Red Cross outraged over killing of medics by Israeli forces
Posted by adasiukevich@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 147 comments
Posted by adasiukevich@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 147 comments
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Killing aid workers is just another war crime that has been completely normalized by this barbaric terrorist state. Everytime we let them get away with this we are setting a dangerous precedent for future generations.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Sorry can't hear you over you normalizing the use of child suicide bombers by palestinian militant groups.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
I guess every time you allow a Palestinian child to live “you normalise the use of child suicide bombers by palestinian militant groups.”
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Ah, so Israel's response to child suicide bombers should be to... let them blow up isralies?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
You are attempting to change the subject from Israel mass murdering civilian aid workers. Just say that you support the IDF committing war crimes and be done with it. Stop beating about the bush.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
If they were civilians, why were they wearing the HAMAS uniform?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Which civilian aid workers that Israel murdered were wearing Hamas uniforms?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
LITERALLY ALL OF THEM
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
So none of them?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Show me a picture of the HAMAS battle uniform.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Yep, just random lies justifying the murder of civilians.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Show... me... the... hamas... battle... uniform... to... fully... invalidate... my... claim.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Palestinian ambulance drivers wear red trousers, white shirt, red jacket. Kind of unmistakeable. But Israel killed then anyway. Deliberately.
I think you are implying that every Palestinian is a valid target because you don’t know what the Hamas “battle uniform” is. We’ve seen the IDF start raids in plainclothes and kill people. Does that mean any and every Israeli is a target?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
So they were wearing... civilian attire.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
“You don’t reward that behaviour” means mass murder ambulance drivers? No, that’s not how it works. And besides, Israel routinely rewards the IDF going in without uniforms.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
So what you're saying is that if Israeli soldiers dress up as doctors and infiltrate hospitals to kill members of HAMAS, HAMAS is not allowed to be violent towards anyone in a doctor outfit because da rulez say no attacking doctors lulz.
IDF gonna do what it wants, HAMAS gonna do what it wants, I just love the whinging over Israel winning.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
How do you get everything so exactly wrong? It must take practice.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
No rebuttal, just indignation. I believe we call that "forfeiting"
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
You wanted to summarise what I said but you got it completely and utterly wrong. It would have been so simple too but your biases and hatred got in the way of your logic, resulting in an absolute disaster of a statement by you.
I’d suggest you try again if I thought you’d do better.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
No rebuttal, just indignation. I believe we call that "Forfeiting."
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
when's the last child suicide attack let alone any suicide attack? dumbass.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
There's a whole wiki page of them
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
I asked when the last one was - and it's 20+ years ago.
Hamas themselves made a public declaration they were going to stop because it was becoming unpopular within the Palestinian community.
So you bringing up that unrelated point when discussing the murder of literal medics, still holds no water.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Cool, so once Gaza is completely depopulated, Israel can say "We're going to stop completely depopulating Gaza" and get a pass for having done it.
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
huh? i think you're having conversations with yourself because nothing you reply to has anything to do with the topic - carry on because I don't care to continue with you.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
That you can't see it is your problem, not mine.
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
I asked when the last one was - and it's 20+ years ago.
Hamas themselves made a public declaration they were going to stop because it was becoming unpopular within the Palestinian community.
So you bringing up that unrelated point when discussing the murder of literal medics, still holds no water.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
You're right, I guess it is okay that Israel are slaughtering aid workers then. Thank you for changing my perspective.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
I love how you need to excessively focus on the crimes of Israel, give a pass to the literal terrorist organization, and try to act like you're being balanced. "Other side has done bad, so anything we ever do is justified, but none of our bad is our fault it's all theirs."
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
It's not that I "excessively focus" on them, it's that there are far more to be focused on!
Hamas are responsable for their actions, and the IDF are responsable for theirs. It's not difficult. So why do you feel the need to bring up Hamas on an article about Israel?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Because Israel good, HAMAS bad.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
My bad for thinking I could have a rational conversation with a Zionst.
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
It's an account which started in Jun 2024 (likely after previous account was banned) with thousands of comments all defending anything Israel does - what did you expect lol?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
You're forgiven.
Iamover18ustupidshit@reddit
But I thought all the aid workers were Hamas and terrorists - didn't you read the clearly honest reporting from Israel and IDF about this clear victory against terrorism? /s
Kiboune@reddit
Considering how EU and US are silent in case of this war crime, they also normalize this, but only for their allies
Eexoduis@reddit
Russia and China are busy with their own war crimes
ctant1221@reddit
Russia, sure, but when's the last time China's been in a war? The 70s?
CardOk755@reddit
1979 invasion of Viet Nam
ctant1221@reddit
So we're still litigating their war crimes from a half century ago?
CardOk755@reddit
Why did you ask a question if you didn't want an answer?
ctant1221@reddit
Because they said that China's still busy with their war crimes, which, if you are competent at english, means present.
By the way, do you want to talk about American slavery two centuries ago?
Thangoman@reddit
Yeah but China at least doesnt claim the moral high ground
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
They openly work for the PLO dude. The org that reversed their recognition of Israel as a country 7 years ago and has a long terrorist history.
Not sure what to tell you. If you work for the terrorists and treat the terrorists, especially during a war caused by said terrorists, you might be in danger.
kamSidd@reddit
Israel has a way longer terrorist history than them. The longest in the Middle East.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
lol good one
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Where is your proof that they openly worked for the PLO?
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Their website lol
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
There is a difference between working for the PLO, and working with the PLO, who are the official government of the West Bank.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Correct, they work for the PLO
The government that led the second intifada and refused to recognize Israel as a country lol
stonkmarxist@reddit
So fuck if they don't recognise Israel as a country. Israel doesn't recognise Palestine either and I doubt you're yapping about that
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
False, Israel has offered multiple two state solutions and the majority of Israelis are open to it.
It’s time for Palestine to turn to peace.
stonkmarxist@reddit
You clowns lie as easily as you breathe.
The sheer temerity of trying to claim that Israel recognises the state of Palestine is laughable.
It's time for Israel to return to its 1967 borders.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
lol take your terrorist porn elsewhere.
Pretending Israel is going back in time helps no one. Advocate for real peace or admit you don’t give a shit about Palestinians.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
You mean the government that did once recognize Israel and all they got in return was more land stolen?
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-is-two-state-solution-israel-palestinian-conflict-2024-01-25/
https://apnews.com/a-look-at-how-settlements-have-grown-in-the-west-bank-over-the-years-0000019079d8d0f6a3da79dcbd0a0000
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Yes, the government that recently reversed their position on Israel as a country
Like I said. Don’t work with terrorists in the middle of a war they started and then be surprised you get blown up 🤷🏾
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Yes, rightfully so. Have the Israeli government recognized the legitimacy of the Palestinian state?
When did they work with Hamas? We were talking about the PLO.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
The PLO has a long history of terrorism. Surprised you don’t know this either.
Do you know any of this stuff?
Wompish66@reddit
As do Israelis. They carried out terror attacks against the British in Palestine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_political_violence
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Yep! Sadly the Jews grew up (the whole region was war back then) and so did everyone but the little Iranian jihadists.
Egypt and Jordan? No war with Israel.
Palestine and Lebanon? War with Israel.
Gee I wonder why lol
Wompish66@reddit
Pretty remarkable to be commenting this on a story about Israelis murdering aid workers and then burying them in a mass grave to hide the evidence.
There is something really wrong with you, either intellectually or morally.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Israel is at war with Hamas because they were attacked. Working for terrorists puts you in harms way during wars.
Something is certainly wrong with you lol
I’m guessing moron
Wompish66@reddit
Famously nothing happened before October 7th. Israel hasn't been terrorising Palestinians in the West Bank in an attempt to annex illegally occupied land.
Repeating absurdities only makes you look even stupider, champ.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Repeating facts makes me look smart thanks I agree
Wompish66@reddit
Jesus Christ, you're a fucking idiot.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Imagine thinking being dumber than a bot is an insult lol!
Wompish66@reddit
What on earth is this even supposed to mean?
Live-Cookie178@reddit
So does the idf
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
lol good 1
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Even if that's true, you seem to be claiming that the PLO started the current conflict in Gaza.
Do you know any of this stuff?
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Nope, not claiming that. Hamas started the current conflict - one of the PLO’s little boyfriends
A jihadist is a jihadist 🤷🏾
They’re both poison for the people they are supposed to govern. Iran is their interest.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
A Zionist thinking in black and white, what a shocker.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Sorry you hate Jews and Palestinians.
I don’t.
We can agree to disageee.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Nobody hates Jews and Palestinians more than Zionists.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
lol good joke.
Free Palestine from the jihadists
Klytus_Ra_Djaaran@reddit
The point of your discussion is that Israel has once more murdered innocent people in a war crime, and your knee-jerk reaction is to look for ways to excuse the Israeli murders of innocent people. Love them or hate them, no one can disagree that Israel murders the most paramedics.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
lol murder. Innocent.
Cute.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
As a Zionist it's no wonder you view them as terrorists.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
I don’t view them as terrorists. They work for terrorists in the middle of a war. Keep up lol
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
This comment would say otherwise.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Listen, if you’re getting paid by terrorists and working for terrorists and providing cover for terrorists in the middle of a war, you might get blown up.
Nazi doctors died too. Whether they hated Jews or not.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
And where is your proof that they were doing any of that? This was in Gaza not the West Bank, the PLO aren't in charge.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Correct, they were working with Hamas which is even worse.
Did you even read the article? lol
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Where in the article, besides Israel's claims, does it say they were working for Hamas?
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
So we aren’t going with the article now? You think Israel just blows up random ambulances for fun?
God I’m arguing with a child. You didn’t even bother to research the org or read the article you posted.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Again, where in the article does it say they were working for Hamas?
Yes. They've literally been doing it for ages.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/hind-rajab-israel-gaza-killing-timeline/
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Oh god you didn’t even read your own article.
Well this wins the pathetic award of the day.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
I did read the article. Israel claimed they were terrorists, besides that there's no mention of them working for Hamas.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Read the article dude. I can’t do your homework for you lol
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
All mentions of Hamas in the article:
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Congrats you found Hamas in the article. Need help with any other basics?
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I need to find them in the ambulance. They don't seem to be there.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Oh you were there?
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
No, just reading the article.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Oh glad you got around to it! Lmk if you need anything. Else explained.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Bad bot
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Bad bot
MuteTitan77@reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/World_Now/s/xlwVkArfQe
Your arguing with a bot, I wouldn't waste my energy.
zZCycoZz@reddit
Yes.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Does it hurt to be that dumb? Or is it nice?
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
You were just claiming the PLO are just as bad?
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
No, Hamas is worse. But the ideology is cancer either way. Mostly for the people they govern.
lightyearbuzz@reddit
This is wrong on so many levels. You either must be a troll or just truely want all Palastinians dead.
1) All medics are protected under international law, it does not matter what side they're on or who they work for. It's the whole point of the Red Cross/Crescent, it was founded to make sure everyone in war had access to medics and that those medics were protected.
2) the PLO isn't in Gaza, it's in the West Bank. These medics volunteer for the Red Cresent, not "work for the PLO". You clearly have no idea what you're talking about
3) moving the goal posts from they are participating in terrorism or hiding weapons (the usual excuse for Israel's attacks on medical workers) to just that they work for the nominal governing body of the area that are at war is a horrifying and evil escalation in genocidal violence. If anyone who volunteers to drive an ambulance in a war zone can be called a terrorist because of who governs the region, you inherently are calling for the destruction of all medical services in that region. That clearly leads to genocide.
I know you won't, because you've picked a team and decided they can do no wrong and are willing to excuse any horrific acts by them as long as they say the say the word "terrorists", but you really should sit down and have a long hard look at your views, they're pretty horrifying and evil.
KaiBahamut@reddit
He's literally a hasbara agent. This is his 9-5 job.
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
TLDR?
You’re mad terrorists got blown up?
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Did you read a single thing he wrote?
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Seemed like a rant waiting for the take
lightyearbuzz@reddit
Alright, I'll dumb it down for you because you can't read a few paragraphs (or as i said up top, are just a shitty troll):
Red Cross/cressent medics are protected no matter what side they're on or who they "work for" (they're volunteers btw).
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
False, they lost their protected status when they chose to become cover for terrorists.
And they employ almost 4,000 paid staff.
Do you just make stuff up as you go? lol
They have a website you know
lightyearbuzz@reddit
Seems like a rant, waiting for the take
MuteTitan77@reddit
This is a bot, don't waste your energy.
https://www.reddit.com/r/World_Now/s/xlwVkArfQe
TallTacoTuesdayz@reddit
Terrorist died simps cried
EH1987@reddit
Sadla there is no accountability for the empire or its vassals.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
If IFRC had a shred of integrity it would have suspended Israel’s (Magen David Adom) membership when Israel attacked Palestinian ambulances the first time, decades ago. It didn’t. Now it’s routine for Israel to mass murder emergency workers and medics. Will IFRC act? Probably not. Israel considers itself above such petty considerations as morality and international law.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
So what you're saying is that if HAMAS marks all its vehicles as ambulances, Israel isn't allowed to attack them?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
If they’re genuinely ambulances, yes. Same as the IDF. If they’re not ambulances or if they are ambulances that have been stolen and being used as troop transport for an assassination (as the IDF has been caught doing) then no.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
You are literally advocating to reward war crimes. Why should HAMAS war crimes be rewarded but not Israel's?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
How is having an ambulance a war crime? Using an ambulance to cover troops moving is a war crime. Israel has been exposed doing that (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VPFhsK-Uqz8) but you appear to think it’s ok. Do you have Hamas on video doing that?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
You are literally saying that if HAMAS marks all its vehicles as ambulances, none are allowed to be attacked. May as well put a 'journalist' cap on every soldier and thus every soldier Israel kills is a "death of a journalist."
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if something is genuinely being used as an ambulance it’s a war crime to target it. It doesn’t matter who “owns” it. If an IDF ambulance is targeted it would also be a war crime.
In this case there was no Hamas ownership or any other BS. Israel deliberately murdered civilian aid workers.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
And despite the long well-documented history of hamas specifically using ambulances for military purposes, you want anything marked as an ambulance to be immune from Israel's attacks.
ya know, Israel marked the music festival as a music festival, why was HAMAS allowed to attack that?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Are you making stuff up or are you just regurgitating IDF lies? I’m genuinely curious.
It’s kind of funny because I posted proof the the IDF makes bogus calls for ambulances, assaults the crew, steals the ambulance and uses it to move troops around, and you are just spouting angry rants about how Israel has the right to mass murder every Palestinian ambulance driver.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Then why were the people in that ambulance all wearing the HAMAS battle uniform?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
What battle uniform? Are you just lying here?
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Show me a picture of the HAMAS battle uniform.
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
Yep, just random lies justifying the murder of civilians.
tkyjonathan@reddit
The moral of the lesson is: DON'T LET HAMAS OPERATE IN YOUR AMBULANCES.
What is the point of having rules of war when terrorists never abide by them?
Barbaric, really.
And the Red Cross in Gaza was doing such a great job taking care of the Israeli hostages, too. Whats that? You're saying they haven't seen one Israeli hostage in over 500 days? Ok, ignore that last comment.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
Apparently the "point" is that anything Israel does breaks the rules, even if the other side is using literal child suicide bombers. Everything is Israel's fault, bad bad jews bad jews, yada yada.
It has just become petulance and angry emo fantasies at this point screechec into the void of the internet.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
The point is that Israel do break the rules and are rightfully called out for it. Pointing to other war crimes that have happened in the past doesn't justify this one.
Dry-Season-522@reddit
And there it is, excusing your current crimes because the other side did a crime once. "Hey yeah I tried to murder him, but he once cut in line in traffic so it's like, imshalah!"
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
That's literally what you're doing. I am capable of holding Hamas accountable for their crimes, are you capable of doing the same for Israel?
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
I agree.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/14/suddenly-there-was-a-car-of-men-the-day-israeli-soldiers-attacked-a-refugee-camp
tkyjonathan@reddit
Thank you for agreeing https://cbs4local.com/news/nation-world/hamas-admits-using-ambulances-to-transport-weapons-terrorist-in-leaked-phone-call-palestine-israel-war-strike-fighting-gaza-strip-middle-east-humanitarian-crisis-israel-defense-forces
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
I've read that before...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVQALHmgo8U&t=101s
tkyjonathan@reddit
Thanks for proving that the IDF are honest and their reports and translations are accurate. The al-Ahli "hospital bombing" was confirmed to be just as the IDF described.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Confirmed by the IDF to be just as the IDF described. Well you got me there.
tkyjonathan@reddit
Confirmed by several European intelligence agencies. Oh.. and the fact that the damage the rocket did was just A TWO INCH HOLE IN THE PARKING LOT HAHAHAHAHA
You guys are such easily provable clowns.
adasiukevich@reddit (OP)
Confirmed by countries bought by Israel. Definitive proof.
dooooonut@reddit
Of course the BBC doesn't report that they were handcuffed and executed and buried in a mass grave
While wearing their uniforms. One was decapitated.
They couldn't ignore the story, but they could leave out the ugly details
Thangoman@reddit
If someone wrote that in a novel people would say that its hard to believe
Nathan_Calebman@reddit
It's disgusting how they are portraying it from the IDF propaganda that "we just opened fire on a threatening truck driving right towards us", when we have clear evidence this isn't what happened.
Pklnt@reddit
Yeah but did you guys know that the Red Cross didn't visit the Hostages therefore their death is kinda warranted?
That's what the ghouls on one of the biggest subreddit are implying right now.
advillious@reddit
have they visited the palestinian hostages that have been getting tortured to death in “israel”?
SpontaneousFlame@reddit
In theory they can. In practice they can’t and if they raise a fuss they face repercussions.
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