its not cat and mouse, they could stop all that if they wanted to. They just want to inconvenience as many people as possible into switching to premium or dealing with ads before inevitably cutting off all the penny pinchers who probably wont switch until forced to, or at least that's my theory.
I would rather not use youtube then and have slowly started to use it less unless i look for something specific. then I have to deal with its shit less.
Yeah just like how lemmy replaced reddit when 3rd party apps were disallowed. Or how kick replaced twitch. Or how bluesky is the new twitter. Literally nothing will happen
1: suddenly paying for something that was originally free
2: changing platforms
Unfortunately for these social media sites people don't like #1 way more than #2
So if you give them an ultimatum to choose between the two, most people are gonna choose #2 so that they can keep using whqt they believe should remain free to use.
And all these social media sites know this, its why none of them did (or ever will) make that switch to paid only - its not like they can't, they could have done this at any point throughout their existence.
But they won't, they'll just keep emshittifying the free version as much as they can with no end in sight.
Eventually people will start leaving and once that happens the social media sites will try to salvage themselves by increasing the costs of paid memberships which in turn will start to encourage their paid members to start leaving and flock to whatever social media site the free users have been flocking to which will be free.
And they will leave because social media sites rely on user-based generated content, its why people use social media sites.
The moment people start to leave there will be a drop in content generated leading to a drop in perceived value for their paid customers.
I don't think youtube will disappear, I think it will end up as this weird hub of corporate generated dlop with no user generated content turning it essentially to... a paid TV channel.
i mean if you're already not watching ads and already not paying for for prime, stopping watching is the ideal scenario for youtube, that's sorta a complete 100% net positive for them
It isn't because they will lose a LOT of their audience from whose views they get their ad revenue from
Sure, some of the new premium users will make up for that but I'm willing to bet that it will be nearly as much as what they're making off their current free/paid dual system.
When you give someone something for free first and then you ask them to start paying for it later they REALLY don't want to pay for it
So much so that they are willing to put up with all this enshittification left & right as long as it means they don't have to pay
They'll complain
But they'll stay
There are generally 2 things people don't like:
1: paying for something that was initially free
2: changing platforms
Unfortunately for these social media sites, people don't like #1 wayyy more than they don't like #2
So if they are given an ultimatum of either going with option 1 or option 2 - most people are going to go with option 2 and go to a different platform that is free.
There is a very good reason why all the leading social media platforms are essentially free to use.
Youtube knows this which is why its been enshittifying over the years instead of just changing to paid membership only.
They're not stupid, they know what they're doing (as shitty as that is)
Youtube ads are obnoxious but so are the content creators who decode to spend 10% of the video talking about some crappy sponsor because nobody can jusy do Youtube for fun anymore everypne wants to be paid for it.
I had this issue, turns out I had installed another yt specific ad block years ago and forgot about it. YouTube was detecting this so once I uninstalled it ublock could do its job
I like Edge, i've been on it for a while, kinda got influenced by my job using it as the main browser. If it gets cucked by chromium updates i'm not sure if ill go brave or firefox.
pretty much, yes. Firefox has been great though after making the switch 2 months ago. I can only complain about google docs not fully working but I just use chrome for that and I'm all good.
Afaik pretty much every single browser is chromium except for Firefox, and that's because google gives them 50 million dollars a year to keep the lights on so that they don't get slapped with a monopoly case
Obviously all cases differ slightly but in general anything chromium based is liable to being locked out of adblocked YouTube since chromium and YouTube are both part of Google if I understood correctly. That doesn't mean Firefox will never be locked out or anything chromium will never accept adblockers again but generally that's how it works. If Brave works for you it's fine to stick to it but when you start having issues you might wanna consider switching over. I didn't want to switch from chrome to Firefox because I'm a lazy turd who doesn't use bookmarks but keeps open all his tabs all the time and I felt it was too much of a hassle to switch but funny enough google has pushed me away from their entire browser by forcing that AdBlock shit down my throat. Funny enough I actually paid for yt premium for a month or two because of student discount but then they raised prices and I couldn't be bothered anymore. If only the money they made actually went to the creators that draw me to the website in the first place I wouldn't have minded it so much but if you're gonna force porn ads down my throat then demonetize my favourite YouTubers for saying fuck in their videos you can go fuck yourself lmfao
Have YouTube ads ever been effective at gaining customers for a product? I make a point not to buy products I see in YouTube ads. Seems like putting your startup in a YouTube ad will only make people resent the produc, unless YouTube is funding the ads themselves because more ads mean more nuisance to the viewer.
Opera gx may be an annoying pos to deal with sometimes but I will always remain loyal due to their extreme prejudice for youtube and their ad block pushes. One video flags me using an ad blocker, within a few hours opera's ad blocker can get around the filters once again
Genuinely question and it's gonna sound like big standard shite advice, but have you tried turning the ad blocker on and off again? I've done that before, refreshed YouTube and it immediately started working
I'm worried at some point they will have a workaround on that too. Redundancy is key so I hope it stays on this track but it never hurts to know more methods.
Use Brave browser. It's a fork of chromium without all the ad shit and privacy issues. Can still install extensions from the chrome webstore including uBlock Origin. It also has a built in adblocker. pretty shweet
Okay. So looking it up YouTube has 2.49 billion monthly users. The Chrome web store lists Adblock Plus as having 43 million users. So that's 1.72% of users blocking ads.
Yeah I'm not buying it. Even adding on a couple of percentage points for other ad blockers I really doubt that's breaking the back of their money printing machine. This is just about wanting a couple more bucks on top of their mountain of money while not making anything better to incentivise it.
That's assuming that everyone who uses adblock watches youtube, that's forgetting that there are other ad blockers like ublock and then finally that every user has a similar consumption, I'd assume that those who watch a lot of youtube are much more likely to have an adblocker.
You guys are also assuming that the views on youtube are not being gained by 3rd party sources that block ads. This also assumes that every person blocking ads is using adblock plus and not other types of adblockers (like ublock which everyone is recommending). There's a lot of factors that make it hard to account for how much money YT could be making off of ads and what percentage they are losing to adblocker usage globally.
After my ad blockers stopped on chrome, I made the switch to firefox. I genuinely asked myself "Why have I not done this before?" The only website it breaks compatibility for me is google docs which I can open chrome for anyway. Besides that, the migration took at most 30 minutes and I have also de-googled my life just a bit more.
Fun fact, only a tiny percentage of the population ever uses advblock or anything like that. Chances are, if you're googling how to block ads you're apart of the 1% of people who are tech savvy enough to even know they exist.
So YouTube is really doing this entire anti-ad block campaign over >1% of users.
Yeah I don't get why so many people try to make it out like it must be this miniscule portion of money. People who are going out of their way to cycle adblockers or use things like Vanced are more likely to watch more youtube and for longer.
Personally, I really don't see the problem with a company/service requiring people that use it to contribute to the revenue stream in some way (in this example it's ads vs paying a fee). It feels like the internet really warped the perception of a lot of people for what services should just be given for free vs paid for.
I’m one of the only people I know who chose YouTube Premium over Spotify way back in like 2010 when music streaming was becoming huge. And while it’s like $10/month more expensive than when I first got it, I also haven’t had to watch or listen to any YouTube ads in 15 years. Given their expansive library of videos, including a rotation of hundreds of movies and shows that are free with premium, it’s all been well worth it in my opinion.
I see this shit posted on the YouTube sub all the damn time and my answer is always the same: either get premium or wait for your ad blocker to update their shit.
If YouTube blocks adblock on chrome use firefox... if YouTube blocks adblock on firefox use chrome. I used to just switch between the two but firefox hasn't failed me for a long long time.
fizzyboii@reddit
its not cat and mouse, they could stop all that if they wanted to. They just want to inconvenience as many people as possible into switching to premium or dealing with ads before inevitably cutting off all the penny pinchers who probably wont switch until forced to, or at least that's my theory.
amodsr@reddit
I would rather not use youtube then and have slowly started to use it less unless i look for something specific. then I have to deal with its shit less.
YoungDiscord@reddit
The moment that happens 2 things will get a huge boost
1: vimeo or dailymotion, alternatively streaming sites
2: torrent sites
Infernester@reddit
Yeah just like how lemmy replaced reddit when 3rd party apps were disallowed. Or how kick replaced twitch. Or how bluesky is the new twitter. Literally nothing will happen
YoungDiscord@reddit
Those are bad examples because in each case the social media platform remained free
We're talking about youtube becoming paid membership only.
Reddit is still free
Twitch is still free
So is twitter
Sure, they've been enshittified but free shit is still free shit, that's why they're still around.
The second they become paid only they will be overtaken by their free coubterparts.
Dissy-@reddit
you sit through reddit ads and twitter ads and twitch ads lol you'll sit through youtube ads too
Triple96@reddit
That's literally his point. Turn off the ads and make it paid-only and he won't be watching lol.
YoungDiscord@reddit
Exactly
There are 2 things people don't like:
1: suddenly paying for something that was originally free
2: changing platforms
Unfortunately for these social media sites people don't like #1 way more than #2
So if you give them an ultimatum to choose between the two, most people are gonna choose #2 so that they can keep using whqt they believe should remain free to use.
And all these social media sites know this, its why none of them did (or ever will) make that switch to paid only - its not like they can't, they could have done this at any point throughout their existence.
But they won't, they'll just keep emshittifying the free version as much as they can with no end in sight.
Eventually people will start leaving and once that happens the social media sites will try to salvage themselves by increasing the costs of paid memberships which in turn will start to encourage their paid members to start leaving and flock to whatever social media site the free users have been flocking to which will be free.
And they will leave because social media sites rely on user-based generated content, its why people use social media sites.
The moment people start to leave there will be a drop in content generated leading to a drop in perceived value for their paid customers.
I don't think youtube will disappear, I think it will end up as this weird hub of corporate generated dlop with no user generated content turning it essentially to... a paid TV channel.
Dissy-@reddit
i mean if you're already not watching ads and already not paying for for prime, stopping watching is the ideal scenario for youtube, that's sorta a complete 100% net positive for them
YoungDiscord@reddit
It isn't because they will lose a LOT of their audience from whose views they get their ad revenue from
Sure, some of the new premium users will make up for that but I'm willing to bet that it will be nearly as much as what they're making off their current free/paid dual system.
When you give someone something for free first and then you ask them to start paying for it later they REALLY don't want to pay for it
So much so that they are willing to put up with all this enshittification left & right as long as it means they don't have to pay
They'll complain
But they'll stay
There are generally 2 things people don't like:
1: paying for something that was initially free
2: changing platforms
Unfortunately for these social media sites, people don't like #1 wayyy more than they don't like #2
So if they are given an ultimatum of either going with option 1 or option 2 - most people are going to go with option 2 and go to a different platform that is free.
There is a very good reason why all the leading social media platforms are essentially free to use.
Youtube knows this which is why its been enshittifying over the years instead of just changing to paid membership only.
They're not stupid, they know what they're doing (as shitty as that is)
sad_roses@reddit
Bluesky is not the new twitter lmao do you live under a rock? The only people who use bluesky are 35 year old harry potter millennials.
Twitch literally has 40x more active users than kick.
Memelordofdloglo@reddit
If you do want to watch youtube but not have to deal with the bullshit that comes with it, you can use Freetube. It's great
plokijuh1229@reddit
No fucking shit sherlock.
Lolplayer65@reddit
Who shit in your soup 💀
leaderofstars@reddit
YouTube did
TooOld2DieYoung@reddit
And they made me watch an Ad as they did it!
happycabinsong@reddit
and suspiciously... an ad for shit soup... how'd they know?
TooOld2DieYoung@reddit
Campbells Extra Chunky?
LemonFlavoredMelon@reddit
I mean it is pretty fucking obvious what it was…
shiny_xnaut@reddit
Me 😈
JEREDEK@reddit
Someone never had to fight with annoying cheaters as a dev lmao
concon910@reddit
The moment they try to lock Google services to Google browsers they eat antitrust suits by the EU and China.
56Bot@reddit
Well, Google might have better devs, but the community has many more devs.
Apes together strong.
reallynunyabusiness@reddit
Youtube ads are obnoxious but so are the content creators who decode to spend 10% of the video talking about some crappy sponsor because nobody can jusy do Youtube for fun anymore everypne wants to be paid for it.
Bobly2@reddit
Am I stupid or lucky or something? I use Crome and a free Adblock extension and it completely blocks YouTube ads and I’ve never gotten this popup
EatAllTheShiny@reddit
Brave is superior to any other browser, by far. Firefox is a distant second.
Unilateralrailgun@reddit
Literally just Ublock.
Angry_Bicycle@reddit
I use Ublock, but I get warnings that I can only watch 3 videos before they block me
Noobeater1@reddit
Try the brave browser
Acharyn@reddit
That's just another chromium browser.
DickviperAU@reddit
Reload the site, works for me on Opera
Sometastypasta@reddit
I had this issue, turns out I had installed another yt specific ad block years ago and forgot about it. YouTube was detecting this so once I uninstalled it ublock could do its job
InspiringMilk@reddit
Update it.
kerodon@reddit
Not using chromium based browsers, for now 🤷 Firefox is good for the time being.
Drayenn@reddit
Im on edge and i still get zero ads. I feel like its temporary though.
Kechvel@reddit
Damn bro, relax.
Drayenn@reddit
I'm just not that... Brave
happycabinsong@reddit
you should have went with this one first
Drayenn@reddit
I like Edge, i've been on it for a while, kinda got influenced by my job using it as the main browser. If it gets cucked by chromium updates i'm not sure if ill go brave or firefox.
Trigger_Fox@reddit
I fucking hate that i laughed at this
Cataclysma324@reddit
Is it all chromium? Brave seems to work too w the built in blocker at least
MsDestroyer900@reddit
pretty much, yes. Firefox has been great though after making the switch 2 months ago. I can only complain about google docs not fully working but I just use chrome for that and I'm all good.
crocodilepickle@reddit
Afaik pretty much every single browser is chromium except for Firefox, and that's because google gives them 50 million dollars a year to keep the lights on so that they don't get slapped with a monopoly case
BlazingFire007@reddit
Safari users in shambles
JerryUitDeBuurt@reddit
Obviously all cases differ slightly but in general anything chromium based is liable to being locked out of adblocked YouTube since chromium and YouTube are both part of Google if I understood correctly. That doesn't mean Firefox will never be locked out or anything chromium will never accept adblockers again but generally that's how it works. If Brave works for you it's fine to stick to it but when you start having issues you might wanna consider switching over. I didn't want to switch from chrome to Firefox because I'm a lazy turd who doesn't use bookmarks but keeps open all his tabs all the time and I felt it was too much of a hassle to switch but funny enough google has pushed me away from their entire browser by forcing that AdBlock shit down my throat. Funny enough I actually paid for yt premium for a month or two because of student discount but then they raised prices and I couldn't be bothered anymore. If only the money they made actually went to the creators that draw me to the website in the first place I wouldn't have minded it so much but if you're gonna force porn ads down my throat then demonetize my favourite YouTubers for saying fuck in their videos you can go fuck yourself lmfao
leastemployableman@reddit
Have YouTube ads ever been effective at gaining customers for a product? I make a point not to buy products I see in YouTube ads. Seems like putting your startup in a YouTube ad will only make people resent the produc, unless YouTube is funding the ads themselves because more ads mean more nuisance to the viewer.
bendbars_liftgates@reddit
If they didn't work, companies wouldn't keep paying for them. The same companies, too, so they must generate income.
YourFavoritNew@reddit
Firefox
The_All_Knowing_Derp@reddit
Opera gx may be an annoying pos to deal with sometimes but I will always remain loyal due to their extreme prejudice for youtube and their ad block pushes. One video flags me using an ad blocker, within a few hours opera's ad blocker can get around the filters once again
SweetTooth275@reddit
To use that garbage is below me and my self respect. DuckduckGo is the answer
Captain_Milkshakes@reddit
pick one
MHWDoggerX@reddit
I am not using a search engine with a name that stupid
SweetTooth275@reddit
Unlike with the most soylent browser imaginable you can have both.
Kicooi@reddit
My OperaGX has fallen sadly. It’s been two weeks and the adblocker still doesn’t work on YouTube
Caedis-6@reddit
Genuinely question and it's gonna sound like big standard shite advice, but have you tried turning the ad blocker on and off again? I've done that before, refreshed YouTube and it immediately started working
Chips70UwU@reddit
i use the regular opera, and dont have to deal with any ads, not on youtube, not anywhere. i realy like it👍
crimsonpowder@reddit
It puts the ad onto its retinas or it gets the hose again.
ripzipzap@reddit
Brave supremacy
Traumatic_Tomato@reddit
I'm worried at some point they will have a workaround on that too. Redundancy is key so I hope it stays on this track but it never hurts to know more methods.
VaczTheHermit@reddit
Where greentext
Don_Vergas_Mamon@reddit
Firefox sells your data now.
bagofdicks69@reddit
Ad starts playing
I just dont have patience for ads. If anything plays ads there is 90% chance I just close it and do something else.
And if you are wondering the 10% is porn and minecraft mods
TheRealJayk0b@reddit
Clear cache for YouTube.com and google.com, reload video, profit.
Repeat when this pops up again (for me it was a 3 / 4 day cycle)
BobbaBlep@reddit
Use Brave browser. It's a fork of chromium without all the ad shit and privacy issues. Can still install extensions from the chrome webstore including uBlock Origin. It also has a built in adblocker. pretty shweet
maybeihavethebigsad@reddit
Doesnt matter if I’m the richest guy in the world I will never pay for YouTube premium due to pettiness
axellie@reddit
Adguard on safari works great
captkuso@reddit
"used by billions worldwide"
Okay. So looking it up YouTube has 2.49 billion monthly users. The Chrome web store lists Adblock Plus as having 43 million users. So that's 1.72% of users blocking ads.
Yeah I'm not buying it. Even adding on a couple of percentage points for other ad blockers I really doubt that's breaking the back of their money printing machine. This is just about wanting a couple more bucks on top of their mountain of money while not making anything better to incentivise it.
Sirmiglouche@reddit
That's assuming that everyone who uses adblock watches youtube, that's forgetting that there are other ad blockers like ublock and then finally that every user has a similar consumption, I'd assume that those who watch a lot of youtube are much more likely to have an adblocker.
bell37@reddit
To YouTube, that 1.72% is untapped revenue. Gotta squeeze it from somewhere if you expect perpetual profit growth
Doo-Doo-G@reddit
That’s also assuming every single person that uses ublock watches YouTube.
project571@reddit
You guys are also assuming that the views on youtube are not being gained by 3rd party sources that block ads. This also assumes that every person blocking ads is using adblock plus and not other types of adblockers (like ublock which everyone is recommending). There's a lot of factors that make it hard to account for how much money YT could be making off of ads and what percentage they are losing to adblocker usage globally.
ZeuxisOfHerakleia@reddit
uBlock Origin or Brave browser, either way Ive never seen this message nor adds for as long as I remember being an adult
bigfreeman@reddit
I'd rather stop watching youtube than pay for it
TweeMansLeger@reddit
Vpn + plus subscription can get you premium for like 1.4 usd a month.
Emergency_Draft1835@reddit
Laughs in free YouTube premium
MyDogIsDaBest@reddit
Imagine using a chromium browser. You get what you deserve
BlazingFire007@reddit
Imagine using an inferior browser engine. Enjoy your choppy gradients :P
The_Knife_Pie@reddit
What is bro yapping about
Aphrel86@reddit
I wonder how many users google chrome lost as a result of adblock extension being removed.
Pretty much everyone i know in the gaming world has swapped from chrome to firefox browser for this exact reason.
MsDestroyer900@reddit
After my ad blockers stopped on chrome, I made the switch to firefox. I genuinely asked myself "Why have I not done this before?" The only website it breaks compatibility for me is google docs which I can open chrome for anyway. Besides that, the migration took at most 30 minutes and I have also de-googled my life just a bit more.
freshmemesoof@reddit
just use firefox.
the real question is if anyone knows how to block ads on twitch, twitch is the boogeyman in that regard
itsAnon47@reddit
Use Brave my friend
According_to_Mission@reddit
Brave
MNNGRFA@reddit
There is a uBlock beta for chrome manifest v3 and it works just fine.
LordJanas@reddit
Install a better adblock.
gdghfzr@reddit
Revanced extended
Kazer67@reddit
"Ah don't worry YouTube, I never agreed to your term and it's not Opt-Out here, it's Opt-In"
mustafa_i_am@reddit
Watch ads or get premium that's the solution. Being a mooch is nothing to brag about. Support your favorite creators!
NCD_Lardum_AS@reddit
Good god you're all entitled
ScTiger1311@reddit
I have never once seen these, firefox+ublock. No other adblockers. Nothing else special, just that.
TheTreeDemoknight@reddit
Refreshing the page works for me
Lipohillicbone69@reddit
Use grayjay it has no ads and doesn't need a specific browser.
fr4gge@reddit
Ublock never worked for me
Jellylegs_19@reddit
Fun fact, only a tiny percentage of the population ever uses advblock or anything like that. Chances are, if you're googling how to block ads you're apart of the 1% of people who are tech savvy enough to even know they exist.
So YouTube is really doing this entire anti-ad block campaign over >1% of users.
BlazingFire007@reddit
This is true, but it’s important to note these 10% of users likely watch much more YouTube than the average Joe
project571@reddit
Yeah I don't get why so many people try to make it out like it must be this miniscule portion of money. People who are going out of their way to cycle adblockers or use things like Vanced are more likely to watch more youtube and for longer.
Personally, I really don't see the problem with a company/service requiring people that use it to contribute to the revenue stream in some way (in this example it's ads vs paying a fee). It feels like the internet really warped the perception of a lot of people for what services should just be given for free vs paid for.
Pullsberry_Dough_Boy@reddit
The solution is to view the ads, eat the bugs, live in the pod, and pay your monthly subscriptions.
igerardcom@reddit
You VILL eat ZE bugs, you VILL vatch ZE ads, UND you VILL be HAPPY!
PhilosopherMonke01@reddit
You will pay for subscriptions and you will be happy!
11freebird@reddit
It’s what awaits us sadly, even more with the corpobot president in the USA
Captain_Sacktap@reddit
I’m one of the only people I know who chose YouTube Premium over Spotify way back in like 2010 when music streaming was becoming huge. And while it’s like $10/month more expensive than when I first got it, I also haven’t had to watch or listen to any YouTube ads in 15 years. Given their expansive library of videos, including a rotation of hundreds of movies and shows that are free with premium, it’s all been well worth it in my opinion.
11freebird@reddit
I just swallowed the pill and paid for the fucking premium. Though I use YouTube music so I don’t pay for Spotify, but it still is sad.
mesugakiworshiper@reddit
L take
11freebird@reddit
There’s not much choice if you use YouTube mobile
VanTrHamster@reddit
Kid named Revanced Manager:
11freebird@reddit
For iOS?
Doo-Doo-G@reddit
Mfw custom ipa.
11freebird@reddit
Jailbreak right?
Doo-Doo-G@reddit
TrollStore
11freebird@reddit
Jailbreak?
Opheodrys97@reddit
You made the right choice going with apple to pay for subscriptions for everything
11freebird@reddit
Better than Home Screen ads lol
mesugakiworshiper@reddit
please tell me youre just trolling
11freebird@reddit
Partially
Stereophonic@reddit
Delet this
leekhead@reddit
I see this shit posted on the YouTube sub all the damn time and my answer is always the same: either get premium or wait for your ad blocker to update their shit.
BigBadBurg@reddit
Brave browser plus two different adblockers and sponsor block did the trick
witchcapture@reddit
"allowlisted" instead of "whitelisted"... lol
Branden798@reddit
If you have an iPad for some reason using YouTube on chrome just doesn't show ads. Been doing this since 2013 never been "fixed".
NeedleworkerNew1850@reddit
laughs in rss feed
demonsdencollective@reddit
Guillotine. Or just install Adguard.
FrazzleFlib@reddit
took one day for ublock to fix it, theyll never win.
Conorcat@reddit
Not greentext
ForumsDwelling@reddit
False, anonymous is literally green
techwolfe@reddit
Firefox, Ublock origin.
Something_Ingenuine@reddit
If YouTube blocks adblock on chrome use firefox... if YouTube blocks adblock on firefox use chrome. I used to just switch between the two but firefox hasn't failed me for a long long time.
Sec_Chief_Blanchard@reddit
And if both are blocked stop using YouTube
Something_Ingenuine@reddit
True
Ayato14@reddit
Bro is not using Internet Explorer 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
gvdc@reddit
The video playback for youtube on firefox is slightly 'blurry' for me so what I do is copy the link and paste it into an incognito google chrome tab.
Regret1836@reddit
I get these all the time on Safari Ublock, but never get them on Chrome with Ublock.
RetiredBy30orDead@reddit
Happy new 2020!