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worstpartyever@reddit

EPIC stands for East Plano Islamic Center; they want to build a housing development for Muslims in Josephine, about 40 miles north of Dallas.

The state GOP is freaking out.

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jeremysbrain@reddit

Yeah, god forbid people other than Christians be allowed to build and own homes near their church.

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Arrasor@reddit

Wait we have housing developments where they can discriminate based on religion? Just great.

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artificialevil@reddit

What’s the difference between that and a collective of hippies buying up a bunch of land and building a commune?

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

Do you think the communes are discriminating similar to the way a community under Sharia law would?

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ppham1027@reddit

We out here doing post-9/11 islamophobia still?

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

We are not, our Islamic neighbors are an incredibly valuable asset and rich culture to learn a lot from. Mentioning shariah law and asking a question does not imply Islamophobia.

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

“Sharia is a body of religious law that forms a part of the Islamic tradition based on scriptures of Islam, particularly the Qu’ran and Hadith.”

I do not support any communities founded upon religion. It is not Islam that is my issue here, it is the religious component. I would be against an evangelical community equally the same. There seems to be a knee jerk response that anyone against this is Islamophobic, which is certainly accurate for many people, but is not the only reason someone might not support the development.

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whatitpoopoo@reddit

As far as I know ow there's no mandate to be muslim or abide by sharia law in the hoa or contract for this community. It seems to have just raised eyebrows about being advertised to that group, and uses the on site masjid as a selling point. So it's a little bit questionable, but not outright illegal imo

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Brave-Talk@reddit

The developers stated they would not impose “blanket bans on any group of people” but would conduct “thorough individualized assessments of prospective buyers” to ensure alignment with community goals of “safety and security.”

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whatitpoopoo@reddit

Hmmm that's an eyebrow raiser for sure.

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Brave-Talk@reddit

More than an eyebrow raise. This is America there shouldn’t be communities specifically built for a religious group.

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Brave-Talk@reddit

More than an eyebrow raise. This is America there shouldn’t be communities specifically built for a religious group.

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

I doubt there is anything illegal about their plans, and frankly, Josephine would largely benefit from their new neighbors, the Islamic community has been nothing but kind and welcoming in my experience. I still do not support it on principle.

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whatitpoopoo@reddit

So how far away does a neighborhood need to be away from a mosque to make it ok for you?

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

Ideally the neighborhood would not be built around a central place of worship.

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whatitpoopoo@reddit

Why not?

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whatitpoopoo@reddit

There is nothing discriminatory in the language of the housing contracts.

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artificialevil@reddit

Read up about Rajneeshpuram. I would say that committing the largest bioterrorism attack in US history is a pretty militant way to trying to exclude people and ideas from your community.

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Top_Willingness_1310@reddit

Interesting, I hadn’t heard about this before thank you for sharing.

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Plcoomer@reddit

Do I have to grow my hair out and not shower often? Because I’m ok with that.

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Historical_Dentonian@reddit

Better than the nondenominational churches near me. Their clerical requirements are tough. Molesting tweens and frequenting gay prostitutes is bridge too far for me.

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USMCLee@reddit

Pretty sure anyone can buy the house but the development is marketed to specific religions.

There is a big Catholic one off Sandy Lake. Might even be a church in the middle that HOA dues are used to maintain.

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AccomplishedFlan7507@reddit

Yes, by all means try to go buy a house in that development.

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MrZeppy@reddit

No we don’t, anyone can buy the house if the wish

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ilvbras@reddit

Not the case here

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

I will admit I've never seen a church here build houses and sell them exclusively to Christians, so that does seem weird to me.

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lathamb_98@reddit

They’re selling them to anyone. Not just Muslims. Feel free to move there.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

I'm sure its still aimed towards Muslims though. Like how student housing can be used by anyone but all of the incentives make it so its still 95% students in off-campus housing.

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lathamb_98@reddit

That is not what they are doing either. It’s a subdivision. Go buy one or leave them alone.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

Why so hostile? Calm down dude. You're projecting onto me things that I haven't even done.

The top comment said that they are building a housing development and other comments pointed out that they are focusing on muslim-oriented amenities. All I did was point out that I've never seen any church or other religious group do this. If there's more to it then I literally do not know the full story and i'm only operating off of knowledge from this post.

Seriously pisses me off when people take nuance or hesitation as outright hostility.

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jtx91@reddit

All I did was point out that I’ve never seen any church or religious group do this

Actually, you have. Open your eyes a little wider and think for a minute because I absolutely believe that you believe this. But really take the time to consider the thought of, “hmm….why IS there always a church in every small town in America?”

And then think about this - is what these folks are doing actually any different than what happens all around you every day? And maybe the fact that it’s not a church…is causing some cognitive dissonance. We all have blind spots and I am not criticizing you in any way at all. I just want you to really deep down think about it.

Take a look at this map: https://imgur.com/a/EnJBKtK

Why do some of these churches have the name of a city in their official title? Because when the community was built they intentionally added ____ focused amenities <— fill in that blank

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SydWander@reddit

There being a lot of churches isn’t the same as a church buying a sub division lmao

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jtx91@reddit

You have the same blind spot.

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lathamb_98@reddit

Not sure I'm the one that needs to be calm. Also not sure that anyone cares what you find weird, or what seriously pisses you off. If you're going to be so sensitive to the tone of people on the internet, maybe better understand what you're posting about first. Live and let live.

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jeremysbrain@reddit

They won't have to. The fact that the area will only include a Muslim school and church, most non-Muslim families won't want to live there. My guess these will all be houses that people in nearby areas, like Josephine or Caddo Mills can't afford. Plus, their website originally seemed to say that many of the homes were going to be sold to immigrants from other countries.

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ContextWorking976@reddit

How is this a criminal matter?

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b_reezy4242@reddit

The irony is… that they Islamic women have the least rights of any culture in the world…

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Dallas-ModTeam@reddit

Your post/comment has been removed because it violates Rule #2: Discriminatory Language

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Send a message the moderators if you have any questions. Thanks!

Mod note: There is no single Islamic culture just like there's no single Christian culture or Hindu or any other culture. The biggest definer of how a culture treats its women is how conservative their religions are. This is a universal trait. Trying to paint all Islamic cultures as being conservative is not appropriate.

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truth-4-sale@reddit

Curious as to where the funding is coming from, ultimately.

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helic_vet@reddit

Saudi Arabia and Qatar

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truth-4-sale@reddit

Or S.A.

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JohnPaulDavyJones@reddit

EPIC has is a pretty big congregation, and they had so many doctors and medical professionals that their ability to reopen any mode of conventional-adjacent worship safely during Covid was pretty hotly debated. It’s the equivalent of (size-wise) of a megachurch like Watermark, but with a congregation that skews toward higher-income professions. I guess one could call it a “megamosque”, but I’ve never heard that term used before.

So that’s the background for the underlying funding, but they’re not just self-funding the project, just exploring the possibility of underwriting it through a corporation stood up to manage the project, which is called Community Capital Partners.

The actual operational capital will come from people paying to reserve lots; anyone interested in reserving a spot in EPIC City (the name of the project, which is a series of three planned developments) has to put up $80,000 to reserve a lot. EPIC City has 1,000 lots in the main development, and they had ~500 reserved within days of the project kickoff, so that’s $40,000,000 right there to begin construction.

The project has a well-written and well-sourced Wikipedia page for anyone curious.

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SquirrelQueasy2456@reddit

AND ITS NOTHING WRONG WITH WHAT THEY ARE WANTING TO CREATE FOR THEIR CULTURE AND COMMUNITY. I LIVE IN ROYSE CITY, 3 miles from Josephine and what they are wanting to create for them does not put me in fear at all!

This land belongs to GOD and people need to stop trying to control what GOD has produced.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

Just make sure the women use the rear entrance.

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msondo@reddit

Why are they freaking out now? Irving already has several neighborhoods off 161 that seem to be targeted to the local muslim community. They are built next to the mosque, have an islamic aesthetic, are named things like “Alhambra Estates”, and even have streets named after Islamic people. They have a couple of banger restaurants in the area.

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JohnPaulDavyJones@reddit

More east than north, but yup.

My aunt lives in Josephine. We basically just go up to Plano and head due east about twenty miles through Wylie and then Lavon.

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worstpartyever@reddit

Thank you! Sorry for the mistake

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Berns429@reddit

The state ~~GOP~~ racists are freaking out

FTFY

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Background_Big_4609@reddit

Spain kicked out the Moors. Why shouldn't Texas be able to?

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ulicqd@reddit

I believe you mean the Moops.

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Double funny because of his obvious leanings and this video

https://youtu.be/xMabpBvtXr4?si=LPOHikKYTnuWGXiI

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Background_Big_4609@reddit

LOLz. What is this show about anyways?

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soonerfreak@reddit

Spain also kicked out the Jews, maybe not the comparison you think it is.

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Background_Big_4609@reddit

Eh... crap. Forgot about that.

Oh well.

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Historical_Dentonian@reddit

I lived near Ursuline/Jesuit/St Monica’s. Funny how no one seemed to care when Catholics wanted to live near Catholic churches and schools. 🤷‍♂️

Seems like LDS and Muslims are getting an entirely different reception.

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Plcoomer@reddit

Why do MAGA’s cream themselves thinking it’s OK to command law enforcement to do anything?

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helic_vet@reddit

What else are law enforcement for but enforce laws?

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Plcoomer@reddit

If you stay with the topic, you can understand where it’s going. Your question is off-topic.

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

Hi, I’m a member of this mosque. Y’all are right about how this is nonsense. I just wanted to say about the negative things said about Islam, there is 10 times more misinformation than correct information out there about Islam. I recommend yall just take a peak at it before believing sources that have every reason to lie and manufacture hatred toward Islam. If you’d like, ask me any questions even though I’m not a scholar.

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mistiquefog@reddit

https://x.com/TheThe1776/status/1907176898817597922?t=hPMHPqzMR7xRpCL_erovAw&s=19

The chief preacher is openly encouraging the members of EPIC to go out and change the minds of others and bring about a cultural and political revolution in The USA.

Any guesses about what the revolution might be about?

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

My guy, he’s saying preach to anyone who’s interested, not mind wipe them with a machine😭. Almost every religion does this man, like the Christians handing out fliers or talking to people about Jesus Christ. The “revolution” is that people will make change because they came back to god, and we live in… you know… a democracy. He’s not condoning or supporting any violence or indoctrination.

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mistiquefog@reddit

He is from Pakistan. And we know what a revolution Pakistan is

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

You need to edit what you said to make sense grammatically, but I understand part of what you said is he’s from Pakistan. He is not. He was born in Houston and is an American just like anyone else. America doesn’t have a race, it doesn’t matter what your race is, you can be American. You’re sounding kinda racist man.

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mistiquefog@reddit

Qadhi was born in Houston, Texas to Pakistani Muhajir parents.[15] His father, a doctor by profession, founded the first mosque in the area, while his mother is a microbiologist, both from Karachi in Pakistan and whose ancestral homeland is Uttar Pradesh in India.

Oh God he is actually from more radical school of thought than I had imagined.

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

Now you’re going off topic. I told you what he meant and I’m right. You know I’m right, so you’re bringing up his elders from long ago. Yasser studied around the world, his opinions have nothing to do with what his parents believe, and he has spoken against those beliefs publicly. You’re not going anywhere with this.

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mistiquefog@reddit

We have his words from himself. There is no doubt about what he is saying.

His parents believe in Islam as does he.

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

Alr man, if you wanted to be fair, you’d have understood he is talking about a cultural revolution. Hes condemned violence countless times, and no sane person thinks Muslims could create a revolution in America. But if you want to believe he’s inciting violence, even though he’s not, you will. I think you should take a second to analyze your prejudices.

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mistiquefog@reddit

You are the one prejudiced.

Why would he talk about violence when he can bring about a change in the state at the ballot box?

He knows that violence will not work, hence he is laying the ground work for the next 500 years via demographic change.

We have seen that in the UK

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

He’s not gonna turn people Pakistani by showing them Islam. Hes talking about showing America Islam, and if it wants it, there will therefore be change… because we are a democracy. What you’re saying is people shouldn’t be allowed to convert to islam, and if they do, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Also how am I prejudiced? Can’t just say that without backing.

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mistiquefog@reddit

Yup it's all a conversion and produce more children game.

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

Can’t believe I didn’t check your profile earlier. Conservative Indian, no surprise you hate Muslims in America when your nation is constantly and increasingly oppressing them. Sad, just know modi lies and he’s not god.

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mistiquefog@reddit

Hmm a bit of history lesson :-

Muslims and Hindus constituted two distinct nations and that the two could not coexist under a single government-- Mohammad Ali Jinnah founder of Pakistan.

So I wonder when a separate nation was given, why did Muslims not migrate to the country they demanded for?

If Muslims are being oppressed in India, I don't see anyone running away to Bangladesh or Pakistan. Fact is that India faces monumental illegal infiltration by Muslims from Bangladesh.

I wonder why Muslims live in such oppressive conditions in India and just don't cross over into the country they demanded.

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Throwawaysei95@reddit

Just admit you’re racist lol

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

Are you still going to have an oppressive rear entrance for the "sisters" like this one in McKinney?
McKinney, Texas - Google Maps

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

I’m not gonna deny this entrance is sub optimal, but it’s not “oppressive”. It’s not some back alley, it’s just as open and exposed as any other entrance. The reason the woman were given the back one, which still, is suboptimal, is because men are required to come to the mosque to some prayers, while women are not, making male attendance bigger. But the mosque management was still not okay with this design, so they are currently working on a new custom-built building, with an entrance similar to epic IANT, or any other purpose built mosque, which for some reason you ignore. Point is, this was a small and poor mosque when it started, so they had to rent out a suboptimal non purpose built location, with many more flaws for all attendees than this. LMK if you have questions or disagree.

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ultimatejourney@reddit

I’m honestly more concerned about the sprawl aspect of it - we are losing our good farmland to development. I think there’s an opportunity here but I’m not sure a traditional American development is it.

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PhysicsDeep8164@reddit

I actually had the same concern, I even wrote an email to the board. The thing is, they are not acting for-profit, so it’s hard to get the capital to buy land in existing suburbs. At least they are building a lot of townhomes and apartments.🤷‍♂️

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Plcoomer@reddit

Thumbs up - Islam is as valid as any religion.

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mistiquefog@reddit

Listen to the chief preacher in his own words and decide for yourself

https://x.com/TheThe1776/status/1907176898817597922?t=hPMHPqzMR7xRpCL_erovAw&s=19

The chief preacher is openly encouraging the members of EPIC to go out and change the minds of others and bring about a cultural and political revolution in The USA.

Any guesses about what the revolution might be about?

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TryNotToAnyways2@reddit

Is there any actual acusation of fraud or criminality? Is there any evidence that warrants an investigation? Or is this just a fishiing trip because "Muslim scary"?

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Mynameisdiehard@reddit

Well there is also the Fair Housing Act which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, religion, etc. Making a development where only those of a specific religion can buy is illegal. It's the exact same as when they would only allow white people into certain developments.

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ContextWorking976@reddit

OK, you quoted the FEDERAL Housing Act, shouldn't this be a federal investigation?

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Mynameisdiehard@reddit

Texas has a Fair Housing Act of their own:

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PR/htm/PR.301.htm

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helic_vet@reddit

Got 'im!

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lathamb_98@reddit

Good thing that’s not what they’re doing.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

Yes they are. Quit lying to yourself.

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Mynameisdiehard@reddit

They asked if there was accusation of criminality. I never said they were, I was stating that is the accusation. Helps to read the parent comment before responding

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lathamb_98@reddit

Comment still valid.

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Mynameisdiehard@reddit

Fair. Moreso for the barrage of downvotes for me answering a question

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TryNotToAnyways2@reddit

Epic has stated multiple times they will comply with all Fair housing laws. Since this is still just a concept and they haven't actually sold anything yet, it's not possible that they have broken any Fair housing laws. So no need for an investigation. Yet the governor still felt compelled to slander Epic with implications of criminality.

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jtx91@reddit

I think the legal justification of this investigation is based on this accusation:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/texas-mosque-ordered-to-halt-alleged-illegal-funeral-services.html

It’s all wonderfully vague, of course.

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soonerfreak@reddit

If Christianity was treated like this DFW would have its own anti pastor pedo task force.

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OnesixthShape@reddit

The funny thing is that christians think they are prosecuted and discriminated against.

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Prestigious-Pipe245@reddit

First they go after Mexicans, then the LGBTQ community, then public school teachers, and now Muslims.

Who’s next??

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helic_vet@reddit

The Swiss

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OleDirtMcGirt901@reddit

Aren't there Muslim neighborhoods in Irving? I remember driving through one subdivision and noticed that the street signs were Arabic names. It seems like they live in peace and keep to themselves but I've only been over there once. It's a burger place not too far away that I was going to.

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Hot_Tonight_5720@reddit

I saw that one too. There are a few Muslim-centric neighborhoods in the metroplex and I know of at least one neighborhood developed by a Christian church.

It’s not unusual for churches to develop neighborhoods. Many have expanded into housing and community development in recent years. it even has a name, faith-based development.

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SydWander@reddit

This is the first I’ve heard of a church doing this. I will need to look this up. Personally, I don’t believe any religion should be able to do this.

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MethanyJones@reddit

Good. It'll drive a wedge between the so-called christians and the muslims - it'll keep them from realizing they both hate LGBT

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jtx91@reddit

I shit you not when I was a teenager and Obama was president, I will never forget my mother shrieking while watching Fox News, “THEYRE TRYING TO INSTALL SHARIA LAW,” and then the. literal. next. week. while eating lunch at school, my school counselor came to me pale as a ghost and said, “Your mother called and told us not to let you leave campus under any circumstances and that two men would be coming to pick you up. You should leave right now.”

Turns out that crazy bitch had hired one of those teenager kidnapping services to traffic me and take me off to conversion therapy camp.

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all2neat@reddit

Holy crap! I did not see that ending coming.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

Hey go check out this place in mckinney with a women's entrance on the back of the building. fuck all religion especially that one

McKinney, Texas - Google Maps

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jerichowiz@reddit

Good person school counselor.

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SquirrelQueasy2456@reddit

He need to leave them people alone! These politicians always trying to control something! If they purchased the land they can build and create whatever the heck they want! Like who gives Greg Abbott the right to open up a investigation because someone wants to build homes and a place of worship and schools for their community.

Greg Abbott just announced ending school so what's his freaking problem. CONTROLLING POS! I'm sick of this political BS!

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

That's not how shit works here.

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dallasuptowner@reddit

From the state that brought you "White Settlement" as an actual city name.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

That must make it right.... Idiot. It's 2025 now. quit licking these people's feet

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Worth_Middle_2238@reddit

What about the alarming number of arrests of faith leaders at churches, especially mega churches for pedophilia or inappropriate behavior with minors? It's a lot.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

but what about?!??! happens at mosques too.

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No_Guava@reddit

That's rich ... Paxton telling people that they should follow the law.

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OneBadHarambe@reddit

But but whatabout

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Lonely_Refuse4988@reddit

Y’all-Qaeda thinks Al Qaeda is in the neighborhood! 😂🤣😂🤷‍♂️

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BlackWhiteCoke@reddit

Is the Al Qaeda in the room with us right now?

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AbductedByMJ@reddit

They'd absolutely love living under Sharia law anyway. No abortion? Women can't leave the house unless dressed modestly? Compulsory attendance at religious services for career advancement? There's a lot for Texas Republicans to like!

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broniskis45@reddit

A ton of Muslims voted for trump so my sympathy can only go so far. I feel bad but I don't, doesn't mean the implications of this behavior is okay.

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OblivionTU@reddit

they voted for trump or third party as a protest vote against the democrats and their support for the gaza massacres - the party that’s “supposed to be” for the interest of minorities. i respect it tbh

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Who cares if they hate me and will make my life hell.....they also hate the trans kid we'll never meet

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truth-4-sale@reddit

It's called The Stepford Wives.

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InfernalBiryani@reddit

That’s a grossly erroneous oversimplification of shariah law.

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AbductedByMJ@reddit

There's a lot more of it they'll love, trust me. I'm just giving the high points of the Wahhabist brochure before I hit them with the time share presentation.

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InfernalBiryani@reddit

Wahhabism is not a representation of Islam as a whole.

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AbductedByMJ@reddit

It's a joke. I do not seriously think anyone involved in EPIC is a Wahhabists. The caricature of the person they portray these people, which does not exist in reality, shares many of the same values they themselves hold, which is what makes it funny.

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InfernalBiryani@reddit

Ah gotcha, I’m not the best at detecting sarcasm especially over text lmao. Appreciate the nuance though

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Plcoomer@reddit

There are no religious advantages.

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Peligreaux@reddit

Man, the two worst words to start a sentence…”Governor Abbott”. It never ends well.

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azzers214@reddit

I read the is three times before my brain flipped from thinking a bunch of ballplayers were going to be showing up and investigating some random place called epic.

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msondo@reddit

Lol, yeah I was imagining Nolan Ryan investigating a water park in Grand Prairie for selling counterfeit hot dogs or something

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jerichowiz@reddit

Nolan Ryan with his crack team of snow monkeys.

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noncongruent@reddit

Or counterfeit TeTas hats, lol.

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msondo@reddit

Lol!

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MooNinja@reddit

EPIC is also a very successful and widely used EMR that I work with... this was a very confusing headline lol

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boobootheclown88@reddit

My partner worked for Epic and we lived in Wisconsin for 2 years, so I also had to do a double take haha

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JohnPaulDavyJones@reddit

Shout out to your partner for reclaiming their soul and escaping the Sith?

Out of curiosity, was Epic a good company to work for? The product is one of the more reviled EMRs by healthcare IT folks, so I’ve always been curious what it’s like on the inside.

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boobootheclown88@reddit

He wasn’t a fan tbh, even as a software engineer, and they argueably get treated better than a lot of other roles at the company.

I think the straw that broke the camel’s back was that they had some lazy or outright bad covid policies. EG: contining to fly in students for interviews well in to mid-May 2020, trying to force in-person work starting in August 2020, still sending their people out to hospitals during the pandemic, DESPITE hospitals telling them to not send them.

On the other hand, Madison, Wi is probably my dream city, and I highly recommend it as a place to live, if you don’t mind having to take a connecting flight for every trip for the rest of your life haha

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JohnPaulDavyJones@reddit

Oh hey, another victim of Epic!

Howdy from your local healthcare IT escapee. Our practices mass-migrated to NextGen and Athena right before I left, and I’m just glad that my successors have it better than me.

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banana_life@reddit

That’s Epic not EPIC

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mylinuxguy@reddit

We're not the only ones that see 'Texas Rangers' and wonder why a MLB team is going to investigate anything. It always takes a beat to figure out 'which' Texas Rangers something is referring to.

I even saw a FB Post about the Texas Rangers ( Lawmen ) from 1903 and FB's AI had helpful links to the Texas Rangers 1903 starting lineup and player stats. FB AI doesn't fully understand the Texas Rangers either.

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pacochalk@reddit

Fuck Islamophobia

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Background_Big_4609@reddit

Fuck all religion and the religious.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

What why

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Lamentrope@reddit

I mistrust mega churches and mega mosques equally.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

I think thats a whole new sentence there brother cuz I agree with you but the other guy was outta pocket.

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Lamentrope@reddit

Trogdor burninates indiscriminately :)

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PutTheDogsInTheTrunk@reddit

Antiquated ways of trying to explain the unknown that are used by the unscrupulous to wield power and subjugate the rest of society?

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

IDK if you know this but you aren't beholden to your religion in the US or most of the world, you can just pick which one you believe in if any and most people around you believe different things.

It isn't 2010 anymore, r/atheism isn't a default sub.

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PutTheDogsInTheTrunk@reddit

I’m agnostic. Most religions suck and make people feel bad about normal human behavior.

Even ones that seem kind of neutral, e.g. Buddhism, have been used to whip people into supporting mass murder.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

thank god we can blame that solely on spirituality and not human behavior

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PutTheDogsInTheTrunk@reddit

Also, you didn’t refute the substance of my comment, that dogma is used to curtail normal behavior. Among other bad outcomes, restrictions on sexuality leads to people finding out they’re sexually incompatible after they’re already married.

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A_Homestar_Reference@reddit

I'm not refuting it because its not wrong, but like you said its simply a tool evil people can use for bad purposes. So I think its bizarre to hate religion as a concept and religious people as a whole when you should really be blaming the people and organizations that exploit it.

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