ULPT Request: What jobs are fully remote, pay $15+/hr, you can set your own hours and work simultaneously with another job?
Posted by AdAutomatic3739@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 93 comments
This is unethical because I'm looking for something that I can "half ass" while on the clock for another remote job. Something where they expect you to work 20-40 hours a week, but you're only actually working 10-20.
If it helps at all, I do have a bachelor's degree in economics but I'm guessing most/all of these jobs are not jobs that require a degree.
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
The double employment options really open up if you find a way to be self employed for one of the jobs. The tough times come when a job has a crunch time or something and you need to work harder for a bit. It's hard to carve that out without neglecting the other job enough that you get fired. If the other job is a self employed job, you can get away with neglecting it for a time because you are your own boss.
droideka222@reddit
This is the way to go-
Even if it’s advertised hybrid, call the bluff and ask which says the team is coming in in person-
Look for side hustles- airbnb, turo, spacer; spinlistee are all ways to make your existing assets for you. I used to rent a 2 bedroom house and rent both rooms on airbnb, that’s how I saved up enough down payment for my first house at 3.5%. I bought an expensive car and made over $20k renting it in Turo in the first two years.
And now I have.3 jobs, one is 2 Wednesdays a month, and the other is hybrid but only going in as needed because the other team also doesn’t go in every week—- for the 2 days but only on important meetings. I outsource one job to a student at $20/hr and still make over $15k a month just by doing the two jobs that I have, working about 25-35 hours a week: I’m amenable to outsource cooking and cleaning and pay $25-30/he for help so that I can have a life- make time with my kids and do my workouts etc.
I’m on a path to early retirement (coastfire)by 45 thanks to this hustle culture.
This is the time to hustle and don’t let anyone tell you to follow the straightforward path, question everything- do something and ask forgiveness later, I see a lot of people like to do things by the book- it certainly doesn’t help them, cos they are back at 20/hr where I am making $70/hr by lying on my resume saying I know something I know a smattering off, I make an interview script that I read from during my interviews and then study on the job. People can’t fathom the idea of lying on the resume, of lying in an interview, you best believe they are not making $350k a year and are wondering why their boot camp didn’t give them the promised jobs.
You need to give the recruiters and companies what they want to hear, and sell them the product (you) with confidence. They don’t want a goody two shoes. They want someone that can get the job done.
At one point I was doing 4 simultaneous jobs (short term contracts) I just said yes to every single recruiter than called me, put anything they wanted me to, got pulled up with multiple bg checks but still made it thru with bluffing and got the project, found hacks like doing c2c contracts to reduce scrutiny , and making it work in this tough economy. You can’t fake credentials but you can fake experience and I highly suggest you do it!
Say you know coding, say you know project management, see if you can qualify for the interview, see if you can pay someone to help you do the work after hours, grow into the role instead of expecting someone to take a chance on you.
Pm billing rate is 50-64/hr , coding is even higher.
Many times I put the experience in there that they want to see, I get the job and then I’m studying it with ChatGPT or YouTube so I can speak Meaningful to and help the company with my job and presence .
It requires a large paradigm shift… and culture shift.
WSB_Fucks@reddit
Lot of gold nuggets in this comment
droideka222@reddit
But you can also look at medical coding or transcriptioning, both pay decent and are fully remote. Or can be
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
It's viable for sure, and there are multiple ways to do over employment. Rule of thumb is if it's accessible, high paying and remote, odds are they will make you work for it and it'll be tough to squeeze in another job.
But you never know, and once you're comfortable with the idea that you might get fired, there's not much to lose by trying.
beathuggin@reddit
It works best with jobs in 2 different sectors.
One where you talk: sales, support, etc.
The second where you predominantly type: data entry.
If you can multitask then this is the way to go.
dingleberry51@reddit
Yep. I technically have a full time job, a freelance job and a side hustle. I can do all three during my full time job hours. I make just about 6 figures instead of only 70k if I just had the full time job
Averagebass@reddit
"Yeah my side hustle easily brings in $40k a year"
"so what do you do?"
then they never reply
CUCUC@reddit
they probably give five minute handies behind the harbor freight
agreedis@reddit
You could give 2 2.5 minute handles in the same time. #grindculture
pucspifo@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-hUV9yhqgY
agreedis@reddit
Man, I really gotta watch that show lol
DialDownTheCenter@reddit
Does it come with a free bucket?
dingleberry51@reddit
Tbf they’re both things that 99.99% of people couldn’t do. Freelance work is writing in a niche field, and I also play online poker
ethical_arsonist@reddit
Tell more!
Frozenbbowl@reddit
That's a lot of words without actually answering the question
Aggravating-Exit-660@reddit
This should be stickied on r/OverEmployed
Budget-Stable2777@reddit
This
Ok-Assumption-1083@reddit
is
Ok-Assumption-1083@reddit
SPARTA!
jonraexercise@reddit
That somehow helps a lot and yet doesn’t answer the actual question
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
Agreed lol. Sorry for the chaos.
Dracekidjr@reddit
This. Think of it as one real job and one side gig. Even if you lose the side gig, you will still come out alright.
Ok-Respond-9007@reddit
If you're working that much on a salaried job, you need to find new work.
I have a salary, make good money, and never work a minute over 40 hours.
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
I'm saying that most people doing this work over forty combined between two full time jobs, not one.
There's a misconception that most over employed people are juggling two jobs and not working a minute over 40. Some of us pull this off, and those are the stories you hear the most, but it's the tip of the iceberg. Most of us can't get two full time jobs to fit that well and it ends up being over 40 total. Just trying to manage expectations. Many look at that barrier to fitting two in 40 and think it's too hard so they don't try at all.
Ok-Respond-9007@reddit
For me, if I have to work over 40 hours total between the multiple jobs, I'll find another one that makes that possible. 40 hours is a limit for me that I simply won't do. If they want to fire me for, go for it. I'll milk every penny until that point. Remember, if you're double stacking work every job is disposable (though in my case my primary job will always come first because it pays significantly more)
Initially, sure, you have to put in a bit or work for a month or so until you're locked in...but if you know what you're doing, most corporate America jobs can be handled in an hour or two a day, tops.
Source: I've been lazy as fuck throughout the 20 plus years I've worked in corporate America.
Also, even in a worst case scenario, it takes like 5-6 months to get fired from corporate America work.
Ok-Respond-9007@reddit
I am likely getting laid off in the next few months. I've been halfassing my job for months while I work on side gigs and setting myself up.
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
It's definitely a risk with this life! Hope you can drag it out as long as possible.
Quick_Upstairs_4178@reddit
Is it possible to get a remote job if you’re from a third world country? Really trying my best to find but nothing substantial so far.Any advice would be appreciated 🫠
saggerk@reddit
I knew a person who did two fully salaried positions at the same time. They had their 9 am standup meeting at 9 am eastern and had their other 9 am standup meeting at 10 am.
Basically two different time zones working fully remote, full time, and getting around 360k per year total
guntotingbiguy@reddit
I did this as a remote accountant (leadership) and part-time bookkeeping job and made $320k. Was too much work, but it was good money.
HellisTheCPA@reddit
What part time bookkeeping role brings in more than 30k annually?? (And if you're making 250+ no one is typically free enough nor willing enough to work a side gig)
guntotingbiguy@reddit
Should clarify - the bookkeeping roles were sole finance offices, essentially acting as CFO/Finance Director roles.
HellisTheCPA@reddit
Oh yeah that's a lot different, and makes more sense...I thought you meant AR/AP sort of stuff. not that there's anything wrong if someone is doing that job but obviously if you're working a high stress management job the last side gig I would take on is bookkeeping.
The only side gig I could tolerate is something completely different like bartending and event gigs which I do, just to talk to people who don't know what lease accounting is and don't care. 😂
guntotingbiguy@reddit
Good paying bookkeeping jobs exist. Look beyond the QBO Pros. You're not wrong, I was grinding and not happy.
envybelmont@reddit
I had a former colleague doing this with his old company. He was looking for a permanent fully remote job during Covid since he knew his old company would be RTO at first opportunity. He found a great gig and just planned to work both until the old job called for RTO.
Then, when Covid fears died down, his old company management realized his job was easily done remotely and they could save on rent. He was converted to full remote and given a $200 a month WFH stipend to top it off. He worked both jobs for about 2 years before the new company promoted him to a level that he couldn’t really do both jobs.
BLU3SKU1L@reddit
I have a current colleague that would get hired for a new job, take vacation time, and figure out how feasible it would be to do both jobs at the same time during that orientation week. If not, he’d keep showing up for the job he liked more and repeat the process.
Low_Reporter_3765@reddit
Excellent tip.
rednazgo@reddit
I feel like a lot of marketing jobs for big companies are like this. You basically have a shit ton of meetings where people say a lot of things that sound very important.
I personally know of 3 people like this and they all are usually in a meeting or doing nothing in between while waiting for the next meeting.
TheAVnerd@reddit
Marketing/Advertising for sure. From 2018-2023 I was full time at an agency making around 130k and then had 3-4 regular clients on the side. All remote and I cleared about 200k most of those years.
Some weeks I would need to throttle down my side work to meet the demands of my staff position but about 70-80% of the year I would split my days and do 4-5 hours for them and 4-5 hours for me.
i-piss-excellence32@reddit
How does someone get into this?
TheAVnerd@reddit
I’m a video person (shoot and edit) but this type of thing typically works for a few other roles like Social Media Managers, UX People, whatever they are calling website developers now, designers, and copywriters.
Typically you’ll work at an agency on multiple clients (like Geico, Panasonic, Dunkin…) and then your freelance stuff will be for smaller agencies or more typically directly with clients/companies.
nymphettesea@reddit
I’m interested in how you did this could I PM you?
TheAVnerd@reddit
Sure.
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ImBonRurgundy@reddit
Software developer for a small startup with a non-technical founder They pay won’t be great, but you drag out every change they want you to make since they have no idea how long something should take
“Hey can you change the ‘start a trial’ button from green to blue”
“Sure, i think I can just about squeeze that into the next sprint, but it will delay everything else by 3-4 weeks”
purple_sphinx@reddit
I knew my devs did this!
Iainfletcher@reddit
This is a terrible answer
internet_commie@reddit
Some startup-bosses also believe that complicated software changes can be done in an instant. And don't require testing.
So it can be a tossup.
MissingMoneyMap@reddit
So long as you don’t plan on lasting long
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NeonLoveGalaxy@reddit
I'm also interested in this. Can you please provide more information?
AdAutomatic3739@reddit (OP)
This is EXACTLY what I'm looking for... Any idea how hard it is to get accepted?
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TryingToCatchThemAII@reddit
Sounds like you want a online live customer inquiry job.
BLU3SKU1L@reddit
I did this for a popular phone case company during covid. My department never went remote though so even though the office was essentially empty, I still would have stuff come up that interfered with me answering chat requests and some people take that job very seriously. I was consistently shamed for my poor numbers. :/
impostershop@reddit
Where do you find those tho?
TryingToCatchThemAII@reddit
Almost every single business online has them… just go to different websites, scroll down to the bottom find some contact info and send in a resume.
spookypumpkinini@reddit
yes exactly this
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I'm a guy :(
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I have a decent body, but to my understanding you really gotta be smoking hot if you're a guy and wanna make real money
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AdAutomatic3739@reddit (OP)
Well thanks for the suggestion... If I could make even an extra $1k/month, I'd totally be down to do an onlyfans. I'm gonna do more research
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Psylix@reddit
I don't know what the requirements are, but my gf does medical coding for nursing homes from home and works part time at a hospital. Pretty much works at her own pace juggling that job, the hospital and nursing school.
burntkumqu4t@reddit
What type of coding does she do for nursing homes? I’m a webdev student, still early in my learning, but I’m also trying to scout opportunities for myself when I have a bit of a better handle on things
nightwinghugs@reddit
medical coding is not programming
burntkumqu4t@reddit
Well guess I’m just stupid lmaoo
Thrill__505@reddit
I’m like 99 percent sure medical coding is just for billing purposes like “coding” advil code 1111 as an example
TheIronSoldier2@reddit
I think they're talking about a different type of coding.
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88bauss@reddit
Try to get a gov job lol. Everything is half assed and most work 10-20 hours a week realistically.
Kellaniax@reddit
By gov job do you mean congressperson? Because I'm not aware of any other well paying government jobs that allow you to work 20 hours or less a week.
crosstheroom@reddit
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OverlappingChatter@reddit
Vipkid gets close. Depending on what you have to do in the other job, I could possibly be done simultaneously. It's independent contract work though
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BourbonSucks@reddit
i have a friend who is a customer service line for a busy healthcare company while also being internal techsupport for a large SaaS firm. Both allow her to say shes "away" and direct calls to the next in the rota yet collect her salary.
the stress does get to her, she feels like she cant fully support the tech support calls during the lunch hours that the healthcare job gets the most calls.
StarsEatMyCrown@reddit
I got lucky with my job as a caregiver. I'm a companion caregiver. When she sleeps (which is frequently on and off) I work on my business from my phone or iPad.
thereisnodaionlyzuul@reddit
I feel like everyone is looking for this golden situation right?
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NorthRoseGold@reddit
So I don't know of anything that is a job like that. But you could contract your skills out. And if you have some decent usable in demand skills $15 is very very low.
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