Pathway to Hawaiian Airlines

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Picklemerick23@reddit

I had a friend who flew 737s inter-island and Hawaiian wanted them to go get mainland 121 experience. I’d go for Horizon Air or a west coast regional for that experience so you can commute.

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Picklemerick23@reddit

I flew with a few FAs the other day that live in Maui. They’re LAX based. Hell when I was ORD based my flight was 3.5 hrs.

Back at the regionals I knew a FO who commuted HNL to DEN.

But don’t worry, it gets worse. At cargo I had mates that did Belgium to JFK, South Korea to Anchorage, Sydney, AU to LAX, and wait for it, Perth, A.U. to Miami.

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

Yeah that’s nuts. My plan is to hopefully get to a regional where I only have to do a one leg commute. I assume that holding a line will be much better than commuting reserve too obviously

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Picklemerick23@reddit

Then you’re applying to airlines with a SFO, SEA, or LAX base.

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Weasel474@reddit

Had an FO that did the Auckland-Boise commute. Did not envy him.

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No_The_White_Phone@reddit

Some people just want to torture themselves!

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12-7@reddit

Well... how are you planning on building the experience required to apply for a FO position? https://www.hawaiianairlines.com/careers/first-officer

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

Also not sure if it helps but I have a good connection there that could help me get an interview

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

😂 he’s my old house mate who’s a captain there and has done some other high impact work with the company

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whoaitsjello@reddit

Pretty much the only way to get in with us is through internal referral… super competitive, but not impossible.

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

Well that’s good to know. What advice do you have after getting my ATP?

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whoaitsjello@reddit

Hawaiian wants mainland experience. They won’t even hire guys from Aloha or APA. Their personal favorite is skywest.

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Ugh why lol? I don’t have any desire to go to Hawaiian really, I live about as far away from Hawaii as you can get in the states, just wondering why they have such a hard-on for the Mormon Air Force. This isn’t a dig against SkyWest pilots at all; we’re all just trying to build time however we can. they just seem kinda weird as a company

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Ludicrous_speed77@reddit

Their guys statistically do well in new hire training.

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InGeorgeWeTrust_@reddit

Large company flying to tons of different airports. One of, if not the best training program.

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

That’s exactly what I’m wondering. Once I hit ATP mins, can I just go to Lanai Air or another company here in the islands or should I go to regional since they prefer 121 experience?

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FragrantDaikon7048@reddit

You should be asking about getting hired at Alaska. Hawaiian will soon be a branding identity of Alaska Airlines. All employees will be Alaska, the radio call sign will be Alaska. You will interview in Seattle and bid for flying in any base. You may get Anchorage right out of training. You will show up to work and not know what the airplane is painted as unless you do a walk around. Coming soon… Hawaiian 737s and Alaska 787s.

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Silly-Ad5211@reddit

This is what I got from women in aviation. They raised their requirements to match that of Alaska. So right now competitive is 2500TT roughly and quality of time is everything so 121 will be the best and even better with 121 PIC. But Hawaiian the last couple years has been wanting people to leave Hawaii to get mainland flight experience so even getting picked from aloha was not gonna happen unless you flew elsewhere before. Just what I’m offering based on what I’ve seen with my friends that are there currently and what I’ve experienced at the conference.

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the info! Honestly grinding 1000 hours at a regional really isn’t too bad

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Silly-Ad5211@reddit

Yea of course! My friends there grinded out just a few hundred hours at regionals and got picked up after checking off that mainland flight time box. But gone are those days unfortunately. Best of luck to getting picked up though.

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Right-Suggestion-667@reddit

Could become a cadet with horizon and then flown to Alaska/hawaiian

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IAmABanana69420@reddit (OP)

I’ve heard flows are generally a bad idea because of how long it takes to actually be picked up by the flow to airline though right?

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Right-Suggestion-667@reddit

It’s the only “pathway” they have besides making your own

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sirpsychosexy8@reddit

I got hired there in ‘21 with 4000 hrs and 1000 part 121 PIC. Going to fly for a regional on the mainland is a tried and true approach. Ultimately getting hired at Alaska will likely be an equivalent achievement

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Hawaiiankinetings@reddit

Gotta go regionals in the States right now to get hired.

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ndem763@reddit

I wonder whether they'll even hire again before Alaska is in charge of recruiting

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rFlyingTower@reddit

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Hi all, I live in Hawaii and plan on staying here. I’m looking to see what it would take to be competitive as an applicant to be a FO here at Hawaiian Airlines. For starters I have prior military service and a bachelors degree. Do I need to head over to regional first or can I get some experience flying in the islands like Kamaka or Lanai Air or something similar to be competitive?

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