the fast food.
You're the market. Demand better, supply will follow.
pina_koala@reddit
Once I read "fast food nation" I wasn't able to look at it all the same way anymore. But to your point yeah, there used to be more quality in some places but definitely less in others. The fact that you can get a not-awful salad at a lot of fast food places is mind-blowing to me.
wycca@reddit
Remember when Arby's used to have roast beef on a spit and slice it off? Now it's more akin to mcdonalds chicken nuggets.
jmerrilee@reddit
I miss the salad shakeups and the wraps at McDs.
pogulup@reddit
All chains have gotten shittier. Fast food, fast casual, all of them.
MotherofaPickle@reddit
I feel attacked, yet validated, that a non xennial is posting here.
Hey-buuuddy@reddit
Transfat made the difference you are all remembering.
Duckbites@reddit
This statement is far too low
jasonmoyer@reddit
It's always been garbage. I stopped eating it in my 20's when I realized I can make better food in less time for less money with a microwave and a high school diploma.
liltinyoranges@reddit
Yes
SlapHappyDude@reddit
McDonald's: in some ways it used to be better because deep frying in lard is pretty amazing. But there has been effort off and on for McDonald's to improve the product, and I would argue modern flash freezing means the fries are better than the 90s
BK: I worked there in the 90s. It used to be way better.
Wendy's: used to be much better
Carl's Jr/Hardee's: honestly I feel it's pretty close still
Subway: it has gotten worse
Chipotle: it has gotten significantly worse
In n out and Chik fil A: same as they have been for a while
KFC has gotten worse
mittenfists@reddit
McDonald's fried their french fries in beef tallow into the 90s.
TheJokersWild53@reddit
The only things that have improved in the past 10 years are the McDonald’s QPC since they switched to fresh beef. And the Chicken Sandwich wars made some really good chicken
YogurtclosetDull2380@reddit
The Big Montana from Hardee's was legendary
BigTastyTumbo@reddit
OMG I had completely forgotten about this! I would always put about 5 packets of Hardee's Hot Barbecue sauce on it...unbeatable
SaberTruth2@reddit
Hard yes to this question. The quality was much better and it was actually cheap. Now it’s neither.
KoRaZee@reddit
The case study of red lobster last year is a perfect example of how restaurants have changed and why. Food industry owned by banks and run into the ground for profit and sold after the collapse.
Sklibba@reddit
Idk, some of it might be hindsight bias. McDonalds has always been trash, and I feel like everything they sell now tastes exactly the same as it did 30 years ago. I know for certain pizza hut hasn’t changed at all because I actually worked there nearly 30 years ago and it’s uncanny how I can walk into any location and the smell hits me in the face like I’m 17 again. Everything from the crust to the sauce to the topings is identical to when I worked there
Cloud_Disconnected@reddit
Taco Bell tacos used to have meat in them. Believe it...or not!
Dirtman1016@reddit
Taco Bell is actually one of the few restaurants that I think tastes better than it used to.
Cloud_Disconnected@reddit
I can't agree, but it's a matter of taste I suppose. One man's Cheesy Gordita Crunch is another man's Chili Cheese Burrito.
Round_Ad_1952@reddit
A&W is the only one that's still good?.
FelixMcGill@reddit
Never thought about this, but yeah... most fast food or casual family dining was quite a bit better and more flavorful back then.
The last decent one left was Whataburger but I expect that to go all to hell now that private equity entered the picture.
But Hardee's, Burger King, Wendy's.. much better. Another one that was superior back then was Subway. I used to love it, but now i wouldn't feed that shit to my neighbors dog i can't stand.
On the casual dining front, Olive Garden was actually good. So was TGI Fridays.
yerfatma@reddit
This is like music. Whatever was popular when you were 25 is the perfection of the form.
Y’all eating nuggets from Plato’s Cave. It’s the same fryalayor stuff it’s always been other than the beef tallow changeover.
boulevardofdef@reddit
As evidenced by the vast majority of the comments, this is an unpopular opinion, but people will tell you fast food used to be better because they were kids and kids have low standards. McDonald's was always crap and adults made LOTS of jokes about it when I was a kid in the '80s.
LeafyCandy@reddit
Yes, they did. Everything's half the size it was and made with half the quality. Burger King used to have awesome fries, and then they decided to redo them and they're junk and have been. Wendy's fries were the best, though, but they're not anymore.
Wendy's redeemed its chicken sandwich game, which is nice because for a while everyone was trying to be Chick-Fil-A, and their chicken is junk. But Wendy's, which had the best fast food chicken sandwich, brought that classic back while everyone else kept the junk. Go, Wendy's.
But yeah, fast food used to be a lot better way back when.
babeepunk@reddit
Yes, when they first came out they ran ads explaining their food was healthy. Likely had less preservatives.
EastCoastJohnny@reddit
Taco Bell quality hasn’t moved an inch in 30 years, but it’s now 9 times more expensive.
-Andar-@reddit
Two words. Beef. Tallow.
Bauhausfrau@reddit
Yes. All of these companies have declined. A Happy Meal in the 80’s was in a box with comics and games on it, and a new toy every week. I think now it’s a paper bag with a logo and a smile, are there even toys anymore?
If you look at a fast food business trajectory, there is initial success for a local chain, the chain expands and eventually is bought by either venture capitol or a much bigger legacy fast food chain, and they now have to “create value for shareholders” and this is done by cutting corners, changing quality and the components for initial success to pay shareholders a dividend with the excess cash they made cutting back. You see this in for example Chipotle, local success in Colorado, brand builds up and is bought by McDonalds, they open EVERYWHERE, the chips are no longer free, quality of ingredients going down occurs and they have had a few illness outbreaks, the portions shrink and now you have an overpriced scoop of beans, rice, protein, and salsa with lettuce shreds, and yes I know the guacamole is extra, it makes the meal less sad and more palatable, thank you
Now apply this to every fast food chain. I hope In-N-Out never sells out, but they say they won’t because they are able to maintain quality and make a ton of money by not listing on the stock exchange and let it be run into the ground. You are paying for yachts and partying, but you aren’t invited to the party, you are a data point, you are a metric for consumption, please download our app and give me your birthday and save your card on file, hopefully it isn’t in a data breach. Hope this helps!
senorsmartpantalones@reddit
I partly blame banning transfats. Best thing in the world was a Burger King Chicken Whopper and large fries.
But when they banned transfats it just doesn't taste the same. It's not even good now.
Slippery-Pete76@reddit
Higher quality? Yes
High quality? No
djsynrgy@reddit
I'd wager it's partly that quality slowly declines as the companies chase quarterly profits, but also partly that our palates slowly change over time.
I increasingly appreciate the convenience, but increasingly hate the food. Burgers, especially, I can't even deal with anymore, despite being a beef fiend; it's been at least a decade or two since they actually tasted like beef.
dbzmah@reddit
nothing like unsustainable capital gains...
canisdirusarctos@reddit
I know this isn't true because there are some weird companies out there that refuse to change any part of their products and processes, like In-N-Out.
Phronesis2000@reddit
Great point. 5 guys as well. A rip off, but quality consistently good.
Important_silence@reddit
I’m eating In-N-Out right now. Consistent quality since I first tried it 22 years ago
Dark_Tint@reddit
Short answer is yes
WingmanZer0@reddit
Dominoes and Pizza Hut used to be legit good pizza options. Now anything you get from there tastes like cornmeal and grease.
fapsandnaps@reddit
Former Restaurant General Manager here to give my theories on the decline of quality, hint capitalism and shareholder profit! Anyway...!
The culprit is really the product holding unit. Basically warming drawers to keep cooked meat, chicken, etc in for a few minutes until someone orders it and then it's placed on a bun and served.
So, back in the 90s up until early 2000s everything was served pretty much off the grill. Wendy's, Steak N Shake, etc... all would just cook meat and once it's ordered it's taken from grill to bun. Hot, fresh, delicious...
But then McDonalds came with their Product Holding Unit (PHU) and others have followed suit. In theory, it's a decent idea that should improve speed of service by allowing more meat to be cooked faster. However, every restaurant basically lets that shit sit in there forever. By the time you're ordering it, youve probably got meat that was cooked an hour ago. It's old, lukewarm... etc. Same for chicken. Chicken that's sat under a heat lamp or infrared or convection for an hour just isn't good... no matter what.
Then you get the penny pinching owners trying to meet food cost goals by letting product set for 2... 4 hours... or even longer. It's nasty.
Anyway, that's my rant. Fucking PHUs.
JRawl79@reddit
Was it better quality? Probably not. Was it better value? Oh hell yes!!!
Mackheath1@reddit
Fast food was a treat when we were kids \~ 1980s \~ now "kids these days" have no idea what a big treat it was to get a McDonalds Happy Meal while getting diphtheria in the ball pit or eating Pizza Hut in situ at the restaurant that people have been putting their grubby hands all over.
Now, maybe after about 2005ish ? It all went downhill, not sure when the trend started.
But I absolutely swear by how exciting and tasty fast food used to be - and a a treat for being good, not a three-times-a-week grease plop.
L0tech51@reddit
I mean, even McDonald's had the McDLT
ChristyLovesGuitars@reddit
Fast food has been low quality garbage as long as I’ve been alive. Worse today? Maybe. But never much better.
Bomb-Number20@reddit
Fast food was never good for the most part, especially McDonald's and BK. Wendy's used to be OK, but the rest really have not changed.
thefro023@reddit
Especially Whataburger. Used to be the best fast food place in my area. It was worth the little bit more for the burgers. Has gone down hill so hard since the family sold it to private equity. It's so frustrating because there are so many diehard fans that won't admit it.
Dangerous-Jury9890@reddit
We’ve got a great general manager at the Whataburger nearby and they’ve never let me down— but you’re totally right; it’s hit or miss for most of them out there now when they were consistent 20 years ago.
throw20190820202020@reddit
Burger King used to be an actual competitor to McDonald’s. Their chicken sandwich was a guilty pleasure, and they had my favorite fries, twice cooked.
Went for a combo probably ten years ago, it was inedible. Funny thing is that with them, I can remember exactly when they went downhill - they started marketing a creepy guy in a king costume and mask.
Panera was pricey but worth it. Last time I got a salad from them, there were actual ice crystals on the defrosting chicken.
McDonald’s, Chick-fil-A, and Popeyes are the only ones standing, and they all cost as much as full service restaurants. Taco Bell is ok, not as good as before but not a travesty in all things like BK, Wendy’s, etc.
Quiet_Molasses_3362@reddit
Blame the enshitification of so many aspects of society on private equity/share holder value.
trav1829@reddit
Friday night was Pizza Hut night- parents kinda rotated where some Fridays we would go sit down and I got 2$ worth of quarters to play altered beast - others mom just picked it up and we watched TGIF - either way it’s not the same
elevencharles@reddit
Remember when you could get McDonald’s hamburgers for 10¢ on Wednesdays?
Vanman04@reddit
I will just say when I was a kid working at McDonalds. I used to cook the burgers on the grill.
Dry_Inspection_4583@reddit
A&W and Harvey's still make the cut, the rest have moved to the extract model, more money for less.
stangAce20@reddit
No, they were just cheaper so the price made more sense for the quality level
thejunkmanadv@reddit
No, it's just the price justified the quality.
Dicky_Penisburg@reddit
Holy shit. KFC used to be good! Can you believe that? KFC used to be really fucking good.
IceSmiley@reddit
Id suggest you ask this in a boomer thread because they would know more about this but for people our age, no other than portion size. Like the McChicken sandwich was bigger and had more lettuce when it came out but not way better quality.
Chicken nuggets at McDonald's used to be more gristly meat and are now more white meat and taste better imo
wlea@reddit
I don't eat enough fast food these days to really know, but my mom (born in the 50s) told me that McDonald's used to cook their fries in tallow. That was probably amazing tasting and horrible for you.
Happiekampr1@reddit
I'm still salty about Subway changing the way they cut their subs. It was way better when they cut and dug the top piece out.
AdministrativeBank86@reddit
Applebee's used to be good a long time ago, McDonalds used to have a Big Mac that was BIG and not the puny thing they sell now
RidingUpFromBangor@reddit
Whoppers taste the same to me now as they did in the 90s. Same with Big Macs and most of Wendy’s. Fries have changed a lot though. I remember when they all started experimenting with “healthier” oils. People were so upset
Smurfblossom@reddit
This is my thought, that Burger King and Wendy's burgers still have that 90s yum but the fries are way better.
New_Needleworker_473@reddit
I think the only thing I really like anymore are fast food fries. I am too old to risk the food poisoning.
Petersens_Arm@reddit
CrybullyModsSuck@reddit
Yes. Every year fast food places look to cut costs. So they make a small adjustment. Then another small adjustment the following year. And another adjustment the year after. And on and on. That's why stuff that's good when it's introduced starts to suck after a few years.
It's compounding enshittification.
justpassingby_thanks@reddit
No, what changed was the price, not the quality. Yes maybe McD used a different fries recipe from tallow to pure oil but in general nothing has changed in 25 years except the price.
Now some of that price is ok to go up if they pay better wages. In my state the minimum wage went from 6 something to 7 something in the early oughta to now. Maybe ingredients or energy went up but that is also false.
Fast food just needs to survive so if their costs for wages and food haven't gone up look at their real estate costs and yes after that what they give to the "man".
Fast casual pushed rents up. Fast food used to be on every corner and now not so much.
IDK if you've seen the McD doc about how real estate was more of the game but you should check it out.
I do not mourn the decline of fast food, I mourn that our system thinks that it is a priority to be saved.
SmogMoon@reddit
Burger King in the 80’s was really tasty. The Whopper used to be so good. Held pretty strong up through the mid-90’s. Seems like right around when the Stackers were introduced that it started going downhill. Wendy’s was also really delicious in the 80’s and 90’s. They went downhill later than BK. McDonalds was never “amazing” but the size of their patties and fry servings were larger. Also the prices were really good. All 3 are expensive, tastes mediocre at best, and the service is almost always terrible. Usually just slow from under staffing, but frequently negligent in actually serving what I ordered. Don’t even get me started on Taco Bell as they have given me food poisoning twice. Second time cost me a week off from work. Never again. They will not get a third attempt on my life.
broke_fit_dad@reddit
Less meat more “filler” now, more stuff used to be made in house vs Us Foods or Sysco pre packed stuff
emceebenny2b@reddit
There was a Dunkin’ Donuts in downtown Pittsburgh that had the best donuts. They were a franchise and doing it right. Then DD went full corporate and everything is portioned and uniform and not worth it.
holleefackbud@reddit
Every single corner has been cut in the fast food model to optimize cost and retain the appearance of freshness (sort of) - it was always mediocre now it just feels like eating simulated food
Manticore1023@reddit
80s McDonald’s was amazing. I remember when the sausage McMuffin with egg came out the sausage was actually a bit spicy and had chili flakes in it. The chicken mcnuggets used to be made with dark meat and they were way better than they are today. Their food today feels like it’s been focus grouped to death.
sidurisadvice@reddit
Honestly, I wouldn't trust my own memories or impressions to even hazard and answer. I would look for hard data from folks who actually study this stuff. People's memories aren't worth shit, especially over the course of decades and at different times in their lives.
CheezeLoueez08@reddit
Weird you’re asking because my dad took my family out for dinner. Nice place. Great food. But 6 people was over $600. I don’t feel like we ate that much. Each person except dad had a drink. Each meal was 40-50 and we had one shared appetizer and one shared dessert. If it was just my husband and kids it still would’ve been like $350. It’s insane. And I was saying that to my dad. At least this place can mostly justify that. But I’ve been to mid tier restaurants that used to be affordable for families and spent that much. Again, not ordering anything crazy. Going out is now an extreme luxury and when you do, it’s really hit or miss if the place is any good.
solomons-marbles@reddit
Everything has gone downhill since the 90s. And in the 90s, people said that it’s gone down hill since the 70s. Now here are in the neo-fascist future, living in Asimov‘s dreams.
ZeldaHylia@reddit
Most fast food is trash and not worth the money.. I used to love McDonald’s, Wendy’s and Burger King in the 90s. They’re awful now. Culvers and chick fil a are good. Raising canes. I love panda express. Wawa and Buccees.. Parker’s.. they’re gas stations with really good food.
VinylHighway@reddit
Yes. KFC has been garbage for a long time.
polygonalopportunist@reddit
Buddy you got no idea
velouria-wilder@reddit
My boyfriend and I used to get an Arby’s Deluxe Chicken sandwich followed by a TCBY Moo Malt several times a week and I remember feeling like it was the best food in the world.
aqaba_is_over_there@reddit
Just about everything but fine dining has gone downhill.
I feel like fast casual has dropped off the most, next would be family restaurants and sports bars, and then fast food.
It's mostly local places or home made.
bransanon@reddit
Yes, significantly in some cases. The biggest decline has to be Taco Bell, and with them it's due to the equipment they're using now. They used to use steam tables, so everything just kind of melted together when they assembled it. Now it's like multiple layers of glue.
United_Cry_1084@reddit
I don’t know if I was a kid and didn’t know better, but in the 80’s I thought everything was great. Now it seems like it’s all crud now.
gnrlgumby@reddit
Fast food bone in fried chicken has gotten noticeably skimpier.
theinvisibleworm@reddit
It’s always been garbage, mate. We made fun of it back then just like we do now
CPolland12@reddit
McDonald’s used to cook their fries in beef tallow…. It may have been high in cholesterol but damn that flavor
Deep-Interest9947@reddit
It’s all trash now. Well actually as of 2019 because I don’t think I’ve eaten any since then (maybe Panera in 2020). It’s all expensive trash. I hear it’s reached a new low since 2020.
Comfortable-nerve78@reddit
Of course it’s declining. Food portions are shrinking and prices are rising. Customer service sucks. We’re seeing what a higher wage causes. The crews are smaller and there’s always more of us coming daily. My wife and I are trying our hardest not to buy anything labeled fast food. Every time I have stopped at McDonald’s in the last two years it’s memorable in the wrong way.
veryblanduser@reddit
I don't recall it being any healthier or tasting any better.
I think its just we've gotten better ingredients as home and better ways to cook, so by comparison it seems worse.
forprojectsetc@reddit
Almost everything about the world has changed since I was a kid in the 80s and 90s. McDonalds is the exception.
If anything it’s better due to the greater variety.
I mean, it’s still high calorie, low nutrient, dopamine inducing junk, but it’s held consistent over the years.