No, it's a mix of both tbh! 90% of the men you meet are one of two; either really misogynistic and disgusting, who'll find any reason to harass you! and the others are just extremely friendly hoping you'd date them or something...
That's why I just don't use my mic anymore. and when it gets too tiring to deal with, I purposely change my name and try to make it as manly as possible until I feel better again
Back in the days of everyone playing among us if you played as a pink character there was a solid chance at least 2 people in the chat would simp for you, some will even follow you everywhere to 'protect' you
Nah it definitely happens, my username on Fortnite could be confused for something a girl would use, and I've had guys on mic just repeat my name and be kind to me, send friend requests, being like "OMG she down pick her up before they kill her!!"
And other women sending me friend requests after thinking I'm a girl
Meanwhile, before I made the name change, I've had dudes on mic call me trash and call me and the third rando teammate a hard R, idiot, trash whateverđ
You couldn't believe the number of times I got offered paid stuff on MMOs just because I had a girly name and appearance (never happened once when I play as a guy)
It goes hardcore in both directions in my experience. I always play chick characters in games and if someone thinks im a girl I usually dont correct them bc i get free shit and help but I also know for a fact some people try to be as toxic as possible just bc of my character.
Kind of depends on the game, and whether or not they talk. The second girls get on mic, they get insane abuse, if they stay off mic, it's usually fine. Rust is one of the most toxic games ever, but for some reason a lot of guys are willing to help girls instead of instantly calling them slurs.
Depends on the game. And even then it can vary. Sometimes you even have people threaten to rape you and people being uncharacteristically nice in the same vicinity.
Yeah the stuff people do to my fiance's character on RDO is not pleasant. Did you know that somehow sexual assault mods work online on that game even if you don't have the same mod? I didn't until I saw it happen.
I play as my wife in MHW. I once joined a hunt and accidentally got one shot during. The rest of the group just made slide remarks like 'women "gamers"' etc. Took me aback as I've never considered the gender of a character to reflect the person playing.
Anyway, I have a wife and family, so I think I'll be fine sucking at my hobby.
It depends on the game. Try that in non-competitive games, and it will be this way. Try that in a competitive team game, and abuse at volume heaven has not know will rain upon you.
This is because in those games, you have to be a sweat with 30.000 hours and very good at the game to have any success and women (and french people) are perceived as less skilled.
It often comes to mind the League of Legends professional female gaming team. Another professional team (male) banned support characters (women often do play support in league of legends) and dragged on the game on purpose to kill them over and over, and they didn't win a single game in a season or something.
So, in a competitive team game, you want others in your team to be as good as you or better. If they are worse, they are 'that arsehole that is making me lose'. If they are better, it isn't as much of a problem, except if it is a woman. Because if a woman (or a french) is better than you at the game, you'll be the butt of every joke.
This also has to do with the competitive nature of male society. While female society is built on social networks and cooperation (mostly) male society is a constant competition. Because the male that isn't at the top of the hierarchy is seen as a loser. Being lower than a female in the hierarchy is seen as being a super loser.
Of course, I do not justify abuse being thrown at anyone because of their gender/sex/religion/politics. (notice how I excluded the french, it was because of this one Aldiasin french dude in League that played critical strike veigar in my promo).
This is not a justification post, please do not understand it as such. This is an analysis post. Please answer to me if you have anything relevant to add, because I too would like to understand it better. Thank you.
Does the constant berating in such environments not turn into a feedback loop because then women are not able to sweat 1,000s of hrs because of non-cooperation and not sweating leads to more abuse because of skill issue which reverts back to non-cooperation again?
So it feels like a cycle which is supposed to be rotated by every teen (and pre-teen male) until there are no women in comp gaming scene and then people cry about not having female players but choose to ignore the systematic disadvantages after being one. Sorry for incorrect grammer, esl guy
Guys get shit talked too. And most players who acts toxic arenât the one crying about the lack of female players. If anything, theyâd like to gatekeep.
Yes, it is a cycle too. There is also an interest factor and an ease of access factor that leads women to simply not play videogames. There is less interest in (competitive, but also other) videogames from women because videogames are honestly hostile to them, and also the social cost of being a sweat is harsher on women because of their social structure that is based on social networks requieres them to actively seek to fit in. Most men that play videogames (10+hours) also have their social hierarchy (not a network, a hierarchy, although sometimes veiled, is always present) or most of it inside of the game, rather than parallel.
Might depend on the server. A few years ago when I play CSGO, people simp for the female player hard. Buy her guns and follow her around. Not once had I witnessed the âback to the kitchenâ comment, but again not that there are many matches with a girl using her mic, just my anecdotal experience.
I'm never an asshole to anybody on 4chan unless they're one first, but I watched everyone on /biz/ all of a sudden become nice to me when I said I was rich (not even that rich). They weren't even asking for money or anythingâit was like I now all of a sudden didn't deserve to be treated horribly because I had money. I'm not going to pretend to be a girl anywhere but I feel like I experienced something similar to anon.
that might have been some rare edge case, I cant imagine most people anywhere would become nicer if they think you have money unless they want some of it
Played MMORPGs nearly all my life and people just treat me normal whether I play a guy or a girl. However, I will say that when people find out someone's a girl for real via voice chat, they do get weird about it.
For some reason in League it was not uncommon for people to assume i was a girl when i played female characters. Most peaceful matches i've ever experienced. Dudes even followed my comms a lot when tht happened.
Because voice chat is a confirmed woman, a potential woman who isn't confirmed or not gets hit on by a different set of creeps instead of just violently harassed because HAH WOMEN IN GAME. I played with a group that was mostly made up of girls and the amount of creepy people was very low compared to the amount of outright abuse and harassment.
Anon just had a girly name and probably used lots of emotes and typed a bit like a girl, I'm sure if they were in voice and actually had the voice of a woman they would understand the sad realitye
Depends. Sometimes they're only nice to my wife until they figure out she married my dumb ass and then they fuck off out of the lobby OR they are weirdly even nicer since she is a "kept woman."
Dudes are fucking weird man lol I am nice to women in games because I am both horny but also trying not to push them away lol
if some of them pick up your games you regards play yall might even get some pussy so don't gatekeep unless they're the most insufferable person you've ever met.
Other option besides the above is obviously getting topped by a giant hairy, long-dicked Don Tron Fawn
Iâve had a random player trade me a few thousand gold on wow once because I was a cute little Draenei girl. Hit em with a âthanks ;)â, logged, and took a shower.
GoatRocketeer@reddit
i'm pretty sure this is actually the opposite of what happens
Thy_cock_connoisseur@reddit
No, it's a mix of both tbh! 90% of the men you meet are one of two; either really misogynistic and disgusting, who'll find any reason to harass you! and the others are just extremely friendly hoping you'd date them or something...
That's why I just don't use my mic anymore. and when it gets too tiring to deal with, I purposely change my name and try to make it as manly as possible until I feel better again
KnightBoulegard@reddit
Is your current username the newer manly one, Thy_cock_connoisseur.
Thy_cock_connoisseur@reddit
yeah! seems manly enough, right? đ
KnightBoulegard@reddit
Thy_cock_connoisseur@reddit
uhh, 10? đ
Randum_Derp@reddit
I just looked at your profile, you got any stuff like that you can send a brotha? Or you wanna dm me where you get most of it?
Thy_cock_connoisseur@reddit
?? what
KnightBoulegard@reddit
I think you need to make your name even manlier now.
Hongkongjai@reddit
sexual harassment
hunterwaynehiggins@reddit
I'm pretty sure that's a 5 unless you lean, right?
kikikza@reddit
Back in the days of everyone playing among us if you played as a pink character there was a solid chance at least 2 people in the chat would simp for you, some will even follow you everywhere to 'protect' you
Do-it-for-you@reddit
Depends on the game.
MMORPG? Treated like royalty.
FPS? Get ready to be told to go back to the kitchen.
Zealousideal-Ad-6039@reddit
Nah it definitely happens, my username on Fortnite could be confused for something a girl would use, and I've had guys on mic just repeat my name and be kind to me, send friend requests, being like "OMG she down pick her up before they kill her!!"
And other women sending me friend requests after thinking I'm a girl
Meanwhile, before I made the name change, I've had dudes on mic call me trash and call me and the third rando teammate a hard R, idiot, trash whateverđ
WashYourEyesTwice@reddit
Damn that's like how Linus tech tips dropped his fair share of hard Rs back in the day
Dasmahkitteh@reddit
PLEASE tell me there's video
driedupemo@reddit
They're referring to this this clip
WashYourEyesTwice@reddit
I misremembered a bit but yeah it's that one
joausj@reddit
Now play marvel rivals with that strategy
RaspDonut@reddit
You couldn't believe the number of times I got offered paid stuff on MMOs just because I had a girly name and appearance (never happened once when I play as a guy)
Cabbagefarmer55@reddit
It goes hardcore in both directions in my experience. I always play chick characters in games and if someone thinks im a girl I usually dont correct them bc i get free shit and help but I also know for a fact some people try to be as toxic as possible just bc of my character.
airfryerfuntime@reddit
Kind of depends on the game, and whether or not they talk. The second girls get on mic, they get insane abuse, if they stay off mic, it's usually fine. Rust is one of the most toxic games ever, but for some reason a lot of guys are willing to help girls instead of instantly calling them slurs.
ManWithWhip@reddit
Like 20 years ago when ragnarok online was going on i had a male hunter and a female priest.
As the priest i would just sit on Pandora blowing kisses to people and they would open trade and give me stuff, useful, valuable stuff.
anasj313@reddit
Depends on the game. And even then it can vary. Sometimes you even have people threaten to rape you and people being uncharacteristically nice in the same vicinity.
B_Hopsky@reddit
Yeah the stuff people do to my fiance's character on RDO is not pleasant. Did you know that somehow sexual assault mods work online on that game even if you don't have the same mod? I didn't until I saw it happen.
AttakZak@reddit
Plot Twist: OP never mentioned their Gender, only said Gay which makes it seem like theyâre Male. But what if theyâre actually Female lolol
Schaden_Fraude@reddit
Depends on the game lmao
YourAverageGod@reddit
I'm too busy misogynmaxxing to care about your social experiment, OP
void_17@reddit
King of the chvd
No-Boysenberry-6685@reddit
entire account checks out
DDGBuilder@reddit
The way gamers swarm to protect girl gamers is exactly why we can't have women in combat roles. This is my hot take
A_Blue_Potion@reddit
Anon can take it a step further by making an onlyfans account and only post pics of his shaved feet. Free money
LemonFlavoredMelon@reddit
Do the same in WoW and you get paid in gold
prussian_princess@reddit
I play as my wife in MHW. I once joined a hunt and accidentally got one shot during. The rest of the group just made slide remarks like 'women "gamers"' etc. Took me aback as I've never considered the gender of a character to reflect the person playing.
Anyway, I have a wife and family, so I think I'll be fine sucking at my hobby.
GhostMassage@reddit
I have heard very different things
serial_feet_sniffer@reddit
twofacetoo@reddit
That's not kindness
That's horny incel 'Nice Guy's looking for a way in to your pussy
sarattenasai@reddit
It depends on the game. Try that in non-competitive games, and it will be this way. Try that in a competitive team game, and abuse at volume heaven has not know will rain upon you.
This is because in those games, you have to be a sweat with 30.000 hours and very good at the game to have any success and women (and french people) are perceived as less skilled.
It often comes to mind the League of Legends professional female gaming team. Another professional team (male) banned support characters (women often do play support in league of legends) and dragged on the game on purpose to kill them over and over, and they didn't win a single game in a season or something.
So, in a competitive team game, you want others in your team to be as good as you or better. If they are worse, they are 'that arsehole that is making me lose'. If they are better, it isn't as much of a problem, except if it is a woman. Because if a woman (or a french) is better than you at the game, you'll be the butt of every joke.
This also has to do with the competitive nature of male society. While female society is built on social networks and cooperation (mostly) male society is a constant competition. Because the male that isn't at the top of the hierarchy is seen as a loser. Being lower than a female in the hierarchy is seen as being a super loser.
Of course, I do not justify abuse being thrown at anyone because of their gender/sex/religion/politics. (notice how I excluded the french, it was because of this one Aldiasin french dude in League that played critical strike veigar in my promo).
This is not a justification post, please do not understand it as such. This is an analysis post. Please answer to me if you have anything relevant to add, because I too would like to understand it better. Thank you.
DeathSabre7@reddit
Does the constant berating in such environments not turn into a feedback loop because then women are not able to sweat 1,000s of hrs because of non-cooperation and not sweating leads to more abuse because of skill issue which reverts back to non-cooperation again?
So it feels like a cycle which is supposed to be rotated by every teen (and pre-teen male) until there are no women in comp gaming scene and then people cry about not having female players but choose to ignore the systematic disadvantages after being one. Sorry for incorrect grammer, esl guy
Hongkongjai@reddit
Guys get shit talked too. And most players who acts toxic arenât the one crying about the lack of female players. If anything, theyâd like to gatekeep.
sarattenasai@reddit
Yes, it is a cycle too. There is also an interest factor and an ease of access factor that leads women to simply not play videogames. There is less interest in (competitive, but also other) videogames from women because videogames are honestly hostile to them, and also the social cost of being a sweat is harsher on women because of their social structure that is based on social networks requieres them to actively seek to fit in. Most men that play videogames (10+hours) also have their social hierarchy (not a network, a hierarchy, although sometimes veiled, is always present) or most of it inside of the game, rather than parallel.
6spd993@reddit
Fake and gay.
My Xbox chat is literally filled with "back to the kitchen" type shit, and I get kicked in CS2 every other match.
The only game where this is real is L4D2, and it's probably because team work is needed in that game.
Hongkongjai@reddit
Might depend on the server. A few years ago when I play CSGO, people simp for the female player hard. Buy her guns and follow her around. Not once had I witnessed the âback to the kitchenâ comment, but again not that there are many matches with a girl using her mic, just my anecdotal experience.
acidporkbuns@reddit
I do not wish to be a woman in reality or fantasy.
redditsucks101010101@reddit
I'm never an asshole to anybody on 4chan unless they're one first, but I watched everyone on /biz/ all of a sudden become nice to me when I said I was rich (not even that rich). They weren't even asking for money or anythingâit was like I now all of a sudden didn't deserve to be treated horribly because I had money. I'm not going to pretend to be a girl anywhere but I feel like I experienced something similar to anon.
avagrantthought@reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Altruistic-Local-541@reddit
that might have been some rare edge case, I cant imagine most people anywhere would become nicer if they think you have money unless they want some of it
skyhawk2600@reddit
I can not play CS with my girlfriend without her pretending to be a guy. That's the real experience I'll tell you.
Zalar01@reddit
Do not play as a female characters in RDR2 Online
knusper_gelee@reddit
the last time any gamer assumed the player gender from their character model was about 2004...
sad_and_stupid@reddit
Bruhh I wish
thr33beggars@reddit
Oh whoops, anon forgot part 2 where he get aggressively topped after claiming he is straight
accountmaybestolen@reddit
someone fake and gay this shit I'm too baked to think of one
Laziness2945@reddit
Fake: anon didnt get called a whore in 22 languages
Gay: anon enjoys receving attentions from other males
Jen-the-inferno-dev@reddit
fake all that happens to me is i get backshots
gay bc idk femboy or something
poope_lord@reddit
Anon hasn't played any games except this social experiment shit and is heavily regarded
No-Section-4385@reddit
maybe that was true 20 years ago.. its 2025 now... people hate other people now no matter the gender. So this larp is 100% false.
NoSoup4you22@reddit
Female handle in the 2020s = "That's a dude."
stegoso@reddit
Meanwhile women: "Being a woman is so hard đ"
OkSummer8924@reddit
women literally live life on easy mode and still complain
NuclearWinter_101@reddit
SighâŚ. Okay anon Iâve got the surgical supplies. Are you 100% you want transition
Previous_Air_9030@reddit
Played MMORPGs nearly all my life and people just treat me normal whether I play a guy or a girl. However, I will say that when people find out someone's a girl for real via voice chat, they do get weird about it.
Luke22_36@reddit
Where's the cat?
purple_aki04@reddit
For some reason in League it was not uncommon for people to assume i was a girl when i played female characters. Most peaceful matches i've ever experienced. Dudes even followed my comms a lot when tht happened.
Krypt0night@reddit
Sure until you talk in a game like cod or marvel rivals.
DynamicDiego@reddit
No, I will not trick myself into getting groomed and becoming a woman.
Towbee@reddit
https://i.redd.it/qxc4b4m5k4se1.gif
Boricinha@reddit
Fake: Women suffer the most harassment in online gaming, you turn voice chat and it's jover.
Gay: Anon is larping as a girl
Towbee@reddit
Because voice chat is a confirmed woman, a potential woman who isn't confirmed or not gets hit on by a different set of creeps instead of just violently harassed because HAH WOMEN IN GAME. I played with a group that was mostly made up of girls and the amount of creepy people was very low compared to the amount of outright abuse and harassment.
Anon just had a girly name and probably used lots of emotes and typed a bit like a girl, I'm sure if they were in voice and actually had the voice of a woman they would understand the sad realitye
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Cat emoji recycle emoji
NerdyCouple_42069@reddit
Depends. Sometimes they're only nice to my wife until they figure out she married my dumb ass and then they fuck off out of the lobby OR they are weirdly even nicer since she is a "kept woman."
Dudes are fucking weird man lol I am nice to women in games because I am both horny but also trying not to push them away lol
if some of them pick up your games you regards play yall might even get some pussy so don't gatekeep unless they're the most insufferable person you've ever met.
Other option besides the above is obviously getting topped by a giant hairy, long-dicked Don Tron Fawn
CorbinNZ@reddit
Iâve had a random player trade me a few thousand gold on wow once because I was a cute little Draenei girl. Hit em with a âthanks ;)â, logged, and took a shower.