Anyone know what this is

Posted by satanscookiebud@reddit | sailing | View on Reddit | 38 comments

Specifically the spars that lean forward in front with the wire antenna pointed forward, is it like for fishing or is this just a fake model? I did find it in a aley so it might not be a realistic ship.

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nicholhawking@reddit

Yawl

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Ahlarict@reddit

Aye, and what fine looking hooker she be!

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StarpoweredSteamship@reddit

Those appear to be cutter rigged, no? Single main, two heads'ls?

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mytthew1@reddit

No it is ketch rigged. It has a mizzenmast mast. Cutters only have one mast.

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frak357@reddit

It is a yawl because the aft mast is behind the rudder. A ketch would have the aft mast before the rudder.

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SailingSpark@reddit

That is not always the case. It is also a matter of sail area. On a ketch the mizzen is a significant portion of the sail area and is a driving sail. On a yawl, it is a small portion of the sail area and only used for balance.

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Wooden-Quit1870@reddit

A yawl is when the mizzen steps aft of the waterline.

A Ketch is a Barque with the Mainmast removed, a Yawl is a Sloop with a Mizzen added.

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StarpoweredSteamship@reddit

This (op) is a yawl. The linked hookers Ahlarict showed are cutters. Yawls are easy to tell from ketches because the mizzen is really short comparatively, and behind the rudder, way at the end of the boat.

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mytthew1@reddit

Yes I should have said yawl

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StarpoweredSteamship@reddit

Yawl come back now, y'hear?

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Ahlarict@reddit

Similar school of boat design though - I just included the link to clarify my use of the term "hooker" for fishing boats.

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uhnothisispatrick@reddit

His hooker’s in the Scilly Van When the seines are in the foam; But money never made the man, Nor wealth a happy home. So, blest with love and liberty, While he can trim a sail, He’ll trust in God and cling to me— The Boatsman of Kinsale

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frak357@reddit

Gaff rigged yawl.

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satanscookiebud@reddit (OP)

Oh dope, thanks. It'll be a fun one to clean up

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SailingSpark@reddit

looks similar to a french lugger called a Bisquine

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Morgrom@reddit

It's for fishing. You lower the two long poles with the wire antenna out to each side of the boat. You then sail slowly (~4kn) and dragging lines after the boat.

Here is what that looks like when deployed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_(fishing)

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satanscookiebud@reddit (OP)

Interesting, do you know what the wires are supposed to represent on the model, I can't find any real life rigs that are similar

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Morgrom@reddit

I don't know, but some wild guesses:

There are lines from the poles to the mast. They are probably there to lower the poles.

There are lines from the pole that goes forward to the fore deck. They might be there to stabilize the poles or they might be the fishing lines (or both).

The long things that point forward from the top of the pole might be there to make the poles as long a possible but save weight (you want as little weight as possible that far up). It could also be a construction to make it easier to bring the catch onboard.

I have done some trolling while sailing, but not on a boat like that.

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Throwaway_157464@reddit

Es a boat

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Pattern_Is_Movement@reddit

A French tuna fishing boat, from the 1930's ish.

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staners09@reddit

A boatcycle? Or maybe A bisailcle?

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satanscookiebud@reddit (OP)

Lotta great information, thanks everyone. But does anyone have anything on how that sailing rig was actually used? I can't seem to find how it works. Is it for drag nets? Is it for single lines?

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