case confirms Billy is a dick who was happy Apollo offed themselves
Karl found liable, not for rightfully calling him a cheater and a bully, but for saying Billy was directly responsible for the suicide
Goddammit Karl. That washed up fucking chode will ride this dick forever as vindication, and even though Karl dropped the ball, no one is gonna start liking Billy because the case confirmed he's a piece of shit.
Lesson learned, if you're gonna farm someone for clicks, stick to the facts and keep speculation out of it. And fuck Billy Mitchell.
I like the part where you completely gloss over the fact that Jobst's fans had no idea the lawsuit wasn't about the cheating allegations, and he kept hinting it WAS about the cheating allegations to get money to crowdfund his legal expenses.
I will stick my neck out and say I’ve been a Jobst watcher for 8 years, and I knew from the beginning what the case was about. He was pretty open about. Idk how people missed that key information (that it was about Karl calling Mitchell the primary cause of a suicide).
Man I'm not going to look through that shit for more than 5 minutes but I'll give it a shot. I have not looked into this at any time and all I know is what is in the videos that Karl posts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJi6uAstP4&t=1703s this was linked in a description of one of his other videos about the trial. Karl then said that Billy Mitchell was accusing him of accusing Billy Mitchell of murder in the video. I have a vague memory of that video saying that AL had to work so much to pay back Billy he killed himself. Karl has clearly subsequently edited the video.
In most other videos about his ongoing lawsuits, he talked about the letters he had received and the relevant videos, and the AL claim was usually in there. He downplayed it to be sure, but it was in there.
I've listened to all of Jobst's videos as background noise, and I can't remember if he even mentioned what the nature of the lawsuit was (ie allegations of suicide goading). I can remember the topic of cheating coming up again and again in reference to the trial, and I honestly thought it was about the cheating allegations. I wouldn't be surprised of the majority of his viewers were under the same assumption.
seems like karl thought if he could just keep proving the ways billy mitchell lied previously, and was a cheater, that it would get the court to look at billy's case against appollo as "revenge". but even if it was, he had no way of tying the settlement to the suicide, and kep doubling down on the billy videos to help that first point instead.
You remember when the twingalaxy lawyer fucked up and they had to drop their case but Jobst still made a YouTube video where he stated „we won“? At that point I knew this guy is as full of shit as Billi is.
Turns out that the defamation lawsuit wasn't because Karl accused Billy of cheating, it was because Karl accused Billy of pushing another dude to suicide. And while there is plenty of evidence to prove that Billy cheated in Donkey Kong, there is no proof that he caused someone to end themself.
TL;DR:
Karl accused Billy of causing someone to rope, had no evidence, lost
It was about cheating too, he got sued for that too. He was sued twice, once for the cheating, once for the Apollo Legend bit. Karl's old posts mention the two lawsuits.
The cheating one got thrown out, the AL one killed him.
What am I really confused about is where is the interaction from Billy about Apollo that LED Karl to even proposition that Billy caused his suicide? I wasn't even aware Billy knew about Apollo's existence
Billy sued AL and Karl repeatedly claimed that the financial consequences of that lawsuit pushed him to suicide. He made those claims without knowing they were true and even when given evidence suggesting it was untrue he doubled down.
Jobst tried to cop out by saying he issued a retraction, but the judge was basically like "nah fam if anything the retraction was aggravating because it wasn't released in a way that was likely to reach the original audience and you were still being a cunt in it".
The summary judgement is only like 20 minutes. It's worth watching if you care about discussing the case.
Without a Department of Education there literally will be no education at all. It's well known that government agencies named after something literally create that thing on Earth.
Bro you forgot a word or just didn't know it in the first place. I see the department got taken a way with absolutely no plan to replace or augment with something new. So ya, as someone from a civilized country that's pretty fucking crazy.
Test scores have gone down nearly every single year with the dept. of education
If your hand was rotting off from the wrist down, full gangrene, and you just now decided to do something about it, would you want to wait until the prosthetic is done, or would you want to get it amputated immediately and make do until the replacement comes?
"In civilized countries we are unable to conceive of creating something without the government telling us what to do. Government is literally the best at everything and politicians and bureaucrats are much smarter and more honest than regular people."
If they created a Department of Wiping Your Ass in a couple years people like you would be commenting "In a civilized country it's pretty fucking crazy to see a country where people wipe their own asses."
What? There are multiple examples of it being both singular and plural. The sections indicating singular fully admit it's fairly rare prior to the 16th century
I'm a bit sad to discover that a lot of B-rated american icons turned out to be full on frauds. I get the same vibe from Mitchell as I do from Seagal...
Huge in their time, turned out to be 95% "fake it till you fake it some more".
Well let's not go that far. Billy Mitchell is a very good video game player. He just thinks he's the best. He'd still wipe the floor with guys like us.
The Seagal vs. Van Damme. One dude is straight trying to look gay on screen, one is gay trying to look straight on screen, and to Gen X these dudes were peak straight/masculine rolemodels
Karl Jobst made a series of videos going over Billy Mitchell's various cheating scandals. Billy Mitchell has been called out for cheating by several people, and has had a history of suing these people for defamation. One of these people committed suicide, and it was believed to be because of the stress of the legal fees. Billy was also pretty insensitive about the news, and Karl interpreted that as Billy taking joy in said suicide.
Billy ended up suing Karl for defamation because the narrative he pushed in his videos was that Billy drove that YouTuber to suicide and was happy about it. Karl repeatedly lied to his audience by saying the lawsuit was about him calling Billy a cheater and crowdsourced funding for his legal fees under that pretense. The court ruled that there's not enough evidence to prove that Billy intentionally pushed the YouTuber to suicide, and that Karl's claim was intentionally made to slander Billy.
Billy Mitchell is a scumbag and a cheater, but Karl is also a massive scumbag for what he did, lying to his audience, and taking money from them under false pretenses.
Damn, thanks for providing context about what it was really about.
No, i didn't donate to Karl (King of the Ducks), but from watching some of his videos, i was under the impression that this was about Billy being called a cheater, not driving someone to suicide.
This was Australia in USA he has a legal argument that no reasonable person would see Karl's statement as a statement of fact but a statement of opinion and get dismissed instantly without any hearing of if it happened or not. This is also what media companies do
Statement of fact doesn't mean something is true it means you present something as not your opinion but as an undisputed truth.
Public figures get less protection in USA as well.
Trump won his lawsuit against ABC News because they called him a convicted rapist which would not be an opinion but saying a court ruled he was guilty which did not happen.
If the anchor just said Trump is a rapist, who eats babies, bends peoples iphone chargers, wants to murder every brown person, and prays to Hitler every night then the case would be dismissed as no reasonable person would view it as something other than the anchors opinion without looking into it it happened
The word convicted was enough to make ABC lose their case.
So Karl in a way got fucked by his own country, because I'm assuming based on this that Australia has a notably lower burden of proof when it comes to defamation? Am I understanding this correctly?
Not a lower burden of proof, but less exceptions. In the US, if you're a public figure the legal system realizes that people are going to talk shit so the burden of proof increases for those cases. Billy Mitchell is enough of a public figure that this case would have been harder for him to win in the US, but not necessarily impossible.
It should be noted that the judge flat out said that it was irrelevant if Billy was or was not a cheater because the case was only about whether or not Jobst had made defamatory statements to the degree that he should be penalized, which the judge felt he had.
I see, thanks for clearing that up. Is there an easy way to see what it was that Karl said specifically that caused the issue? I never really watched his videos and considering he lost I'm assuming part of that would be to take down the videos that mentioned the Apollo Legend stuff or at least to edit that out entirely. I would like to know what exactly he said before I draw a conclusion on if I think what Karl said SHOULD be considered defamatory or not, I don't want to immediately side with Billy because he's a massive asshole, but I don't want to side with Karl considering he lost, so he must've said SOMETHING that went too far.
Both Jobst and Billy are people who are willing to lie to their fans for money so fuck 'em both. I hope they both disappear under a rock and don't come back. Unless the damages go down on appeal he'll be paying this debt until the day he dies.
„TwinGalaxy lawyer fucked up and had to drop the allegations against Billy.“ but then still says „we won“. Fuck Billi, but Jobst is a fucking moron too.
Everyone knows Billy Mitchell is a cheater. I really don't know why someone would spend their life locked in a lawsuit over some fake record that's over 3 decades old and then completely lie to people about the true nature of the suit. Karl is the living embodiment of those "MR BEAST IS DONE FOR" type videos where they ride the same drama ad infinitum while also getting no where.
A proper case of FAFO for Karl Jobst.
If you really want to start shit with defamation, you need to have proof of what you're talking about.
If he stopped at shitting on Mitchell for the cheating he could have won or Mitchell itself would have dropped the lawsuit.
It definitely starts to get murky once you jump from the facts to your own interpretation and speculation around intentions and private knowledge. Karl fucked up massively, and worse yet, he crowd funded his legal fees under the pretense that this defamation case was only about him calling Billy a cheater.
RetroTheGameBro@reddit
Goddammit Karl. That washed up fucking chode will ride this dick forever as vindication, and even though Karl dropped the ball, no one is gonna start liking Billy because the case confirmed he's a piece of shit.
Lesson learned, if you're gonna farm someone for clicks, stick to the facts and keep speculation out of it. And fuck Billy Mitchell.
GuardianDom@reddit
I like the part where you completely gloss over the fact that Jobst's fans had no idea the lawsuit wasn't about the cheating allegations, and he kept hinting it WAS about the cheating allegations to get money to crowdfund his legal expenses.
koenigseggfire@reddit
I will stick my neck out and say I’ve been a Jobst watcher for 8 years, and I knew from the beginning what the case was about. He was pretty open about. Idk how people missed that key information (that it was about Karl calling Mitchell the primary cause of a suicide).
funkmon@reddit
I watch that guy's videos and I understood that it wasn't about the cheating entirely; a lot had to do with Apollo Legend.
GuardianDom@reddit
Lol, please link me a recent video where he says he's being sued for what he said about Apollo Legend.
funkmon@reddit
Man I'm not going to look through that shit for more than 5 minutes but I'll give it a shot. I have not looked into this at any time and all I know is what is in the videos that Karl posts.
10 minutes later (I know I lied):
Okay so I have 2 things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jfQZU3V6qo&t=406s The video where he talked about what was going to happen in trial talked about AL and the argument he was going to make.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppJi6uAstP4&t=1703s this was linked in a description of one of his other videos about the trial. Karl then said that Billy Mitchell was accusing him of accusing Billy Mitchell of murder in the video. I have a vague memory of that video saying that AL had to work so much to pay back Billy he killed himself. Karl has clearly subsequently edited the video.
In most other videos about his ongoing lawsuits, he talked about the letters he had received and the relevant videos, and the AL claim was usually in there. He downplayed it to be sure, but it was in there.
WheresTotoro@reddit
I've listened to all of Jobst's videos as background noise, and I can't remember if he even mentioned what the nature of the lawsuit was (ie allegations of suicide goading). I can remember the topic of cheating coming up again and again in reference to the trial, and I honestly thought it was about the cheating allegations. I wouldn't be surprised of the majority of his viewers were under the same assumption.
Hydraxiler32@reddit
I was a casual viewer and that was my assumption as well, never donated though
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
😬
RetroTheGameBro@reddit
Shit you right
MourningWallaby@reddit
seems like karl thought if he could just keep proving the ways billy mitchell lied previously, and was a cheater, that it would get the court to look at billy's case against appollo as "revenge". but even if it was, he had no way of tying the settlement to the suicide, and kep doubling down on the billy videos to help that first point instead.
Oaker_at@reddit
You remember when the twingalaxy lawyer fucked up and they had to drop their case but Jobst still made a YouTube video where he stated „we won“? At that point I knew this guy is as full of shit as Billi is.
Potatolantern@reddit
It was, he got sued for that too. He was sued twice, once for the cheating, once for the Apollo Legend bit.
The cheating one got thrown out, the AL one killed him.
EclipseOfNight@reddit
Wait did he really won the lawsuit ?
SaltyHater@reddit
Yeah.
Turns out that the defamation lawsuit wasn't because Karl accused Billy of cheating, it was because Karl accused Billy of pushing another dude to suicide. And while there is plenty of evidence to prove that Billy cheated in Donkey Kong, there is no proof that he caused someone to end themself.
TL;DR: Karl accused Billy of causing someone to rope, had no evidence, lost
TheCorbeauxKing@reddit
Maybe now we could finally stop getting those godawful Billy Mitchell drama videos.
Hydraxiler32@reddit
well he's like 400k in the hole + 5 years of legal fees so he's probably gonna keep pumping them out to try and milk his viewers for what he can lmao
Mottis86@reddit
And I'll still watch every single one of them. Regardless of what kind of person he is, his speedrunning videos are still 10/10.
DeepQueen@reddit
They should have stopped talking about that fraud over 30 years ago
Magsec5@reddit
No more legends.
Potatolantern@reddit
It was about cheating too, he got sued for that too. He was sued twice, once for the cheating, once for the Apollo Legend bit. Karl's old posts mention the two lawsuits.
The cheating one got thrown out, the AL one killed him.
Hatefiend@reddit
What am I really confused about is where is the interaction from Billy about Apollo that LED Karl to even proposition that Billy caused his suicide? I wasn't even aware Billy knew about Apollo's existence
0110-0-10-00-000@reddit
Billy sued AL and Karl repeatedly claimed that the financial consequences of that lawsuit pushed him to suicide. He made those claims without knowing they were true and even when given evidence suggesting it was untrue he doubled down.
Jobst tried to cop out by saying he issued a retraction, but the judge was basically like "nah fam if anything the retraction was aggravating because it wasn't released in a way that was likely to reach the original audience and you were still being a cunt in it".
The summary judgement is only like 20 minutes. It's worth watching if you care about discussing the case.
Potatolantern@reddit
Billy sued Apollo too and they had a big thing about it.
TheIronGnat@reddit
"themself" is not a word. Don't be afraid to use "himself", the DEI police won't kidnap you, I promise.
CTM89@reddit
Crazy you guys got rid of the department of education....
Sharky-Li@reddit
I mean it obviously wasn't doing a great job or else people like him wouldn't exist.
TheIronGnat@reddit
Without a Department of Education there literally will be no education at all. It's well known that government agencies named after something literally create that thing on Earth.
CTM89@reddit
Bro you forgot a word or just didn't know it in the first place. I see the department got taken a way with absolutely no plan to replace or augment with something new. So ya, as someone from a civilized country that's pretty fucking crazy.
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
Test scores have gone down nearly every single year with the dept. of education
If your hand was rotting off from the wrist down, full gangrene, and you just now decided to do something about it, would you want to wait until the prosthetic is done, or would you want to get it amputated immediately and make do until the replacement comes?
TheIronGnat@reddit
"In civilized countries we are unable to conceive of creating something without the government telling us what to do. Government is literally the best at everything and politicians and bureaucrats are much smarter and more honest than regular people."
If they created a Department of Wiping Your Ass in a couple years people like you would be commenting "In a civilized country it's pretty fucking crazy to see a country where people wipe their own asses."
collinilloc@reddit
That is actually a word don’t let being an idiot stop you from opening a dictionary.
TheIronGnat@reddit
Anything is a word if we want it to be, amirite?
WaifuHunterActual@reddit
It has been a word for about as long as English has existed as a language
Although OED claims it's "non standard" in usage.
osrs-alt-account@reddit
If you actually read the source quotes, the subjects in the sentences were plural. It's just that "themselves" was probably not standard yet.
WaifuHunterActual@reddit
What? There are multiple examples of it being both singular and plural. The sections indicating singular fully admit it's fairly rare prior to the 16th century
collinilloc@reddit
It’s been a word since the 1300s but you would like to think everything is woke, amirite?
woman_tickler049@reddit
another billy w. Can't keep down the man with slick back long hair and the pastor beard
arbiter12@reddit
I'm a bit sad to discover that a lot of B-rated american icons turned out to be full on frauds. I get the same vibe from Mitchell as I do from Seagal...
Huge in their time, turned out to be 95% "fake it till you fake it some more".
funkmon@reddit
Well let's not go that far. Billy Mitchell is a very good video game player. He just thinks he's the best. He'd still wipe the floor with guys like us.
woman_tickler049@reddit
seagal was a fuck from the start. The gayest thing after having raw anal sex with another man is believing in aikido
Bacon_Nipples@reddit
The Seagal vs. Van Damme. One dude is straight trying to look gay on screen, one is gay trying to look straight on screen, and to Gen X these dudes were peak straight/masculine rolemodels
am0ney@reddit
under siege 2 is one of my favorite cringe movies of all time tho, love that one
misterwizzard@reddit
No, they weren't
Bacon_Nipples@reddit
You're right sorry. They're just two straight dudes being manly and not gay, just like you
PhobosAE@reddit
I laughed really hard at this thread. thank you friend.
Bacon_Nipples@reddit
If you're in to deeply closeted men being masculine rolemodels, I also know a Discord you could check out for only $50/mo
PhobosAE@reddit
LMAO
schmitzel88@reddit
He got beat by regular show which was pretty funny
theleetfox@reddit
God damn, Karl seemed so sure of winning too, wild.
GuardianDom@reddit
Yeah, if he said "I don't think I can win this one" then his fans wouldn't have sent him hundres of thousands of dollars for legal expenses.
WorryAccomplished766@reddit
NO REFUNDS
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
Yea
EclipseOfNight@reddit
Nice Galneryus pic brother, great Band!
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
Thanks! Its always nice to meet a fellow fan, they are not that well know, unfortuneately
EclipseOfNight@reddit
Yes sadly
Ive seen them in germany, at the Vetelgyus Tour and been listening since 2009
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
I really want to go to one of their concerts but in the near future there wont be one unfortunetly
Weepinbellend01@reddit
Now kith
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
?
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
what is this all about? i must have missed this micro e celeb drama
sweetcinnamonpunch@reddit
Youtuber talked shit about Mitchell, now got served 400k bill for slander + probably a million in lawyer costs.
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
damn can't even shitpost these days. the internet has gone downhill
Aluminum_Tarkus@reddit
They left out a ton of important details.
Karl Jobst made a series of videos going over Billy Mitchell's various cheating scandals. Billy Mitchell has been called out for cheating by several people, and has had a history of suing these people for defamation. One of these people committed suicide, and it was believed to be because of the stress of the legal fees. Billy was also pretty insensitive about the news, and Karl interpreted that as Billy taking joy in said suicide.
Billy ended up suing Karl for defamation because the narrative he pushed in his videos was that Billy drove that YouTuber to suicide and was happy about it. Karl repeatedly lied to his audience by saying the lawsuit was about him calling Billy a cheater and crowdsourced funding for his legal fees under that pretense. The court ruled that there's not enough evidence to prove that Billy intentionally pushed the YouTuber to suicide, and that Karl's claim was intentionally made to slander Billy.
Billy Mitchell is a scumbag and a cheater, but Karl is also a massive scumbag for what he did, lying to his audience, and taking money from them under false pretenses.
OpenScore@reddit
Damn, thanks for providing context about what it was really about.
No, i didn't donate to Karl (King of the Ducks), but from watching some of his videos, i was under the impression that this was about Billy being called a cheater, not driving someone to suicide.
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
damn the weaponization of the legal system is so fucking scary
DeepQueen@reddit
America, the home of the free and lawsuits
Prefix-NA@reddit
This was Australia in USA he has a legal argument that no reasonable person would see Karl's statement as a statement of fact but a statement of opinion and get dismissed instantly without any hearing of if it happened or not. This is also what media companies do
Statement of fact doesn't mean something is true it means you present something as not your opinion but as an undisputed truth.
Public figures get less protection in USA as well.
Trump won his lawsuit against ABC News because they called him a convicted rapist which would not be an opinion but saying a court ruled he was guilty which did not happen.
If the anchor just said Trump is a rapist, who eats babies, bends peoples iphone chargers, wants to murder every brown person, and prays to Hitler every night then the case would be dismissed as no reasonable person would view it as something other than the anchors opinion without looking into it it happened
The word convicted was enough to make ABC lose their case.
Prometheus_UwU@reddit
So Karl in a way got fucked by his own country, because I'm assuming based on this that Australia has a notably lower burden of proof when it comes to defamation? Am I understanding this correctly?
haneybird@reddit
Not a lower burden of proof, but less exceptions. In the US, if you're a public figure the legal system realizes that people are going to talk shit so the burden of proof increases for those cases. Billy Mitchell is enough of a public figure that this case would have been harder for him to win in the US, but not necessarily impossible.
It should be noted that the judge flat out said that it was irrelevant if Billy was or was not a cheater because the case was only about whether or not Jobst had made defamatory statements to the degree that he should be penalized, which the judge felt he had.
Prometheus_UwU@reddit
I see, thanks for clearing that up. Is there an easy way to see what it was that Karl said specifically that caused the issue? I never really watched his videos and considering he lost I'm assuming part of that would be to take down the videos that mentioned the Apollo Legend stuff or at least to edit that out entirely. I would like to know what exactly he said before I draw a conclusion on if I think what Karl said SHOULD be considered defamatory or not, I don't want to immediately side with Billy because he's a massive asshole, but I don't want to side with Karl considering he lost, so he must've said SOMETHING that went too far.
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
Cucked by his own country? Australia sounds like it sucks.
Say what you want about the US, the judge would never rule in favor of a foreigner.
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
This all happened in Australia dumbass
DeepQueen@reddit
The court battle was in America
Bobblefighterman@reddit
No it wasn't, the court case Karl just lost was in an Australian court.
DeepQueen@reddit
Okay okay, my bad. He had a different case in Florida, I concede
DeepQueen@reddit
The Billy Mitchell situation is one of the oldest Internet dramas
Better_Ice3089@reddit
Both Jobst and Billy are people who are willing to lie to their fans for money so fuck 'em both. I hope they both disappear under a rock and don't come back. Unless the damages go down on appeal he'll be paying this debt until the day he dies.
kniveee@reddit
If he tries to gofund me this shit after being dishonest about the nature of the lawsuit someone better call him out.
I know himself would.
YesIBlockedYou@reddit
It would actually be hilarious if he done one of his exposé style videos on his own shitty actions.
zstonk@reddit
They will, probably gonna be a while before comments will be allowed on his channel
kniveee@reddit
Lol did he disable the comments on his own channel? What a coward.
Snoo_46397@reddit
He hasn't so far
quell_uomo@reddit
Goodbye, you absolute legends.
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
He really should have stuck to speedrunning videos. Law isn’t his strong suit
YesIBlockedYou@reddit
Misleading fans to pay his court fees is his hidden talent though.
Ozymandias_1303@reddit
Imagine knowing who these people are.
Anguscablejnr@reddit
Speaking as an Australian...we like hearing our accent on the telly.
pemboo@reddit
Did everyone forgot Jobst was a sleazeball well before all this?
Oaker_at@reddit
Karl Jobst be Like
„TwinGalaxy lawyer fucked up and had to drop the allegations against Billy.“ but then still says „we won“. Fuck Billi, but Jobst is a fucking moron too.
LordJanas@reddit
Everyone knows Billy Mitchell is a cheater. I really don't know why someone would spend their life locked in a lawsuit over some fake record that's over 3 decades old and then completely lie to people about the true nature of the suit. Karl is the living embodiment of those "MR BEAST IS DONE FOR" type videos where they ride the same drama ad infinitum while also getting no where.
jinfanshaw@reddit
Absolute legends seething!
nikoll-toma@reddit
brainrot gamer drama
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ThatsVeryFunnyBro@reddit
Karl did the impossible and gave Billy the first win in his life
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
Why was Kurt being so adamant about the suicide thing? He couldve won otherwise
dalollypop@reddit
dramaslop-tuber try not to slander or insinuate challenge.
oby100@reddit
Because he doesn’t understand what slander is.
TheAngelOfSalvation@reddit
Yea but that was a retarded move, id play ir save
GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit
Why second pic though?
WorryAccomplished766@reddit
Karl Jobst has Asian gf. He kissed his gf when he got the goldeneye dam agent world record
WidowmakerFeet@reddit
gooning purposes
11freebird@reddit
Because it’s cute
Tenko-of-Mori@reddit
so now you too can post the wife broke in snow meme on 4chan
misterwizzard@reddit
Billy Mitchel is a cheating nobody and Karl Jobst is simply annoying.
McDonaldsSoap@reddit
Cmon she'd say Biri
PM_ME_GAY_STUF@reddit
Does this mean we can finally drag Karl's pick up artist phase out of the memory hole?
GeneraleRusso@reddit
A proper case of FAFO for Karl Jobst.
If you really want to start shit with defamation, you need to have proof of what you're talking about.
If he stopped at shitting on Mitchell for the cheating he could have won or Mitchell itself would have dropped the lawsuit.
Aluminum_Tarkus@reddit
It definitely starts to get murky once you jump from the facts to your own interpretation and speculation around intentions and private knowledge. Karl fucked up massively, and worse yet, he crowd funded his legal fees under the pretense that this defamation case was only about him calling Billy a cheater.
knarsn@reddit
GTA-CasulsDieThrice@reddit
Context? The only Billy Mitchell I’m familiar with is the WW1 Army officer who basically founded the Air Force.
Magsec5@reddit
Damn
teleologicalrizz@reddit
Karl JUST