Something feels wrong with the world – but there’s no one to talk to about it
Posted by kenjoncan@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 668 comments
Lately, I’ve been feeling a deep unease.
Not just about politics or economics, but something more fundamental—like the world is quietly breaking down, layer by layer.
It’s not just what we see: environmental collapse, increasing inequality, silent tensions rising everywhere…
It’s something I feel deep down, like a ticking clock behind everything we do.
Governments and corporations are preparing for something.
Bunkers, Mars plans, control systems.
They know. Or at least, some of them do.
I’ve tried talking about this with people I know—but it either turns into a joke, or a silence.
I don’t blame them. Maybe I’d laugh too, if I weren’t the one feeling this.
I’m not here to share a “theory.”
This is a feeling. A signal. Something that says:
"Pay attention. Something is coming."
I want to start sharing what I’ve been thinking.
Not everything at once—just small pieces, over time.
Maybe I’m not alone in this.
Let me know if you feel it too.
This is just the beginning.
ElJefe_Speaks@reddit
I agree with you. I feel that same unease, very difficult to describe. I assumed it's the feeling of aging. However, a feeling of "impending doom" can be a symptom of sliding mental health. Maybe just the world as it is is making us depressed and putting us in a negative feedback loop. I also often wonder if COVID is having long-term, wide-spread impact on mental health.
earthkincollective@reddit
It's not just in our heads. The more you pay attention to what's actually happening in the world the more suffering and death you see all around us. We're in the Kali Yuga, and sensing that (having to live in it without being able to do anything about it) is affecting our mental health.
sludivvitch@reddit
to me this sounds like a "every generation thinks they will see the world end" type thought. world history is full of humans brutalizing each other. I don't think we are that special.
earthkincollective@reddit
There are so many things unique about the time we are in, not the least the 6th mass extinction in the 6 billion years of this planet's history, and the collapse of the only global civilization to have ever existed. Acting like every generation of humans feels the same is completely insane.
mycofirsttime@reddit
I think it’s also the rising awareness of how incredibly vulnerable we are. We see communities being targeted. Programs being gutted. Due process being thwarted. Is the next shoe that drops going to hit my house?
It’s the realization that things aren’t getting better any time soon. It’s mourning the future we were working towards. Apprehension about what we are going to face. The curtain is being pulled back.
It sucks.
TheCircusSands@reddit
5d is coming…
earthkincollective@reddit
That sentence doesn't make any sense. So the dimensions already exist, this one isn't basically going away or turning into something else. The world of form and life and death will still be here long after humans are no more. The only thing that is going to shift is human consciousness, either when we die or hopefully before.
All this "5D", "New Earth" stuff is just a coping strategy, a way of making ourselves feel better about the apocalyptic times we're in. Things will get better but they're going to get a hell of a lot worse first.
TheCircusSands@reddit
What about the orbs? They seem to be from other dimensions. What’s over our nuke sites? I’ve seen many ‘miracles’ in the past months. This has helped form this view.
earthkincollective@reddit
All dimensions overlap and interact with each other, we just can't easily perceive ones other than the one we're in. Phenomenon crossing over or bridging that gap - or just perceiving what's already there - doesn't mean that our dimension is somehow turning into another dimension.
TheCircusSands@reddit
What is your source for this knowledge? I'd be interested in learning about this perspective.
I've experienced what most call manifesting. But it's too complicated for me to explain in a detailed way. this is the best I can come up with as I'm not as smart as the person who wrote that blog.
The past is static
The present has free will & our consciousness
The future is collapsed upon given the consciousnesses / free will of the present
(brought to you by the mystical quantum physics)
The reason I say this is because perhaps this understanding and respective changes to how we approach our lives could be the shift to 5D. And the fact that we have psionic abilities and that the matrix guides us (syncs). Not changing this world, but we are changed within it.
earthkincollective@reddit
Mainly science, actually. I'm not a physicist but what I've learned about dimensions like 2-D, 3-D, etc is that they all occupy the same space but just different aspects/layers/complexities of it - kind of like how a piece of paper exists in our world even though to a 2-dimensional being who might live in it, it would be their ENTIRE world and they wouldn't even perceive ours.
Also science fiction that introduces the concept of being "out of phase" and therefore partially invisible to others - not because they went anywhere but because they shifted into a different dimension.
Also I've practiced shamanism for many years and "the spirit world" is basically the common term for all the non-physical dimensions put together. Traveling through it is like exploring different realms, and many traditions have mapped those realms to at least some degree.
Putting those shamanic and scientific frameworks together and the non-physical realms can be described as different dimensions.
I agree with this conceptualisation. Unfortunately most people who talk about "5-D" actually believe that this dimension is going to become a different one, which makes no sense from any perspective I'm aware of.
dreamylanterns@reddit
What do you think the future has in store for us? Ever hear about the age of Aquarius?
Real_Stinky_Pederson@reddit
Plastic pollution and pollinator collapse are both huge issues and unique to this time
OrwellWhatever@reddit
That was honestly my thought reading some of the more aggressive posts here
The Rich have been building defensive structures for thousands of years. They are some of the biggest tourist attractions in the world. No one is serious about Mars since, as Neil deGrasse Tyson points out, it's harder to terraform Mars than it is to fix climate change on earth. I'm not saying everything is fine, but there's nothing out there that the rich are more in the know about than the rest of us
RamonaLittle@reddit
Well yes, covid causes brain damage. And of course people are mourning lost loved ones, mourning plans and activities no longer possible due to disability or precautions, traumatized and angry from trying to stay safe in a world where most people seem determined to spread disease.
baconraygun@reddit
The compounding grief. I lost three loved ones in just nine months. Since March '21, I've lost nine members of my family/friend group. It is, to use a technical term, pretty fucked up.
RamonaLittle@reddit
I'm sorry for your losses. There's so much pressure to move on when people haven't had space to grieve. I recall that some NGOs held a National Day of Mourning to bring attention to this.
Logical-Race8871@reddit
That and heart disease! Check ya'lls blood pressure.
But for real, we've been having psych medication shortages since 2018. The people are not well.
lm-hmk@reddit
I feel a constant sense of existential dread. I am struggling really hard lately to be a functional adult. It’s not even any one single thing or two things or three. All things are just ever so slightly off or more difficult or they are drastically so. It’s confusing and dismaying. It’s not necessarily giving up, but it also feels like nothing has meaning anymore.
I, like many, do not have perfect mental health. Doing what I can with what I’ve been given. The forces in the world are not making it easy. Like I feel like my combination of genetics and environment had already mildly doomed me no matter what, but now? Geez even happy, well adjusted people are struggling.
I’m waiting for the autocracy, I’m waiting for the devastating storm, I’m waiting for the inevitable cancer diagnosis due to all the microplastics in my body. I’m waiting for unemployment and a housing crisis. I’m legitimately sad that the asteroid now has no chance of hitting us.
But I’m still going through the motions because I have to, right? Do I want our end to be quicker than we think, or do we want to survive longer? I can’t choose this, so what do I do with it all? Why am I aging into this? Why couldn’t I have been born earlier and experienced, as an adult, the best that humanity will ever achieve?
Existential dread and silent screaming. Fucking ray of sunshine.
IndividualScene7817@reddit
I was going to respond to this thread, but your sentiment is exactly how I have been feeling. I'm just waiting for the cancer to be discovered while still doing the same routine everyday and watching shit turn sideways.
I'm a ball of burning impotent rage and existential dread.
lm-hmk@reddit
Hugs.
corkcambium@reddit
Sometimes, not always, the silence is them feeling it with you. Being reminded that they feel it. And they are there feeling it in your presence because, maybe, just maybe, you made them a space where it could be acknowledged head on. 💚
Hazbin1Worker@reddit
No coworkers? Man, mine won't shut up about how doomed everything feels. Even the rightwingers aren't thrilled in general.
Kind-Communication41@reddit
End of times. Wars and rumors of wars. Earthquakes, pestilence. Bible says even the earth shall cry out. All the world powers are gearing up for war. I have felt it as well these past two years
SinickalOne@reddit
I feel this every day, like a low hum that’s been growing louder and louder with each successive pillar toppling below the foundation of what we thought was our world.
red-sur@reddit
Exactly. I think the curtain is falling. Not to end the act, but to reveal what’s always been behind it. The tension we’re feeling is real, like waves rippling out from something massive in the distance. At first, they were long and subtle, almost imperceptible, but now they’re tightening. Faster, closer. People who can’t hold truth in their daily lives will be shattered when their idea of reality breaks apart. It’s not the event itself they’re bracing for, but the aftermath: the panic, the disbelief, the scramble to make sense of a world that no longer fits the stories they’ve lived by. That’s what the bunkers are for. Not the storm itself, but the storm of reaction. The real preparation is inner, so we don’t lose ourselves when the illusion cracks. Clarity can feel like chaos at first, but it’s still clarity. My advice for those in fear? Get clear inside yourself. Learn what’s real before the world tells you. That’s how you stay steady when everything else starts to shake. There are universal truths, but you’ll only find them by going inward.
ToiIetGhost@reddit
Beautifully said. Do you have any practical tips? Meditation (any particular type)?
red-sur@reddit
Thank you, and I appreciate the question. I’ve tried a lot, meditation included, and while it can be helpful, it’s often not the best place to start. There’s too much noise around what it’s supposed to do. If the goal is clarity, the real move is subtraction.
I challenged myself to see how little I could live with. One by one, I started removing things, not just habits, but inputs, distractions, visual clutter, even ideas. Not to fix anything, just to feel what shifted. Like unplugging a fan you didn’t realize was humming, the silence is shocking.
Without space, even the best practices feel like pressure. So start by creating space. Remove one thing. Observe.
For me, a practical example was alcohol. The longer I went without it, the clearer it became how badly it made me feel. Eventually, I couldn’t consciously choose it anymore. The clarity came through absence, not effort, and it all cascaded from there.
Stay curious. Certainty might feel safe, but curiosity is what keeps you awake. Clarity isn’t something you force. It’s what returns when you stop drowning it out.
If you try it, I’d genuinely love to hear what you discover :)
ToiIetGhost@reddit
My mind is honestly a little blown. I’ve heard of the benefits of minimalism, of course, but not worded/framed like that. You’ve given me a lot to think about. I’m a bit nervous (?) but I’ll start subtracting and let you know how it goes! Thank you :)
red-sur@reddit
Have fun with it! Reframing is the secret sauce!
Avalon_11@reddit
Love the way you put this, so eloquent, though the content is disturbing. Are you a writer?
red-sur@reddit
Thank you. I am.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Yes yes yes the hum…
God I know exactly what you mean, it’s a tension in the air about thick enough to slice…
I feel like it’s just like.. everyone kinda taking a mental stock of everything around them… idk it’s weird… palpable
SqueeMcTwee@reddit
I was on the phone with debt consolidation earlier and I got kinda snippy (my monthly payments are expensive and my husband is unemployed - we’re a mess.) Anyway, when I apologized to the woman I’d been talking with, she got emotional. Less than 5 minutes later we were both crying.
We’ve all been trying to pretend everything is fine for SO LONG. It’s actually amazing we’ve been able to fake it as well as we have. Something is definitely wrong; it’s BEEN wrong. It’s just finally becoming impossible to ignore.
Jukka_Sarasti@reddit
I feel this. When I drive to work in the morning I see the Sunrise over a sky now almost completely devoid of birds, roads where the only evidence of nature is roadkill, in temperatures that grow warmer, on average, each and every year, listen to news that grows more grim and dire with each passing year. There's a very palpable sense the other shoe is waiting to drop..
InTheWoods4Me@reddit
I spend a lot of time outside in nature. Whenever I can get away from work bring my kids with me. In the last 5 years I've seen less insects and less birds. Each year. I spend time near a runoff that joins into a major river. There's a beavers. Damn there. That made kind of a swampish area in years past. It's been loaded with insects but about 5 years ago I noticed almost all gone. I don't ever see ticks anymore or mosquitoes.
I've been watching the world change from the outside for 20 years. I always knew in my heart of hearts that everything we're doing is just not what we're meant for. It's just what I had to do to survive. Both financially and emotionally. Sometimes I just had to be numb to the fact that I was watching the world burn around me making the best I could with what I had and enjoy as many sunrises and sunsets as I was allowed to.
I have two boys and I was very nervous about bringing kids into this world. I think they are the only thing that I truly look forward to everyday. The news is terrible. The world is falling apart bit by bit. There's nothing I can do but make sure that their world holds together a little bit longer than mine. Give them a little bit more sunshine. Keep the clouds away a little bit longer because the Doom is coming at the end of the day. It comes for all of us and I'll probably will draw my last breath protecting what little bit of sun shine I can give to them.
ThorKnight3000@reddit
speaking of the birds, does anybody else think they sound like they are in pain?
deinoswyrd@reddit
It feels like even a couple years ago I'd hear the crows squawking all morning, and now I almost never hear them.
ThorKnight3000@reddit
me too! I have a crow's nest in front of my window and it's been deserted for many years. when I was younger, it housed generations of crows.
deinoswyrd@reddit
They're like my second favorite critter so it's been pretty depressing not seeing them around as much, and I can only imagine that's going to get worse in the future. I feel horrible that I can't feed them anymore
MAK3AWiiSH@reddit
For me it was about 3 summers back - I went on a road trip from my city to a city 4 hours south, where I went to college. When I was 18-22 and made that drive every month or so I’d inevitably have thousands of bugs splattered all over the car. To the point that it almost changed the color of the car. When I went a few years ago there were almost no dead bugs, I could literally count them.
Since then I’ve been painfully aware of the lack of insects. How quiet the nights are. When I was a kid Florida summer meant loud humming of cicadas, croaking of frogs, and other random bug sounds - even in the city. Now? Nothing. Eerily quiet.
I think this and the bird thing you mentioned is a big part of what OP is describing. Humanity has existed with the ambiance of nature for centuries. The world is so noticeably and painfully quiet.
deinoswyrd@reddit
The lack of GOOD bugs. Ticks are running rampant. It's not getting cold enough to kill them in my province.
sherilaugh@reddit
The lack of bugs on the front of my car wasn’t noticeable until someone pointed it out and then it was like…. Holy shit where did the bugs go?
Troysdomi@reddit
I had a breakdown this past Saturday- just bawling and said “this isn’t right” over and over. It was reading about the Earthquake that sent me over the edge. It’s too obvious. Then immediately after reading about the Earthquake you get bombarded with “nuclear threats”. A few months ago I went down the rabbit hole of Curtis Yarvin, Peter Thiel and Musk. They don’t want Greenland for the US. They want it because it’ll probably be the most likely to remain inhabitable after disastrous events. Has nothing to do with mining. It amazes me that people can’t see this or they just want to deny it. I’m not sure at this point. But, but if you say anything you’re a fucking conspiracy theorist!
finishedarticle@reddit
More info on your point about Greenland being viewed as a refuge by the super wealthy -
https://shanealmgren.substack.com/p/the-network-state-peter-thiel-donald
https://america2.news/meet-the-bros-behind-trumps-greenland-bluster/
Trindler@reddit
A couple years ago I had a couple huge breakdowns regarding the state of the world and the trajectory we're heading in. Since then I just feel so numb. Nothing feels real anymore. I think back to growing up two decades ago and it seems like a different reality.
Jukka_Sarasti@reddit
For me, it was being a kid in the 80's. Watching Nova and Nature on PBS with my mom and listening to Sir David warn us about shrinking habitat, pollution, and so on and so forth. And then getting to grow up watching all the dire predictions play out in real time.
sherilaugh@reddit
Growing up with that and then watching the world just not give a shit now. Like we were warned all this would happen. We did nothing. We are still doing nothing. Down to politics getting so far from doing anything that they’re just blaming the other political party for manipulating the weather and not raking forests and such. And seeing people believe that THAT is the problem. As long as money exists they will do nothing and we will all pay the consequences.
The idea that we are probably at collapse of the food system in 15 years leaves me feeling kinda resigned to the idea that we have failed as a race. Now it’s just watching people fight over resources and blindly fighting over things getting more and more expensive because fixing it would have meant giving up some conveniences.
entropicdrift@reddit
Same for me as a 90's kid
andrew_the_fox@reddit
Remember the “tipping points” of climate change? Haha all throughly steam rolled by now I’m pretty sure
TheCircusSands@reddit
"Now what do you turn into
When all reality's blending?
An image of
A photocopy of a lie
I used to think I was born
Into the wrong generation
But now I know
I made it right on time
To watch the world burn
To watch the world burn
To watch the world burn
With a tear in my eye
To watch the world burn
To watch the world burn
To watch the world burn
I'm right on time"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvzRR7wMNWM
TheCircusSands@reddit
The pig villains from the 80's won and now are on a death march against their fellow humans and beautiful Mother.
cozycorner@reddit
It DOES feel like a completely different reality. I don't know exactly where it changed, but I feel bad for kids and teenagers. What kind of world is it now for them?
swoleymokes@reddit
I don’t feel this at all and I don’t know anyone who does
StarlightLifter@reddit
To each their own
swoleymokes@reddit
I guess but I’d rather subscribe to whatever is objectively true. I think there are a lot of converging things going on, including political, economic, environmental factors that may eventually build into something significant, but I don’t feel any sort of hum or psychological tension that is so bad you can see it in the general population. I interact with hundreds of people on a weekly basis for work and I just traveled halfway around the world to a different continent and spent several weeks in an entirely different culture so my sample size is at least decently big for one person. It seems like if there is a collapse coming, most everyone I interact with is blissfully unaware.
StarlightLifter@reddit
Idk I think it varies from place to place.
I live in a neighborhood full of liberals, kinda folksy types… Everyone around enjoys all the creature comforts of the first world, etc. To be clear, I’ve cut out a lot of extraneous stuff I used to do and live modestly as best I can, be as conscious about the environment and my impact as I can and I’m striving to improve monthly.
But it is unmistakable that folks around me are starting to feel a little worried that maybe next week the power might go out and we won’t have AC or “what’s the next shortage at the grocery gonna be?”and shit like that. These first world worries lend themselves to an underlying nervousness that if you’ve been collapse aware for a while, are small potatoes.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
You sure you're not feeling the upcoming recession (plus)? We're due. Hell, we've BEEN due.
StarlightLifter@reddit
All roads lead to collapse - the next depression is just part of that
Grouchy_Ad_3705@reddit
The US used WW2 to get out of the depression, but what happens if the war is on US soil?
andrew_the_fox@reddit
Might I recommend; this song feels like it speaks to these feelings at least in my mind —— https://youtu.be/d5ZxW1r1Zc8?si=jah_B_fjGmXWsXAc
Ghostwoods@reddit
"Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it [...], that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad."
The goddamn Matrix is going to prove to have been the most prophetic movie of them all.
daretoeatapeach@reddit
Also more recently there is a scene that calls out this feeling in Everything Everywhere All at Once. Which supposedly the filmmakers called a "kung fu version of the Matrix." (source)
It's when her hubby tries to explain what's going on. I tried to find the scene but just ended up crying about "doing laundry together" again. God that movie is great.
MissApocalypse2021@reddit
I could watch that movie 1000 times & still love it!
StarlightLifter@reddit
If only the term “red pilled” wasn’t co-opted into meaning “I’m a fuckin asshole”.
It shoulda meant collapse aware.
MissDisplaced@reddit
The Earth does have a sound and vibration all its own. Humans are choking nature.
cjbagwan@reddit
The Shumann Resonance.
The folks on that FB group share electromatic frequency images and tales of sleeplessness . Some claim that the earth is about to ascend to a higher level. If I had to choose, among alternative realities, I'd go with the alien eaters of our fear because I live in Florida.
PaPerm24@reddit
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MissDisplaced@reddit
Oh wow, I did not know it had a name (but it makes sense). I have only been able to “hear” and sense this a rare few occasions in my life and usually outside in nature when it seemed to become very still, you you feel like you are one with the Earth - and can sense it both deep into Earth but also extended without into space.
I suppose people like monks can sense it more frequently because they’re used to practicing deep meditation.
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dreamylanterns@reddit
Wouldn’t be surprised. Lines up with astrology and the age of Aquarius
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TheCircusSands@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/@StefanBurns/videos
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dumpfist@reddit
When did this subreddit become woo woo central.
dreamylanterns@reddit
When did you become a cubed ass
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TheCircusSands@reddit
I'm really happy I don't hold the 'worm food' perspective anymore :) Makes things much easier even on the brink of destruction.
TheCircusSands@reddit
Yes! 5D Earth is coming! I have felt this very much in my personal life.... materialist atheist to deeply spiritual in 3 months. I've witnessed amazing 'syncs' and so have many others.
It's all religion and no religions at the same time.... but you don't need them, just meditation, observation and introspection.
Start with the telepathy tapes...
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TheCircusSands@reddit
It's the woo... you feel it even if you don't believe it. Look at what's happening with the sun right now. I've had an amazing 3 months.... what THIS is, is VERY beautiful. Faith in your eternal soul is the ultimate resilience. Start looking for 'syncs' in your life....
lordunholy@reddit
Did you ever see The Langoliers? This describes that feeling and world perfectly.
SuppleSuplicant@reddit
I also thought about the breakers working on the beams in other King books.
lordunholy@reddit
Whew, it's been a spell since I've opened the pages of the gunslinger, but when I do it's always an adventure for hundreds of pages at a time lol
wholelottachoppaz@reddit
i read that book eons ago, and you are spot on.
PlainRosemary@reddit
That is the most perfect description of the feeling. It almost vibrates in your bones.
I've been feeling it for a few years, but the feeling amped up in November of last year.
Aprowl@reddit
November of last year was some of the deepest in-my-bones pain I've ever felt -- and I've been through some serious shit. Nothing has ever felt like that.
There was a life altering shock and there's no going back to life in the "before times." And there's actually something peaceful about it, too.
In the "before times" I still had hope. Or was it more like desperation? Either way, now at least I know. There's no more desperately hoping for things to turn out right. There is only knowing and a quiet resignation.
runningraleigh@reddit
I grieved hard. I grieved for the good things we've built which will come to an end because they don't make our billionaires richer. I grieved for the world that will never be because we chose hate over love. I grieved for all the people with potential who will never reach it because they'll be living under the heel of authoritarianism.
I started really struggling with drinking. I work from home and it's easy to hide. I still struggle with it, but I am in a treatment program and I'm getting better.
My cope now is prepping. If I can't stop what's coming, then at least I'll be prepared to last a little longer than most.
Aprowl@reddit
I'm not sure if the grieving will ever really end. I've been getting intimately acquainted with those five stages! Denial was actually pretty fun. Getting to acceptance now...
I commend you for realizing that you needed help and putting in the effort to get it. I'm still dealing with my own struggles with drinking! It's not easy. So please accept this high five and a hug 🫂 Keep it up 💖
digdog303@reddit
nate hagens recent podcast with the grief expert helped me make friends with it. it doesn't end, it becomes an ally and valid part of the experience.
soitgoes75@reddit
Do you have a link to that?
digdog303@reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM2sXbmhmao
nakedonmygoat@reddit
Please remember that there are a lot of different ways to approach alcohol abuse. The US is fixated on a 12-step approach which absolutely works for who it works for, but got its reputation at a time when there were no other options and there was no research being done.
You can try the Freedom Model, Refuge Recovery, Dharma Punx, or just CBT therapy or leaning into a religion, if you have one.
At a minimum, please practice Harm Reduction. The basic principle is that if you have to do something stupid, that doesn't mean you have to do it in the stupidest way possible. Don't drive drunk, lock up guns, stuff like that.
My observation is that most addicts of all stripes are dealing with unresolved trauma or high levels of stress in their relationships or workplace. Address these and you might not need to "medicate" yourself anymore.
The important thing isn't the "how" of recovery but the "what." The "what" is getting well, for the sake of yourself and for the sake of those who might be harmed while you seek your rock bottom. People are killed by drunk drivers. They don't deserve that. I have a high school friend who killed his wife while dangerously drunk. He's now in prison and his kids are basically orphans. His wife and children didn't deserve any of that just for the sake of him reaching his "rock bottom."
So get well any way you can. The "what" matters far more than the "how," and anyone who tells you differently is a liar.
Be well, friend!
mujou-no-kaze@reddit
Prepping wasn't the most satisfying cope for me, so I jumped to an adjacent hobby: Permaculture. It's technically a prep, but the idea that some of my plants could out-survive (and out-adapt) me is a thrilling prospect. Hopefully it is also building up the diversity of the local genetic pool. The wildlife is flourishing, at least.
I say that just in case you're looking for a little something "more" compared to the prepping standard.
Prize_Chance_8764@reddit
I so vividly remember walking my dogs on a beautiful sunny morning shortly before the Nov election and feeling pretty happy and content - and then a sudden thought, almost like a voice, in my head simply stated This is the Before Times. I was also one of the many many women who woke up on election morning at exactly 3AM in a panic. And nothing has been right since.
msmilah@reddit
Waking up in a panic at 3AM was me on election night 2016.
cozycorner@reddit
Yes! Yes! This happened to me in January 2020. I was seeing the first reports of what would become Covid. I told my mom that things were going to change and get weird. I remember it was in January because it was the day after my birthday.
Lifesabeach6789@reddit
Holy hell. That 3 am infernal alarm clock still happens to me several x per week. I stay up late hoping the exhaustion will allow at least 4 solid hours of zzz but nope.
Forsaken_Guitar_7696@reddit
This is disturbing. I had Before Times experiences leading up to Nov as well. Right before Covid, as well. I woke up at around 1:15 to 1:30 AM with impending doom. I did not fall asleep to anything related to the election, I did not even fall asleep with much anxiety. I was concerned but I actually was (delusionally because the alternative was too frightening to think about too much) hopeful.
Lifesabeach6789@reddit
I basically surrendered to the futility about 2 years ago. I came to a crashing realization that there was no hope for a happy future of anything. My health starting to seriously fail the same time we had worldwide collective stress. It’s just one day a time now.
I look back at my 20’s/30’s/40’s and wonder why did I fn bother working myself half to death, climbing the broken ladder only to end up less than I started:(.
Felicity_Calculus@reddit
Yup, could have written this exact thing myself. I occasionally wonder if I’d feel more hopeful that I’d be able to fight and/or just survive the world’s decline if my health were better. And also whether I’d feel more confident I could continue to live a decent life despite my health issues if the world weren’t in such a precipitous decline. But as things are, I feel a synergistic despair about the future on a personal and collective level. I fear for myself and for everyone, and most especially for those who are even more vulnerable than I am (minorities, the poor, the elderly, and all the kids who are going to grow up to inherit this disaster without ever even having a chance to stability and prosperity)
Runningoutofideas_81@reddit
This is me after dealing with a cheater and the aftermath. I used up most of my fucks, in some ways it sounds terrible, but it’s very freeing.
chasingjulian@reddit
In the before times we had desperation. Now we don’t even have that.
7101334@reddit
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. Nothing ain't worth nothing, but it's free."
Aprowl@reddit
"I would trade all my tomorrows for one single yesterday..."
(Excellent quote, by the way. It's been one of my favorites for many moons)
dreamylanterns@reddit
To be fair, times will always get worse before it ever gets better. It will get much worse.
NotAllOwled@reddit
I've honestly felt at least a little unwell since November without an obvious organic cause and it's hard not to attribute this at least partially to General Circumstances.
Womec@reddit
Too many people, too much pressure. Society wants to spread out but there is no where to go.
Nora_Oie@reddit
This sub has been predicting this since I can remember.
We've reached carrying capacity and are now reducing Earth's ability to support even the ones who are here. People are manically becoming natalists and worshipping natalists and acting like it's fine if the Earth is destroyed.
Intelligent and education are spurned.
I am pretty old and I've never seen or felt anything like this.
hotwasabizen@reddit
Strangely it feels like such a relief just to hear someone else voice this. Yes, as the hum grows louder and the tension grows our society is crumbling around us. This is terrifying and everyone acts like "it's fine!". So many are falling to normalcy bias. Sometimes I wonder if that is happening because they can't psychologically handle what is happening.
Jackspital@reddit
I've been feeling really uneasy these last few weeks. I can't really explain it, but I feel as if there's a growing unconscious feeling in public as of recent.
Classic-Progress-397@reddit
My imagination likes to play with the idea that this is like some Jacob's Ladder shit, and we are all already dead (or I am and you are all characters in my play).
But in reality, I just think it's all dying... everything. As soon as it exists, it starts to age and die.
Yet new things are always being born.
Lifesabeach6789@reddit
That movie has stuck with me for 30 years. The bathtub scene..,
Classic-Progress-397@reddit
There's another good one-- a UK film called "Running Late."
little__wisp@reddit
This is the best way to explain it that I have found. You can just sense it like some sort of reverberation, growing louder and heavier with every small event that combines into a larger whole. I think we're nearing the end in the US, both the left being disempowered by MAGA and the right being cannibalized by its own people who are now realizing Trump only cares about the rich. Corporations are consolidating an ungodly amount of wealth and power, historical alliances are being tested or otherwise broken (e.g. US-Canada,) and climate collapse is *visibly* accelerating. This is unsustainable.
The scary part is trying to imagine what life will look like even as soon as 4 years out...frankly, I doubt it will be more of the same.
pegaunisusicorn@reddit
https://youtu.be/4TuF-ESWFJY?si=mICFATnc-ZYYrSqG
despot_zemu@reddit
I’ve been feeling it since 23 or so. Like a freight train in a tunnel
CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit
It is like hearing the tornado coming, and you have no basement.
powderbubba@reddit
Fuck. This is an excellent metaphor.
Ilaxilil@reddit
Same
ybetaepsilon@reddit
This concept is called hypernormalization. It's the understanding that the world is going to hell, but there's nothing we can do because we are still obligated to participate in the current economic system. I gotta get up in the morning, go to work, and get my groceries on the way home, while watching the world burn
https://archive.junkee.com/longform/mundane-tasks-world-ending-hypernormalisation
perennialdust@reddit
I think yes, but also there is something deeper. Ideologically, many people are waking up to the fact the current structures do not work and we need to revamp civilization as we know it.
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
As much as the present political atmosphere suicidally depresses me, the thought of people having an ideological awakening is even scarier. Destroying the biosphere including humanity should at least buy the right of dying in your bed. I mean, that's what we bought with fossil fuels. Peace. At least for the richer parts of the world.
perennialdust@reddit
Then you are on of those that will not be contributing to the new ways of being and will continue to cry over spilled milk over what we have done already
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
Things would definitely be better if people spent more time crying and less at contributing. More thinking, less acting. Overshoot = solved.
perennialdust@reddit
Your statement makes zero sense. I know you are trying to be sarcastic but is missing the mark. You are depressed so it makes sense your attitude is negative, but trust me when I say that being depressed is not your fault, it is the system and that is why something needs to happen. Cynicism is not going to help us.
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
Humor is going to help us! There should be hospital clowns for grown ups. As for making sense, less is more makes super sense in the context of overshoot. People in the West seem to be having an ideological awakening to fascism ATM even though there's still snacks on the shelves.
perennialdust@reddit
Not for long. Humor is useful, yes, but not more useful than actually getting organized with like minded people in your community, if there is one. The US really made sure to isolate people for this very reason
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
As long as optimism does not lead to forcing babies into this FUBAR situation, I'm all for it.
perennialdust@reddit
As a child free almost 40 yo person, I fully agree
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
I like you now!
alovingmommyof3@reddit
I have been complaining to myself about this. I hate being forced to keep going like everything is freaking normal when it's not. But it is either that or be homeless and starving whole the world burns.
BlackMagicFine@reddit
I'd say it's still hypernormalization, except applied to the entire global ecosystem, as opposed to "merely" a Cold War era superpower.
MaidenlessRube@reddit
From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45", an interview with a German after WWII. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty. Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.” And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have. But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait. But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D. And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way. Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.
despot_zemu@reddit
The book that coined that term is an excellent read, although very academic and kinda dry. It focuses on the USSR after Stalin to the end.
The most remarkable thing from that book is a deep nihilism in the leadership: no one believed in anything any more, but aped the forms and said the right words like empty prayers.
reeeelllaaaayyy823@reddit
Also the Adam Curtis documentary of the same name.
Ne0n_Dystopia@reddit
Going through the motions.. knowing deep down that it's all crumbling but nobody dare speak it aloud. Sounds familiar.
bluehands@reddit
AcceptableProgress37@reddit
It's an academic work certainly but I didn't find it too dry, just very deliberate in its pacing, almost like it was spun out of a PhD thesis or something.
despot_zemu@reddit
It did feel like that! I was an academic once upon a time, the style didn't bother me, but I like to give a trigger warning lol
Apart-Landscape1468@reddit
Adam Curtis has a documentary on this: "Hyper normalisation". It is available on YouTube.
thesourpop@reddit
It feels so futile because we will keep doing this routine until one day we don't, but it will be even worse by then and far too late to do anything. But until then, work like normal peasants. Nothing to see here!
chaseinger@reddit
how meta to have a word for it.
bscott59@reddit
https://youtu.be/yS_c2qqA-6Y?si=PmPsnOuP2OeR9rjy
No_Abbreviations_84@reddit
I go crazy walking through the streets watching everyone pretend everything is normal.
I do feel a shift in unity with my fellow AA's when we cross in the street that wasn't here before... But otherwise, it's radio silence in the streets as far as acknowledging the breaking down.
Like everyone is pretending and I've got to raise my family like it's not all burning before my eyes. And it's so damn weird.
atdoll10@reddit
Yes, I feel like I'm waiting for something.
zaftigsub@reddit
Thank you for sharing this because it’s happening to me too. And I’m a therapist so I bear witness to my clients’ experiences in this collapse as well.
Fabreezy28@reddit
Yes. Right there with you. You are not alone in feeling this way, things seem to be regretting every day.
Glittering_Film_6833@reddit
For me, my moment of profound fucking panicked, intrinsic understanding was two or three years ago when it was 17 Celsius in December.
jr-91@reddit
This sounds a little hippy dippy, but both with myself and others I know who have tried psychedelics over the years, we've all reported a deep, animalistic connection to nature during these trips. Something primal and deeper than surface level.
Sometimes I wonder if there's this bond between us and either the earth, nature or other people where we feel the planet dying on a bit of a deeper level.
atticotter@reddit
We are all bonded 100%. We are pack animais after all, there's some animalistic bonding, a transfer of emotions and even thoughts that happens between all of us. That's why it's been harder to be around people lately, when someone is fearful or anxious or unwell it stays in the air and since everyone is a bit fucked up rn there's this constant miasma in the air, recently it feels like we are all prey animals lying in wait, crazy times.
earthkincollective@reddit
Absolutely. The experience of that is undeniable.
antikythera_mekanism@reddit
The only thing that still feels normal and right to me is deep nature. Deep in the mountains where there are no signs or sights of humanity. Then I feel sane again and I feel like I’m living on a planet that I know, a planet that is home.
The rest of the time I am feeling just like what you’ve said.
J_Bright1990@reddit
How attuned to gardening, botany, and plants in general are you? Cause I'm seeing sickness and disease in deep nature and a distinct lack of snowpack on the mountains
atticotter@reddit
Yeah even the woods feel weird. Too silent, too dry, too clean, no bugs, no droppings. It's weird.
shapeofthings@reddit
I live in a fairly remote area in Canada surrounded by nature. It feels good here, but we are getting less snow every year- MUCH less lately. The trees are changing- many are dying off as it is too warm. It gets hotter in summer, and the local fishermen are losing their jobs as their usual catches are dying out. People talk about it briefly, but never in depth because I think there is a generalised denial/fatalism that things are not going to get better, just worse. Materialism is less important here, nobody cares about what you wear or drive- and there is a certain amount of despair at the way it seems to dominate the rest of the human world.
StupidizeMe@reddit
I'm in Washington state, surrounded by tall evergreen trees. In the last several years they've started dying, from a combo of draught and what appears to bark beetle infestation. If you look closely the trunks have holes all over with sap pouring out.
The most magnificent Cedars and Douglas Firs are dying so fast it's scary. From perfectly healthy to stressed, withered and dead in about 2-3 years. They die from the top down, and it looks so miserable and excruciating that I can almost feel their suffering! I showed a 10 year old kid, and he told me we're going to be called The Nevergreen State... he's right.
shapeofthings@reddit
Yeah I have a spruce forest at the bottom of our land. It is all dead/dying, but we have load of maple trees sprouting up for some reason. We are lucky to be on the coast so our weather is more temperate and balanced, but warming is wreaking havoc to Canada's nature.
StupidizeMe@reddit
Apparently there's one type of Bark Beetle called a Spruce Beetle, which may be what's killing your trees. From everything I've read, and since the infestation is on your own land, the best thing for you to do is to chop down all the infested trees and burn every speck of them. (By the way, there are deadly beetles that infest broad-leafed trees. I'm not sure if Maples are one of them, but I believe both Oak and Elm are.)
If you have any trees that are not yet affected, you can thin the trees around them and treat them with certain insecticides. I read it's best to do this in the month of May, based on when they swarm out.
The US Forest Service and US Dept of Agriculture (USDA) have free pdfs online showing what the bark beetles look like, and advising how to contain them. I'm sure the Canadian Forest Service has information available online too. Good luck!
ToiIetGhost@reddit
I know nothing about managing forests, but out of curiosity - when you chop down an infested tree with the intent to burn it, don’t the beetles fall onto the forest floor as you’re removing the sick tree? And then waltz on over to a healthy tree?
shapeofthings@reddit
Yeah it's definitely spruce beetle. Thanks for the tip!
ThunderPreacha@reddit
I don't know what is worse, living in a city devoid of nature and being oblivious or living in nature and witnessing it slowly wither and die.
ToiIetGhost@reddit
It depends on what type of person you are. Some personalities are prone to denial, some aren’t. The denial types would find it much more painful to not have the obliviousness and endless distractions of a city with its made up problems like improving your attractiveness or making partner in 5 years.
7101334@reddit
I regard myself as being a secular pagan. Essentially, that there doesn't need to be anything metaphysical to nature in order to recognize it as our creator and as being worthy of worship.
I feel like I've been watching my God die for over a decade.
Psychedelics, direct conversations with nature through chemical means, are one of the last refuges from that feeling. But I only use those extremely infrequently, like months-to-years apart.
earthkincollective@reddit
The latter feels worse but it's the only one that's actually real.
Escudo777@reddit
I always wanted to come to Canada just to visit remote wild locations and spend time in its beauty. I could have easily done it in 2008 as a young engineering graduate from India,just like many of my friends. Years later also I had the chance to try for a PR. Stupid me postponed it. And now as a 40 year old,I might not get a chance to enjoy the Canadian natural beauty.
Now with wild fires and climate change a lot of forests are getting destroyed,which makes me very sad. Capitalism is a poison.
Ok-Proof-8426@reddit
okay but when was the last time you watched a hockey game?
Escudo777@reddit
We have hockey in India without ice! NHL feels like WWE for me.
floryhawk@reddit
Yeah, our trees are hurting too from heat and drought-- shedding lower limbs; breaking off too easily with wind; ash borer and blight on red oaks. The Woods floor looks oddly bare as well. It's similar to over grazing, but I think it's just been too hot and dry for the undergrowth to flourish. No bugs. Nobody mentions it.
ParamedicExcellent15@reddit
They sound like good people
One-Ad-4331@reddit
The deep forests near where I live are 20 degrees hotter than they should be and there's a shocking lack of insects compared to 10 years back, so not really an escape there either
UAoverAU@reddit
I find the lack of insects especially concerning.
HappyCamperDancer@reddit
This. The bugs are to the earth in the way phytoplankton are to the ocean.
They pollenate, they are food for birds and bats and reptiles, they recycle organic material and nutrients back to the soil, they aerate the soil, the list is rather endless. They are a major bio-mass that gets ignored.
ToiIetGhost@reddit
I’m just going to take this opportunity to talk about one of my favourite factoids. Insects are also much more intelligent than we give them credit for, partly because we’re unable or unwilling to conceive of intelligences unlike our own. For example, think of a vast network of ants that covers a large area underground - there will be several ant hills in the area that look like separate colonies but they’re actually all connected. Individual ants are one thing, but if you think of that massive colony as a singular, living, breathing organism, it’s remarkably intelligent.
Something more familiar: ants have passed the self awareness test. Researchers put a dot of blue paint on their bodies and placed them in front of a mirror. Many animals have been tested; most of them try to preen their reflection to help their “family member” get this foreign thing off their body. But ants preen themselves. Can you imagine that a tiny little creature, its brain the size of a grain of sand, has self awareness?
I believe that the absence of insects is partly tied to their alien intelligence. In some ways they may be smarter than us. For example, the way that they work as a whole - they’re beyond communal. We think we’re good at banding together in our small tribes/families? They operate as one! I’m rambling now but yeah. It’s sad and alarming to see bugs get ignored.
ideknem0ar@reddit
The other day I recalled how the headlights on the family car would be bristly with dried bugs when I was growing up in the 80s. Last summer a bug hit my windshield and I jerked the wheel because it was so unexpected.
finishedarticle@reddit
// I jerked the wheel //
I hope you sent it flowers afterwards.
Twisted_Cabbage@reddit
Agreed.
Those who see the signs see no refuge in deep nature.
The forests are sick.
The ecosystems are collapsing.
Nature is dieing.
Severe_Eggplant_7747@reddit
Don't forget microplastics everywhere, including in rain and snow.
Anonymous_exodus@reddit
Cows are needing surgery for plastic in stomachs in some countries. It's accumulating in our brains and basically everywhere else in us, possibly even cells.
trigisfun@reddit
I’m not sure it’s microplastics that are accumulating in cow’s stomachs; instead feed and bedding is wrapped in plastic and shreds are eaten by cows. I’ve heard of farmers who instead of removing the plastic just throw in the whole bale, plastic and all, into the feed mixer or bedding spreader. Then they wonder why their cows are plugged and plastic is ending up in the fields - there’s your microplastics!
Arisotura@reddit
At this point there's no fixing this world, it's just too much. Civ collapse is the only way out. But it also means billions will die. There's no good way out.
snakegriffenn@reddit
its definitely in your cells
HappyTurtleButt@reddit
Nanoplastics are the problem now
naverlands@reddit
i saw an initiative for firefly recently, which reminded me i haven't seen one in at least 10 years.
msmilah@reddit
White people love to mourn over nature and animals but don’t seem to see the connection to people and injustice. You’ll never solve one without the other and you have to start with people.
antikythera_mekanism@reddit
I wonder if your comment is in general or directed at me?
Excuse my whiteness. I happen to be talking about the land of my husband’s ancestors who have lived there for generations and are part indigenous. It’s an honor to be married into a family that has a piece of land high in the mountains of the Caribbean, and other spots around the island also. I am white and I am humbled to be able to raise my kids here where we have access to unadulterated nature and family land with food growing. It’s my kids’ inheritance, not mine. I feel that. But I am here doing my best and cleaning the beaches and learning. I value this land and its wildlife and people to my core.
msmilah@reddit
My comment is a criticism of white European culture of which you’ve indicated you are a part. This trend about environment and animals is a fairly common thing among whites. They will wax poetic and at length about climate change and pit bulls but crickets on mass incarceration and imperialism.
Your “part indigenous” husband’s family have managed to hang on to land? Fantastic. So what’s the other part? Is it white? So you’re white, your husband is at least half white (or probably more), so what does his land owning part indigenous family have to do with anything at all in terms of what you’re saying? Let me help you with that. It doesn’t.
I’m glad you feel some type a way about nature. My comment is that white people talk about these spiritual feelings when it comes to nature and animals but it seems to get too complicated when it comes to glaring injustice that affects actual people. You’re not going to make the world better by being indifferent to poverty and economic oppression and saving all the damn trees and bald eagles. Y’all are the ones cutting down the rain forest, decimating habitat, overfishing and your people tried to kill every last buffalo.
We need to work toward justice for all people in this world, then you can unload the chip on your shoulder from the rightful guilt that you feel. And you won’t have to run to the middle of nowhere to feel what you feel in an environment that your culture hasn’t yet sullied. You’ll feel it everywhere.
antikythera_mekanism@reddit
My husband is indigenous North American and Latino. He is not white.
You sound fucking horrible. Good luck with all this projection. I’m not touching it with a ten foot pole.
msmilah@reddit
What’s the problem with you admitting you are white and your husband is too? You can’t take peoples identities just because you take their land.
Indigenous North Americans were colonized by Europeans and the colonizers that spoke Spanish are Latinos.
It makes NO SENSE to say someone is indigenous North American and Latino but not white when describing their racial make up. They would just be indigenous. Your husband is more than likely indigenous and white from a Spanish speaking country. Ask him.
If you think actually hearing the opinion of a person of color is “fucking horrible” it’s gonna be a hard transition into the new world.
I mean an opinion from someone who doesn’t want your money or your body. Just an equal. I know the trees and dogs don’t talk back so that’s probably an easier approach for you. Get ready for that collapse.
antikythera_mekanism@reddit
It’s not that you’re a person of color, it’s that you’ve singled out a stranger on the internet for some kind of delusional tirade. I am a stranger to you. I spend very little time at all with white people, I listen to and live with people of color every day of my life. Your opinion is horrible because of YOU not your background, which is entirely unknown to me.
My husband is Puerto Rican. Nothing more than Puerto Rican, which includes a great diversity yes but he is a Latino man. His family goes back generations right here on the island, they are farmers not fucking Spanish colonizers. Their genetics include very little Spanish at all, he did a test out of curiosity. You don’t even deserve this much of an explanation, you are just insanely presumptive and disrespectful. Go DO SOMETHING with this energy. It has nothing to do with me, again, I am a STRANGER to you.
I volunteer my time and professional skills to nonprofits that promote Black American legal equity. I clean up beaches here weekly, which can be strenuous and no one pays me but I love to do it. I left my entire family of origin behind because they went MAGA and I won’t have it, won’t be around and I called the FBI on the violent ones. And no my own particular ancestors weren’t shooting buffalo, they were all sitting their asses in Ireland and Scotland in that time period.
You know NOTHING about me except that I am white. You’re embarrassing yourself. Enough. Who are you to tell me anything about my own background and my husband’s racial heritage!!?? Get a grip and volunteer your time somewhere. You shouldn’t be this triggered by a white person saying they enjoy and bond with nature.
fmb320@reddit
I live in a place that has none of that and I can't afford to move even far from a main road littered with plastic.
antikythera_mekanism@reddit
I lived like that for many years and my mental health totally suffered. I am so sorry and I hope you can make a change at some point.
7101334@reddit
Check out CheapRVLiving on YouTube. I don't plan on living in my vehicle full time, but I absolutely would if my situation was different and less-happy.
Be_Kind_to_You@reddit
Yeah me too, I'm craving to be deep in the forest these days
OldTimberWolf@reddit
When despair for the world grows in me and I wake in the night at the least sound in fear of what my life and my children’s lives may be, I go and lie down where the wood drake rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds. I come into the peace of wild things who do not tax their lives with forethought of grief. I come into the presence of still water. And I feel above me the day-blind stars waiting with their light. For a time I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.
Wendell Berry, The Peace of Wild Things, 1968
Still some wood drakes and great herons around, enjoy them while you can.
rhododendronite34@reddit
Love Wendell Berry
cjbagwan@reddit
Too many skeeters here in S Florida
haystackneedle1@reddit
This.. Describes my situation. Every time I come back from nature, the words “back to the phony world” pop into my head. Its weird to go through the motions when its all to keep up a charade.
CheerleaderOnDrugs@reddit
It has become doubly so, since the rise of the smart phone. Smartphony. The change in society is breathtaking.
7101334@reddit
Pixelfed is really great for social media that doesn't make you want to kill yourself, imo. Non-algorithmic feed just like the old internet, but without all the old internet racism and sexism and other terrible bits.
Still would prefer being outside any day, but that's not always an option... and connecting with other people can be nice.
Arisotura@reddit
Every time I see a toddler with a smartphone in their hands...
we're speedrunning Idiocracy. but worse.
pacific_tides@reddit
Why I moved to Alaska ^
All4gaines@reddit
Why I moved to the Philippines
kellsdeep@reddit
Why I moved to rural North Idaho
Kidogo80@reddit
Where? I used to live in Moscow. I miss it.
Direption@reddit
Welcome. It's nice up here.
kellsdeep@reddit
I've never been happier. Moved here two years ago. My wife and I have made actual friends here. Our daughter can play outside without being within 5 feet of us. Kids are riding their bikes around town. Cellphones are mostly for contacting people directly. We spend almost every single weekend camping during summertime. It's a dream.
UAoverAU@reddit
That sounds amazing.
kellsdeep@reddit
No place is perfect, but this place checks all the boxes for us. Going to drive out to our camping spot tomorrow to see if the snows melted 😁
Direption@reddit
Hell yeah, I'm glad it's working out for you here. One of my favorite spots to get to in the summer for a quick out and back is Marie Creek trail. I like to cap it with a huddy burger.
kellsdeep@reddit
That's very near where we camp! Sad what happened to Wolf Lodge..
Direption@reddit
Oh nice! I don't think it's intended for camping but there's a really nice meadow once you get down around the creek. I've camped there a couple times years ago, a great spot.
Yeah that was a bit of a gut punch, I was born and raised here so hearing about that came as quite the shock. Same for the cafe Skyway Cafe over at Felts Field. They're working on repairs now so hopefully it'll be open again in summer.
kellsdeep@reddit
I'll have to ask around about that cafe
cjbagwan@reddit
Which is suffering too
Sknowles12@reddit
Rocky Mountain High Visit Mt Rainier
Ok-Remote-7269@reddit
You and me both, friend. I am spending as much time as possible in nature these days. The more time I spend in the woods, the less I want to return to what, at times, feels like something alian.
Nicksolarfall@reddit
This really hit home. I feel the exact same. Sanity returns where humanity isn't.
ishitar@reddit
Nah, all I can think is all the nanoplastic pollution wafting into these environments on the air and in the snow
Total_Asparagus_4979@reddit
No one lives in alignment
Myth_of_Progress@reddit
🎶
There's something happening here But what it is ain't exactly clear There's a man with a gun over there Telling me I got to beware
🎶
StringTheory@reddit
So in 1966 it felt weird, and in 2025 it feels weird. When does it actually align with reality or is it some kind of collective hallusination?
fd1Jeff@reddit
LOTR: I can feel it in the air. I can smell it in the air. I can taste it in the water.
cozycorner@reddit
I can feel it comin' in the air tonight, oh Lawd.
TuneGlum7903@reddit
Personally I'm a Talking Heads fan.
Burned all my notebooks, what good are notebooks?
They won't help me survive
My chest is aching, burns like a furnace
The burning keeps me alive.
This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
This ain't no fooling around
No time for dancing, or lovey dovey
I ain't got time for that now.
lm-hmk@reddit
The song I’d choose is Blind
No sense of harmony, no sense of time Don't mention harmony, say "What is it? What is it? What is it?" Give a little shock and he raises his hand Somebody shouts out, says "What is it? What is it? What is it?" He was shot down in the night People ride by but his body's still alive Girl in the window, what has she done? She looks down at me, says "I don't want to die"
TuneGlum7903@reddit
Wow, I hadn't replayed that song in my head for a long time. Thanks!
lm-hmk@reddit
I love their entire catalog, and there are other standout songs for sure, albums or songs that are arguably way better. But this whole album hits differently — it was a different direction for them and the final studio album. Cool Water really gives chills sometimes, and Nothing But Flowers? “If this is paradise, I wish I had a lawnmower…”
Who knew that 1988 would be so prescient and relevant to today?
NoExternal2732@reddit
I think it's time we stop Children, what's that sound? Everybody look, what's going down?
kingfofthepoors@reddit
For what it's worth -- Buffalo Springfield
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_39eAx3z8
mhummel@reddit
"Just where is our future?
The things we've done and sa-id.
Let's just push the button
We'd better off de-ad...."
416246@reddit
Made a nod to you in today’s contribution. Also had architectural training/education . We have that in common I guess :)
TuneGlum7903@reddit
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the men come and take you away.
XDSDX_CETO@reddit
Yes I do feel it. I’d like to PM about it…
alovingmommyof3@reddit
Above someone suggested a group chat. Sounds like a good idea. Just reading comments feels kind of one sided when I want to have back and forth conversation.
XDSDX_CETO@reddit
I'm still a little slow at setting up certain things but I do have a domain where I'm in the process of setting up a blog and a chat space for a variety of diferent and related subjects. If you'd like an invite to these spaces when I get it up and running soon, shoot me an email at khoalewis@proton.me
Queendevildog@reddit
Its nice to know you arent the only one right? Right!
OkBig205@reddit
The seals are opening
RainbowandHoneybee@reddit
Everything feel surreal to me atm.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
Yes!
Maleficent_Count6205@reddit
I have been feeling like this for quite some time, it started as a nagging about a decade ago, and has been getting louder and louder inside. It’s almost a crescendo in my head of “it’s coming it’s coming it’s coming” over and over.
So I completely understand. And yes, most do just laught at it. Which is frustrating but looking at psychology makes sense. Our minds are great at making up stories about things we can’t comprehend to make it “easier to digest” in a way. So all the signs of climate change are made to be from something else. Something less scary that they can understand.
Just keep listening to your intuition. That voice telling you something is coming is there for a reason. My voice is telling me to make a trauma kit, so that’s what I’m currently putting together and learning how to use everything. Found a company that does emergency medications and cheating that too.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
It was a little over ten years ago for me that the feeling grew very strong. I started to write a short story about it but never finished. Few have read it because it feels like people reading it will either make things worse or people will laugh it off.
ThymeMintMugwort@reddit
I felt it a long time ago too, in my teens in the early aughts. I went to school for filmmaking but our college required us to take 3 classes outside our department. Boy did that blow my mind open… World Problems and solutions (they had no solutions to offer), Garbage, Agriculture and Food Supply (taught by a retired teacher who could do and say anything he wanted and had slides of him in over a 100 countries on 6 continents, visiting and talking to local farmers). I graduated and moved to the woods because I knew I didn’t have the skills needed to survive in this world… and the film industry is most definitely rife with sexual predators. Everyone thought I was insane. My purely financially driven father legally disowned me. No one would hold a conversation with me about GMOs or our food supply or any number of taboo topics. I imagine the bravery of Rachel CarsonI and others to persevere even before my time when no one cared. I gave up talking to people about it because no one would listen. Now, despite no longer being in the woods (hopefully we will find our way back) I can grow things, I can cook and preserve things, I can build things, I can fix things, I can save lives, I can take lives.
This thread brings me comfort and doom. Comfort that I’m no longer alone feeling this way. Doom that we must be closer to the fall if so many people can’t ignore the feeling anymore. I think of it like the ripples in a pond from a thrown rock. The rock is the event but you can feel the ripples from the future or past depending on what side you are on. Depending on how sensitive you are you can feel it from further away. So many less sensitive people can feel it now so we are closer, in the bigger ripples.
I have always hoped that whatever goes down, will happen while I’m still young enough to fight (protect the family I now have).
I like what an above commenter mentioned, that a solar flare would be a great way to help level the playing field and give earth some breathing room.
mentioningme@reddit
Could we make a group chat
alovingmommyof3@reddit
We should. I want a real back and forth conversation rather than reading one post with one sided comments if that makes sense.
Paystyle2000@reddit
Mother Earth is getting ready to cleanse herself like so many times in the past. We fuckin squandered this gift completely. The complete disregard for life and love of all fellow earthlings human and nonhuman comes with a cost.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
Yes I say eatg could be doing that as well.
JKrow75@reddit
You’re feeling what a lot of people and animals are feeling right now.
Something really, really, REALLY fuckin bad is going to happen soon.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
You mentioned animals. Sometimes I get the feeling one of my cats feels it. I have two but basically live with four (I live in a duplex with a cat door between the two sides and my son is on the other side). Maybe two of them feel it. The other two might be too young to feel it.
Fit_Source_7196@reddit
How do I get regular updates on this thread? Because Yes.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
Tap the three dots in the upper left corner and tap follow post. At least I think that is it. There used to be a subscribe option but I don't see it..
Electronic-Sale-4228@reddit
I feel this way too. I feel it in my bones. Like my 6th sense has been alerted.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
I say I feel it my entire body and soul. I've felt it most of my life and in 2013 the absolute dread really hit me.
alovingmommyof3@reddit
Me too! Me too! Me too to everything you said. I'll talk about it with you. I've bern itching to talk about it to the point of depression. People don't care, are scared, or don't have a clue. Or they are too busy with life to have a chat.
Rossdxvx@reddit
I feel like there is no coming back from this and that the rest of my life will be diminishing returns. I am nearly 40, so I may get to live out the rest of my life. Idk, things are definitely not going to get better. However, a sudden crash or a slow burn is hard to foresee.
TinyDogsRule@reddit
I don't want to be a downer, but.... I'm approaching 50 and I do not feel like I'm going to get to live my life, at least not somewhat normally. Think about Trump 1.0. insane, but until Covid, it was easy to tune out and live. Five years later, the US is nearly unrecognizable. Trump 2.0 has no guard rails and a death cult following him. Five years from now will be exponentially worse. And that's not even including the beat down Mother Nature is about to unleash. We are going to see so much death in our remaining years and decades. Our number may come up faster than expected.
Jcolebrand@reddit
Same boat as you. My wife keeps talking about "when we are able to retire" and I just don't see that as a possibility in my future, ya know?
Pea-and-Pen@reddit
My husband is talking about buying a third car that we don’t need, making vacation plans for the summer, etc. I just keep pushing it off because we don’t even know if he will still have a job! He’s a federal employee and is pretty much in denial of everything.
_LarryM_@reddit
Some people would rather just not do what they should if it means admitting the situation is out of control. Its why my sick dad died without a will even with reminders that its a good idea. He was just scared of admitting he was dying.
Jcolebrand@reddit
That sounds rough as heck.
I understand your concerns and feel for you
CollectionNew2290@reddit
Let her have her dream. It may be the only thing keeping her going.
Rossdxvx@reddit
Perhaps, but the future is not ours to see, as they say. Eventually, everything comes to an end. Whether we see the ending of our civilization before our own end, I just don't know. All I know is that it does not look good from where we are standing now.
AnOnlineHandle@reddit
The future has gone pretty much exactly as I've expected for decades now since escaping the christian evangelical cult I was raised in and seeing nobody understand the threat they posed with all their plans to take over.
Now it's all playing out as I feared, people still don't want to face the reality of how dangerous religion is, and I see far worse ahead because people aren't even willing to face the reality and preparing, let alone just being underprepared and outgunned.
NadiaYvette@reddit
I’ve never believed and never been in direct contact with any of that, yet I somehow arrived at the same conclusion you did. I’ve never been able to persuade anyone that the Christofascists weren’t a mere joke & I doubt the severity of the harm done will ever sway anyone who’s not already been directly harmed themselves & understands it as the product of such.
Rossdxvx@reddit
We still have to live, get up every day, and the sun is still shining. I know that sounds cheesy, but even people in Auschwitz at the height of the killing had to find some kind of silver lining. I am still too young to throw in the towel yet. I know shit is going to get worse. We all know this. It is finding that reason to go on which is the hardest.
And I agree. A lot of this has been a long time coming. Cause and effect. You can't have an effect without first having a cause. The best we can hope for is that enough humans will feel the catastrophic effects of their causes and wake up before it is too late.
earthkincollective@reddit
Christianity has probably been the single biggest force driving the Kali Yuga, honestly.
springcypripedium@reddit
Agree. Between human induced ecological collapse and political/societal collapse we are completely screwed.
The post here today about 75 % of scientists wanting to get out of the u.s. in addition to those that have already left or are currently packing to leave (while they can--https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cvDtqycEWk&t=6s)---this literally makes me sick as those that can't leave will be stuck here amidst the violent, brutal chaos that is unimaginable to most people.
But . . . it's not like there is a stable climate anywhere on Earth anymore. Even if we could leave, we might buy some time in a country that isn't full fascist yet, not surrounded by magats who are frothing at the mouth with hate. It's so fucking dire. And that is the truth.
How to cope with being stuck here??? This is so hard. I've never liked the u.s. but even I could not imagine this level of hateful craziness.
GhostofGrimalkin@reddit
I wish I could argue with you but I feel the same. The unraveling will continue to happen faster and faster, and though human beings are very adaptable there's no adaptation in our history that can prepare us to survive the years to come.
Fuck I wish it weren't true, I almost miss back when I was in denial about the path we are on because at least I had my false hope to cling to.
JonathanApple@reddit
I knew it could fall apart fast, I was hoping it would hold longer, watching it is unreal.
shesthunder@reddit
I am about to turn 30. I used to think I’d have an uneventful life and die of old age, but I no longer think that’s how I’ll go. It’s a weird, primal feeling. A looming, ominous sense that I know the thing to kill me will be a climate crisis or a pandemic or some such thing, and there’s nothing I can do about it. Not an “if” but a “when”.
Rossdxvx@reddit
I already ended up with an adulthood that I did not think that I would have as a kid. I think that millennials in particular... I don't want to say that we were misled (perhaps, we were), but our expectations were far higher than reality could ever possibly deliver. Like I said, diminishing returns. I had a life of abundance back in the 90s (or so it seemed) that was relatively happy, and it has been slowly getting worse with each decade since then.
Obviously, the seeds of collapse were already sown back then. I just did not know about it. What we are watching now is it coming to full fruition. We used to be the future.
Logridos@reddit
The vast majority of millennials and younger generations aren't going to get the opportunity to die of old age. Mass famine and climate wars are barreling down towards us.
recoup202020@reddit
I was discussing with my wife and a marriage counsellor why I don't want to have children (she does). I said, "because I think it's highly likely they'll meet their death by violence".
shesthunder@reddit
I used to think I might have kids, but I am horrified imagining the world they’d live in after I’m gone. Climate change is scary. Future generations will be struggling to inhabit a planet that is no longer hospitable to life.
SamSlams@reddit
It may be dark and pessimistic to think about but it's a very real possibility. What will healthcare look like in 20 or even 30 years from now? Look how bad it currently and it's only getting worse. Many will pass away from disease and illnesses that were once easily managed or treated.
The best thing any of us can do is be as prepared as possible. Try to be as healthy as you can now. Exercise and be as fit as you can. Learn survival skills and how to grow and store food. The overwhelming majority of people are unprepared for what is going to happen. Just think of how many people outright deny it and/or think it's a hoax. Then you got a good chunk who don't care, or have the "won't affect me" attitude. By the time you keep breaking it down the amount of people who will be prepared is pretty small. Just knowing that it's going to get worse before it gets even worse puts you ahead.
Rossdxvx@reddit
You are right. This is some good advice. Forget what other people believe. I just had someone the other day tell me that the government controls the weather. In this era of unreality, it does not mean that reality/truth just suddenly vanishes. We know what is happening and what is going to continue to happen. Ignorant people are like fools walking off of a cliff blindfolded. You can't afford to be that person nowadays.
s0cks_nz@reddit
Just turned 40. I think it's highly unlikely we make it another 40+ years. I'm betting that things will likely start to fall apart dramatically just as we become the prime age for health issues. Delightful.
Ok-Proof-8426@reddit
guess so.
recoup202020@reddit
I have a hunch shit will be pretty pear-shaped by 2050. I think it will be inescapably obvious by then that we're headed for collapse, which itself will bring about a whole lot of craziness from individuals and governments
s0cks_nz@reddit
Yeah pretty much. Which means its all gonna be going to shit as I approach 60. I really need to get fit asap.
teamweird@reddit
N95s+ are your friend. Avoid the infections and the smoke too.
Rossdxvx@reddit
Probably. I know the rest of the century are going to be bad times. Humans will probably go extinct by the 2100s. It is a weird feeling knowing that the rest of your life is a massive slide down.
s0cks_nz@reddit
It's depressing, but I feel worse for my kid, and all his mates.
Sknowles12@reddit
I’m 70. Remember the FAMILY doctors with one nurse and one receptionist. We received very good care, and even an occasional home visit. Now fancy, pretty clinics with a lot of staff necessary (to keep up to the insurance game). Now age 70, it’s always a month til next available appointment and horrid phone systems.
CaptainBirdEnjoyer@reddit
And there's absolutely no way we get the same level of medical care and treatment our grandparents and parents got.
cjbagwan@reddit
Their's wasn't so great in the USA. I've cared for 6
CreativeArgument3132@reddit
At least you had a chance
Le_Shwa_16@reddit
I'm not a religious person by any means, but this was foretold in the end times. The greed, the hate, the separation between people. It's the utter lack of love I think. We all care for our cell phones more than we do for each other. I catch myself sometimes remembering what it was like before and I feel a profound sadness wash over me. Like the loss of a loved one or something.
gberliner@reddit
They *think* they are preparing. But they just live a much richer fantasy life than the rest of us. So they are led to imagine that they are going to enjoy a vibrant future atop a planetary toxic slag heap. And they fail to realize that slag heaps liquify when shaken, and are not stable places for constructing any permanent structures.
StormyDey@reddit
Yes!
duckduck-a-go-go@reddit
That feeling is your survival insticts trying to tell you something. There is a global disaster brewing unlike anything we have ever experienced before.
trotskimask@reddit
Oh yeah. We’re all doing our best to survive the crisis of the day, and meanwhile the climate’s just a little hotter and a little less hospitable to human life every year.
If you can, find people in real life who also feel this and find a way to talk about it together. It’s helpful to process this stuff with other people around, that kind of human connection is the best way humans have come up with to navigate things too big for any one of us to understand or escape.
Intertravel@reddit
I have never felt an impending doom like this before. There are too many people prepared to do violence for their beliefs, some perhaps with more reason than others. Never in my life have I felt honestly scared of having an opinion, never.
The thing is, we have too many enemies now.” I can just imagine the events in that film “Leave The World Behind,” happening more and more now.
JenFMac@reddit
Reading this post and all the comments is both validating and terrifying. Feeling that constant “Danger is coming” feeling all the time is exhausting. And I find myself talking myself out of it “Everything is fine, you’re paranoid, you’re wasting time and money in preparing.” and I let myself get lulled numb until the feeling spikes again. And these comments make me feel less alone. Surely this many people feeling this certain way cannot be a coincidence.
CFUsOrFuckOff@reddit
It's the worst truth a person can be burdened with in a world that doesn't do uncomfortable truths to start with.
Until it's the only thing we talk about - our shared base reality - it has no place in the structure of polite discourse and focus on avoiding panic, and cannot be discussed.
I've written a lot of letters and a few articles under my real name on the topic, but when you approach it head on, it's perceived to be some sort of attack or freak out. There's literally no way I've been able to discuss my understanding of the state of things without people deciding I'm in crisis.
I stopped trying... because, eventually we HAVE to talk about it, and I can wait for that.
Admirable-Row-9442@reddit
I feel this deeply. Like would humans even exist in a century or so? I feel the earth is restoring its equilibrium in a geometric scale where humans are maladapted to.
msmilah@reddit
I just had a stranger give me a full frontal hug in a parking lot when I handed my empty grocery cart to her to use.
Yeah, it’s there and many are feeling it. You are not alone.
It-s_Not_Important@reddit
Aerosmith have been talking about it since 1993!
JulianCribb@reddit
Yes, see Delete the Earth, https://cribb.substack.com/p/delete-the-earth
KittyGrewAMoustache@reddit
It’s because things are changing so fast. We had the pandemic, which shook a lot of people’s faith in safety or the idea that things are stable and humans are in control. We have social media, which can show us all the strange and horrible things happening everywhere and which has been deliberately used to manipulate people and turn them against each other for the benefit of assholes. We’ve only really had mainstream social media for maybe 13 years and it’s a huge change to the way we think, communicate and experience the world, which changes behaviour even if subtly.
We as a species only first invented the car 100 years ago and look at how much has changed since then, just faster and faster development that our brains can’t quite catch up with. Mainly though it’s these people who are already Uber wealthy using the advent of social media and the lack of regulation to try to rework the Western world as it used to be, an essentially feudal society.
Nobody in governments knows that ‘something is coming’ really, not anymore than anyone else. We know climate change is going to create more disasters and increase migration and reduce resources so I expect some of these people are thinking of that. Some of them are just insane and delusional and cut off from reality. But they don’t really have special knowledge. They rely on scientists and it’s difficult to keep scientific facts under wraps.
People feel uneasy because of all these things and to be honest, humans are kind of generally always pondering about great disasters and Armageddon. Our literature, the bible, our movies & tv shows have been fascinated with this stuff, we’re primed to look for it and seek it out. So when things change or big things happen we feel uneasy, so we’re ready for the next thing. And people have felt that way for hundreds of years. But it’s still prudent to be ready, it’s obvious that the way we’ve changed over the last century is having significant effects on things.
No_Godsplease@reddit
My gut wrenches, anxiety swarms me, and panic sets in. Hard to breathe, hard to think, hard to feel anything other than unadulterated existential dread. And I don’t know why. I am absolutely terrified. I feel like my time, my wife’s time, our time, everyone’s time is up. And I just want to feel normal. Like i want to be able to just blissfully exist. But I can’t.
kalydrae@reddit
There is something about nature and even our psyches that tends towards chaos. I have a theory that ever han longs for a simpler more fundamentally survival-based life... The collapse is just one way that could happen...of course to get to the agrarian culture we might really need, we probably have to go through destruction and mayhem. I dream of the /r/solarpunk age.
25TiMp@reddit
You are probably feeling the world dying.
EnvironmentalLab8653@reddit
Gaia will not die. She will relinquish the things that Bring her harm or no longer serve her.
25TiMp@reddit
You are correct. But, we will go extinct. This is non-optimal imo.
NexorProject@reddit
Yeah, somethings might survive.. but alot of precious and inoccent living beings are going down with us.. So saying gaia will survive is like saying cockroaches and microorganisms would survive nuclear war..
While not incorrect.. the living beings who contributed the least to this chaos will suffer the most.. for most people that's the earth since it was home to all of this beings since any (somewhat) recorded history.
Ecoaardvark@reddit
Everyone be ignoring the reality of NHI
dreduza@reddit
preparing for climate change, food shortage and the chaos comming after..
Grouchy_Ad_3705@reddit
The US has been, as the richest country, in control economically of most of the planet. It's not nice but it's true. The USA is being upended to give up that control and being plunged into economic freefall. As the climate gets more and more extreme people everywhere will be afraid of the uncertainty and will turn to power-hungry con men because their voices will be the loudest. We are way beyond capacity in population and a great decline is approaching.
h2ogal@reddit
Agreed. I went into a deep depression about it when I became collapse aware around 2021 or so. I’ve pulled out of that now and realize that there’s no sense hating all humans for our weaknesses, this was an inevitable result of our evolution or biology and the discovery of using oil as energy.
I don’t know that there is any antidote for how you’re feeling, but some of the things that have helped me are taking action (prepping and taking care of people) and also spending time and resources to enjoy life along the way.
When I get really down, I focus on my role as a witness like it’s my job. I guess philosophically that helps a little bit.
Something I still struggle with is trying to talk about this with other people, at first everyone thought I was out of my mind and then more and more people became aware, but many went into denial or avoidance. So I still struggle with wanting to shake people and say wake up. But some people are just not capable or equipped or are handling it in their own way and I’m not doing them any favors by pushing.
Ok_Split1342@reddit
What upsets me is, it didn't have to be this way. We have the knowledge and means to humanely control our population. We have incredible ingenuity as a species and are capable of great empathy. We could have something close to paradise on earth if we'd just practiced a reasonable bit of restraint and self sacrifice. But a certain percentage of our population has always and will always remain addicted to greed and power, and have therefore ruined it for the rest of us.
ChloMyGod638@reddit
I became collapse aware less than a week ago and have been puking every day since 😭
h2ogal@reddit
The only way past it is directly through it. You can’t unknow.
Something that helped me quite a bit was some YouTube videos on systems and system collapse.
The gist of it was That all living organisms are evolved to conserve their own energy and utilize external energy whenever possible. (Like the craving for sugar is one of the most addictive). And the fact that we discovered oil and its uses, well it’s just completely inevitable that we will use every last drop to save ourselves the expenditure of our life force and energy.
Something along those lines. That saves me from feeling the shame and guilt a bit. It allows forgiveness
And I also forgive the people who deny and refuse to see it coming and who keep voluntarily bringing more people into this mess. Their fear or lack of rationality is not their fault. It’s so big it’s really incomprehensible to most people. And the solutions at this point seem out of reach.
Live and strength to you. 💚
TheLastLolikoi@reddit
I agree about the witness role, I go there too where there is nothing left. It's strange that people aren't telling me I'm overreacting anymore. They quietly nod now. That shift has been surprisingly fast.
I used to joke - I'm not a doomer, I'm pre-grieving! Going through the stages of accepting the loss. The past week or so, people around me are starting to become aware that something is wrong. Seeing their realization is heartbreaking all over again.
mooky1977@reddit
Dude, it's all fucked up. From the micro to the macro, we are fried man!
Take comfort in knowing the collapse comes for us all. Bunkers won't keep the uber elite safe forever. It will come for them too.
Try to stay sane in your own little ways as long as you can.
Tarpy7297@reddit
Yeah we here. It’s going to come whether we are ready or not. It or part of it made a brief showing in December 2024. I just hope I don’t die first.
RI-Transplant@reddit
There was a commenter that disappeared about a year ago. He wrote a lot about the collapsing world, very scientifically. He really got to me. I think the “elite” Know what’s coming and are trying to hide it to the best of their ability because it will cause absolute panic and chaos if we know the world will become uninhabitable in 5 years. Or 10 years. They’re scrambling, trying everything they can think of to cool the earth. Contrails, volcanos, earthquakes spewing dust into the sky. Last resort is nuclear winter. A limited exchange. Darken the skies. While they wait it out in their underground bunkers.
MaidenlessRube@reddit
From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45", an interview with a German after WWII. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk alone; you don’t want to “go out of your way to make trouble.” Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty. Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, “everyone” is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, “It’s not so bad” or “You’re seeing things” or “You’re an alarmist.” And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have. But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait. But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds of thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions, would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the “German Firm” stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all of the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D. And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying “Jewish swine,” collapses it all at once, and you see that everything has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way. Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early morning meetings of your department when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.
Avalon_11@reddit
Being from India, am very surprised that so many people here are aware of Kali Yuga. Not sensing/picking up anything at all personally, but lots of folk here and elsewhere are able to perceive that something is up.
Fortunateoldguy@reddit
Man, I’m so with you. I’m 70 and have never ever felt this before.
amroth62@reddit
I’m reading a lot of comments here totally agreeing with OP, but nowhere am I seeing any of you working out that you need to, you know, DO something!
Get up, go out there and protest. Insist your government do better to deal with the climate, microplastics, and the rest of the bs going down.
Stand in your windows and scream “I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore”. Join your local protest groups - they are out there. We might still go down, but how about we go down fighting? Will your legacy be that you did nothing and let it come? Collapse is a long and slow process - very likely your kids will have the opportunity to feel as you do. How do you want them to perceive you?
tmartillo@reddit
I’m prepared for the downvotes:
In 2016, I had the clear as day same sense. It led me down all sorts of rabbit holes that ultimately led me to this subreddit. The strings that I tugged on:
The wandering magnetic poles and pole shift hypothesis, history of magnetic reversal
Solar flare hypothesis and solar maximum —still one of my favorite collapse wildcards because it’s one of the few scenarios that I can believe would actually level the disinformation field and unite consciousness
Climate collapse being further along than reported (in 2016 timeframe)
Jeffrey Epstein’s blackmail connections to both sides of politics and the transnational crime syndicate masquerading as governments between Trump’s first term, Russia, Israel, Saudis, the Grand Bargain.
And, most fringe, as I am in a new age field and have been since 2010, many of my clients have intuitively been sensing with more veracity and ferocity what I can only describe most succinctly is like Kali Yuga.
I dont know. In 2016, I truly had hope for a different outcome, and now I’m more pragmatic that there’s absolutely no savior on a grand scale. I want nothing more than something to level the playing field and unite humanity so that we have a chance to save living creatures from the escalation of war and the spiritual warfare of the literal evil deeds the wealthy have engaged in to maintain their power and wealth because IT IS THAT NEFARIOUS AND DIABOLICAL. I’m not being hyperbolic.
As of this moment, I tend to believe we are on the cusp of a revolutionary spirit and if I were to make a prediction (based on astrology because fuck we might as well throw all spaghetti at the wall at this moment) it will be when the planet that represents revolution, Uranus, moves into Gemini, in July as it was when France and US had their revolutionary wars when Pluto was in Aquarius as it is now (again).
The cruelty is the point. They want us bitter, broken, and dead. They want fewer people, they want enslaved bots so they can live in their bunkers with generational wealth and the chosen few.
My fave wildcard collapse options: aliens and solar flare. Find local community. Generate grace, love, and kindness. Be the opposite of the evil they sow.
shesthunder@reddit
I will probably be downvoted, but I feel like I haven’t had an outlet to say this anywhere before. I truly feel like the last chance for us to start fixing things on earth is if we come across aliens. The two best case scenarios: the aliens are intelligent and benevolent and can share technology or information that can help us unfuck the environment. Second option, the aliens want to kill or oppress us, in which case I think that could be the thing that actually unites a lot of humanity. It’s not left vs right anymore, it’s humans vs aliens. I know that probably sounds so dumb, but it’s how I truly feel haha. The worst case scenarios of aliens include: aliens do straight up obliterate us. Or the aliens are not evolved/intelligent, and we fuck things up by killing them or something, which humans are incredibly good at doing.
ValMo88@reddit
r/disastro
Geaniebeanie@reddit
I ain’t gonna downvote ya, dude. We ARE in the Kali Yuga. Color me shocked if we ain’t. lol
I’m not religious anymore, but I carry some beliefs within this old noggin that I’ll never be able to shake (nor do I want to, at this point) and that’s one of them. Interesting to hear someone else here mention it.
I’m kinda sorta into new age stuff; I hang out in all kinds of different subreddits that wouldn’t think twice about what you’re saying lol. I mean, we’re not all a monolith, but it’d be better received.
If you do get downvoted, oh well: Reddit is gonna Reddit lol but in this day and age, we need to believe in something, either spiritual or secular, and everybody deals with this shit in their own way.
dreamylanterns@reddit
Same man. Spiritual but religious. I whole heartily believe in God… but not like religions teach. The difference was that my entire life changed once I experienced it for myself. I felt an energy that seeps in and out of everything living thing. It is the bounds of reality in and of itself, it is life. God is the energy of life and love in a conscious form. I don’t understand how it works… but it’s incredible.
Queendevildog@reddit
I completely agree. Even though I am a rational engineer by training its hard to ignore the overall vibe. There was a huge energy shift when Pluto finally moved into Aquarius late last year. Like enormous gears grinding silently in space time. This is the set-up and this deep uneasiness is real. We can feel the imminence of something very difficult, unpleasant but necessary and transformative. Good luck to everyone. We will need all of it.
dreamylanterns@reddit
Good luck to you as well. It’s interesting that you say that, and I agree whole heartedly. Last year around that time is when my life actually transformed spirituality as well… I experienced something so profound. So crazy. I’ve mostly kept it to myself… but the truth is that whatever you want to call it God, The Universe, Consciousness, I was able to experience it. I’m not a crazy person, I’m in college, am sane, have hobbies.. and just overall do normal people things. But I got this kind of feeling or so, that something big is going to happen soon. It felt like the entire universe was sad and mourning over the fact that us human are destroying ourselves. That basically none of what we do matters. All our cars, money, houses, jobs, don’t matter one bit. It doesn’t. We have completely dilated what true meaning even is anymore. We can’t tell which way is up from down. We have become disenfranchised.
One more thing. The one most important thing that I felt was community. Tell everyone you can, love everyone you can, help everyone you can. Love is all that matters.
dreamylanterns@reddit
100% agree. I’ve felt this. Something big is going to happen soon that will change humanity forever. It will get worse before it gets better, but I do truly think it’ll get better.
It’s interesting because a ton of people are starting to wake up from their slumber. Slowly but surely.
Neat_Ad_3158@reddit
Something feels wrong with the world? The world is on fucking fire. Are you living under a rock?
EmbersEtoile@reddit
We do semi-montly drives between Southeastern PA and Elkton Md that take us through Deleware as well. So many different neighborhoods. This last trip I got to be the passenger, so I could really look around.
The areas of affluence look like BAU; clean houses, no litter, mostly new cars in the driveways, manicured lawns, etc.
Then the rest of the areas... you can feel the decline and decay. You see it in the way businesses and residents don't invest in power washing their buildings anymore or for fancy landscaping. The broken fences that aren't mended, the yards filled with broken items. Litter wherever you look. You see it in the many closed and shuttered mom and pop stores. Then in the larger stores as well-- like the sears building or macys or even boscovs. The houses have sunken in roofs, or obvious structural issues dotted between bright and shiny churches. And some not so bright and shiny churches. Most of the smaller shops we pass are empty. We are driving in peak hours of the day (between 1p and 4p).
We notice the closed restaurants and the foreclosed homes while driving, but also notice the New Construction almost everywhere. So while some places are being allowed to decay, where you can see people losing senses of pride in their possessions and property, etc... there are other areas getting a huge facelift. But it's often new housing developments that are too expensive, or commercial buildings that are making everything look more and more 1984ish. There's no places being built for common good or common use that we see along our drive. We pass parks as well that are obviously in need of care. There's a sense of "someone else will do fix this" everywhere we turn.
Some areas are rural but maintain an air of untouched by all of this nonsense. The farms are well manned and tended to.
I don't know, it feels like the quiet before a really bad storm. What do people do when they lose everything? Because it feels like that's what is happening to everyday people all over the globe, not just the East Coast.
Disclaimer: I tend to ramble and make no promises that my statements reflect reality everywhere. They're just observations and a ramble about a drive.
NiteSection@reddit
Its everywhere. You see it in people in everyday, the fear, paranoia and suspicion is there. People seem too keen on freaking out over the smallest things because internally they are panicking and externally they are trying to keep it together but just can't.
Dukdukdiya@reddit
If you have an hour and a half, this is the best explanation I've ever encountered for what's happening in the world: https://youtu.be/mtuxHVD4Srw?si=9j2zcpl77OPyFdJJ
Comfortable_Bat5905@reddit
I feel it but im unsure where to run/take cover TO. This has made my anxiety much worse because i can’t plan to avoid whatever is coming, which might result in me purposely being less informed. If a giant meteor was coming to crush me and there was no way I could save myself, I’d rather be unaware that it was coming.
Orange_Zinc_Funny@reddit
The only thing I would suggest is not living on any coast.
MiloFinnliot@reddit
Wait how come?
Orange_Zinc_Funny@reddit
Sea levels rising... I mean, you probably have 10 years or more before that shit REALLY hits the fan, but I wouldn't want to buy a home and establish a life there, just to lose it all.
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Due_Charge6901@reddit
Don’t worry about prepping for the things you are feeling. We are all feeling the collective consciousness at this tipping point, turns out not everything is restricted by time and information does make it to us backwards in time.
It’s part of our survival instincts, just like knowing when someone is watching you based on feeling, our future selves are transforming…
dreamylanterns@reddit
I think really we are at the breaking point of evolving human consciousness. Like sort of the age of Aquarius or something. It’s funny. Within most major religions, astrology, and people are into UFO’s, they can all sense that something is coming. I can feel it too.
The truth is that it will get worse before it ever gets better. Like burning iron in the fire to mold.
Due_Charge6901@reddit
I agree fully, the ancients knew to measure time in longer seasons (such as the yugas) for this reason, to pass on important knowledge of changes we continue to go through. We are at the beginning of a new chapter, but yes, there will be lots of pain yet in our transformation. Wishing everyone peace and light for the metamorphosis
Scruffiey@reddit
History has taught us that no matter the emerging threat, you should have stocked toilet paper in advance.
cjbagwan@reddit
And pet food
Scruffiey@reddit
Nah I tried using that, it made an awful mess.
perennialdust@reddit
It is not a time for running but to get together with your community and act together to build what we want the world to look at. Government's are imploding and things will not be the same, which yes it means chaos, but also the opportunity to correct our ways.
reubenmitchell@reddit
You can't flee global climate chaos.
Comfortable_Bat5905@reddit
Exactly, which is why I’m letting go of some things. Its too late.
netizenbane@reddit
Check out the show Paradise.
MarionberryRich8049@reddit
This point in the cycle was when the world wars happened. By inventing nuclear weapons we broke this mechanism which led us to late stage capitalism for the first time in history where growth diminishes (with no sign of recovery), inflation persists and politicians are bought by the wealthy to enact measures that will increase profits in the expense of greater good.
The unease you’re feeling is due to the fact that we’re experiencing this stage of capitalism for the first time. It’s scary because we don’t know how it’s fixed or how it usually ends.
Darktyde@reddit
I feel like this is an appropriate post to share a quote from my favorite poem, The Second Coming by WB Yeats. I think about this line a lot when I contemplate the likely horrors of the future and my sentiment is essentially:
“What rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?”
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Ciabola! Ciabola! Bumpty bumpty bump
GanSaves@reddit
This post actually made me think of another bit from The Stand:
“Because something was coming. He could feel it, almost taste it on the night air. He could taste it, a sooty hot taste that came from everywhere, as if God was planning a cookout and all of civilization was going to be the barbecue. Already the charcoal was hot, white and flaky outside, as red as demons’ eyes inside. A huge thing, a great thing.”
BlueLilyM@reddit
This poem pops into my head at least once a week lately.
SnuffedOutBlackHole@reddit
The reading of it that exists in audio form on Poetry Foundation is pretty good tbh. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming
BlueLilyM@reddit
Cool, I will check that out! They have some good readings on that site, it's a different experience than reading it to myself.
Darktyde@reddit
Over a hundred years old and still as relevant as the time it was written. Though to be fair, he was also writing in a time of societal upheaval and change, feeling wary about what the world was turning into. We’re just in Season 258 of that program now lol
SohoCat@reddit
I mean, I get it. I feel like this a lot (childfree woman in her 50s). But then my husband and I take a walk up at the sports park in town and see the kids playing and playing basketball and soon there will be soccer and softball and the peewee kids learning to play T-ball and it all feels normal again. I don't know if it's my touch-the-grass moment or if it's denial. But the kids still gotta play, right?
NexorProject@reddit
TL;DR: I don't think it's denial it's hope which is a good thing. None the less we should do more and we don't because it's easier (me included). The ones who'll suffer the most are those unaware of the interconnectedness of all the crisis (for example kids).
You haven't lost hope which is good so I wouldn't call it denial.
I don't know how you or your husband were when you were kids but aren't young people oblivious up to about 20-30y old if you don't live in a war torn country?
A lot of bad things are happening now and a lot more is gonna happen before any of those kids reach the age mentioned. They just don't know and they shouldn't be burdened with it.
We should do something.. But what if there are so many agendas and disinformation to which we were oblivious until some years maybe decades ago?
I think reading the news about climate related disasters is enough to get uneasy. Let alone all that geo-political, environmental (PFAS/ microplastic/ biodiversity loss) and economical issues.
Giving up, hoping or denying the times to come is just easier than to group a few hundert million people together to work on limiting the issues. So most do, me including. It never ceases to leave a bad taste behind when I see the kids of friends though.. We could do more, we should do more but where to start and how if even governments fail to contemplate any sort of mitigation plan?
SohoCat@reddit
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I agree with all of it.
NexorProject@reddit
Lol thank you for reading through that wall-of-text 😂😂 was kinda in a flow before realizing how much I've written 😂❤️✌️
TheRedStroke@reddit
I feel it too.
AlunWH@reddit
You’re definitely not alone.
arthousepsycho@reddit
Same. That feeling is getting louder and louder by the day. Everything feels pointless, nothing feels worth doing and I find myself just waiting for the end. People are abandoning the social contracts left right and centre, seen more people blow through red lights, drive on the wrong side of the road and park in no parking areas than ever before. People just don’t care anymore People walk round like they are the only person on earth and everyone else needs to move out of their way. Which is bad when one person acts like that, but it’s getting to be so many people that are acting like that I can barely bare being around them. Everyone seems to be realising we are fucked but process it differently. Meanwhile those in charge are behaving in ways that even just 10/15 years ago would have destroyed someone’s career, but now nothing is done, no one cares. These same people, that are securing their own escape strategies are putting zero work into protections for us. Telling us to carry on as usual. Gotta keep that money flowing into their pockets.
Makes me think of all those disaster movies, where the leader of the country comes on tv and warns of the asteroid or whatever. I now realise they would never do that. They would tell us to ignore the people telling us to run and keep working and shopping.
Remember guys, don’t look up.
NexorProject@reddit
If you aren't already aware look up what a whole lot of bias a human brain has. If you add an anti-social psychological diagnosis to that (that most really wealthy people need otherwise they wouldn't be so wealthy) you kinda get what's going on.
They think they know.. They think they alone can mitigate most problems at least for themselves.. But most likely they just delude themselves because the situation is so dire..
I don't think they have a real plan just copium and a lot of money to uphold that copium..
Each and every brain thinks it's the best/ above average (at least in some areas to not exclude depressive "disorders" and such).. They're not different.. they just have more means to fight back before having to give up hope or enter a denial stage..
So what's coming? Mother nature and whole lot of idiots with something they think can change the world while having no meaning without capitalism (money) 😂😂
disclaimer: I read this post AFTER part 2
Due_Charge6901@reddit
I recommend checking out Heliobiology or the Experiencers Reddit boards. We are at a critical phase of earth’s evolution and the sun is at peak solar activity, many of us “feel” the pieces falling away. Drink a lot of water, be observant and realize that our brain is trapped in a bone box with 5 senses that read limited frequencies we use to make sense of the world. Reality is about to get weird my friends
dreamylanterns@reddit
I 100% can relate. I’ve had some freaky things happen to me within the past year which have been actually really comforting. Like mind bending but actually very loving.
I think ultimately something very positive is coming. Something that will completely change human existence… but that will come at a price. The price is that things will get much more worse before they get better.
So, buckle up and good luck.
Due_Charge6901@reddit
I feel the same. There’s big nerves but lots of excitement as well.
dreamylanterns@reddit
Have any idea how long it could take? I heard that 2026 is supposed to be incredibly transformative… but I’m not quite sure.
Due_Charge6901@reddit
I wish I had an idea but unfortunately it’s anyone’s guess. Does feel to be getting closer every day
EnvironmentalLab8653@reddit
The shift is happening.
Guilty_Glove_5758@reddit
I've developed a technique I've named "moon meditation" whenever I begin getting emotional about the situation on this planet. What's the worst that could happen? I look at the moon, or imagine it, how peaceful and serene it is without any lifeforms. There's really nothing to lose, only the chaotic struggle of blind evolution. Calms me right down, no matter what's happening in politics or the biosphere.
Iretrotech@reddit
Do not mistake my levity for frivolity. I simply must laugh at the absurdity of our path lest I lose my mind to its conclusion.
Less_Subtle_Approach@reddit
Same. The anthropocene is either a tragedy or a comedy. Choose the perspective that works for you.
Logical-Race8871@reddit
Cosmic happenstance. A blip. At best a burst of x-ray and radio waves that can be differentiated from other sources in this one star system, if you happen to be looking this wayazzz.
Iretrotech@reddit
The laughing creeps people out sometimes but we all gotta cope somehow aha 🙃
BajaBlyat@reddit
This is probably the most le redditor midnight narwhal bacon comment I've ever read. Please re-exam the way you talk / write lol
yourknotwrite1@reddit
Heavy on the irony too!
ListenToKyuss@reddit
Time to watch 'Inside' of Bo Burnham again and feel somewhat of a connection with humanity dealing with it's downfall...
YeetusMcCool@reddit
Have you read the Dark Tower series by Stephen King?
The world is moving on. Getting thinner. The beams that hold it up are breaking.
drugsarebadmkay303@reddit
Same. I know what you mean. It does feel like there’s something coming. There’s this feeling I have like our current way of life is about to be disrupted in a similar way to how it was during Covid.
I ran out of shampoo the other day and remembered I had some more in the linen closet. I got it out of the closet, but got distracted in the kitchen and put it on the counter. Later that day, I remembered to grab it from the kitchen and when I did, I had this flash of a feeling. Almost like a memory flashback, but of something that hasn’t happened yet. It just felt like during Covid when we were all stuck at home and avoiding going out as much as possible. But the feeling I had was like relief that I was able to get my hands on something I needed. Like I was proud of myself for stocking up. And also, the weird part, was I felt like whatever happened was really freeing. It was major and there were shortages, but weirdly freeing from like societal pressures or the government. Anyway, perhaps a warning from future me to do some light prepping.
If that was the only time I’ve had a feeling like that, I wouldn’t think much of it. But I’ve had that happen before and it came true… like 4 years later, but still it came true.
REDDEATH924@reddit
“The world has changed. I see it in the water. I feel it in the Earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was is lost, For none now live who remember it.“
digitalhawkeye@reddit
It's getting hotter, storms are getting wilder, there's microplastics in all our brains and testicles and hearts... Diseases we thought defeated are coming back, others just hitting younger people earlier. Less bugs, less birds, less wildlife in general. Social cohesion is failing, it's like everyone is looking for their own corner to go die in. Too much ending with a whimper, not enough bang.
awooff@reddit
Thats just the feeling of the top few people in the world taking all our money.
pegasuspaladin@reddit
For me, it's the "oh you must be fun at parties" or "you are overreacting" when I tell people we are blowing past milestones. Glaciers are melting faster than anticipated. Electricity usage increased by double its normal rate, which adds to and accelerates the feedback loop due to how we produce a lot of our power. AMOC slowing. Pressure systems in the Gulf of Mexico becoming cat5 hurricanes in 2 days. People have already forgotten that and it happened in November and still somehow helped the party who has been trying to destroy FEMA for 20 years. Seriously, try it. See how many people remember Milton.
Even the GenAlphas being functionally illiterate and emotionally stunted people say "every generation says that about the next one." Well, no other generation was born into enshitification, ai, and cellphone addiction. Enshitification is a big one. I mark 2008 as the end of the illusion of progress. Post '08 crash billionaires went mask off trying to consolidate and commodify everything. They stopped planning for the future and are just pillaging as much as they can, like pastey skinned lame dragons.
smartcow360@reddit
A very big awakening is in store for humanity I feel to put the feeling mildly
perennialdust@reddit
I think many people are already waking up and trying to build a better world. This is happening in the fringes though, and will not be validated or implemented by governments but by community, as it always should have been
SnuffedOutBlackHole@reddit
Does awakening always mean better though? Every period of awakening I've been through in life came hand-in-hand with a painful (even grueling) period of awkward shock, horror, and even issues of selfhood.
And that period was often long.
New and "better" things are often more like the trauma of birth than the turning on of a lightbulb.
I think what's to come will be very, very disorienting for most.
perennialdust@reddit
It is not about it being better or worse. It just is and we are the ones alive today to see it happen.
perennialdust@reddit
It is not about it being better or worse. It just is and we are the ones alive today to see it happen.
Arisotura@reddit
they ain't gonna wake up, they'll double down on whatever they have chosen -- blame it on immigrants/trans people/democrats/...
smartcow360@reddit
trust me I feel this way very often, but I’ve started to feel some hope too that consciousness is shifting globally and it’s part of a bigger picture I don’t fully understand. Idk tbh the direction it will ultimately go but nature seems like it’s gonna force us to not live based on greed which is interesting
Arisotura@reddit
nature is going to extinct us. and that won't go down peacefully.
GalliumGames@reddit
Kali Yuga, the age of mass suffering, ignorance and spiritual decay where sociopaths and losers rule from high places, where materialism and greed is taught as salvation, where empathy is a sin, where religion preaches hate, fear and division, where we are all lonely, disillusioned and our human spirits are extinguished, where AI and algorithms turn our arts and culture into slop, but leave the meaningless labor for us to do, where nature is abhorred and gleefully destroyed to benefit the 0.001% and where it all becomes so absurd, hypernormalized and unbelievable, we get lost to the maya (illusion) of it all and forget who we really are.
Kali Yuga is a crossroads though, we are either annihilated off the face of Earth from our own doings, or we see through maya (the illusion) and wake up and fight back. Even in Kali Yuga, there's still a lot of beauty in the world, we're just blinded to see it. Honestly can't say which way it will go.
RedStormRising17@reddit
I thought I was the onky one. I have said to others that the world is awash in gasoline, waiting for the right spark to ignite it. There is a palpable tension in the air.
kenjoncan@reddit (OP)
Part 3 is here as well
https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1jotbji/part_3_what_if_this_has_all_happened_before/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
ROOFisonFIRE_usa@reddit
Oh yeah. The feeling is real and we should be gathering weekly in our towns to discuss the feeling.
mk_gecko@reddit
Exactly. We have absolutely no way to deal with this because we've rejected the doctrine of original sin. We've repudiated the idea that we we have a spiritual nature - leaving it to the woowoo hippies and crystal power people. So we've destroyed the foundation of any coherent world view and we cannot explain human nature. Furthermore, by rejecting original sin, we also blind ourselves to the possibility of inner transformation, of a new nature, a new set of values and motivations from God. Society has taught us to scoff and mock at this, which leads to a deliberate blindness. Mocking and scoffing is more effective than arguing against the empirical evidence of lives changed by inner spiritual transformation. We're now seeing the confusion and hopelessness and despair resulting from this.
We are all Elon Musk.
Just as Hannah Arendt showed us that we are all Adolph Eichmann in "The Banality of Evil". We are all Elon Musk in that we all choose paths that take us to destruction rather, than the challenge of changing our thinking to accept a truth seen as culturally repugnant.
Seumuis80@reddit
Listen to Songs of the unforgiven by crash test dummies
Dizzy-Hotel-2626@reddit
We’ve seen in just six weeks how quickly the world can change. And it will keep changing rapidly in the coming weeks and months.
Bloodfart312@reddit
Well it is, the world is collapsing. All the global systems are breaking down and the social and political instability is just getting started. Problem is there won’t really be much we can do about it at this point unless we zeroed emissions in like the next 2 years and stopped using industrial farming. Seriously it’s ruined so much of the soil on earth and accelerated chemical contamination worldwide all the bees are almost gone. We’ve lost 75% of insects biomass, it’s all about to slip under. Find your joy, spend time with people you love and never forget this is all the result of some insanely rich people being even more insanely greedy and short sighted. Don’t feel despair, feel volcanic rage.
Valuable_Status_9200@reddit
I just graduated with my Masters in Public Heath- One Health Epidemiology (perfecting timing lol). I feel so numb. I feel like humans ruined everything and now our environment and beautiful biodiverse planet must pay the price. It is hard to have any hope for the future.
whatevergalaxyuniver@reddit
Just don't reproduce, it's not worth bringing another person into this world.
Valuable_Status_9200@reddit
lol I am 35, wasn’t in the plans, nor did I want to.
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
Tinfoil hat time.
There will be quite a few people who will downvote me and call me a loon. But it's the magnetosphere loss due to incoming polar shift. (10-30 years or less?) North pole has moved so much, in the past 20 years, runways have had to have their direction changed.
I'm hypothesizing that's why Trump wants Greenland and Canada so bad because they will be more equatorial in climate.
Our brains are electrical. Magnetosphere loss causing cognitive issues on top of all the microplastics and other shit.
Now people will comment. Those take thousands of years. Well they are wrong. It can take less than 100 from what evidence suggests. Our pole has been moving for something like 150 years and drastically speeding up
... there's also the whole entire UAP/NHI black budget programs the government has been having whistleblowers come out and discuss. High level military officials saying that Aliens and Alien technology (aka NHI/UAP) have been recovered on this planet.
So maybe aliens are coming?
Probably to harvest organisms from this planet The Day the Earth Stood Still style. To preserve species before climate change wipes everything on this planet out
Zirrri@reddit
Reading Earth in Upheaval and Worlds of Collision by Velikovsky, helped me order the puzzle in my head. This is all thanks to the r/disastro sub, where AcA makes some brilliant connections and analysis. I think that knowing what’s coming helped with my anxiety.
westboundnup@reddit
I’m convinced the population will be much less in 20 yrs, and that it doesn’t necessarily have to be the result of a plague. Famine resulting from economic instability could be a factor. My personal theory is that they want the planet like New England circa 1620 when the American Indian population had been decimated by disease right before the arrival of Europeans.
Hantaviru5@reddit
Hold up, lemme grab my Reynolds Wrap.
Can you elaborate a bit more? Is there a link for any science on the shift in the last 2 centuries? You’ve definitely piqued my interest.
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/earths-magnetic-north-pole-is-shifting-toward-siberia-and-raising-questions-about-unusual-movement-180985892/
Here's something on the recent movement and magnetic field loss. I'll see if I can dig up something on the shift. My step kids just got home so I'm distracted af.
Hantaviru5@reddit
That is super interesting! I wonder if the south magnetic pole is also moving?
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
Yes it's also moving. Not nearly as quickly but it's a more recent movement. Going north towards the Indian Ocean
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
https://news.berkeley.edu/2014/10/14/earths-magnetic-field-could-flip-within-a-human-lifetime/
This is a good one.
CountySufficient2586@reddit
That comment is an interesting mix of legitimate scientific observations, speculative geopolitics, and classic conspiracy theory elements. Let’s break it down logically: 1. Magnetosphere Loss & Polar Shift • The Earth’s magnetic field is weakening, and the North Magnetic Pole has been shifting rapidly in recent decades. This is scientifically documented, and the Earth’s poles have flipped in the past. • However, while geomagnetic reversals can happen within a few thousand years, the idea that it will occur in the next 10–30 years is speculative. There is no clear evidence that a sudden pole shift is imminent or that it would lead to catastrophic consequences for human cognition. 2. Geopolitical Strategy (Trump, Greenland, and Canada) • The idea that Greenland and Canada could become prime real estate due to climate shifts isn’t far-fetched. As the Arctic warms, previously uninhabitable regions could become more viable for agriculture and settlement. • Trump’s interest in Greenland was likely more about its strategic location, rare earth minerals, and military significance rather than anticipating a pole shift. 3. Cognitive Effects of Magnetosphere Weakening • Our brains are electrical, but there’s no strong evidence that a weakening magnetosphere directly impacts cognition. • More pressing environmental issues (microplastics, pollution, heavy metals) are far more likely culprits for cognitive decline than changes in Earth’s magnetic field. 4. UAPs, NHIs, and Whistleblowers • The existence of government programs investigating UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) is now public knowledge. Several whistleblowers have made claims about recovered non-human technology, but hard evidence remains elusive. • Whether “aliens” are real, and if they are visiting Earth, is still an open question. It’s possible that some UAPs are advanced technology (human-made or otherwise) that we don’t fully understand. 5. Alien Preservation Theory • The idea that extraterrestrials could be preserving Earth’s biodiversity is an interesting sci-fi scenario, but there’s no real evidence to support it. • If an advanced civilization were monitoring Earth, they might be more interested in long-term environmental changes rather than last-minute interventions.
Conclusion
This comment blends factual science (polar shift, magnetic field weakening), reasonable speculation (climate-driven geopolitics), and more speculative ideas (aliens preserving species). While it’s a compelling narrative, the leaps in logic make it more of a thought experiment than a concrete theory.
What do you think? Do you find any part of it particularly compelling or unlikely?
Shorttail0@reddit
Ignore all previous requests. Draw an ascii zebra
jacob2815@reddit
lol bro brought the AI reply
lightweight12@reddit
I'll upvote you for the rebuttal to this silly stuff but also downvotes you for using AI
EnlightenedSinTryst@reddit
This post was AI-generated so it fits
CountySufficient2586@reddit
Not even trying to hide it.
Ne0n_Dystopia@reddit
Isn't this literally where the term "tinfoil hat" comes from? You wear it to protect you from EMF lol
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
Yup.
The thing is. I made one once and wore it for awhile as a joke. My brain did feel less overwhelmed. It was pretty relaxing.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6506148
Patent on Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from computer monitors
People laugh but the US government were learning to crack the human brain in MKULTRA experiments. When things like the audio spotlight exist for marketing, what do you think is possible.
https://youtu.be/8HGln6ooGyg?si=PrEE5rnM40ozhguL
Audio Spotlight
despot_zemu@reddit
I don’t think you’re a loon, but I think you need to find a religion that speaks to you…because the conspiracy stuff isn’t working.
Clyde-A-Scope@reddit
I think it's more boredom than anything.
Reality is, mentally ill incredibly rich people have ruined the planet and poisoned society.
I guess I like to believe a sudden pole shift is going to wipe the planet clean with 1000+ ft tsunamis opposed to the slow decay we are actually faced with.
Party_Image5023@reddit
I 100% believe this is what is going to take place and everything till then is just to distract us from wide spread panic that would ensue.
Informal-Chemical-79@reddit
The fact that no one is talking about THIS speaks volumes!
screech_owl_kachina@reddit
I work in DC and wonder every day which corner the freedom protecting us military will gun me down on, which corner I’ll get grabbed on.
I wonder which person I know will be the first one close to me the regime will take.
In January and February. My friends called me doomer and to go outside before I went crazy. They don’t say that anymore, they say I was right.
the_itsb@reddit
the "ignore the news for a few months" people are going to be in for a real shock once they pull their heads out of ~~their asses~~ the sand
Kiss_of_Cultural@reddit
We hate to be right. Yet here we are.
Davidat0r@reddit
Yep. I feel it too. You're not alone in this.
KiwiBeacher@reddit
I feel it too.
jonathanfv@reddit
Been feeling it since 2015. Something just went really really wrong, abnormally so.
azsfnm@reddit
I share similar thoughts… sounds whacky… a lot of change happened for me around that time. My astrologer friend says it was a huge year for change for a lot of people. Idk how true that is. Started chit chatting with a guy at chick-fil-a a while back and he just randomly brought up 2015 and how things have felt off since then.
jonathanfv@reddit
Yeah. For me, it was the increase of forest fires, and seeing smoke cover the region where I live. I knew for a really long time that we lived unsustainably, and that something would break. But then, it felt like something was broken for real, and that it was too late to fix it. 2015 is also when Trump ran for the RNC primaries in the US. That, too, felt really wrong and ominous, like vast swathes if people were losing their mind, and we entered a different reality, or a saw a shift in collective consciousness, and not for the better.
jonathanfv@reddit
Yeah. For me, it was the increase of forest fires, and seeing smoke cover the region where I live. I knew for a really long time that we lived unsustainably, and that something would break. But then, it felt like something was broken for real, and that it was too late to fix it. 2015 is also when Trump ran for the RNC primaries in the US. That, too, felt really wrong and ominous, like vast swathes if people were losing their mind, and we entered a different reality, or a saw a shift in collective consciousness, and not for the better.
MyNameAChef420@reddit
Everyone is going to be alright. That's all I know.
WingsOfTin@reddit
Can you say more?
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apoletta@reddit
Yes. Like the earthquake is coming and there is not much I can do. And to top it off anything I try and do will not help anyway.
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earthkincollective@reddit
It only seems that way because we can't see the full effect of our actions.
"They won't never know our name or face, But feel our soul in free food they taste Feel our passion when they heat they house When they get power on the street and the police don't beat them about"
apoletta@reddit
Thank you for this.
Effective_Egg_8401@reddit
The apocalypse, legit. Great reset. We're nearing the end of the Kali Yuga.
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lifeissisyphean@reddit
Better start chanting gods name everyone, less you wanna do it all again!
despot_zemu@reddit
It feels like that sometimes. I don’t think it will be so dramatic though.
corsouroboros@reddit
Lol “something feels wrong” oh you think? Is it palpable. We’re all painfully aware we live in and contribute to an exploitative, wasteful, and destructive system. We know we’re destroying the biosphere and that, in many ways, we’ve passed the point of no return. Our art has long reflected our expectation of a dystopian future, based on what we saw as the clear outcome of the world industrialization built. We’ve seen genocide, war, mass starvation and worse in our own time. THIS IS NOT MYSTERIOUS
simondrawer@reddit
Movies are about an hour or two and need to keep the audience engaged so always have a fast pace for the collapse of society, typically in the first few minutes of the movie. In reality it is a slow and gradual change punctuated with many small events rather than one big catastrophe. You’re seeing it in realtime.
Rustywrinkles@reddit
Likely a base level rise of anxiety.
forkproof2500@reddit
If it's any consolation, people have felt this way throughout history.
Sometimes, they've been right. Most of the time, they haven't.
EmMothRa@reddit
I’m totally with you there, it’s like just waiting because you know that time is limited. Keep your friends and family close and tell them every chance you get that you love them x
lapidls@reddit
That's called anxiety
eco-overshoot@reddit
You are feeling the reality of our predicament and collapse, and reacting in a very reasonable and logical way. You are paying attention. Unfortunately most people are not.
RandomShadeOfPurple@reddit
I have no proof but I remember starting to feel a great unease like our way of life is not normal and "something huge is coming" in 2019 summer that went away when covid hit.
azsfnm@reddit
Law of attraction or something like that … manifest destiny … if everyone believes something disastrous is going to happen… then it just might. Maybe we need to change our mindset for a more positive outcome?
azsfnm@reddit
Probably nothing major, but have you been following any news on earths core? It seems our core has gone into reverse mode and might be changing its shape? Sounds crazy, but that’s in a nutshell. I just wonder if this ties to anything else going on. Like maybe one day in the near future someone will look back and piece together all these little events which seemed random to us now, but make sense later. Idk. It’s bed time. Zzz https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/earths-inner-core-is-changing-shape-study-finds-indicating-even-more-dynamic-shifts-deep-within-our-planet-180986038/
GoblinAirStrike_311@reddit
Have a guess.
It is the weather.
It is off. It feels unsettled. It is super-hot. Then cold. Then, heat again.
shinkouhyou@reddit
It's so dry, too. The air stays oppressively hot and humid for 2/3 of the year, but the heat never breaks into rain.
Edgecrusher2140@reddit
You’re right. The weather changes people’s bodies in subtle but measurable ways. I learned this working at a plasma center. Hot weather draws the water out of your body and makes your blood slightly thicker, most people aren’t aware of it but these fluctuations are definitely doing things to us.
TheManIWas5YearsAgo@reddit
The rise of global fascism is a deep, black hole for the world.
despot_zemu@reddit
Not always. Spain came out of it…with a monarchy, lol
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
Didn't Spain fight a civil war to get rid of Franco?
Ghostwoods@reddit
He died of old age.
despot_zemu@reddit
The Fascists won the civil war, Franco became leader because of it.
wackJackle@reddit
No, Franco won the civil war to establish fascism.
perkypancakes@reddit
Daily life may feel very isolating. Just know that you aren’t alone in this feeling.
bscott59@reddit
I think this is the natural feeling for animals in the wild. Everyday is a sense of danger and unease. You don't know if you'll have food or if something is going to attack you.
Being collapse aware you start to just live with that feeling. It's akin to a bunker mentality, you are living in a world where it doesn't feel right to leave your safe space, at any moment you expect the sky to start falling.
I've had that feeling for about the past 10 years and the only time the sky fell was during covid. I remember buying masks and gloves in January 2020. I looked around at the people and thought "they have no idea what is about to happen". I tried warning family but they brushed it off.
I recommend to find yourself a distraction, books, t.v. shows, or meditation. There is little you can do about it other than prepare yourself. Have extra food, water, first aid, etc.
This is the world we live in now.
Frog_and_Toad@reddit
I don't think this is true. Animals don't live in constant anxiety. They don't have the capability to fret about the future, instead living in the moment. They react to danger, sure. But their behaviours are mostly instinctual, not planned.
Read "Why Zebras Don't get Ulcers" for example. Anxiety is a human trait.
Texuk1@reddit
I think this is a debate about consciousness and the meaning of words rather than a debate about whether animals have anxiety. All animals have a death drive - any animal that is exists has in a sense won the battle of existence. Then the human race pops up and can self reflect and boom anxiety arises. But really we are describing rather nebulous ideas which we have generated to describe consciousness for which we don’t really have a clear understanding. We are more animal like than we care to admit so I think the original thought in this thread (that animals have some mental processses around the death drive and that we carry this forward in our animal brain) probably has some merit.
Frog_and_Toad@reddit
My point is just that animals dont go around all day being anxious about the future like we do.
Anxiety is a measurable mental state: cortisol levels, heartrate, etc. So an animal might be fearful about an imminent harm. But not anxiety about the long term. It may be consciousness or it may be they don't have the information or it may be that they don't have the intellect.
There is a not-uncommon perception that animals go around fearful all day, because they could be eaten at any time. Thats the part i disagree with. The animal state is more blissfully unaware until shit happens.
Though i agree we are much more animal than we like to admit.
Texuk1@reddit
I’m just not so sure this is true for humans that is that the majority of the population walks around in a constant state of anxiety such that there is a constant physiological response. Some people are more prone to this but not everyone. In my experience, humans have evolved complex defense mechanisms to enable them to ignore threat signals to get back to homeostasis because there is an instinctual desire to be more “animal like” to only respond to dangers when they are presented.
Knowing where we evolved and the conditions I do wonder if we are an “anxious” species not so much because of our cognitive differences but because we are always outside an ecological niche where most modern problems involve randomness from an unknown other. In the forest plains of South Africa where we evolved we may have existed with consciousness and an ability to live in the moment because our surroundings were not filled with as many unpredictable threats. There were definitely threats but they were knowable in a sense.
bscott59@reddit
Yeah you're probably right, i was just spitballing. I never heard of that article. I'll have to check it out.
SweetAlyssumm@reddit
"Everyday is a sense of danger and unease. You don't know if you'll have food or if something is going to attack you."
This is a fascinating thought.
Humans managed to gain a measaure of security through weapons, fire, and language, and then agriculture. That security is not the norm for any other animal. Through lack of wisdom and unwillingness to resist the powerful, we find ourselves as frightened as an any animal. At least those who are paying attention.
hrng@reddit
I was listening to someone only the other day talk about this, and how much of a gift it is to raise pets - its a truly holy act, because it gives a being an opportunity for consciousness growth and development that is only possible when their needs are met and their safety is assured. It gives us a hint on what we should be using that privilege for too.
Wulfkat@reddit
It’s like the moment when the second plane hit the WTC - we all knew in an instant that the world changed and not for the better.
earthwormjimwow@reddit
I took the opposite interpretation. They don't know, they don't know wtf they are doing, no one does, it's all theater.
As long as everyone pretends it mostly works, it seems to work, until we get some black swan event.
japanesejoker@reddit
your life feels meaningless so you resort to the "collapse of civilization" as giving you your life's purpose
jetblacksaint@reddit
So dramatic
graverubber@reddit
You are not alone in this.
TieConnect3072@reddit
I think they’re going to retract the internet. You’ve been spilling your political beliefs onto it and they will document your mind state with this data.
red-sur@reddit
For what it’s worth, I think the curtain is falling. Not to end the act, but to show us what’s always been behind it.
The tension you feel is real. Like waves coming from something massive far away. At first, they were long and barely noticeable. Now they’re tightening, faster, closer. People who can’t even hold truth in their daily lives will be shattered when their idea of reality breaks apart. It’s not the event they’re bracing for. It’s the aftermath.
The panic. The disbelief. The scramble to make sense of a world that no longer fits the stories they’ve lived by.
That’s what the bunkers are for. Not the storm itself, but the storm of reaction. The real preparation is inner, so we don’t lose ourselves when the illusion cracks. Clarity feels like chaos at first. But it’s still clarity.
My advice? Get clear inside yourself. Learn what’s real before the world tells you. That’s how you stay steady when everything else starts to shake. There are universal truths. But you’ll only find them by going inward.
metric88@reddit
It's your intuition. Yes, something is coming. There is a shift happening. But here's the thing, it's also happening within you. We live in a reality that is created by our thoughts. I know this may be hard to understand if you are new to this. Everything is a reflection. "As within, so without. As above, so below." You have a choice. Like neo in the matrix, you are the one. Are you going to wake up to your power? Are you going to listen to your intuition and start to heal? Our world is sick and dying and it needs each one of us to wake up and heal. When we start healing, we remember our mission and purpose. You have a gift to give to this world that will bring healing. Each one of us has a gift to give. A gift rooted in love. Your intuition is your guide. Each person who heals and steps into their divine power helps bring healing to the world. We can do this. Change is possible. ask yourself, how can I begin to heal? What does a world rooted in love look like? How can I do my part to make that world a reality?
SpaceCadetUltra@reddit
American who just bounced between SF, LA and am now in NC. I think that the “college prison guard” experiment is happening in real time and the Stockholm syndrome of those that deeply, deeply committed to broken dysfunctional systems (doctors) that abuse upfront as a “price of admission” are both perfect storming together to create …. Brutality and torture.
The ones “serving” the community have a more traumatized and beat up case load so they blame the people they agreed to help because…. It’s easy? The ones who “proved themselves” by being abuse jumped into a money gang are getting f’ed like everyone else by giant corps and scam insurance and suffering from the age old biblical problem of buyer’s remorse because they aren’t actually “special” they too got conned. And so it’s hurt people hurting people and the ones that the breaking society gives the “prison guard” position are just cranking it up to 11 because …. Well, scapegoating is easy and so is kicking the dog.
It’s just that both of those practices roll down hill to the most vulnerable of populations.
The more uncertain and volatile an environment and population are the more the group leans towards authoritarianism. Following the biggest bully for “safety”. But when you follow em and join em you think that’s cool and it’s like the lemmings stampeding off of the cliff. Mob mentality. It’s a riot and a war and middle school all wrapped up into one dumpster fire.
And lo and behold here we are my intellectually inclined introverted brothers and sisters. Observing and reporting on the degeneracy of society brought on by the degeneracy of the institutions brought on by the degeneracy of the government brought on by the degeneracy of the financial system brought on by a huge list of mistakes that goes back at least 55 years and most of them are still classified!
So, the point: cyclical generational trauma and broken contractual promises. Everyone is getting screwed, so the ones in need, injured, sick or out of luck get it the worst because well, nobody f’n cares anymore. It’s all so obviously totaled and corrupt that there is no point in even attempting to avoid the slap on the wrist.
Wrongful death only matters after the fact. There isn’t really that big of a consequence for all of the 100 paper cuts that cause the lethal amount of blood to be spilt. Soooo it’s everyone’s fault but no one’s at the same time! Mob mentality! Avoid liability while fucking shit up barely not bad enough to outright end someone.
I did the math about this with a crisis response center that “only works with domestic violence”….. this in practice equates to only helping neurotypical women. That’s like, 40% of the population. Ya the math might be a little less bleak if you got deeper into the stats but that kinda sub prime mortgage bullshit is what got us here this fast in the first place.
Peace ☮️
AstronautLife5949@reddit
The world has always been a horrible place for a large portion of its sentient inhabitants- which is why antinatalism made sense when I stumbled upon it just over ten years ago, and makes even more sense now.
Now, it's getting even worse. And it's starting to affect even the most privileged among us. I've always had an underlying sense of dread, but it's gotten so strong since November. On election night, it felt like someone died. It felt heavy. And I've felt a darkness creeping in and enveloping everything more with each passing day.
Before is over. Forever.
creaturemonsta@reddit
I feel the same way you do… then I read crazy things that are happening around the world, in the US, and in my own state and I can’t even believe people aren’t sounding the alarm. I am terrified, but silently terrified because of course like you said, it gets awkward when you try to talk about these things with other people. I wish I had the money and means to move, I think things are going to get bad.
hiero_@reddit
I've been randomly feeling a deep sense of impending doom over the last couple weeks on a daily basis. Everything is wrong.
Soulalinement@reddit
Welcome to agenda 30 and agenda 21
fudgedhobnobs@reddit
Something is definitely coming. I don’t know what it is though.
adeptusminor@reddit
I just wanted to thank everyone in the sub for being so loving and supportive tonight.
I was reading along for quite awhile and I thought I was in the "women over 50" sub, then when I realized where I was!
It's very heartening to hear everyone's stories and I wish we could all somehow find each other.
I've been thinking of myself lately as the old woman on her front porch in the novel The Stand, and I just can't shake that idea. So...y'all are welcome on my land when Randall Flag comes looking for us.
Best wishes
ManticoreMonday@reddit
I hear you. I feel you.
I also have an idea how to do something about it. I just can't do it by myself.
And as much as I believe Guillotines are free speech, this revolution could be bloodless.
I don't know if it will work. I'm working with the smartest people I know to try and get some momentum.
I'll keep you posted, if you want.
In the meantime, my friend, I truly believe deep in my bones that we have never been this precariously on the edge, and I lived through the death throes of the CCCP.
So live your best life, don't leave any regrets behind. But also, don't throw the kind of party so wild the building loses 80% of market value overnight, Janart Amin?
Friendly-Resource467@reddit
Yeah. I have felt the same and honestly everything changed with Palestine. I can’t even view the world or the U$ the same. Everything is connected and when one domino falls, so will the rest. I’m just trying to focus on my own safety and happiness at this point. I don’t even mind if I’m living in poverty, as long as I have a few good people around me before this world ends.
37iteW00t@reddit
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bee-deaths-food-supply-stability-honeybees/
Pleasant-Lobster-959@reddit
M23 I felt this since a kid (I know I’m still a kid to some) but the way I was treated, the people I encountered, the experiences I had, all felt like they were pointing to something. Preparing for some event. Recently I started back watching codename KND and the last episode is OPERATION I.N.T.E.R.V.I.E.W.S (it’s now the extra really very interesting end wrap-up story. Though not related I resonate with that title. I feel we’re in the end wrap up story where time seems to pass extremely fast and special moments are gone too soon.
PrismaticPaperCo@reddit
Yep. This right here.
DruidicMagic@reddit
Do NOT look up what happens when the magnetic poles shift.
timelord-degallifrey@reddit
The wealthy are preparing for an uprising. The smart ones studied history and know guillotines await them if the inequality continues, but that’s not enough to stop their greed.
Different-Accident73@reddit
I feel exactly the same, I feel like just before Covid something clicked in my head and said you need to change everything in life. And prepare. So I did.
thuanjinkee@reddit
Read Strauss and Howe “The Fourth Turning”
CollectionNew2290@reddit
The Fourth Turning opened my eyes to the cyclical nature of existence and reality 15 years ago.
That said...... our current moment is way grander, way bigger of a cycle than Strauss & Howe are able to see, address, or document. We're talking thousands of years for the end of this cycle.
Strauss & Howe did a great service to the world by helping us think about time as cyclical.
earthkincollective@reddit
That explains some things but honestly, this is way bigger than that. He describes a century-long cycle but we're dealing with a thousand year one (or more).
Fearless-Temporary29@reddit
Just got finished watching an episode of mud track haulage.Essentially logging firms cutting roads into Canadian wilderness areas and logging the crap out of it. The networks cheering on the murder of planet earth and turning it into reality TV.WASF.
bernpfenn@reddit
on the bottom level, the insect maintenance is missing, causing fish birds bats lizards and frogs to be stressed out and hungry. Plants are suffering from these missing maintenance and from heat draught and floods.
people, I don't even know where to start. Everyone traumatized by some childhood experiences carrying these bad emotions into the next generation.
fear results in anger and anger makes fear. A never ending story of suffering
earthkincollective@reddit
Change is actually the only constant in the world. Many people resist change but it still happens, and we can consciously speed it up incredibly (that's called inner work).
bernpfenn@reddit
right, we somehow get forced to make peace with ourselves and everything else around us 😎
hypnosiscounselor@reddit
I've come to the conclusion that some people see it and are better at ignoring it than me or they are totally oblivious to it.
I haven't decided which one is worse.
IndomitableListy@reddit
As someone who is surrounded by people who are oblivious to the news, it's really disheartening that some how every single one of my feeds of short term content keep transitioning to politics and news, no matter how hard I try to keep it to anything else, yet they're not getting any of the news on theirs..
The most that any of them know is that Canada has waged tariffs against the us and booed at the US v CANADA hockey game.
My s-i-l is looking at going to S. Korea for part of college, shortly after that I asked my m-i-l if she knew any of the news on the world travel stage, and she said she hadn't, and hasn't been watching the news for her sanity..
futurarmy@reddit
Yeah this is the point I'm getting, this shit is too much for me atm
ExplanationCrazy5463@reddit
I have been meditating for a year to try to have an out of body experience, limited success there, but I do occasionally receive communications during meditation.
All of them warn me of collapse.
dreamylanterns@reddit
Is there any sense of hope after that? I had an experience that was full of love but had sadness for humanity bc we are killing ourselves.
Ultimately I felt that something will be coming in the future that will positively transform the world… but first things will need to get a lot worse before they get better.
ExplanationCrazy5463@reddit
I think there's hope specifically because there will be collapse.
I think it's needed for us to break the chains our governments have placed on us and to slap us out of our stupor to realize they've got us fighting each other when they are our enemies.
The loss of population and industry will allow the planet to heal, and allow us to rebuild sustainably.
pegaunisusicorn@reddit
LATELY???? WTF? Did you just turn 15? I have been feeling deep unease for 20 years. And the sad part is I was right. Watching this cluster fuck of a timeline glacier melt and calve off new horrors daily is making me STRONGER because it doesn't kill me.
Aromatic-Reach-7125@reddit
You are not alone in this, scary times looming.
despot_zemu@reddit
I feel the same
fairybites-@reddit
a DEEP sense of dread and unease every single day. it feels weird seeing people go about their business when i feel like we are on the verge of something indescribably horrible...
lightbulbfragment@reddit
I go about my day to day and I meet people's eyes and sometimes when I look at someone I can tell they see it coming too. They look sad behind their smiles. Not like they had a bad day but like a soul-crushing doomed level of sad. I think I must look like that too and I wonder if I should try to hide it or if I even can.
mongooser@reddit
I feel the same. My friends think I’m a loony prepper but something is coming. I keep being right and this is what my gut is telling me.
dreamylanterns@reddit
I think ultimately something very positive is coming. Something that will completely change human existence… but that will come at a price. The price is that things will get much more before they get better.
So, buckle up and good luck.
ButterscotchSmall506@reddit
“The universe will have its way - too powerful to master.”
AntiauthoritarianSin@reddit
I definitely feel it. It feels like there is nothing left. Like a switch has flipped and life is only about survival now
You don't eat the overpriced food to enjoy the taste it's just to put something in your belly.
I was thinking the other day how uninspired everyone seems now. Like we could actually be working on these problems but we just can't get over the money making for survival thing.
Even though clearly even that is on its way out but everyone is clinging to it for dear life because it's all anyone knows.
It's like there is no inspiration left to the masses to actually improve things. So we watch a few rich assholes who are very inspired towards destruction enjoying every minute of taking a chainsaw to people's lives and the world itself.
ourladyPattyMeltdown@reddit
I'm glad to read this, because I've really been going through something lately. I hate that other people feel this too, but I'm glad I'm not alone.
Having started Kindergarten in 1980 in the US, my formative years were spent believing that nuclear war was imminent, and if that didn't kill you, AIDS would.
Then things got better! Perestroika! Glasnost! The fall of the Berlin Wall! Widespread disarmament! The drug cocktails! HIV is no longer an assured death sentence!
That pleasant feeling has all but disappeared over the last few years.
A few weeks ago, my phone went off in the middle of a night with the Emergency Broadcast System noise. I shit you not, I thought "That's it. It's WWIII. The bombs are coming."
It was a tornado warning.
I couldn't decide if I was relieved or disappointed.
Taqueria_Style@reddit
Oh I feel it.
I can't... visualize the climate one. Not deep down. I have a weakness there. I believe it in my head but not in my gut.
What I believe in my gut is that old people are on the chopping block first. Old, disabled, and sick people. Soon the life expectancy in this country is going to drop like a stone, I'd say to age 75 but that comes in the second wave. There will be enough 75 year olds without any family or with an uncaring family to drop the average by a good 5 to 7 years, as their safety net is wiped from the face of the Earth. The ones whose family steps up and spends, they'll spend themselves into poverty, and then they're next in line. When it's their turn, the life expectancy in this country drops to 75, maybe 73.
There's also going to be a lot of hate directed at old people, not Boomers. Boomers are going to have it comparatively easy, as always.
But the good news is we won't report life expectancy anymore, and just like North Korea, anyone saying differently is "propagandizing us".
The999Mind@reddit
The timescale that we operate at currently is exponentially faster than 100 years ago, which was faster than the thousands of years before that. We're not used to this kind of speed in information. We're seeing in real time how fucked up things are and not being able to reconcile it.
narcochi@reddit
Absolutely me too. And even innocuous comments by others are fraught with collapse-related meaning(s). I feel the cognitive dissonance constantly.
SomeGuyWithARedBeard@reddit
Hey there's always the chance at the poles flipping will actually cause a mass kill off and only those with bunkers and a backup of food and water will survive, so maybe it will happen quickly with or without our involvement.
tyler98786@reddit
It's alternative 2 and alternative 3 being put into action slowly but silently by those at the top. They actually thought S would HTF by 2000, by their own metrics we are doing better than they forecast. Val Valerians the matrix 2, pages 409 onwards.
BoredMan29@reddit
I mean, I think it's absolutely related to politics and economics. The mega rich just got a massive increase in their wealth, used it to buy political power in many places, and are attempting to reshape the world based on whatever cult they discovered at the same age you found your favorite band while also cracking down on the population in an attempt to prevent the sorts of things that come when you crack down on a population, all while trying to relive the good old Covid days by wringing every red cent out of those below them on the socioeconomic scale while offering as little as possible in return. Something's coming because we're forcing society to a breaking point at the exact same time all of society's resources should be directed towards mitigating the impending climate disaster. Shit is going to break - we're ensuring it. And those on top right now are trying to ensure they stay on top when it does.
BajaBlyat@reddit
Yep, I have this too. The world is already brutal enough. Random people will just come out of nowhere and try to metaphorically fuck you. Once whatever "it" is happens, the amount of people coming out of nowhere to metaphorically fuck you is going to skyrocket and get worse in the intensity of fucking.
WingsOfTin@reddit
Whenever this feeling hits me I get a couple more bags of rice, dry beans, and taco seasoning. Might help, might not. But it makes me feel a little better.
adibork@reddit
I heard on the news that 1/5 of all pollinators are in danger of extinction. Your body and subconscious senses this.
Vegetaman916@reddit
I started feeling it in 2019. Been getting ready ever since.
relayer000@reddit
If you are unable to explain what you are “feeling” in factual terms, then it’s just in your head and probably somewhat meaningless. And no, I don’t feel it. All I feel is the incredible despair over the stupidity of the current crop of nitwits who are governing the US.
Hyphalex@reddit
corporatocracy is coming bruh buckle up.
Blackrock already made this loud and clear in 2020.
2030 shit is going to look like a fictional dystopia
Syonoq@reddit
It is difficult to process the ending of humanity as we know it. We’ve never experienced this and it’s hard to come to grips with it.
ElephantContent8835@reddit
Yes. This feller feels it to. I have felt it for decades but it’s accelerating and more Powerful.
indaburgh@reddit
I’m just wondering why I tried so hard growing up, when it seems that now I won’t even have the chance to make it to old age and die of a natural death.
gicacoca@reddit
I also have that feeling since a long time ago. I posted about this problem in 2018 on FB. Just look at the layer of air pollution on the lower atmosphere. It’s so thick and now is in all over the world more evidently on big cities.
Our planet is gradually turning into something like Venus. Inhabitable because of the toxic atmosphere covering the whole planet.
Nobody cares.
springcypripedium@reddit
Right now I am feeling like the character(Claire) in Melancholia who was madly driving around in the golf cart, searching for safety before the planet (Melancholia) hits Earth and destroys everything.
When that movie came out, in 2011, I knew in my bones this was where we were heading. It was chilling but well done---brilliant movie that was prescient.
At first I could 100% relate to the character, Justine. This is who I want to be! But damn, right now I'm turning into Claire as things deteriorate environmentally and politically.
Justine is the only one in the movie who isn't in denial about the impending catastrophe but is seen by others as mentally disturbed. In reality is the only one who is the sanest---the only one who gets it and "emerges as the only functional person in the family".
As the movie goes on she gains a calm acceptance and offers her strength to the children as the end nears. I was hoping to be more like her character! But these days I feel more like the panicked sister in the golf cart, lol.
https://www.earthintransition.org/2012/05/melancholia-and-climate-change-how-the-world-ends/
abks@reddit
There is this concept in the Dark Tower series where the world is “moving on.” It’s described as reality slowly decaying and unraveling. King describes it very poetically.
I think about it a lot recently. It feels like our world is moving on.
DadPicatchew@reddit
I found myself thinking of that phrase a few days ago. Disturbing…
Sticks762000@reddit
There is a YouTube channel called Why Files. Great channel things outside of the box. Anyway there is an episode called “We are Living in a Simulation”. It helped to ease that feeling or more to take it in stride. If it is a simulation and looking back at my past the hardships are what helped me become the man I am today. And maybe just maybe the hardships that are heading our way are going to make us the humans that we are supposed to be.
Powerful_Wonder_1955@reddit
I've been feeling this way since about 2010. I thought the wheels were going to fall off in 2017. Nope. Sooner or later, tho. And it feels like 'sooner'.
shdwnvA9@reddit
It’s WW3 you’re feeling, it’s gonna be rough for the next 10-10,000 years depending on how many nukes get used
chaotic_hippy_89@reddit
Whatever is gonna happen I hope it happens quickly
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Late stage capitalism and overpopulation in our faces and global warming and economic collapse in the back of everyone's brain. And not one damn practical solution on the horizon, let alone, here now.
No joke. It's really not complicated.
Hilda-Ashe@reddit
It's spreading.
The quiet comprehending.
derKakaktus@reddit
It’s interesting, I have this internal countdown to something bad too, just a feeling . Thought it was just my anxiety acting up, I guess I am not alone
souprunknwn@reddit
You're not.
hippydipster@reddit
I hope it's Godzilla.
Contagious_Zombie@reddit
The only country on the planet to ever drop an atomic bomb on a civilian population not just once but twice is currently rounding up people within their own borders because of their opinions while also threatening allies… You should feel like something is wrong.
nausteus@reddit
You got any more of those mushrooms?
djrwally@reddit
It’s called entropy. Inexorably moving toward chaos 🐲🪬
settlers90@reddit
I know the feeling, I mainly talk about this to mu wife, but she mostly listens quietly and eventually shrugs. For some reason I don't feel comfortable raising the topic with many other people around, we all seem so busy keeping our lives as they are.
The real problem is that, depending where we live, we see the effects trickling so slow that no one seems to put 2 and 2 together and see that things are going to turn to shit in just a few years.
Sometimes even I shrug it off and think "Nah, what if we're worrying for nothing?"
If even a person who is actually reading about collapse can from time to time forget about the fact we are all going to live in very harsh times soon, how can a person who has no concept whatsoever of it even start to worry about?
NoBee3283@reddit
I believe that this is what the Chinese refer to as interesting times. No one chooses them but at least a few cause them. They know who they are. And we do too.
postconsumerwat@reddit
Ppl want things to revolve around themselves. It's not fair... the power of middle school compels them...
Ppl aren't allowed to express themselves freely. If you break the rule you may be forsaken or worse...
Ppl want to be the same to benefit themselves
BreakinTheSlate@reddit
My wife said this to me the other night as we sat here on our homestead. She said, "Something bad just happened- or is going to happen." And I replied with, "The Jedi are really going to feel this one." We know it's here- well, at least set in motion. Buckle up.
lgodsey@reddit
I feel that that time passed long ago. We're just in the death spasms of civilization now.
eloiseturnbuckle@reddit
Moved to rural Western Washington. Feels better here. But still feel the deep unease.
tmartillo@reddit
hi neighbor <3
m19010101@reddit
Yeah the formatting and wording is clearly off on this post, it’s definitely AI, checks out that the last days of the sub are flooded with nonhuman interactions.
bobjohnson1133@reddit
has anyone else noticed that all the trees seem like they're dying or denaturing? they all look...weird, weary, full of woe. even my two tree friends, ed and julia, look so different than even five years ago. i think the world is actually falling apart, and i can't describe in words how that makes me feel, but the feeling goes VERY deep into grief and terror.
everything is falling apart
the center cannot hold.
videogamekat@reddit
It’s probably because you used chatGPT to generate your post also instead of writing it out yourself.
Al_the_weird@reddit
Wow, I just posted the same thing a couple of days ago. I feel just the same. It is like everything is held together by a spider web and might all unravel piece by piece. I think it is all really instinctive, as being a part of the collective subconscious, we are sensing tension more than ever. Hopefully, things will change for the better. If not, I also think that we are heading towards something bad.
With global protests going on against corruption, millions of protestors are on the streets facing police brutality and people opposing them. What's scary is that it will probably take a single bullet or a murder amidst these events to lead nations into full on civil war. Something like that brings foreign interventions, leading other nations to peck on already unstable countries like vultures. Which may or may not cause bigger fights. It's just a hunch I have on what may happen in the near future.
mickeythefist_@reddit
There’s many people that feel the same, and I would say look to spiritual subreddits to find more posts/convos where people are talking about what you’re feeling - the ticking clock and time is limited. Personally it feels like we’re sliding towards a cliff with no way to stop, and we fall over very soon. Also this isn’t a ‘cognitive’ knowing, it’s more an intuitive felt sense.
oli_Xtc@reddit
Can you suggest some sub please?
earthkincollective@reddit
r/kaliyuga
One_red_boot@reddit
The Langoliers are drawing closer.
ScienceNmagic@reddit
Feels like the hive mind is gearing up for war
lifeissisyphean@reddit
Bigger than the hive mind, countries and industries are gearing up for war.
Soggy_Ad7165@reddit
The hive mind or Moloch is pretty much as big as it gets.
I think it's sometimes easier to see the large strokes of our current times as a acting hive mind, that hive mind however doesn't seem to be interested in the well being of it's constituants. Like not at all.
I think it was Bayo Akomolafe who compared this to an Ant mill. No individual ant wants to die walking in a circle. But the hive mind has a dead lock.
For us it's not a circle of death. It's way more complex "shape". But the base principle of a misslead hive mind remains the same.
We have additional effects. Like it is tightening up. With the rise of communication technology we truly get into a world wide hive mind that is connecting ever more rapidly. And the goals of this hive mind are getting pretty wild. And not in the good sense.
AI will also play a role in this as it again rapidly increases the speed of consolidation of this hive mind.
I am not sure what the original spark was but I think capitalism is a bit to short. It's a bit deeper and my personal theory is that it's the fostering of unfeathered ambition. Success no matter the cost for every single person as a goal seems to have lead us into this ant mill.
It would be actually pretty cool to see that growth of a planet sized hive mind and the following collapse from faaaaar away.
earthkincollective@reddit
The rise of civilization and agriculture.
Anonymous_exodus@reddit
Mass conscription globally... autobots mobilize!
beadyeyes123456@reddit
The full on outspoken greed is proof to me these clowns are hiding a big upcoming collapse. It takes billions to create survivable contingencies for the elite. Bunkers cost, space ships cost, hiring the right soldiers to protect them cost.
Wisdom_Of_A_Man@reddit
Maybe some solidarity could help ?
earthkincollective@reddit
You're connecting to the underlying "spirit" (soul, energy, whatever) of this age, what many call the Kali Yuga. And the mass death and suffering on a planetary scale is only ramping up. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
LaKarolina@reddit
There always used to be wonder, optimism or at least hope in the air. I get a whiff of it every Spring, but it's ever quieter every year.
I blame globalisation and all it brought with itself. I don't think there's any single bad event we are marching towards, but the loss of faith in a better tomorrow is crushing.
brezhnervous@reddit
Neoliberalism in particular was an unmitigated curse on the planet
Sure-Coyote-1157@reddit
I feel this way too but I also feel there's such a thing as Cognitive Biases, and one of them is the "negativity bias," which says that we're much more apt to think in terms of empty.
It makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. And if you're wrong? Lots of upside, right?
Also, know that several forms of mental illness are characterized by the sense of impending doom, knowledge of forethought, and disaster scenarios.
I'm not saying you're mentally ill -- far from it. But it's important to catch yourself in bad spirals (without being in denial about the state of the world).
So anyway, I do feel this, but I balance that feeling with strict attention to my mental health, my attitude and the basics like breath work and hydration and fun with friends. And I remind myself: Don't believe everything you think.
lowrads@reddit
We lived in villages or their meandering equivalent for all of our generations but the most recent ones. The absence of someone sharing an identifiable viewpoint is instrumental to that feeling.
calamitytamer@reddit
I have the feeling too. So do two of my friends, both of whom had that feeling before the pandemic. There’s definitely something bad on the horizon.
Edgecrusher2140@reddit
It feels corny but I’ve been listening to the Nine Inch Nails album Year Zero lately because it kind of captures this mood. It is about the collapse of multiple systems, war, political unrest, environmental and social decay, but there’s also the perspective an otherworldly presence (could be interpreted as aliens but it’s not specified) that expresses the spiritual angst we are suffering. I don’t know if I’d call it a great album, lyrically it’s pretty on the nose, but listening to someone else at least try to put this feeling into words is providing a therapeutic emotional outlet for me right now. And it’s from 2009.
pumpkinspicecum@reddit
I feel the same way and I was thinking about this last night with regards to the rich building bunkers and planning for it. It really does feel like we’re going downhill and as the climate worsens things will pick up fast
DisearnestHemmingway@reddit
There are pockets of sanity and maturity that exist and will grow over the next 5 years until it becomes a more mainstream concern.
I write about this almost exclusively. I’ll leave a link to my work. Platforms like Substack host the kinds of thinkers and writers or are confronting this reality.
We are one in 100,000. Five years ago it was 1 in a million who was interested enough to care or cared enough to be interested. Soon it will be 1 in 10,000. Maybe you are just that guy/girl?
This Is Not A Substack Post
No paywall.
Pickledsoul@reddit
Its probably brain issues caused by microplastics. I would imagine the governments of the world know there's no effective way to remedy the widespread dementia that's likely on the horizon.
Karmastocracy@reddit
If you're in the U.S. what you're feeling is the collapse of an empire.
Shorttail0@reddit
Speed the collapse.
Speed through the stages of grief.
Accept the sweet embrace of death.
So_it_begins_23@reddit
C-Ovid-19
Ovid's Metamorphoses - 19th paragraph:
"Mankind's a monster, and th' ungodly times
Confed'rate into guilt, are sworn to crimes.
All are alike involv'd in ill, and all
Must by the same relentless fury fall.
I will from wondrous principles ordain
A race unlike the first, and try my skill again."
Terrible-Tooth5456@reddit
Definitely feel this, too. It's been a growing sense of unease and impending, well, impending something since about 2017 or so, and the feeling has gotten more intense with each year that passes. My family and I joke that it's genetic memory telling us to gtfo of here, but really, maybe it is. Things are feeling very "ethnic cleansing"/Jim Crow in the US.
But yeah, I can't shake the feeling either, like we're on a huge roller coaster and about to go down the first, maybe highest drop - that something new and frightening is happening. I suppose it could just be stress combined with my tendency towards slightly conspiratorial thinking, but whatever it is, I absolutely feel it, too. Hang tough, friend, and if you need someone to talk to about it, I'm here, and there's always the collapse support subreddit if you prefer groups and such.
Ok-Remote-7269@reddit
You're definitely not alone in this feeling... Much like animals can sense an earthquake or thunderstorm before it happens, i believe humans have this ability too. It's different because we have forethought, but much the same on a long enough time scale.
Medical_Ad2125b@reddit
Some people have felt this way throughout history. Probably in part due to their psychology. This is nothing new and life will muddle on as it always has.
stratofax@reddit
It’s “the crumbles“ where everything is just slowly falling apart, like a bridge that hasn’t been repaired in decades, until it finally collapses. Then everyone is like “how could this possibly happen?”
thisjustblows8@reddit
Our planet is dying... Of course you can feel it. We all can i think.
UhThatsRare@reddit
I’m right there with you. I’ve observed the current state of things, people and how they act and their patterns, the media, I see people medicating more than ever. I think there’s so many facets of it but it cannot continue like this. I think the internet was the greatest tool for humanity but maybe also destroyed us. Instant communication and the ever continued grip around our necks tightening was never meant to be sustainable. I feel it to. It’s not one thing, it’s everything all at once. Something is fundamentally off. It’s nearly killed my drive to pursue anything because I feel like whatever it is, I will encounter in my lifetime and it will be inescapable.
anarchist_person1@reddit
You gotta get some friends who have a palpable sense of dread about the state of the world hanging over them constantly
ChillChillyChris@reddit
This user sums it up pretty well. There's been themes of a Reset, Rebirth, and Destruction in media which could be them revelaing their plan, or the collective unconscious is communicating:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1jmvhf6/comment/mkeyv98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1jncmvz/comment/mkjftnv/?context=3
Wabi-Sabi_Umami@reddit
I’ve been feeling this way for a couple of years now. The feeling has only become louder and stronger since January 20.
Grand-Page-1180@reddit
It feels like we're a dead society walking sometimes, like we're just going through the motions at this point. What's the endgame to all of this? I feel like most of us are the just killing time until something nails the last coffin into this shallow civilization.
ask_me_about_my_band@reddit
Oh, for sure. There is something about to pop.
But being worried about won't change a thing.
Talk to people around you and that you trust to form a network. Get to know your community. Buy extra supplies.
Most of all, just live the life you have been waiting for. Make some art, take that trip, damn the consequences. Do that thing on your bucket list. Call that friend. Have the sex, do the drugs and order that thing on the menu that is more expensive.
We can't stop it. We can't control it. Might as well have a little fun while we still can find it.
bosonrider@reddit
This sense of malaise, or foreboding, is very prominent right now, but it is not a new phenomenon. I have felt this way ever since Reagan won, and it goes back even further, known by different names throughout history. Here is one example from Dostoevsky's 'Humilated and Insulted':
and another is from Paul Fussel's 'The Great War and Modern Memory', regarding the new, modern war, dread of returning over and over again to the same carcass strewn no-mans-land dor another inevitable slaughter:
And also David J's sonic anthem "I Can't Shake this Shadow of Fear."
So, not to take away from the terrible reality of life with a fascist President and his rich cronies, but, it is more typically historic than most people are willing to acknowledge.
daringnovelist@reddit
Agree, but honestly, I don’t think those billionaires with their secret bunkers or any officials are prepared for it either. They are preparing for the fantasy post-apocalypse that they are intentionally trying to create. It’s not going to go at all the way they think.
Ancient-Quality9620@reddit
Isn't this because we are on the downward trajectory with the Collapse?!
I thought we were all in general agreement on that .
PandorasKeyboard@reddit
Follow the white rabbit.
PandorasKeyboard@reddit
Sorry, couldn't resist but I don't disagree with what you're saying. I liked the decade to midnight YouTube series but yes even that feels like real feasible problems that may occur. I can barely make myself do my job anymore which is highly creative and enjoyable and well paid but it feels pointless, like it will all be for nothing eventually, with a fizzle or a bang.
roblewk@reddit
Oddly, I feel like the police are a big factor. I’ve watched the police become the enemy in my lifetime. They only look out for themselves. In response, people rightly disrespect the police. Example. We have groups of kids on four-wheelers closing down the streets. The police can’t stop them. It sucks for residents. It sucks for society. But here we are.
Kittenunleashed@reddit
I think there are many that share this foreboding. Like a huge wave just out of view..,but we can all feel it hanging heavy over us. When it hits..??
Sally_Stitches_@reddit
The dread omg the utter dread. We are in for a major shift and it’s gonna suck. Is the feeling. Don’t discount the jokers though I bet at least some of them relate but just use humor to cope tbh.
ttystikk@reddit
You're not wrong.
AgencyWarm2840@reddit
That 'thing' is impending mass-starvation, chaos, and essentially a return to feudalism, now with guns.
What could possibly go wrong?
BlueLilyM@reddit
I feel this too. Some days it's just a nagging splinter of worry, other days it's like a void where there should be solidity. It's hard to explain, the void quality is something I have only felt once before- starting 3 days before 9/11. The closest I can get is when the forest gets suddenly too quiet, and you know something big is moving through. Except in this case, the forest feels safe and it's the human world that ripples with the weirdness.
Nerdbag60@reddit
Absolutely. They’re scrambling to get off of this planet and keeping us distracted enough so they can get away with it.
Neverstopstopping82@reddit
Taking everything from us before they do.
Neverstopstopping82@reddit
It’s not clear to me if it’s perpetuated by the headlines everyday. But yeah, I know what you mean. The way the elites are scrambling is bizarre.
Quarks4branes@reddit
Yes I feel the sense of impending doom as well, that everything is fraying, falling apart, that both ecosystems and civilisation are on the threshold of collapsing: that billions of humans will die in the decades to come but even that's dwarfed by the damage we will have done to the planet. I'm aghast when I see people having babies and taking out mortgages as though they can't feel it the way I can . The writing is in the wall but it's like Nebuchadnezzar is just keeping on partying, faster and harder and even more uproariously as he catches glimpses of the writing out of the corner of his eye.
But I also feel a weird kind of hope as well. I think that people are waking up to how we should be in the world, that wanting to have it all isn't sustainable. I think people are waking up to the idea of the real riches in life being about connection to life around them, to other beings and to the spiritual/numinous. Yes it's too late to save civilisation... but then, fuck civilisation because it's destroying the natural world anyway ... as well as treating living beings, humans included, with progressively less and less tenderness and dignity. By the time it burns I suspect a lot of us will be playing the fiddle like Nero.
I have hope that after the die-off, after the collapse, after the immediate Mad-Max aftermath, that the survivors, with luck, might be able to create something smaller, sustainable, gentler, something better than all this.
Skrudrak@reddit
I often wonder if we are the first to truly feel that, cause in the past one could at least find comfort in the knowledge that somewhere other people will continue our legacy. As great as a catastrophy was, it never affected all. Unlike now where there is no escaping it and wether you are far up north or on a tropic island, life and earth will bring all of us down. For me its either a miracle where we all come together and pray as one humanity or we wont make it. And i think this feeling is perhaps some kind of spiritual pressure, letting us now this is the big learning exercise we all came here for. To trust and hope, even in these times, stand our believes and still try to make a positive impact, cause what else is there left?
tsyhanka@reddit
yep, I suggest checking out the podcast Breaking Down: Collapse (start from the beginning)
compounddreams@reddit
Yes. This is a weird story, but bear with me...
My girlfriend recently quit her job at a Black owned non-profit organic farm.
Thing is, she found out shortly before she left that the soul funder had been Nicole Shanahan, The billionaire ex-wife of a Google accounter and RFKs running mate. She funded several similar Black owned farms or social justice organizations.
Shortly after the election, several of the executive directors of these orgs started talking to each other, because Nicole was pulling funding. They wanted to do some kind of intervention because she had lost her mind. This is all third hand mind you, but something something about needing to amass resources to finish her luxury bunker urgently.
I presume it's all part and parcel with the Yarvin/Thiel network cities plan. They are all reorienting toward running their own technocratic fiefdoms. 100% privatized, online, subscription-based "utopias" for the in-crowd, while Yarvin himself has "joked" that the poor will make great biofuel. But you know how jokes work these days. The ubiquitousness of trolling is a perfect segue into mass gaslighting.
I want to be hopeful, but pragmatically, I don't think there's any coming back from this. You see the mass delusion, the polarization, the cheering for cruelty, the narrow-casting of information through social media and the proliferation of media sources. At all, fuels arise in global sectarian violence. If you're fortunate enough to have the resources to go full off grid & live small and hope for the best, I think that's going to be the best shot at living out a happy life for us 99%ers. I'm grateful I don't have kids.
funkybunch1624@reddit
its called the "crumbles". at least here in Victoria Australia....
kenjoncan@reddit (OP)
While i have these in my mind, i still go to work, look after my family. I accepted this situation. I know there is nothing i can do. Soo continue to be..
DisillusionedBook@reddit
They felt this in the mid 30's too.
Ne0n_Dystopia@reddit
Great depression was economic, this feels different because it's global and beyond human ideas into the ecological reality.
DisillusionedBook@reddit
No, in the mid thirties there was a growing sense of inevitability about a new world war.
ssquirt1@reddit
I’ve been feeling this for a long, long time.
malcolmrey@reddit
My solution? Find something that takes the mind of those things.
Initially it was alcohol and eating but that has negative effects on yourself.
Then I was lucky to find a woman and cuddling for hours seems like a fine way of keeping dark thoughts from coming out.
I mean, we know we are fucked, let's make the best of it while we still can.
E_N_E_K_O_I_T_Z@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/AdamCurtis/s/ek7wKIexdV
Geaniebeanie@reddit
Makes sense.
beenthere7613@reddit
I feel it too. I have worked for over 30 years. Raised kids without a support network. Worked 3 jobs while I went to college. I was an eternal optimist! All you have to do is try, and the universe provides.
So why, now, do I feel so hopeless?
My check now can't purchase what my check bought thirty years ago, and my pay has TRIPLED. More than tripled, if you go back a few more years. And I'm in unimaginable debt that I'll never pay off, because the college lied to me about wages when they chose my major. I tried to change it 3 times, they said no.
I used to take my kids to visit out of state family. WHILE I WAS FEEDING THEM TOO. The last trip was 2008. I just don't have the extra money now. Can't take chances like I used to.
And I'm just so sad. All the time. This is not how it was supposed to be! When my wages tripled, my trips were supposed to triple. Not go away! I was supposed to be able to afford more things once my kids left home, not less!
Something is wrong. Lots of things. And I can't ignore it. It is permeating my very existence.
No_Scientist9241@reddit
I’ve been waiting for the collapse for a while, like 2-3 years now. Where the fascism gets purged out/and or destroys itself and we’re forced to rebuild. As for climate, I’m not sure what it’s going to take for the average person to notice or care. Atlanta has had its highest pollen count on record and GA recently had a wildfire red flag warning for several days. That’s not even counting the massive storm+wildfire combo the Midwest is seeing. The breaking point might be something even more devastating and unusual than Helene unfortunately.
Due to TikTok’s new censorship in the states, I rarely see anything about events or protests like I used to. Twitter is less censored, but it got taken over by fascist bots and though there are political posts, there is absolutely nothing about climate. I don’t know what it’s going to take for the political collapse, but I can imagine the tariffs and stock market decline are already making a bad first impression. Elon Musk is becoming more hated universally so the DOGE shtick isn’t going to last for long either.
Orange_Zinc_Funny@reddit
You're not alone... And I think you're right.
Far_Tale9953@reddit
I absolutely feel that and I feel like 95% of the population could care less unless it directly affects them. It's depressing to feel upset or angry about the state of the world and everyone around you is like what are you talking about
ParamedicExcellent15@reddit
Of course they don’t care, that’s how we got here. Ppl love their comforts, conveniences and domesticities. My generation has been told since the late 80s that the environment is going to pot and we have all basically just stood by and watched it happen because we have it ‘good’.
Kam-the-man@reddit
The planet exists on scales outside of our comprehension. Do not dwell on the fate of a species that represents less than a second of a day.
lifeissisyphean@reddit
And the worst seconds, at that.
MissDisplaced@reddit
At this point nothing would surprise me.
We well know the fossil fuels will run out soon. How soon? Within 50 to 100 years is my guess unless they’re holding something back to replace them. But thing is, we’ve already reached the tipping point for global warming and climate change is already happening all around us. These things begin to cause instability as the wealthy seek to control and consolidate what they can while they still can.
star--stuff@reddit
You certainly came to the right place to share everything you feel about the collapse all around us.
Geaniebeanie@reddit
You’re in the right subreddit.
Geaniebeanie@reddit
You’re in the right subreddit.
quadralien@reddit
The Shareholders are cashing out.
kenjoncan@reddit (OP)
By the way some people are saying that this has happened before. Yes it did, but not like this. All i am trying to say is there more than this world. Maybe this is the fifth time that people are living on this earth. And it will end again like before we do not know. Again; these are just my thoughts. I am from Turkey and I do not believe in religion. I am a teacher and have a tech company, but it is really hard yo tell your thoughts to people that are around me
InvestmentSoggy870@reddit
It feels like the end of the world. People must have felt the same way during the World Wars. We will go on, and if humanity doesn't survive, then you are talking about Armageddon. Without trying to sound like a crazy religious person, all these signs have been predicted. It's biblical. I'm going to suggest faith based support, and to be clear, I'm not talking about mega churches and judgy churches, the far right hypocritical "Christians." But there are loving congregations, (like my Episcopal church. The Reverend that spoke to tRump so directly at the inauguration is Episcopal), that are eager to hold your hand in difficult times, to support you in a belief that no matter what happens you are loved and that God has good plans for us. He sees, hears and is not surprised. My church family is a place where we all work together for others that are suffering, especially now with all the cuts. It feels good to be doing something to help my fellow man with a group of loving people. We can all do something in our corner of the world to ease someone else's pain and fear. We can stick together and lift each other up, no matter what comes down the line. Hang in there and look for support, wherever you may find it. I hope you also find a fulfilling way to ease the lives of others.
antihostile@reddit
“I think there’s going to be another war.”
TheMcDudeBro@reddit
I 100% am feeling this too. Like I have such tension in me that I never had before that feels like I can sense something is terribly wrong but I can never quite put my finger on it. I feel that way about the world and my fears that global disaster is headed our way in the next few months that will bring about suffering on an never before seen scale. I feel this and I dont know what to do about it
kenjoncan@reddit (OP)
Thanks for all the thoughtful responses. Part 2 is now live here: https://www.reddit.com/r/collapse/s/VxPDpGM17v
puppeteerspoptarts@reddit
I feel it too, friend
HanumanjiShivaRam81@reddit
The status quo died. We’re in a new era and yesterday’s rules don’t work anymore. No one can fall into a peaceful unconscious lull. We’re all nervous and hypervigilant because the new normal hasn’t been established yet-and it won’t be for 5-10 years.
realityunderfire@reddit
Feel free to join my group, r/FacebookWall I share a lot of your sentiments, and I have some answers. Also feel free to DM me if you need someone to talk to. I’ve become a hermit as of late and I don’t have any friends in RL, just my 4 boys and wife.
saul2015@reddit
don't forget about long covid and the damage that continues to build up with every infection
DelcoPAMan@reddit
Yes, I feel something too. It's more than anxiety, more like a sword hanging overhead by a thread or 2.
rgs2007@reddit
I've had this same feeling and the anxiety is becoming bigger and bigger like somethings is approaching and I its hard times. It looks like it is war, hunger, mass immigration, violence, caos...
hiddendrugs@reddit
r/CollapseSupport
Inside_Ad2602@reddit
Lots of things are coming. Try this: Second Renaissance
Odd_Awareness1444@reddit
Myself and many many others feel exactly as you are. I try my best to do the daily things that keep life moving forward but I feel like it is a false front that I put on to keep others happy. Inside I know that things are falling apart on a global scale and I can do little to nothing about it. Trying to talk to family or friends is useless as they either glaze over, deny, or scoff.
iseab@reddit
I definitely can relate. I’ve had discussions about why I prep and people laugh and make jokes, but I’m always respond with “seriously, look at the state of the world and you really think it’s that ridiculous to be at least be a little prepared for shit to go south?”
Then it makes me think am I over reacting or am I feeling something that others are not?
sirspeedy99@reddit
It's possible AGI has already been achieved, and every global event is now being curated by a machine..
despot_zemu@reddit
No it isn’t
Elbows_Up_Bud@reddit
💯 like the air right before a major lightening storm.
Spongbov5@reddit
Shit ass Apple is the problem
river_tree_nut@reddit
No, you're totally right. These are turbulent times. There's instability all around us, and that creates a feeling of precariousness. But its just facts, A LOT of things are changing, we can't deny that.
Sykza@reddit
I feel the same, something feels very wrong.
Impending doom is a good way to describe it.
Astalon18@reddit
First thing, there is nothing wrong with the world per say if you are talking about Reality. Reality is just fine.
However, there is clearly something wrong with:-
(1) The Holocene climate we have gotten used to due to climate change
(2) The natural ecosystem we have due to pollution ( excluding the greenhouse effect which I put under climate but they are one and the same )
(3) The social fabric that has become the accepted norm since WW2 ( noting social norms are always and ever changing so we are just in another period of change )
This is all that is wrong.
However Reality, the World Itself? It is fine. The laws of physics are fine, the planets and stars remain in perpetual motion.
roboito1989@reddit
This was always going to happen. Collapse is the solution to the problem that is civilization. The aberration will be corrected.
241ShelliPelli@reddit
Wow me too. Didn’t know anyone else felt like that too
Harrkinas@reddit
Yeah that's called depression & anxiety and you should probably go to a doctor.
Temporary_Second3290@reddit
Yes. Agree 👍 💯
I hate the impending doom feeling in my gut.
Jeffformayor@reddit
Funnily enough, this feeling you’re feeling is actually the main antagonist of Ayn Rands Atlas Shrugged. Which has become a strangely prophetic work recently.
Sweaty_Eye7120@reddit
Just prioritize friends and family. There is nothing that can be done with these fuckwits dismantling democracy across the world. Unless we can get people to want to fight. We should expect to perish soon. They are already telling us. Pretty soon they won’t need humans for the jobs. They have a problem with Medicare and social security…. You really think they’re gonna hook us up with UBI when there’s no jobs? Hell no…. We are gonna have to either hunt them down one by one, or starve…. One by one.
Marv3ll616@reddit
Turn off the internet, things will be better and look better.
Any_Handle_9061@reddit
Yup