When is a time you've been scared flying?
Posted by Pallymorphic@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 93 comments
Saw a post about interview questions and now I'm curious. When's a time you've been scared while flying?
I'm sure a lot can relate, but I think only time I've ever been truly scared was first solo. Instructor got out in the run-up after a few laps and said "ok, do 3 more". Holy shit was I terrified.
But after the first landing I had a newfound confidence. Now I LOVE flying solo, it's so nice and reminds why I keep slowly progressing towards a flying career while working.
What's your scared story and what was the outcome and/or your feelings after?
LOVE2CREAMJUGGS@reddit
I was scared when I was 11,500MSL student solo and I had to poop but was 80NM away from my airport š¤£
ConnorOldsBooks@reddit
Towards the end of my Air Force career as a U-2 pilot, I was scared of flying every damn day and was experiencing some pretty terrifying mental health episodes while in the cockpit, alone, unarmed, and unafraid at the edge of space in the world's most notoriously difficult aircraft. It started with a traumatic surgery to remove a bone tumor that Air Force medical completely bungled (no surprise there), which triggered an underlying genetic predisposition for bipolar disorder. But I didn't know that at the time. All I knew was that after the surgery, which left me with permanent bone/nerve damage and chronic pain, I no longer looked forward to flying--I now dreaded it.
All I could think about was how everything would go wrong. How I'd lose my engine at the worst possible moment on takeoff, fuck up the flame-out landing, be forced to eject, and be pilloried by my community for being such a shitty pilot.
On one high flight, I experienced a dissociative episode after climbing above 70,000 feet, in which I had no idea how "I" got there. Not in the literal sense--I knew I had just taken off and climbed up there--but in a more abstract sense. Like who was the me that had become a U-2 pilot? How in the hell did a totally incompetent fuck up like me manage to make it this far? I remember looking at the boost pump switches and having no fucking clue what they did. What they did, what they were for, how any of the switches integrated with the aircraft, how the human being at the controls related to me. The only way I continued was by reminding myself that I had done this hundreds of times before and nothing bad happened, even though it felt like someone else had done this hundreds of times before, and the episode passed in 15 minutes. I knew something was wrong, so to satisfy that concern I called the flight doc the next day, thinking I may have been hypoxic. I told him only a few of the actual events because I knew I'd be grounded, and when he said I wasn't hypoxic, I felt great, like I performed my due diligence to rectify whatever the hell had happened, even though I intentionally avoided discussing what had, in fact, happened.
On another high flight, this one at night, I had a full blown panic attack. I was over San Francisco, with Lake Tahoe on my left and a spectacular sunset on my right, when suddenly everything felt absolutely wrong. Like I didn't belong there in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, like I didn't belong in the jet, like something terrible was about to happen. This time I couldn't ignore the overwhelming urge to get out of the aircraft and be safely on terra firma, so I called the Airboss, said I was having digestive issues (a plausible excuse when you're wearing a $250k space suit), and flew VFR direct back to base.
On what ended up being the last flight of my life, I took a T-38 solo on my favorite training route up and down the Pacific coast of California, cruising over the beach cliffs at 2000 feet and lighting the afterburner over the San Francisco Bay. When I landed and shut down, I realized that somehow--despite the mechanism designed to prevent exactly this--I had clipped into the ejection seat without the "silver key" that armed the parachute. Had I injested a bird over the coast at 2000 feet--something that very well could have happened--my parachute would not have automatically deployed upon ejection, and I would've had only a few seconds to realize that and manually deploy my chute. But I knew in my current mental state that I would not have figured that out and I would've perished.
NONE of that was enough for me to seek help. But what happened after I hopped out of the T-38 cockpit on that final flight was. I received a text from my mother, informing me that my cousin, who had been diagnosed with bipolar, had hung himself, leaving behind his wife and two young daughters. He was a few years older than me but I was vaguely aware of the issues he was dealing with. I couldn't help but notice some similarities with my own issues, and I wondered if that was going to be me in five years.
So I called my flight doc and told him I no longer felt mentally fit to fly. That started a long, drawn out process of mental health treatment in the Air Force. It isn't anything like the rumors suggest. After months of working with behavioral health, they transferred me to mental health, diagnosed me with bipolar type 2, prescribed me lithium, and initiated a med board that resulted in my medical retirement three years ago.
I will never fly again, but I am totally okay with that. I am in a much better place now. Lithium sorted me right the fuck out, but I only needed it for a year. I'm now a civilian in grad school, trying to start a new career in my 30s, and have never been better.
Refined_redneck@reddit
Come back to the heritage room some time and have a beer with us.
ConnorOldsBooks@reddit
I will be in August!
Globemast3r@reddit
Good shit man, takes guts to do what you did.
Oregon-Pilot@reddit
Thanks for sharing that. I battle mental stuff of a different sort - major major imposter syndrome, to the point where Iāve called out sick because I just wasnāt there mentally at least once. Iām doing everything in my power to change my relationship with those thoughts (meditation, journaling, good diet, exercise, good sleep, self help books, talking with peers), and there is improvement, but sometimes I wonder about the longer term career prospects, at least at the airlines. I didnāt really have this issue flying corporate part 91, and seemed to thrive flying single pilot. But going through airline training in the 757/767 was extremely difficult and I think it undermined a lot of my confidence. I didnāt really have any issues in the sim, but mentally it was super super intense. Iāve had pretty much all fantastic feedback from captains in the 15 months Iāve been flying it, but I still beat myself up to an absolute pulp when I make any mistake or donāt know something that I feel I ought to know. I was hired at 2100 hours so I just feel like I never cut my teeth in the 121 world and my brain feels so saturated all the time now that trying to catch up knowledge-wise is super slow and difficult.
So here we are, fighting every day to keep myself pumped up. I donāt feel itās a safety of flight issue, but it definitely takes its toll on me mentally sometimes. Iāve used our unionās peer to peer support line twice now and that has been helpful. But sometimes i wonder if it will ever stop and if Iāll finally feel adequate to the point of no stomach jitters all the time.
Brambleshire@reddit
I'm not experiencing the same thing, but in a way I can relate. There's a lot of pressure in this job even if it's just in the back of your mind and not in the front. We're not just going into a job where nothing actually bad happens if you don't perform. But that's also my source of inspiration and motivation. I'm going to be fucking good at it and do my best, because someone's gotta do this job and if I don't do my best horrible things can happen.
The other source of inspiration for me is the sheer cool factor of flying. The 757 is the sexiest plane on the ramp. It's a legendary plane that in a couple decades younger pilots will be in awe that we got to fly it, in the same way we like to ask the old timers about what it was like to fly the L1011 or 707. And flying jets in general is just cool. All the switches, the sounds, the smell of burning jet A, the hustle and bustle of busy airport taxiways, that vibe when the controllers are clicking and everything is running smoothly, when you can hear the satisfaction in the controllers voice, that feeling you get after a successful flight and landing through some challenging weather, when your shooting an approach to minimums and the runway lights appear in front of you, when your pulling off the runway and you have to try not to fist pump, when your pushing up the thrust levers and getting pushed back into your seat with the city skyline in the distance, when your cruising over a flat overcast with a full moon, the flashes of an active lightning storm off in the distance, shooting stars, when the mountain tops poke above the clouds, the sunsets, the sunrises, and all the beautiful things you see that you wish you could share with your loved ones.
Maybe your self diagnosis is correct. My opinion is that you'll probably feel better as you fly more. 2000 is relatively low time to be flying 121 767s. I had 6000 flying CRJs before. But that means your good at what you do. You wouldn't have made it this far this quickly if you werent. Especially if you keep getting compliments. You should believe them. They aren't telling you your doing it right just to gas you up. If you were fucking up they would tell you. Keep doing what you're doing. Better to have a humble attitude than overconfidence anyways.
Oregon-Pilot@reddit
Thanks for the kind words and perspective! Great post to wake up to. And I definitely agree that itās extremely satisfying, and Iām fortunate to someday be able to look back when the 757 is no longer flying and think that I flew it for awhile.
DatBeigeBoy@reddit
Bro. Youāre a pillar that stands for mental health in Aviation. To be able to recognize that, even with the choice to still be able to fly is so admirable. I admire that.
Pallymorphic@reddit (OP)
Wow, thanks for sharing your story. That's so wild, I can't even begin to imagine how that felt. I was enlisted AF, but absolutely did not experience anything like you did. Good on you for not only realizing something was wrong, but taking the steps to get help. That's incredible.
QuantumDriver@reddit
Oh my god have you written a book?
554TangoAlpha@reddit
Incredible story, thanks for sharing. Took some serious balls to do what you did.
Resident_Report_5854@reddit
This story is moving. We thank you for sharing.
AdamScotters@reddit
I was navy. You really feel like youāre left to battle your demons alone. If you try to seek outside help it can mean being grounded forever. Thanks for sharing and Iām glad you got help.
BeeDubba@reddit
Thanks for sharing. That was an extremely difficult decision you made, and I'm sure your family is better off with a safe and happy you.
I decided to get out of flying helicopters after a couple of scary incidents. Significant to my decision, similar to yours, was my concern about my young children. I've made peace with my decision, but a year out of it I'm starting to miss the freedom that type of flying provided.
IGotRangod@reddit
A few months ago, started losing oil pressure flying near the grand canyon at night. ATC declared an emergency for me and I made an emergency landing at an unfamiliar airport in the dark (luckily got the lights on). Checked the oil the next morning and I was down to 1qt left. Didn't really hit until the adrenaline wore off how lucky it was.
And a few days ago, landing with a gusty 35-45kt crosswind was a little nerve wracking, but ended up just fine :)
vtjohnhurt@reddit
Probably the time I was scared was as a passenger in an impromptu XC in a CPL's recently acquired Citabria. I'd known the guy for years and a few years earlier, I'd done my glider discovery flight with him. After five minutes of flying at what I felt was too low over an unlandable mountain valley, I feigned air sickness, so we returned asap to the departure airport. I would have been fine if we'd flown several thousand higher. The idea of 'betting on the engine' was new to me.
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
First unsupervised solo. My instructor was up in the practice area with another student. I was supposed to practice takeoffs and landings after I did 3 supervised solos the week before. I had 14 hrs total time at this point. He said alls good. Have fun. In the time between when he took off and I was at the end of the runway (45 mn), the wind picked up to 15G to 22 and 40Ā° crosswind (I found this out later). As I rolled down the runway with 0 xwind aileron into the wind a gust picked up the right wing 15 kts below vr. I rolled over the grass off the runway, airborne with the nose coming up and the stall horn blaring. I yelled out loud " get the fucking nose down" the horn stop squawking but everytime i pulled back on the yoke the horn went off again. I was only 100' in the air. Now finally building speed and climbing, with absolutely no experience landing in xwinds, I realized I had to get it back on the ground. I made two attempts without any xwind correction applied, so I was blown completely off the centerline back over the grass. On the third try, I lined up way upwind and let the wind push me back to the centerline. I landed hard, and the 150 scooted around both sides of the centerline until I got it stopped. How I didn't shit myself I will never know. The entry in my log book is almost unreadable. I was shaking so much. Needless to say, I had very serious talk with my instructor about me flying in conditions I had never seen before. Also, for quite a while I was scared to death to fly on a windy xwind day. He finally caught on, and we flew on every windy day until I got past it. Finished my private at 42 hrs.
DanTheAirplaneMan@reddit
Heh that's why they make crosswind landing and takeoff required presolo maneuvers. Some cfis pencil whip it but I make sure my students have landed in some tough wind first, to avoid this experience. Good job getting down and back in one piece though!
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
Thanks, yeah that was what the serious discussion was about!. That was 41 years ago! Time really flies. I ended up given 700hrs dual in the 150.
DanTheAirplaneMan@reddit
That's awesome, 150 is a great aircraft! I'm guessing you taught your students crosswind techniques hahaha
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
I was a starving college student, we didn't cancel much! lol
ImminentDebacle@reddit
Nice.
Ok-Selection4206@reddit
Boy, I sure didn't think so at the time
ImminentDebacle@reddit
I bet! Not sure I'd have been as successful as you. It's a great story to tell.
the37ngskibidi@reddit
I got rolled from wake turbulence once from a departing heavy 777 in a CRJ200. We had proper timing and spacing and everything. Can still happen even following wake turbulence avoidance technique. Be conservative and donāt disregard underestimate wake turbulence
Little_Function3346@reddit
My First Solo (which was at approx. 45 hours).
Took off and forgot to close the window (even looked at the check list) - was tunnel visioned.
My first landing was "ok", but my second landing... I bounced, hard. Hit the pavement again but off to the side, and then almost landed crooked into the grass. Went full power, recovered and went around. Landed better after the go around, but I was shaking hard.
Rattled me for a few days, but was a very awakening experience. The thing I realized the most out of that experience was that instinct and training took over in that moment. I didn't think, I just did.
I now have over 400 landings, \~120 hours, and I still struggling with landings!
Eharmz@reddit
Taxiing behind a southwest 737 at KAUS in a cessna 150 getting broiled alive.
Little_Function3346@reddit
My very first lesson was in KAUS in a 172! Had a 737 behind me, I swear he was revving his engine at me at the hold short line like we were at a traffic light
Gusearth@reddit
which flight school did you attend?
Little_Function3346@reddit
I wish I could remember, this was back in 03, ended up quitting due to lots of excuses. Iām back at it now in Ft Worth and just about to finish PPL
Gusearth@reddit
awesome, thatās cool that you eventually picked it back up. I was just curious as Iām looking to start flight school and KAUS is the closest to me
Little_Function3346@reddit
Ah okay! Yeah, I'm glad I picked it up again. Most amazing thing ever. KAUS is an awesome airport. Great area too. Absolutely beautiful at night. Good luck in your flight adventure!
Mongoose151@reddit
Iām surprised you able to keep up with their taxi speeds.
thrfscowaway8610@reddit
Well, as long as it isn't Southwest, there's a chance at full throttle.
AltitudeEdge@reddit
When I was at the regionals, one night I was flying into a non-towered airport with automated weather. We checked the weather to prepare for the approach and it was calling the wind variable at 35 kts. That should have been my first indication that itās not a good idea to be flying into there. You sometimes get complacent when you mainly fly to large airports with windshear and microburst detection systems. So we had to hold for a while to see which direction the wind was prevailing so we could pick a runway to at least attempt.
After monitoring for a few minutes it seemed the wind was prevailing from the south so we set up for the south-east facing runway. On short final though we were indicating a 24 kts tailwind which was beyond our landing limitation so we elected to go-around. The plan was to go out a few miles, fly a teardrop and come in from the opposite side.
As we started to make the teardrop turn, we were about 2000 AGL, it felt like we had a mid-air collision. We didnāt actually hit anything but there was a sudden jolt of turbulence so bad that it felt like we did. Iād call it severe, borderline extreme turbulence, far in excess of anything Iād experienced before or since. We ended up pitched down about 20 degrees but in a slight climb. We were well above stall speed but got a stick shaker and stall warning. We got negative gās which caused a loss of oil pressure in both engines and I thought they were going to both quit. The turbulence was so strong I got the wind knocked out of me and my eyes were shaking in their sockets so hard I could barely see. I honestly thought to myself āwell, this is how Iām gonna go.ā I really thought that was it.
This all lasted about 10 seconds and I was able to re-gain control of the aircraft and then it all stopped as quickly as it began. Iām pretty sure we flew through a microburst. Needless to say we didnāt attempt another approach and returned to our departure airport as it was also our alternate. The passengers had no problem with that decision.
Brambleshire@reddit
Can I ask what airport that was?
AltitudeEdge@reddit
KLBF, North Platte Nebraska
Altec5499@reddit
Whenever I start to feel confident flying.. something humbles me and brings me back to earth. Flying with anxiety keeps me sharp. Complacency will kill you. Last night I was brought back down. Stay sharp people
calvinb1nav@reddit
This...
Pallymorphic@reddit (OP)
What happened last night??
DisregardLogan@reddit
Unintentionally got into a spin in a shitbox C150 roughly 4000 ft above the ground on base leg in the pattern. With a frozen lake, railroad tracks, and forest under us.
Wasnāt even an Aerobat either. One of those flights where you wish youād stayed on the ground
IncreaseOk8433@reddit
PPL training early 2000's, London International Airport. 1st in line for takeoff on taxiway Delta, whilst watching a WestJet 737 on final. Being the wise new pilot that I was, I requested an extended delayed takeoff out of fear of wake turbulence caused by the 737. Watched as it slowly rolled by, taxxied all the way down to Alpha and turn off. Waited another full 2 mins and rolled out to rock.
Immediately found my little Cessna airborne and angled at 45Ā° at about 150' and heading for the 737. Throttled up to fly away from disaster like there were angels under my wings, and I'm not religious. I could see horrified faces in the window seats over the wing.
To this day, I think about how I almost made the news in the most spectacular of ways.
Brambleshire@reddit
That last one came really close to getting you.
AnnualWhole4457@reddit
Hitting severe turbulence yesterday. Real severe. Freight dog reporting it to ATC and writing it up severe. Lost control of the airplane completely for a solid 4 seconds. Started with a 500fpm updraft, then an extremely sudden downdraft that pushed me down 600ft. Sudden violent uncommanded yaw and roll, while rattling the fillings out of my teeth. Felt like I was driving a worn out farm truck at 80mph down a washed out road. Only lasted 5-6 seconds. Made me shit a little bit and actually hurt my back.
Cold front with thundersnow was coming through and I think a mountain wave over a perpendicular ridgeline evolved into a violent rotor just as I was getting to it.
Brambleshire@reddit
Thank God I've never experienced turbulence like this.
Yellowtelephone1@reddit
I started climbing Mount stupid.
Freshly instrument rated I took an archer solo at night in hard IMC. Got iced up and scared the shit out of myselfā¦ no autopilot either btw.
Oregon-Pilot@reddit
Honestly the most scared I get is the back of a 737 in a middle seat and everyone closes their damn window shade and we takeoff and we are ripping side to side and bouncing up and down, and I canāt see a damn thing outside. I had this happen months ago and found myself literally sweating and finally, after 32 years of living, I understood peoplesā fear of flying.
2ndSegmentClimb@reddit
I have a few but too tired to type them out now. Maybe tomorrow. Fantastic lead story by OP. Well done for working to find a solution to your anxiety. And being ok with it now that you are not flying. Creating those moments to get yourself better, when the entire aviation community is telling you to be quiet, is very impressive!! So happy you got what you needed to be good. šš¼
OnToNextStage@reddit
Flying
A single engine
On a moonless night
Through the mountains
And a turbulence SIGMET pops up in flight
NastyWideOuts@reddit
Yep, been there. For me it was about 5am in the winter in Wyoming. A cross country from CPR to COD in a 172. It was about -20F outside and there is one airport of any between the two airports. Thankfully, no SIGMET on this flight, but we did get some unexpected IFR. But on a moonless night with zero lights on the ground, itās basically all IFR anyways.
ImminentDebacle@reddit
Yep, that'll do it.
v1_rt8@reddit
When I was an instructor, I had a student who wanted to learn how to fly as a way to get over his fear of heights and flying. It was a slow process but he studied the material, was consistent and was actually making progress.
We had moved on from basic flight maneuvers (turn, climb, descend, and combinations of them) and we're starting to introduce stalls.
He kept getting a little uncoordinated, and I was giving the usual CFI "Right rudder!"
Well, on a power-on/departure stall he starts getting uncoordinated again, so I hint "You need some rudder input" and it felt like we got more uncoordinated, as if he pressed the left rudder pedal. I say, "Right rudder.. Right. RIGHT" and then he says "Right?" and still uncoordinated, he snaps the yoke full right, exactly when the stall breaks.
Immediately, and violently, the 172 rolls over into a spin. The view of the ground fills the windshield, and I'm yelling "MY AIRCRAFT MY AIRCRAFT MY AIRCRAFT" while he's frozen at the controls, still full throttle, yoke full aft and cross controlled. I'm pulling on his fist trying to get him to let go or at least pull back on the throttle by pulling his hand back.
He lets go, I yank the throttle to idle I'm still screaming "MY AIRCRAFT MY AIRCRAFT," now fighting his left arm to get it off the yoke. I remember how striking it was to hear the speed of the air as we accelerated through it without the accompanying roar of an engine that usually drowns it out.
I get his arm off the yoke, I'm able to stop the spin and now I'm slowly getting out of this shortcut we were taking to the ground.
I level off, get back into normal cruise at our new altitude. I had tears in my eyes. I wasn't emotionally upset, but it was such a high stress moment. I don't remember how much altitude we lost, but I'm sure I made a note of it in my logbook.
I didn't want my student to quit, so I immediately go back to CFI mode. I explain that was the spin we had talked about the in the preflight briefing and the importance of staying coordinated. However, it's probably best if we head back to the airport and call it a day.
I had him fly back and land. I was afraid that he would give up if I "took away" the rest of his flight and didn't get him "back on the horse." He flew back fine, landed fine and we had our normal post flight briefing, with emphasis on aircraft coordination and spins.
He came by the flight school a few weeks later with a C6 Z06. He told me he decided he wouldn't continue flying lessons. No hard feelings, he is happy he at least tried. He spent the rest of his flight school savings to buy the Corvette instead. He invited me to take the keys and have a bit of fun with it, but unfortunately I was waiting for a student and I couldn't take him up on the offer to take it for a spin (pun intended).
FlyJunior172@reddit
I legitimately hyperventilated in my first few lessons because I was terrified by power on stalls. It was driven by lack of understanding (and a rightful fear of spins).
It turns out the solution was simple: do some stalls and spins in the third person. Started with one of these, and then went to one of these without the safe mode, and a now discontinued Archer. Seeing stalls and spins like that made it all make sense and fixed my problem in a hurry.
Less-Zookeepergame-5@reddit
Being with idiotic flight instructors except one CFII that I flew with once. He was awesome lol
unrealme1434@reddit
Climb out on the return leg home on my first solo xc, engine started making funky sounds at 1,000 AGL, over a reservoir surrounded by dense forest. I suppose I could have done a 180 and returned to the field but I just leveled out, pulled the mixture out a little and then back in and it stopped making strange noises. Had a small panic attack and then called BDL approach for flight following. Was nervous as fuck the entire way back home, my instructor asked why I was shaking when I saw him back in the flight school post flight.
turkintheus@reddit
Out of 4B8?
unrealme1434@reddit
KORE-KHFD
adiabaticgas@reddit
2003-ish. Second solo āarea flightā at about 20 hours TT from HWD out to the valley and around Mt. Diablo. Having a grand old time, even snapping a selfie with my Motorola ācamera phoneā which was a super new deal at the time. I had enough stick and rudder skills to cruise around without issue, and I was quick on the radios due to all of my training taking place under the SFO Bravo. No problems.
SOP was to tune the ATIS over Dublin or San Ramon and then call the tower directly when Iām about 10 miles out. No NorCal involved back then. Looking ahead, the weather had started to get ugly. ATIS reported scattered clouds at 1500 and a ceiling of 2500. 2500 feet was coincidentally the altitude that I would usually cross the Dublin grade before putting in a notch of flaps and letting my aircraft sink under the OAK Charlie before I got too close. OK, no problem, Iāll dip down before I get to these clouds.
Well, thatās what I thought, until I heard the winds. Almost a direct crosswind of about 20 knots (no big deal flying around the bay) and then my heart sank: they had switched the flow and were now landing 10s instead of 28s. I had NEVER made this approach one time, and I knew Iād probably only have one good shot at it with the weather coming in fast. The right decision would have been to exercise my PIC authority and drop in to Livermore and wait for someone to pick me up. But in my teenage brain, I was afraid of disobeying my solo limitations to land only at HWD and OAK.
I didnāt bust the Charlie and I put it down on 10L. Another hindsight: should have asked for the big runway at a minimum. It was a very rough and noisy landing and I was scared that I may have broken the plane somehow. Luckily no issues, but the chief pilot was waiting on the ramp for me and asked if I had weather and crosswind minimums in my solo endorsement. I didnāt fly for a couple of weeks after.
glaz5@reddit
Honestly ive always had a bit of anxiety flying, but i found that it helped more than hurt me. I always cared about doing things right, took extra precautions for safety, and trained hard to do well. I never failed a checkride and had a couple potential emergency situations become non events because i knew the checklist and standards like the back of my hand. Id take all that over being complacent anyday.
That being said, the balance is important. Flying truly isnt for everyone and if it anxiety is so much that you're panicing or constantly stressed, its important to consider other options.
bluemustang02@reddit
First solo XC in private, decided to climb as high as I could. Got hypoxic, vision down to a peephole as I nosed dived down to a low altitude. Was thinking about landing in a field. Luckily I was very close to me destination airport. Scud ran my way home Lol.
Last_Alaskan@reddit
Early in my career I was flying 3 professional wrestlers to a fishing lodge in a cessna 180. They were completely shitfaced by the time we left... They were having an argument who would win a sweet fight. Fists were thrown, I was clobbered with a cross intended for someone else. I'm not sure how long I was knocked out for. I had a laceration that was causing blood to get in my eyes. I managed to land, tossed their luggage in the water at the dock and proceeded to get 4 stitches.
Notable-Oatmeal@reddit
VFR into IMC in a rented 172 a week after getting my PPL (busy NY airspace getting vectors for traffic inbound to KISP)ā¦ initiated a standard rate 180 over the Long Island Sound to exit the wall of clouds and was not expecting to pop out the bottom in a 50Ā° bank with a view of nothing but water and the airspeed in the yellow arcā¦ started my instrument training the following day!
clearingmyprop@reddit
Unforecasted severe turbulence out of RNO.
+/- 30ish knots of windshear
Banging head into the ceiling repeatedly
Near over speed to stall warning within seconds of each other
Feeling the g load and unload while the turbulence induced uncontrollable roll was truly sickening.
I remember at one point on the worst point in the turbulence my coffee flew out of the cup holder and was eye level with me spilled in the side cubby and turned it into a cubby full of coffee destroying the paper QRH, and phone charger that was in it.
Leaving 13,000 feet it transitioned to the smoothest air Iāve ever felt. Wrote up the airplane when we landed to get inspected. They found some missing screws but it was undetermined if turbulence caused that or if they were missing before.
I remember seeing our crosswind component was around 80 knots at 3000 feet AGL.
Whole thing lasted like 3 minutes but I felt like passenger nearly the whole time. I really really hypothesize the PC-12 that went down in that storm a few years ago experienced something similar.
We reported severe and the JSX 145 reported severe behind us as well.
0/10 would not do again
CantConfirmOrDeny@reddit
Had maybe 150 hrs on my PPL flying back from Arkansas to Denver. Weād been delayed by WX getting off the ground in Searcy, so it was (yes) a very dark night by the time we got to western Kansas. FSS had forecast āscatteredā thunderstorms moving eastward, nothing too serious. As we passed Goodland, it was pretty obvious those āscatteredā storms were more like a solid line of continuous lightning moving fast, faster than my modestly-equipped Cherokee. Turned around and dove for the runway at GLD, only to be facing a 50-kt headwind on final. It was straight down the pipe, but it looked like, even with a 15-kt groundspeed, Iād be on the ground before things got really interesting, so that was the plan.
It took so long on final that the pilot-controlled lighting timed out. And then it wouldnāt come back on no matter what. I ended up calling the FSS in Wichita, and they got the lights back on for me. God bless having actual humans in the FSS!
The only truly scary part of all this was the turn off the runway to go park. I was actually worried that 50-kt wind might flip my little plane over. It didnāt.
jobadiah08@reddit
I can think of 2 instances in my ~350 hours.
1) night over the southwest US desert. Got caught in some bad mountain rotor. Combined with the black hole desert, was rather disorienting. Said, "F this" and flew the 10 minutes back home.
2) Flight home from a day trip with the wife and kids. In cruise, all of a sudden the engine starts running rough and EGTs went up a lot. I was likely just out of glide distance from the nearest airport. Enriching the mixture smoothed out the engine, but not being able to get the engine running smoothly at normal fuel flow was worrisome. Since home airport wasn't far past nearest airport with an FBO, elected to take it home but staying in glide distance to somewhere just in case. Turned out a magneto died, but I didn't realize that in the moment.
nadi207@reddit
Decided to take my 172 on a 100 mi XC with reports of moderate turbulence down low from airliners shortly after getting my PPL. I got my ass kicked for just over and hour up there just to have a direct x wind on the only runway of 35 knots. Gave it about 10 seconds of a shot on approach and decided to just go home. On the way home, it was even worse. Getting pushed up and down 500 feet without being able to do anything about it. Got home, 40 knots straight down the runway. Got out, kissed the ground. Never took a turbulence report lightly again.
Dry-Horror-4188@reddit
I have had a few times where I had the Butt Pucker Experience.
Lost an engine on climb out of KFUL Runway 6. In a rush to get to KEMT to pick up instructor so I didn't top off my Cherokee. My plane was light and I climbed up to about 1000 AGL when it quit. I made the 180 called the tower and let them know I was coming back. Last thing I remember them saying was they would roll the equipment for me. I made it but didn't have enough momentum to get off the runway.
Scud running over the ocean between Ventura VOR and Catalina. I was trying to get around LAX class B. I was maybe 800 to 1000 msl and looked down to see container ships trekking to China below me. That was my motivation to get my IR.
Was sitting in the right seat of a Bonanza when we were flying in IMC over Central CA. Looked up to the windshield to see it covered in ice, looked to the right wing and we were rapidly picking up ice. My first thought to myself was my wife would be pissed if I went down in a plane. When I let the pilot know he immediately started to climb. We got up about 2,000 feet before the Bonanza couldn't climb anymore. Ice accumulation slowed down but we were still getting it. Finally Oakland Center let us know that an Embraer Brasilia was about 20 miles ahead of us and they descended to 6,000 and were out of icing. We proceeded on down but as we did icing started accumulating again. We made it to 6K and the icing stopped. It slowly melted away but didn't completely melt away until we landed in Santa Rosa.
All three were my scariest flights.
MangoAV8@reddit
Grab a chair.
Combat mission off the boat, night landing with a fuel state just barely above minimums but completely āblue waterā, so no divert. Was on an amphib so no tanker either. Was mentally tired after being behind tankers all night and borderline complacent with the ship always giving us 10-15 knots down the deck. Called the ball and took my āhover stopā to start decelerating for the landing at my usual .7 or so from the boat. Normally Iād have around 85-90 knots of ground speed, and would work of the remaining 15-20 knots in the cross to the hover and follow on landing. This night, for some reason I wasnāt scanning ground speed, or I would have seen that it was 110 and barely slowing down. Started to make out the superstructure in the night haze (we landed on goggles) coming way too fast. Realized that the boat was running with a tailwind and tried to save it. Got the āslow it downā¦slow it downā¦wave off!ā from paddles with around 1000# of gas onboard.
Turned crosswind with both left and right fuel low lights on steady (750# +/- 250) and got the left flasher (250# +/- 50) on downwind. Right flasher came on off the abeam. Harrier burns roughly 250ppm in a hover, 120ppm or so gear and flaps down, and the quick math wasnāt mathing that I would make it. Got cleared to land on downwind and that was the last time I heard paddles. Whole ship tower freq got super quiet, almost like the whole ship expected the ELT to be the next thing they heard when I ejected. Took the most direct line to the port edge of the round down, made sure closure was somewhat under control, got over the deck and kicked the tail over close-ish to the tram line and brought it down.
As soon as I landed and paddles said ājust stay there, weāre going to chock and chain you on the spotā I felt my heart beating out of my chest. Normally Iād be self critiquing my pass as an LSOā¦that night, I didnāt care if I got benched, I was just glad to be on deck. Blue shirts did their thing and I shut down, with literally every bit of adrenaline dumping at once. Legs started shaking and I needed about 30 seconds to compose myself as the motor spooled down. Slowly stood up and climbed out of the jet and one of my Marines asked how much gas to ask the fuels folks for. I looked him dead in the eye and said āall of itā and he laughed. When he looked at the fuel DDI (it reads in increments of 50), he did a double take and looked down at me. Saw 0000 on the right side, 0050 on the left. Probably had around 5 gallons in the linesāenough to hover for maybe another 10 seconds before it flamed out.
Never did that again and can relive it close to 16 years later like it was last night. Iāve had nearly everything fail on me in that jet short of having to eject, and that easily tops the list of jump jet adventures. Years later when I had my own ship based detachment we deviated from the standard radio calls to ALWAYS tell the pilots landing if they had a tailwind and a sugar call to watch their ground speed.
Mercury4stroke@reddit
My first time going solo in the practice area the weather dropped to OVC008 out of the blue. My instructor signed me out, we both checked the weather, all was well and the forecast was showing VFR all day. I noticed the layer forming beneath me about 45 minutes into the flight and decided to head back. The clouds kept getting thicker on my way back so I decided to go through a hole and get under the layer. I was maybe 800 feet off the ground, I called ATC and they couldnāt get me on radar. At this point I was the only plane on frequency and the only plane in the air as the flight school grounded the fleet. I had no idea where I was because under the layer the visibility was maybe 4 miles and I couldnāt get vectors in. I was terrified. After circling over the nearby city for maybe 5 minutes, ATC saw me for a few seconds and gave me a general heading to fly towards the field and cleared me into their airspace. I followed it and eventually I had the field in sight and landed without any problems.
I received a bit of a heroās welcome when I walked back in to the flight school. Easily the most scared Iāve ever been while flying. Doing all that at 25 hours was nerve wracking beyond belief but I learned a lot and looking back on it Iām very grateful for the experience.
ImminentDebacle@reddit
Cheers to that big dog.
AccidentCommon208@reddit
First time in imc. Between the motion sickness and disorientation and a shitty instructor. It was horrible and scary.
jtyson1991@reddit
During instrument or private?
AccidentCommon208@reddit
Instrument
Lazypilot306@reddit
Mod turb + icing in a 172 while IMC. Just started a descent and told ATC what we were doing and why. Cancelled the clearance and returned VFR. The landing also wasnāt very fun as there was some wind shear. I started treading more lightly after that and saying āNo we aināt going up today sorryā.
Santos_Dumont@reddit
Over TwentyNine Palms at night, pitch black with nothing on the horizon, airspeed 140kts ground speed 90kts, wondering if something is wrong with my instruments. I realized that if anything was wrong with the engine the only thing I could do was dive into the black.
I avoid flying at night now in a single engine piston.
Head_Importance931@reddit
Roger that night owl
Head_Importance931@reddit
Many a time in my 30 year crop dusting career.
thrfscowaway8610@reddit
Cruising at 6,500' in a piece-of-**** rented C150, the engine suddenly dropped to about 1,800 RPM, with little surges to 2,000. All the normal corrective expedients made no difference. Slowly losing height, I pointed toward the nearest airport, only for the engine to pack up completely while I was on left downwind. Set the thing down OK in a very strong headwind, and required to be towed off the runway.
Afterwards I was told that they found a lot of debris swilling around in the bottom of the carb. Shortly after that, I bought my own aircraft. If I fly, I want it to be in something that I know is properly maintained.
2dP_rdg@reddit
first cross country as a PPL... turbulence knocked out the radios (loose wiring).. squawked 7600 .. turned for nearest charlie airport.. it was no big deal until I was like "i have no idea what light signals mean what..." radios came back just long enough to talk to the tower and get cleared to land.. and then they got knocked out taxiing..
and then once my engine turned off. but it came back.
but mostly it was the first time I had to talk on the radio.
Dry_Statistician_688@reddit
In Navy Primary pilot training, watching another T-34C overshoot a TACAN approach and the ādotā getting larger, turning into the silhouette of another aircraft, me screaming at the IP, āAircraft 10 oāclock, factorā¦ (no answer), aircraft, 10 oāclock, do you see it, Sir?!ā. I remember just grabbing the controls to do anything before dying, only to hear him say āI got it, Goddamit!ā. Yeah, this instructor was a total ass. One of those who brief the required rules but never follow them after wheels-up. I remember that other T-34 passing us so close, I could see the details of how the studentās comm cord was velcroāed to their helmet as they missed us by maybe 50 ft. We were on established final. They were practicing IMC. Of course nothing was done about this rogue IP who had a reputation of being a dangerous, arrogant a$$. I was totally happy to accept a āPink Sheetā because it meant I would never fly with him again.
BeeDubba@reddit
I flew helicopters for thousands of hours in the Coast Guard, with LOTS of hours IMC. On two separate spatial disorientation occasions I probably would have flown the helicopter into the ground had it not been for the other pilot.
On one of them I was staring at my attitude indicator, knowing which was the horizon, but it was like someone else was controlling my hands and trying to push the nose towards the ground (it was a false horizon on a super dark night caused by a beach). Instant loss of all kinesthetic sense, nausea, and every sweat pore in my body opened wide. It was a minor event to everyone in the helicopter but me. Still terrifies me 10 years later.
Another time we got hit by a thunderstorm cell while trying to hoist someone out of the Gulf of Mexico in the middle of the night. From a 50' hover, instant zero-zero visibility, lightning, and 70kt winds which changed direction almost 180 degrees. We managed to recover while going backwards at 50 knots 13 feet from the water. Still terrifies me 5 years later.
Did I mention that I stopped flying helicopters?
conodeuce@reddit
The incident that propelled me to get my instrument rating, thirty years ago. I was a fairly low time private pilot who moved across the country to Seattle. Being a newcomer to the Pacific Northwest, I did not understand how quickly powerful autumn storms can sweep the area. Having arrived in the famously beautiful Seattle summer, I spent a lot of time exploring the region in my little Cessna 140. In the fall I decided to fly down to California. Just me, no passengers.
On the final leg of the return trip, I observed a squall line coming in from the west, approaching Mount Rainier, but still about thirty miles away. Didn't seem to be moving all that fast, so I thought I'd just fly past it. Not a great idea, it turns out. I was soon enveloped by a galloping mass of cloud and rain.
Private pilots are give some cursory instruction about flying on instruments in case we should ever happen to, through bone-headedness, encounter IMC. Initially, I was in panic mode. The airplane seemed to be gaining speed as if it was nose down. So, I started pulling back on the yoke. And then I remembered about how the inner ear could be fooled when in the clouds (vertigo). I checked the airspeed indicator. I was just above a stall.
I got the nose down, then made sure to be scanning the airspeed indicator as well as the turn coordinator. The compass was doing a jig dance, due to the turbulence. Was useless.
As I had been getting flight following from Seattle Approach, I let the controller know my predicament. The gentleman calmly let me know that I was nearing high terrain (namely the volcano known as Mount Rainier). He gave me a vector to get me steered back to the lowlands. Given the almost useless compass, it was no small feat to maintain directional control.
Finally, a hole opened up in the storm. I spiraled down through it. The controller guided me to Thun Field in Pierce County, about 25 miles from Rainier. The storm was still raging, but I managed to get the plane landed. Wind gusts almost flipped me as I taxied to a tie down. I recall how surprised the patrons at the restaurant on the field seemed to be as this idiot taxied up, having been flying in a classic Seattle autumn storm.
This could so easily have ended with a fatality. I had considered myself to be a careful pilot. No, I was a foolish nitwit. As soon as I could, I upgraded to an aircraft that was sufficiently equipped to handle flying in IMC. And I really enjoyed the instrument training. You can imagine how much I appreciated learning those skills.
BeeDubba@reddit
Glad you made it out alive. Those kind of storms can and do kill pilots, instrument rating or not!
I personally think that every pilot should be instrument rated. There are countries that do not allow VFR at night. That's also something I can get onboard with.
PutOptions@reddit
I wasn't super nervous about first solo -- at least after getting started up. I had almost 30 hours by then, so that likely helped confidence wise. First solo XC was scared as shit, but for no real good reason.
I had a good scare right after changing into my own new-to-me plane but post PPL. Returning from a XC solo, a front came through much earlier than forecast. The XW component was greater than demonstrated by a couple knots. I just kept prepping myself to go around which I had to the first two times. Full rudder was not enough. I finally figured out that if I landed LONGER, the hangars would block out a bunch of the XW.
The biggest scare I had was a sudden traffic alert at about 400ft on climb out from an uncontrolled field. "Traffic! 12 o'clock! 1/2 mile! Same altitude!" My nose is high with no forward visibility, so I just haul it over to the right and push. And then start screaming on CTAF. WTF the guy was doing puttering around on the departure end at that altitude I will never understand. It took what felt like hours to separate from the guy but I eventually manage to climb away from him. I was shaking and cursing the whole ride home.
acefire117@reddit
The rear canopy of my glider was unlatched and loudly blew off on takeoff. Only time Iāve ever flown in a convertible.
DarthStrakh@reddit
My first solo flight cylinder 1 decided it wanted to start misfiring like a mf. When I pulled power out from anything but full throttle it L Shook the plane so bad I couldn't even read the instrument panel let alone reliably fly it. Spent like 20min fucking with the fuel mixture then decided to just come in fast and low, turn off the engine and climb to burn speed and dump flaps. It Just shook way to had to even try setting up a decent approach, and was worried about damaging the engine and having no power. It was just a cessna 150 so I could bleed speed off super super fast, the flaps on that thing might be too much tbh.
In hindsight I prob should just set myself up high, turned off the engine and done a power off landing but it was literally my first solo lmao. I wasn't confident enough I could get the engine back on, or setup the landing right. Either way I made it on the ground with everything in one peice so I'm content with my decision making at the time.
Miserable-Bit5939@reddit
I think this goes for some or maybe most pilots, but I was really scared on my discovery flight. Of course, it was my first time in the cockpit but I had an instructor who assured me everything will be fine. He was right, and we got back on the ground safely
Knockoutpie1@reddit
I wanted to tell my instructor to take the yoke on my discovery flight. š I didnāt tell him but I was sure thinking it!
Britishse5a@reddit
South wind 25 gust to 35, N/S grass runway was under water had to do a crosswind on E/W paved runway in an 800# biplane.
Wasatcher@reddit
When I was in CFI training and went up to practice maneuvers solo. Winds were chill on takeoff, when I came into land the crosswind component was so gnarly I was looking out the side window in the crab in a DA-20. Did two go arounds before I got on the ground and was one more away from diverting.
Good lesson on external pressures there. I probably should have just diverted but didn't want the owner of the plane to think I was a chump.
Pallymorphic@reddit (OP)
Glad you made it safe!
I commented on a post a while ago, but I had a snapped rudder cable, on my first solo with my new school about a year ago, with a healthy crosswind.
Long story short, took almost 2 years off mid PPL because money, came back. First solo in the pattern again, I felt/heard a snap turning left crosswind, but it was windy so didn't think much of it in the moment, maybe it was just turbulence. Turning base, realized rudder was barely working and finally put it together what the snap was. Came in fast and low, full stop on first go around. Thank goodness my instructor was awesome and taught me crab and wing low methods VERY well. Turns out it was a partial snap thankfully.
At the time I didn't think about the crosswind factor until later that night when I realized I could have died if I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. But turning left into that wind without rudder was, in hindsight, also scary.
Thank goodness for competent instructors!!
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Saw a post about interview questions and now I'm curious. When's a time you've been scared while flying?
I'm sure a lot can relate, but I think only time I've ever been truly scared was first solo. Instructor got out in the run-up after a few laps and said "ok, do 3 more". Holy shit was I terrified.
But after the first landing I had a newfound confidence. Now I LOVE flying solo, it's so nice and reminds why I keep slowly progressing towards a flying career while working.
What's your scared story and what was the outcome and/or your feelings after?
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