It’s none of the government’s business.
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 147 comments
Posted by ENVYisEVIL@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 147 comments
Imaginary-Media-2570@reddit
There is NO justification for leaving a 1yo without a "parentis in loci" (teacher, babysitter, daycare and certainly NOT a 10yo. The whistle-blower rwas 1000% correct.
lajfa@reddit
More context: "The sheriff’s office stood by the arrest, asserting on Wednesday that Louis was not attending a job interview at the time of his arrest." Also, the children's mother lived a mile away. And the father has a girlfriend, who claimed they are homeless. source
Familiar-Crow8245@reddit
From first hand knowledge: You cannot believe a word out of the mouths of the sheriff's department. They are all trying to cover their asses all the time. They could arrest the Pope, and when people complained, they would say he was caught red-handed, smuggling pirated bibles.
INTJ_life@reddit
This is important context. Wild that people ignore it.
Fundementalquark@reddit
It’s none of the government’s business.
No child was in danger save the most wild of “what ifs.”
Familiar-Crow8245@reddit
And then it could have happened to anyone, even with an adult caring for them...
DigRepresentative42O@reddit
At 10 years old and the youngest sibling I was the last one out of the house everyday. My parents trusted me to lock up and get to the bus stop. This is just complete bullshit, the man has all the right intentions, fuck whoever reported this and brought on this mans charges.
Familiar-Crow8245@reddit
I totally agree. I am also sure that the 10 year old was well aware of his responsibilities to his siblings.
denzien@reddit
I started getting myself to school and back (first the bus, then by walking) starting in 2nd grade. When I was in 1st grade, my mother would walk me to and from school and quiz me on how to go.
Not so for my kids though, because my wife taught at their school until they were driving.
persona-3-4-5@reddit
Just because you were able to do that doesn't mean this guy's kid would be as responsible. Context is important. I've met kids younger than 10 that act better than plenty of adults, plenty of kids also act irresponsible. If this 10 year old kid was causing trouble they deserved the cops getting called on them
Familiar-Crow8245@reddit
That's really going to help! The kids were in a safe place, and it is not a big deal. A 10 year old is grown enough to keep the other two out of trouble. Next, they'll be arresting people for going to the bathroom and leaving the oldest kid to watch his brothers and sisters while they're gone.
jaxs_sax@reddit
He left his job interview at 1:30pm and left his kids at McDonald’s at 4:30 to go deliver a “back pack”
ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)
His “back pack” is absolutely none of your business.
If his kids are healthy and fine then he’s a good father despite delivering a backpack.
jaxs_sax@reddit
I think the issue was him saying he was at an interview while his kids were at McDonald’s which was a lie
ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)
Delivering backpacks for profit is a job
jaxs_sax@reddit
Okay pal
ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)
I’m not your pal, buddy!
MaraBlaster@reddit
You don't leave 3 kids, age 10, 6 AND 1 (!!!), at a restaurant, in public, ALONE!
He should've left them at home or with a friend/neighbor, not make them someone elses problem, especially workers.
McDonalds here at my place even has a sign saying that they take no responsibility for what your child does, they have to be supervised by the parents at all times.
boogaloobruh@reddit
What I want to know is how much of a piece of work is the mother than an unemployed father got custody?
RichardStrocher@reddit
There’s an update and he was not there for a job.
cdslayer111@reddit
A ten year old is more than capable and f watching them.
ricajo24601@reddit
This is one of the reasons I hate modern society. Chose to call him in rather than help him out. My grandma's generation would've offered to sit with those kids. It takes a village, but we no longer have a village. We are all on our own, but in reality, we need each other.
bloodyNASsassin@reddit
It's sad that we are taught we can and should do everything on our own. No wonder people feel so isolated in the world today.
SocialAnchovy@reddit
We’re all alone and on our own.
INTJ_life@reddit
That's what I prefer when it comes to someone's choice to raise a child. By all means raise as many as you want--but do it yourself. Your choices are your responsibly--not mine.
Internal_Holiday_552@reddit
Having a child isn't really a choice for a lot of people, it's a mistake that happens (often when they aren't thinking clearly) who's consequences are bringing a whole human into being.
Unfortunately not being mature enough to control your own fertility = having full responsibility over a whole ass persons upbringing.
With the overturning of roe v wade it is even less a choice, not that abortions are inexpensive or emotionally easy to choose to do.
INTJ_life@reddit
Unless you are raped you have a choice to have sex and potentially create the child. Accidents happen (I think abortion should be legal in every state with no restrictions, IMO), but none the less people know sex can lead to kids. It all starts with a choice of the individual and all consequences should end there too.
Internal_Holiday_552@reddit
Parenting a child shouldn't be a punishment for having sex.
That is cruel to the child
Not to mention that an unwanted child whose life is a punishment to their parents as a consequence for their irresponsible behavior isn't going to get taught responsibility.
INTJ_life@reddit
Making poor choices shouldn’t mean others are punished for your choices.
Internal_Holiday_552@reddit
Having a poor choice maker as a parent is a punishment to the child.
INTJ_life@reddit
True, but that's the parent's cross to bear.
Internal_Holiday_552@reddit
No, that's what I'm saying. It's the childs cross to bear
Rubes2525@reddit
Not really a choice? Lmao, they chose to have sex. They chose to cum inside, they chose not to wear a condom. Nobody should act like they're the pullout king. If you don't want kids and lack some very basic self control, then get yourself sterilized.
SoggyGrayDuck@reddit
It's also why they want to destroy the family. You need to depend on the state for situations like this if you don't have a close extended family. It's fucked that they're encouraging young people to break away and disown family over stupid political or other big picture issues that shouldn't affect how a family works together.
To me the saddest part is the fact he had absolutely no one in his life who could help for that short of a time period. Why did society let this happen?
DrooshBagggg@reddit
In today’s world, I wouldn’t want to accept the responsibility of a complete stranger’s kids out of fear of them getting hurt and then being sued by this guy and some scummy trial lawyer looking to make money.
danneskjold85@reddit
That's probably the thinking of the McDonald's management as well.
ricajo24601@reddit
Correct. Such things are the root of most of our problems. My aunt died in surgery from a medical error. My uncle was bombarded by lawyers encouraging him to sue. Shit happens, and no money will bring her back. No wonder healthcare is so expensive. A good chunk of the cost of operation I covering liabilities.
libertarianinus@reddit
30 to 5000 years ago, this would not be a problem. Thank you media and social media. 10 is kind of young, 12 was the norm back in the day.
Bascome@reddit
They used to take lost kids to McDonald’s at the zoo. Much younger than 10. This was a solution for lost kids. Parents were not arrested when they came to claim us.
bclucas18@reddit
Beautifully put
r0ttedAngel@reddit
Some context found in this article here
MundaneImage13@reddit
It's the 1 year old that has me concerned. There is no way a kid that young should be left without a teenager to look over them. Yeah there was the 10 year old, but that is still too young to look over a 1 year old.
However, I don't see a good option for the dad either. It seems he is trying his best in a shitty situation.
camwtss@reddit
sorry, but this is definitely grounds for child endangerment. he left for nearly 2 hours & the eldest one was only 10? it doesnt really matter if he went to a job interview, or a strip club, anything could have happened to those kids.
aahjink@reddit
Leaving them at home - sure. Leaving them at someone else’s property- in this case McDonald’s- not OK. Other people’s unsupervised kids can be an absolute pain in the ass, and it’s not McDonald’s duty to watch them. If an employee kicked them out - which they have a right to do - the story would be how terrible McDonalds is for kicking an unattended 1 year old out of the store.
Dad fucked up here, but arrest isn’t the answer.
quasiburneraccount@reddit
He did nothing wrong.
r0ttedAngel@reddit
Oh I absolutely agree. I was just throwing some more info on the situation into the void that is Reddit
Frigoris13@reddit
Hold on. How does a 24 year old have a 10 year old? Not saying he did anything wrong because he didn't. But having to raise kids when you're 14 yourself is unimaginable. Good on him for trying to provide.
cfreddy36@reddit
I had a coworker who fathered a child at 12yo. Some people live very different lives.
throwawaydbbdbdhdb@reddit
probably his step son? still, very fucked up all around. He did no wrong.
safety3rd@reddit
Shame there was no possible option C
GoBeWithYourFamily@reddit
Give the kids marijuana and telling them to chill at home. Sounds like a plan, man.
Upstairs-Brain4042@reddit
You do realize that there is more to libertarianism than just do pot and sit around on our ass.
5fd88f23a2695c2afb02@reddit
Not in a Libertarian forum, especially if it involved means tested government support for helping struggling parents get the basic needs met of their kids.
zebzdb@reddit
Does he have a go fund me or something similar?
ManagementRemote5513@reddit
Yeah, this story is fake.
pizzagangster1@reddit
Hey you left your kids alone, now we are gonna make you leave your kids alone!
Guardian-Boy@reddit
If it was just the ten year old for a little while, sure. But a one year old? Nah. Job interviews can last up to an hour or more in some cases, leaving a one year old alone for that long is straight up negligence.
jaxs_sax@reddit
His job interview was 3 hours before he left them at McDonald’s
beigers@reddit
I used to babysit an infant when I was 11 at midnight. Honestly don’t see an issue with this in the grander scheme of things given the few choices this man seemed to have. Maybe childcare canceled 15 minutes before the interview. We can’t know.
At the end of the day, they were in public and surrounded by people who could have intervened if it was truly needed and I doubt the 10 (and maybe the 6 year old) would have allowed themselves to be abducted without a fight. If he had shitty choices at least he chose the better one. Whoever put him in prison is an idiot.
TheM0nkB0ughtLunch@reddit
Also they were in a McDonald’s. Nothing was going to happen to those kids. Still, I wouldn’t dream of leaving my kids there like that. I would have at the very least asked a worker there and offered to pay them what I could.
beigers@reddit
That’s actually a great solution - McDonalds probably runs at least some kind of criminal background check. Offer to double their shift pay and you’d probably find a few workers willing to keep an eye out.
ssaall58214@reddit
He is trying to do better for his kids and he gets knocked down. And having been 11 and babysat 3 month olds I find this ridiculous.
sahovaman@reddit
And overseas we have folks in the 'Nordic' countries who leave infants unattended outside IN PUBLIC, and IN WINTER, and it's totally acceptable. 10 is CERTAINLY old enough to watch over the two younger ones in a car, or they're smart enough to go get dad if theres an issue.
arrrValue@reddit
Man post this dudes gofundme. That’s some hot bullshit
spacegh0stX@reddit
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen someone try to defend. You are an idiot
ENVYisEVIL@reddit (OP)
ronswansonsego@reddit
The more visibility on this, the better. That man did the right thing. He deserves a gofundme cash out bro. Go fund that man. That dad. Doin’ the right thing. Respect.
NMitch1994@reddit
Amazing. Maybe there's more details to this story, but on the surface, this is just insane. Sad that he had no one to help him watch his kids while he went to the job interview. At least he's trying to provide for his kids. Hell, I was almost raised by my older siblings and they were maybe 10 - 12 while I was a baby.
Meanwhile, CPS will be called on some POS crackhead mom whose passed out and needles are on the floor, but the kid won't be taken away. I work in a homeless housing program and I've seen it before. God forbid a man leave his kids at a McDonald's because he has no other options and he's actually trying to get a job. In my field, someone getting an actual job and not just sitting around getting high off of their disability check is worth standing up and clapping for.
EtherCase@reddit
I hope he got the job!!!!
dcmathproof@reddit
Man.... If I'm at a McDonald's (shudder) and a bunch of kids are causing a ruckus.... It's no wonder somebody called.... Leave em at home, or with granny or something... What is the manager at the "restaurant" supposed to do here... Let em go play in traffic?? It's not the governments business... But it's not McDonald's problem to babysit for him....
StuntsMonkey@reddit
If the dude was 24, and the oldest is 10, he became a dad way too early in life.
It sounds to me that maybe not all decisions made were the best, but a dad that is trying is better than leaving 3 children parentless and still without an income and at the mercy of the social system potentially.
I wish there was more context for what was going on, but I'd lean towards arresting the dad is probably not the way to go here.
Frigoris13@reddit
Having a kid at 14? That is not the best but it is not the worst. That 10 year old must have seen their dad working so hard to fight for them. I would interview him just to see.
Empty-Back-207@reddit
I agree that it's no one's business. However, he probably should have left the kids at home and not made them a strangers problem.
magichronx@reddit
...Or the stranger that called the police could have minded their own business...
The 1 year old is going to sit in the carrier (and probably sleep for most of the 90 minutes dad was away), and the 6 and 10 year old can play around for a while. At 10 years old you're in 5th grade, he should be more than capable of being alone with his little brothers/sisters for 90mins
Critical-Syrup5619@reddit
Yet somehow sending small unaccompanied children to an airport to travel cross-country alone is socially acceptable. Double standards AF
gatornatortater@reddit
Is it still? After seeing posts like the above for the last decade I'm thinking it probably isn't anymore.
Critical-Syrup5619@reddit
No it certainly is. At least acceptable enough to where you won't get arrested for it.
aed38@reddit
How do you have a 10th old kid at age 24? I bet the statistics on 14yo fathers doesn’t look good.
Spastic_jellyfish@reddit
He was fucking trying. Give him a damn break
Generic_Username7921@reddit
First kid at 14.
Three kids at 26.
No Job.
No Car.
No one he trusts to watch his babies for a few hours.
You can say that he's not the smartest, but this is clearly a good man who is trying to right by his children, and provide a childhood he probably never got. And does the government see a man struggling and offer help? No, it kicks him while he's down, and creates another fatherless household.
We really don't critique the government enough.
gumby_twain@reddit
I disagree with the post title.
If the man had left his kids home, it’s not the government’s business. I’m not going to debate the wisdom of a 10yo babysitting a 1yo, but I respect that sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
On the other hand, dumping the kids in public made it the public’s business.
Snipermann02@reddit
Yeah, people have way too much faith in the public.
Leaving the kids at home is the logical thing to do, why on earth he needed to drop them off in an unsecure place is weird.
Unattended kids are an endangerment to themselves. How do people know they weren't just abandoned there?
DixieNormas011@reddit
Maybe home is a 15 minute drive away and the McDonald's is on the same block? Leave them at home for an hour+ alone, or get them some lunch and have your 10yr old keep an eye on and entertain his siblings in the McDonald's playplace for 15 minutes. Sucks for him he didn't have any other options.
I don't know, maybe ask the 10 year old kid? Lol, taking the dude to jail over this seems wildly extreme to those of us who grew up in the 80s and 90s....we were alone for hours on a regular basis
Snipermann02@reddit
15 minutes is a literal stone toss away, it's not crazy. And get them lunch then take them back home it's not crazy.
Yeah, cause kids don't misunderstand shit all the time.
"It's ok timmy, I'll come back soon", that kid will believe the parent will be back for like 3 days before they think something is up.
The 80s and 90s were so much safer than it is now.
Trust me, I'm a libertarian, but this is a stupid argument. Maybe not jail time but bro definitely needed to know not to just leave his kids unattended in a public place. What if the area they live in is a high crime area?
CuppieWanKenobi@reddit
No, the 80s and 90s were not safer. I was there.
Jotro2@reddit
Its Augusta. It's a high crime place.
NaturalCarob5611@reddit
Because 10 year olds can talk?
DrMaxwellSheppard@reddit
Because the average McDonald's manager can and should trust everything a random 10 year old says?
NaturalCarob5611@reddit
If the 10 year old tells me to invest in meme coins I'm probably not going to trust him, but if he says his dad went to an interview and he'll be back soon I'd probably let them hang around for a while before I called CPS.
SnappyDogDays@reddit
Being a GenXer who's parents didn't do this?
RailLife365@reddit
In Missouri, a seven year old can care for siblings without some alphabet agency overstepping and tearing apart a family.
Critical-Syrup5619@reddit
Right, these people commenting seriously are not even close to libertarians. Everyone's a "libertarian" until they want government intervention. Nobody ever heard of a latchkey kid? I know 10 year olds that are more than capable of doing this. Anyone who thinks what happened is right in any way is scum.
Critical-Syrup5619@reddit
Anyone judging this man is coming from a place of privilege and ignorance. I'd much rather be within arms reach of my kids than have them be all the way at home. Hopefully somebody has started a GoFundMe for him.
If you are judging this man or saying he had it coming etc etc, you're not even close to a libertarian.
MedicMalfunction@reddit
Anyone who says a ten year old can safely watch a one year old has clearly never been a parent. I’m not saying dude deserves prison time, but this was highly irresponsible and anyone arguing otherwise is coming from a place of complete ignorance.
MillennialSenpai@reddit
If your ten year old can't watch their siblings in a public place for a bit then I'm sorry your kid went to public school.
RailLife365@reddit
Definitely sounds like some government uneducation is involved there. Lol
BoatZnHoes@reddit
My son could 100 percent handle this
TeaMasterTodd@reddit
I’ve done it personally. Happy say she’s still alive 26 years later. What is clear, is you haven’t been in dire straits to make that decision. Which Im happy for you. But this may be your area of ignorance.
spacegh0stX@reddit
Ya and people do stupid, dangerous shit everyday and don’t die from it. Doesn’t mean it’s not stupid and dangerous. That’s totally irresponsible parenting and just cuz it didn’t burn you doesn’t make you not a moron for doing it.
frodo_mintoff@reddit
An act might be "stupid and dangerous" and yet still not enliven the state's (very limited) right to use violence to punish the act.
I agree that people should take care of their children and this may even, in certain circumstances, make it necessary for the state to intervene. However, generally speaking, the central holding of Libertarianism is that we should be extremely hesitant to extend the power of the state and that accordingly certain actions, though immoral may not reach the threshold to warrant state intervention.
spacegh0stX@reddit
This is child endangerment and is absolutely something that should be intervened and punishable by
Spe3dGoat@reddit
I would never personally leave a 1 year old with anyone but an adult. This is my personal level of caution. Other people have different levels.
Calling this child endangerment is a stretch but context matters. And punishment by default ?
What about just talking to them about making better choices or helping them understand their options when it comes up in the future ?
What libertarian is like IMMEDIATELY DETAIN THAT MAN
jfc
jenguinaf@reddit
Not just that I was babysitting by 10 and at 11 had a baby I watched. For money. And i’m not THAT old. My kid is 9 and if push came to shove she absolutely could easily keep a 1 year old alive and safe for a bit.
Fundementalquark@reddit
10 year olds are plenty capable of watching their kid brothers and sisters.
That what happened for 1000s of years while parents work.
Oo0o8o0oO@reddit
10 year old kids worked in factories not long ago as well. I’m not sure we are still using “It was ok years ago.” as a good excuse for what can be done today.
Fundementalquark@reddit
Straw man
That’s not the discussion here.
Spe3dGoat@reddit
how can "what people used to do" be a strawman when you brought it up you knuckle dragging condom tip ?
Eezyville@reddit
They didn't say whether or not it was OK but that a 10yo was "capable" which they are in a certain circumstances. Like another poster stated, it depends on how long they're babysitting, where they are, and how may kids they're watching.
Oo0o8o0oO@reddit
Sure in a vacuum, this is fine at his house.
This would be a different argument if he didn’t drop off his kids with a business that doesn’t offer free childcare services. Maybe even make this argument at a community park, but at a McDonalds? You don’t just dump your liability on someone else and expect that to go well.
gog_magog@reddit
Don’t think you can make a blanket statement like this. Plenty of 10 year olds could do this for 30-60 minutes, especially in a public place where help is readily attainable (assuming this was a desperate situation and not something that’s done regularly). Also, a 12 month old and a 23 month old are both “1”, but there is a massive difference there too. Too lazy to look up the article but that’s a pretty critical detail here. A 12 month old is basically still a baby that probably can’t walk and a 23 month old is a toddler running around and playing.
DrMaxwellSheppard@reddit
Thats the point. You can't. So how is the random McDonald's manager who was tasked with handling this supposed to assess if the 10 year old can handle it?
If there is no information for them ahead of time they pretty much have to assume the worst case scenario.
WingCompetitive2678@reddit
As a parent, it depends on the 10 year old and for how long they need to watch the 1 year old, and where they are watching them. There are a lot of situational variables that can make it a reliable safe option for a short amount of time. In a McDonalds like this situation? Yea, not so much.
jerkhappybob22@reddit
How about from a place of struggle or with no options. Have you ever been in a situation where had 3 mouths to feed and your struggling to feed yourself. I agree it ain't the best option but it's not like he left them at a mall to walk around. Or sitting Ina hot car.
Important_Entry_5825@reddit
I know 10 year olds that can watch a 1 year old. I know 10 year olds that can't watch a cat. I know McDonalds locations that I would do this at, and I know McDonalds locations that I wouldn't do this at.
Context is everything.
badskinjob@reddit
I was thinking it's different if they're at home because there its less danger and no strangers, then I realized they don't have a home phone anymore so they couldn't call 911 if something happens.... Now I don't know what the answer is. I do know that id hire the guy and help him file for daycare help through the state. Imagine how bad he must have felt leaving them there while trying to build a life for them just to get arrested.
bastiat_was_right@reddit
It's none of governments business in either case
TheGreatServiceBob@reddit
Accidental Dr. Seuss.
user_1729@reddit
/deliberate dr. seuss.
SlammingPussy420@reddit
Red fish
Fundementalquark@reddit
Exactly o
Indifferent-Owl@reddit
10 is a bit young to watch a 1 yr old.
12 is the age I'm okay witha 12 yr old watching younger siblings but the kids would have to be atleast 3. Not 1.
Round-Boss-1435@reddit
He was probably in a car seat
Indifferent-Owl@reddit
Yeah, maybe. My brain went str8 to those play places. Idk if mcD's still has them though
abr0414@reddit
I can see how this is a public concern. I can also see that as a DA one would drop the charges immediately.
Round-Boss-1435@reddit
Hopefully
kindofamediumdeal@reddit
Free-range childhood is a thing of the past.
bodhiseppuku@reddit
"But they were in the ball pit." He said. "They go in the play center and stay for hours if I let them.".
... Sir, this is a restaurant, not a daycare.
VitalMaTThews@reddit
Maybe leave them at home though? That’s kind of a fucked up thing to do to a McDonalds employee
VexLaLa@reddit
Gotta love the justice system. Punish the hardworking and let the criminals walk free.
Ravenlock@reddit
The slew of "nothing's going to happen to those kids!" comments is just wild to me. In a best case scenario? Probably fine. They hang out for an hour and everything is fine. And if he'd left them at home (yes, I understand that may not have been practical for whatever reason) it would be nobody's business. But the moment he left them in a public business it became the business of the employees there, and the moment something goes wrong that becomes a completely unreasonable situation. Those employees don't know if that ten year old can care for the infant. They don't know if the 6 year old has allergies, or what to do if the infant suddenly has a medical issue. And it can't legally be the 10 year old's responsibility to know, and it shouldn't fall to some teenager working his first real job behind the counter.
"2 generations ago this was totally normal" and two generations ago the father would know the people who ran what would have been a local diner personally and they would have known his kids by name. To be clear, I am not saying that taking the father away from his kids and incarcerating him is the right end result here. But the people saying this was no big deal for him to do are being completely delusional.
Wtfjushappen@reddit
My 10yo son is great, and really responsible but when you see what size and ability they truly have, you know they aren't able to watch a1yo. I would leave my view at home for maybe 30 minutes but not at a McDonald's.
Spe3dGoat@reddit
I would let a 10 year old watch a 1 year old for every minute of his age. 10 min at the MAX.
However arresting this guy is ridiculous.
Wtfjushappen@reddit
Completely agree.
fed875@reddit
Sounds like this man was desperate for a job and didn’t have a choice. Just an unfortunate situation.
Wtfjushappen@reddit
I get that. But you have got to know at least 1 person and if you don't, tell the employer that your childcare fell through last minute and would like to reschedule or have the kids in the lobby during the interview.
ryanskewl@reddit
Maybe we should try alleviating the issue instead of making a bigger one.
Spe3dGoat@reddit
lot of fake libertarians in here cannot grasp that maybe extending some grace might make things work out better for everyone
ConscientiousPath@reddit
McDonalds has a right to kick the kids out, but the arrest is stupid
MrBeerandBBQ@reddit
If this comes out as the father went to a casino or bar, I guarantee these responses will change.
Bagain@reddit
I once worked with a young woman who had a child at 16. She worked hard to raise that boy and was doing a great job. One day she mentioned that he was next door (I think he was 11 at the time), it was a big kids store… toysRus or what ever. I told her she better go get his ass, one “concerned parent” find out he’s alone and you’ll have CPS in your life until he’s 18. He hung out in the break, watching tv after that. Can’t trust the state to not destroy your life…
Impressive-Fortune82@reddit
Creating juvenile criminals in realtime
x___rain@reddit
What a shameful case. Of course, they must release the man. Taking the father away from these children is the real crime.
petertompolicy@reddit
There has to be somewhere people can take their kids for short-term.
IKEA?
Mundane-Rip-7502@reddit
My uncle was driving a tractor on a farm at 10 years old. I was doing it at about the same age myself
nasty_napkin@reddit
Well, “arrested” isn’t the same as “put in prison”. So maybe CPS just thought this warranted a little investigation into the kids’ wellbeing. But hey, at least he chose somewhere with a playplace! Better than dumping them off at Lowe’s
lesmobile@reddit
Were the kids being shitty and somebody got sick of it and called the cops? And the cops thought it made more sense to charge the dad than to give the kids disturbing tje peace tickets? This keeps getting pushed as an overprotective bussibody thing, but maybe it was just kids being shitty in mcdonalds.
1to1Representation@reddit
Just so everyone knos, CPS workers will state that is erring on the side of caution to remove a child from a home where they might be in danger. They don't think of the consequences.