My mom’s friend gave me this, I heard this 560 Ti is rare?
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Need an anew power supply, but the motherboard has a built in Linux OS, why’d they stop doing that!!??
tempfoot@reddit
But can it run Crysis?
kwell42@reddit
Pretty much any card can, just depends on the resolution you want.
tempfoot@reddit
True! LOL
Shotz718@reddit
A single GTX 460 could pretty much max Crysis @ 1080p for me.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
That’s a good question, it was only a mid range card at its launch
tempfoot@reddit
It seems to think it can!
pronouncedEeeAn@reddit
Dress for the job you want, not the job you have.
BCProgramming@reddit
I played it without issues on my Core 2 Quad Q8200 using a 9800GT, A 560Ti surely runs at least one circle around that card.
InfaSyn@reddit
"Vintage computing" *proceeds to post hardware new enough to run windows 11*
SentientWickerBasket@reddit
The minimum system requirements for Windows really haven't changed all that much in 15 years.
InfaSyn@reddit
Pretty much. Realistically putting 11 on something with a gig of ram will be painful, but yeah, it’ll install
untamedeuphoria@reddit
That is an x58 system (workstation/enthusiest first gen i-series intell processor). It predates being able to run windows 11 by maybe 2 generations. Although they were gutsy beasts and should be able to handle it. I don't think they have anything within that gen with TPM
InfaSyn@reddit
You can quite literally run windows 11 on 775 if you try hard enough. X58 is more than capable.
untamedeuphoria@reddit
Oh I am aware that you can hack shit and the limitation is artificial from the microsoft cunts. I meant out of the box it's not compatible. I still love the x58 platform. I still use one system as an on sight backup, and another as the backbone to my ripping PC. That plaform stomps. So long as your tasks don't require any in silicon specialised capabilities. Like certain encryption
InfaSyn@reddit
Well officially support starts around the 2018/19 era hardware so X58 would be the better part of 10 generations behind, but yes, agree.
untamedeuphoria@reddit
Yeah, for the most part you're right. But there are few systems from around 2014 or so that use TMP sockets for upgradable TPM, for which you can get TMP2.0 modules. Which should give official windows 11 support. They are pretty rare from that era though.
InfaSyn@reddit
I believe there are still cpu blacklists below 8th gen even with tpm?
LSD_Ninja@reddit
I have a system that has a literal physical TPM 2.0 in it, but won’t officially update to Windows 11 because the 7th gen Core i5 on it isn’t on Microsoft’s list.
InfaSyn@reddit
Which is insane considering 8th was literally just a Kaby refresh. No major arch jump, just a slightly quicker memory controller and more cores as standard.
LSD_Ninja@reddit
Where it goes from insane to genuinely scummy is that MS actually makes specific exceptions for certain Skylake and Kaby Lake class processors. It's mostly HEDT stuff (7800X, 7820X, 9800X and a handful of "10th gen" branded models), but then you get to the 7820HQ which gets a pass only because Microsoft was using it in the Surface Studio 2 that was still for sale when they launched Windows 11.
InfaSyn@reddit
Thats hilarious, didnt know they did that. Thanks MS, very cool
pm_social_cues@reddit
x58 is from 2008/2009. Runs 1st gen Core i CPUs.
That is not close to the 8th gen minimum requirement for Windows 11.
They will remove the CPU bypass one day and people who installed with it will be stuck on some random version of Windows 11 with no available updates. How is that better than being stuck on Windows 10 with on available updates? It'll become just as obsolete.
InfaSyn@reddit
“How is being stuck on 11 with no updates better than 10 with no updates” - well you’re still several years ahead of where you could have been so it’s something 🤷♂️
Why not have a few extra years out of the hardware
ErikQRoks@reddit
The sub rules considers anything 15 years old vintage. This just about applies
LSD_Ninja@reddit
X58 and the Bloomfield Core i7s came out in 2008. We’re not quite 15 years out from the launch of the 6-core Gulftown i7s, sure, but that’s splitting hairs.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Yeah I know I know, more like legacy
Z8Michael@reddit
Very pretty system. Haven't seen one like this for a while.
Torkum73@reddit
I love the consistent color scheme with the beautiful blue ram modules and the blue accents on the mainboard. Nicely done!
Jamnation13@reddit
It's really cool to see another computer of this area when I was JUST working with my old Dell XPS 430 yesterday and getting it ready to list. It also has a Seasonic power supply like yours and a similar looking EVGA card (though mine is a 660). I've never seen 6 sticks of RAM in a consumer PC so that's really interesting too. Definitely some nice looking parts from a time before internal LED lighting really got popular. This would look really great with a glass side panel.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Yeah 6 sticks blew me away, this whole rig is just so interesting.
Subject-Ad9866@reddit
Nice to see these things are still out there... Similar to my rig... I'm still running i7 930 triple channel as well, it's been 12 or so years and still doing day to day workload. I had a 460 at first and still working at friends comp.
ORA2J@reddit
As for the linux OS, it's because it was crap and barely usable.
https://youtu.be/Q0h8wWlBxY0
LSD_Ninja@reddit
X58 has enough PCIe lanes that it’s running at x16 even in that slot (the white one underneath it is probably x8).
thatguychad@reddit
It's wild seeing the 6 slots for triple-channel memory.
Slayer-866@reddit
X58 platform is wild. Still rocking it here 🤘
Shotz718@reddit
Brother!
X58 forever!
Slayer-866@reddit
Only upgrade viable is X99 or better X299 💪
mondalex@reddit
While it's true we don't see six slots on mainstream consumer boards anymore, X58 wasn't really 'consumer-level' in the modern sense. It was a pioneering High-End Desktop (HEDT) platform. That's why it had the unique triple-channel setup. Later consumer boards moved to dual-channel, while HEDT continued to push for more memory bandwidth with quad-channel, as seen with 8 DIMM slots on platforms like X79, X99, and X299.
thatguychad@reddit
Good info, thanks
mondalex@reddit
You're welcome! Just to add, the actual consumer-level chipsets at that time, alongside X58, were the H55, P55, and H57.
jackintosh157@reddit
Intel core 1st gen had two platforms, LGA 1366 (also known as X58) used for HEDT and mainstream servers, and LGA 1156 used for mainstream consumer and low end server
mrdeathlad@reddit
Me, sitting here looking at my 8 sticks of quad channel memory on an x299 board, remembering the first pc I built on an x58 board and its 6 sticks like pictured above...
Triple and quad channel memory is rare. Everything is dual channel/dual rank or, I believe, dual channel/single rank if you go back far enough
computix@reddit
Consumer stuff is dual or quad channel.
Up to DDR4 it's dual 64 bit channels. With DDR5 it's quad 32 bit channels, two channels per module. With LPDDR RAM things become more complicated, for example Intel CPUs have Octa 16 bit channels with LPDDR5, while AMD CPUs have quad 32 bit channels. Apple Silicon CPUs have even more channels, the M3 Ultra has 64 16 bit memory channels for example.
Single and dual rank are still used and a lot of memory is single rank. Currently most memory modules up to 16 GB are single rank. 32 GB and larger modules are dual rank. While ranks can provide some speed advantage, they're mostly a function of the memory chip capacity used on the models.
chandleya@reddit
It was big standard for exactly one generation: first gen core I. The servers had 3 memory controllers per CPU, too.
WingedGundark@reddit
Yeah. I had one back in the day, although I didn’t have all them populated, 3 x 2GB sticks on them.
But 3 or 6 stick memory kits were widely available back then, like we now two and four stick kits are common.
thatguychad@reddit
Yeah, I remember it, but I was running an AMD processor at that time (I went to Intel for the 3rd gen of the Core i7.)
chandleya@reddit
We all bought one more Phenom X6 in hopes it wasn't terrible.
It was.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
This is very premium board, the prebuilt Linux OS would be very clutch in todays systems
darkelfbear@reddit
That "prebuilt" Linux OS is actually just a small partition on the first Boot Device of the system. ASUS used to do that a lot back in the day, it is severely outdated, with no way to upgrade it, as ASUS discontinued it. my old P&P55D-E EVO had this, it was fun and all, but after a while with things breaking because of being out of date.
b3rdm4n@reddit
560ti itself wasn't rare but a great value upper midrange in its day, the system however... Now that's a banger that could well be quite desirable and a great era for retor builds for 1st gen i7 / SLI / crossfire setups.
1275cc@reddit
This is called vintage computing?
I do like seeing hardware like this though.
DarthRevanG4@reddit
This a 1366? I would say this doesn't qualify as retro. My most powerful computer, and daily driver (when I'm not on my iPad) is 1366. A Mac Pro 5,1 to be exact. 96GB of RAM, nVME, Windows 11 and macOS 15 - Radeon RX 590. Nothing about this is retro IMO. It's essentially a modern PC in need of a GPU upgrade.
LSD_Ninja@reddit
The sign on the door says 15 years and older is fair game and this platform came out in 2008. The fact it doesn’t feel particularly “vintage” is mostly down to how a lot of this stuff has kind of stagnated over the last 20-25 years.
DarthRevanG4@reddit
Yeah, which should change the sign on the door a bit IMO.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Idk bro, the intel cpu is triple digits, and old enough to drive ¯_(ツ)_/¯
DarthRevanG4@reddit
And still plenty new enough for me to play cyberpunk 2077 and Jedi Survivor at relatively high settings with good FPS. I will die on this hill.
BCProgramming@reddit
I'm not finding anything about the motherboard having any sort of "built in" Linux. Seems like it would be mentioned in the manual somewhere?
hssnd@reddit (OP)
It’s called ASUS Express Gate
BCProgramming@reddit
Thanks, I was able to find it in the manual with that description.
I think describing it as a "built in Linux distro" while technically true sort of implies far more functionality than it actually has. It can't be updated so the browser and skype probably went out of date and became either unusable or harder to use fairly quickly. You can't install anything into it and it has limited hardware support, etc.
As for the reasons they stopped, The company that makes the OS, Splashtop, pivoted more heavily into remote support and even by the time this motherboard came out the OS was already discontinued.
Aside from it being discontinued, they probably stopped because it was one of those gimmick features that sounds a lot more useful than it is. This is particularly so as even back then it was fairly easy to get a "real" Live Linux installation onto a USB Flash Drive and boot into it directly, and anything you booted that way would be able to run more than a few 10 year old applications and would have much better hardware support.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Okay, I see. I didn’t know Linux could be outdated honestly. But the limited hardware support would be a problem. Thanks for the info!
ErikQRoks@reddit
Cathode Ray Dude on YouTube has a great series called Quick Start explaining why your motherboard has built in Linux and why it went away.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
I will watch!
Shaner9er1337@reddit
It's not rare a bunch were sold. Just because you don't see something for sale that doesn't mean it's rare.
Orbitalsp3@reddit
I sold my EVGA 570. I regret doing it but I was broke at the time
Computers_and_cats@reddit
That is quite the classy build. Antec 300 case is a nice touch. 👀
CrownVetti@reddit
Pretty much my computer from 2010s
Rage65_@reddit
That is a sick build! I don’t think the 580ti is rare but I do wish motherboards came with Linux installed it would be sick
William-Riker@reddit
Nice 1366 build. I had a similar one paired with a 570. I don't think the 560 Ti in general was rare, but perhaps this specific one is.
Is the PSU dead? Seasonic makes amazing power supplies. I seldom see them die.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
I don’t see any salads history on this, and was curious if it was really as rare as a YouTube video stated.
And it’s definitely dead, I plugged up another power supply and got it to boot.
omega552003@reddit
I think the Crisis edition was rare, 560ti wasn't.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Yeah I mean the crysis edition not the 560 ti
Chrunchyhobo@reddit
Wouldn't call it "rare", uncommon at best.
If a regular 560 Ti sells for around £20-30, you'd probably get £40-50 for this one.
Avoids the urge to buy it for my Fermi collection
hssnd@reddit (OP)
😂
vinnycthatwhoibe@reddit
dang triple channel memory
omega552003@reddit
I loved the x58/5520 chipsets
hssnd@reddit (OP)
Premium
LaundryMan2008@reddit
RDRAM?
Also 6 slots and Linux OS is some really cool stuff
InfaSyn@reddit
RDRAM was very early Pentium 4 era (circa 2003 ish). This is a 1366 system so will be DDR3.
LaundryMan2008@reddit
I just saw the metal and the clips and immediately thought it was RDRAM as we see it a lot in my work experience from old servers and PCs
hssnd@reddit (OP)
It’s really wild, and that it supports a maximum of 24gb so each stick is only 4, but I’m sure it cost a fortune for this bald when
sillygoose1274@reddit
Yo, my grandfather recently had a customer with the same PC! Different GPU and 2 less RAM sticks and PSU different.
siliconsandwich@reddit
where did you hear this? ask whoever that was. what makes you think the psu is in need of replacing?
…because it was pointless.
hssnd@reddit (OP)
I dropped a comment already
https://youtu.be/_5J5E_C3ahw?si=HCLWtQ33SiPgaD2L