1500 hours
Posted by Accomplished-Tax5151@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 138 comments
I know you can’t get hired at 1500 hours anymore but I’m still confused as to how this worked in the past. If you built your hours in a c172 and that’s all you’ve flown would regionals still hire you without twin turbine time? Did people jump straight from c172 to flying jets?
Hoosier-Queen1217@reddit
It's almost scary. Somehow, it works. My husband went from a 172, to a MD-80 to a 747 over the course of 14 months. Would recommend USA Jet if you're looking to get your ATP without a contract.
spitfire5181@reddit
Yes.
Accomplished-Tax5151@reddit (OP)
Seems insane. Was there a long training period? Or sim work?
immaterial737-@reddit
If you think the way do it in the US is insane, you should see how they do it in Europe or the Mideast.
ShittyLanding@reddit
We let pilots with <200 hours total time fly C-5s, F-16s, KC-46s, P-8s……
Gotta learn sometime!
skyHawk3613@reddit
Yep!
Ryno__25@reddit
You get pilots who fly UH-72s for 60 hours, Apaches for 100 more hours and then fly CAS for ground troops.
Airline pilots used to be pretty similar with low hourly training requirements up until the congressional changes ~ 20 years ago. I believe Europe, Asia, and South American airlines have significantly lower minimum hour requirements compared to US airlines pilots.
x4457@reddit
And your training program is 2 years as a result. That’s the difference.
ShittyLanding@reddit
It would not be at all unusual for a day 1 UPT stud to be flying his/her MDS (in training) in less than 18 months.
x4457@reddit
Okay, 18 months. Point is that it’s a lot longer than 2-3 months for the civilian side and that’s the context I was trying to provide.
You should also mention that <200 total time also includes over 100 hours of FTD/Sim time.
ShittyLanding@reddit
What are the starting and end points of the 2-3 months you’re talking about? OP was talking about 1500 hour pilots going straight to big jets.
I’m not trying to start a pissing contest here and not arguing that the military training pipeline is a lot more dense and focused than the average ATP mill.
x4457@reddit
No pissing involved, don’t worry - I just felt that additional context was required.
For our 1500 hour wonders, it’s a 2-3 month training program.
For Europe’s 200 hour kids, it’s a bit longer than that but they also have a lot more pre-prep and on the MPL side (to my understanding) there’s a tooooon of sim time prior to any checking event. Like 3-4x as much as in the US.
For our DOD studs, the training program is so long and robust because you’ve got that same experience level without the rigid environment to operate in like the European airline world.
It makes sense and it all scales, just providing additional context.
nyc_2004@reddit
Mil training is a whole different beast than civilian flight training is…also you get washed if you suck, whereas civilian you can kinda brute force your way through
Wasatcher@reddit
People are still doing it. I have two colleagues hired by SkyWest from the cadet program recently. A third with an offer from Allegiant and an interview with SkyWest. Cadet programs are the key right now.
JJAsond@reddit
If you can get in in the first place
monke-pox@reddit
Very true. I had an interview with republic for their cadet program. 2 days prior to the interview I get an email saying they canceled it and they “elected to move forward with other applicants”. No explanation as to why or anything
skyHawk3613@reddit
It’s probably because they had an over abundance of applicants
Natural20Pilot@reddit
This. I know there’s many in this sub who have various opinions on all sides concerning hiring practices around cadet programs, many of which are valid. But these are the times we live in and it’s what they’re doing. I joined a regional and mainline cadet program. Got a CJO at 1514 hours and just wrapped up training at my regional. I know it’s competitive but if you want an airline job now or in the coming years, do everything you can to get into a cadet programs. Any program, whichever will take you.
CobaltGate@reddit
Which of Skywest's cadet programs are 'hard to get in'?
JJAsond@reddit
Maybe it's an EU thing
Top_Salamander@reddit
Wait im confused are you supposed to apply for those cadet programs when your close to ATP mins or as early as possible.
Wasatcher@reddit
Nah you want to do it at like 250-400 and then you update your hours periodically and check in with a mentor or whatever they call themselves. They often won't accept you if you're close to atp mins already.
KitchenTomatillo3390@reddit
Agreed. I’m well past R-ATP mins but off the street and haven’t heard a thing since getting there. My coworkers who were cadets, and albeit have been sitting on CJO’s for a while, recently got class dates. I’m lucky in that I just got a non-flying/full-time aviation related job that eliminates my $550/mo health insurance costs and affords a lot of face time with 135 operators. Hopeful this route might pan into something with some good networking.
devilOG420@reddit
Those fuckers at SkyWest just took my cfi from me. Brent, I miss you…
monke-pox@reddit
Very true. I had an interview with republic for their cadet program. 2 days prior to the interview I get an email saying they canceled it and they “elected to move forward with other applicants”. No explanation as to why or anything
skyHawk3613@reddit
Yes. Training period was not long, just your standard couple of months. There was a big learning curve and you had to really study hard. I think Frontier still hires 1500 hour pilots, and Spirit did and will probably continue to do it, when they start hiring again.
sunmal@reddit
C172 + 25H of multi, remember that.
People with 50H of multi, more, and/or turbune time always had the edge over those who didnt, but….. yeah
licensemeow@reddit
Yep had about 250h of multi when I got hired (in 2021, but the first wave out of COVID and weren't sure what the landscape looked like yet...)
SpartanDoubleZero@reddit
My CFI thru my PPL hit 1500 hrs, applied to a corporate gig with falcons, lears and challengers. He got the call, at 1600 hours and interviewed when he was just over 1600. He wound up getting typed in the challenger 650. The fastest plane he flew prior was the one he did his ME time in. He said his first actual flight he was completely unable to stay ahead of the airplane and by the time they landed his mind was at positive rate, gear up and climbing through 500 feet.
CobaltGate@reddit
When did he get the call as in about what year?
SpartanDoubleZero@reddit
It was a month. He applied in late May early June, interviewed late June started training in July. He had students from 8am to midnight most days since it’s through a club. Now not all of those students were flying, but he was managing nearly 30 hours a week giving dual.
CobaltGate@reddit
Thanks. What year did this happen?
SpartanDoubleZero@reddit
Oh, my bad I miss read your first comment. This happened last year.
Sufficient-Tomato-20@reddit
lol. Hope he’s good now.
SpartanDoubleZero@reddit
His Snapchat stories are pretty sweet lol. I’m jealous.
canyoutriforce@reddit
I did my A320 type rating with about 170h total
Logical_Check2@reddit
I literally just started flying the crj in January. I had 26 hours of multi time.
Davito32@reddit
It's very normal in some other parts of the world.
emptycolosseum@reddit
Both, except your training is like drinking out of a fire hose and your class gets narrowed down to let’s say the final 5 or so. You’re also (of course) doing a checkride on the type of airplane you fly at the end.
Feckmumblerap@reddit
Im a student at the very beginning of my journey, something ive wondered is is there basically like a “trainer crj700” or something or do you go straight from the sim to carrying passengers? Ik you get type rated in the sim but do you actually fly the plane irl too before you go to the line?
TristanwithaT@reddit
First flight in the actual airplane is with 65 paying pax sitting behind you. My check airman had me fly the first leg too. Many will have the new person be pilot monitoring for the first leg or two to get used to it but my guy just threw me in the deep end lol. He coached me through it though and basically told me everything to do.
SaucyPastaSauce@reddit
Sim to IOE which is a regular flight full of pad but with a check airman. Basically a captain that has training to handle brand new FO’s for the first ≈50 hours in the jet until signing them off to fly with a regular captain
Feckmumblerap@reddit
Ahh that makes sense, thanks for the explanation!
hawker1172@reddit
There’s nothing abnormal about it. There has to be a path for career progression. These pilots have at least 50 hours of multi-engine time in accordance with FAA regulations with many having much more as multi-engine instructors.
Before being released to the line they have to meet all training requirements and standards receiving an ATP cert and type rating in their jet.
juniorfromgh@reddit
Why is it insane? You have solid fundamentals by that point all you need is jet training
earthgreen10@reddit
so is twin turbo not techically a prerequesite?
spitfire5181@reddit
For the airlines? No.
Wakey1132@reddit
Can someone provide me some context? ‘I know you can’t get hired at 1500 hours anymore’. It’s different for us here in Europe 😁 so I’m wondering what’s changed
Logical_Check2@reddit
It's just the hiring market. 1500 piston hours just isn't competitive at this time to get an airline job like it was a year ago
CobaltGate@reddit
More like two years ago, no?
Logical_Check2@reddit
I got a job offer November if '23 so yeah about 1.5 years ago. Everything dropped off right after that.
OkResponsibility3877@reddit
Get your apps in everywhere, go to the air shows like sun and fun or Oshkosh. I went to one of the booths at Oshkosh and talked ti the director of recruitment for my current airline and we really got it off. I had an email to interview before I walked back to my tent that day
Temporary_Double8059@reddit
Well they had at least 25 hours of twin time too :)... the problem is most 135 operators are single pilot and to be captain you need 1200 hours+... so everyone just CFI'ed for a few extra months and skipped 135 flying to go straight into 121.
a_provo_yakker@reddit
Yep. Happened all the time, and when the applicant pools thin out it’ll happen again. At my second airline, a low cost Airbus operator, plenty either had barely any regional time or they came straight from being CFI.
It’s hard to understand unless you live it firsthand, but by the time you train and interview and study and show up for training at that first real job, you’re pretty ready for it. If you dig around, you’ll hear plenty of people say their ATP checkride/type rating were some of the easier training events they’ve ever done.
Part of it is, you’re finally at the zenith of your career thus far. And the other part is that operating a crew turbojet aircraft is pretty simple. Two people to divide up the duties, the flying itself is easy (you acquired basic flying skills hundreds upon hundreds of hours ago), and then you learn how to program the computer and control the autopilot.
Shoot look at Europe. They train a bit different, but as low as 250 hours they could be flying something like Ryanair. And the military. Learning to fly in a T-6 Texan II turboprop basically from the beginning.
It seems daunting but really it’s a piece of cake.
EZPZdub@reddit
It’s lower than that in Europe even. I had about 160 hours when I flew an Airbus for the first time for the flag carrier. And the training is not even airline specific at all, it’s all just general training, nothing special. Heck before I flew that Airbus for the first time, I hadn’t flown anything bigger than a DA42, nor had I flown or touched a plane in 4 years bar 1.5 hours 2 years prior to revalidate my MEP/IR. But it all works. The training standards across Europe is really first class, and taken with upmost professionalism across all levels, everyone comes out of it as a very competent pilot in the right hand seat of a jet
Sk1900d@reddit
Can’t really use Europe as a role model because they test, hire, and train people from zero hours, with training tailored for the specific airline. Not to mention the 15 ish theory exams you need to write to become a pilot.
a_provo_yakker@reddit
Nope I disagree, it’s valid. In fact in my third paragraph I made the same course but kept it simple. They train differently. No point getting into the EASA and MPL for OP’s question.
It’s simply to highlight that even in a couple hundred hours, you’re ready to go fly a jet. Nothing special about 1500, or being a CFI. Neither an hour milestone nor a piston instructor job will prepare you for a jet and that was my whole point. Airline sim training is about conditioning you to their crew philosophy and aircraft profiles. Those ab initios just get pushed in that direction a lot sooner.
Sk1900d@reddit
The «single pilot/trainer S.E. piston straight into the multi crew turbine in the busiest airspace in the world» pathway is a whole separate can of worms that I am going to avoid.
There are some earlier posts here talking about how regional training CAs basically treat each IOE as single pilot ops, and there’s a reason why.
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
That's why we have a safety pilot for the first 20 flights or so - an additional par of eyes to spot anything the training captain has missed, and also to take over in case of incapacitation.
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
Those style of programs output a relatively small percentage of all new commercial pilots in Europe. Most students still go through a "white-tail" (generic) training program, that's not linked to any specific airline, but they still end up in the right seat of a jet at 150 or 200hrs, depending on the type of program they do.
Sk1900d@reddit
Sure, that may be true. The second part of my comment still stands, however.
It’s relatively easy to get a pilot’s license in North America. And I’ve met some low time guys that definitely did not study hard and probably should not be in a jet until they hit 2-3k hours. Definitely not in a jet I would take for my vacation.
Direct_Cabinet_4564@reddit
Back in the early 2000’s the regionals were hiring people at less than 500 hours and around 50 multi. That was obviously before the Colgan crash that resulted in SIC being required to have an ATP.
Snoopy2blimp@reddit
a few years after 9/11 (2003 to 2005ish) you needed 200 multi for an interview at a regional.
in the mid 90s you could have gotten away with 50ish hours of multi.
Any_Subject_2966@reddit
Yes. It was nuts. It felt insane going to a rjet after a 172 with barely any multi time and no turbine time whatsoever. Probably the most stressful thing I’ve ever been thru in my life. I passed, but I didn’t think I was going to. I felt in over my head lol
VrefPlus0@reddit
This is me rn lol can I DM you?
pooserboy@reddit
Exactly how I felt. I had days in training where I thought I wasn’t gonna make it but that was also probably due to built up stress. The actual checkride itself was pretty simple.
CountryNo9411@reddit
what do you mean you cant get hired at 1500 hours anymore? I'm confused
Accomplished-Tax5151@reddit (OP)
From everything I’ve heard it’s near impossible unless you know someone, just because of the Regionals slowing down
Kuhny_@reddit
Who says you can’t get hired at 1500 anymore? I still see people do it. Why do you think that?
wt1j@reddit
If it’s Thursday around here yes and SkyWest will hire you immediately with 1500 hours in a 172. If it’s Tuesday you absolutely need a degree.
DeltaPapa402@reddit
Circa 2007-ish the ink would be drying on your multi-engine commercial, and if you had like 50 hours of multi engine time, the regional airlines would pick you up right away. Literally 300 hours TT and be right seat on a jet provided you passed all the airline provided simulator training, classroom training, SIC Type rating IOE, etc.
The catch is that you were flying turboprops or 50 seat RJ's making a whopping $18,000 a year as a first year FO and having $35-50k flight training debt and $25-50k college tuition debt.
The joys of the pre-1500 hour rule times!
Source: me and a bunch of my college buddies from that time frame at a well known 141 (not riddle) went through this.
BarberIll7247@reddit
Yes, personally I know many. Including myself. C172 ----> Hawker
pilotshashi@reddit
I rather join airlines at 250. Can’t grill my 🧠 for 1500. Sorry not everyone made for this.
AltitudeEdge@reddit
I went straight from a light twin to a CRJ, and that was back in 2007. You’d be hard pressed to get there with just 172 time. You need a commercial certification which requires a complex endorsement, and most if not all regionals require a multi engine rating. But you won’t need much complex or multi time. And yes nearly everyone gets on without turbine time. The regionals is typically where you get your turbine time that the majors require. That being said, the type of flying you’re doing matters. Renting a 172 for 1500 hours won’t impress anyone and it will be cost prohibitive. They want to see that someone hired you and trusted you to fly their expensive asset. The most common route is becoming a CFI.
Licur@reddit
Commercial certificate no longer requires a complex endorsement
SoilAdministrative57@reddit
Endorsement, no. Training maybe. Complex time or TAA will work for 10 of the required 20 hours of dual received for your commercial license. 61.129a3
AltitudeEdge@reddit
Good to know, but that’s probably a good endorsement to get for anyone wanting to fly turbine aircraft at some point.
brucebrowde@reddit
Does that mean a CFI that flew only 172 for 1500h is a way better candidate than a non-CFI who flew only 172 for 1500h?
AltitudeEdge@reddit
I’d say the CFI is better off than someone who rented or bought their own plane and just flew around for 1500 hours. But not necessarily that much better off than someone who flew checks, pipeline patrols, traffic watch, aerial photography etc. There’s lots of ways to build time and get paid for it, and while the job market might be slow right now, I wouldn’t expect it to stay that way long. Once it picks up again jobs flying airplanes will be there for the taking for anyone who is qualified. TL;DR someone with professional experience will be a better candidate than a hobbyist.
navigate2me@reddit
Well in most countries people go from flying the 172’s to jets just at 200-250 hrs. Which is even more crazy to me. I have a lot more just flying 172’s and know that it’s still going to be a challenge to go into a jet but idk how these people with 200 hrs it TT do that
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
Slightly different training program and A LOT more theory relevant to airline flying.
RomanCessna@reddit
In Europe this is standard. You get hired right after training, 200 hours. And we are taoking about bigger jeys, A320 family or B737, not RJs. But not many people have a hard time transitioning, most handle it without problems.
Also, in Europe there is the MPL (multi pilot licence). That one is a preparation for flying only jets. You get circa 50 hours in real aircraft in the beginning, which is let's say PPL level syllabus, then you go into the sim of the jet you will fly and learn the rest (IR and type rating). Dp then you fly the jets woth 50 hours of actual flight time.
120SR@reddit
Wait until this guy finds out about every country other than the US
minfremi@reddit
“I’m not going to fly any airplane flown by some inexperienced pilot!” Probably some uneducated member of the public.
NoteChoice7719@reddit
Do Americans realise airline pilots with 200-300 hours are flying airliners in US airspace, just not for US carriers?
brucebrowde@reddit
Am I right that what you're saying is that other countries can make safe pilots in 200h, but US cannot for some reason? If so, why is that? Or better - what should US change to do the same and why doesn't US do it?
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
It can, but there's an artifical barrier in place to keep the wages up.
Bopping_Shasket@reddit
I had about 150 hours before starting in the A320
Bot_Marvin@reddit
Still happens today.
Even if you don’t go to an airline, there is still a big jump. I would argue flying some clapped out be-1900 after a two week crash course is significantly more difficult than flying a e-175 after a 2 month AQP footprint
Shark-Force@reddit
This is very true. The first time I took off in the Embraer, when 3 months prior I was flying a diamond 20, I thought "WOW... this is exactly like the sims I spent the last month doing". It was one of the most underwhelming things in my life because they train you so well.
chickcox@reddit
Hey I should take offense… but you’re right.
dpetngl@reddit
This is still the most common path I’d say. CFI & commercial multi, instruct to get 1,500, usually in a small ASEL like a 172 or Cherokee. Then straight to regional onboarding, ground school, type rating, and IOE with pax.
BChips71@reddit
Not true that you can't get hired at 1500. I have a mentee who has a little over 1100 and got his CJO from a regional as an R-ATP applicant. It can be done.
Longjumping-Escape15@reddit
Yep 1000 hours in Diamonds, Piper etc —-> A320
-LordDarkHelmet-@reddit
Yup. One day I was flying a C172 at 800 total time, and the next day I was off to CRYJ training
attemptingtoadult1@reddit
Get your ATP/CTP course and written exam done. It’ll put you ahead of other candidates.
Most regionals aren’t paying for it anymore (and if they are, you’re locked in to some contract for it)
One_Event1734@reddit
Yes and with less than 1500. I got hired at 980.
Worldx22@reddit
I saw a guy go from a 172 to a CRJ and straight up to B747s in like... no time.
SoCalGuy999@reddit
There was a time when you could get hired with a wet commercial/multi. The “better regionals” wanted 500-750. When I was in HS, eagle wanted 3500. It’s cyclical but the ATP rule changed things.
pvdas@reddit
Yes. And that still happens with cadet programs.
CobaltGate@reddit
I wonder which of the cadet programs the regionals are now going to first, Skywest being an example.
oranges1cle@reddit
Huh?
CobaltGate@reddit
40 cadet programs for Skywest alone: https://www.skywest.com/skywest-airline-jobs/career-guides/pilot-pathway-program/
I am wondering which ones do they 'go to' first as far as hiring?
oranges1cle@reddit
Well SkyWest has one cadet program with 40 partner schools, meaning you can only join the program from one of those schools. As far as who goes first, it’s just who submits their app first seeing as you’re guaranteed an interview if you’re in the program. They don’t really discriminate between schools.
CobaltGate@reddit
Yes, you can only join one program. But Im not sure that the schools get treated the same when it comes to hiring time; we don't know that for sure. As you know, an interview doesn't guarantee a job.
plane-guy907@reddit
Actually you still need multi time.
Anderi45@reddit
Meanwhile in Europe the 20 year olds go on to fly B737/A320 with 190 Hrs 👀
NoteChoice7719@reddit
Not just EU, the rest of the world outside America. And given the recent poor run of U.S. flying I’d say they are at least as safe as US pilots, if not safer.
BeeDubba@reddit
People did and still do jump straight to jets, but often there's an intermediate step of flying king airs in-between.
That being said, my regional class had a big mix, everything from CFIs with mostly 172 time, to prior airline pilots, to a military C-5 pilot.
phalanxo@reddit
You can still get hired 1500 hrs or even less, I have a buddy with a recent republic CJO right now that got hired at like \~1100 on a R-ATP, non cadet. It's just competitive, but not impossible. He might be waiting a long time for a class date, but yeah.
Head_Visit849@reddit
Exactly
FantasticMission719@reddit
So im confused what flight time do you need to get hired by the regionals
Head_Visit849@reddit
Reddit and Facebook have created an echo chamber of people saying “1500-2000tt in piston isn’t competitive anymore” when the fact of the matter is that regionals aren’t hiring people with 2500tt and 800-1000 turbine because they know they will leave for a major as soon as they can. I know multiple people that started class dates with regionals recently who were around 1100-1300, right above their RATP mins from university
redditburner_5000@reddit
It could have been as low as 500hrs pre-colgan depending on your timing. When I was at the point of going to airlines, 800tt and 50me would have been about the minimum. It floated between 500-1000 favoring people closer to 1000/100.
Straight from trainers to right seat of the (then brand new) CRJ900.
Zapatos-Grande@reddit
In my case, yes. But I also hired on 18 months prior to the 1500 hour rule. I had just shy of 1500 hours when I started indoc, got the CJO at about 1200 hours. Company's minimum was 1000 hours. I had about 900 from instructing, ferrying and maintenance flights for the school I was at. It was a mix of 172, SR-20, PA-28, and PA-44 flying, mostly 172 and PA-44, as I was the "go to guy" on both models. I also taught ground school. The PA-44 and Duchess were the most complex planes I had flown prior to sitting right seat on an RJ.
EsquireRed@reddit
I had five 1,000hr flight instructors in my new hire ULCC class a few years ago. They went from a C172 straight to an A320. They were all really sharp and all passed the first time around.
Dependent-Place-4795@reddit
What the hell am I doing wrong to not get hired or interviewed by any ULCC or regional Jesus
EsquireRed@reddit
Nothing. They were in a University partnership program and hiring was nuts at the time. Things have normalized and today they wouldn't be hired if they applied. They just had good timing, that's all.
Believe me, I feel that too, but mine is for trying to get to a major and away from the ULCC I'm at. We'll all get there, just slower than what we've been accustomed to the last while. Hang in there!
Ragnneir@reddit
I'm from EASA land. I jumped from the Tecnams 2006/2008/2010 (just 30 hours multi engine) straight into an A320. It's a bit different, but I didn't feel that super duper complexity, or had any huge troubles. Of course the first few hours are complicated, but afterwards, if you study, and strive to become a standard pilot, then there's really no big barrier to jump from.
McDrummerSLR@reddit
I got hired without turbine time at my regional at restricted mins (141 college background). The transition was pretty wild, mostly because of the speed at which everything happens in a jet.
huertamatt@reddit
I started in 2016 with 2000 total time, 27 of that was in piston twins. The rest was in the 172 and Archer. Everybody gets the same training footprint. You can ether swing it or you can’t.
twowheeledwonder@reddit
IDK man they let my dumb ass fly a fuckin' Apache after like... a handful of total time. I was in an AH64 faster than the national average PPL completion hours/duration.
Not saying it's a great idea, but it do be like that sometimes
Mynoseispurple@reddit
Yes, there is a part 141 near me that once you hit mins, you go from DA20/40s to A319/20s
Oregon-Pilot@reddit
It’s a far less common way to go, but in the corporate world things can be different. I was in the right seat of jets at about 400 hours, and flying in the left seat of a Citation at 800 hours. Far less structured environments than the airlines, and it’s 100% dictated by who you know, and what their insurance allows.
MarionberryChemical9@reddit
The U.S. has very high hour requirements vs almost every other country. 2 Vietnamese girls in my school along with an Indian girl get their commercial multi, timebuild to 250 and go back to their home country flying airbus’s
m4a785m@reddit
Yeah, when I instructed I honestly felt like after 400ish hours I had really reached a plateau in the sense of flying ability with GA aircraft. Transitioning to jets was a bit of a learning curve but we all ended up making it through training just fine.
8lue8erry@reddit
Former F9 Cadet here. I jumped over at 1400~ hours (135 sim time) and I had colleagues who came over from ERAU and UND with ~1000hrs of 172/Seminole time straight into the bus.
Some crushed it ("just fly the damn plane") others struggled. Ultimately all of us made it through!
Few_Party294@reddit
I went into the right seat of a jet at around 1000tt without a RATP or anything. Just found the right Part 135 at the right time. Started building TPIC right at 1500tt.
sharkbite217@reddit
Yeah. And believe it or not people went straight from 172s to jets with much less than 1500 before the rules changed.
Source: am one
AntiPinguin@reddit
In Europe you can jump from ~150 hours in SEP and MEP straight to flying jets…
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
That's pretty normal outside of USA, e.g. getting into the RHS of an A320 or B737 at 150 or 200h total time, with ink still fresh on the CPL licence.
pilotryan1735@reddit
You didn’t even need to have 1500 to interview. I interviewed with about 1200 and just needed to have 1500 and start class within 6 months of getting the CJO
juniorfromgh@reddit
How long from application to interview and what TT did you apply with ?
pilotryan1735@reddit
Just a few weeks and had about 1200.
This was pre Covid, times were different and pay was less than half.
Ludicrous_speed77@reddit
People go from c172 to CRJ/ERJ, and during the hiring boom, 737/767/320
Any_Subject_2966@reddit
Yeah man, I missed the boom because I was restricted. I’m 90% sure if I went to the regionals with 1500 unrestricted instead of 1000 restricted in mid 2023 I could have made it all the way. Guess I’ll never know, I’m stuck on the rj still. Just now got my license unrestricted. Could be a lot worse though, I’m thankful to be where I’m at especially considering how things are now in the job market
Joe_Littles@reddit
Many went to regional jets, some went to A320s. Still happens today fwiw.
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
I know you can’t get hired at 1500 hours anymore but I’m still confused as to how this worked in the past. If you built your hours in a c172 and that’s all you’ve flown would regionals still hire you without twin turbine time? Did people jump straight from c172 to flying jets?
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