America is going to get rocked. China, Japan, South Korea will jointly respond to US tariffs, Chinese state media says

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NachoAverageTom@reddit

And not a peep from /r/conservative 🤦🏻‍♂️

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I will say we are finally see them attempting to call out what they don’t like about trump. It’s only recent and hardly what it should be. And there are still people fighting back against them. “So what if he’s a little corrupt”

They are slowly starting to lose faith.

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Traditional-Handle83@reddit

Wait till the price of everything skyrockets. Thats probably what will cause them to see differently because it will affect them directly and immediately.

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Alithis_@reddit

Eh, I'm sure we'll still be hearing "this is Biden's economy".

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gxgxe@reddit

Yeah, I heard someone blame Soros for something the other day. Dude is 94 and gives a little money occasionally, but they still think he's some kind of mastermind. Sheesh.

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Nazsrin@reddit

"Takes a little pain for something big and great" holy shit

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Nvmun@reddit

Hey, go ahead. You're tariff expert? What do you know?

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jram2000@reddit

They changed thier post rules so you need flair to post. Essentially your options of flair are different flavors of conservative so they can enjoy the echo chamber of why do libs like gangs and taxes...

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giftedbutloco@reddit

Nope, the thing is we don't care. This is about driving them out and putting our plants and people back to work. Buy American and you won't have a problem. America will never ever be rocked, ever. Do your best Asia, don't forget what happens if your biggest consumer doesn't consume.

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Longjumping-Lie7119@reddit

I understand the average American has less brain cells than fat rolls, but this will never happen. America has always relied on free trade with other countries and your manufacturing industry can not compete with China. Nor do you have the natural resources that many other places have. Try again.

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giftedbutloco@reddit

Uhhhh did it last time and worked out just fine. Already breaking down entire economies of countries pushing back. Their own currencies failing. You can try and post this a year from now when the true results pull in. But here's a thought, if you're not in the usa maybe you should worry about your own country instead of trying to get up votes on reddit with your crybaby garbage. But please yes et us know what country you live in that is so concerned about ours. What glorious perfect country do you reside in? Please enlighten us with your heightened worldly fact based knowledge.

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Longjumping-Lie7119@reddit

Except you didn’t do it last time. China was completely unaffected by Trump’s first four years in office. Try again.

And, yeah, people have to worry about the USA because it’s a superpower and a trade giant. Of course they’re going to worry when your president attempts to impose tariffs on everybody. Once again, you’re proving Americans have more fat rolls than brain cells.

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giftedbutloco@reddit

What rock did you climb out from. Have you been paying attention at all? Any clue why tarrifs were placed on Canada? Because Canada allowed China to come and build plants to skirt the tarrifs. Duuuhhhhh once again proving you're an illiterate liberal nonsense speaking 🤡 SMH some people are just born stupid i guess. How about fucking reas instead of getting your news from social media 🤡 good luck with all that. Worry about yourself and your country. What happens here is clearly NOT of your concern. Fuck off nicely 👌 maybe stick your nose somewhere that some gives a shit. clearly i do not give two fucks anything you have to say or write, especially since you're not of this country. Also given your writing level I'd have to say not a combat veteran either. Thus I have zero respect for you. So as I said you can go fuck yourself in the nicest way. >farts loudly & leaves<

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Longjumping-Lie7119@reddit

His tariffs on Canada were supposedly a response to the fentanyl crisis and migrants across the border, not to China. Huh? His tariffs on Mexico were the same, even though ‘Mericas demand for drugs fuels the drug cartels because Americans are the biggest consumers of recreational drugs worldwide.

He also slapped tariffs on Australia, which hasn’t had tariffs on ‘Merica in 30 years. This is only going to drive people towards China, which is quickly exceeding the US. Alienating all your allies, especially the Anglosphere countries like Canada and Australia which have always been the US’ biggest allies, isn’t going to work out well.

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giftedbutloco@reddit

You're not getting it. Each odd country getting tariffs is catering to China behind the USA's back. That is what these tarrifs is all about. That and putting our own people back to work vs looking for handouts. Another thing you fail to add and just want to attack Trump. How come you're not bringing up Biden also increased tarrifs on China and other countries? Nobody brought up Biden hanging the phone up on Zelinsky a few weeks back with the white house gone to shit either. It's just a bunch of garbage media driven bullshit. Dig deeper and you'll find the truth. Kind of like that internet for everyone shitbag scam Biden put forth. STILL YEARS LATER HAS NOT ENGAGED. Yea look that horseshit scam up, John Stewart's mind just got blown off that nonsense. Everything you're throwing at me is garbage liberal fucktard media pushed lying trash. Not saying you're the liar, just more so you're buying into it without looking at both sides of the coin. Aaand then going further to deeper sources to expose the truth and compare them all together. Of course the republican party has scams and shams. They all fucking do and you don't believe then go back the rock you came from because being out here with us is hopeless for you. No hate, just truth. That's the difference between a republican and a democrap libtard. The true republican doesn't really care what your political beliefs are. We will listen to you and attempt to help you see the real truth. The democrap libtard will shout at you, call you names and unfriend you, even after years of a great friendship. Mental issues there 100% yeaaa we gotta go buy teslas to save the planet. Waaaiit no burn those to the ground, who gives a shit how bad that is the atmosphere.

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Longjumping-Lie7119@reddit

Why wouldn’t they trade with China? It’s ridiculous to say they’re trading behind US’ back when the US’ biggest trade partner is China. Is the US trading behind Taiwan and Hong Kong’s back? No, they’re just acknowledging an economic reality: China produces goods that everybody wants. It’s a large market with an incredibly large workforce due to being a country of 1 billion.

Australia is trading with China because 1. China and Australia both have goods/resources the other wants and 2. Australia is closer to China than Europe or America. So of course they would rely on the Asian market. The US putting tariffs on Australia is also just punching itself in the face due to the large beef market. Now Big Macs are going to cost even more. RIP Burgerland.

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blueteamk087@reddit

Do you how remarkable it is to get South Korea, Japan, AND China to agree to something.

Trump truly is a master at geopolitics/s

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DomDeV707@reddit

THIS was exactly my first thought when I read the headline of this post. So, so true.

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esotericimpl@reddit

"When goods don’t cross borders, soldiers will"

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Osprey_Talon@reddit

I take anything said by the Chinese Media with a big ol spoon of Salt. That being said you hit it on the head about how big a deal this is. This could be the first step to our allies having a closer relationship to China than the U.S. This was not on my fucking bingo card.

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nostrademons@reddit

America will unite the world by being both stupid and evil.

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Ariestartolls0315@reddit

Well...I mean, it's working...so there's that. I mean ya gotta admit it's impressive that we could end a 70 year fued in 3 months by being pieces of shit...

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Old_Row4977@reddit

Don’t waste all your salt. You’re gonna need that.

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BlueDog1964@reddit

A lot of magats are going to need it to cure meat & trade (As Roman soldiers were paid with it).

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PrinceGreenEyes@reddit

They are not your allies anymore. They are there for your government to piss all over and theg do not neceseary like it. EU should join in.

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Coro-NO-Ra@reddit

I'm honestly shocked and horrified as well.

Are we seeing Japan and South Korea realign toward China? Holy shit.

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Mars_target@reddit

Well trump us pushing away ALL allies. Its going to be America first and only if he keeps this up.

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Traditional-Handle83@reddit

Fun fact about that... There is an astronomical amount of stuff you can't get solely in the US due to resource issues. Medicines being one. Good luck if you got something bad that the only medicine available is from another country.

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Covert_Pudding@reddit

Jokes on you, all we need is ivermectin & prayers! /s

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ShareShort3438@reddit

You also need Ozempic😂😂😂😂

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Bright-Blacksmith-67@reddit

Think about it from a game theory perspective.

Do SK and Japan wait for "mafia boss" Trump to get bored of screwing over Ukraine and start demanding protection money or do they reach out to China at a time when China would be most appreciative of the support?

Seems like a smart move.

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Not-ur-Infosec-guy@reddit

Seeing china and s. Korea want to side with Japan post WW2 is pretty damn impressive.

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LewtedHose@reddit

Seems like this video is coming to pass.

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United_Watercress_14@reddit

If it wasnt true Japan and Korea would have denied it immediately and China would look look weak. This is a done deal.

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yalyublyutebe@reddit

While I'm not tapped into that much foreign press, I can only assume if it wasn't true, there would probably be articles circulating with one of the governments claiming as much.

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UppedVotes@reddit

Somebody give this man a Nobel peace prize.

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KingCarbon1807@reddit

I've encountered a worrisome number of people who're absent the educational background to appreciate the enormity of this. China and Japan have been on each other's shit lists for longer than the USA has been in existence. And a cursory review of history turns up more that a few reasons why SK is more than justified to hate both of them.

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Right-Half-3204@reddit

My thoughts exactly, this don’t feel real

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SniperPilot@reddit

Well he definitely is bringing people together.

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stinky-weaselteats@reddit

The administration of love.💕

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qcjb@reddit

Give him the Nobel peace prize

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jp85213@reddit

Will he go away if we do?

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scorp0rg@reddit

You give it to him, Worm.

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Odd-Negotiation2779@reddit

they probably been playing good cop bad cop all this time just like Japan and ww2

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Conscious-Ad4707@reddit

Trump is Ozymandius from Watchmen.

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wocaky@reddit

Trump for world peace

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Onewaytrippp@reddit

Dude also managed to unite Canada including Quebec, which is quite something.

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SanfreakinJ@reddit

Japan and china working together 🤔

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Bialar_crais@reddit

Im cautious of the chinese media. Remember this is propaganda.

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Agitated-Pen1239@reddit

Hope you've all been prepping for political fallout, that will be the genre this time around.

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EverbodyHatesHugo@reddit

What are some recommendations for sub newbies?

Are there particular preps for this type of scenario?

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ConfidentTax4349@reddit

My plan, as someone who is also new to all of this, is to stockpile as many basics as I can (food, paper goods, etc.) by buying extras each week, start gardening again, and squirrel away every penny I can. Also, to get all of our official documentation organized both physically and digitally. And, longer term, to save for a generator and eventual solar power.

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

Get a passport.

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StrudelCutie1@reddit

Yeah, a passport will be the only way to register to vote for most people. The other options are a REAL ID that shows citizenship (only available in 5 states) or a military ID. Birth certificates will not be accepted. But don't apply for a passport if you're trans: the government has been seizing their documents.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/26/g-s1-55927/trump-voting-citizenship-executive-order

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Waytooboredforthis@reddit

I've been keeping an eye on Orr vs Trump, because I know any window of opportunity is going to be very brief.

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Tough-Draft-5750@reddit

This is how I got started, and honestly, my food storage pantry has already come in handy. A couple of weeks ago we had a severe tornado warning and had to evacuate to an underground shelter. I was able to quickly grab a box of protein bars I had stockpiled and some waters. We would’ve been mighty hungry sitting in that bunker all day with nothing to eat.

Idk if you have Ollie’s where you live, but I was able to pick up a box of low sugar/high protein bars for $3-4 dollars. Excellent investment and very manageable if you pick up a box or two every week. I’ve also shopped dollar tree for no sugar added freeze dried fruit, apple sauce, and spices.

The little things add up. Good for you for taking care of your family ❤️

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

Get some maps downloaded on your phone, have cash on hand when shit gets rough, and limit unnecessary spending. Chances are you probably buy something with unnecessary spending that's effected by tariffs or will be soon

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Not-ur-Infosec-guy@reddit

Paper maps are way more valuable IMO.

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derouville@reddit

Where are you people going?

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CulpablyRedundant@reddit

Pacific Playland

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ronoldwp-5464@reddit

lol, this made me laugh far more than it should.

The world is on file, it’s not same to step outside. Water is tainted and food is diminishing.

ROAD TRIP, MOFO’s, going to Martha’s Vineyard! It’s beautiful this time of year.

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derouville@reddit

Canada and Mexico sure as hell aren't letting us in if this all goes to shit.

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Consistent-Key-865@reddit

Meh, I would not surprised if we allowed LGBTQ2+ refugees, possibly more depending on the level and flavour of apocalypse.

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ronoldwp-5464@reddit

Someone’s grandma needs company and loves to bake. Find the grandmas, that can the jam and the sweet sweet potato pie and make it for her too and she loves that kind of stuff for dinner or dinner or to eat with her y

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

Yeah, but you can carry a whole lot more maps just on your phone. Zooming in, or even very specific maps for your local town or utilities or counties. Just a whole lot of different types of maps

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

Redundancy, if the power grid goes down, we'll be back in the 1800's.

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

There are a lot of ways you can charge your phone though, solar powered chargers for example. Which just gave me the idea to invest into that.

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

True, I just like alternatives for back up.

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

Good point, there are a million reasons that could contribute to your phone not working. And it's gonna be hard getting that shit repaired unless you know what you're doing

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TheOtherBelushi@reddit

Por Que no Los dos?

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

me no speaka da spanish

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TheOtherBelushi@reddit

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SadCowboy-_-@reddit

They didn’t have nuclear, solar, wind, and water turbines in the 1800s.

We will have power, just not as much of it.

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Traditional-Handle83@reddit

Car parts. Time to get several years of repairs ahead of time.

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Cameltitties_MD@reddit

Guns. Lots of guns.

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Eissimare@reddit

Get some spices so beans and rice every night doesn't get bland, think about how you can make your budget stretch and where you can cut costs. I'm a newbie too though

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Coro-NO-Ra@reddit

Do you have a Honda/Toyota/Subaru/Mitsubishi/Hyundai/Kia/etc?

Who is the sub that produces their consumables? Where are they located?

You might want to snag spare mechanical consumables now if production isn't located in the US. Plugs, pads, rotors, etc.

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HOrnery_Occasion@reddit

Doubt it, life won't change besides prices. It's always a scare. The news outlets get hard when they can scare the masses.

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Conscious-Ad4707@reddit

Trump has a solution. He’s going to tell others what to do, he’s going to threaten them when they don’t, and then when none of that works he’s going to whine a bunch. See his approach to solving the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

President bitch tits and suckling supporters are only fit for diapers.

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Icy_Lingonberry2822@reddit

The USA military should pull out of Korea and Japan immediately and let them defend the Asian region if China decides to invade Taiwan

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Longjumping-Lie7119@reddit

Because, as we all know, America is so great at defending their allies and definitely not turning their backs on them.

After all, the US definitely kept their alliance with Gaddafi and Hussein. Nothing bad happened there.

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SNTCTN@reddit

I'm sure China would love that

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Icy_Lingonberry2822@reddit

I’m sure China wouldn’t mind teaming up with North Korea and it’s a repeat of the Korean War where South Korea gets run over in a matter of days and Japan is a dying nation so they would get run over easily since they can’t replace the population quick enough

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SNTCTN@reddit

So you just come up with situations that are good for China and then support them on the internet?

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Icy_Lingonberry2822@reddit

No it’s called reading war history because history tends to repeat itself in certain ways

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SNTCTN@reddit

Idk man suggesting the USA pull out of Korea and Japan seems like Chinese propaganda to me.

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Icy_Lingonberry2822@reddit

It’s time that other countries start protecting them selves and quit relying on USA military presence to be the deterrent against other countries from invading.

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Jao2002@reddit

Imagine wanting to destroy all the soft power this country has spent the last century building up which has ushered in an era of unprecedented peace historically. Such a fucking idiot.

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SNTCTN@reddit

Im sure China would love that

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Trump ushering in the Chinese century 🫡

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StrudelCutie1@reddit

American power has become a carefully constructed house of cards. We're reliant on allies for manpower, basing, intelligence, etc. and on foreign investors to finance the deficit spending that pays for the military. If we think we can push the world around and become self-sufficient, we're in for a rude awakening regarding the strength of our bootstraps.

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Consistent-Ad9842@reddit

damn I really like Korean skincare :(

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Superman246o1@reddit

"But Kamala had a weird laugh!"

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TERMINAL-BLISS@reddit

no kamala supports genocide, sry i could care less about someone’s laugh.

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HumphryGocart@reddit

So, you could care less? At least that’s a start. Could you also care less about what orange Jesus is doing to Palestinians? Incredible.

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Superman246o1@reddit

Congratulations on helping to elect Trump! You must be very happy with how he's treating Palestinians. The upcoming Gaza Strip Mall will be very classy; he said it himself.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Biden/Harris committed to unlimited genocide of the Palestinians, if they wanted those votes, they could’ve done something other than that. At least Trump is undermining American hegemony, the same hegemony that allows Israel to commit such atrocities unimpeded. Looking forward to the Chinese century!

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riko77can@reddit

Meanwhile, it was Trump that started selling the heavy ordinance to Israel again so they could “finish the job”.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

The same exact thing Biden and Harris supported? Wow I’m so shocked! American governance has become nothing but greed and evil, Trump just lifted the veil.

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riko77can@reddit

Biden literally cut off those sales. Trump restored it.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Yes I’m sure Palestinian children were grateful to be obliterated by x2 of Biden’s 1000 lbs bombs instead of Trump’s 2000 lbs bombs! You’re so disingenuous, America deserves every bit of damage Trump will do domestically.

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Saraneth1127@reddit

Ah, you’re not American. You could’ve just said that.

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Arguablybest@reddit

Oh yeah, trump will be much worse on Palestine than Harris would have.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

I don't think it was the laugh, she failed to separate herself from her predecessor. And her campaign poorly detailed key policy and messaging despite record spending

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Ok_Cartographer4626@reddit

Harris had a plan put together in two weeks. Of course it was going to be missing some detail. Her debate answers were so specific that Republicans speculated she was given the questions ahead of time (🙄). Meanwhile Trump had four years to prepare and had “concepts of a plan”. Oh, except Project 2025 which he knew absolutely nothing about at all…

It makes no sense to criticize Harris on preparedness when she outperformed Trump by miles and had only a few months to do it.

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RedWinger7@reddit

Did she outperform trump by miles? One is in the White House, the other is not.

She ran a terrible campaign. Sure, she “won” the debates, but that was going to be a given agains Trump. The original comment in this chain was right - she failed to distance herself from an administration that was in power through a rough economic time. Your average pleb didn’tt want to hear “4 more years of the exact same” like she kept repeating.

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Saraneth1127@reddit

Well I hope the “average pleb” enjoys the economic time they’re having now lol

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Invis_Girl@reddit

So they voted for the guy that created that terrible economy in the first place? Makes total sense...

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Famous_Bit_5119@reddit

The average American saw a choice between a black woman and a white man and voted accordingly.

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OkStill9918@reddit

We've seen the way they raise their kids as single moms, we don't need one running the country.

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Famous_Bit_5119@reddit

Good thing you wrote that and didn't say it, It wouldn't have been audible under that white hood.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

She's about as black as Elizabeth Warren is indigenous

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Famous_Bit_5119@reddit

So it was just the woman part you hated. Got it. thanks for clarifying

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RhythmBlue@reddit

i think a lot had to do with the attempted murder of Donald; i imagine that tugged on a sort of primal instinct, which caused many people, who otherwise wouldnt vote, to keep a 'mental note' to vote for him. It plays right in the mindset of a sort of 'shadowy bogeyman trying to kill me and my team' vibe, which i think is an especially strong political animus for those associated with the republican name

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Ff-9459@reddit

I’ve always felt that was staged. The second I saw it, I knew he was going to win.

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Dex_Maddock@reddit

This is crazy, dude. Just crazy.

A person died....

The shooter was just a shitty shot. It's that simple. I wish they were a better marksman, but they weren't... there's no conspiracy.

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KJBNH@reddit

Why should they be different from Biden?

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StrudelCutie1@reddit

Biden was reaping the consequences of a generation-long ignoring of the Sherman Antitrust Act. He thought there was still enough slack in the economy to ramp up production and tame inflation, but there had been too many mergers for this to happen anymore. Part of me wishes Harris had come out in favor of breaking up the mergers, but the realist in me knows that the American people are far too stupid to understand antitrust and this wouldn't have made any difference to the election.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

Because Bidens approval and opinion poll numbers were in the dumpster.

People were not happy or confident with the direction of the country under Biden. Failure to separate herself from that is the reason she lost.

That said with the way things appear to be headed, the next republican will have to separate themselves from Trump to have a chance

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Different-Side5262@reddit

Harris catered to minority groups and left out the majority. Can't win that way.

Democrats need to realize that.

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theschuss@reddit

Uhhh, there were detailed proposals on the campaign site. This is tired bullshit.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

People aren't going to go to a campaign website, nor read detailed documents. Kamal new this, that's why she spent 1.4 billion on advertisements. Her campaing failed to get the proper messaging across and largely had their ads in the wrong places, with the majority spent on Google, Facebook and Instagram

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theschuss@reddit

Your argument is that she didn't provide details - she did. Don't move the goalposts.

She was delivering realistic messaging vs someone straight lying about everything and media doing absolutely zero to refute the lies. Good luck to anyone in that scenario.

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Smart-Classroom1832@reddit

Also, let's not forget the support of RICHEST MAN IN THE WORLD SPENDING MORE THAN ANYONE IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND HIS WEAPONIZED MEDIA EMPIRE (which includes the brocasters, and technocryptofascists). Ok, taking off my tin foil hat, but still, this may have had an affect on the last election.

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Coro-NO-Ra@reddit

Also state actors.

A bunch of Republicans parroted "LMAO RUSSIA DIDN'T CHANGE VOTES!!" without understanding the implications of Cambridge Analytica

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sarcago@reddit

They refuse to even believe the Cambridge Analytica even though it’s been public info this whole time. Idk how the fuck their media convinced them to if ore it but it’s a travesty.

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sarcago@reddit

To be fair the media refused to frame that shit fairly. They kept sane washing 🥭 and they would barey talk about her platform which you could easily find on her campaign website.

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Multinightsniper@reddit

This right here, when the dems choose to push Biden + Kamala WITHOUT ALLOWING A PRIMARY it was the bullet to the Traditional Dem parties head.

Mfer should've just dropped out like he said he was going to but instead was probably egged onto running again because of his wife. (Just look at how much Bidens wife was with him during that time period when he was supposed to drop out.) Nobody would want to vote for someone, even associated, with someone who goes back on their word like that. Meanwhile the other party is perfectly fine with liars.

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Intelligent-Cruella@reddit

Man, leave Jill out of this. That's textbook mediocre white male hubris if I've ever seen it.

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Multinightsniper@reddit

I will say I mean no ill will towards her, it's just how it looks from the outside. The dude stated he didn't wanna run again, but for the vast majority of the time he was campaigning (despite saying before he didn't want to.) she was there to support him, like a s/o should!!! But I think it adversely made it so he changed his mind about dropping out. Until it was way too late.

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ConfidentTax4349@reddit

I remember reading somewhere (I'm so sorry, I have no receipts -- but it was a video and she was being interviewed i think? Lol) that she was actually pissed that his coworkers egged him on to run again. She knew he wasn't fit and wanted him to step down with "dignity" or whatever, but he wouldn't because blah blah blah

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Multinightsniper@reddit

Well shit, colored me surprised! I appreciate the info and will update accordingly.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

I kind of think it's was something to do with her, she was flying all over the country doing fund raiders and courting donors til the end. I feel like it was less than a year ago she flew into my town to raise money

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StrudelCutie1@reddit

Biden ran for reelection because he thought that only he could beat Trump. (Unrealistic, considering his approval rating.) The rules forbid doing the primaries all over again. When a candidate suspends his campaign, his delegates get to vote for someone else. His delegates obeyed his order to vote for Harris, so we didn't get a brokered convention.

The cynical part of me thinks that he endorsed Harris because he wanted an awful candidate who would go down in flames. "If I can't be president, no Democrat can!"

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Ello_Owu@reddit

She held up her administrational wins and showcased that we were on the right path with more beneficial policies coming down the pipe.

But Trump and the billion dollar right-wing media machine took the wind out of those sails, by making trumps failures look like bidens.

Like, It's rare to hear about the pandemic economy blowing up under Trump, but you'll hear constant howling at the economy Biden inherited and wasn't fixing fast enough.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

Curious, the current economic situation would you say this is Trump, or what Trump inherited?

Realistically it's doesn't matter, what matters is messaging, how you control the narrative, what the normal voters sees and believes. This is a big part of why Biden, I mean Kamala, lost.

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Sigmundschadenfreude@reddit

Trump inherited a reasonably impressive stock market on the rise which he has carelessly torpedoed. Admittedly, he also inherited an economy where the average person is struggling more than the democrats ever wanted to admit (I believe largely out of pathetic ignorance due to fixating on metrics that don't really reflect real people and their struggles), and that's very much on Biden and is an element of why Kamala lost. However, Trump is also preparing to make that worse too with his tariffs.

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Ello_Owu@reddit

Trump, within two months, took a wrecking ball to our systems that we rely on, at home and globally, has threatened our allies with essentially war, and been on and off and on again with Tariffs causing the stock market to go into seizures thanks to the unpredictability.

Biden got our economy on the ground after covid, but it was still on shakey ground when he left office, then Trump came in like a hurricane, so yea, I don't blame him for what's happening now

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HippieLizLemon@reddit

I don't disagree with you comment, but I also feel like both candidates put out their policies just practically no one bothered to read them. It's so frusterating.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

I feel whoever ran the Trump campaign did a far better job, had clearer messaging and was better at controlling the narrative.

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unplugnothing@reddit

Yikes

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Expensive_Watch_435@reddit

As fucked as it is, it's true.

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Vinceton@reddit

That would be Russia

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Coro-NO-Ra@reddit

Oh well that makes voting for Trump reasonable

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strayduplo@reddit

Like, seriously. We were all presented the same information, it is each individual's responsibility to draw their own conclusions.

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Coro-NO-Ra@reddit

Unfortunately that presumes an educated population that is capable of critical thinking.

After a multi-decade campaign to dismantle and disrespect public education, I have my doubts.

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3490goat@reddit

I think it was the media who chose not to highlight successes of the Biden administration while still normalizing Trump’s weirdness

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Tricky-Dependent-667@reddit

Liberals and conservatives are the same wings of the fascist bird

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ToroMeBorro@reddit

She was a progressive who endorsed genocide. Can't blame progressive voters for not showing up 🤷‍♂️

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iridescent-shimmer@reddit

Yeah, much better outcome here for Gaza bc they're so self-righteous.

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pants_mcgee@reddit

Yes, yes we can.

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ChuckHoliday@reddit

Them: It’s the Dems fault!! They failed to produce a candidate that is better than a rapist, racist, felon and fraudster!

Me: Uh….

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Charlirnie@reddit

She sucked bad to....she read from a teleprompter.... she was with Biden who sucked bad. I'm not sure Trump won I'm more convinced the dems lost. Biden sucked so bad lots people would vote anyone and roll the dice.

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Ello_Owu@reddit

"SHE DIDN'T GO ON ROGAN, BRO!"

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Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit

It'd rock if true, but the article walks back the title. It'll likely encurage their own regional collaboration anyways, so more trade not in USD.

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jar1967@reddit

That is going to hurt the manufacturing and agricultural sectors hard. Get ready for unemployment and inflation to be over 10%

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SufficientTangelo136@reddit

There’s nothing about this in the news here in Japan. What they are talking about is making trade easier between the three countries, seriously doubt Japan and Korea are going to escalate the situation.

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Chance_University_92@reddit

Considering Japan and South Korea are actively preparing for a war with China. I would take what China says and wipe.

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Josiesumday@reddit

U-S-A! U-S-A!

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shaboid@reddit

At least I can buy American...

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samuel10998@reddit

Ngl Americans need to see some pain in their pockets so they finally realize who they voted for. Even tho this might hurt lot of people in the end it might save US in the long run.

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myhairychode@reddit

Only time I am glad to own a Ford.

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19610taw3@reddit

The most American vehicles are Swasticars and actually a lot of foreign vehicles. Ford makes more here than GM or Stellantis but I think the most American ICE is a Toyota

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eccentric_1@reddit

We're in big trouble.

Prep accordingly.

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rollin20s@reddit

What’s steps would you recommend taking?

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

If your planning a garden...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5mEpiqw7Yho&pp=ygUkMjUgdmVnZXRhYmxlcyB5b3VyIGdyYW5kcGFyZW50cyBncmV3

Vegetables that people grew to get through the depression.

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candlecup@reddit

This is GREAT, thank you

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

You're welcome, I thought so too.

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Cameltitties_MD@reddit

Picture

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Cameltitties_MD@reddit

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ZookeepergameOdd4599@reddit

Plant potatoes

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symplton@reddit

Fill up on fuel on your way home. It's never going to be cheaper than it is right now again for a while. We're doubling our garden commitment, including a 1/4 acre of potatoes (yukon gold) and 1/4 acre of fruit (apple trees and berry bushes.)

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StrudelCutie1@reddit

I think the drying up of international trade will cause something like the Great Recession, and gas got really cheap then.

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mjangle1985@reddit

God I’m so glad I got an EV.

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Old_Row4977@reddit

.30/gallon more expensive on my way home than when I left for work this morning.

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symplton@reddit

Same! And so it begins...

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Old_Row4977@reddit

I have 6 5 gallon buckets of potatoes growing right now. It’s still far too cold for me to start anything outside yet. The crazy world has finally got my wife on board with some preps though.

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Background-Tax-5341@reddit

My husband with cancer has been saving meds. Skipping a dose here and there to have a reserve. It’s not how he wants to care for himself but he is very concerned. We eat from scratch, have a tiny garden ( we are elders ) I still work. We save cash as best as we can. We have an exit ramp but it would be a dire situation for him. This is taking such a toll on elders who are sick. We try to view and read uplifting info to keep balanced. Any other suggestions? It would be appreciated.

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HillarysFloppyChode@reddit

Do you have retirement accounts?

Stop investing in US companies, start investing in EU companies, especially defense companies. No one is going to want a contract with Lockheed Martin soon.

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Background-Tax-5341@reddit

Thanks. Understood.

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fecal_encephalitis@reddit

I've lost family to cancer. Pertaining to your husband - look into medicinal mushrooms. Not magic mushrooms. Seriously, there are many kinds in anti-cancer drug trials right now.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3339609/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9504980/

They are cheap, have little to no side effects, have a lot of other benefits like cognition boost and decrease in insulin resistance, and have tons of antioxidants. To name a few: reishi, chaga, cordyceps, lion's mane, even shiitakes. You can copy-paste the names in the articles into Google to find their common names. If society collapses, you won't be able to get daratumamab, prograf, or the kind of radiation you want, but reishi, turkey tail, etc. literally grow out of wood and the ground, and they're free. You can buy some at farmers markets, but they make capsule supplements full of multiple powdered mushrooms you can buy. I even grew reishi at home.

Antioxidants protect your DNA from free radicals like reactive oxygen species, which damage DNA due to their strong electric charges that rip off atoms/protons and destabilize bonds. They are usually just physically long molecules that can take on these charges and stabilize them just by being present in your blood and body. Astaxanthin is a great one, very potent. Damage to DNA is what causes cancer, specifically when a gene in charge of limiting cell division gets altered or deleted. These don't reverse damage, but they can help prevent it. You find them in tannins in wine and nuts, too. Ever wonder why plants don't get sunburn? Chlorophyll acts an antioxidant. Eat plants!

Also, everyone, feel free to chime in if I got any details wrong. There are new cancer treatments coming out that use monoclonal antibodies to target specific cells for killing by your NK cells, maybe complement, too, but they are insanely expensive because they're cutting-edge and brand new. 1 round of IvIg is like 50k, if I heard correctly. The goal of most other therapies is just to kill the cancer before it kills you.

Not a doctor; I'm a med lab scientist. Good luck - you got this.

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Background-Tax-5341@reddit

Thank you for the info. Yes, he likes mushrooms. This is an option.

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Nvmun@reddit

Tariff expert, huh? I mean you, OP.

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SensitiveWar187@reddit

They will divest full stop out of the US

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Necessary-Present-79@reddit

Lol what are they going to do? They are all net exporters, meaning they would lose a tariff war.

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Boomstickrick74@reddit

Im sure crying about it on reddit will fix it.

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feelsbad2@reddit

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SithLordRising@reddit

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Resident_Bid7529@reddit

Don’t ever forget who got us here, the oligarchs and the evangelicals.

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Thoraxe474@reddit

And the really dumb people

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backland-vice@reddit

Significant overlap in that Venn diagram

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nilsinleneed@reddit

this is gonna hurt

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T-MinusGiraffe@reddit

What about Taiwan?

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Unique_Look2615@reddit

“China state media says”

Take this with a grain of salt until SK or Japan acknowledges it and says they agree.

No, not saying they deny it isn’t the same thing as accepting it. It leaves the door open for SK or Japan to choose what they want to do when and if tariffs come through.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Read and weep

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Unique_Look2615@reddit

This just says they met dumbass. That’s not in question. What’s in question is what the CCP is claiming that they’ll all respond to US tariffs jointly.

Go ahead and find a source that says officials from SK or Japan said this. I’m not going to hold my breath.

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Roamer56@reddit

Shanghai Cooperation Organization membership for Japan and SK soon.

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Life-Celebration-747@reddit

Don't forget about BRICS.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS

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HolymakinawJoe@reddit

Canada, Mexico, ALL of the European union, Australia, New Zealand, China, Japan & South Korea........and many others, I'm sure.......all about to hit the USA with massive economic hits.

USA is fucked.

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OkStill9918@reddit

Well golly gee if the Chinese state run media said it then it must be true.

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Pleasant-Trifle-4145@reddit

Literally not a single source cited is Chinese state run media.

This is after a very public meeting that all three nations had yesterday.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Shh let them enjoy it while they can

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Fit-Historian6156@reddit

I wanna wait a little bit before I go with this. Just recently the Japanese PM came out and disputed what Chinese state media reported that he said while meeting with Xi Jinping, I'm not 100% about this report either until we see more confirmation from one of the other parties here.

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Lol

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GemmyCluckster@reddit

Breaking news! Trump accidentally makes World Peace for everyone in the world except America! Thanks MAGA idiots!

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3uphoric-Departure@reddit

Unironically a good thing

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awesumpawesum@reddit

this is the part where he reveals his secret plan to save the economy.

Nope, just hinmself.

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LowBarometer@reddit

The USA has become the "evil empire" everyone unites to defeat.

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grandnp8@reddit

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Dex_Maddock@reddit

Nah, we've been that for a long time. But our previous politicians were better at playing the game and kept our allies on our side....

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somefochuncookie@reddit

I’m American and I’ll just go ahead and say it.

If you support this government, you’re one of the baddies.

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Aggressive-Raise-445@reddit

And when it does then everyone of the countries in nato can start paying their own defense budgets instead of relying on the United States making up the entire budget over 60 percent of 30 plus nations every year. One trillion dollars a year. Let’s see what happens when they start having to pay for their own defenses 😂 That being said, Japan and South Korea will not join china 🤡🤡🤡 stupid as fuck 😂🤣

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Pleasant-Trifle-4145@reddit

These aren't NATO countries. They have nothing to do with NATO.

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Dex_Maddock@reddit

Don't let facts get in the way of a good fantasy story.

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Charming_Emu_4660@reddit

Cool so Henry kissinger spent his whole life even if it was fucked up to make sure none of these countries got along so they could rely on us and now we’re intentionally ceding that influence?

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paintedfaceless@reddit

Cool - maybe I won't have to pay my student loans after all.

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Infinite_Question344@reddit

lol

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Dry_Examination3184@reddit

"We're gonna make America a broke Pariah again, we're gonna lose so hard you're going to say no more!" Lol

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Latter-Sector5314@reddit

“Please, please. It’s too much losing. We can’t take it anymore. Mr. President, it’s too much.” And I’ll say, “No, it isn’t!”

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Dry_Examination3184@reddit

Hahaha omfg.

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sarcago@reddit

We are moving states to be near family and we were debating between a Spring and Fall move. We expedited that timeline because idk if we’d be able to sell come fall. We’re leaving asap.

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liamluca21491@reddit

Hope you guys are ready to pay over $1000 for your new PlayStation

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clever_by_design@reddit

Standard Trump walk back coming in 3...2 ...1

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

Except for Korea, as Hyundai announced 20 billion for more factories in the US to avoid tarriffs.

But I mean who wants a Hyundai anyway

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Thoraxe474@reddit

Where the fuck do you even buy Hyundai or Suzuki cars? I've never seen a dealer for them

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

I have 3 Hyundai dealerships with 50 miles of me.

Suzuki? As per my Google search I get a bunch of power sport, motor sport shops, no car dealerships. Maybe, you could buy a car from a power sport shop?

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Thoraxe474@reddit

I see people driving Suzuki cars but no dealerships. It's a conspiracy I tell ya!

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grahamfiend2@reddit

taps mic

I’ll preach this until I die. No company is relocating factories to the US in response to the tariffs. Any company making these announcements had planned the move years ago.

No business person is sitting in their office going “crap, tariffs are on, time to invest billions in the US”

They’re going “crap, tariffs are on, time to pause most spending until we see if the tariffs even happen, or if they do happen, will it be for a few days or longer?”

Tariffs only spur business activity when business leaders are certain the tariff will be in place for years or even decades.

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AdditionalAd9794@reddit

My understanding is Hyundai in particular was already in the process due to EV tax breaks, they only apply to vehicles built in the US. But they've since announced another $20 billion in response to the tarriffs and plan to build non EVs in these factories now, in addition to EVs they already had planned

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symplton@reddit

They'll talk the talk and maybe even buy some land, but in 2 years, when the midterms arrive, they'll have hedged that this all gets (hopefully) undone.

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Multinightsniper@reddit

I wouldn't be shocked if most of the factories that were being planned to come to the U.S be withdrawn. That would ruin one of their right's last points of "WELL HURR DURR TRADE WAR FINE BC FACTORIES WILL COME BACK DURGGGG"

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GlitteringChipmunk21@reddit

Not sure that that factory coming online in several years (and still being dependent on imported parts) makes much of a difference the way those tariffs are structured.

Frankly the first thing Hyundai ought to do is cancel that investment, since all the rest of it's cars will be tariffed.

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