Sweden sees lowest level of homicide in a decade

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zafar_bull@reddit

This is just wrong. How are Americans gonna justify their hate? Please Mods remove this ASAP, it goes against the narrative.

It's Sweden, the land overrun by illegal immigrant mafia.

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loggy_sci@reddit

Why being the U.S. into it. European attitudes towards immigration are every bit as stupid as ours.

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Yeah, we have a lot of bigots but most of them can't even find Sweden on a map. It's coming from some Americans but it's also coming from others, and it's not the average American bigot's largest concern

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NetworkLlama@reddit

Sweden has had a gang problem for much longer than that. Back in the 1990s, the Nordic Biker War ran for three years, and the warring biker gangs used automatic rifles, belt-fed machine guns, hand grenades, car bombs, and anti-tank missiles stolen from a Swedish armory.

Our gang wars in the US can get bad, but not anti-tank missile bad.

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Rikoschett@reddit

The nordic biker war is nothing compared to today's gang violence. Insane amount of bombings and shootings for like five years now. Other kind of homicides has dropped so much that total number is still down.

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IlIIlIIIIlllIIIIll@reddit

Yeah bringing up the biker gang wars is dishonest to the conversation, today is 10 times worse in shootings and 100 times worse in bombings.

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Jemerius_Jacoby@reddit

Not to distract from your point but there was a gang member in Chicago that had a RPG. He never used it but he got his hands on it somehow. RondoNumbaNine.

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u002F@reddit

It was his producer’s dads. He only took a picture with it

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Jemerius_Jacoby@reddit

Ah ok lol. I remembered it from like a decade ago.

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Past_Structure_2168@reddit

1 good year washes the past shit years away like nothing happened. amazing thinking

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olssoneerz@reddit

Did you even read the article?

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Past_Structure_2168@reddit

yeah i did

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TheDBryBear@reddit

Last year the rate was also about 1 murder per 100.000 people

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zafar_bull@reddit

People here are deluded.

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Past_Structure_2168@reddit

how?

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p_pio@reddit

Sweden, even at it worst (actually early 90s, lol) would be by far most secure "state" in the US. That is delusion/ilusion.

Europe is so secure that even slight increase in total crime means strong increase in relative level of crime, creating false sense of threat.

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Past_Structure_2168@reddit

sure man. few years ago my friends from vmo just said only dozen of shootings a year! and in generally sweden must be a blast to live in

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outoftimeman@reddit

There are travel warnings for the US from several European countries lmao

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spund_@reddit

The murder rate dropped since the implementation of stricter immigration laws.

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wewew47@reddit

What, so all the immigrants already there just chose to stop committing crime? The immigration laws stop new people coming, they generally don't mean the majority of immigrants already there are getting deported.

Almost like they weren't the reason in the first place.

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Trepeld@reddit

That might explain a stagnation in the increase rate but not a drastic decrease

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Zipz@reddit

Look up statistics for bombings in Sweden. It isn’t exactly perfect there

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Connect-Idea-1944@reddit

better than USA that's for sure

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Zipz@reddit

That ain’t exactly a high ceiling

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TheWhitekrayon@reddit

The murder rate dropped because they closed the border and started deporting violent criminals.

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HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit

Nonsense.

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DelaraPorter@reddit

How many people were deported

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TheWhitekrayon@reddit

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/10/07/swedens-immigration-stance-has-changed-radically-over-the-last-decade.html

A significant increase

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DelaraPorter@reddit

This doesn’t mention any number of deportations. It outlines that asylum applications and family immigration have become harder as well as additional restrictions on low skilled workers immigrating.

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TheWhitekrayon@reddit

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjdenz1drj8o.amp They aren't doing enough. But it's a start

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DelaraPorter@reddit

Again this does not mention the number of deportations only a proposal

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Old_Wallaby_7461@reddit

The people who care about that aren't receptive to news. Their beliefs aren't conditioned on anything

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gramcounter@reddit

"We" have given the police more power and authority that has come under heavy criticism. For example surveillance without suspicion of crime, searches (stop and frisk) without suspicion of crime, and more.

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Vegetable_Virus7603@reddit

This drop is after arresting a massive amount of those immigrants and closing the border.

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Iraqi_Weeb99@reddit

Doesn't change the fact that most homicide rates come from MENA immigrants to the point thatcSweden had to use the military to crackdown on Arab mobs there.

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shieeet@reddit

Sweden had to use the military to crackdown on Arab mobs there.

What? Wtf are you talking about? You've spread this bizarre lie before, but what are you even basing it on? Dreams?

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El-Pintor-@reddit

I think they mean this - https://apnews.com/article/sweden-shooting-explosion-deadliest-d013071ae44e9363226287a006e4fd00 Sweden says the military will help the police with some duties as gang violence escalates

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shieeet@reddit

Yeah, I suppose that would be the source of this claim, but those duties are incredibly minor, like providing technical assistance, such as analyzing explosive materials. I mean, Swedish constitutional law specifically prohibits the armed forces from exercising direct policing duties or using force in domestic matters, so to say 'Sweden had to use the military to crack down on Arab mobs' is such a long stretch that it borders on intentional misinformation.

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Azurmuth@reddit

The Defence forces can also act in certain counter-terrorism situations, but only if the police authority and SÄPO agree they dont have the necessary resources.

And it's not part of the constitution. Its just a regular law.

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shieeet@reddit

Really? I thought it became constitutional after that Adalen incident in the 1930s, but i accept i may very well be wrong here

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Azurmuth@reddit

Nope. The laws weren't actually changed until the late 60s early 70s, and officers in both the defence forces and home guard were given "Regulations for the use of weapons by military troops for the maintenance of public order etc" (FAVO) which allowed them to use tanks, aircraft, and live grenades.

The biggest change after Ådalen was the creation of the state police, to ensure that the police wouldn't have to call upon military aid.

The Swedish constitution isn't that large. It has 4 laws. Regeringsformen, which specifies how the government works, the rights of the people, elections etc. Tryckfrihetsförordningen, which is about freedom of the press and public access to official records. Yttrandefrihetsgrundlagen which is about freedom of speech, and Successionsordningen which regulates who is allowed to be the monarch. Everything else, including the defence forces is regulated by normal laws.

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shieeet@reddit

Ah! Very intresting! Thanks,

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Azurmuth@reddit

No. That didn’t happen. The military isn’t allowed to be placed in situations ”that may involve the use of force or coercion against individuals” unless it’s requested by the police to prevent or combat actual terrorism.

Source: Lag (2006:343) om Försvarsmaktens stöd till polisen vid terrorismbekämpning

I dag kan Försvarsmakten lämna stöd till Polismyndigheten till exempel enligt lagen om skydd mot olyckor. Försvarsmaktens resurser används bland annat som stöd till polisen vid eftersök av försvunna personer, tekniska undersökningar och omhändertagande av explosiva varor. Försvarsmakten kan även ge stöd med helikoptertransporter i samband med olika insatser. Hjälp till polisen från Försvarsmakten som kan innebära användning av våld eller tvång mot enskilda är begränsat till vissa situationer vid terrorismbekämpning.

Today, the Armed Forces can provide support to the Police Authority, for example, under the Accident Prevention Act. The Armed Forces’ resources are used, among other things, to support the police in the search for missing persons, technical examinations and the disposal of explosives. The Armed Forces can also provide support with helicopter transport in connection with various operations. Assistance to the police from the Armed Forces that may involve the use of force or coercion against individuals is limited to certain situations in the fight against terrorism.

Source: https://www.regeringen.se/pressmeddelanden/2023/10/uppdrag-till-polismyndigheten-och-forsvarsmakten-att-intensifiera-sitt-samarbete/

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TheWhitekrayon@reddit

It does show the situation isn't helpless. After closing the border and cracking down on illegal immigrant crime the rate has gone down. Keep up to good work send them all out

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FlyingVolvo@reddit

Americans telling Swedes what to do about a country of 10 600 000 people with less then 50 murders in a entire year is absolutely fucking hysterical

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highfructoseSD@reddit

Only 5 murders per million people per year? Those are rookie numbers. The US recorded 44 murders per million people in 2014, and that was a multi-decade low.

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HamunaHamunaHamuna@reddit

Nonsense. Criminals have not been deported. That is not the reason for the drop in crime, nor are first generation immigrants the ones who tend to be in gangs. And none of them are usually illegal immigrants. Stop it with that Trumpist bullshit.

It is also still way to early to tell if this drop is a trend.

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cheeruphumanity@reddit

Really hope Europeans don’t fall for the Trump playbook and understand that correlation doesn’t equal causation.

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Turioturen@reddit

None of those things happened.

No changes to border policy, there are very few "illegal immigrants".

What has happened is that the police has changed the way that they operate, refining their procedures and changing how things are done.

Then there is also the fact that many of criminals can't help but to upload video footage of their crimes.

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Turioturen@reddit

What the f*ck are you talking about?

None of those things happened.

No changes to border policy, there are very few "illegal immigrants".

This is what happens when you dont know jack sh*t but keep on talking.

What has happened is that the police has changed the way that they operate, refining their procedures and changing how things are done.

Then there is also the fact that many of criminals can't help but to upload video footage of their crimes.

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Mocca_Master@reddit

Well, seeing how the rivaling gangs started AoE grinding each other a few years back, it kinda makes sense that they'd be running out of people to kill by now

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cheeruphumanity@reddit

There are books on logic, it can be learned.

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outoftimeman@reddit

Yes, the same way gang violence stoped in the 90's in the US ...

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gobanlofa@reddit

I’d be really interested to see whether this is a flash in the pan or if there are wider factors leading to this drop. Remember watching a video on the Swedish gang scene that was really depressing, the cynic in me wonders if people are just running out of others to kill

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cryptobruih@reddit

Violence shouldn't be tolerated. Especially if it comes from immigrants. Countries already have their own murderers, no need additional ones with fucked up back stories.

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empleadoEstatalBot@reddit

Sweden sees lowest level of homicide in a decade

The number of people killed as a result of deadly violence in Sweden, which has struggled for years to rein in gang violence, in 2024 fell to its lowest level since 2014, a report showed on Monday.

In the country of 10.6 million people, 92 cases of deadly violence were recorded in 2024, 29 fewer than 2023, according to a new report by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå).

"When making comparisons between years, it should be kept in mind that 2023 stood out as a year when an unusually high number of women and minors were victims of fatal violence compared to previous years," Jan Lundbeck, a statistician at Brå, said in a statement.

The Nordic country has struggled in recent years to rein in shootings and bombings linked to score-settling between rival criminal gangs.

Perpetrators are often young teens who are hired as contract killers because they are under 15, the age of criminal responsibility in Sweden.

While gun violence also diminished, it remained the most common cause as guns were used in 45 killings, eight fewer than in 2023, the report said.

Swedish police also said in January that the number of shootings had declined in 2024 for the second year in a row, with 296 shootings ‒ a decrease of 20 percent compared with the year before.

Police attributed the decline to an increased ability to "prevent and deter" violent acts.

Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson's centre-right minority government, which is backed in parliament by the anti-immigration Sweden Democrats, came to power in 2022 with a vow to get tough on crime.

In early 2025, the country was rocked by its worst mass shooting when on February 4th, 35-year-old Rickard Andersson entered the Campus Risbergska adult education centre in the city of Örebro and shot dead 10 people before turning the gun on himself.

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