What is the UK going to ban next? Ninja stars and kitchen knives?

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hollaUK@reddit

If there was a rise in crime of people using fucking ninja stars then yes, yes we would ban that. That's how a civilised country works.

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The-Dinkus-Aminkus@reddit

You already did, but you can also throw a rock. Making stones illegal next? Put the criminals in jail instead.

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hollaUK@reddit

If you can't see the difference between a rock, and a crafted weapon, then I can't help you

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The-Dinkus-Aminkus@reddit

People crafted arrowheads and knives FROM rocks G. They are one and the same as far as the history of human weapons are concerned.

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gatornatortater@reddit

There was a tweet from UK police a couple years ago about taking someone's pointy stick.

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You should educate yourself and watch some videos of our police taking people down without lethal force, whilst your rednecks cops are regularly shooting people by mistake. Pretty eye-opening about what you put up with as a society.

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gatornatortater@reddit

You seem to be trying to change the subject. What exactly does that have to do with the policy against pointy sticks?

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hollaUK@reddit

Because the same incident in America would have resulted in them getting shot

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gatornatortater@reddit

For actively killing someone, perhaps... but not just for having a pointy stick.

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hollaUK@reddit

Yeah I dunno man, sounds like an anecdote to me. The police are humans so would never support every action every policeman does, but there’s a very good chance if I knew the rest of that anecdote, that I’d support those actions, personally.

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john35093509@reddit

We see the difference between a crafted weapon and a rock. What we don't get is why you're pretending that a crafted weapon is more dangerous.

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hollaUK@reddit

So a rock is as dangerous as a gun? You're saying there's zero scale of "danger" to an object? Why did people invent weapons then? Why does a samurai sword exist when we're surrounded by free rocks? What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

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john35093509@reddit

The comparison was to a ninja star not a gun, just to refresh your memory.

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hollaUK@reddit

Yeah I was illustrating a point….

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john35093509@reddit

Me too...

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hollaUK@reddit

So I guess you can’t address my actual point then?

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john35093509@reddit

I thought I had. The fact that a weapon was manufactured doesn't automatically make it more dangerous. If that wasn't your point then I missed it.

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hollaUK@reddit

You’re saying there’s zero scale of “danger” to an object? Why did people invent weapons then? Why does a samurai sword exist when we’re surrounded by free rocks? What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

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john35093509@reddit

No, I didn't say that or anything that could possibly be interpreted that way by someone on familiar terms with the English language. I said that all manufactured weapons are not more dangerous than all rocks. Period.

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hollaUK@reddit

So you’ve just posted two very contradictory statements

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john35093509@reddit

Nope.

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hollaUK@reddit

So answer my fucking question then, can you not read libtard?

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luckoftheblirish@reddit

A country so "civilised" that it treats its citizens as infants, incapable of the responsibility of wielding any weapon that they can meaningfully use to defend themselves. Civilization was not built by such an infantilized population. Rather, it will be destroyed by them. By you. You have unwittingly ceded a right (and responsibility), which civilization is founded upon, and you have done so at your own peril.

So gloat, if you will, about your "civilised" weapons laws and regulations, but don't be surprised when (not if) your country turns into a third-rate backwater.

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hollaUK@reddit

Yours has fallen under Authoritarian rule with innocent civilians being imprisoned at the border for making an error on their Visa form, so don't talk about rights, you are losing your rights by the day.

A responsible civilisation understands what matters for the population, the freedom to buy a Samurai sword is absolutely not one that any normal person would give a fuck about.

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Snoopydad57@reddit

Hahahahaha...oh, you're serious?!

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hollaUK@reddit

Actually analyse what you’re laughing at right, the idea of lots of people actually going out and causing crime with ninja stars is the ridiculous part of it, that’s what’s not going to happen, not the subsequent banning.

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Snoopydad57@reddit

All banning things does is create black markets. Witness: US alcohol prohibition, the "War on Drugs," "Saturday Night Specials" gun ban...I could go on, but the idea that banning something will solve any problem is ludicrous.

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hollaUK@reddit

22 gun related deaths in the UK in 2023, versus 46,728 in the USA.

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Ludicrous!

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gatornatortater@reddit

Who cares what weapon is used. Lets compare murders to murders. Nor does it help to count suicides.

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hollaUK@reddit

The homicide rate of US to U.K. is 9 per Million for the U.K. and 58 per million for the US.

So, it’s pretty much 6 times higher.

But the point is guns because that’s the major difference with the U.K. having strict ban on guns resulting in our gun deaths being 424 times higher.

Just let that sit.

Thea’s 42,400% higher.

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gatornatortater@reddit

I have to admit that the weapon used doesn't really matter to me. I'm only concerned about the killing part. Which is relevant if the point that is being made is that it is more dangerous because of guns.

Personally I don't think it matters, but you're actually making a decent argument with this piece of data that you were not with the other data. So keep doing what you were doing before. ;]

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Snoopydad57@reddit

Total violent crime per 1k residents:

109.96 UK 41.9 US

(As per Nationmaster.com)

The UK has almost 3x more crime per capita than the US. Bugger off.

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hollaUK@reddit

You illustrate my point, whats the fatality rate?

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Snoopydad57@reddit

You have THREE times (3x) the violent crime we do, and that includes our handgun crime. Don't presume to lecture us about a damn thing.

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hollaUK@reddit

How many deaths do we have 🤔

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gatornatortater@reddit

That is "gun related". Why don't you dig up the murder rates so you have something relevant to say.

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Snoopydad57@reddit

Thanks for making my point. You do know murder is against the law no matter the instrument used?

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chrisredmond69@reddit

Ninja stars (shuriken) and kitchen knives have been banned in public in the UK since 1953

Section 1 of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 and section 139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 respectively provide for offences of having an offensive weapon in a public place without lawful authority or reasonable excuse and having an article with blade or sharply pointed in a public place without lawful authority or good reason. Section 139A of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 provides that it an offence to have an article within either of the above offences on school premises.

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ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit

Why shouldn't I be allowed to carry a sword for self defense? What's the logic there?

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chrisredmond69@reddit

The logic is that British citizens considering self defence usually carry a stiff upper lip and a phone, and 99% of us have never been assaulted.

The guy carrying the sword is usually the guy doing the assaulting. (that's what the phone is for. get it?) Then the Police turn up taze him and throw him in a jail.

It's a good system, it works.

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ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit

So because a small number of people did a bad thing with a sword, no one should be allowed to carry a sword. Guess you guys should stop driving cars too.

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chrisredmond69@reddit

The people carrying swords are drug dealers. The people driving cars are mums doing the school run.

It's debatable which one is more dangerous, I'll give you that much.

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ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit

So arrest the drug dealers then. Seems like we discovered the root cause of your sword problem and it wasn't actually the sword after all.

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chrisredmond69@reddit

We do arrest drug dealers. Some of them are easy to spot, what with the swords they run about with.

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ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit

Then you shouldn't have a sword problem then.

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chrisredmond69@reddit

You're in full blown Americanisms there.

I'll phone the cops and let them deal with it. My swords will remain in the kitchen where I use them to crack eggs or something.

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ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit

If opting for more freedom is Americanism, then yeah that's me.

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UnhappyLibrary1120@reddit

So, I’m really happy to hear that no knife crime has occurred since 1988, congrats!

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chrisredmond69@reddit

Never said that...

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Indifferent-Owl@reddit

Wtf? Soon kitchen knives lol

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DravenTor@reddit

They should legalize guns so citizens can shoot the criminals with knives

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SokkaHaikuBot@reddit

^Sokka-Haiku ^by ^DravenTor:

They should legalize

Guns so citizens can shoot

The criminals with knives

^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.

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Swimming-Formal-5541@reddit

they are THISSS CLOSE to banning forks

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PolishAnticommunist@reddit

UK is a totalitarian idiocracy.

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-Curufinwe-@reddit

The fingermen will blackbag you for comments like that mate!!

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shedaoshai13@reddit

Patiently awaiting on the bans for sticks and bricks.... UK all living in inflatable houses will be hilarious.

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vithrell@reddit

Ban on clenching your fist next.

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-Curufinwe-@reddit

Stop! Don’t even say it! 🤦‍♂️ ‘you got a loicence for them fists bruv?!’

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Ottoblock@reddit

Lawn mower blades and angle grinders are on sewerside watch.

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Bubbly-Ad-1427@reddit

every time a leftoid wonders why liberalism is on a steep decline I want them to remember that this is exactly why people don’t like them

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coatingtonburlfactry@reddit

Next they'll be cutting the branches off all the trees so that people can't use them as clubs!

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mrhebrides@reddit

Soon only these.

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hblok@reddit

Plastic!? No, no, that has been banned long time ago.

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A_Australian@reddit

I mean, that's not bad...

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WebbyBabyRyan@reddit

They should ban the “people” who account for the majority of these knife crimes.

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cyrusthemarginal@reddit

You got a loisance for that opinion matey?

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A_Australian@reddit

Hey! Mate is an Aussie word!

Don't do us like that!

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WebbyBabyRyan@reddit

Exactly 😂 Brits will cease to exist in 20 years.

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P1R0H@reddit

Majority of crime in GB is committed by the British though. Including murders.

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Odd_Opportunity_6011@reddit

Per capita is a hell of a thing.

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P1R0H@reddit

I found this. It's not that recent but better than nothing. If you have more recent data, I'd like to see :)

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest/#by-ethnicity

^ it appears that at least between 2022 and 2023 both British and White British per Capita crime rates are higher than Arab (which is the implied minority in question)

From this data they should actually deport/persecute all blacks. Although I'd think that would be mostly actual GB citizens?

I couldn't find data for crime by nationality, which would be more telling.

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Odd_Opportunity_6011@reddit

Number of arrests, not the number of reported crimes? It's something I guess.

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678twosevenfour@reddit

Well I'd fucking hope the majority population in a country commit most the crimes

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coatingtonburlfactry@reddit

How DARE you? Diversity is our strength!!! /s

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A_Australian@reddit

KITCHEN GUN!

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teleologicalrizz@reddit

Believe it or not, the next thing they are banning is freedom of thought! You thought the telly loicense was bad... heh. Just wait!

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-DubiousCreature-@reddit

Shuriken are already illegal in the UK.

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Effective_Reach_9289@reddit (OP)

I just checked. You are correct. There are a few other traditional Japanese weapons that are banned as well. https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

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igortsen@reddit

This is racist against Japanese culture. Cancel the UK government.

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-DubiousCreature-@reddit

At this point the list of weapons that arent banned in the UK is probably much shorter than the list of weapons that are banned lmao

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igortsen@reddit

What's the point of banning the weapons of a ninja? You'll never see the ninja coming anyway.

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maxmaidment@reddit

I need to know. What the hell is the difference between a ninja sword and a zombie knife? They look the same to me but one was already banned.

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_playing_the_game_@reddit

What happens if you get caught with a ninja sword? 🤔🥷🗡

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EverythingsStupid321@reddit

I thought they already banned anything sharper than a plastic spoon...

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Purplegreenandred@reddit

Knives with tips on them will be made illegal, and knives will have to be secured by cable to your counter like they do at airports.

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One_Yam_2055@reddit

IIRC, China does something like that. Large knives must be permanently chained to the table where you use them or something like that.

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Purplegreenandred@reddit

Ive seen it at airports, and the uk essentially wants to make their whole country an airport when it comes to security

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lordnikkon@reddit

what happens when the murders are done by sticks and bricks? are they going to ban all building materials?

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DarthFluttershy_@reddit

Fresh fruit?

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not_today_thank@reddit

Yeah, they have working towards banning kitchen knives with pointed ends for awhile now.

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fryamtheeggguy@reddit

Things outlawed in Britain: butter knives and private prayer in one's own house.

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hollaUK@reddit

Um, slew actually understand separation of church and state ;)

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Stone_tigris@reddit

I cannot tell what is sarcasm or not on this thread

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hanvy82@reddit

I would say something but fuck giving any government ideas.

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gatornatortater@reddit

I literally did that a couple years ago

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ClearConscience@reddit

I try not to kink shame but their cuck obsession is reaching fetish levels.

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gatornatortater@reddit

The fetish types are looking at them and wondering why nobody has used their "safe words" yet.

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gatornatortater@reddit

A year or two ago here on reddit people were making posts of tweets from UK police bragging about the weapons they got off the street by posting a photo of the "weapons" they got. It was all innocuous things like screwdrivers and maybe a couple knives.

Being the snarky american that I am, I sardonically commented that "they'll be outlawing pointy sticks soon enough!"

The very next day they did a similar tweet that included a literal pointy stick. I was dumb founded. How can you exaggerate what these people are doing? The very depressing fact is that you cannot.

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KayleeSinn@reddit

I don't get why though. Like I kinda understand a gun ban at least. At least every criminal won't be able to make one but banning simple weapons just seems idiotic. Even a chimp can sharpen a stick into a spear and criminals don't care about bans or laws, so what do they hope to accomplish with this.

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gatornatortater@reddit

The result is that it is easier to find an excuse to arrest a person and it makes it harder for people to protect themselves. I feel it is safe to assume that that is the intent.

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calisoldier@reddit

Ninja stars are banned in Calitopia, but yeah, it’s Calitopia so it must be for our own good.

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FeetSniffer9008@reddit

Ehm... it's called a katana, not a ninja sword. I believe you did a microagression there right most honourable mr Starmer.

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Snoopydad57@reddit

Count Binface wins, hands down.

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FeetSniffer9008@reddit

To be fair. He has by far the most convinving manifesto. I genuinelly would support points 1, 3, 9, 17, 18, 20 and 22. And with how the past few elections have turned out, a novelty candidate is bound to win a seat somewhere in the next 10 years.

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The_Derpening@reddit

I pledge to build at least one affordable house

As in, personally? By hand?

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Ham0k_@reddit

Excuse me, what is a water boss lol

Refering to point 1

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Kind_Addendum7354@reddit

Use the Scottish claymore, the way your ancestors intended.

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JumboRug@reddit

Keep it down, we don’t want to give them any ideas

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denzien@reddit

Why? They need to go full send as quickly as possible or else they'll just be boiling the frog.

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Hi-Wire@reddit

Yes

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mosyofokbaligi@reddit

Im pretty sure stabbing someone with those swords is a common thing

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gregshafer11@reddit

Grinders and belt sanders next?

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Sharkaithegreat@reddit

I've written to my MP asking if they will consider banning crime next.

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AzyKool@reddit

I love how he unironically refers to "Ninja swords" like a literal child.

And then when you read the legislation he admits he doesn't actually know what a ninja sword is and it can't be defined by that terminology. And also the legislation refers to "modern practitioner of Ninjutsu". The guy is actually insane.

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stKKd@reddit

What a stupid tyranny

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ka13ng@reddit

Sad news, gang. I lost my kusarigamas in a boating accident.

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AtYiE45MAs78@reddit

Maybe immigrants that want to leave their country because it sucks yet want to make the country they immigrate to change to the county they just left.

Vet the people you let in better.

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kcg1313@reddit

Kitchen knife permits incoming..