Keith Self, a Republican representative from Texas, provoked anger among Democrats by appearing to liken the Biden administration’s anti-disinformation efforts to steps by the Nazi to construct public opinion in 1930s Germany.
Posted by notbob1959@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 40 comments
huskarl1@reddit
Biden tried and failed to implement a censorship czar
noncongruent@reddit
No, he did not. Stop making stuff up.
boringhangover@reddit
The ones who cry foul the loudest are usually the ones committing the crime themselves
noncongruent@reddit
Yep. The person who says "Who farted?!" on the elevator is usually the one that gassed the chamber.
Bardfinn@reddit
So the context here is that Rep Self is equating the Biden administration’s efforts to merely reach out to social media platforms about their efforts to squelch antivaxx disinformation, with Nazi policy of total control of radio / newspapers / textbooks / publishing.
Rep Self believes that it is impermissible for the US Government to intervene in any speech, unless, of course, that speech is information about LGBTQ people, transgender medical health, women’s reproductive health, the theory of evolution, the criminality of the Jan 6 rioters who tried to overthrow the Constitutional government of the USA … or the dangers of taking ivermectin to “treat” Covid
This occurred during a hearing “investigating” “the censorship industrial complex”
noncongruent@reddit
Don't forget one of the big topics that Republicans don't think is covered by our Constitution's 1st Amendment is anything decrying the genocide in Gaza. Mass-slaughtering Palestinians is something not to be spoken of in this country.
Bardfinn@reddit
I know you’re a moderator here - and so I’m just going to note that Rep Self is a cisgender man, and should be referred to as such.
noncongruent@reddit
And I want to remind you of two things: One, misgendering her isn't anything like what she did to Rep McBride, it's meant as satire to insult her for what she did. She deserves no protection from that. And secondly, according to Trump's EO issued January 20th we are all effectively female, so referring to Ms. Self as female is perfectly in line with Trump's definition of biological sex.
But really, referring to her is meant to insult her, and it's not the same insult in any way that she used against Sara McBride.
Bardfinn@reddit
I'm a transgender woman (which you probably already know);
(Good) Satire has the effect of causing the subject to reconsider their priors without collateral social stigma being promoted. Rep Self isn't in the audience here, and isn't likely to be in the audience of this exchange.
Representative Self isn't in the audience of this exchange and is highly unlikely to ever be part of the audience, so the insult doesn't find its target there.
What target it does find is an audience who see the priors established that "misgendering someone with intent around the subject of transgender people is acceptable for some circumstances", which you can understand is my concern - not just as a transgender woman, but as the transgender woman who devoted several years of her life to hauling Reddit into kicking out the transphobes et al and adopting the Moderator Code of Conduct in order to keep them off.
To put it another way - I hope for the totality of such conversations to uphold the values I believe in, and not that they embrace the practices which are employed to deny I and my siblings our dignity and autonomy over our identities.
Texas has a common law right of publicity from misappropriation, (Texas Property Code, T. 4, Ch. 26) which right I and others rely upon to protect ourselves from misgendering and deadnaming. Under such circumstances I cannot accede that another's right to same be abrogated. The law is the law, and applies equally to all.
I wish for his infamy, in his choice of actions and inactions, to be inextricably tied to him for all time, and not to some random woman who happens to share his surname, or mistakenly assigned to the woman representative from Texas, Rep Johnson, who was so privileged to have immediately retorted to Rep Self's highly inappropriate invocation of the Nazis, here.
And I can certainly understand the desire for an emotional catharsis —
I simply would object to predicating such catharsis on normalising the premise that being a woman is an insult.
That tends to leverage and amplify an ambient misogyny, which I understandably take offense to.
And as I have fought and worked hard to be a woman, as well as survive three murder attempts which were undertaken to dissuade me from being a woman and speaking up for women in general (as well as all others who would be targeted based on identity or vulnerability), I think you can understand where my concern here comes from.
Thank you.
beeba80@reddit
So are we allowed to misgender now or only the mods are allowed to I’m confused because satire is cool but it’s also a form of making him seem lesser than do the mods believe trans people are lesser than deep down
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Rich_Psychology8990@reddit
The current regime is absolutely NOT crowning itself in glory, or honor, or self-awareness by openly targeting its own sources of Inconvenient Speech, but the previous regime and the Permanent Managerial Class were just as damaging and tyrannical, which is what drove a despairing electorate into the arms of Trump.
noncongruent@reddit
LOL!
ToeJam_SloeJam@reddit
Y’all remember how in the final days leading up to 11/5, people were actually making the argument that this administration would be better for Palestine?
And now students and people who publicly support Palestine are being picked up by plainclothes officers.
noncongruent@reddit
They're being disappeared. No warrants, no ID by officers, put on secret planes and sent to who knows where. Loved ones and attorneys have no idea where their family/clients are. This is third-world shit, the same kind of stuff Putin and Castro did and do.
Rich_Psychology8990@reddit
As well he should have. The government doesn't get to decide what Truth is and then harass dissidents therefore.
It isn't like a government worker can simply "reach out" to a platform when both parties know quite well that another part of the government can destroy that platform if it doesn't play ball and do as requested.
muv2850@reddit
The Biden administration was not just reaching out. The Biden administration was actively pressuring all media to suppress anything that contradicted their chosen narrative. It’s called censorship. It’s evil, and that’s what Keith Self is speaking out against.
Bardfinn@reddit
When Reddit allowed volunteer moderators to remove content from subreddits which broke community rules, that was called censorship.
When Reddit shut down subreddits distributing stolen nudes photos of celebrities (some of whom were minors), that was called censorship.
When Reddit removed content which targeted individuals and groups for harassment, that was called censorship.
When Reddit removed content which called for the assault and homicide of people, that was called censorship.
When Reddit removed content which consisted of an invitation to treat for the trade of scheduled firearms and firearms equipment, that was called censorship.
When Reddit removed child sex exploitation material, that was called censorship.
When Reddit removed content which is known to result in physical harm to the person so advised, which disinformation is distributed under the colour of medical practice, that is called censorship.
When the government of the United States, in response to a lawfully declared state of emergency, seeks to counter and prevent the distribution of disinformation known to result in physical harm to the person so advised, which disinformation was distributed under the colour of medical practice, that is called censorship.
Speech acts are not provided with absolute indemnity from government intervention in the United States.
If Representative Self were actually concerned with the sanctity of the First Amendment, or rights, or evil, he would take action to address the government that is disappearing persons - in violation of due process, and the First, Fourth, and Fifth Amendments - who committed no crime and who engaged in unpopular but Constitutionally protected speech acts.
He would not be convening a Congressional investigation into a government action which comports with the furtherance of the common welfare.
Bardfinn@reddit
The US Government has been taken over by Alex Jonesian quackadoodles who unironically believe that Grammar Nazis Are The Real Nazis
magicwombat5@reddit
I think it should be in quotes rather than in (erroneous) title case. "Grammar Nazis are the real Nazis." Have some respect for written English!
(This was definitely broad /satire.)
rangecontrol@reddit
goddamn masterclass in headline writing.
this is why the u.s. is the way it is.
monolith_blue@reddit
You mean to tell me people don't like being compared to nazis? Weird.
UnknownQTY@reddit
A GOP Rep literally quoted Goebbles in a flattering light this week so…
insta-kip@reddit
This is the same story.
Xibro_Xibra@reddit
Ahhh...the ol pot n kettle. The secret is they're both fucking nazis! The more you know! Until next time...
RoosterzRevenge@reddit
Yeah, most everyone gets pissed when you point out their bullshit.
muv2850@reddit
Keith Self is a great Congressman. We need more like him.
ccrom@reddit
Wow. He is trying so hard to set her up for his Nazi quote, but the quote is not applicable. He pretends he made a great point, then rushes from the room to avoid blowback.
Not even dishonest editing is going to save this moment.
yesitsyourmom@reddit
Yep. Sounds like something he would say.
FluidFisherman6843@reddit
Gaslight
Obstruct
Project <---- you are here
Radio_Face_@reddit
Hey don’t call us nazis that’s our thing!
My how the turntables…
acw36@reddit
Speak truth people on the left get pissed.
GalacticFartLord@reddit
Thats called projection. He's accusing the dems of doing exactly what the GOP has been doing for a long time now.
comtessequamvideri@reddit
Hey, that's no way to talk on Liberation Day!
betdis@reddit
Can’t I have just one day without the country showing us what small white men we have pretending leading it?! Just one goddammit
detox02@reddit
What a Self own
Pretty_Shallot_586@reddit
Keith Self is an epic fucking idiot so him saying something this stupid tracks perfectly
comalicious@reddit
Straight up telling on himself. Lmao
bumpachedda@reddit
They’re free to draw those parallels, however ludicrous. Hell if they want to make that a topic, I think there’s plenty to discuss on their side.
notbob1959@reddit (OP)
Title is quoted from this The Guardian online article:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/01/capitol-hill-hearing-biden-censorship-trump