Potentially Historic Rainfall and flooding risk projected by NOAA for parts of the USA starting tomorrow
Posted by Nastyfaction@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 113 comments
Lifto_Jimbo@reddit
All this whiplashing of weather is going to make growing a stable crop damn near impossible in a few years
PaPerm24@reddit
I dont remember ever seeing a rainfall pattern that intense over such a wide area before.
https://www.pivotalweather.com/maps.php?ds=wpc&p=wpc_qpf_168h_p&r=conus
DelcoPAMan@reddit
Yeah, me neither.
But you'll see it more.
Pricycoder-7245@reddit
End of the world out here yet people acting like it’s another day
JustAtelephonePole@reddit
Those motherfuckers keep telling me over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, that they don’t believe we’re in the edge of destruction. I’m starting to think they’re stupid.
Bermuda_Mongrel@reddit
the world will survive, it's just got a fever of a species to rid itself of
RubyFacedParrot@reddit
I was watching the Weather Channel last night for some reason and the meteorologist was very animated while discussing the issue of just the sheer amount of water over such a large area. He went on to say even though your area isn't one of the highest predicted areas for rainfall, it would be catastrophic all over because the water just had nowhere to drain to.
Sad-Midnight8008@reddit
Me neither this is wild
sayn3ver@reddit
Weather forecasting and meteorology is mad woke yo. Let's defund it stat
Piriper0@reddit
The "bullseye" spot in those maps includes Ft. Campbell, KY, home of the 101st Airborne and... other units. Ft. Knox is in the red zone, and a lot of other bases are in the yellow zone. Some of those bases have specialized contributions to the US military, but Campbell is the "big one".
Tumbleweed-Artistic@reddit
The military is run by an alcoholic incompetent morning show host. There will not be a “robust” response.
Shaladox@reddit
I know it's a little bit selfish, but good god, I'm grateful it isn't hitting WNC that hard. We just passed six months out from Helene, we don't need another one.
... even if it might help with the wildfires...
EarthSurf@reddit
A warmer atmosphere carries a higher amount of water. This is like 5th grade level stuff, yet large swaths of the population don't even believe it's true to being with.
Few years back in Utah we had the holy grail of all winters — a whopping 903" of snow fell in the Upper Cottonwood Canyons — and that even might have underestimated it a bit. It was pure ecstasy for us skiers and snowboarders but I knew it had a sinister undercurrent, in the sense that even in one of the snowiest locations in North America, this was nearly double our normal average of 500".
Snow devoured three-story cabins, was so high that we were literally skiing and riding through the Aspen canopy in the glade runs. Tree wells were terrifyingly deep — like swallow you alive and never return. Roof avalanches from people cleaning off their cabins even killed a few folks. Just nutty stuff here.
As much as I loved that winter as a lifelong snowboarder, it wasn't even within the range of possibility without a rapidly warming planet juicing up the atmosphere. These kind of freaky anomalous weather events are going to continue and get worse and worse.
nogooduse@reddit
great post. i have to wonder why it was hidden until i licked on the little + sign.
EarthSurf@reddit
Yeah, it sucks being a downer but suppose it is what it is. Funny thing is all these ski resorts here in Utah kinda shifted their baseline for snowfall after two insanely anomalous seasons and will definitely feel the pain in the future as we head into the "bust" part of the boom/bust cycles that Climate Change will bring.
Only_Impression4100@reddit
I just opened my door in Nashville to let the dogs out and it was warm and humid, like moreso than it's been sitting during the day, not a great sign.
MarlanaS@reddit
I'm in Indianapolis and just went outside and it feels like summer. The humidity is crazy. It's only 61F but it feels much warmer.
Pardot42@reddit
I hope FEMA is staged to deploy personnel and other assistance.
Tearakan@reddit
Nope they've been gutted. Anyone affected here will probably be abandoned.
Berkamin@reddit
Then it is time for them to find out why their decision was a bad idea.
passenger_now@reddit
the voters really failed the Democratic party, didn't they?
... or, you know, maaaaybe it could make more sense to see it the other way around?
I'm reminded of my neighbor's kid who would berate the other kids for not liking her. She's 19 now and off to college; hopefully she has grown out of it.
Isaiah_The_Bun@reddit
Lol the democrats made me do it
nogooduse@reddit
The dems have become gop lite. the last election proved that they really need to offer more than "we're not Trump'.
MarcusXL@reddit
Don't worry, they will respond with great energy by blaming brown people, black people, and Democrats.
CaptainBirdEnjoyer@reddit
Hey don't forget about the homosexuals!
scummy_shower_stall@reddit
Your comment made me think of a video I saw a little while ago, some reporter asking the people affected by the floods last year if they had received any aid, something to that effect. The people largely said they've always been on their own and help each other, they'll do it again. And I thought of another comment I read in one of the subs where a redditor was canvassing in a conservative territory, using (what MAGA would consider) rather liberal points, but couching them neutrally and taking care to explain the civics behind their points. You know what the people all too often said? "Well, that makes a lot of sense, and I agree, but Trump is a good Christian, so I have to vote for him." I mean, wtf? So I think when they've run out of non-white people, then liberals, then women, they'll just blame 'Satan' and still vote Republican.
MarcusXL@reddit
I like to entertain the theory that American "Christianity" is secretly a demon-worshipping cult, like the evil cult in True Detective but it's nation-wide and involves most of the powerful people especially in Red States. I don't entirely believe it, but would they act any differently if it was true?
roehnin@reddit
??????????
Do these people know nothing about the man?
choodudetoo@reddit
They know nothing about the Religion.
From
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/08/1192663920/southern-baptist-convention-donald-trump-christianity
E_G_Never@reddit
I mean, the teachings were subversive at the time too. It's almost as if advocating for the poor and downtrodden has always made those with power uncomfortable
JulianMorganthau@reddit
Once they kill all the "others", it'll be a combination of "spiritual warfare" (i.e. demons) and "God is testing me" while still solidly voting for the Muskpublicans.
patrick95350@reddit
You're being entirely too cynical. It's important to have hope. Personally, I think they'll get angry and vote 50.1 to 49.9 for a Democrat exactly once, then return to voting for Republicans because Fox News tells them illegal immigrants from Papua New Guinea are stealing hubcaps or some other nonsense.
GlockAF@reddit
Specifically it’ll be Joe Bidens fault
RubyFacedParrot@reddit
Why would Obama do this to us?!
mooky1977@reddit
"You're on your own. Ask your state government bootstraps and steps on how to deploy them."
JulianMorganthau@reddit
"Thoughts and prayers".
But no cash. Need that for a new steeple and sound system.
Joe_Exotics_Jacket@reddit
Not completely. Still waiting for the RIF cuts and to figure out its final fate. That being said FEMA had a disaster declaration every 2 days last year so are stretched at best.
SeveralDrunkRaccoons@reddit
The voters there made sure to elect a climate change denying, FEMA-smashing president.
DruidicMagic@reddit
We don't need no stinkin FEMA when thoughts and prayers will suffice.
dak-sm@reddit
Nah. Bootstraps have been distributed for people to pull on themselves.
theCaitiff@reddit
Ha! As if they'd just give you bootstraps. Bootstrap distribution, that's socialism!
Master_Honey549@reddit
The Old River Control Structure is probably the most frequently imperiled and economically vital piece of mega engineering in the US. It’s a time bomb every year during the spring floods & I’d say people are generally unaware of the disaster that would occur if it were to be overtopped or undermined.
It prevents the main channel of the Mississippi River from diverting into the Atchafalaya drainage and to the Gulf via Morgan City. This would cut off the port of New Orleans and all of the petrochemical production facilities that line the river below the structure. If you want a good read on this check out John McPhee’s article ‘Atchafalaya’.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_River_Control_Structure
Graymouzer@reddit
Well, now I have new things to worry about.
Isaiah_The_Bun@reddit
Not worry about, plan for, prepare for.
nogooduse@reddit
another reason to be glad we've got solar power.
skeeter72@reddit
Watching folks live streaming unwarned tornado after unwarned tornado. Is the NWS completely broken now?
nogooduse@reddit
not broken, dismantled.
Rossdxvx@reddit
I am reminded of the scene in the HBO mini-series Chernobyl where Dyatlov sees graphite lying on the ground with his own eyes. "RBMK reactors don't explode." The cognitive dissonance within the human animal is just astonishing. I don't even know if we learn so much from crashing and burning. After enough people suffer and die, we just simply are forced not to do certain self-destructive/destructive things any longer because we no longer can. In that case, the sooner we collapse the better off future generations may actually be to have a one in a million chance of actually rebuilding upon the detritus of our own folly/ruined civilization. Of course, that also means most people alive today not making it.
Until then, people will continue to suffer and die and there will be... indifference if not outright hostility to it.
nogooduse@reddit
Americans learn only from catastrophes and not from experience.
––– Teddy Roosevelt
AbominableGoMan@reddit
Don't worry, you will be seeing fewer and fewer posts like these as NOAA gets cut by fascists.
nogooduse@reddit
the plan is to privatize everything, so only those who can afford it will get info on the weather or anything else. except, of course MAGA propaganda.
Terrible_Horror@reddit
Sounds like a conspiracy theory that portraits small government as a part of depopulation agenda by the elite.
SpotResident6135@reddit
Never ascribe to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
theCaitiff@reddit
Rather than ascribing it as a conspiracy theory about depopulation we could simply call it a shit stupid example of an idiot with delusions of adequacy run amok with power.
A sad fact of life is that there is almost never a grand plan or narrative. People in power do things without rhyme or reason and rarely listen to those who are paid to know better.
Terrible_Horror@reddit
That’s a terrible reality that some of us would rather not acknowledge. It comforts me to think of them as evil than idiots.
passenger_now@reddit
Why not both?
theCaitiff@reddit
It's uncomfortable to face reality sometimes. If it help though, not all of them are idiots. Some are just greedy, or arrogant. If you start thinking they're evil or have a master plan, you wind up in tin foil hat land pretty quick.
Besides, they don't need to conspire secretly about ruling the world when they can just release quarterly earnings statements or investment prospectuses. Nobody actually reads those, so what little actual coordination exists between the mega-rich can happen in the open. Company X says it's shifting its focus into [Blank] As A Service, which means executives at Company Y can release it's own subscription only model the following quarter and both companies can quietly drop the option to buy their product outright.
mooky1977@reddit
They won't have to drown that small government in the bathtub ala Grover Norquist.
Nastyfaction@reddit (OP)
With climate change fueling extreme weather, we're seeing a constant barrage of unprecedented and historic events. In this case, there's potential for major rainfall and flooding projected for several states.
the_friendly_dildo@reddit
We should have never called it "Climate Change" because that ignores the reality of what is really coming. It should only ever be referred to as "Climate Destabilization". A decade ago, you could reliably expect it to be cold all winter most often with cloudy weather with the occasional snow in the midwest. Now, it might be anywhere from extremely cold, to pleasant, it could be clear and sunny, it could be freezing rain, it could be a historic blizzard. Its nearing the point that tornadoes could become a real risk over winter for a lot of places. The time of have an understood and reliable weather pattern for most places is gone. It will only become more unpredictable from here.
fiddleshine@reddit
Agreed. As a climate scientist, I’ve stopped using the docile-sounding “climate change” like it’s some slow and gentle process and will now only refer to it as “the climate crisis,” or, “the climate emergency.”
roblewk@reddit
I think climate change is a term the media is slowly embracing. They occasionally cite it, and each time I’m a little proud of them. While “climate crisis” is more accurate, it rings as alarmist in wider circles. I’d be happy, for now, for people to collectively accept that the climate is changing. Next, for them to accept that it is human caused. Then, finally, for them to accept it as a crisis. I think we are moving in your direction.
nogooduse@reddit
you're right. but it's depressing to realize that correctly calling attention to an actual crisis is considered 'alarmist'.
SimpleAsEndOf@reddit
"Climate Change" is a marketing ploy for promoting climate denial and ignorance.
The global media moved from Global Warming (actually the truth) to Climate Change (DoubleSpeak/obfuscation/minimization).
It is one of the world's Big Lies, considering human extinction is almost upon us.
fiddleshine@reddit
Well said. The only thing I’ll challenge is the idea that complete human extinction is upon us. I do think ultimately that billions will die from the climate crisis (the physical effects as well as the massive political unrest) and of course way of life as we know it will cease to exist. But I think some will survive and manage to eke out a precarious existence.
SimpleAsEndOf@reddit
Our ecosystems are very fragile and hurting/breaking already.
Not sure what the last people will eat, when ecosystems collapse develops into a massive tsunami that disappears all life across the planet.
Intrepid_Waste@reddit
I like to call it “Death of the Biosphere”
BTRCguy@reddit
Or as it will soon be renamed, "Freedom Water".
nogooduse@reddit
touche'!
shapeofthings@reddit
but climate change doesn't exist any more, the Republicans got rid of all mention of it. time to defund NOAA for needless scaremongering. they also got rid of FEMA, who were always at disaster sites - funny that, no? good thing they got rid of them!
aznoone@reddit
States need to pay more. They have used the federal government for free money for too.long. Now Trump will have money to fund the bestest biggliest projects to katapult the US into the future.
shapeofthings@reddit
Free money? It is what the people pay in taxes... So states are going to have to raise taxes whilst the government spends what is saved on tax cuts for the rich.
nogooduse@reddit
no, massive tariffs will pay for everything! and if that's not enough, trump will make mexico and canada pay more.
roblewk@reddit
No climate change, no NOAA, no FEMA, no problem.
Alarmed_Profile1950@reddit
The NOAA is just a constant stream of bad news and problems. Too dry, too wet, too hot, too cold, too hurricanes. We can solve all these climate issues by simply dissolving the NOAA, so that is what the brave policymakers of the enlightened administration will do, and just like that, poof, with the stroke of a crayon all the United States's climate problems will be solved.
sushisection@reddit
the short-sightedness will be their downfall
nogooduse@reddit
not just them; we are all in this together. presumably they think they'll be safe in some hyper-expensive reinforced hideaway. still waiting for a Cat5 hurricane to hit MaraLago.
Eukelek@reddit
Sharpie power overrules stupid science dictating the narrative...
nogooduse@reddit
Perfect timing for the climate-crisis deniers who are busy destroying the govt agencies that can forecast and provide aid to citizens. No one can pretend that this sort of thing is a surprise; scientists have predicted it for years and now it's here.
Eagleburgerite@reddit
I don't understand how people are still in denial when it dumps as much rain for casted for a year in a matter of days. It's beyond me.
OldTimberWolf@reddit
All part of God’s plan son.
Losing_my_Bemidji@reddit
Yes papa wolf
Limp_Meet1321@reddit
They are too busy reading about Trump and Musk.
aznoone@reddit
If everyone bought a cybertruck and we filed space with more starlink all would be better.
Barnacle_B0b@reddit
Not possible, according to the current head of the EPA this all sounds like "climate change religion" talk. ^^^^^^^^^^^/s
NoseyMinotaur69@reddit
With multiple tornado watch warnings currently ongoing in the region in red
nogooduse@reddit
Perfect timing for the climate-crisis deniers who are busy destroying the govt agencies that can forecast and provide aid to citizens. No one can pretend that this sort of thing is a surprise; scientists have predicted it for years and now it's here.
StoopSign@reddit
Blasphemy. Defund NOAA
ReefJR65@reddit
Just in time for the tariffs!
Odeeum@reddit
I'm sure FEMA is well prepared and thers lots of available funding to help...
elsandry@reddit
Wasn't this a plot point in The Deluge?
I enjoyed the book, but I'm getting a little tired of Stephen Markley being right all the time.
Dethe@reddit
The most surprising thing about this for me is that there is still enough functioning NOAA to make this prediction.
No-Papaya-9289@reddit
After the flood, there will be plenty of MAGAts saying that the Democrats seeded the clouds so it rains on red states.
STL_Tim@reddit
I thought they could pray their way out of any disaster. Maybe they are not praying hard enough.
jsc1429@reddit
It’s ok, NOAA doesn’t exist anymore so this is all fake news /s
maddomesticscientist@reddit
This forecast is beginning to make me ill. It is TOO similar to the forecast in May 2010 and again in August 2021 which brought the Nashville and Waverly floods. This is a "put an axe in the attic" forecast.
Speaking of punched, on top of that, when I walked outside at 630 am to wait for the bus with my kid, the heat and humidity was like a gut punch. It's too hot already today. Now the sun is trying to come out. That's also making me vaguely ill at the thought of the storms that are going to be produced by it.
Not ill as in anxiety. That's long been beaten out of me. I'm old. I've seen my share of disaster. Any day I wake up to similarities to massive tornado outbreaks or catastrophic flooding it makes me sick to think of all the people that are going to wake up to very different circumstances 24 hours from now. If they wake up at all.
effinmetal@reddit
The 2010 Nashville floods were fucking bonkers. I graduated college right after it completely devastated the city.
Limp_Meet1321@reddit
The part that makes me angry and hopeless is that many family members and friends I know who live in other areas (I am in Western, KY) don't grasp the severity of the catastrophic weather we have been having all over the U.S. and the world lately. They hear stories here and there, but if it's not on their news feed or in their direct path, they don't see the blaring truth in front of their faces.
itsadiseaster@reddit
I remember Tennessee had its 1000-year-food about a decade ago. Seems like another 1000 years have passed..
angrypacketguy@reddit
At least the notices aren't written in crayon yet.
digdog303@reddit
Sharpie
SoFlaBarbie00@reddit
Folks, if you are in these areas just plan on flash flooding. With the cuts in NWS you will not receive alerts in time. Those of us in South Florida experienced this first hand this weekend as we did not receive any flood watches and only received a flash flood warning one hour into the actual flood event. It was too late and a lot of people were caught up in it. Just plan for flash flooding in your area and don’t wait for NWS warnings.
thegreentiger0484@reddit
Republican parts?
daviss2@reddit
Plays tiny violin
iwatchppldie@reddit
Luckily for everyone there’s no fema to get in the way of the boot straps.
I really hope this doesn’t become a talking point for real satire is getting hard.
coffeehandler@reddit
Noah, take the wheel.
mooky1977@reddit
"George Soros did it with the weather manipulation machine and space lasers" - MAGAt land, probably
Dapper_Bee2277@reddit
I live in this area, just downriver too. I'm on a hill so hopefully I'll be okay.
People here are saying it's fear mongering and not that big of a deal. Lots of warnings for extrema weather lately and tornadoes out of season.
EarthSurf@reddit
Probably a good time to pull up the 1-in-100 year flood maps from FEMA and scope out which areas will be washed away, so you can plan your escape routes and such, if you need them. Good luck.
SeveralDrunkRaccoons@reddit
Red State blues. 🎻
HailSkyKing@reddit
Don't worry. You have a good captain at the helm. /s
Royal_Register_9906@reddit
That’s a very large area smacking many metropolitan population centers. The southeast US faces problems too. No where to go.
StatementBot@reddit
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With climate change fueling extreme weather, we're seeing a constant barrage of unprecedented and historic events. In this case, there's potential for major rainfall and flooding projected for several states.
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