PISD schools | TheaterFire

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lucupy@reddit

Bethany elementary, Schimelfenig MS and Jasper/Plano for the last 4 years. Great schools. The Bethany neighborhood or hood has no HOA. A big plus for us!

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awesomemom1217@reddit

Stay away from Vines & Plano Senior High.

Vines: Kids more likely to get in a fight. Plus the random drugs and sex in the bathroom.

Plano Senior High: If your child is in special education, avoid this school due to one of the teachers on video abusing a student severely two months ago. To everyone’s knowledge, she’s still there. 😐 However, this is only due to the district slow walking the evidence to the family.

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LadyTsukiyo@reddit

I graduated PSHS and was in modified classes which falls under sped. Can you dm me who the teacher was?

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EnvironmentalLuck515@reddit

My kids graduated from PSHS and so did I back in my day. All of us are good earners and successful by any definition...and my kids were not all stars. One was in orchestra, one was in band and theatre. Both had a great time, parental involvement was very high and acceptance into good universities is the norm.

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HiTop41@reddit

I grew here in Plano, left for many years and came back to raise my kids here.

Vines high school had and still has the highest number of drug issues out of all the schools. My source, two Plano PD defectives I am friends with. But that doesn’t make it a bad school, you just need to make sure your kids don’t get wrapped up with the wrong kids.

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LadyTsukiyo@reddit

Can confirm about the Pharmacy. Though I'm still surprised that reputation has lasted this long. It was like that from 04-05 when I went there.

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anonnoodle88@reddit

It's interesting, I went to Vines years ago, and afterwards heard this trope about Vines. Perhaps just cause I was in the academic crowd, but personally I never witnessed drug use or had a clue it was supposedly a thing. I think it's more who you are hanging out with than anything.

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poisonedg1rl@reddit

I went to Vines 2016-2018 and yeah I knew plenty of people doing drugs. One of my best friends overdosed on fentanyl. But it really just depends who you are hanging out with.

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ExoticChemistry3@reddit

As someone who went to PESH during the heroin epidemic, I thought it was crazy how the media outlets made it seem like we all were on drugs. I was with the academic crowd as well and never saw a thing. I heard rumors of course but those were the kids that you would look at and say, yup, they are on something.

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HiTop41@reddit

100% my point. Thank you for validating that the “worst” thing about Plano schools is only if your kid gets caught up in the worst things.

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Wonderful_Possible51@reddit

My kids goto Wyatt (one is actually starting at Wyatt in fall), and I can say it is great, although a bit competitive but that's how we like it.

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Hopeful_Shift6034@reddit

Of the schools I’d only recommend Plano east. All the other schools have shoddy teachers who don’t well teach

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ProfSaintBernard@reddit

The Skaggs-Rice-Jasper-PWSH route has the best academic performance, but it's very competitive and could be stressful. Not every kid like that.

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Elbynerual@reddit

PESH has the IB program

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Texas_Mike_CowboyFan@reddit

What is that, exactly? International Baccalaurette, I know, but is it like a mini college degree?

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anonnoodle88@reddit

No, it's basically a certification for those who might want to study abroad. If you go to the IB subreddit, you'll see a lot of kids who recommend against it, since just taking AP courses is superior and almost every way

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Texas_Mike_CowboyFan@reddit

Good to know

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Elbynerual@reddit

It's more than that. You get college credits for high school classes like AP, but IB is much more highly regarded on college applications. It's not as easy to get into, etc.

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unexpected@reddit

It’s not more highly regarded at all. I was an IB kid that was sold a load of shit.

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MilkmanResidue@reddit

Ah yes. Skaggs. The neighborhood school with zero apartments feeding in. Great scores. I wonder why?

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leaderjoe89@reddit

Go to smaller school anywhere in Texas. 3A or smaller and your kids will be so much happier.

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WheelChairDrizzy69@reddit

Your best bet is anywhere west of Custer and east of Shiloh/Spring Creek. Housing stock is newer, neighborhoods are nicer, fewer apartments, which leads to better schools generally. With PISD the high school level really doesn’t matter because the schools are so big that if you have a smart kid, they will do well. And I mean the 9-10 not even getting into the gargantuan senior highs. So focus on elementary and middle school.

Here’s another good tip. No matter where the elementary school is, including I said above, if they have an active PTA it’s worth checking out. Involved parents=good school no matter the location or website ranking.

But ultimately stats say a kid’s academic success is majority predicated on the parents so if you want your kids to succeed, it’s really going to be on you more than the school. Best of luck!

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talltxn66@reddit

In other words, brown people don’t live there so they aren’t messing up the schools - is that what you’re trying to say in a “nice” way?

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WheelChairDrizzy69@reddit

Uh, if you think that the areas I mentioned don’t have people from a whole lot of different ethnic backgrounds, you don’t go around Plano enough lol.

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talltxn66@reddit

I live in Plano, so I am fully aware of the demographic for the area you are telling people to avoid - that’s why I’m calling you out.

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Texas_Mike_CowboyFan@reddit

Central Plano has plenty of brown people, but they're usually Indian, not Latino.

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WheelChairDrizzy69@reddit

You read into it what you want I guess lol. Plano is plenty diverse no matter where you are.

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talltxn66@reddit

That is true, but the lower socioeconomic groups tend to live in the area you said to avoid. You may not have meant to imply what you did, but those of who live in Plano caught your inference.

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

Dude, you’re literally profiling, not them. You are assuming that because they are talking about more affluent neighborhoods, that there wont be people of color living there. Go look in the mirror buddy.

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talltxn66@reddit

No profiling here. Guess you aren’t aware of something called census data. Go look at a map of Plano with demographic data overlaid. You’ll see that everything I said is backed by data, not profiling.

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

Complete profiling. Found the biggest libtard in plano 🤣🤣🤣

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talltxn66@reddit

You’re projecting - that’s usually what happens when conservatives are presented with facts they don’t agree with. Kinda like the January 6th terrorists.

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

Buddy..multiple people called you out on here for exactly what i did. Are you literally saying im projecting and while simultaneously ignoring the callouts??

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talltxn66@reddit

Not ignoring them - they’re just angry conservatives like you who don’t like it when their racism and privilege is pointed out. So

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

Haha privilege. Thats a good one. I have worked for everything that I have. Typical liberal, so blinded by their hate for conservatives, they with their foot in their mouth.

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talltxn66@reddit

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 Man you’re original. You should do standup

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

I wasn’t making a joke weirdo lol

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talltxn66@reddit

I know. But you’re fucking hilarious.

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Poopin_Hard@reddit

Libtard deflecting. Tale as old as time. Feed me your liberal tears. Lets take this a step further and meet up? Im at the point of shutting you the fuck up.

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talltxn66@reddit

Again, old tired joke - but hilarious that you think it’s funny. That’s why you try stand-up. You can get up there and tell old tired jokes and pretend that people are laughing with you, not at you.

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East_Engineer_2479@reddit

Dude.. they listed the reasons why they think it would be a better choice. The hate mongering is unnecessary.

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talltxn66@reddit

And everything reason they listed is a dog whistle.

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East_Engineer_2479@reddit

Please elaborate.

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talltxn66@reddit

You’re asking someone you refer to as a hate monger (only because I was pointing out the hate mind you) to explain what the dog whistles mean? You probably already know what the dog whistles are and are just being coy - but OK

New, nicer neighborhoods” = wealthier, usually white. Desirable

“Fewer apartments” = apartments are lower class, more minorities. Not desirable.

Go look at census data, it will bear out everything I’ve

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East_Engineer_2479@reddit

I didn't refer to you as a hate mongerer... I wanted to know why it seems like that's what you are doing. You don't have an explanation for me, just an assumption that im being coy. The only person that brought up "brown people" as you referred to them, is you. I don't think this person is indirectly/directly attacking poc. The correlation to areas with less apartments/less crime isn't pointing out that there are more/less poc there.. you are.

I went to Thomas Carpenter Clark and PESH for reference.

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Fearless-Ferret-8876@reddit

No one thought or said that except you, you fucking racist

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talltxn66@reddit

Why do you consider pointing out someone else’s racism as racist?

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ALaccountant@reddit

West of Custer is bad advice. Newer homes often mean shittier construction. I live just east of Custer and my home is nicer than most in Plano. Not to mention, far east Plano, has some ridiculously large homes and estates. Yes, more money is concentrated in West Plano, but you shouldn’t limit your search there. Bad advice

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WheelChairDrizzy69@reddit

I didn’t - far east Plano is also in my criteria lol. Most would not consider Coit to Custer as west Plano either.

Yes, there are great subdivisions between Custer and Shiloh. However they asked for general advice so I’m only going to get so specific. At a certain point you need a realtor for that.

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TechnicalSuspect9046@reddit

haun elementary or gulledge elementary and you are set, avoid others if you can afford it

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JayWo60@reddit

All schools in Plano are pretty good. My daughter went to several schools which were supposedly not good but she still did well and got accepted to a good university.

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sapphirekangaroo@reddit

I agree. We currently have a kid in an elementary school in the central group (Wells) and we love our school. Our friends with kids in neighboring schools (Gullledge, Carlisle, Saigling, Hughston) all also love their schools. I feel grateful to live in a city with so many great school choices.

We based our home location on the high school - I liked the ‘normal’ vibe of Plano Central compared to the more competitive (academically and financially) vibe of Plano West. And my job is in Carrolton, so we didn’t want to be miles further away at Plano East.

My kid (3rd grade) has so much diversity in his class. We are boring white people but his best friends are an American white boy, a first generation Chinese boy, a Black Muslim boy (and my kid has learned about Ramadan this spring and told me about it!), a first generation Indian girl, and a Black American girl. It’s super cool.

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unsarcasticlyserious@reddit

Can second Hughston

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Texas_Mike_CowboyFan@reddit

My sixth grader went to Hughston and we loved it. Now at Haggard and we like it.

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This-Speech4659@reddit

DEI is your selling point on the school? What about the rigor of academics and the commitment of families and communities to a solid education?

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PlanoTX_Resident@reddit

Hate to say this, but how much you can afford for your home in Plano will dictate to a certain extent how good the school is. If you can afford a 600K+ home in West Plano, i.e. west of the tollway, the school is likely to be better than a home, let's say in South Central Plano that costs 400K.

Many young families are moving north to Prosper, Celina, etc. because easy they can get a new home for the price of a 50-year-old home in plano.

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ranjithd@reddit

Skaggs/Rice MS/Jasper HS/Plano West is one of the best feeders

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Good_Luck_515@reddit

Not sure

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Elbynerual@reddit

I went to Clark and PESH, struggled with curriculum due to severe ADHD and memory problems, and eventually dropped out.

But along the way, I learned incredible things that throughout my adult life, I've realized are well above the average in America. I excel in math compared to the average. I have an above average vocabulary despite not being big into reading.

I went to school with a diverse group of people from all races and religions. I never tried cigarettes, drugs, or alcohol (although that's FAR from average, lol. Most kids probably do).

I always knew as an adult that I was a bit smarter than average based on people I met, and I always chalked that up to a great education in Plano schools.

Just recently, though, out of curiosity about myself, I took the entrance test for Mensa, and I passed. I don't know how much that reflects on Plano schools, but I will always look back on my education with thanks when I think about all the other places it might have been.

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picircle@reddit

PISD is good, but it should be 'Prosper ' ISD 😄

Plano is old! Come out of the boomers area. It's the 'Sigma' time!

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scooteristi@reddit

School ratings pretty much track socioeconomic status. The “best” schools are where the most expensive houses are. The poorest performing schools are where the oldest, cheapest housing is. Plano is a good district. Even its poorest performing schools are better than the median district in this state.

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MilkmanResidue@reddit

I’ll disagree. I think it depends more on the amount of students coming from apartments. Schools that have zero apartments feeding in have much better scores and less issues than schools with many apartments feeding in.

Not throwing shade on any folks who live in apartments. But those students typically move more often and have more deficiencies and gaps in learning. Plenty of schools that are in West Plano surrounded by expensive homes with some troubled students from apartments.

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DowntownComposer2517@reddit

This is the same thing as tracking socioeconomic status

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pinkitybaby@reddit

BINGO

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one_is_enough@reddit

Found the nimby

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MilkmanResidue@reddit

Not NIMBY in any way. Not complaining. Just pointing out my observations. Go take a look at PISD elementary school scores with no apartments feeding in.

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talltxn66@reddit

Thanks for saying this.

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Hot-Tension-2009@reddit

Pisd is a very college prep focused school system. Kinda “segregated” by income but the school money is pretty spread out almost evenly because the higher achieving students will get a chance to be bussed to other campuses for there classes. At least back in the day idk about now.

If you want your child to be trade certified after graduation there’s probably better districts for that. But if college is 100% in their future they’re all pretty good. Find a house you like and can afford. Closer to the tollway gets a bit more money but a bit more snobby and more expensive. Closer to the east gets more country and wanna be Dallas with just a bit less funding but not a life changing amount.

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pinkitybaby@reddit

Dont go near apartment complexes. Those kids are not nice.

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Hot-Tension-2009@reddit

lmao I used to at least one dude selling weed or more in almost every apartment complex about a decade and a half ago. I don’t think it’s still the same because rents getting to high for those types of side hustles but I could be wrong

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TXVette121@reddit

Stay away from Clark HS

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karma_time_machine@reddit

Why?

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Hot-Tension-2009@reddit

All them hooligan children. On par with Vines sometimes. 😤

At least that’s what I’m assuming they mean. Clark isn’t that bad. It’s the most normal mini example of suburban America in my very biased opinion.

It has a “ghetto” (using the 2008ish slang definition) vibe, but then you gotta remember it’s still in Plano and Plano is always up there in the top 10 city whatever lists in America.

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Cloudy_Automation@reddit

Look at the enrollment numbers for the middle school. If it's too small, it's hard to have different levels of classes like math and English. Elementary and high schools don't have that problem. Plano has had declining enrollment for some time, and some schools will not reopen next school year. Keep that in mind that the school mapping for a house may change. They did pick old schools to close.

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